competitive_discussion

[cyan smelt]

I feel better about myself having attended a local

[next stump]

I think in order to earn CP for Top 129th-256th place, there needs to be 513 Masters in attendance

[cyan smelt]

Yeah I didn't get any then

That's fine, it's incentive to do better at the next one and practice with a good team

There are people even more cracked than taunt playing

Like Joji kaeda and Nicolas kan

[pure niche]

Thanks Kalos, fun games!

[gentle crag]

tauntastic has given 1 Gen Rep to kal0sunleashed

[cyan smelt]

Sick team

[pure niche]

Just got dinner and looked in here, was a fun night of games

How did your game 3 go?

[cyan smelt]

I won both sets

Basically gholdengo and incin carried

[pure niche]

Excellent!

[cyan smelt]

Wasn't expecting to see breloom in reg h

Balance cores are the way to go for me, I love constantly threatening fake out while setting up

Should probably try bolt balance for reg f

[pure niche]

Yeah I'm thinking lefties Bolt for Reg F, that will be my comfort start for sure

[cyan smelt]

I really want to make hands work because I'm loving how tanky it is

I was playing against male indeedee earlier and it tanked an E force

[waxen dock]

cuz of av

[fallen dove]

i love this stupid ahh mon https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2479872276

[latent ember]

heyo, can someone give me some pointers on how to deal with hard-trickroom or trickroom teams in general while running this team? i find myself really struggling with the matchup which is new to me, in past regulations it felt fine

[solid frigate]

@foggy lodge

[latent ember]

LOL thats the scream tail guy, isn't it?

[solid frigate]

He played Scream Tail

[latent ember]

yeah i talked to him a little yesterday, didn't ask for any advice tho :P

[solid frigate]

Dragon Pulse on AV Set could lose a lot of damage potential,Draco is lot more suitable for burst Damage

Preferably Scream Tail would like a Fairy Stab For at least some damage

[latent ember]

admittedly i didn't make the team myself, i just used a spreadsheet of Reg F results and found one that got top 8 at a tourney in 2024, maybe i'll try that instead tho and see how it goes

[solid frigate]

And detect On Urshifu would help a lot against Some dudes who still runs Imprison for no reason at all

[latent ember]

i think i've gotten pretty decent at playing VGC but i'm still no good at team building :P

[solid frigate]

Still got a lot to learn

[latent ember]

for sure

[next stump]

into hard TR with that team I’d probably bring taunt Incin, Urshifu with sash, AV bolt, and maybe rilla

[solid frigate]

Rilla for Terrain Control cuz most of them either have Psyspam or Ursaluna spamming Earthquake

Well Idk if we gonna see Ursaluna this much in Reg F

Maybe will pop up

[latent ember]

yeah i've noticed that the strongest my team has felt to me is the grassy-glide spam with oger + rilla against teams without priority, but indeedee totally messes it up :P

[solid frigate]

You have to learn how to reposition yourself to have a better vantage point

Trust me I played Miraidon too much to understand this

[latent ember]

yeah i think scream tail + balance rilla/incin makes repositioning a lot easier for me, i'm just struggling with overcommiting to it and such

[latent ember]

should i get more comfortable with swapping out raging bolt since im not running any sort of calm mind set? i feel like i let him sit on the field for quite a while

[solid frigate]

Ehhhhhh

It depends on how you are comfortable with those sets in general

[latent ember]

oh sorry, when i said swapping out i literally meant like

switching out during battle, not switching my team comp

[solid frigate]

I’d say it’s alright to switch out depending on the boardstate

[latent ember]

and maybe i will swap off rock tomb on scream tail, it feels like it was designed to counter tornadus but they often have covert cloak so i never really go for it :P
as for it countering dragonite, they always seem to have extreme speed so the speed drops aren't always all that useful

[solid frigate]

Trust me if you have bolt you already win against Torn 80% of the time

[latent ember]

i feel like i should lead with bolt more often then

since it feels like if i see torn in preview they damn near always lead with it

also, should i be practicing in Bo3?

[solid frigate]

Preferably that yeah

[latent ember]

also also, which fairy type move? dazzling or moon?

i would imagine moon

intuatively

oops guess its dazzling lol

[solid frigate]

I think Max played Play Rough when we are having a set

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 985: Scream Tail

Types

Fairy/Psychic

Abilities

Protosynthesis

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

115/65/99/65/115/111

Total

570

Sableye version 4.29.0

[latent ember]

thats interesting but a little confusing, why would he risk the lower accuracy move over dazzling?

not a fan of low accuracy moves at all, ideally im running none

[solid frigate]

Higher Base damage since it’s a Single Target move,plus could potentially have a drop on Attack

[latent ember]

especially since scream tail creates tough but guaranteed win situations

[latent ember]

hmmm ok ill give it a go

its also a bit hard for me to decide when i want to bring scream tail

i guess i should just do it against teams filled with moves like fakeout and amongus off hard TR? idk

i queue up ONCE for practice after updating my team and run into whatever the hell this is 😭

every bone in my body is screaming grassy glide

presses grassy glide 5 times
wins
it's just too easy

ok i need to get my elo up, i wanna pracitice against real teams 😭

[fallen dove]

hell yeah

[fallen dove]

real honestly ive built my team but theres so many times where i look at it and go like yo did i burn down the kitchen??

[fallen dove]

until u see the mythical tera ground tera blast tornadus

[latent ember]

when it's 3am in the morning and you staring at the garganacl who some how ended up in the team builder

[fallen dove]

i lost to a shelter shellarmour hisuian goodra today man it happens to the best of us

sometimes it is indeed a cook

i have bulky fluttermane with only like 160evs in speed

it can be a cook

[latent ember]

😭 😭 that's how it goes sometimes fr

losing to cheese is just like

(not saying the goodra was cheese)

an important experience yk

no cope

[fallen dove]

first goodra ive seen all reg f

im bottom feeding in 1200s rn ugh

i hit 1500-1600 no time flat in reg H when i got used to tailroom ursa but this has been a rlly hard regulation for me

hopefully i can get better and good enough to at least win one at euic

[latent ember]

gl brother

[fallen dove]

i dont wanna take the train down to go without a win

[latent ember]

or sister

or sibling idfk

[fallen dove]

imma be taking my homeboys copy of violet coz he cant make it and i dont own the game LMAO

[latent ember]

yeah i wanna go to a tourney eventually but its honestly a long ways away

[fallen dove]

im a brother

[latent ember]

ay, if you have a switch 2 and the funds, i recommend trying out scarlet or violet one of these days

i played it earlier this year for the first time

on the switch 1 mind you, but goddamn i love this game

easily in my top 2 pkmn games

[fallen dove]

i have a switch 2 but ive spent it all on ZA

gotta work my j*b to get the money back

[latent ember]

fair enough, time mangement is rough in a world with 1000 sick games coming out every year

[fallen dove]

frrr and ive still got minecraft

[latent ember]

exactly yeah, the eternally fun games make it even rougher

[fallen dove]

thank you raging bolt https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2479872276

[solid frigate]

You’re throwing if you are running that lol

[fallen dove]

tbf im almost done with ZA im almost done with my alpha dex and about to get shiny charm

im never hunting for a shiny dex i dont have that kind of patience

[latent ember]

is this the same game you posted earlier or do you just always round-start with tera-flying lando against shifu😭

ok its the same one i still have both tabs open loool

[fallen dove]

LMAOOO nah nah that is one of my fav leads tho

but tbh anything on my team can lead off

apart from maybe bolt

[stone trellis]

One's a balance user, the other loves sun HO. Spot who's who.

[fallen dove]

neither. theyre both adorable and cute so they must be skeledirge stall players

[stone trellis]

The sister of the whiter one (not shown here) is a vicious killer and the cutest thing I've ever seen, that one definitely plays balance.

But yeah, Potato is way too jolly to be either.

[real prairie]

Interesting...

[stone trellis]

James Evans looks like a Wolfey clone.

I can't unsee it.

[lofty tartan]

Be careful and make sure you progress the game enough to acquire your Tera Orb or you won't be able to Tera in your matches at the event

[lofty tartan]

Except they look nothing alike

[lofty tartan]

Darsh has sort of ridiculous hot takes. I'm sure this is Darsh Patel? The dude that has horrendous sportsmanship, or a lack thereof?

Additionally... Just from the thumbnail it looks like click bait. "Beat anyone once you know their color"

Look man you can beat anyone without knowing anything about them. The top players are just players that also happen to lose. But this implies if you figure out a person's "color" you can just win 100% of the time against them and from start to finish this sounds and smells like bull.

[real prairie]

Yeah I was being sarcastic lol

[latent ember]

i wish this server had a vgc vc where i could screenshare and get some feedback or sum

[fallen dove]

i mean any vc could work

[stone trellis]

Should have specified that he looks like a failed Wolfey clone.

Also, I lost to fucking Iron Ball Fling Iron Hands today.

My Ice Rider was perfectly set to win the game on the spot, but I just had to convince myself that not Teraing Icy right then and there wouldn't somehow end in me losing.

The opponent's Ice Rider would move after mine due to Trick Room and it would die to +1 Glacial Lance.

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2480037607-j0txmbegdpfygt1370xb64wmoofallqpw

[lofty tartan]

Gross.

[real prairie]

||looks like we are getting a 2nd mega garchomp||

Za dlc spoiler ^

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2480063486

HE'S BAAAAAAAAACKKKKKKKKKKK

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2480065136

[bold geode]

Yeah I'm not getting this VGC player segregation bullshit I'm seeing off that thumbnail

And I've watched parts of his vids before
Very click bait type shi

He literally does intros like a Minecraft YouTuber

[next stump]

Darsh is trying his best to fill the hypebeast niche

[bold geode]

I mean I think that niche isn't bad but like
Idk if you need to have the dial turned up all the time y'know

[next stump]

VGC struggles in general with people who clearly never played any kind of organized sport/activity before

no manners or sportsmanship or anything

https://x.com/vgcvictoryroad/status/1988713418128540074?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddfszOAZ6w

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[left bobcat]

Tbag could be said for a lot of games too especially since those guys are musty

[cyan smelt]

I gotta make a conscious effort to stop saying I suck after I lose a lot with a team

[real prairie]

We agree haha

But we love you regardless dw

[cyan smelt]

I'm gonna make an effort to stop putting myself down

[next stump]

[molten oasis]

Neat

[lofty tartan]

Good luck man. I think I'll sit Toronto out this year. 👀

[next stump]

thank you ❤️

[lofty tartan]

I am like.. on the cusp of finally opening a Pokemon store, so I need to focus my finances there

I'm gonna try to make 2026 my breakout year :]

[cyan smelt]

Is Emma going to Toronto

[next stump]

so close

[dense latch]

damnn nice

how bad is the elo gain per battle there lmao

[foggy lodge]

why do they say he has bad sportsmanship?

I really only remember the Chuppa disrespect on stream but afaik he is friends with him so idk

[shadow wind]

I love when AV Dogi lives a 4x super effective stab move

Also they messed up my type calculator

Man I wanna see that I can't hit x type

[chrome knot]

yay

[molten oasis]

Good luck

[forest arrow]

Goat

[next stump]

thank you hahaha

[rustic mountain]

nice

[cyan smelt]

that's awesome

[shadow wind]

Ok going back to the drawing board with Bax

[shadow wind]

I think I'm bad at playing balance

Which means when I build teams I need to build around my skill issues

[shadow wind]

https://pokepast.es/c53d45e1416c10a3

Just found this old team of mine

[shadow wind]

I knew Walking Wake was washed when it did sub 40 to Ttar in sand with lorb

[mighty stump]

goat

[mighty stump]

Choice Band Tera Dragon Glaive Rush gg

Resists also drop

[shadow wind]

The humble Sylveon

[molten oasis]

Who’s playing sylveon?

[shadow wind]

No one and that was the point of the joke

[real prairie]

@chrome knot ?

[chrome knot]

what

[real prairie]

Are you going Toronto?

[chrome knot]

mhmhmhm

i also playing the vr tournament this weekend

team im on rn feels insane

[bold geode]

What's good bro

[real prairie]

bravo

anyone got a build for calm mind Raging Bolt?

or AV

i know its low ladder but shocked i still won that

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2480542058

[waxen dock]

Cuz on turns 3 and 5 he just threw

[real prairie]

this is how i prefer games going: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2480545279

[stone trellis]

You definitely need to hit 232 HP for the Lefties stuff.

Or was it 224?

Yeah, 224.

[foggy lodge]

224

[mighty stump]

Shiny hunting Alpha Chespin

[bold geode]

That's cool
I haven't hunted anything yet, but I haven't got charm yet so

[real prairie]

@mighty stump

[foggy lodge]

They have the same energy of those weird anime variants of Pokémon

Like the pink Pokémon ot the snowman Snorlax

Wait the Crystal Onix could come back lol

[quick kayak]

Whats the best moveset for Starmie if it’s an Alpha in Legends Z-A? Not thinking about using it in Comp but since Im post-game, I like giving the best EVs / Moves possible to my Pokemon and Natures etc so can anyone help?

[lofty tartan]

#lza_competitive or #lza_discussion

That's where you'll get the best answers

[fallen dove]

yep

RBY (Raging Bolt) @ Leftovers
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 180 HP / 68 Def / 100 SpA / 4 SpD / 156 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Thunderclap
• Calm Mind
• Dragon Pulse
• Thunderbolt

idk if evs could be further optimised tho

[shadow wind]

No protect 🥀

[dense latch]

Raging Bolt @ Leftovers
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 196 HP / 132 Def / 108 SpA / 68 SpD / 4 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 20 Atk

• Thunderclap
• Dragon Pulse
• Calm Mind
• Protect

this is what justin tang showcased on youtube

[solid frigate]

and yes CM bolt 100% need Protect

[dense latch]

you could consider having a bit more speed to speed creep some other bolts

that's what i do

[stone trellis]

0 Attack IV Bolt is unobtainable, as it's hard coded to always have 20 Attack IVs when caught.

All of the paradox legends + Terapagos have fixed IVs, actually.

[fallen dove]

oh okok

[fallen dove]

rlly struggle with giving up thunderbolt tho

its either protect or tbolt and ive lost too many games by not having tbolt and letting an opposing fairy type set up

[dense latch]

then don't use calm mind bolt

[molten oasis]

Av/booster sets are also perfectly viable

[dense latch]

yea

[molten oasis]

Calm mind bolt is strong asf

But like, you don’t have to use it

Booster outputs crazy damage and av is a wall

[dense latch]

you also shouldn't have to rely on bolt to get rid of opposing fairy types

[molten oasis]

Yeah you can place Hearthflame for stuff like that

Or remove (mostly flutter honestly) with strong neutrals

Rilla’s great into flutter

[fallen dove]

both items are taken sadly :((

[dense latch]

what's the team

[molten oasis]

Send paste

Life orb raging bolt exists lol

[fallen dove]

will do when im home

[dense latch]

how many fairy pokemon with setup moves are really a thing in reg f

i think bolt isn't great against farig flutter or something yea
or tera fairy farig but you're not required to bring it to every game

[fallen dove]

incin with goggles - fake out parting shot knock off flare blitz
rilla with AV - fake out grassy glide u turn wood hammer
urshifu with sash - surging strikes u turn detect close combat
tornadus T with covert cloak - tailwind rain dance bleakwind protect
bolt with lefties - tclap tbolt dragon pulse calm mind
fluttermane with booster - moonblast dgleam shadow ball protect

[fallen dove]

its rlly my only answer to tera fairy ghould and flutter mane rn tbh i dont see other lines with the team im running

i am rlly inexperienced with vgc stll tho so im open to ideas :))

[dense latch]

it might be a team issue i really don't think torn is super necessary in balance archetypes like this

firepon is used a lot instead of it in a cm bolt balance variant

resists make it rain

resists flutter
ivy cudgel hits like a truck

https://pokepast.es/c730784535307987 yea here it's basically this
that last move can be a lot of things

swords dance
follow me
you can do glide instead of wood hammer or stomping if that's something you find interesting

[fallen dove]

no speed control? also wbout the raindance surging strikes combo?

[molten oasis]

Why do you have u-turn on sash shifu?

[dense latch]

icy wind on flutter

[fallen dove]

lemme try that :))

[dense latch]

calm mind bolt balance doesnt need super aggressive speed control

[fallen dove]

to chip ogre/rilla and switch out to preserve

[molten oasis]

Booster spA flutter? And bolt needs protect on that set

[molten oasis]

You don’t play u-turn on sash shifu

You play aqua jet or sometimes taunt

[fallen dove]

yep im running a slower bulky flutter

might have to adjust the set to survive a firepon cudgel tho

[molten oasis]

Tera fire cudgel?

[dense latch]

the one in the team i sent is 100% speed booster btw

[molten oasis]

No flutter ever takes Tera fire ivy cudgel

[dense latch]

regular i imagine

[molten oasis]

That’s double stab and +1

[fallen dove]

coz my set is 3HKOed by a normal rilla’s grassy glide in terrain

[fallen dove]

yep

[molten oasis]

If it lives surging strikes it should take a cudgel

[dense latch]

that shouldn't be too hard

[fallen dove]

gotcha yeah i was debating u turn or jet j figured the pivoting would be better

[molten oasis]

It’s better on scarf sets

[fallen dove]

i think mine drops to cudgel

i mean surging

[dense latch]

aqua jet is great into a lot of things

[fallen dove]

but my bolt lives like two or three?? earth powers from lando in terrain

[molten oasis]

Should take 2

3 is unrealistic

[fallen dove]

i think im used to three coz i like pressing the hehe calm mind button

[molten oasis]

Well, no it should take one then due to the next

[dense latch]

wait in what context

tera? how many spdef boosts

[molten oasis]

Even at +1 it goes down in 2 hits

Av is the same set of calcs

[fallen dove]

two normal but three at +2

[molten oasis]

Mm, that sounds wrong

[fallen dove]

doesnt grassy terrain reduce EP power as well?

[dense latch]

is your raging bolt a demigod

no

[molten oasis]

No not at all

[fallen dove]

oh wait thats when teraed im fucking stupid

[dense latch]

only eq and bulldoze

[fallen dove]

ahhh

[molten oasis]

Ok that makes more sense

[fallen dove]

man the more i discuss the more im worried about euic

[molten oasis]

It’s a hard game to get down

[fallen dove]

like i feel like im not experienced or knowledgable enough to make competing worth it

but attending looks so fun

[dense latch]

there's time

[molten oasis]

Don’t rush anything, go to have fun. I went to NAIC and had a blast when I was a lot worse at the game

[dense latch]

and you owe no one a crazy good performance
the goal you set yourself should be the only thing you care about

[fallen dove]

true true

[dense latch]

and yeah i'm sure euic is gonna be a great experience regardless

[fallen dove]

idk aaa like i see people here winning the GC and im like stuck at 1250s on showdown rn

[fallen dove]

oh for sure hoping to see dyl or cybertron theyre so cool

[molten oasis]

You’re new, it takes time

They have a lot of experience under their belts

[dense latch]

^

[fallen dove]

i was popping off during the restricted regs for a while coz of that iron treads dyl used it was so goated

[fallen dove]

frfr

[molten oasis]

Reg g was fine but god reg I sucked

That was not fun for the zacian players lol

[fallen dove]

bahahah i hit top 500 both regs for a while but reg H and F ive been struggling

[molten oasis]

I have too in both formats but reg I was miserable

[fallen dove]

i lived and died by TR lmao

CIR mirai was a banger combo

[dense latch]

yea i've been struggling a bit with reg f too but it's been fun

[fallen dove]

frr

vgc is just fun honestly

until u play the one shelter goodra player

honestly im nerfed 😔😔 i cant grind vgc as hard coz i have a boyfriend

[dense latch]

lmao

honestly so long as you're having fun grinding to be better will be much much easier

[fallen dove]

for sure!! ive been tryna fill my alpha dex with my bf and hes been naming the mons i wanna use and ev train when home connection ahd champions drop

mega gallafe is now spring oniin

[molten oasis]

Lmao

[fallen dove]

lucario is left right gn

[next stump]

the ultimate nerf

[prime ledge]

can someone review my Reg H replays on Showdown? I’m pretty new, so ofc I do badly, but I just need some feedback on my decision-making. https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ih1T0j5ARvRDZITVn-kv8Zt1ol9Vk0e9kj-_6CL-oM/edit?usp=drivesdk

[next stump]

sure, feel free to send them here

[prime ledge]

i forgot to add the link to my message…

damn.

there we go

[next stump]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regfbo3-2480884233-tnpoqglrr28nvn2re5rwer1rn7d3vo1pw

I think something was wrong with this fellow

[molten oasis]

I hate dozo ting Lu it’s so annoying but that’s an insane way to go about it

Play out the game and learn or just, forfeit lol

[shadow wind]

Wait

14 missed calls from Kommo

I must pick up

[dense latch]

i feel like his board state was actually kinda decent turn 1 too 😭 how bad was game 1 for him

chat was a pretty funny read

[molten oasis]

Could you not just wood hammer both slots? lol

He was probably ok

[dense latch]

genuinely what's the point of koing your own pokemon when the forfeit button is right there
you just make yourself look like really dumb

[molten oasis]

[shadow wind]

Kommo Club doesn't sound as cool as Baxlievers

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regfbo3-2480897977

Holy moly

Do NOT look at the elo, been trolling with Kommo

[dense latch]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2480897400-gflqb0i35x0l0tcb2aonavi52md26o8pw finally man this shouldn't have taken me this long

[dense latch]

1250 bo3 with lycanroc gastrodon is honestly an achievement of its own

[foggy lodge]

lmfao

me when I have to actually work on my games to win

[shadow wind]

I was at 1300😔

Flutter next to Gastro kills Urshifu

[shadow wind]

https://pokepast.es/8e85512c9945236c

How do I make this team not just instalose to Flutter Urshifu

Would Amoonguss be better than Ogerpon on this team?

And then replace my beloved Gastrodon for something else

Cause like Amoonguss lowkey be screwing over a lot of things that threaten Kommo-o

[waxen dock]

I think clear smog on gast can be a good idea

[shadow wind]

I haven't ran into a single dozo

He was originally tera fairy as well to really just kill Dozo

[waxen dock]

Its also good against cm bolt and sd oger

[shadow wind]

Ehhhh

He's gonna drop to a lot

It's a Gastrodon after all

Gyarados

Amoonguss Gyarados do fit fairly well together

Closest thing I'll get to a Groudon clicking thunderpunch into a Pelipper switch in

Yo I love this guy man

Only at +2 by the way

[real prairie]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2481102643

I can see why people like to play Rillacin

[solid frigate]

I mean it’s consistent

[fallen dove]

i keep losing im crashing out so bad

ive gone from 1250 to 1150 in like three minutes

[solid frigate]

It happens

[real prairie]

this team kicks ass https://pokepast.es/2d737a50c3b99eb2

[shadow wind]

Why Tera water Torn over something like dark? Isn’t one of the biggest issues with Tornshifu the Bolt MU?

Also hasty Dnite🥀

Guy just got exposed for clicking the guessed ev spread button

[molten oasis]

Yeah why hasty dnite?

[shadow wind]

Tera blast 😝😝😝

Drago have you been playing any Reg F?

[solid frigate]

trust me,he did, lots of it

[molten oasis]

A lot

[shadow wind]

What kind of teams?

[molten oasis]

I played Prima for a while but that sucked

I’m now playing shifu hearth lando balance

https://pokepast.es/c25764040055f0df

[shadow wind]

Yup, looks busted to me

Dudes entire team isn’t allowed in Reg H

[forest arrow]

I’m running his team but with dogi

[shadow wind]

Where’s all the dozos by the way

Haven’t seen a single one of him

And my team even has the peakest answer

Endeavor sash Lycanroc

We’re going back to Reg A with this one

[forest arrow]

lol I haven’t really seen any dozo, just getting lucky I guess, always a possibility tho you’re probably gonna run into 2-2-2 at some point

[shadow wind]

I do need to figure out my Ghold Mu

Best I got is forcing a Tera with Ttar or Flutter then Kommo’ing it up

[molten oasis]

Reg h sucks lmao

And legendaries are fun

[shadow wind]

You might be onto something

I think my team needs a fire type

Gholdengo wouldn’t be such a problem

Also would complete my FWG core

[molten oasis]

What’s your team?

[shadow wind]

Wait does Reg F have Drill?

https://pokepast.es/922a772a487365f9

I took an old F team of mine and switched 2 mons

Amoonguss and Gyara over Hearth and Gastro

[molten oasis]

Yes reg h has excadrill

Gyarados kinda sucks why not just do incin?

[bold geode]

Idk bruh I been fighting so many Dozo Ting

Worst part is my team has like 4 special attackers so Ting Dozo is just rough as hell for me

[shadow wind]

Lando

[bold geode]

The ever so loving Raging Bolt

[shadow wind]

How is bolt an answer to that 😭

[molten oasis]

Flutter should handle it fine no?

[shadow wind]

I’d rather have more than one Lando answer

[molten oasis]

gyarados isn’t good tho

Why not run shifu

[shadow wind]

I like taunt

[molten oasis]

Shifu can run taunt

[shadow wind]

He’s not bad with Amoonguss lowkey

Good defensive backbones

[molten oasis]

Meh

I wouldn’t ever run Gyarados in this format but ok

[bold geode]

I meant to your Gyarados LMAO

Gyarados kinda ass

Gyarados worse than Landorus Therian and Landorus Therian is worse than Incineroar so like
I think you can connect the dots honestly

Also using TTar Lycanroc in this economy is a joke

[shadow wind]

Well it’s been working so

I didn’t ask for a whole lesson on why my team shouldn’t work I asked if a fire type would make the team work better

[molten oasis]

We’re just trying to help

And yes it would but your options are incin and Hearthflame

[forest arrow]

And chi Yu

Flutter Chi still good

[shadow wind]

You might’ve been but the only other person to comment made it clear they were not

[forest arrow]

We LOVE Mirror B. around here

[shadow wind]

I originally had Hearthflame on the team so it’s not a crazy idea

[real prairie]

I may well cosplay miror B to B'ham

[forest arrow]

Goated

Fav Pokémon games of all time

[real prairie]

Have to lose some weight first or I'll look more like OP Blackbeard

[forest arrow]

probs nostalgia but idc

[shadow wind]

My thing is that I literally just need a way to hit Gholdengo well

I can figure out every other mu but Ghold is always a panic for me

[forest arrow]

Yeah any of those 3 are solid choices

[shadow wind]

Considering 3/6 of my mons can’t hit him

[real prairie]

It's it just Ttar? One shots it and tanks rain due to ridiculous special bulk

[forest arrow]

Kommo-o is probably the slot you change since you want to keep FWG, wouldn’t really take away flutter and if you take one of the sand pieces then that mode is nothing

[real prairie]

Make it rain that is

[shadow wind]

Nah Kommo is a must stay

[forest arrow]

Then idk lol, if you change flutter for it then good luck to you

[shadow wind]

It depends on the set but if they have a Tornadus or redirection I’m pretty screwed

Tera steel also makes my life harder

Actually not really cause then body press hits

I literally just need to make him change from a ghost type

Cause then Kommo walls with Tera and bullet proof

[molten oasis]

I’d play Excadrill here

You get something for dengo with fast ground coverage

[bold geode]

I'm giving you advice
You don't gotta hear it out lol

[shadow wind]

Advice of saying “Gyarados might be the worst mon I’ve ever seen and your leads must mean you’re trying to lose”

Twin not a single useful thing was said

I know Gyarados isn’t Urshifu and that he loses to Raging bolt

And Ttar Lycanroc may not be the best but it’s still an option

[molten oasis]

Excadrill over Lycan imo

[real prairie]

Do none of the team get any fire coverage?

[next stump]

i’ve seen kommo-o before run tera fire flamethrower on body press sets

could be an option

[bold geode]

Well here's some useful advice btw
This team doesn't need a Fire type, it needs to be reworked entirely
You lose to Landorus, one of the most popular mons, even with Gyarados unless you Specs lock into Icy Wind which is completely horrible
You get torn absolutely apart by Flutter Mane with literally any speed control support
You probably lose to TW HO as well
Ursh Pao leads puts way too much pressure on this and tbh like Sand is basically not great in this format
There's advice, do with it what you will or judge it how you will

[next stump]

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X · Nov 13, 2025, 9:16 PM

lmaoooo

[bold geode]

Also adding on to this, other than MAYBE Tera Fairy Amoonguss, I see basically no MU for Bolt balance taken into account which like if imma be brutally honest here
In terms of "trying to lose" I don't think you even have to

[bold geode]

Is this just Showdown teambuilder btw?

[solid frigate]

huh

yeah its just showdown-

[polar canyon]

They need to fire whoever wrote that post and just had to phrase it as "you won't find anywhere else"

It has to be on purpose bc no one can be that clueless

I like how the image in the tweet has a dragonite holding a fire stone and random numbers for evs

[stiff granite]

@charred saddle I forgot to get it back

[charred saddle]

😭 im on call in the ER for 14 hours from now

[stiff granite]

go save some lives

although i should set some kind of alarm this time so im not puttering around a week later only to go “oh hey maybe i should bother leo again”

[charred saddle]

honestly as long as i get to my room early, i can try to gwt it done by tomorrow

but yeah im really sorry

[molten oasis]

I’m popping off

[dense latch]

woah congrats

what r you using

[molten oasis]

Shifu torn lando bolt hearth and pao

Pretty standard but I’m having fun and it’s consistent

[bold geode]

What's good Leo

[stiff granite]

nah don’t be, irl is irl

[jade dust]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2481565228

This game was funny

[prime ledge]

how can i deal with archaludon with my team? https://pokepast.es/7ba18bc883414ec2

[foggy lodge]

Isn't that the old MDB team

[foggy lodge]

I think that team inherently just has a really bad Archa rain MU I remember Michael having to pick Magmar into it

[jade dust]

^

[foggy lodge]

If you have to pick Magmar against rain you just know you are cooked lol

But if you want some tip into that you can see his set against Shohei at LAIC from last year

https://youtu.be/Iy2BtuAilYE?si=Zya1YK2KdETLllLj

[jade dust]

I mean sneasler helps a bit

Close combat deals a lot of damage

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

Kingambit with some boosts up can also do stuff

[dense latch]

rain, especially erizabeth rain (the sinitcha ursa variant) is the worst mu for that team

i used it for 2-3 months in reg h and my main priority was trying to get kingambit boosted next to magmar so it can just deal a lot of damage onto arch in one hit

not the best moment for that team in the meta

[jade dust]

Sinitcha makes Archaludon way more annoying to deal with

Thankfully I run perish song

So I force it to switch out and can KO it guaranteed if it’s on the last 2

Forcing Archaludon to switch out is another way to beat it

So it can’t stay in the field getting boosts to sp atk and def

[prime ledge]

ah! uhm this was last-minute team i chose over the last 3 days. i also have more success with it. but rain arch was my biggest problem maybe aside from tr teams with two pokemon having tr. i’ll consider that kingambit strat tho!

[prime ledge]

magmar overheat has come in clutch several times but i could consider electabuzz with maybe thunder or smth to counter rain

[prime ledge]

new to vgc aside from like the popular ppl like wolfey and cyber, so idk what you’re talking about. got this from cloverbell lol

[jade dust]

Also I noticed there aren’t many fairy types

Flutter mane is the fairy type

[next stump]

shoutout cloverbell

great channel for beginners

[prime ledge]

IKKK he’s been basically carrying my 3 days of practice lmao

[jade dust]

TheDelibird is a very good channel too

[prime ledge]

i have also infact watched his reg h analysis’

[jade dust]

Yee he makes very good videos

[prime ledge]

delybird and cloverbell having been my parasocial/digital coaches or teachers at this point.

[jade dust]

My favorite are his breakdown videos of tournament matches

[prime ledge]

those were helpful alongside the stock market crash thing he does of underperformed, overperformed, and winning teams, etc.

[next stump]

speaking of analysis, regional tomorrow 😄

[prime ledge]

that’s actually why i’m especially trying to beat my counters lmao been straight practicing

[jade dust]

I can’t wait for champions to come out and introduce the new megas

Cuz while competitive ZA is fun, it’s even more volatile than regular VGC

[prime ledge]

should i lock this team in? https://pokepast.es/7ba18bc883414ec2 or go with electa instead of magmar? like i said, overheat does come in clutch sometimes.

[next stump]

lock the team in for what?

[prime ledge]

oh for las vegas regionals (senior division if it helps)

forgot to clarify

[next stump]

oh shoot, so you gotta play tomorrow

lock in whatever you've been practicing

[prime ledge]

yh lol

[next stump]

not worth changing this late in the process

[prime ledge]

the rest of the team is good but for arch encounters should i go for magmar or electabuzz? they’re pretty similar, so i don’t it’s that big of a change aside from typing and i think electa’s faster?

i don’t mind tera recommendations for the other pkmn too

oh and for primarina is sitrus berry or leftovers better?

[dense latch]

no magmar makes you kinda amoonguss weak

like yea both ebuzz and magmar ignore sleep and can redirect it

but you have no real way of removing it

[dense latch]

this six mons are probably as optimized as they can set wise

so i’d do sitrus

[next stump]

are you all set up in terms of knowing the process of competing tomorrow

[prime ledge]

i asked on showdown i heard leftovers, so is sitrus better for more health during temporarily than leftovers passively healing?

[next stump]

like getting your wristband and all that

[prime ledge]

yeah, i’ve looked through the schedule like 5 times so i’m good

[prime ledge]

was gonna get my wristband today but my guardians are busy. So i’m getting it tmrw

i also know the directions to the wristbands so i’m extra safe

[dense latch]

imo and more importantly on the original teambuilder’s perspective yes

[prime ledge]

got it

[next stump]

awesome 😄 good luck, regionals are so fun'

[dense latch]

dillon are you playing in las vegas?

[prime ledge]

my no magmar, do you mean not using magmar or “no, magmar is makes amoonguss weak.”

[dense latch]

not having magmar makes you weaker into amoonguss

[next stump]

no i wont be at vegas :/ my next tournament is toronto

[dense latch]

ah okay

[prime ledge]

i was considering electabuzz for archaludon encounters is it still worth using magmar for ammoonguss?

just for clarification.

[dense latch]

i imagine it’s better into archaludon and rain overall

but it’s likely marginal, not the only matchup you’ll see

• i agree with what was said about changing a whole mon last minute

[prime ledge]

alr

[cyan smelt]

What's the difference between league and challenge? Went to a place that the event locator said had league today and it wasn't on

[waxen dock]

league is just a general name to all of those things

iirc

so ask him what type of league

[waxen dock]

but you need to have your team in game do you know that right?

[cyan smelt]

well they said the next vgc event there was on the 29th

[prime ledge]

yeah, that’s what i assumed. or are you just saying this as like a warning of time constraints?

[waxen dock]

your team feels like a rental team so idk if you used rental but if not its fine

[prime ledge]

oh! I did get this from a youtuber but i’m catching them myself.

[waxen dock]

the team?

[prime ledge]

yeah, cloverbell

[waxen dock]

wanna battle?

[prime ledge]

on showdown, sure

[waxen dock]

whats your name?

[prime ledge]

Dumb Demon

[waxen dock]

i think tera poison is better since it gives you resistance to rilla and makes you not die one shot to arch

it also gives you resistance against sneasler

[prime ledge]

that is true, even though the stab is nice, and kingambit can take psychic types. but ground types are a bit of an issue.

arch is my biggest enemy tho, so i’ll go for it.

[waxen dock]

you have rilla

and i think the only ground type is garchomp which isnt really common and in that case you can just not tera

[prime ledge]

i was thinking more like the ursaluna’s

[waxen dock]

oh also him

but in that case you have both rilla and prim

and sneasler

[prime ledge]

i do usually bring in sneasler, so it is a good option

[waxen dock]

and the only top psychic types are both deedee and hatt and against them you have rilla and gambit

[prime ledge]

they’re likely tr teams, so i don’t really need to bring prim unless there’s an incin or dragonite.

[waxen dock]

yeah

[stone trellis]

Steel is still weak to Ground.

And if anybody's running the set that I use on Chompy, Gambit's just cooked.

[stone trellis]

So when's LAIC again?

Next weekend?

[waxen dock]

Yeah

[foggy lodge]

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If someone answers all 6 Vegas Questions correctly, I'll do a 48h-stream with punishments 😇
︀︀
︀︀- Gholdengo Day 1 Usage (+/- 2%)
︀︀- Amount of teams in Top Cut featuring all 3 of Incineroar, Rillaboom, Ursaluna-BM
︀︀- Best placing Pokémon that is not in Top 12 of the Usage stats of Day 2
︀︀- Pokémon with most wins on stream (sets, not games)
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FixupX · Nov 15, 2025, 12:01 PM

[stone trellis]

Type of shit Tera Bug Incineroar would wear.

[real prairie]

Claiming it's prize

[stone trellis]

Now we just need to make a jacket made out of Miraidon's scales which would also fit Ice Rider.

[next stump]

good luck Vegas gamers!

[bold geode]

That scarf is fire

[latent ember]

reg f is back dec 1st, right?

[next stump]

yes it is

does anyone have the las vegas pairings link?

[upper zealot]

https://rk9.gg/pairings/LV02kSgge3zYTKAwlomv

[forest arrow]

Oh look top 12 mons is just sneasler balance/rain/dug

[foggy lodge]

WHAT

y are they there

[next stump]

casters said they’re on their way to LAIC

[foggy lodge]

ohhhh makes sense

Wait they are at las vegas

I think a japanese will end up winning the event

[waxen dock]

the japanese trio

[bold geode]

Holy shit the venue is big I'm guessing

[bold geode]

Got a friend or two there but generally I also want Lorcy to win

[forest arrow]

Bro needs that dub

[waxen dock]

lorcy dont partici[ate in vegas

iirc

but he got 2nd in milawaukee

[foggy lodge]

Arath vs Taran Birdee

Lot of people from other countries

Quaquafraud on my Pokémon VGC stream?

Its upper hand what

[foggy lodge]

Why is A9 here and why was there no tera on Rilla

[upper zealot]

ye he couldnt sign up

[foggy lodge]

That last turn was actually so lucky for Aditya lmao

Heat wave miss + moonblast drop won the game

[bold geode]

@chrome knot DAWEI ON STREAM

[chrome knot]

i know

[bold geode]

She cooked Chuppa that game LOL

[chrome knot]

IM WATCHINGb

[bold geode]

I can still say that tho wat

She probably wins

[dense latch]

sub maushold is pretty sick

[solid frigate]

It makes things a lot more annoying if you are not playing Blursa

[real prairie]

I miss anything exciting?

Doesn't look like it

[molten oasis]

What a fun meta guys

[solid frigate]

I mean we finally see Farigiraf back in the game

That’s something

[real prairie]

Didn't we see it last regional partnered with P2

[rustic mountain]

incin the goat

😍

[solid frigate]

Tbf Fari is like dead in this meta so yeah seeing Fari getting used is a win on my books

[foggy lodge]

No

[real prairie]

Oh no it was indeedee sorry

Doubling up on anti priority

[foggy lodge]

On the Lillikoal team I think yeah

Everyone is using the mago berry dengo damn

[solid frigate]

Good thing it’s not the OG Fiwam berries or we have other things to deal with

[real prairie]

I feel vindicated

What team is Dawei running?

[real prairie]

Just seen it, interesting

[solid frigate]

Tbf if he rage fists Maus he might have a chance to win

Cuz Eruption destroys the Sub

[next stump]

holy shit just now catching up on stream

dawei is cooking

[bold geode]

Goat Gio on stream

[bold geode]

I don't know if you saw I was just wondering
Did you get top of ladder with the Ting Dozo stuff or something else?

[next stump]

Ting Dozo 🙂

[bold geode]

I see

I'm playing giraffe rn

Which one?

Yes

[bold geode]

Oh bro did you struggle at first to hit top 500? I've been cursed bro

I've literally been a game or two away I kid you not
9 different times
And failed each and every time

[foggy lodge]

THERE'S A LIFE ORB AMOONGUSS ON STREAM

0 SpA Life Orb Amoonguss Leaf Storm vs. 164 HP / 164 SpD Ursaluna-Bloodmoon: 190-226 (90.9 - 108.1%) -- 43.75% chance to OHKO

[forest arrow]

Ain’t no way

There’s a damn

Cc incin

[foggy lodge]

With tera fire eruption switch into torkoal both would have died lol

[dense latch]

huhhhh

i missed most of the stream i need to go watch that now lmao

[stone trellis]

What's better as a fourth move on AV Bolt, Volt Switch or Electroweb?

[real prairie]

Depends, you running sun? If so weather ball?

[stone trellis]

I could run sun, yeah.

[real prairie]

Weather ball
Electroweb /volt switch
Thunderclap
Draco meteor

I would have thought

Or snarl

[stone trellis]

Fire.

So Tera Electric or...?

[real prairie]

I like fairy, not many SE things to worry about

[stone trellis]

Fair.

Defensive Tera is always nice.

God, I wish my options for a sun setter weren't so limited.

[real prairie]

Whims is fine tbh

[stone trellis]

Sash?

Yeah, definitely Cloak.

[real prairie]

Cloak whims sash Flutter imo

Could run typhlosion + Incin too

[stone trellis]

Fire.

Do I even need Icy Wind on Flutter since I have Tailwind?

I could run something more useful like Taunt to free up a slot for Whimsicott.

Are there any physical attackers who become nukes in sun?

Or just any physical nukes at all?

Hearthflame seems like the only option.

[foggy lodge]

SHOMA HONAMI ON STREAM

[real prairie]

Heat crash gouging fire does well

[stone trellis]

Attack Proto?

And what about the item?

[cyan smelt]

surely clam

[stone trellis]

AV would be fun, but aight.

[cyan smelt]

oh right, gouging fire does not like lando

i feel like whenever i've seen gouging fire it's been clam howl

[real prairie]

Yeah clam attack proto tera fairy has been what I've seen

[real prairie]

Av is already on bolt no?

[cyan smelt]

There are so many mons I want to use in reg f

Mostly scarlet paradoxes lol

But also hands

[stone trellis]

I chose to forgo that.

Every Reg F team I make is somehow obligated to have at least four special attackers, which I thoroughly despise.

[real prairie]

Good with whims fake tears though

[stone trellis]

Fair.

I could switch to Lorb Bolt.

Purely to nuke opposing Bolts turn 1.

I have so many ideas, I just don't know how they could work.

Scarf Typhlosion, Torkoal and Whimsicott might actually be a cracked trio.

[stone trellis]

But then name a single physical attacker who wants to be in the sun and doesn't add more weaknesses to the team (so no Fire types).

[waxen dock]

liligant

hisuian form

[dense latch]

i think it’s hard to justify using typhlosion in a format where chi yu exists

eruption is very marginally stronger than chi yu heat wave and it’s tied to hp while heat wave isn’t

[stone trellis]

Oh yeah, La Creatura.

[stone trellis]

And Overheat is flat-out stronger, right?

[foggy lodge]

I know someone who was playing torkoal jumpluff flutter chi yu

[dense latch]

not to mention beads of ruin potentially helps your other mon too

[dense latch]

yea

[stone trellis]

On top of the 25 extra free points in Speed.

[dense latch]

252+ SpA Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Overheat vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Landorus: 198-234 (120.7 - 142.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Typhlosion Eruption (150 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Landorus: 111-132 (67.6 - 80.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[stone trellis]

FluChi Mane is one of the only reasons I can see to run four special attackers.

But I still need two physical attackers, else my team's cooked at the mere idea of an Assault Vest.

And Incin's out since I already have two Fire types.

Lando-T?

[real prairie]

@chrome knot How'd you get on with VR tourney?

[chrome knot]

r1 i paired into averi biery

it was a good set but i lost lmao, r2 i threw bc i was 3am wnd i was tired asf so i jus went back to bed bc i couldn’t keep eyes open

[bold geode]

Cleepy Emma

[stone trellis]

Is he even good in Reg F?

He should be on this team, right?

[next stump]

not terrible results in Reg F the first time

but most of those regionals are smaller ones, like latin america and australia

so it's a little inflated

[stone trellis]

So it's good, just not one of the best.

Got it.

+2 100+ SpA Protosynthesis Raging Bolt Dragon Pulse vs. 156 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Landorus-Therian: 154-183 (83.6 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
I like these odds.

[dense latch]

good is a bit of a stretch imo

it didnt see much play after these first few regionals

[stone trellis]

I could see it cooking.

And I'm quite frankly left without many options.

I need at least two physical attackers because any team with good special bulk would cook me otherwise.

And Intimidate + great damage + having a bulkier Pokemon on the team is quite nice.

Incin does all that too, but at the cost of being a third Fire type.

I could also add Rillaboom for the Fake Out pressure.

[molten oasis]

Lando t is just not it because of incin

It’s usually out of a job when incin is around and it also really doesn’t like shifu

Rilla is probably your best bet for a fake out Mon that hits pretty hard

Not that incin doesn’t

[stone trellis]

I still need one more Pokemon on the team.

And one that isn't a Fire type or a special attacker.

[stone trellis]

Hence why I have sun and Rilla.

[molten oasis]

Single strike shifu or cornerstone

[molten oasis]

Doesn’t change it’s not good

[shadow wind]

Bulletproof is lowkey paying the bills

[stone trellis]

Bandshifu sounds fun, love it.

Wouldn't Bandshifu + Flutter Mane be almost perfect?

Like, Shifu's only weak to Fighting and Fairy.

[molten oasis]

Rapid is better since flutter struggles against Hearthflame

But you have sun so, single here

Shifu and flutter are good with each other tho

[stone trellis]

All Fighting types and two of the three relevant Fairy types are weak to Flutter Mane.

And it enables some good positioning as well as cycling Fake Out, which I like.

[molten oasis]

Should be fine

[stone trellis]

How fast does Band Shifu even want to be on a team with Tailwind in it?

[molten oasis]

Just max max

Might be able to go jolly but Adamants fine

[foggy lodge]

I used jolly to outspeed booster flutter

[stone trellis]

244+ Atk Choice Band Urshifu Close Combat vs. 188 HP / 52 Def Ogerpon-Hearthflame: 181-214 (101.1 - 119.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[molten oasis]

Nice

[foggy lodge]

Shouldn't wicked ko that too

[stone trellis]

252+ Atk Choice Band Urshifu Wicked Blow vs. 188 HP / 52 Def Ogerpon-Hearthflame on a critical hit: 172-204 (96 - 113.9%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

It's a roll that is heavily in my favor, but a roll nonetheless.

Then again, I doubt most versions of Hearthflame run that much physical bulk in Reg F, so...

[foggy lodge]

Most don't really run that much bulk

[stone trellis]

I can also run Tera Fire to wall Hearthflame.

[foggy lodge]

Nah

Dark is better

[stone trellis]

Because that Tera Fire Ivy Cudgel in sun is looking mighty scary.

Dark on Band?

Who else do I kill?

252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Dark Urshifu Wicked Blow vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tera Fairy Flutter Mane on a critical hit: 170-201 (129.7 - 153.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Oh.

[foggy lodge]

252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Dark Urshifu Wicked Blow vs. 4 HP / 196+ Def Dondozo on a critical hit: 146-174 (64.6 - 76.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

[foggy lodge]

Sucker also kills I think

Grass can also work if you have problems with Amoonguss and a defensive benefit

[stone trellis]

252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Dark Urshifu Sucker Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tera Fairy Flutter Mane: 106-125 (80.9 - 95.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Yeah, no.

CC kills.

[stone trellis]

I really doubt I'll have problems with Amoonguss.

It's a sun team, the motherfucker's getting cooked immediately.

[real prairie]

Incase anyone is a fan

Anyone have day 1 teams yet?

[dense latch]

up in pokedata

there’s a ludicolo in buenos aires top cut

with ninetales kanto politoed which is arguably just as interesting

[real prairie]

I was running politoed, wonder how close it's to my team

[real prairie]

Do you have the team?

[real prairie]

Ah that's an old team, interesting to see it being ran again

He used it in Gdansk too https://pokepast.es/7409c17c90f78329

[dense latch]

oh neat

[real prairie]

https://x.com/Braseg_257/status/1990126405447831591?t=-wCFKy-Sko-_Z4p8-HEACA&s=19

Gilberto Goracci (@Braseg_257)

0-1 no registration into top4 con Politoed Gothitelle Ludicolo. Does it count as day2?

SI FA IL BUONO E IL CATTIVO TEMPO🌦️

Grazie a tutti per il supporto ❤️
Basta luego Buenos Aires
@eparrots_
#257

X · Nov 16, 2025, 6:34 PM

Guess have to change my name 😭

[dense latch]

Europe’s Best Ludicolo Player is still available I suppose

[real prairie]

Thought he was European

Yeah he is Italian

Think he's part of the same eSports team as Marco Silva

[dense latch]

oh yeah i just saw the tweet itself lmao i just figured since it was a latam tournament

[real prairie]

Guess I'll just have to win my title back in B'ham

This is kinda cool though

In traditional Pokémon fashion, I now have a rival 🤣

[next stump]

The Joe Brown Breakdown needs to immediately leave town

Never skipped a segment faster

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/4b1148a3c03f9ec6 thoughts about this?

[next stump]

Might be worth just running a defensive imprison farigiraf since nothing on your team really wants TR up, but other than that it looks like a solid balance team

booster speed flutter could be a problem

[molten oasis]

That’s just gonna be hearths job, nuking flutter

Sitrus Fari over throat spray then?

[foggy lodge]

3 sleep dire claws one paralyze dire claw and a high horsepower miss

We indeed are in reg H

[bold geode]

Get fucked nerd

[bold geode]

Bro see I like the idea but the execution is horrendous

[real prairie]

?

[bold geode]

No longer the best, get fucked

D1 hater here

[foggy lodge]

I didn't know he is Montana's bf lol

[bold geode]

Oh shit that's Montana's man right there

Let's go

[foggy lodge]

he didn't read the switch💔

But it's okay

[bold geode]

Was the turn 1 worth for Henry?

Yikes

The Dengo is a problem now

[foggy lodge]

Tf happened here

Why not break the sash

And now thr Kilowattrel is at +2 and has the still has the sash

Hm okay he saved it with the read

Now its switch into Incin

ANOTHER NASTY

This would be so good if Henry didn't have the sash

[bold geode]

I feel like Henry played that kinda bad

[foggy lodge]

Carson could have lost btw

If Henry hits dengo he could have lost

The Whimsi wasn't on range of tbolt

If you knock off and shadow ball you always win xd

Well Carson won

CC mir

[molten oasis]

Top 16?

[bold geode]

T8

[foggy lodge]

NO THE KNOCK OFF IS NOT THERE

[bold geode]

That Thunderbolt was never getting there right

[foggy lodge]

No but it could para

If it paralyzed he would have been on compilations of people who celebrated too early

[bold geode]

Yeah that would've fucked him LOL

[foggy lodge]

Yeah but its fair

You play to your odds

[foggy lodge]

Pretty sure you always win with sac Ursa and protect dengo

But doesn't look like crit eruption would kill Incin on that spot so it probably didn't matter

Tera turn 1 is weird

The Kilowattrel now gets tailwind up and Ursa outspeeds

Welp

Facade shadow ball

Protect CC

Dylan loses this one

I didn't get the dengo turn

ITS CALCED

Why not CC btw

If you commit to the double up I think you want to cover for the tera

Wait its tbolt eq

[molten oasis]

Tbolt from what?

[foggy lodge]

Kilowattrel

Dylan Salvanera in finals

The flinch didn't matter

[molten oasis]

Wattrel chomp top 4 or finals?

[foggy lodge]

Chomp who

Fraudchomp on my regional top 4?

[molten oasis]

It’s not chomp???

Is it really Ursa and Kilo?

[foggy lodge]

Yea

[molten oasis]

Damn, garchomp’s shit lmao

[foggy lodge]

Dude

Incin has won every single regional of reg H 2

lmfao

[molten oasis]

It’s incin lmao

He’s just that guy

[foggy lodge]

ITS LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE REGIONAL

omg reg H 2 is actually ass lol

[dense latch]

im so ready for reg f

so that incin can win every reg f 2 regional too

[foggy lodge]

frfr

when did the ursaluna fell asleep

[molten oasis]

YES

[foggy lodge]

This Incin has protect I forgot

Another Incin with protect

[dense latch]

when did clam incin become popular

[foggy lodge]

I don't know and I don't want to know

[dense latch]

i was too focused on finals to notice that meta development

[foggy lodge]

Fr

[cyan smelt]

Didn't I ask about clam incin a while ago

[foggy lodge]

Clear amulet protect Incin

Wtf that basculegion is adamant and the ursa is 252 speed

[shadow wind]

What does Flutter mane hate most in this world

https://pokepast.es/f2c1ab45ea0baafd

I need a 6th

And the Flutter MU seems a bit rough

[foggy lodge]

Hearthpon

[shadow wind]

Already got waterpon

[foggy lodge]

Waterpon handles it decently ig

Does it survive a tera cudgel

[shadow wind]

QD Volc?

[shadow wind]

Definitely not

[foggy lodge]

Who was in finals

Zachary Weed vs Dylan Salvanera right

Balance vs ?

[dense latch]

why is diancie so hard to catch in za it's getting annoying

[shadow wind]

It's back 🥀

[dense latch]

p2 ursa kilo

[bold geode]

Pao and Dengo could MAYBE work here
Also some other general advice, I'd consider Fairy tera on Bolt here and maybe Taunt over Shadow Ball on Flutter as well

What you have is fine in regards to the general, it's just other possibilities to consider

[shadow wind]

Yeah the tera on bolt was cause I couldn't think of a different one and taunt on flutter sounds legit

[dense latch]

taunt could go on incin instead of knock off or flare blitz which i've seen in a few teams

but fast taunt is absurd

[bold geode]

Taunt Flutter lets you have more for TR MUs and like
Icy Wind Taunt Flutter does work into CM Bolt
Only thing is you can't hit Gholdengo well but like Icy Wind drops + Incin

[dense latch]

bolt also does pretty good into dengo

[shadow wind]

Eh my Dengo MU is ok as is

[bold geode]

Also note that if you're having trouble against Flutter in Sun that even without investment, Incineroar Flare Blitz in Sun SHOULD one shot

[shadow wind]

Oh wait

Bulletproof Kommo

Yo this guy just got double defence crunch drop on my Kommo

Not cool

[dense latch]

skill issue

[shadow wind]

Truly

[foggy lodge]

Crunch on Pao on an Incin format💔

I liked hitting tera ghost incin for SE and blocking its rotation

Inci tera facade now

Yesyesyes do it

[bold geode]

Potential choke from Dylan?

[foggy lodge]

I think its wave crash

[bold geode]

It was locked into Crash

Damn

Zach wins off of that

[foggy lodge]

ITS CALCED???

[shadow wind]

Ah heck nah

[foggy lodge]

252 SpA Kilowattrel Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 4 SpD Basculegion: 168-198 (85.7 - 101%) -- 6.25% chance to OHKO (168, 168, 170, 174, 174, 176, 180, 180, 182, 186, 186, 188, 192, 192, 194, 198)

Kilowattrel is just a fraud

Esperate because there can be a focus

Okay it's fine

[bold geode]

That's huge damage damn

Idk what you really do here either side

Damn that sucks

[foggy lodge]

Yeah sucker punch is good its av

CC shouldn't kill

[bold geode]

Basculegion doesn't have to worry about the Intimidated

[foggy lodge]

dire claw covering the rotation i guess

[bold geode]

Yikes
This is gonna be messy

[foggy lodge]

There's TR tho

If you position Ursa Amoonguss

[bold geode]

It's messy for Zach

[foggy lodge]

But there's Rilla

And there's no tera ghost for Ursa

Rilla is the wincon

I don't like sending the guss

Too weak to Rilla switch

Gambit dies but

Its on glide range because of the poison uhhhh

Spore sac P2 ig

But Rilla should win this

Or the Ursa survives 2 glide

Its flip turn for zac btw

wait fake out its fine too

Flip turn fake out its good too