#competitive_discussion

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foggy lodge
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Idk you want to give pressure turn 1

molten oasis
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I think zygarde will exist but idk how good it’s gonna be

foggy lodge
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Stamina arch and annihilape give pressure because you can hit yourself and attack on the same turn

stone trellis
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That's the problem with these strats, they rely too much on the opponent not doing anything turn 1.

molten oasis
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Xerneas probably shits on it regardless of Nihil Light existing

stone trellis
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Nah, it's one point slower.

foggy lodge
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Xerneas always shits on Zygarde as long as it doesn't mega

molten oasis
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Xerneas is a disgusting Mon

foggy lodge
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Dude its very likely we have a format with teras and megas at the same time

molten oasis
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Although if you ran crowbat you could haze it which is cool

stone trellis
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I wonder how much Tera Dragon Pdon Dragon Claw would do to Mega Zygarde if we assume that the Primals can Tera.

foggy lodge
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You could use z moves and megas in sun and moon right

foggy lodge
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Like you could do a z move and then mega evolve another mon on the same match

solid frigate
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There’s like two sides of whenever Zygarde’s Mega is good

And we are probably not in the broken side cuz how long you have to set up

foggy lodge
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Cuz that can happen perfectly

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Omg its a full 50/50s format💔💔💔

molten oasis
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I think megas and Tera’s is a bad idea

foggy lodge
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One gimmick per reg is fine

solid frigate
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Tera if it’s Bo1

Tera is good in Bo3

molten oasis
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That sounds miserable to play in

foggy lodge
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Tera still forces 50/50s in bo3

molten oasis
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Also primals shouldn’t get access to Tera

foggy lodge
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Do i fake out the tera ghost mon or not

molten oasis
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It’s still a mega

foggy lodge
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Nah megas won't be able to tera

stone trellis
molten oasis
tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 888: Zacian-Crowned
Types

Fairy/Steel

Abilities

Intrepid Sword

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/150/115/80/115/148

Total

700

Base Species

Zacian

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Pokémon No. 383: Groudon-Primal
Types

Ground/Fire

Abilities

Desolate Land

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/180/160/150/90/90

Total

770

Base Species

Groudon

solid frigate
foggy lodge
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Its manageable but the game does have 50/50s you still have to respect

molten oasis
foggy lodge
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With both megas AND tera the 50/50s increase even more

molten oasis
stone trellis
foggy lodge
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Groudon gets eruption btw

molten oasis
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No zacian before form change is dogshit

stone trellis
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So is Groudon before it changes form nowadays.

molten oasis
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Groudon is good in both forms Zac can only do that form

foggy lodge
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Wait it does get eruption right I am not crazy

molten oasis
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Yes it does

stone trellis
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It does, yeah.

foggy lodge
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Yeah I remember losing to Jumpluff eruption Groudon one time LOL

molten oasis
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But also groudon has 770 BST while Zac only has 700 BST

stone trellis
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They are both item-only forms of restricted legendaries that change their typing and make their base forms completely irrelevant.

molten oasis
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And zacian is in that form regardless of the turn

stone trellis
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So is Primal Groudon.

molten oasis
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Groudon and kyogre turn into those forms when they enter the field for the first time, it’s not the default form

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Eh, ig the dogs do too

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oh Ray can do that too then

foggy lodge
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Mega Rayquaza is way more broken than Mega Zygarde

molten oasis
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And hates zacian and chien pao

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Wow Zac pao might pop tf off lmao

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Probably with kyogre

foggy lodge
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Mega Zygarde is just the bait for everyone to forget about Mega Rayquaza

molten oasis
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Nihil light is still crazy broken of a move tho

foggy lodge
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And it can hold loaded dice

molten oasis
foggy lodge
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It can be a scale shot sweeper

molten oasis
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Dragon ascent already lowers defense youre gonna be a piece of paper

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Why would you not just play clam?

foggy lodge
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Or maybe you just run sash

molten oasis
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Or sash yeah

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 384: Rayquaza-Mega
Types

Dragon/Flying

Abilities

Delta Stream

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

105/180/100/180/100/115

Total

780

Base Species

Rayquaza

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Pokémon No. 384: Rayquaza-Mega
Types

Dragon/Flying

Abilities

Delta Stream

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

105/180/100/180/100/115

Total

780

Base Species

Rayquaza

molten oasis
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It’s bulky, I guess

foggy lodge
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115 SPEED WHAT

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i thought it was 100

solid frigate
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Yeah it was fast in the old times

molten oasis
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Oh it outspeeds ogerpon

dapper swan
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Mega zygarde is not a good mon. Dont compsre him to my goat mega ray

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Dont you hsve to be weak to mega him? I forget how power construct works

foggy lodge
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Yeah it has to get to 50% HP

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And then it transforms

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And just the next turn you can mega evolve

waxen dock
solid frigate
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The mega itself is good but the initial setup is just not worth it in VGC

dapper swan
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Yeah its not a good mon if you have to be weak to mega evo

waxen dock
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especially when there is chien pao

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cuz it can just ohko it, there is also miraidon who counters it

dapper swan
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Yeah pao eats him up

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God i hate pao ngl such an annoying ass mon

solid frigate
chrome knot
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@bold geode im fucked

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i got a new prescription that requires pill cutting again LOL

bold geode
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Get a fucking pill cutter girl

chrome knot
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I ORDERED ONE

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u fool smh

dapper swan
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I just lost a reg h scrim by getting dbl frozen and then i missed my pop bomb after thawing out😭😭😭

foggy lodge
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Reg H best regulation of SV they said

stone trellis
foggy lodge
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I hate double restricted personally

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it overcentralized the meta too much and made every comp much more locked on what they can run

stone trellis
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I don't know, man.

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It's been a fun format for me so far.

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I guess I thrive in high-power formats.

molten oasis
bold geode
chrome knot
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blaaaaaaa

dense latch
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but reg f came at a great time im starting to really like it

molten oasis
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Reg hell

dense latch
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one day my ninetales will lock in like this

molten oasis
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Real

stone trellis
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I don't have Twitter, what did A9 do?

molten oasis
dense latch
stone trellis
molten oasis
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Real

stone trellis
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I will forever remember that shit.

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Living a CSR Astral Barrage is great, but living at 1 HP is so much more fun.

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(Even though I only had a 37,5% chance of dying that turn)

polar canyon
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It's gonna be funny if mega zygarde ends up being unpopular because of power construct

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I can imagine the timeline where because people just don't want to attack zygarde because of the risk of triggering 100% form + mega teams just start running self proc zygarde

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Moves calculated to deal 51%

tiny karmaBOT
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Move: Blizzard

Has a 10% chance to freeze the target. If the weather is Snow, this move does not check accuracy.

Type

Ice

Category

Special

Power

110

Accuracy

70

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Wind

Triggers Wind Power and Wind Rider.

fallen dove
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hello!! i am building a team for myself this reg F and im wondering if incin-rilla-ursh-torn-fluttermane-ragingbolt would work? ive played a few games went 5-3 on showdown and idk raging bolt feels rlly awkward to play. might not j fit my playstyle ig but i find myself running ursh torn as lead like 90% of the time (i like either fast tailwind or tailroom)

incin has the rocky helmet
rilla has AV
ursh has sash
torn has covert cloak
flutter has specs with defense investment
RB has booster spatk

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could i have suggestions? my incin and rilla were taken from my reg H teams so maybe their evs arent the best

dense latch
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if you dont want bolt lando could be an option

ionic solar
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Any showdown players awake

cyan smelt
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When does gc start

real prairie
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Good luck to anyone competing

azure ether
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How do gems work with multi hit moves? (Water Gem Surging Strikes)

next stump
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is water gem an item anymore

azure ether
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nope, but my local group was discussing about generational gimmicks and I was wondering how that would work

polar canyon
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I can imagine what the answer is myself but that's what they're asking

waxen dock
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Just so fun to probably lose a game cuz you missed scale shot

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This game is something else

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Just so fun

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Ot at least i won this game

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But only cuz my opponent played bad

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And somehow im now 2-0

waxen dock
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Now 5-1

waxen dock
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If i finish this day above 1600 i will be happy

knotty mirage
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At that point it would prolly just okhod by dynamax chien pao

narrow lily
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Where can I find a build for dragonite that's recent? Pikalytics only has usage % but not builds.

solemn flicker
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Just depends if for Doubles or singles

narrow lily
solemn flicker
# narrow lily doubles

The thing is Dragonite is soooo versatile with moves that you can even go a bulky set with Roost and Dragon Dance set up but I wouldnt recommend it unless you got support mons to back it up. Im used to using Dnite as a physical sweeper.

I personally would run either one of these two if you are an offensive user.

  1. Multiscale ability with Clear Amulet (Tera Normal)
    -Extreme speed
    -Protect
    -Outrage
    -Iron Head or Ice Spinner
    252 Attack and 252 Speed and 4 HP

  2. Multiscale ability with Loaded Dice (Tera Normal or Steel for defensive purposes or Ghost to avoid Fake Outs)
    -Scale Shot
    -Extreme speed
    -Protect
    -Stomping Tantrum or Iron Head
    252 Atk/252 Speed/4Def

narrow lily
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What other pokes do I use with Dragonite?

solemn flicker
# narrow lily What other pokes do I use with Dragonite?

Chien Pao is a great one to further boost damage. We call it Pao-Nite. Amoonguss is good too as it can redirect hits going into Dnite and lastly maybe Grimmsnarl for more support with screens and all. Maybe any Fake out user like Incin.

narrow lily
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So whats your team

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of 6 pokes

solemn flicker
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If Im you, I would start a team build like this:
-Dnite
-Chien Pao
-Incineroar
-Amoonguss
-Flutter Mane
-Girafarig or Gholdengo

Assuming this is for Reg F.

solemn flicker
narrow lily
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Ahhh, so tyranitar garchomp duo?

narrow lily
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Is there a set I can find?

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So I can ev train them properly, moves etc

solemn flicker
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I would go max attack and max speed on both chien pao and dragonite. Flutter mane max sp atk and max speed. Round off all 3 with HP or Defense.

Amoonguss and Incineroar are tricky so you would have to play around with that but usually max HP on both. The rest spread out with Sp Def, Def and for Incin maybe slight bit of speed or atk but up to you.

narrow lily
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thanks

waxen dock
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now 5-2

next stump
solid frigate
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Outside of EVs can be further Optimised

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And Urshifu likes Aqua Jet over U-turn in Sash Sets,but that’s just my Preference

fallen dove
fallen dove
dense latch
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calm mind bolt usually does dragon pulse thunderclap calm mind protect

solid frigate
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Overall besides Bolt and Incin need some changes I would say you definitely tried your best

real prairie
waxen dock
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ok, my opponent had a diss, and i thought, oh no i had a this what am i going to do now?, and it turns out my opponent had a diss and i was like, phew

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now im 12-3 with 1604 elo

solid frigate
bold geode
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@molten oasis 6 7

gentle cragBOT
waxen dock
real prairie
waxen dock
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My pokemon home became japanese

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Will probably patch up after i reopen the up

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For some reason it doeant show the grand challenge

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And it patched up

real prairie
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Think I'm 9-6 day 1

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Sloppy mistakes but enjoying the run

solid frigate
stone trellis
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The Rayquaza + Minecraft YouTubers' favorite material duo is cracked sometimes.

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Is AV Jolly Chien-Pao a thing?

cyan smelt
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Paul U told me U weren't good at battling

fallen dove
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yea amoonguss gave me some issues icl

fallen dove
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do i have any big weaknesses rn?

stone trellis
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I'm not.

cyan smelt
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But you're 1500 in reg j

stone trellis
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I use a good team.

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Quite frankly, a blind infant could get a 75% GXE with that shit if they know how to use it.

chrome knot
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WHAT THE HELL

left bobcat
foggy lodge
stone trellis
chrome knot
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wut

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there was no amoonguss at all

cyan smelt
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won my first game, does it still count if they ragequit

stone trellis
stone trellis
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I also made a water glass balance perfectly for no reason.

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A9 Balance this, Raging Bolt balance that, try balancing that shit on accident.

molten oasis
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Baxcalibur is a cool guy that I actually think is solid anti meta atm

lofty tartan
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Baxcalibur is always a cool guy

stiff granite
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@half garden you released my Mew right

nova token
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Who can help me come up with builds for these mons?
Blacephalon-special sweeper
mega rayquaxa-physical sweeper
giritina-annoying wall
rotom oven-special tank, pivot
Lugia- special wall
ferrothorn- defensive wall and rocks setter

nova token
foggy lodge
nova token
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Who can help me come up with builds for these mons?
Blacephalon-special sweeper
mega rayquaxa-physical sweeper
giritina-annoying wall
rotom oven-special tank, pivot
Lugia- special wall
ferrothorn- defensive wall and rocks setter

next stump
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hey brother please dont spam the chat

nova token
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ok

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I have access to mega, z moves and terra. Who can help me come up with builds for these mons?
Blacephalon-special sweeper
mega rayquaxa-physical sweeper
giritina-annoying wall
rotom oven-special tank, pivot
Lugia- special wall
ferrothorn- defensive wall and rocks setter

dense latch
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lmao

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this looks like an insanely niche format so no one knows much about how it’s gonna work

spamming the chat isn’t helping your chances of getting feedback either lol

tribal vortex
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That's just a showdown team. Or an USUM. Forgot if there's megas in that. But honestly, going into multiple channels spamming just annoys people

dense latch
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the tera bit is what weirds me out i guess it’s nat dex?

tribal vortex
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Welp, scratch USUM. They mention Tera. Sooo, showdown team maybe PikaLmao
Or Champions when it comes out

foggy lodge
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if no one answers is not because we don't want to help is cuz we have no idea of what to do😭

short quiver
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yk how you want a mons hp to end in a 9 for lorb?
is there anything similar for a mon with a flame orb?

rustic mountain
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erik answered is he no one?

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but yea no regular format is that gna be allowed u have 3 restricteds there and bad ones at that

rustic mountain
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do i know what the optimal number would be? no

short quiver
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thats very helpful, thank you 🫠

rustic mountain
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i mean ud have to calculate the % of burn chip

short quiver
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isnt it 1/16th

rustic mountain
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and then factor that in the same way u do for life orb giving urself as much extra ticks as possible

rustic mountain
bold geode
dense latch
dense latch
bold geode
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Nah LMAO

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You good man

short quiver
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do either of you have an answer to my question?

waxen dock
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and i lost to 1400 guy

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cuz this person had literly quick claw snorlax

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thats just so annoying

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that i lose to shit like this cuz he got some luck

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with quick claw

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who agrees with me?

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im just so annoyind cuz i lost to a guy using some cheesey team with so much rng dependent

waxen dock
short quiver
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🤷‍♂️

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is that rng or skill issue then

waxen dock
short quiver
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so a skill issue

waxen dock
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its rng based cheese

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if it was normal cheese i think i would have deserved to lose

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and noy my oppopnent got a crit

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its just lucky kids, notihng else

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this i s the gc, lucky kids that sabotage comopeteitors players to get cp

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ok at least this game i barerly won

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but thats just so annoying to lose to little kids runing the most rng based cheese

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while they get lucky and his quick claw decide to activate exactly on the turn most important

cyan smelt
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at least it's not quick claw quick draw slowbro

waxen dock
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but i lost 25 elo for this shit

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its just some kid who got lucky =on the right turn

cyan smelt
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can't win every game

waxen dock
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yeah but i also cant lose every game cuz someone run a cheese team

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do you understand me?

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i think you do

cyan smelt
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idk what to tell you, there's lots of cheese in the gc

waxen dock
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and i got a burn that didnt matter on my opponent

waxen dock
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that proves there is a problem in the game

cyan smelt
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at least it ain't as bad as randbats

waxen dock
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at least i won this game now

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now 15-4

cyan smelt
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i need to play, i've only played 1 game so far

waxen dock
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without this lose i would be on 1650 elo already

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nopw im only 1628

cyan smelt
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what's the most common pokemon you've seen

waxen dock
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idk

cyan smelt
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besides like incin

waxen dock
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i fought mostly low ladder

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so maybe like garchomp or rilla

cyan smelt
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this meta is fun, it's just make it rain, parting shot, fake out, scale shot, shadow ball, earth power

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rage fist

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electro shot etc

waxen dock
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i aim in the gc do do each 5 battles 4-1 or less

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either 4-1 or 5-0

cyan smelt
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grimmsnarl is trash in the current meta isn't it

cyan smelt
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i understand tera electric on blursa now, resists hurricane, make it rain and electro shot

scenic oriole
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Morning folks, doing some testing for reg F, I just want to check an interaction

If a prankster pokemon uses haze, would a dark type be affected? Wondering as haze doesn't actively target a mon

cyan smelt
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haze affects the field, it doesn't target any specific pokemon so dark types would be affected

scenic oriole
gentle cragBOT
cyan smelt
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yw

stiff granite
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omg I pinged the wrong bububaba here earlier by accident I think

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@charred saddle shinymewbongo KEKWCRY

waxen dock
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Above 1500?

cyan smelt
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i haven't played

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i'm gonna hop on now

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been procrastinating with randbats

charred saddle
cyan smelt
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lost my second game

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he read me like a book

undone sage
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My kiddo been participating in the GC for the first time, doing ok

cyan smelt
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oh fuck it's mausape

undone sage
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He got matched up once with one of the worlds kids he played at regionals KEKLaugh

cyan smelt
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if he leads anything other than mausape i'm screwed because i picked rilla sneasler

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and this one read me too

charred saddle
cyan smelt
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goddamn both gholdengo and annihilape outsped smeargle

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well 1-2 so far isn't great

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that must have been specs gholdengo

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now i got rilla and indeedee

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and coalossal

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breaking swipe dragapult

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with sash ffs

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i'm done, i lost again

waxen dock
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Im 16-4 and i want to do like 35-10

cyan smelt
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this gc is too hard man

waxen dock
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Or 36-9

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Or 34-11

cyan smelt
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i'm 1-3

waxen dock
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Something like that

cyan smelt
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i can't deal with this shit

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i hope i can improve soon

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embarrassing to lose to fucking coalossal

waxen dock
cyan smelt
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i can't do this

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i suck

waxen dock
cyan smelt
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vgc is too difficult man especially for someone with my disabilities

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ok yay i won one

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2-3 now

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ofc the gastrodon is tera grass

cyan smelt
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yeah mental health stuff

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i have autism and schizophrenia

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3-3 now yay

stone trellis
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Oh.

cyan smelt
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makes games that require a lot of thinking really tough

knotty mirage
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I have question is mega zygarde could be broken on VGC or is it just overhyped ?

cyan smelt
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well i lost because i didn't predict a tera poison on prim

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3-4

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i feel so slow mentally

stone trellis
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0 Speed EV Zacian outspeeds max Speed Timid Mega Zygarde by one point.

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And when the two sword guys are together, Zygarde's just fucked because it can't do everything all at once.

cyan smelt
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power gem fucking gholdengo

stone trellis
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Specs.

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And it deals with Incin.

cyan smelt
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yeah i found that out

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now i'm gonna lose again fuck this gc

stone trellis
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It's fine, it's Bo1 CTS.

knotty mirage
stone trellis
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Don't blame yourself for losing to unexpected cheese, that's what the GC is all about.

stone trellis
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Good fucking luck with killing that guy.

cyan smelt
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i'm tired of this gc i want to quit

knotty mirage
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Yeah it seem's trying too mega evolve zygarde is too hard unless they allow zygarde just too mega evolve without needing to go 100% forme first on champions

cyan smelt
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3-5

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i need to win some games man

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every fucking team has mausape

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and they can bring it solo or with maus

cyan smelt
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it's mausape now i'm screwed

stone trellis
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Take a break.

cyan smelt
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i should just quit i'm not good at thisd

stone trellis
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That's not a suggestion, do something else until your nerves have calmed down and try to figure out a line into MausApe.

stone trellis
cyan smelt
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that's the problem, i don't have one, in testing i struggled into it too

knotty mirage
# stone trellis They won't.

There still possibility they allow something like mega rayquaza you know a mega who doesn't need too hold stone

stone trellis
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Yeah, but Mega Ray was never required to hold a Mega Stone in the games.

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Zygarde both needs the Mega Stone and the 100% forme in the game it's in.

knotty mirage
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Well champions is different from the mainline games

stone trellis
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They will probably keep the requirements the same.

cyan smelt
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i got my ass kicked

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i hate mausape

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3-6 now

stone trellis
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Again, take a break.

cyan smelt
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so i can come back later and get my ass whooped?

stone trellis
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Tilt queuing isn't good.

cyan smelt
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i'm gonna get dinner

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i hate mausape

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one more game

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i'm gonna lead sneasler rilla into mausape

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now it's sneasler psyspam yay i love this gc

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and the sneasler slept my smeargle

stone trellis
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Take a break, Kalos.

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If you continue playing with this mindset, you can only lose.

solid frigate
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and don't let mental illness get into your brain

stone trellis
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It's literally in his brain, what do you mean?

solid frigate
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What I mean is just don’t let something like Autism affecting your confidence and stuff

cyan smelt
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i fucking lost again fuck this gc

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3-7

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now it's a9 balance, oh joy

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can't buy a win

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drum beating rilla fml

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i'm done, again

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-8

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3-8

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i hate gcs

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feels like everyone has read me perfectly

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now it's a9 balance again with ape so i can't even bring incin

stone trellis
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For the love of God, take a break.

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I'm someone who's extremely prone to tilt laddering.

molten oasis
stone trellis
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Listen to me for once.

cyan smelt
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i'm just gonna quit entirely

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yeah everyone is just reading me perfectly

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i give up at competitive games

molten oasis
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Brother stop tilt queing and take a break

short quiver
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is the normalize ability good for anything whatsoever 💀

cyan smelt
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i've lost basically every single game

stone trellis
short quiver
molten oasis
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Like pixelate and aerilate are great abilities but

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Normalize just ain’t it

short quiver
#

why is normalize so much weaker

tiny karmaBOT
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Ability: Normalize

This Pokemon's moves are changed to be Normal type and have their power multiplied by 1.2. This effect comes before other effects that change a move's type.

stone trellis
#

No 20% boost.

#

Oh.

molten oasis
#

No it’s the fact moves change to normal

cyan smelt
#

i give up on this gc, too hard

molten oasis
#

Not that normal isn’t a bad offensive type

short quiver
molten oasis
#

But like, unless you’re blursa that’s kinda shit

cyan smelt
#

i'm taking a break to get dinner

molten oasis
#

You also always get walled by ghost types

solid frigate
#

Its just there’s not that much Pokémon that can optimise using Normalise

short quiver
molten oasis
#

The ability is like, okay

cyan smelt
#

feels like everyone is reading me perfectly and idk what to do i'm sure it's a skill issue

solid frigate
#

Playthroughs anything is fine

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 301: Delcatty
Type

Normal

Abilities

Cute Charm, Normalize, Wonder Skin (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

70/65/65/55/55/90

Total

400

short quiver
#

collect yourself, and try again later

molten oasis
#

Holy shit that Mon is awful lmfao

solid frigate
#

Yeah it’s bad

short quiver
#

its a gen 3 early game mon what do you expect

molten oasis
#

I knew it was bad but

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I didn’t think it was BST 400 lol

solid frigate
tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 277: Swellow
Types

Normal/Flying

Abilities

Guts, Scrappy (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/85/60/75/50/125

Total

455

solid frigate
#

Swellow is actually good on being a Guts Sweeper lol

molten oasis
#

Swellow’s only gimmick is fckn guts

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And it’s like okay at it Ursaluna exists

short quiver
# tiny karma

my favorite bird pokemon btw and i didnt even know it had guts lmao

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i had paul calc for me how much hp investment i need to capitalize on a flame orb

solid frigate
#

They literally used Para to show That Swellow has Guts in the anime

and I kinda hate that

cyan smelt
#

I'm taking a break but idk what to do honestly

molten oasis
#

Take a break

short quiver
#

anything but pokemon bruh

molten oasis
#

Recollect yourself, come back later OR just don’t play the game right now

short quiver
molten oasis
#

I think reg h is a hard format

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

And I also think the format sucks but, just take a break

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I think doing this GC would have broke me as well

short quiver
#

yeah im playing ORAS. my team is not winning any trophies 🥀

solid frigate
#

Same as me

I already broken myself in the last 2 gcs even tho I got positive results

molten oasis
#

I didn’t bother reg h just, I can’t find my footing in this format

stone trellis
#

I found it.

molten oasis
#

I never did like I played lots of a9 but never settled on a team I liked

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Now I play lots of Primarina Wolfe_Hello

short quiver
#

swellow delcatty mawile blaziken latias and i havent decided on mon 6 yet

short quiver
cyan smelt
#

With the team I mean

molten oasis
#

Primal kyogre water spout go brr

short quiver
#

mega mawile huge power go brr too

cyan smelt
#

I think I'm leading all wrong

molten oasis
stone trellis
molten oasis
#

Ursaluna?

short quiver
#

stomping tantrum?

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wait

#

what 😭

molten oasis
#

So it’s earthquake Ursaluna right?

short quiver
#

what electric types do i even have access to in ORAS

molten oasis
#

Only thing that makes sense to me lol

molten oasis
stone trellis
#

Count the boosts:
Garchomp EQ BP: 100
STAB: 1.5x (150)
Life Orb: 1.3x (195)
Tera Ground: 1.33x (260)
Helping Hand: 1.5x (390)

molten oasis
#

Or Raichu

short quiver
#

and thats it? plusle and minun are um, not good

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 311: Plusle
Type

Electric

Abilities

Plus, Lightning Rod (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/50/40/85/75/95

Total

405

molten oasis
stone trellis
cyan smelt
#

Honestly I think having a disability makes it really difficult to play competitive games

short quiver
molten oasis
#

Ohhh

#

You could do that too

stone trellis
tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 181: Ampharos
Type

Electric

Abilities

Static, Plus (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/75/85/115/90/55

Total

510

Other Formes

Ampharos-Mega

short quiver
#

I CANT GET A FUCKING AMPHAROS UNTIL POSTGAME?

molten oasis
#

That special attack is more respectable than I thought

short quiver
molten oasis
#

I’m aware it’s 165

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 181: Ampharos-Mega
Types

Electric/Dragon

Abilities

Mold Breaker

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/95/105/165/110/45

Total

610

Base Species

Ampharos

short quiver
#

i cant get a fucking ampharos until postgame. i should kms.

molten oasis
#

Why’d they give it mold breaker man c’mon

short quiver
molten oasis
#

Eeeeehhhhh

#

That’s so niche in competitive

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It’s had success for sure but it’s not that commonly used

short quiver
#

primal kyogre wants protection from electric right? so you use like raichu

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mega ampharos says fuck you

cyan smelt
#

I've stepped outside and am going to get dinner

molten oasis
stone trellis
#

252+ Atk Life Orb Tera Ground Garchomp Helping Hand Earthquake vs. 36 HP / 0 Def Ursaluna-Bloodmoon: 159-187 (82.3 - 96.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
It doesn't kill, but that is disgusting.

molten oasis
#

Sorry, mega slot

short quiver
#

yeah my mega is my mawile because thats my child

molten oasis
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I meant mega slot, it’s just, it’s not great

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It has no success either if you want a mega tr sweeper mawile is right there

short quiver
#

also mega mawile is fucking goated

molten oasis
#

The zacian before zacian cutezacian

stone trellis
short quiver
#

and now that it has the elemental punches i can cook some nasty shit with it

molten oasis
tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 901: Ursaluna-Bloodmoon
Types

Ground/Normal

Abilities

Mind's Eye

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

113/70/120/135/65/52

Total

555

Base Species

Ursaluna

stone trellis
#

130/105 is NOT better than 113/120.

tiny karmaBOT
#
Pokémon No. 901: Ursaluna
Types

Ground/Normal

Abilities

Guts, Bulletproof, Unnerve (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

130/140/105/45/80/50

Total

550

Other Formes

Ursaluna-Bloodmoon

molten oasis
#

I thought it was 120 my bad

molten oasis
#

Kinda curious since the hp’s higher

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By 17 points

short quiver
#

unfortunate that once champions comes around im gonna have to start using TR

stone trellis
#

252+ Atk Life Orb Tera Ground Garchomp Helping Hand Earthquake vs. 140 HP / 44 Def Ursaluna: 166-198 (74.4 - 88.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after burn damage

molten oasis
#

Not better you say?

stone trellis
#

I could've calced for 36 HP / 0 Def, but I'm lazy like that.

short quiver
stone trellis
#

252+ Atk Life Orb Tera Ground Garchomp Helping Hand Earthquake vs. 36 HP / 0 Def Ursaluna: 177-208 (84.2 - 99%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO after burn damage

molten oasis
#

That makes more sense

#

I didn’t notice the ev difference

stone trellis
#

And Weavile helps with that.

short quiver
#

i wanna use a weavile that sounds fun

#

a shame its chompy tho

cyan smelt
#

Jack had a weavile on one of his archaludon teams

molten oasis
#

What’s wrong with garchomp? He’s cool

short quiver
#

i dont like it 🤷‍♂️

molten oasis
#

Fair enough

short quiver
#

yk how stupid it is that i like slow pokemon but dont like TR

#

i like fucking Mawile Dragalge and Mudsdale but hate TR

molten oasis
#

Just not an archetype for everyone

short quiver
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but all my favorite mons are slow 😭

#

besides like basculegion ig

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and absolutely is kinda fast right?

cyan smelt
#

Alright I'm calm

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 359: Absol
Type

Dark

Abilities

Pressure, Super Luck, Justified (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

65/130/60/75/60/75

Total

465

Other Formes

Absol-Mega

short quiver
#

nevermind 😭

molten oasis
#

Wow

cyan smelt
#

I think that I've struggled with everything because it's all hyper offence

molten oasis
#

Piece of fucking paper and slow as hell

cyan smelt
#

Well or balance

short quiver
tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 359: Absol-Mega
Type

Dark

Abilities

Magic Bounce

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

65/150/60/115/60/115

Total

565

Base Species

Absol

short quiver
#

THATS fast

molten oasis
#

Dude mega absol wants a sash so fucking bad

#

65/60/60 is horrendous bulk

short quiver
#

gen 3 mon try not to have a bad stat distribution level impossible 😭

#

even the legendaries suffered ts

molten oasis
#

The restricteds no

cyan smelt
#

Me trying to not get tilted challenge, impossible

molten oasis
#

The latis are fine too

short quiver
#

bros built like paper

molten oasis
#

Yeah true rays only good in mega formats

tiny karmaBOT
#
Pokémon No. 382: Kyogre
Type

Water

Abilities

Drizzle

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/100/90/150/140/90

Total

670

Other Formes

Kyogre-Primal

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Pokémon No. 383: Groudon
Type

Ground

Abilities

Drought

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/150/140/100/90/90

Total

670

Other Formes

Groudon-Primal

short quiver
#

and as for the lati twins nah they’re just fine as they are

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 381: Latios
Types

Dragon/Psychic

Abilities

Levitate

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/90/80/130/110/110

Total

600

Other Formes

Latios-Mega

molten oasis
#

Regis are uhm, fine, I guess

short quiver
#

the regis got the eeveelution treatment

molten oasis
#

The original Regis

short quiver
#

yeah i know

molten oasis
#

Eleki and Drago are in their own boat lol

short quiver
#

the gen 3 regis got the eeveelution treatment

molten oasis
#

True they did

tiny karmaBOT
#
Pokémon No. 379: Registeel
Type

Steel

Abilities

Clear Body, Light Metal (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/75/150/75/150/50

Total

580

#
Pokémon No. 378: Regice
Type

Ice

Abilities

Clear Body, Ice Body (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/50/100/100/200/50

Total

580

#
Pokémon No. 377: Regirock
Type

Rock

Abilities

Clear Body, Sturdy (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/100/200/50/100/50

Total

580

short quiver
molten oasis
#

Registeel isn’t that bad cuz of body press but

#

The others are ass lmao

short quiver
#

and gigas is only relevant cuz of a poisonous floating ball

cyan smelt
#

Hmmm maybe I should give up on this gc and just try to build for reg f

short quiver
#

can i just say the world is luxky you dont play league of legends?

stone trellis
molten oasis
#

lol

short quiver
#

i mean a mega format is a restricted format isnt it?

molten oasis
#

No

#

Mega are just the gimmick of the gen

#

Restricted formats are end of gen formats where you get the big guns

short quiver
#

so there were mega formats without the restricteds

molten oasis
#

Yes

short quiver
#

👍🏻

stone trellis
#

2014 and 2015.

molten oasis
#

They just, were over shined by 2016 and wolfey lol

short quiver
#

i imagine also a year in USUM era

molten oasis
#

I think 2018 was a mega and z moves format yeah

stone trellis
#

Think so too.

#

Who won that year?

molten oasis
#

Not sure

stone trellis
#

Was it Hirofumi Kimura?

molten oasis
short quiver
#

i gotta see how good prime mega mawile was

stone trellis
#

It's won one regional.

#

That's about it as far as I can see.

#

You can give it its second win though.

short quiver
#

i plan to

#

now that i got the elemental punches i can do some nice stuff

#

what good tr sets did we even have in 2014

stone trellis
#

I wonder how I should EV the Gholdengo on my team.

stone trellis
short quiver
#

that would explain why mawile only has 1 win

stone trellis
#

It placed 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th at Worlds 2014.

#

That is some CHALK level shit.

short quiver
short quiver
stone trellis
#

It also made it to at least two regional finals.

#

CHALK = Cresselia, Heatran, Amoonguss, Landorus and (Mega) Kangaskhan.

short quiver
stone trellis
#

The team that placed (I think) 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 6th and 7th at Worlds 2015.

short quiver
#

what teams did they run in 2014

stone trellis
#

One second.

#

Apparently Sejun Park was the one who gave it its only regional win.

#

This is the team that placed 3rd at Worlds 2014.

short quiver
#

i dont see a trick room set unless its on aegislash

stone trellis
#

Most teams there didn't even use TR.

short quiver
#

50 base speed mawile 🥀

#

and its mega gains exactly 0 speed points

stone trellis
#

I'd love to give it an evolution and give the evolution a Mega instead.

#

What is Mawile's BST?

tiny karmaBOT
#
Pokémon No. 303: Mawile
Types

Steel/Fairy

Abilities

Hyper Cutter, Intimidate, Sheer Force (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

50/85/85/55/55/50

Total

380

Other Formes

Mawile-Mega

short quiver
#

terrible

stone trellis
#

Aight, let's give it an evo with a BST of 490 and give that a Mega.

solid frigate
#

<@&663761167176433665>

#

Huh so that’s where the bots come from

#

NFT Server huh

cyan smelt
#

great now i lost to tr whimsicott

#

i'm over this gc

#

3-9

#

fucking tr whimsicott

#

fml

#

everyone is fucking outplaying me

#

and now rillaboom crit grassy glide into gholdengo

solid frigate
#

You really don’t know how to stop your tracks when you are frustrated

cyan smelt
#

i took a break

solid frigate
#

That’s not that long

#

Hell last time I have to take around 12 hours to continue

cyan smelt
#

ffs now i'm losing to yawn ursaluna

solid frigate
#

That’s like a thing so bear with it

#

(Pun intended)

cyan smelt
#

i'm sick of this gc

#

3 fucking turns of sleep on ursaluna

#

i'm gonna quit

#

i blame mak for ever recommending smeargle

#

this is a fucking nightmare

real prairie
#

Breath bud

#

Take a break

cyan smelt
#

now i'm facing camerupt and meganium wtf

solid frigate
#

That stuff is easy

#

Just remember Camerupt is worse Torkoal and Meganium is Leech Seed stuff

cyan smelt
#

kommo-o is scary

solid frigate
cyan smelt
#

it was cc white herb

#

but i finally won

solid frigate
#

Bro is not cooking at all

cyan smelt
#

with hydro pump primarina

solid frigate
#

Single Target against Wide Guard

But for a Meta that spread moves are just two mons idk

waxen dock
cyan smelt
#

like 4-9, garbage

waxen dock
cyan smelt
#

smeargle, incin, rilla, sneasler, gholdengo, ursa bm

solid frigate
#

That A9 slot looks tasty here

waxen dock
#

Instead of a9

solid frigate
#

Also you kinda have to expect people have ways to beat Lele

cyan smelt
#

it's garbage

solid frigate
#

Spread?

cyan smelt
#

i'm gonna quit

solid frigate
#

Moveset?

cyan smelt
#

i can't fucking win

#

tera fairy dozo? ok then

#

was expecting grass

#

i won another game against indeedee sneasler murkrow

#

even when CC from sneasler crit incin

#

i'm gonna play randbats for a while to cool off

stone trellis
#

I still can't get over the fact that Chompy 2HKOs 196 Impish Dozo.

#

With a neutral attack.

cyan smelt
#

chomp is good

#

paul can you help me build for reg f

stone trellis
#

I don't know much about Reg F, but I'll try.

#

I need to learn at some point.

cyan smelt
#

i think my struggles are just i need to play better

stone trellis
#

236+ Atk Life Orb Tera Ground Garchomp Helping Hand Earthquake vs. 236 HP / 236+ Def Amoonguss: 221-263 (100.9 - 120%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Dear God.

#

That is actually disgusting.

cyan smelt
#

wait can i use enamorus in reg f

stone trellis
#

Yeah.

#

Tera Stellar + Contrary?

cyan smelt
#

idk how well that'd work with all the bolts and chien paos around

stone trellis
#

Fair.

waxen dock
#

Yes

cyan smelt
#

i don't think enamorus is viable

waxen dock
#

Im happy

stone trellis
#

Yeah, it's going to struggle.

stone trellis
cyan smelt
#

i'm not gonna play anymore gc tonight because i think i'm still tilted

waxen dock
#

Im in my 21 game

#

And im in a good position

stone trellis
#

I knew beforehand that Garchomp was stacking crazy damage multipliers, but it still feels off.

cyan smelt
#

but i did play really well against the indeedee murkrow sneasler incin team

stone trellis
waxen dock
#

Now 17-4

#

Guys im number 9

stone trellis
#

Sweet.

waxen dock
#

Hbu paul?

stone trellis
#

I haven't played a single match yet.

#

I've been at my grandma's house since 9 AM.

waxen dock
stone trellis
#

Masters for the challenge.

#

I'll get cooked, but it's fine.

waxen dock
#

Bro my opponent run sun ho

stone trellis
#

And?

waxen dock
#

A a very tricky mu for me

#

I used tera t 1

#

And he is using lorb deedee

#

Which also prolly means he is using sash whims

stone trellis
waxen dock
#

And he usd his tera

#

Now its gambling

#

He is scarf

#

Bro

#

Why is taatsu so frail

cyan smelt
#

the dozo team i played led meowscarada and tatsugiri and didn't switch out into dozo, idk what they were trying to accomplish

waxen dock
#

Yes

#

I now won game 22

#

It was very close

#

I almost loat if i hadnt oredicted his move

#

But im nimber 6 now

stone trellis
#

Imagine if you win.

#

Or get top 4.

#

The fuck do Bolt balance teams run most of the time?

waxen dock
#

Now im nimber 7

#

And 19-5

cyan smelt
#

i think i was just making bad plays

waxen dock
#

Bro why is it taking eternity to fimd a game?

stone trellis
waxen dock
#

It said "opponent cant be found" or something like that

#

I have 6 more games today

#

Thats what it says

#

Finaly

#

Another prrson

real prairie
#

That will do till later

waxen dock
#

Now im 20-5

#

Number 5

#

My opponent had a pult with no speed investment

#

Cuz my dozo outsped him

#

Im against the person who had tbolt arch

cyan smelt
#

Damn I wish I could do as well as you jack but I always seem to struggle with this stuff

#

Maybe I really am not cut out for this stuff

waxen dock
#

Nah

#

Stop hatinf urself

cyan smelt
#

I always feel like I'm at a disadvantage with my disabilities

waxen dock
#

It wont make you better

waxen dock
cyan smelt
#

I have autism and mental illness going on

#

But I do have to stop hating myself

waxen dock
#

Now im 21-5

#

Number 2

#

Number 1🥹

next stump
#

is there a regional today?

stone trellis
#

Nope.

#

There will be two regionals happening next weekend though.

foggy lodge
#

Las Vegas regional next weekend

#

And also Buenos Aires special event

stone trellis
#

I was working on a Reg F team and I came up with Lefties CM Bolt, Sash Chien-Pao, Safety Goggles Incin, Rocky Helmet Amoonguss and Scarf Shifu.

#

I would use Rillaboom, but I kinda don't like having four physical attackers and adding another Lando weakness.

#

There's something in my brain telling me to use AV Stamina Arch so I can wall PaoNite and then nuke both with Body Press.

waxen dock
stone trellis
#

Nice.

waxen dock
gentle cragBOT
stone trellis
waxen dock
#

did you play yesterday?

stone trellis
#

No.

waxen dock
stone trellis
#

Fuck.

#

But it's so good into Dragonite + Chien-Pao!

waxen dock
#

how?

#

most chien pao have sacred sword

stone trellis
#

They do?

#

I didn't even know that.

waxen dock
#

and the dnite can use his ground/fighting move

stone trellis
#

Whatever, go my annoying mushroom!

#

I still need to figure out my final slot.

dense latch
stone trellis
#

Fair.

#

Lorb Modest?

#

Scarf Timid is off the table due to Shifu.

dense latch
#

lorb works

#

i don’t know for sure whether timid or modest is most used just pick what you’d like more

stone trellis
#

What moves does Reg F Lando even use?

#

Does it still go Tera Poison?

dense latch
#

ep sludge bomb substitute protect

dense latch
stone trellis
#

236+ Atk Tera Water Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 180 HP / 4 Def Tera Poison Landorus on a critical hit: 156-186 (83.4 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
I'm fine with Poison, especially since I keep the Fighting resistance.

shadow wind
#

Wait does Bax exist again

#

Big fan of that guy

next stump
#

not in F from what I’ve seen so far

#

like you can play it but it’s pretty niche

foggy lodge
#

I remember it from this team

#

The one that got 2nd at Liverpool

chrome knot
#

someone get this guy some clown shoes🥺

charred saddle
stone trellis
#

I went 4-6 so far in the GC.

#

I suck at Reg H, man.

#

If someone forced me to play a game of Reg H well at gunpoint, my brain would be on the floor by the end of turn 1.

upper zealot
#

i think im 5-3 or something

#

kinda eh

#

i hate h

stone trellis
#

Far better than me.

#

Same, but it's the only format where I can make Garchomp work.

#

And I still haven't managed to actually make a good team.

shadow wind
molten oasis
#

Bax has a cool niche of being good into lando and bolt

waxen dock
#

Bro

#

Im still number 2 somehow

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I havent played in a few hours

stone trellis
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Should've stuck to Reg J.

stone trellis
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Holy shit, Oranguru has Telepathy.

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I could give it the Choice Scarf for Trick fuckery and using Instruct right after Chompy uses EQ.

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Nah, that's dumb.

thorn sierra
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in gen 7 did anybody use exeggutor like this

thorn sierra
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aside from trickroom or trick

empty saddle
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basic ass evs and could be optimised way more. but seems to counter everything thats been thrown at me so far

chrome knot
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how i love you psyspam mu😭

cyan smelt
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just beat tera fighting annihilape with azumarill and regular arcanine lol

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i basically spored their whole team

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smeargle is fun

cyan smelt
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Solo ape is fine but mausape is tough

stiff granite
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@charred saddle mewhishiny

gentle cragBOT
stiff granite
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tryna round up my mythicals before i completely forget KEKWCRY

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did you manage to get the ribbon? bc if not i should still prob yoink it back kekwhy

charred saddle
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im making referal case rn 😭

prob on monday/tuesday

stiff granite
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ohhh gg glgl

charred saddle
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i mean if u want me to still do it ill be able to do it soon (tuesday/wed), but doing assigment rn

and exam on monday

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if not ill trade it back yesyesyesyes

stiff granite
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lmk when you’re free and i can give it back to you but i kinda wanna hang onto it if that’s okay remyes

charred saddle
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oop just checked home, ive put the mew in scarlet

im nowhere near my switch since im away for the grad, ill be able to trade in around 10h from now

cyan smelt
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i hate psyspam

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i hate this gc

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i keep misplaying

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this is so frustrating

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i'm honestly bout to quit vgc with my experience in the gc

cyan smelt
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i hate weezing teams

waxen dock
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Im now number 6

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In gc

cyan smelt
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this gc is a disaster

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you know what fuck vgc

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competitive pokemon sucks

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buncha tryhard losers on gc

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i hate vgc after this

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i can't

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i'm getting outplayed every game

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and there's another loss

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all because i didn't tera gholdengo

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fml and fuck vgc

bold geode
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Unless you're in that age group, I wouldn't recommend that

waxen dock
bold geode
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Not a good idea

waxen dock
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Why?

bold geode
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Cuz if you're like let's say a masters age range for example, that's where you should be playing
They have the separation for a reason

waxen dock
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But you are right

upper zealot
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i just lost to hhp miss fuck

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lost so much elo

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at least i have 30 games left

cyan smelt
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all these teams are super optimised

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fml now i lost to tera bug arch

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i'm not playing well

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i'm sick of gc

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i will never play another gc again

molten oasis
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Brother take a break

cyan smelt
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what's the point, all i do is lose lose lose

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i'm a loser, that's all i am and ever will be

solid frigate
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Mf you keep on tilting while playing

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Of course it doesn’t help your mental health

cyan smelt
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i'm taking a break after that win

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randbats here i come

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randbats isn't as bad as gc i've learnt

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maybe i should try a different team idk

solid frigate
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That’s like the main reason why you are keep losing

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Home towards that one team and maximise how you can play it

cyan smelt
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it's a better ots team, gc is too random

bold geode
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CTS shouldn't 100% be a factor

cyan smelt
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i did decent at the regional, idk why i'm struggling now

stone trellis
waxen dock
cyan smelt
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i have a loser mentality and that's what holds me back in vgc and life

waxen dock
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Like 2-2-2 ho

cyan smelt
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i'm sticking with balance

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i can't just jump around to different types of teams every time i experience a setback

waxen dock
cyan smelt
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i need to learn how to play balance

waxen dock
stone trellis
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I had a fun match against a sun team with Kantotales.

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They were using Specs Zard, K9, Dnite and Hitmontop.

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Their +1 Kantotales lived a Blizzard from my A9 and Baton Passed the boosts on to their Charizard.

cyan smelt
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first i need to fix my mentality

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which i don't have the first clue about doing

stone trellis
cyan smelt
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don't use icy wind on malamar

stone trellis
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I forgot for a second, but it didn't matter.

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I still won because of how slow it was.

stone trellis
cyan smelt
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i give up on competitive pokemon man, even randbats is feeling too hard

waxen dock
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This guy makes very good guides on vgc

cyan smelt
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when even randbats is too difficult idk what else can help me tbh

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it's a mentality problem

solid frigate
cyan smelt
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I stopped trying because of poor self esteem

leaden comet
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Where do people check the evs and ivs and natures and stuff for pokemons used on vgc

leaden comet
gentle cragBOT
solid frigate
cyan smelt
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ok i took some time out and i feel better now

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i'm gonna watch the balance video

cyan smelt
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i see what i've been struggling with now, it's a piloting issue

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i should try fake out + nasty plot more

waxen dock
stone trellis
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?

cyan smelt
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fake out + nasty plot, then switch into a second fake out?

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it's hard to do double fake out when they have defiant

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can't even do fake out nasty plot into mausape

prime ledge
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i signed up for the lv regional, but i'm a beginner who only knows the basics like IVS/EVS, from slightly intermediate comp singles lol. any tips?