But like who uses Eternatus?
#competitive_discussion
molten oasis
rustic mountain
honestly all the trios are kinda mid
molten oasis
Wrong Mon
rustic mountain
just varying levels
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Enamorous I’m tired lol
rustic mountain
eh its still there
dense latch
enamorus is kinda like the ugly duckling of the genies
introduced later on
way worse than the other three
sig move can miss in rain
molten oasis
It exists
molten oasis
enamorus is kinda like the ugly duckling of the genies
introduced later on
way...
The rain thing is so weird to me
Why did you screw over Enamorous’s move
rustic mountain
idk if itd help that much
forest arrow
What crazy is landos has a chance to burn
dense latch
also the worst secondary effect
i get fairy is a strong typing and all but idt it was necessary at all
rustic mountain
whats the secondary
molten oasis
idk if itd help that much
It still was kinda mean
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.29.0
forest arrow
Lame
molten oasis
Oh it’s spread special play rough
rustic mountain
not awful tbh but yea not good
molten oasis
Could be better
dense latch
i forget they're 30% and not 20
but burn para and speed drop are generally more impactful
molten oasis
What crazy is landos has a chance to burn
Sheer force shuts it off tho
forest arrow
Oh true lmao
molten oasis
But that move could be crazy if special lando t ever returns (doubt)
rustic mountain
windbolt is arguably the best secondary and gets used the least
molten oasis
Thundy just isn’t in the spotlight anymore lol
rustic mountain
even if the move was better enamorus for some reason never seemed to find good footing (either form)
molten oasis
The tr mode not getting footing was wild to me
That seemed like a really good tr guy
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.29.0
rustic mountain
i think a different format would do well for it
molten oasis
Hm, I see why it was weaker now lol
rustic mountain
its stats are solid
molten oasis
That hp stat ain’t great but it’s solid
rustic mountain
its just not really a sweeper
dense latch
it's nothing too crazy but not bad i guess
molten oasis
It’s no Ursa lol
dense latch
but it doesn't really one shot anything and its spread is pretty unreliable
molten oasis
Oh enamorous was the same time as Ursa, then Bloodmoon happened
rustic mountain
generally on tr u want things that can just take things off the board, therian even w/ specs wasnt the greatest for that
molten oasis
Instead we have rabies bear and blood moon
forest arrow
Yeah it wasn’t even Tera fairy gleam wasnt picking up KOs with specs
Kind of pitiful to say the least
molten oasis
Tbf gleam is a weak move
rustic mountain
nd while the bulks solid its not cir which is fine in more sustained based games
obviously legend vs restricted but still more the idea on how it functions
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It’s like, 60 bp(?) because of spread
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.29.0
molten oasis
Damn faster than shifu and never popped off
dense latch
it's a bit of a shame it has to compete with flutter as a fast fairy special attacker
forest arrow
Wasn’t it used more physical lol
molten oasis
You’re cursed with bad flying coverage tho that kinda sucks
forest arrow
Superpower play rough
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And you’re competing with flutteryeah
dense latch
and the physical set with contrary isn't great either just doesnt have the movepool for it i feel like
rustic mountain
it's a bit of a shame it has to compete with flutter as a fast fairy special att...
yep haha which is why for me a different format that is missing flutter and other things would bode well for it
rustic mountain
we missed the tapus this gen, there will be a gen in the not so distant future we dont have ruins or paradox
dense latch
i miss tapu fini
molten oasis
Fini would be awesome
dense latch
i'd love to have ultra beasts back
forest arrow
Seems cool I didn’t play in that era
molten oasis
And it wouldn’t be Primarina 
rustic mountain
i played it in swsh, it was fun
dense latch
i vaguely remember having some fun with stakataka
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.29.0
dense latch
i might have some tr pokepaste team lying there from swsh
forest arrow
Celesteela is the reason we saw leech seed Calyrex
molten oasis
Like dawg look at that thing
forest arrow
I really don’t want to run into that
molten oasis
I played some 2018 when that format was around on showdown
Dude it’s so bulky and so hard to remove
molten oasis
I like ultra beasts I hope we see them soon for champions
rustic mountain
ultra beasts are also just a very cool concept and execution
molten oasis
I think paradox (past ones) are better
rustic mountain
forest arrow
Buzzwole
molten oasis
Future paradox have like, hands lol
forest arrow
Was he good
rustic mountain
idk bout sm but not in swsh
molten oasis
I think he was okay
dense latch
i dont recall seeing it when i played
molten oasis
Pheremosa was also like, okay
forest arrow
always the mons I like bruh lol gotta be okay or dogshit
rustic mountain
my fav is blacephalon and its kinda mid haha
molten oasis
The standouts were Kartana Nihilego and Celesteela I think
rustic mountain
also nagandel which is solid
forest arrow
Blacephalon is goated
rustic mountain
yeh
forest arrow
Nagandel is solid? That’s cool to hear
molten oasis
It was like that b tier Mon that was solid but not common
rustic mountain
idt it did anything crazy but it had a few formats that it did ok in
dense latch
i remember dynamax celesteela being insanely annoying
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forest arrow
But hey I’ll take solid
molten oasis
always the mons I like bruh lol gotta be okay or dogshit
Just be better and make them work ez
dense latch
im looking at some swsh usage stats to refresh my memory on some of these formats
molten oasis
That’s what I do and I’m completely mentally stable
rustic mountain
we need to get a fully realized alternate dimension starter trio (poipole i think was confirmed a starter in the sm games)
legends alola? 
molten oasis
Supposedly next is not gen 7
dense latch
coming 2034
stone trellis
The fact that you order moves in the exact opposite way that I do it annoys me for no reason.
molten oasis
Id discuss it but idk if im allowed
rustic mountain
prolly not tbh
molten oasis
I’m excited, if it’s true that is
stone trellis
we need to get a fully realized alternate dimension starter trio (poipole i thin...
Poison, Ground and Grass (?)
forest arrow
I was thinking steel over grass
stone trellis
They are actually an almost perfect type triangle.
molten oasis
They are that’s true
forest arrow
but they do make a triangle
cyan smelt
don't forget stakataka
molten oasis
It’s no fire water grass
cyan smelt
i love stakataka
rustic mountain
we didnt forget it
stone trellis
don't forget stakataka
We would never.
molten oasis
Stakataka was like, fine in vgc I think
cyan smelt
stakataka is great in tr
rustic mountain
easily one of the best performing if not the best ultra beast of gen 7
molten oasis
I said pheromosa bruh
forest arrow
My bad bro
molten oasis
easily one of the best performing if not the best ultra beast of gen 7
Was it?
cyan smelt
all i remember pheromosa for is speed swap shenanigans with caly-i
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.29.0
molten oasis
Ok wtf is that stat spread
dense latch
stak won worlds in 2019 thats pretty good
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.29.0
molten oasis
13 speed is insane
rustic mountain
p sure it was a mirror in finals
forest arrow
Bro what
molten oasis
I was not aware of that my bad gang
rustic mountain
stak mirror not team mirror btw
dense latch
na hirofumi didnt run stak
molten oasis
You underspeed amoonguss, you take like every hit fine, wow
That thing would be a nasty body press Mon
cyan smelt
underspeed torkoal too
rustic mountain
na hirofumi didnt run stak
ahh mustve misremembered. saw 1 game mustve been top cut where it dragged out a 1v1 w/ 2 staks
molten oasis
That sounds miserable
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.29.0
molten oasis
IT GETS TRICK ROOM???
rustic mountain
You underspeed amoonguss, you take like every hit fine, wow
eh 4x weak to fighting and ground it doesnt take everything haha
dense latch
i found my swsh cir team lol
stone trellis
It's a fake house, no shit.
rustic mountain
drago realizing staks kit is good: 
molten oasis
Wide guard, body press, heavy slam
cyan smelt
i love the lego blocks
molten oasis
eh 4x weak to fighting and ground it doesnt take everything haha
211 should take a close combat but yeah
rustic mountain
me having a shiny stak i got in das 
waxen dock
Good mkening guys
dense latch
i want one so bad
rustic mountain
i want one so bad
its pretty easy to hunt cuz of the 4x weaknesses
molten oasis
And bacon bird
dense latch
i got shiny xerneas back in like 2021
rustic mountain
ofc rng and stuff but yea
stone trellis
211 should take a close combat but yeah
And without lowering its Defense, it could probably start tanking the Koraidon and Ursaluna shit after a kill or two.
cyan smelt
most things with 4x weak are easy to hunt
molten oasis
And without lowering its Defense, it could probably start tanking the Koraidon a...
Idk about that
dense latch
i'd spend hours shiny hunting in das
cyan smelt
except landorus that thing is a nightmare
molten oasis
Those moves are so powerful
waxen dock
i got shiny xerneas back in like 2021
I have shimy xerneas in go
rustic mountain
dude stak is not taking collision course from koraidon
waxen dock
Should i transfer it to home?
molten oasis
It will explode lmao
cyan smelt
it's not taking cc from urshifu either
rustic mountain
It will explode lmao
instantly
molten oasis
it's not taking cc from urshifu either
I think that’s possible actually but probably not
stone trellis
Again, after a kill or two.
rustic mountain
cyan smelt
beast boost defence right
rustic mountain
maybe 2 def not 1
stone trellis
Yeah.
dense latch
252+ Atk Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Collision Course (Super Effective) vs. +2 252 HP / 252 Def Stakataka: 160-192 (95.2 - 114.2%) -- 56.25% chance to OHKO
rustic mountain
yea that secondary effect of collision is tough
stone trellis
No one ever uses anything above 196 Adamant to my knowledge, but aight.
cyan smelt
i wanna use my shiny naganadel
molten oasis
Yo I’m an idiot lmao
rustic mountain
i think it was just to show the max max calc
molten oasis
It does not take shifu close combat lol
stone trellis
Then why is Stakataka's Defense not maxed out?
molten oasis
Then why is Stakataka's Defense not maxed out?
Why would you do that?
dense latch
no stak would last to ko two mons in the face of a koraidon either
molten oasis
It’s naturally 231
dense latch
i can give it bold there's still a roll
stone trellis
Fair.
cyan smelt
what ivs on it do you need to get the attack boost or whatever, it's a certain nature and a certain number of ivs
molten oasis
Probably wanna invest into hp or attack/special defense
dense latch
but no one ran that much investment on stak at one point it's just diminishing returns
stone trellis
Lonely, 17 IVs.
rustic mountain
what ivs on it do you need to get the attack boost or whatever, it's a certain n...
neutral nature i think
stone trellis
Lowering, not neutral.
molten oasis
Oh yeah the ultra beasts would run wacky natures and ivs sometimes
Those spreads were weird lol
stone trellis
I wonder if Pheromosa had any Dark or Ghost moves.
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.29.0
molten oasis
Yes
rustic mountain
Oh yeah the ultra beasts would run wacky natures and ivs sometimes
most are min maxxed so yea u have to get super weird w/ it to get something else but most of the time it was sub optimal
molten oasis
I figured
cyan smelt
is guzzlord the only non-viable UB
molten oasis
I remember seeing some Kartana would run lower attack to get speed boost
rustic mountain
cele was one where its flexible tho
stone trellis
FEINT?
rustic mountain
on wat u could get reasonably
dense latch
is guzzlord the only non-viable UB
def the worst but there's some contenders for unviable ultra beasts
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Blacephalon
rustic mountain
guzz is in the running
stone trellis
Dark-Dragon in the era of the Tapus?
rustic mountain
exactly
molten oasis
Yeah that’s kinda horrible lmao
stone trellis
Figures.
molten oasis
Probably hated Tapu fini especially
cyan smelt
kartana and stakataka and celesteela are the best
dense latch
I’ve heard good things about gen 7
i always hear vgc 2017 or 2018 thrown around by many players as their fav formats
rustic mountain
steel type >>>
molten oasis
Oh wow it’s literally all the steel types
rustic mountain
also nihilego is up there
cyan smelt
kartana was particularly good into fini
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.29.0
molten oasis
Damn that’s defense is rough lmao
rustic mountain
yea haha
stone trellis
Guzzlord also suffers from Blissey syndrome where it has too frail defenses to take advantage of the fact that it's almost fatter than Zygarde in terms of HP, right?
molten oasis
dies to shifu real fast
molten oasis
Guzzlord also suffers from Blissey syndrome where it has too frail defenses to t...
I think so
rustic mountain
band rilla was also a pain for it in swsh
molten oasis
Regidrago suffers the same thing
rustic mountain
but dmax was a big help
cyan smelt
i know it was bad but i ran guard swap shuckle next to stockpile guzzlord in swsh
rustic mountain
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.29.0
cyan smelt
it gets body press
molten oasis
Those defenses suck lol
stone trellis
Imagine if Regidrago had 150 Special Attack.
waxen dock
Thats the blissey sindrom
molten oasis
I think that’s how gf balances those mins tbf
molten oasis
Imagine if Regidrago had 150 Special Attack.
It effectively does?
cyan smelt
with dragon's maw it does lol
molten oasis
Dragons maw 1.5 on dragon attacks and that’s its entire identity
waxen dock
Imagine if Regidrago had 150 Special Attack.
Regidrago and regieleki have their speed amd hp inverted
dense latch
i miss pre nerf eleki
waxen dock
Regi have 80 hp and 200 speed and drago have 200 hp and 80 speed
stone trellis
167 × 1,33 = 222,67
Wow, you guys weren't that far off.
molten oasis
So where’s the 200 attack and special attack Regis game freak?
cyan smelt
eleki was fun
molten oasis
(Don’t do this plz lol)
dense latch
So where’s the 200 attack and special attack Regis game freak?
regimegazygarde
rustic mountain
lol
molten oasis
lol
stone trellis
We want something that won't be terrible.
waxen dock
I thinl regidrago should be buffed
molten oasis
No
solid frigate
no
molten oasis
Regidragos fine
rustic mountain
honestly i think the requirements to get mega zygarde r not gna b worth the set up to obtain
molten oasis
honestly i think the requirements to get mega zygarde r not gna b worth the set ...
That’s what I’ve realized
rustic mountain
half health to even activate the mega? ik ppl will try and get creative but still
molten oasis
Having to be at half hp to mega is kinda ass
dense latch
it’s not bad enough to merit a big buff
molten oasis
Ontop of chien pao existing now
stone trellis
honestly i think the requirements to get mega zygarde r not gna b worth the set ...
Especially when 'Pao and Drago's PFP just melt it on the spot.
dense latch
sounds kinda gimmicky to me but who knows
molten oasis
And fluttermane
rustic mountain
Especially when 'Pao and Drago's PFP just melt it on the spot.
pfp?
stone trellis
FM does nothing to Zygarde.
molten oasis
Especially when 'Pao and Drago's PFP just melt it on the spot.
Go go gadget incin
waxen dock
Regidragos fine
Give this thing a normal sleed stat
rustic mountain
oh
rustic mountain
the caps messed me up
waxen dock
I used drago in reg g with zacian and it was good
molten oasis
Zac Pao could run through some teams though, if incin is dealt with
waxen dock
Just give it a little more speed
rustic mountain
zacian mid idk if thats wat id use as the zygarde counter
stone trellis
Zac Pao could run through some teams though, if incin is dealt with
That's where the second best Ground type of all time barges in.
molten oasis
Zac has a good niche when xern is around at least
waxen dock
At least to outspees shifu and flutter
dense latch
glacial lance :)
solid frigate
basically half of the Viable restricteds can melt Zygarde easily
Miraidon,Xerneas,Zacian,Kyogre(Ice Beam),Ice Rider,Shadow Rider
rustic mountain
yea
molten oasis
Yeah
stone trellis
Shadow Rider won't do it turn 1.
molten oasis
Zygarde struggles for a reason lol
solid frigate
Shadow Rider won't do it turn 1.
its still fast enough to do another Astral Barrage
stone trellis
Probably needs three to achieve anything.
molten oasis
Pao is honestly it’s #1 enemy
dense latch
mega zygarde means primals
mega ray, probably xern et
which can just exert way too much pressure from the very first turns
molten oasis
Pao just kinda steamrolls it
stone trellis
And it gets 2HKOed easily by Lorb EP, which does almost the same as Zygarde EP.
rustic mountain
basically half of the Viable restricteds can melt Zygarde easily
Miraidon,Xerne...
zacian included on this list
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwuJkg4aAAMLhMu.jpg
dense latch
cam you justify a mega and a restricted slot for it idk
stone trellis
Yeah, Pao is gonna have its biggest run in the first few days before everyone realises how trash MGarde is.
Man is gonna be hitting the Wally West pose, that shit will be freelo to him.
rustic mountain
is mega garde that much harder? its like 3 letters and way less confusing
im lookin like tf is mgarde
solid frigate
mega gardevoir?
rustic mountain
sounds like a new mcdonalds coffee
solid frigate
lmfao
solid frigate
I don’t wanna deal with Kangaskhan incin teams man
neo chalk moment
rustic mountain
also if incins in off rip thatd b lame
molten oasis
It is.
dense latch
let me use arcanine for a bit
rustic mountain
no it isnt (confirmed) atleast
dense latch
without it being a throw
rustic mountain
we just know itll b there at some point
molten oasis
Hopefully it isn’t there yet cuz I wanna break from incin
rustic mountain
id hope first format is regional dex
molten oasis
Incins great and all but, I don’t wanna deal with it anymore
molten oasis
id hope first format is regional dex
Bo1 for that would suck
You have to guess which ones the mega since 80% of the ZA dex is megas lol
rustic mountain
ur under the assumption bo3 is ots going into the next gen/game
also itll become apparent very quickly which megas are actually worth it
molten oasis
Oh I’m assuming we’re playing bo1 still
dense latch
i wonder how they’re gonna choose what gets in for a regional dex format
molten oasis
Unless they really input a bo3 system
rustic mountain
i wonder how they’re gonna choose what gets in for a regional dex format
i was thinking lza dex
maybe dlc included as well
molten oasis
Would be fun and get us used to the new megas
I’m using bax and Delphox first those 2 are so cool
forest arrow
maybe first format is za then second add dlcs possibly
molten oasis
I’d hope for all of it immediately tbh
dense latch
I’m using bax and Delphox first those 2 are so cool
same they seem really fun to use
molten oasis
We get the dlcs before champions
dense latch
hopefully they get decent enough abilities and available partners
molten oasis
Just don’t give Delphox levitate thanks
forest arrow
Yeah the abilities is the huge thing
molten oasis
Wouldn’t be surprised if bax keeps thermal exchange
dense latch
i wanna see mega bax’s stats so bad
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.29.0
forest arrow
Give +30 to atk and slush rush
dense latch
+50 spatk fuck everyone
molten oasis
+50 spatk fuck everyone
Lmao
molten oasis
Give +30 to atk and slush rush
Slush rush would be so fun
An actually viable slush rush Mon
forest arrow
Would maybe make baxtales usable lol
molten oasis
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.29.0
dense latch
can they save this guy
rustic mountain
i have a theory b/c we just had/hav tera as a mechanic all the new megas are keeping their same typing to not have it feel in a sense as tho its like a type change roulette
molten oasis
can they save this guy
Maybe if you put a bunch into defenses and then +50 on special attack
forest arrow
some have changed but i feel you
rustic mountain
which
molten oasis
Starmie
rustic mountain
to wat
dense latch
starmie stayed the same did it not
molten oasis
Huge power based on its ingame stats
rustic mountain
no like its typing changing
dense latch
barbaracle changed
forest arrow
Clefable, Barbarracle, Feraligatr, Meganium,
rustic mountain
wats barbs new type
dense latch
rock fighting
molten oasis
Rock fighting
forest arrow
fighting rock lmao
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.29.0
rustic mountain
still tho 4 outta wat like 30 new megas?
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.29.0
forest arrow
let me see if theres more
rustic mountain
also i shouldve rephrased, most of the new megas not all it just seems like they arent changing it as frequently as they did in the past
forest arrow
nope only those 4
molten oasis
Oh, yeah that’s likely the case
rustic mountain
like even old megas ur saying?
forest arrow
Bax most likely wont change
molten oasis
I just hope the abilities are good
forest arrow
like even old megas ur saying?
no just the new ones
rustic mountain
ahh yea
dense latch
chimecho is getting the steel type iirc
rustic mountain
another steel/psychic type? great.......
forest arrow
I feel like raichu x is gonna get the fighting typing if they hadnt said anything yet about their type
molten oasis
another steel/psychic type? great.......
Yep.
dense latch
if i counted between xy and oras megas 10 mons changed typing after mega
rustic mountain
I feel like raichu x is gonna get the fighting typing if they hadnt said anythin...
nah p sure they r both pure electric
molten oasis
They like that typing a lot
forest arrow
damn okay lol nvm
rustic mountain
wouldve been cool tho
rustic mountain
if i counted between xy and oras megas 10 mons changed typing after mega
ahh not that many
i guess i overestimated the amount that did
forest arrow
still double the changes we got in this one with the 26 we got so far
rustic mountain
yea
forest arrow
Yeah next one is the 19th
rustic mountain
oh fr?
forest arrow
Yeah
molten oasis
Next week? Nice
rustic mountain
1 reveal or 2?
forest arrow
Im not sure the demographic looked like 1
molten oasis
Probably just one next week
forest arrow
lemme see if i can find the tweet
rustic mountain
u better throw dat brain into overdrive and figure it out
molten oasis
Lmfao
forest arrow
lmao
rustic mountain
i was just thinkin 2 cuz we got the 2 raichus, then chimecho bax
forest arrow
rustic mountain
waxen dock
There were licks about the new megas
molten oasis
Bax looks so cool
forest arrow
Yeah we know them already, cant discuss here tho
rustic mountain
There were licks about the new megas
leaks bruh
waxen dock
leaks bruh
Ok
rustic mountain
waxen dock
I csn send you the leaks
forest arrow
I just cant believe we get the dlc so early too
forest arrow
True
undone sage
Yeah but I'm sending Tree some licks
waxen dock
They will give him 30 or 40 spa
And then like 20 attack and the rest in defenses amd speed
real prairie
Give Baxcal 100 BST
by wasting a ton of it in spAtk
solid frigate
Either they can go into Chandelure route and give it 170 Atk or they can go on a Pyroar route
cyan smelt
Touching grass and doing stuff other than Pokemon feels good
vernal shadow
So I feel like this would be easier to get the last ribbon I need. Idk wtf to do with tTar bc I've never used it. It's kinda a middling speed team with tr for teams where tw wouldn't get me speed advantage. Tempted to go with a bulky gardi set with citrus berry and give the life orb to zard but then that would make it purely a TR team
Could also continue with choice specs gardi for way more damage but then I'd have to swap out protect for destiny bond, psyshock, psychic or something else
Destiny bond is an odd choice but in reg J, it has single handedly won me some matches by letting me trade it for a restricted on the enemy side since nobody expects it
But I'm not very good so probably wouldn't work higher up
foggy lodge
why does the indeedee have fake out
stone trellis
Took me two tries to get a 2 Attack IV UBM.
Do I keep it or do I roll for 0/1 IVs?
foggy lodge
hmmmm
Probably the best would be to keep it but if I got that I would reset for the 0 iv one lol
Getting a hard TR blursa is so fucked up
Well maybe it isn't that bad
Cuz Blursa has a super specific speed tier where
Between like 50 and 60 there's really nothing else
Well there's Brute Bonnet maybe
stone trellis
Probably the best would be to keep it but if I got that I would reset for the 0 ...
I got a 1 Attack IV Lunala first try, I think my first tries are basically the best ones I get.
stone trellis
Between like 50 and 60 there's really nothing else
50 and 57.
58 is occupied by P2.
cyan smelt
What are good partners for blursa anyway
cyan smelt
Reg f
stone trellis
Oh.
cyan smelt
Feels like it hates a lot of things in reg f
stone trellis
Shifu, BB, who else?
waxen dock
guys i got the cp from the gc
stone trellis
guys i got the cp from the gc
Sweet.
cyan smelt
Chien pao, rilla, idk about chi yu
stone trellis
Yeah, you should be good.
waxen dock
yeah
stone trellis
You've probably qualified for Worlds already.
waxen dock
i hope i get the ta
waxen dock
You've probably qualified for Worlds already.
pretty much
but we dont know the details of the ta yet so idk how many people will get it
but i need to keep wining gcs for the ta
cyan smelt
I realised I've had a fixed mindset rather than a growth mindset and that's been limiting my improvement
waxen dock
when did they release the ta details last year?
undone sage
Did they not say that you get travel awards/stipends this year?
But looking at the leaderboards, both you and the other guy in your region will get an invite
There are 5 spots
We realised we didn't have my kiddos Nintendo account linked to the play Pokemon thing, so he didn't get his CP for the grand challenge 
waxen dock
travel award not invite
undone sage
Yeah, I mentioned that
next stump
they didn’t even announce the LAIC stipend winners until maybe a month ago, they’re really bad with that information
you’ll probably get it in Spring of next year
Can you look at the info from last season and guess the amount?
waxen dock
you’ll probably get it in Spring of next year
i meant when we get info about the worlds ta
next stump
that’s what i’m answering
waxen dock
spring next year that in a lot of time
thats like 6 months
so how am i supposed to book the flight in time if i know if i get ta only in may or april
real prairie
They assume everyone has money, one of the worst parts of Competitive PKMN
Personally feel all Regional winners should get an auto Travel award as part of the prize
cyan smelt
Is Brian good in reg f
waxen dock
they get 6000$ thats enogh money
forest arrow
no
waxen dock
Is Brian good in reg f
what?
cyan smelt
Brian hands
waxen dock
i think they just need to stop doing worlds in us
its so annoying cuz us is far from almost everyone and its expensive
europe and japan arent expensive and i think they are closer for some regions
next stump
this is from last year’s worlds
waxen dock
but they said we get first time ta so we didnt get ta last season
so i asked the support
last time i contacted their support they said they cant help but it was regarding the gc
next stump
where did they say they changed it? apparently your region still doesn’t get TAs for internationals
waxen dock
where did they say they changed it? apparently your region still doesn’t get TAs...
yeah, but idc about internats, i only care that they finaly give us ta for worlds
next stump
sure, but when/where did they announce that change?
waxen dock
thats from vr but i also remember that they said something about it too in the official championship website
next stump
yep found it here too
so it’s either one of two amounts based on previous years
$5000 since you’re under 18 or $1000 if they call MESA a tier 2 region
if you live in EU for example you’d get $5000 to attend worlds
waxen dock
and they said this
Hello ido,
Thank you for contacting Pokémon Support. In order to investigate this issue further, we will need to review the Pokémon Trainer Club (PTC) account settings on your account
but bro i only asked to know ta details in the clearest way possible
i didnt even say vgc instead i said vide game cahmpionship
next stump
I just checked twitter and it seems like they announced worlds stipend amounts in march
for last year
rustic mountain
Can I send you the licks
stone trellis
I can't believe it. I won by doing literally nothing last turn.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2479146411-jtcus81bo8xcmiow2xsm9bylhb5a46lpw
undone sage
<:Budgetkekw:815437009857806346>
stone trellis
I can't believe it. I won by doing literally nothing last turn.
https://replay.p...
The guy defeated himself, it's hilarious.
vernal shadow
why does the indeedee have fake out
I wasn't sure what to put there. It's attack stats are pretty poor. I could also helping hand I guess.
I usually use follow me, helping hand, psychic and protect. I thought I'd try it
Screens would probably be better if I wasn't gonna use an attack
waxen dock
but their support is just so annoying
i literally asked the question in the most clearest way that probabky even a player that doesnt understand pokemon can understand what i meant and they thought i had an issue
"hello, im a vide game championship player, currently first place in my region leaderboard, and you guys said in the pokemon championship website that there will be a ravel award for my region(middle east and south africa) can you guys tell me how many players from each age division get the world championship travel award in vgc in the middle east south africa region?"
that was what i said do you think its clear what i meant?
real prairie
Typical:
waxen dock
what about me?
real prairie
what about me?
how did you do?
stone trellis
Typical:
I'd say that it would be great to see this team in an IRL tournament and then I remembered.
fallen dove
reg f is hard but im slowly slowly learning hopefully im good enough come EUIC https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2479121728
real prairie
Let’s see the comments lol
X
solid frigate
Go nuts: https://x.com/VGCVictoryRoad/status/1988245329129730398
Honestly half expecting that
chrome knot
@next stump surely toronto doesn’t fill wednesday night right…
latent ember
Go nuts: https://x.com/VGCVictoryRoad/status/1988245329129730398
god knows it'll take a few months but i can't wait to watch the video that comes out of this
real prairie
Little ironic after him saying he wouldn't likely qualify for worlds to do it instantly after
latent ember
Little ironic after him saying he wouldn't likely qualify for worlds to do it in...
LOL yeah
i know he won't be going to worlds anyways but
it feels right that he earned the right to go anyways
do we know what team he used?
real prairie
we do not
latent ember
ahhh tragic
i wonder if it was something generic or something wacky
you never quite know with him
real prairie
he might go to worlds, maybe him being vocal about the issues means PKMN actually safeguard
latent ember
he might go to worlds, maybe him being vocal about the issues means PKMN actuall...
i doubt it
real prairie
especially at worlds where everyone is an equal competitor
latent ember
he said something along the lines of "if i show up to this worlds and have another bad experience, i know i'll never want to show up to one ever again"
im pretty confident he'll commit to taking this year off
real prairie
yeah i remember, my point was there is a long time for the organisers to fix their issues
latent ember
obv i don't know the guy personally but, it seems to be the case that he's generally pretty good at sticking to self-care decisions
latent ember
yeah i remember, my point was there is a long time for the organisers to fix the...
i think the chances have gone up a little but i still think they're quite low
real prairie
So Typhlosion Lilligant Torkoal won
How we know that?
stone trellis
reg f is hard but im slowly slowly learning hopefully im good enough come EUIC h...
Man, Reg F looks boring.
stone trellis
Three Fire types are kinda crazy.
But hey, it's got Farig in there, so I'll let it slide.
foggy lodge
Man, Reg F looks boring.
Its kind of reg H again
10 different archetypes
And none of them beat balance🐟
stone trellis
Yeah, except Raging Bolt is king anyway.
Undisputably so.
There was some kind of debate about the best in Reg H, right?
foggy lodge
Champions can't come soon enough man let us play megas already LOL
foggy lodge
There was some kind of debate about the best in Reg H, right?
Ehhh
Rain vs balance
But now its 100% balance
stone trellis
I meant individual Pokemon.
stone trellis
Yeah, but the entire game basically comes down to who can take the other's Bolt down first.
And Bolt shreds Shifu anyway, so...
foggy lodge
I don't
I keep my opp's raging bolts alive struggling themselves to death
And I kill the other slots lol
But yeah Raging Bolt could be the best mon
Lando I too
stone trellis
Imagine a trio of these.
Lando and Bolt pin opposing Bolts.
And someone could run Thunder over Thunderbolt in rain for the extra damage + the para chance.
fallen dove
Man, Reg F looks boring.
its got the same few archetypes but each rlly counter each other so its fun finding ways to beat the counters
fallen dove
But now its 100% balance
tailroom ursaluna my beloved
i love running shitass whimsicott with endeavour as well
rustic mountain
upper zealot
i was trying to help my friend get a gholdengo for vegas but i ran out of chests and had to get the last 150 from roaming forms 😭
stone trellis
I have one.
You could've asked.
It's 0 Attack too, I would've let you borrow it.
next stump
i was trying to help my friend get a gholdengo for vegas but i ran out of chests...
such a pain of a pokemon to get lol
hopefully ZA DLC makes it easier
upper zealot
It's 0 Attack too, I would've let you borrow it.
nah he wanted to use his own so he could change his nickname
its fine
cyan smelt
Is anyone using Brian hands in reg f
rustic mountain
its around
stone trellis
nah he wanted to use his own so he could change his nickname
I can change the nickname myself.
shadow wind
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2479362763-uf48qi608bpvc4ay6a...
Bro might be playing Terapagos
stone trellis
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2479362763-uf48qi608bpvc4ay6a...
I love watching balance VS balance because they genuinely do nothing but pivoting around for like, five turns straight and then they win the game in three.
dense latch
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2479362763-uf48qi608bpvc4ay6a...
poor guy brought a whole lot of nothing for bolt 😭
idk why i found that so satisfying to watch bolt is so funny
foggy lodge
poor guy brought a whole lot of nothing for bolt 😭
idk why i found that so sat...
Swapping the one guy that helps you with opposing raging bolt for tornadus is a decision of all times tbh lol
shadow wind
I think I'm a baxliever
shadow wind
Homebrewed screens
foggy lodge
Heatran is a thing in this reg right
It got second at Liverpool but I have seen one Heatran in my whole laddering
shadow wind
Like why does dude have 145 attack, stab prio, 120 base stab signature move and a signature ability that stops it from being burnt
shadow wind
Oh wait thermal exchange is only damaging moves?
My side wisp did not work
Unfortunate
Thermal Exchange is super good though
foggy lodge
Oh wait thermal exchange is only damaging moves?
nah
Well
It avoids burns from will o
I think it just avoids burn in general
But it doesn't give you the attack boost
You have to get hit by a fire move to get the atk boost
shadow wind
Yeah
cyan smelt
Side slot lava plume for attack boost
bold geode
It got second at Liverpool but I have seen one Heatran in my whole laddering
Flavio did some weird shit in Reg F dawg
I mean you should be able to look at Tera Bug Baxcalibur and deduce that
shadow wind
Nah that’s gas
timber falcon
F is live on showdown
ah alr ty
shadow wind
Does scarf lando run Jolly for anything?
real prairie
Does scarf lando run Jolly for anything?
Only if you want to speed tie Regileki
real prairie
I'm thinking of something like this but I'm not sure
Not going the tera poison sludge bomb route?
shadow wind
On what?
shadow wind
I desperately needed ground coverage but I guess special lando wouldn't be too bad
dense latch
lando i kinda clears lando t in reg f
shadow wind
😔
real prairie
Lando T also slower, so Jolly benefits to outspeed scarf Ape but that's about it
rustic mountain
poor guy brought a whole lot of nothing for bolt 😭
idk why i found that so sat...
yea idk wat they were thinking, and yea bolt the goat
dense latch
i should've stayed off this game
shadow wind
Yikes
cyan smelt
love okidogi
dense latch
i liked okidogi friendship over now though
cyan smelt
why is ogerpon so good
i want to play reg f but idk if the team is good and i don't have the first clue about EVs
shadow wind
What does that have to do with playing
I've used that "suggested ev spread" button more times than I can count
cyan smelt
maybe i'll look up some evs from reg f part 1 teams
shadow wind
Usually those are hard to find
dense latch
go on vgc pastes and try and find some spreads i guess
or pikalytics tho idk how good that is anymore
most ev spreads dont have to be that crazy if you're just starting with a team
shadow wind
So to simplify how to make ev spreads
Step 1: Determine how that mon wants to be used i.e. support Volc
Step 2: Max/Max/Min i.e. Max HP Max Defense, bold 4 spdef
Step 3: Adjust accordingly, if you're missing some crucial KOs maybe switch some hp evs into spatk
Step 4: Actually calc, go into the calc and find some calcs that are close and perfect it
Step 5: Switch around your evs with different spreads and see which one is the best for you, there will never be a definitive best ev spread
That's how I make my spreads anyway
Oh and jump points I forgot about those
lofty tartan
Bumps?
shadow wind
Bumps, Jump points, rollovers, whatever you wanna call em
lofty tartan
Where you hit the threshold where a stat goes up by two instead of one- people refer to those as bumps
shadow wind
I've heard them call so many different things I just usually call em jump points
lofty tartan
Yeah everyone calls them bumps. I was just clarifying, because I've never heard them by any other name.
dense latch
i've heard jump points and ev bumps
lofty tartan
Yeah. I coached with CloverBells too, and he explained them all to me
dense latch
what's important is that they're pretty cool
shadow wind
Agreed !
lofty tartan
Like I said - just clarifying so I knew what he was referring to instead of assuming I knew 
shadow wind
Valid
dense latch
what's not cool is reg f articuno ruining my fun
lofty tartan
Run steel bois like Gholdengo. Articuno has a struggle time with them.
That's the whole reason for Sheer Cold on the set anyway
dense latch
i led with two resists into ice incin and ursh
should've done well
key word should've
shadow wind
It feels weird playing it again
lofty tartan
God I ran a 2-2-2 that was DozoGiri, Tales/Articuno, and Crown/DeeDee at one point.
shadow wind
It was my first Regulation of comp
lofty tartan
Just a wee bahbee
shadow wind
Yeah it feels like revisiting an old playground
dense latch
God I ran a 2-2-2 that was DozoGiri, Tales/Articuno, and Crown/DeeDee at one poi...
i dont think you can get more evil than that
lofty tartan
I had a lot of fun with Tera Flying Ice Punch/Upper Hand Okidogi last time in Reg F
Got distracted. My wife is looking at Mega Man X model kits 👀
shadow wind
That's dope
Why did they think Glaive rush was a good idea
Also I swear I have been this colour of blue for like 6 months
dense latch
i’ll unlock 8ball some day
shadow wind
Wait when is 8ball?
shadow wind
Nah I mean like it's really good
How are we having new toy syndrome in the 2 year old format
252+ Atk Guts Ursaluna Headlong Rush (240 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Baxcalibur: 381-448 (171.6 - 201.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Why is my calc just lying to me
lofty tartan
shadow wind
When has headlong rush ever been 240 bp
lofty tartan
Yeah what's happening
rustic mountain
also new toy syndrome? ppl been playin ursa for a bit now
maybe not much in reg f but other formats for sure
cyan smelt
my team sucks
short quiver
wait a damn minute
short quiver
my team sucks
ARENT YOU SUPPOSED TO BE TAKING A BREAK DO YOURE RELAXED FOR TOMORROW
next stump
good luck 🙂
reg F was my second favorite format behind reg E
I had so much fun using heatran in reg E and he doesn’t hit the same in F
short quiver
good luck today Kalos
cyan smelt
ok, now i've got a few wins, i'm liking regidrago, it's a nuke
but the team is not good
shadow wind
also new toy syndrome? ppl been playin ursa for a bit now
Paonite and Flutterfish
cyan smelt
iron hands is really goated
shadow wind
My glorious king
cyan smelt
i can think of 3 good fighting types in the meta, urshifu, okidogi and iron hands
shadow wind
I don't know if I'd say Dogi is on par with Hands and Shifu
cyan smelt
it's really good for all the flutters and tera fairies running around
and ogerpons
<@&663761167176433665>
wild depot
please go #aaa-no-talky mr bot
shadow wind
You aren't wrong though it is good for those
cyan smelt
plus monstrous defence and guard dog
shadow wind
Doesn't it have like 109 defense?
shadow wind
And 88 hp
Hmm
What tera do scarf landos run
I have water on mine but is poison/ground better?
next stump
lando-i? I think some run steel too
foggy lodge
Ghost too
cyan smelt
ok this team is getting beaten by everything
shadow wind
Oh ghost is something actually
lofty tartan
reg F was my second favorite format behind reg E
I'm a big fan too. It's one of the formats that Crown is relevant in. Probably the only one
Rotom gets it.
next stump
i never used gouging fire before but using it now has also been a blast
like what do you mean I can switch into all of the ogerpon forms and take 25% max
lofty tartan
Yeah I loved playing some Gouging Fire.
foggy lodge
I'm a big fan too. It's one of the formats that Crown is relevant in. Probably...
Reg G💔
I miss Crown Indeedee Koraidon
dense latch
i forget that became a thing late in the format
shadow wind
252+ Atk Incineroar Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Baxcalibur: 90-106 (40.5 - 47.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
dense latch
late reg g was kind of a blur to me
shadow wind
I don't understand how that Incin did that much
foggy lodge
I saw the whole evolution of the team
Because the original team that Justin Knox created was Koraidon Indeedee-F Crown Venusaur Raging Bolt Chi-Yu
And then the NA group adapted it with Brute Bonnet and Flutter
dense latch
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2026regf-2479524939-755qipekt1b72qpbqqqyo71539prcwcpw had to bounce back to 1400 after some unfortunate luck in my other games
i love prio spam
foggy lodge
And the Brute Bonnet idea was adapted from Jamie Boyt's team
And that led to Brute Bonnet being explored on reg I
And then it won worlds
shadow wind
Ok what is goin on
shadow wind
That is in snow by the way
foggy lodge
Glaive rush?
dense latch
no pao?
cyan smelt
i think i need to use a proven team, tired of struggling
shadow wind
Glaive rush?
Holy I'm an idiot
foggy lodge
Lmao
dense latch
lol
shadow wind
"Wow this move is so good"
Guy who can't read
I do think Bax could be insane though
foggy lodge
We have to make a reg G tournament
lofty tartan
252 SpA Quark Drive Iron Crown Tachyon Cutter (2 hits) vs. 244 HP / 4 SpD Baxcalibur: 240-288 (108.5 - 130.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
👀
shadow wind
Bro wants my ice type to live a move
foggy lodge
I've been having the idea of making tournaments of every reg
lofty tartan
We have to make a reg G tournament
Why? We already had two runs of the Reg and people mostly tolerated it
foggy lodge
It was my favourite💔
shadow wind
I liked Reg G
lofty tartan
foggy lodge
And I think some people here like it too
shadow wind
I liked it because it gave me a chance to use solo Groudon
lofty tartan
I recall heavy complaints about a Reg G rerun. 
I personally didn't really care for it, though it was better than I/J, which isn't exactly a high bar.
foggy lodge
Ah yeah there were a lot of complains
shadow wind
Oh man I loved the Reg G rerun
foggy lodge
I think every rerun is bad but
lofty tartan
You're biased, Conner lol
shadow wind
You're biased, Conner lol
No this can't be
foggy lodge
But yeah its absolutely biased
lofty tartan
Reg H rerun was fine. Reg F rerun is fine. Reg G rerun was bleh.
What we need is like a Reg D rerun.
shadow wind
I never played Reg D
foggy lodge
Was reg D the Harc format or was it reg E
shadow wind
I think E?
foggy lodge
Huh
lofty tartan
I think E was the Harc one.
lofty tartan
It was just a different format for it. Not everything pops off in every format it's legal in because the environment is different.
It's like how Farigiraf is always legal but shines in high-powered formats, where it's almost completely absent in lower-powered ones.
foggy lodge
Bonnet❤️
dense latch
We have to make a reg G tournament
i miss my guy
lofty tartan
I think we could've done a pretty cool format somewhere in between all that we've had - maybe like even just a no paradox, no Restricted format would've been neat.
foggy lodge
But like why was the specific reason for that
Hmmmm
I'm guessing doing well into firepon
lofty tartan
Not everything has a clearly definable reason. Especially in a game with such a large amount of variance and volatility.
shadow wind
i miss my guy
You can play him right now !
lofty tartan
I liked Eleki on certain teams but it was really niche.
dense latch
it doesnt hit the same without cir tho :(
cyan smelt
god i love iron hands
dense latch
eleki pao lando best i got
foggy lodge
I like CIR it lets you run dumb shit
lofty tartan
Be crazy and run Defiant Genies
dense latch
but like there’s just this one other special attacking electric type out there
forest arrow
I miss Crown Indeedee Koraidon
Miss that team so much
lofty tartan
Yeah see, a format without Paradoxes but with some smattering of Legends could've been neat enough
Allowing all of the Transfer mons and etc.
Because Sneasler thrives in a format without Legends but suffers anywhere in a 10 mile proximity to Urshifu
dense latch
I like CIR it lets you run dumb shit
true
sometimes i’ll look at a board state and think man i wish i had glacial lance
foggy lodge
Me in reg H missing choice specs hadron engine volt switch
dense latch
scarf miraidon was funny
shadow wind
I don't even need to say what I miss
dense latch
precipice blades?
shadow wind
So we got a jokester here
cyan smelt
I like hands and moltres but it feels really difficult to get regidrago in a good position
lofty tartan
Anti-priority, redirection, speed control. Hit funny button.
Sometimes they'll switch Flutter into it. You just take it and hopefully KO the buddy. It's not always perfect, but it's honest work 
cyan smelt
Ok so I need to bring amoonguss more, gotcha
dense latch
i generally only see drago in a lead
yea sometimes it doesn’t do damage but its impact goes beyond that
lofty tartan
Yeah I did a lot with Drago/Amoonguss
lofty tartan
i generally only see drago in a lead
yea sometimes it doesn’t do damage but its...
I'll close with it a lot.
shadow wind
This poor guy
dense latch
forces a tera or a worse lead for you to punish
dense latch
I'll close with it a lot.
ig im just used to drago crown teams exclusively
bait out the fairies and fairy teras then let crown close out
lofty tartan
There's a lot of times, I feel, that you can lean with Crown and close with Drago. I've played that team too, and I played Regidrago teams before it and worked on some stuff with Grant W w/ Regidrago. I may just play differently
Often you can just push Drago leads and be fine. Lots of people overcompensate in team preview
Play differently can also mean play badly
I dunno. I just know I've closed a lot of games by pinning people into Dragon Energy. You sort of expect them to push Drago counters into your lead and Crown can help punish that. 👀
But I'm gonna go head to bed. I gotta be to work early in the AM xD
dense latch
I dunno. I just know I've closed a lot of games by pinning people into Dragon En...
o yea i can definitely see that
you kinda have to respect a drago lead and even if you get the call wrong i feel it’s not that hard to reposition with crown indeedee
shadow wind
What tera do Okidogi's run?
cyan smelt
i thought it was dark to be immune to psyspam
solid frigate
What tera do Okidogi's run?
@forest arrow
shadow wind
I'm getting real sick of this team
solid frigate
Nah that team is Goated
cyan smelt
it's because it has crown on it isn't it
solid frigate
it's because it has crown on it isn't it
Nah just the team in general
shadow wind
Spatk booster hits so hard
forest arrow
I run bug for Lando for balance, but I really only ever bring dogi to the Bolt balance mu for the most part
foggy lodge
I'm getting real sick of this team
Its everywhrre
That and bolt balance are the teams I see all the time
Pretty sure that team is beatable with balance I just have to practice the line
I fought one this morning and my brain turned off and I kept bringing bolt into it like wtf
shadow wind
Man my team feels quite trash
foggy lodge
Damn
Ngl that's one of the teams of all times I've seen LMAO
But its super creative
shadow wind
Definitely a team of all time
It's so bad into the Gouging mirror
It's 100% a first draft
I think Bax could be awesome but I need some other mode
waxen dock
That and bolt balance are the teams I see all the time
Fr
cyan smelt
I think regidrago and hands can be awesome but I need to find the right partners
molten oasis
Hmmm
gentle cragBOT
Result: 189.000000
cyan smelt
At my local now, I feel way more out of place here than at the regional
cyan smelt
Ty, gonna need it, remind me not to tilt
cyan smelt
Trust in the fake out + nasty plot + parting shot and pivot into another fake out
cyan smelt
Won my first match, variation on wolfey's perish trap team with grassy seed kommo-o
short quiver
ngl grassy seed kommo-o perish trap sounds fun
cyan smelt
It looked like a cool team but I've learnt how to pivot around with this team now, bar a misstep in the first set where I tried to parting shot soundproof kommo-o
short quiver
happens to the best of us
cyan smelt
I just spored it in the second set
short quiver
i constantly forget i cant whim encore incineroar
cyan smelt
You can if you're chlorophyll
short quiver
usually still works out, but i wanna smack myself every time i try it
short quiver
You can if you're chlorophyll
i dont play sun🫠
short quiver
how does the elimination system work at locals?
cyan smelt
It's the last person who stays undefeated
Won my 3rd match
I'm more comfortable with the team now
waxen dock
Won my 3rd match
Record?
cyan smelt
2-1
Played @pure niche and his team is seriously good
Irl events are fun I'm gonna do more of them
waxen dock
Played <@351277191310606336> and his team is seriously good
Did you win?
cyan smelt
I'm proud of myself I didn't even tilt when blursa got crit against sinistcha
No I don't think I won
waxen dock
How many peopke are there?
cyan smelt
Like 8
cyan smelt
Way more people for tcg
waxen dock
Is it cup or challenge?
cyan smelt
Probably not much since I went 4-4
waxen dock
Probably not much since I went 4-4
Did you check?
cyan smelt
How do I check
waxen dock
In the pikemon website
Just search vgc leaderboard masters and log in and they say your amount of cp
short quiver
Yessirrrrr
cyan smelt
Didn't tilt and played well I felt
short quiver
2nd is good 
cyan smelt
Idk
next stump
I think they’re saying they got 8 points from the local
cyan smelt
I need to double check the tournament results
waxen dock
I think they’re saying they got 8 points from the local
Yeah but he said " 8 from briabane"
So maybe he didnt get cp
cyan smelt
Where do I go to check I'm so confused
cyan smelt
I think I got 60 since I finished 133rd