#competitive_discussion
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I think zygarde will exist but idk how good it’s gonna be
Stamina arch and annihilape give pressure because you can hit yourself and attack on the same turn
That's the problem with these strats, they rely too much on the opponent not doing anything turn 1.
Xerneas probably shits on it regardless of Nihil Light existing
Nah, it's one point slower.
Xerneas always shits on Zygarde as long as it doesn't mega
Okay Geomancy gg shake my hand

Xerneas is a disgusting Mon
Dude its very likely we have a format with teras and megas at the same time
Although if you ran crowbat you could haze it which is cool
I wonder how much Tera Dragon Pdon Dragon Claw would do to Mega Zygarde if we assume that the Primals can Tera.
You could use z moves and megas in sun and moon right
That sounds miserable
Like you could do a z move and then mega evolve another mon on the same match
There’s like two sides of whenever Zygarde’s Mega is good
And we are probably not in the broken side cuz how long you have to set up
I think megas and Tera’s is a bad idea
One gimmick per reg is fine
Tera if it’s Bo1
Tera is good in Bo3
That sounds miserable to play in
Tera still forces 50/50s in bo3
Also primals shouldn’t get access to Tera
Do i fake out the tera ghost mon or not
It’s still a mega
Nah megas won't be able to tera
The dogs got access to it.
Yeah stuff like this sucks
Fairy/Steel
Intrepid Sword
92/150/115/80/115/148
700
Zacian
Ground/Fire
Desolate Land
100/180/160/150/90/90
770
Groudon
It fucking shouldn’t otherwise we are dealing with Mega Ray with Tera Normal espeed
Its manageable but the game does have 50/50s you still have to respect
This is a restricted after the form change
With both megas AND tera the 50/50s increase even more
Or worse yet, Tera Flying DA.
This is always a restricted
It is always a restricted.
Groudon gets eruption btw
No zacian before form change is dogshit
So is Groudon before it changes form nowadays.
Groudon is good in both forms Zac can only do that form
Wait it does get eruption right I am not crazy
Yes it does
It does, yeah.
Yeah I remember losing to Jumpluff eruption Groudon one time LOL
But also groudon has 770 BST while Zac only has 700 BST
They are both item-only forms of restricted legendaries that change their typing and make their base forms completely irrelevant.
And zacian is in that form regardless of the turn
So is Primal Groudon.
Groudon and kyogre turn into those forms when they enter the field for the first time, it’s not the default form
Eh, ig the dogs do too
oh Ray can do that too then
Mega Rayquaza is way more broken than Mega Zygarde
And hates zacian and chien pao
Wow Zac pao might pop tf off lmao
Probably with kyogre
Mega Zygarde is just the bait for everyone to forget about Mega Rayquaza
Nihil light is still crazy broken of a move tho
And it can hold loaded dice
Idk about that
It can be a scale shot sweeper
Dragon ascent already lowers defense youre gonna be a piece of paper
Why would you not just play clam?
Or maybe you just run sash
Or sash yeah
Dragon/Flying
Delta Stream
105/180/100/180/100/115
780
Rayquaza
Dragon/Flying
Delta Stream
105/180/100/180/100/115
780
Rayquaza
It’s bulky, I guess
Yeah it was fast in the old times
Oh it outspeeds ogerpon
Mega zygarde is not a good mon. Dont compsre him to my goat mega ray
Dont you hsve to be weak to mega him? I forget how power construct works
Yeah it has to get to 50% HP
And then it transforms
And just the next turn you can mega evolve
he can only mega evolve once he loses 50% of his hp iirc
The mega itself is good but the initial setup is just not worth it in VGC
Yeah its not a good mon if you have to be weak to mega evo
pretty much
especially when there is chien pao
cuz it can just ohko it, there is also miraidon who counters it
The Special Attacker Restricteds debate is just who is better
Xerneas vs Miraidon (not counting Kyogre cuz Kyogre would be one of the best Restricteds anyways just because of Primal)

Get a fucking pill cutter girl
I just lost a reg h scrim by getting dbl frozen and then i missed my pop bomb after thawing out😭😭😭
Reg H best regulation of SV they said
I still don't get why anybody would prefer H over I.
I hate double restricted personally
it overcentralized the meta too much and made every comp much more locked on what they can run
I don't know, man.
It's been a fun format for me so far.
I guess I thrive in high-power formats.
Said who now?
Says the person who didn't get one the first ten times 
blaaaaaaa
i had my fun with reg h
but reg f came at a great time im starting to really like it
Reg hell
https://x.com/wellspringmask/status/1986258224979296358?s=46
speaking of reg h
one day my ninetales will lock in like this
Real
I don't have Twitter, what did A9 do?
Froze and encore disabled in a position it should have lost
3 freezes + ko on tastu before running out of blizzard pp
had to wait like 10 turns for gambit to thaw out so it would die to encore disable struggle
Almost as GOATed as Ogerpon living that Astral Barrage.
Real
I will forever remember that shit.
Living a CSR Astral Barrage is great, but living at 1 HP is so much more fun.
(Even though I only had a 37,5% chance of dying that turn)
It's gonna be funny if mega zygarde ends up being unpopular because of power construct
I can imagine the timeline where because people just don't want to attack zygarde because of the risk of triggering 100% form + mega teams just start running self proc zygarde
Moves calculated to deal 51%
Has a 10% chance to freeze the target. If the weather is Snow, this move does not check accuracy.
Ice
Special
110
70
5 (8)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Does not make contact.
Triggers Wind Power and Wind Rider.
hello!! i am building a team for myself this reg F and im wondering if incin-rilla-ursh-torn-fluttermane-ragingbolt would work? ive played a few games went 5-3 on showdown and idk raging bolt feels rlly awkward to play. might not j fit my playstyle ig but i find myself running ursh torn as lead like 90% of the time (i like either fast tailwind or tailroom)
incin has the rocky helmet
rilla has AV
ursh has sash
torn has covert cloak
flutter has specs with defense investment
RB has booster spatk
could i have suggestions? my incin and rilla were taken from my reg H teams so maybe their evs arent the best
do you have a paste? to see moves and evs
if you dont want bolt lando could be an option
Any showdown players awake
When does gc start
Half hour ago I thought
Good luck to anyone competing
How do gems work with multi hit moves? (Water Gem Surging Strikes)
is water gem an item anymore
nope, but my local group was discussing about generational gimmicks and I was wondering how that would work
Well how does normal gem work with population bomb
I can imagine what the answer is myself but that's what they're asking
Just so fun to probably lose a game cuz you missed scale shot
This game is something else
Just so fun
Ot at least i won this game
But only cuz my opponent played bad
And somehow im now 2-0
Now 5-1
If i finish this day above 1600 i will be happy
That could be the case tbh like you need too hold mega stone and also wait your zygarde untill it get half health to mega evolve
At that point it would prolly just okhod by dynamax chien pao
Where can I find a build for dragonite that's recent? Pikalytics only has usage % but not builds.
https://www.smogon.com/dex/sv/pokemon/dragonite/vgc/
Is this build recent?
I have seen a Tera Normal Extremespeed Max Attack Dnite with Multiscale ability.
Moves are Protect, Extremespeed, Outrage and Ice Spinner
Clear Amulet as the held item. Im guessing some Speed ev investments along with minimal bulk in HP
Just depends if for Doubles or singles
doubles
The thing is Dragonite is soooo versatile with moves that you can even go a bulky set with Roost and Dragon Dance set up but I wouldnt recommend it unless you got support mons to back it up. Im used to using Dnite as a physical sweeper.
I personally would run either one of these two if you are an offensive user.
-
Multiscale ability with Clear Amulet (Tera Normal)
-Extreme speed
-Protect
-Outrage
-Iron Head or Ice Spinner
252 Attack and 252 Speed and 4 HP -
Multiscale ability with Loaded Dice (Tera Normal or Steel for defensive purposes or Ghost to avoid Fake Outs)
-Scale Shot
-Extreme speed
-Protect
-Stomping Tantrum or Iron Head
252 Atk/252 Speed/4Def
What other pokes do I use with Dragonite?
Chien Pao is a great one to further boost damage. We call it Pao-Nite. Amoonguss is good too as it can redirect hits going into Dnite and lastly maybe Grimmsnarl for more support with screens and all. Maybe any Fake out user like Incin.
If Im you, I would start a team build like this:
-Dnite
-Chien Pao
-Incineroar
-Amoonguss
-Flutter Mane
-Girafarig or Gholdengo
Assuming this is for Reg F.
Im working on a Sand Team
Ahhh, so tyranitar garchomp duo?
Got all of those so I can start working on it
Is there a set I can find?
So I can ev train them properly, moves etc
Something like that haha
I would go max attack and max speed on both chien pao and dragonite. Flutter mane max sp atk and max speed. Round off all 3 with HP or Defense.
Amoonguss and Incineroar are tricky so you would have to play around with that but usually max HP on both. The rest spread out with Sp Def, Def and for Incin maybe slight bit of speed or atk but up to you.
thanks
now 5-2
munchstats is a more updated website
Finally someone has good sets for the mons
Outside of EVs can be further Optimised
And Urshifu likes Aqua Jet over U-turn in Sash Sets,but that’s just my Preference
i feel like i don’t have enough ways to hit rilla so i like u turn, but jet def also works
what changes dya think? and which mons do u think can be swapped? idk if its a skill issue but im struggling on showdown rn and bolt doesnt feel too good
the bolt set is a bit counterintuitive
on a calm mind set you don’t want draco to reset your spatk boosts, and you want protect to heal between turns + keeping it safe
calm mind bolt usually does dragon pulse thunderclap calm mind protect
Incin could lower some of the attack in favour of bulk and Safety goggles is Available so do that+Tera Ghost
Overall besides Bolt and Incin need some changes I would say you definitely tried your best
no need for rocky?
ok, my opponent had a diss, and i thought, oh no i had a this what am i going to do now?, and it turns out my opponent had a diss and i was like, phew
now im 12-3 with 1604 elo
Rocky is aight but you already have Bolt for Urshifu
@molten oasis 6 7
dollarmonke has given 1 Gen Rep to drayagedrago
why 67?
It's an internet meme, it means literally nothing though
My pokemon home became japanese
Will probably patch up after i reopen the up
For some reason it doeant show the grand challenge
And it patched up
HOW THE FUCK THAT IS A REP
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between PaulGoodman777 and StarAlphiita! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2025 Reg J; Date: Nov 7, 2025
The Rayquaza + Minecraft YouTubers' favorite material duo is cracked sometimes.
Is AV Jolly Chien-Pao a thing?
Paul U told me U weren't good at battling
aighty
yea amoonguss gave me some issues icl
gotcha gotcha
do i have any big weaknesses rn?
But you're 1500 in reg j
I use a good team.
Quite frankly, a blind infant could get a 75% GXE with that shit if they know how to use it.
WHAT THE HELL
Type shi
Two of the craziest inputs happened at the same time damn
Did the person also have Sludge Bomb Amoonguss with Mental Herb?
won my first game, does it still count if they ragequit
I was asking to see if it was Wolfey.
I also made a water glass balance perfectly for no reason.
A9 Balance this, Raging Bolt balance that, try balancing that shit on accident.
Baxcalibur is a cool guy that I actually think is solid anti meta atm
@half garden you released my Mew right
Who can help me come up with builds for these mons?
Blacephalon-special sweeper
mega rayquaxa-physical sweeper
giritina-annoying wall
rotom oven-special tank, pivot
Lugia- special wall
ferrothorn- defensive wall and rocks setter
if u have a good build for these mons, dm me it. ty
Who can help me come up with builds for these mons?
Blacephalon-special sweeper
mega rayquaxa-physical sweeper
giritina-annoying wall
rotom oven-special tank, pivot
Lugia- special wall
ferrothorn- defensive wall and rocks setter
hey brother please dont spam the chat
ok
I have access to mega, z moves and terra. Who can help me come up with builds for these mons?
Blacephalon-special sweeper
mega rayquaxa-physical sweeper
giritina-annoying wall
rotom oven-special tank, pivot
Lugia- special wall
ferrothorn- defensive wall and rocks setter
lmao
this looks like an insanely niche format so no one knows much about how it’s gonna work
spamming the chat isn’t helping your chances of getting feedback either lol
That's just a showdown team. Or an USUM. Forgot if there's megas in that. But honestly, going into multiple channels spamming just annoys people
the tera bit is what weirds me out i guess it’s nat dex?
Welp, scratch USUM. They mention Tera. Sooo, showdown team maybe 
Or Champions when it comes out
fr
if no one answers is not because we don't want to help is cuz we have no idea of what to do😭
yk how you want a mons hp to end in a 9 for lorb?
is there anything similar for a mon with a flame orb?
erik answered is he no one?
but yea no regular format is that gna be allowed u have 3 restricteds there and bad ones at that
uhhh probably
do i know what the optimal number would be? no
thats very helpful, thank you 🫠
isnt it 1/16th
and then factor that in the same way u do for life orb giving urself as much extra ticks as possible
should be yea
Yeah
@dense latch who are you 🖕 /j
shit now you got me thinking 😭
maybe?
do either of you have an answer to my question?
and i lost to 1400 guy
cuz this person had literly quick claw snorlax
thats just so annoying
that i lose to shit like this cuz he got some luck
with quick claw
who agrees with me?
im just so annoyind cuz i lost to a guy using some cheesey team with so much rng dependent
my favorite kind of team
bro stfu i lost so much elo cuz this person got lucky the turn he needed to
its that my opponent got lucky the turn he needed
so a skill issue
its rng based cheese
if it was normal cheese i think i would have deserved to lose
and noy my oppopnent got a crit
its just lucky kids, notihng else
this i s the gc, lucky kids that sabotage comopeteitors players to get cp
ok at least this game i barerly won
but thats just so annoying to lose to little kids runing the most rng based cheese
while they get lucky and his quick claw decide to activate exactly on the turn most important
at least it's not quick claw quick draw slowbro
no
but i lost 25 elo for this shit
its just some kid who got lucky =on the right turn
can't win every game
yeah but i also cant lose every game cuz someone run a cheese team
do you understand me?
i think you do
idk what to tell you, there's lots of cheese in the gc
and i got a burn that didnt matter on my opponent
but if it is a level where i lose to it its just something else
that proves there is a problem in the game
at least it ain't as bad as randbats
its even worse than rand bats
at least i won this game now
now 15-4
i need to play, i've only played 1 game so far
at least you didnt lose to some kid using quick claw snorlax and getting quick claw in the turn he needed to
without this lose i would be on 1650 elo already
nopw im only 1628
what's the most common pokemon you've seen
besides like incin
this meta is fun, it's just make it rain, parting shot, fake out, scale shot, shadow ball, earth power
rage fist
electro shot etc
grimmsnarl is trash in the current meta isn't it
i understand tera electric on blursa now, resists hurricane, make it rain and electro shot
Morning folks, doing some testing for reg F, I just want to check an interaction
If a prankster pokemon uses haze, would a dark type be affected? Wondering as haze doesn't actively target a mon
haze affects the field, it doesn't target any specific pokemon so dark types would be affected
Perfect, thought that would be the case, thank you!
unscsnip3r_1997 has given 1 Gen Rep to kal0sunleashed
yw
How are you doing in the gc?
Above 1500?
got exam real soon, after that ill get it done 
My kiddo been participating in the GC for the first time, doing ok
oh fuck it's mausape
He got matched up once with one of the worlds kids he played at regionals 
if he leads anything other than mausape i'm screwed because i picked rilla sneasler
and this one read me too
ill battle ur kiddo like a pokemon trainer
Ok
goddamn both gholdengo and annihilape outsped smeargle
well 1-2 so far isn't great
that must have been specs gholdengo
now i got rilla and indeedee
and coalossal
breaking swipe dragapult
with sash ffs
i'm done, i lost again
Im 16-4 and i want to do like 35-10
this gc is too hard man
i'm 1-3
Something like that
i can't deal with this shit
i hope i can improve soon
embarrassing to lose to fucking coalossal
Do 11-4
Last reg h tour
vgc is too difficult man especially for someone with my disabilities
ok yay i won one
2-3 now
ofc the gastrodon is tera grass
Disabilities?
Oh.
makes games that require a lot of thinking really tough
I have question is mega zygarde could be broken on VGC or is it just overhyped ?
well i lost because i didn't predict a tera poison on prim
3-4
i feel so slow mentally
Chien-Pao and Zacian.
0 Speed EV Zacian outspeeds max Speed Timid Mega Zygarde by one point.
And when the two sword guys are together, Zygarde's just fucked because it can't do everything all at once.
power gem fucking gholdengo
It's fine, it's Bo1 CTS.
So it's overhyped okay then
Don't blame yourself for losing to unexpected cheese, that's what the GC is all about.
Let alone CIR.
Good fucking luck with killing that guy.
i'm tired of this gc i want to quit
Yeah it seem's trying too mega evolve zygarde is too hard unless they allow zygarde just too mega evolve without needing to go 100% forme first on champions
3-5
i need to win some games man
every fucking team has mausape
and they can bring it solo or with maus
They won't.
it's mausape now i'm screwed
Take a break.
i should just quit i'm not good at thisd
That's not a suggestion, do something else until your nerves have calmed down and try to figure out a line into MausApe.
None of us are, that's exactly why we play.
that's the problem, i don't have one, in testing i struggled into it too
There still possibility they allow something like mega rayquaza you know a mega who doesn't need too hold stone
Yeah, but Mega Ray was never required to hold a Mega Stone in the games.
Zygarde both needs the Mega Stone and the 100% forme in the game it's in.
Well champions is different from the mainline games
They will probably keep the requirements the same.
Again, take a break.
so i can come back later and get my ass whooped?
Tilt queuing isn't good.
i'm gonna get dinner
i hate mausape
one more game
i'm gonna lead sneasler rilla into mausape
now it's sneasler psyspam yay i love this gc
and the sneasler slept my smeargle
Take a break, Kalos.
If you continue playing with this mindset, you can only lose.
and don't let mental illness get into your brain
It's literally in his brain, what do you mean?
What I mean is just don’t let something like Autism affecting your confidence and stuff
i fucking lost again fuck this gc
3-7
now it's a9 balance, oh joy
can't buy a win
drum beating rilla fml
i'm done, again
-8
3-8
i hate gcs
feels like everyone has read me perfectly
now it's a9 balance again with ape so i can't even bring incin
For the love of God, take a break.
I'm someone who's extremely prone to tilt laddering.

Listen to me for once.
i'm just gonna quit entirely
yeah everyone is just reading me perfectly
i give up at competitive games
Brother stop tilt queing and take a break
is the normalize ability good for anything whatsoever 💀
i've lost basically every single game
Nope
Nah, not really.
i didnt think so
why is normalize so much weaker
This Pokemon's moves are changed to be Normal type and have their power multiplied by 1.2. This effect comes before other effects that change a move's type.
No it’s the fact moves change to normal
i give up on this gc, too hard
Not that normal isn’t a bad offensive type
TAKE A MF BREAK BRO
But like, unless you’re blursa that’s kinda shit
i'm taking a break to get dinner
You also always get walled by ghost types
Its just there’s not that much Pokémon that can optimise using Normalise
im asking cuz my skitty has it in my ORAS playthrough
The ability is like, okay
feels like everyone is reading me perfectly and idk what to do i'm sure it's a skill issue
Playthroughs anything is fine
you need to take a break
Normal
Cute Charm, Normalize, Wonder Skin (Hidden)
70/65/65/55/55/90
400
collect yourself, and try again later
Holy shit that Mon is awful lmfao
Yeah it’s bad
its a gen 3 early game mon what do you expect
Swellow:
Normal/Flying
Guts, Scrappy (Hidden)
60/85/60/75/50/125
455
Swellow is actually good on being a Guts Sweeper lol
my favorite bird pokemon btw and i didnt even know it had guts lmao
i had paul calc for me how much hp investment i need to capitalize on a flame orb
They literally used Para to show That Swellow has Guts in the anime
and I kinda hate that
I'm taking a break but idk what to do honestly
Take a break
anything but pokemon bruh
Recollect yourself, come back later OR just don’t play the game right now
you expect me to pay attenttion to little stuff like that
I think reg h is a hard format
And I also think the format sucks but, just take a break
I think doing this GC would have broke me as well
yeah im playing ORAS. my team is not winning any trophies 🥀
Same as me
I already broken myself in the last 2 gcs even tho I got positive results
I didn’t bother reg h just, I can’t find my footing in this format
I found it.
I never did like I played lots of a9 but never settled on a team I liked
Now I play lots of Primarina 
swellow delcatty mawile blaziken latias and i havent decided on mon 6 yet
The primals?
i mean i could, but what fun is that
With the team I mean
Primal kyogre water spout go brr
mega mawile huge power go brr too
I think I'm leading all wrong

It's called 390 BP spread Ground type move.
So it’s earthquake Ursaluna right?
what electric types do i even have access to in ORAS
Only thing that makes sense to me lol
Manectric.
Count the boosts:
Garchomp EQ BP: 100
STAB: 1.5x (150)
Life Orb: 1.3x (195)
Tera Ground: 1.33x (260)
Helping Hand: 1.5x (390)
Or Raichu
Ah lol
and thats it? plusle and minun are um, not good
Electric
Plus, Lightning Rod (Hidden)
60/50/40/85/75/95
405
Pretty sure the electric list on average for most games is shit
It's also Adamant because I didn't already kill everyone who wasn't hit for resisted.
Honestly I think having a disability makes it really difficult to play competitive games
Ampharos is in gen 3 too
It might be capable of killing BM after Helping Hand.
Electric
Static, Plus (Hidden)
90/75/85/115/90/55
510
Ampharos-Mega
I CANT GET A FUCKING AMPHAROS UNTIL POSTGAME?
That special attack is more respectable than I thought
check out the mega
I’m aware it’s 165
Electric/Dragon
Mold Breaker
90/95/105/165/110/45
610
Ampharos
i cant get a fucking ampharos until postgame. i should kms.
Why’d they give it mold breaker man c’mon
lightning rod
Eeeeehhhhh
That’s so niche in competitive
It’s had success for sure but it’s not that commonly used
primal kyogre wants protection from electric right? so you use like raichu
mega ampharos says fuck you
I've stepped outside and am going to get dinner
Well yeah but ampharos is kinda all offensive and wastes your defensive slot
252+ Atk Life Orb Tera Ground Garchomp Helping Hand Earthquake vs. 36 HP / 0 Def Ursaluna-Bloodmoon: 159-187 (82.3 - 96.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
It doesn't kill, but that is disgusting.
Sorry, mega slot
its defenses arent bad 🙁
yeah my mega is my mawile because thats my child
I meant mega slot, it’s just, it’s not great
It has no success either if you want a mega tr sweeper mawile is right there
also mega mawile is fucking goated
The zacian before zacian 
Are there any other Pokemon who don't resist Ground and have better physical bulk than BM?
and now that it has the elemental punches i can cook some nasty shit with it
If not, everyone's in range.
I’m like 90% sure normal Ursa has better physical bulk
Ground/Normal
Mind's Eye
113/70/120/135/65/52
555
Ursaluna
130/105 is NOT better than 113/120.
Ground/Normal
Guts, Bulletproof, Unnerve (Hidden)
130/140/105/45/80/50
550
Ursaluna-Bloodmoon
I thought it was 120 my bad
I’d check the calc anyway
Kinda curious since the hp’s higher
By 17 points
unfortunate that once champions comes around im gonna have to start using TR
252+ Atk Life Orb Tera Ground Garchomp Helping Hand Earthquake vs. 140 HP / 44 Def Ursaluna: 166-198 (74.4 - 88.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after burn damage
Not better you say?
I could've calced for 36 HP / 0 Def, but I'm lazy like that.
he used different evs
252+ Atk Life Orb Tera Ground Garchomp Helping Hand Earthquake vs. 36 HP / 0 Def Ursaluna: 177-208 (84.2 - 99%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO after burn damage
So everybody is in range.
And Weavile helps with that.
Jack had a weavile on one of his archaludon teams
What’s wrong with garchomp? He’s cool
i dont like it 🤷♂️
Fair enough
yk how stupid it is that i like slow pokemon but dont like TR
i like fucking Mawile Dragalge and Mudsdale but hate TR
Just not an archetype for everyone
but all my favorite mons are slow 😭
besides like basculegion ig
and absolutely is kinda fast right?
Alright I'm calm
Dark
Pressure, Super Luck, Justified (Hidden)
65/130/60/75/60/75
465
Absol-Mega
nevermind 😭
Wow
I think that I've struggled with everything because it's all hyper offence
Piece of fucking paper and slow as hell
Well or balance
what absol?
Dark
Magic Bounce
65/150/60/115/60/115
565
Absol
THATS fast
Yea
Dude mega absol wants a sash so fucking bad
65/60/60 is horrendous bulk
gen 3 mon try not to have a bad stat distribution level impossible 😭
even the legendaries suffered ts
The restricteds no
Me trying to not get tilted challenge, impossible
The latis are fine too
have you seen rayrays stats 😭
bros built like paper
Yeah true rays only good in mega formats
Water
Drizzle
100/100/90/150/140/90
670
Kyogre-Primal
Ground
Drought
100/150/140/100/90/90
670
Groudon-Primal
and as for the lati twins nah they’re just fine as they are
Dragon/Psychic
Levitate
80/90/80/130/110/110
600
Latios-Mega
Regis are uhm, fine, I guess
no comment
the regis got the eeveelution treatment
The original Regis
yeah i know
Eleki and Drago are in their own boat lol
the gen 3 regis got the eeveelution treatment
True they did
Steel
Clear Body, Light Metal (Hidden)
80/75/150/75/150/50
580
Ice
Clear Body, Ice Body (Hidden)
80/50/100/100/200/50
580
Rock
Clear Body, Sturdy (Hidden)
80/100/200/50/100/50
580
like bro what the fuck is this
and gigas is only relevant cuz of a poisonous floating ball
Hmmm maybe I should give up on this gc and just try to build for reg f
can i just say the world is luxky you dont play league of legends?
For some reason my brain autocorrected this to "restricted formats" and I was about to have a heart attack.
lol
i mean a mega format is a restricted format isnt it?
No
Mega are just the gimmick of the gen
Restricted formats are end of gen formats where you get the big guns
so there were mega formats without the restricteds
Yes
👍🏻
2014 and 2015.
They just, were over shined by 2016 and wolfey lol
i imagine also a year in USUM era
I think 2018 was a mega and z moves format yeah
Not sure
Was it Hirofumi Kimura?

i gotta see how good prime mega mawile was
It's won one regional.
That's about it as far as I can see.
You can give it its second win though.
i plan to
now that i got the elemental punches i can do some nice stuff
what good tr sets did we even have in 2014
I wonder how I should EV the Gholdengo on my team.
I don't know about 2014, but 2015 has Cresselia.
that would explain why mawile only has 1 win
It placed 3rd, 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th at Worlds 2014.
That is some CHALK level shit.
HELL YEAH
some what?
It also made it to at least two regional finals.
CHALK = Cresselia, Heatran, Amoonguss, Landorus and (Mega) Kangaskhan.

The team that placed (I think) 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 5th, 6th and 7th at Worlds 2015.
what teams did they run in 2014
One second.
Apparently Sejun Park was the one who gave it its only regional win.
This is the team that placed 3rd at Worlds 2014.
i dont see a trick room set unless its on aegislash
Most teams there didn't even use TR.
I'd love to give it an evolution and give the evolution a Mega instead.
What is Mawile's BST?
Steel/Fairy
Hyper Cutter, Intimidate, Sheer Force (Hidden)
50/85/85/55/55/50
380
Mawile-Mega
terrible
Aight, let's give it an evo with a BST of 490 and give that a Mega.
great now i lost to tr whimsicott
i'm over this gc
3-9
fucking tr whimsicott
fml
everyone is fucking outplaying me
and now rillaboom crit grassy glide into gholdengo
You really don’t know how to stop your tracks when you are frustrated
i took a break
ffs now i'm losing to yawn ursaluna
i'm sick of this gc
3 fucking turns of sleep on ursaluna
i'm gonna quit
i blame mak for ever recommending smeargle
this is a fucking nightmare
now i'm facing camerupt and meganium wtf
That stuff is easy
Just remember Camerupt is worse Torkoal and Meganium is Leech Seed stuff
kommo-o is scary
You mean which version
Bro is not cooking at all
with hydro pump primarina
Single Target against Wide Guard
But for a Meta that spread moves are just two mons idk
So how are you now?
like 4-9, garbage
Whats your team?
smeargle, incin, rilla, sneasler, gholdengo, ursa bm
That A9 slot looks tasty here
So lele with smeargle
Instead of a9
Also you kinda have to expect people have ways to beat Lele
it's garbage
Spread?
i'm gonna quit
Moveset?
i can't fucking win
tera fairy dozo? ok then
was expecting grass
i won another game against indeedee sneasler murkrow
even when CC from sneasler crit incin
i'm gonna play randbats for a while to cool off
I still can't get over the fact that Chompy 2HKOs 196 Impish Dozo.
With a neutral attack.
i think my struggles are just i need to play better
236+ Atk Life Orb Tera Ground Garchomp Helping Hand Earthquake vs. 236 HP / 236+ Def Amoonguss: 221-263 (100.9 - 120%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Dear God.
That is actually disgusting.
wait can i use enamorus in reg f
idk how well that'd work with all the bolts and chien paos around
Fair.
Yes
i don't think enamorus is viable
Im happy
Yeah, it's going to struggle.
I still cannot comprehend this damage calc.
i'm not gonna play anymore gc tonight because i think i'm still tilted
I knew beforehand that Garchomp was stacking crazy damage multipliers, but it still feels off.
but i did play really well against the indeedee murkrow sneasler incin team
So let's focus on building.
Sweet.
Hbu paul?
Did you register for seniors or masters?
Bro my opponent run sun ho
And?
A a very tricky mu for me
I used tera t 1
And he is using lorb deedee
Which also prolly means he is using sash whims
the dozo team i played led meowscarada and tatsugiri and didn't switch out into dozo, idk what they were trying to accomplish
Yes
I now won game 22
It was very close
I almost loat if i hadnt oredicted his move
But im nimber 6 now
Imagine if you win.
Or get top 4.
The fuck do Bolt balance teams run most of the time?
I lost the game then but the one after this i have just won
Now im nimber 7
And 19-5
i think i was just making bad plays
You are in masters so its harder to win
Bro why is it taking eternity to fimd a game?
I need help with this.
It said "opponent cant be found" or something like that
I have 6 more games today
Thats what it says
Finaly
Another prrson
That will do till later
Now im 20-5
Number 5
My opponent had a pult with no speed investment
Cuz my dozo outsped him
Im against the person who had tbolt arch
Damn I wish I could do as well as you jack but I always seem to struggle with this stuff
Maybe I really am not cut out for this stuff
I always feel like I'm at a disadvantage with my disabilities
It wont make you better
Wdym disabilities
Nice
Now im 21-5
Number 2
Number 1🥹
is there a regional today?
I was working on a Reg F team and I came up with Lefties CM Bolt, Sash Chien-Pao, Safety Goggles Incin, Rocky Helmet Amoonguss and Scarf Shifu.
I would use Rillaboom, but I kinda don't like having four physical attackers and adding another Lando weakness.
There's something in my brain telling me to use AV Stamina Arch so I can wall PaoNite and then nuke both with Body Press.
with 22-5
Nice.
thanks
ido1500 has given 1 Gen Rep to skywarsveteran1607
Is Arch even good in Reg F outside of rain?
did you play yesterday?
No.
hmm no
and the dnite can use his ground/fighting move
This is what I have so far.
lando i is pretty safe
lorb works
i don’t know for sure whether timid or modest is most used just pick what you’d like more
ep sludge bomb substitute protect
that or steel
236+ Atk Tera Water Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 180 HP / 4 Def Tera Poison Landorus on a critical hit: 156-186 (83.4 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
I'm fine with Poison, especially since I keep the Fighting resistance.
hope it went well 
Real gamblers only use sandseer storm
Wait does Bax exist again
Big fan of that guy
A bit
I remember it from this team
The one that got 2nd at Liverpool
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someone get this guy some clown shoes🥺
just had my graduation for my pre med rotation as well so alls good
I went 4-6 so far in the GC.
I suck at Reg H, man.
If someone forced me to play a game of Reg H well at gunpoint, my brain would be on the floor by the end of turn 1.
Far better than me.
Same, but it's the only format where I can make Garchomp work.
And I still haven't managed to actually make a good team.
Glaive rush + ice shard is truly despicable
Bax has a cool niche of being good into lando and bolt
Holy shit congrats
I went 4-6, I'm cooked.
Should've stuck to Reg J.
Holy shit, Oranguru has Telepathy.
I could give it the Choice Scarf for Trick fuckery and using Instruct right after Chompy uses EQ.
Nah, that's dumb.
ngl what does oranguru even wanna click other than instruct most of the time, scarf oranguru could be a thing
aside from trickroom or trick
https://pokepast.es/8b5307a9cc912707 having a lot of fun laddering reg f with this team. 10-0, granted starting from 1000 elo
basic ass evs and could be optimised way more. but seems to counter everything thats been thrown at me so far
how i love you psyspam mu😭
Pog
just beat tera fighting annihilape with azumarill and regular arcanine lol
i basically spored their whole team
smeargle is fun
Solo ape is fine but mausape is tough
@charred saddle 
abused1 has given 1 Gen Rep to cellochiddler
tryna round up my mythicals before i completely forget 
did you manage to get the ribbon? bc if not i should still prob yoink it back 
im making referal case rn 😭
prob on monday/tuesday
ohhh gg glgl
i mean if u want me to still do it ill be able to do it soon (tuesday/wed), but doing assigment rn
and exam on monday
if not ill trade it back 
lmk when you’re free and i can give it back to you but i kinda wanna hang onto it if that’s okay 
oop just checked home, ive put the mew in scarlet
im nowhere near my switch since im away for the grad, ill be able to trade in around 10h from now
i hate psyspam
i hate this gc
i keep misplaying
this is so frustrating
i'm honestly bout to quit vgc with my experience in the gc
i hate weezing teams
this gc is a disaster
you know what fuck vgc
competitive pokemon sucks
buncha tryhard losers on gc
i hate vgc after this
i can't
i'm getting outplayed every game
and there's another loss
all because i didn't tera gholdengo
fml and fuck vgc
Unless you're in that age group, I wouldn't recommend that
Paul did that i think
Not a good idea
Why?
Cuz if you're like let's say a masters age range for example, that's where you should be playing
They have the separation for a reason
The seperation is for that your average timmy that started playing vgc on cart wont play aginst wolfe glick
But you are right
all these teams are super optimised
fml now i lost to tera bug arch
i'm not playing well
i'm sick of gc
i will never play another gc again
Brother take a break
what's the point, all i do is lose lose lose
i'm a loser, that's all i am and ever will be
i'm taking a break after that win
randbats here i come
randbats isn't as bad as gc i've learnt
maybe i should try a different team idk
That’s like the main reason why you are keep losing
Home towards that one team and maximise how you can play it
it's a better ots team, gc is too random
CTS shouldn't 100% be a factor
i did decent at the regional, idk why i'm struggling now
Fair.
Sometimes your mindset matters.
I made the team work like a normal one and I finally found a way to destroy psyspam.
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Yeah
i have a loser mentality and that's what holds me back in vgc and life
Maybe try a diffrent type of team in reg f
Like 2-2-2 ho
i'm sticking with balance
i can't just jump around to different types of teams every time i experience a setback
Ok
i need to learn how to play balance
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I had a fun match against a sun team with Kantotales.
They were using Specs Zard, K9, Dnite and Hitmontop.
Their +1 Kantotales lived a Blizzard from my A9 and Baton Passed the boosts on to their Charizard.
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Why do you think you have a loser's mentality?
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don't use icy wind on malamar
I forgot for a second, but it didn't matter.
I still won because of how slow it was.
TRTD (Total Rain Team Death) was enacted properly.
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i give up on competitive pokemon man, even randbats is feeling too hard
Just watch the vid i semt
This guy makes very good guides on vgc
when even randbats is too difficult idk what else can help me tbh
it's a mentality problem
Probably just get some other stuff to do like other hobbies
I stopped trying because of poor self esteem
Where do people check the evs and ivs and natures and stuff for pokemons used on vgc
Munchstats
Tyty and where can i watch recent tournaments or upcoming ones
whoistwist has given 1 Gen Rep to ido1500
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i see what i've been struggling with now, it's a piloting issue
i should try fake out + nasty plot more
Try to like use the fake out techniche
?
fake out + nasty plot, then switch into a second fake out?
it's hard to do double fake out when they have defiant
can't even do fake out nasty plot into mausape
i signed up for the lv regional, but i'm a beginner who only knows the basics like IVS/EVS, from slightly intermediate comp singles lol. any tips?



