competitive_discussion

[rustic mountain]

i will say im a bit hyped to play a format w/ megas since i never have

[solid frigate]

Reg G but no gimmicks? Yes please

[real prairie]

When I joined VGC

[foggy lodge]

Me too

[dense latch]

same

[rustic mountain]

idk how long thatll last but yea

[real prairie]

grepa lowers SpDef by 10 points

[stone trellis]

Thanks.

[solid frigate]

I’m eyeing on Mega Drampa

Please just be good in Low Power formats so I can cope it’s on par with Ursaluna

[rustic mountain]

lmao

i have to see abilities first

[dense latch]

i really wanna use zard y

[rustic mountain]

zard y seems good still

[real prairie]

I need something else to get drizzle for the love of god! lol

There are rumours mega drampa might get drizzle, not sure how useful that is for it though

[foggy lodge]

40 new megas added to VGC only to be outclassed by the same 5 megas of 10 years ago❤️

[rustic mountain]

i hope atleast a handful are good

[solid frigate]

The only reason I say this cuz it’s slower than Ursaluna and has solid MU against Torkoal lol

[foggy lodge]

I really want mega froslass to work but its a mega gengar meta

[dense latch]

reverse power creep

[real prairie]

who will all be murded by Miraidon now anyway

[rustic mountain]

think u want a bit more outta ur mega

[foggy lodge]

Blursa hits ghost types

I think blursa will just outclass it if mega dramp doesn't have something like dragon type pixilate or something

[dense latch]

dragon normal is pretty mid coverage

[foggy lodge]

Mega Drampa doesn't get EP btw

[rustic mountain]

its not awful its just not great

[real prairie]

gonna get slapped in the face by Zamazenta

[rustic mountain]

ud want it to be a major tr sweeper, idk if it gets there

[solid frigate]

We are not using Mega Drampa on National Dex Format and Restricted format anyway

I just want it to be at least solid in regional Dex formats

[dense latch]

i was about to say “but i’m sure it has a decent non stab movepool” lol never mind i guess

[real prairie]

Yeah, the reg would need to be some gimmick "ZA only" thing i think

[foggy lodge]

That would be cool

Mega Skarmory has a lot of potential

I think its the good body press mon

[bold geode]

Making sure
Would today or tomorrow be the day for a format announcement

[real prairie]

If thats ever the regulation for B'ham and EUIC id have to bow out lol

can't not take Pina

[rustic mountain]

yea i just mean in relation to its strength vs other megas no necessarily just like a torkoal or bmursa

[real prairie]

Tomorrow

[foggy lodge]

If we base on what they have done it should be today in the night

[bold geode]

That's what I thought

[foggy lodge]

But its totally possible as tree said that they don't do anything

[rustic mountain]

also like for all we know it could just be the dex we have in lza for the first format, we wont have any of the rillas/incins ursas etc to start out

[dense latch]

it’s always been last day of a month but who knows

[solid frigate]

252+ SpA Drampa-Mega Hyper Voice vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Ursaluna: 88-105 (37.1 - 44.3%) -- 0.4% chance to 2HKO after burn damage

252+ SpA Life Orb Ursaluna-Bloodmoon Hyper Voice vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Ursaluna: 99-118 (41.7 - 49.7%) -- 84.4% chance to 2HKO after burn damage

I’m actually Suprised by just how close it is

But if I gonna use Old Megas it’s probably Mence and that’s it

[real prairie]

Based on the fact the post from earlier announcing the new format was 1st of april, id assume its 1st of the month

[foggy lodge]

It changes between time zones

[real prairie]

but that might be 1st UK time

[bold geode]

Incineroar was in the trailer for Champions

[rustic mountain]

means itll be in the game at some point doesnt mean always

[foggy lodge]

Mhm

[solid frigate]

Oh yeah the winter time stuff

Idk maybe in 11pm?

[foggy lodge]

They can ban it

[real prairie]

imagine the next format is them just banning the top 20 mons again 🤣

[foggy lodge]

🙏

[solid frigate]

Fuck no I’m staying in ZA atp

[real prairie]

everyone sprinting to a9 balance to suddenly come crashing down

[dense latch]

i think it’ll be either reg f or reg i

[foggy lodge]

I used regular Arcanine a good portion of reg H i can survive it

[waxen dock]

probably

and maybe maybe reg g

[foggy lodge]

But yeah its between reg F and I

[solid frigate]

If it’s I I can use my Ho-Oh Miraidon Team Properly lol

[foggy lodge]

I doubt reg G because it would be the 3rd time

[bold geode]

I'm sorry but I think it would be weird as fuck to have Incin in the trailers but not in the game

[dense latch]

pult gaming if they ban top 20 mons

[foggy lodge]

Reg G for a 3rd over a reg F 2nd run would the biggest middle finger ever

[bold geode]

Also I hope they change off Reg H LOL

[rustic mountain]

dude what? im not saying it wont be in the game im saying we could have a format to start that doesnt include incin

[bold geode]

Yeah but I'm saying it probably would be in the start

Like I think it'd be weird if they didn't do that

[dense latch]

tho i guess top 20 mons reg h doesnt make much sense when there’s no official data to base it on

unless they use an accumulation of in person event data or reg h 1.0

[foggy lodge]

I hope they don't add it right away

[real prairie]

its fine, we will use Mega Scrafty

[bold geode]

Mons have Scrappy and Inner Focus, we be aight

[real prairie]

looks cooler anyway

[foggy lodge]

I like Incin on higher power formats but Incin in low power formats just centralizes the game too much

[rustic mountain]

dude thats like saying they had multiple gimmicks being displayed at once surely that means itll be there at the start too, like the logic is flawed knowing we are just getting megas off rip

the trailer literally states not actual gameplay footage

[solid frigate]

You mean the first trailer which is the teaser or the ones with actual gameplay

[waxen dock]

i think they will

we will know either tommorow or in a month

[real prairie]

haha decided to take a look, this format would exclude:

Incineroar, Gholdengo, Rillaboom, Ursaluna, Dragonite, Sneasler, Ninetales-Alola, Annihilape, Basculegion, Archaludon, Volcarona, Pelipper, Maushold, Kingambit, Amoonguss, Sinistcha, Torkoal, Tyranitar, Porygon2, Garchomp

That would be so fun

[bold geode]

Porygon 2 still being top 20 is wild

[foggy lodge]

PORYGON2 NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[bold geode]

I barely see that guy anymore

[foggy lodge]

wtf how is torkoal top 20

[bold geode]

Hard TR
Sun

[solid frigate]

Yeah no I probably would not have fun either way I miss Archaludon not being a Nuisance

[foggy lodge]

Ig? But like those archetypes are still niche

[bold geode]

Garchomp being up there though is something

[foggy lodge]

Maybe because of marco's team

[bold geode]

Also Volcarona fake ass mon being there, crazy

[foggy lodge]

Omg the only good weather setter would be tytar

[real prairie]

Tera steel mudsdale it is

[rustic mountain]

p2 teams have been getting consistent results

atleast recently

[real prairie]

That's out too

[foggy lodge]

WAIT NO ITS ALSO BANNED

[real prairie]

Politoed goat

[foggy lodge]

No weather reg H nvm this formst would suck

[rustic mountain]

lmao

[solid frigate]

I played it in randbats and it’s genuinely horrible to see lmao

[bold geode]

Ngl the thought of Reg H with bans at least that many sounds so ass

[solid frigate]

Maybe top 10 is enough

Top 20 is too much

[real prairie]

Being real, that format would just be smeargle A-Muk format

[foggy lodge]

Hariyama format

[rustic mountain]

series 6 in swsh was top 10 bans and it was the wild wild west i dont even wanna think about top 20

[solid frigate]

Also btw the last time they tried to make a ban list they also calculate singles Data

[real prairie]

Think previous highest bans was top 12

[foggy lodge]

Top 12 would be okay

[solid frigate]

Top 10-12 is probably safer to not cause chaos

[bold geode]

You can't do top 20 cuz that bans too many good support options

[rustic mountain]

10-12 at this point would b fine since theres so many other mons but series 6 was relatively early in swshs life there wasnt that many add ins at that point the dex was limited

[bold geode]

Offense would just fuck over the format HEAVILY

[rustic mountain]

basically what series 6 became

[solid frigate]

Also Tree didn’t the last time they did the banlist they also use singles’s Data

[foggy lodge]

Fast psyspam actually destroys the meta

[dense latch]

fast psyspam ho would go crazy

[rustic mountain]

they did

[real prairie]

Whims isn't top 20 🤣 fake tears spam go brrr

[rustic mountain]

poor hippowdon

[real prairie]

Dnite would be double cooked. He's all over singles

[solid frigate]

Yeah I’d expect they do the same knowing TPCI doesn’t learn their lesson

[rustic mountain]

they might do bans in champions seems like the time for that has passed in sv

[foggy lodge]

Yeah I think

[bold geode]

Real talk, I know it's boring
But I think the only reasonable thing they can do is keep doing reruns til Champions

[foggy lodge]

If you are moving comp to another game you should do bans

I want champions to have balance patches

[rustic mountain]

i think champions and now w/ lza being introduced they might go away from turn based completely in the mainline series

but yea exactly champions gives them more room to focus on that kinda stuff u mentioned like bans and patches

[waxen dock]

if its vgc then

[solid frigate]

Ohhh wait until we see Genwunners complain about it

Personally I prefer ZA’s Battle System,Feels more engaging

[rustic mountain]

its a bit choppy

but its fun

as long as we keep vgc i dont really care tbh

[solid frigate]

It’s funny to see Excadrill got nuked by my Greninja’s Massive ass Water Shuriken

[rustic mountain]

lmao

[waxen dock]

i think 1 -31 mons are banned is ok

[timber schooner]

There going to do a mixed battle system

[rustic mountain]

31 mons? holy shit lmfao

thats too many bans hahaha

[waxen dock]

cuz torkoal is #31

[foggy lodge]

Top 30 bans means only shitmons format💔

[rustic mountain]

that seems personal

[waxen dock]

also for some reason hrk9 has more usage than torkoal

in that case 1-30

[foggy lodge]

That's actually crazy

[timber schooner]

What's the next format

[waxen dock]

it means a format without meta mons

[foggy lodge]

I haven't seen Harc on any team that isn't the Tangs team

[rustic mountain]

even then ppl have been replacing it

[waxen dock]

we dont know yet

[waxen dock]

yeah

but it says on pikalytics he is like 27 i think and torkoal id 31

[foggy lodge]

It was on the espathra team too actually

Maybe the espathra team did something lol

[waxen dock]

ok so only top 12

[foggy lodge]

But I think if they do bans they will either base of

[rustic mountain]

they could just handpick mons tbh

[foggy lodge]

Ladder which is now not an option because they killed ladder wujuu!!!

Or tournament statistics

[bold geode]

I will say they gotta keep Champions fresh for a good while cuz tbh

[waxen dock]

they can also do usage from gc

[bold geode]

I am of the belief that Champions is where VGC will stay

[foggy lodge]

Yeah GCs are a good metric

[rustic mountain]

yea it seems like it

[waxen dock]

i hope champions wont have incin till like 1-2 years after release

[rustic mountain]

but theyll be able to do a lot more i think w/ a game that literally focuses on just that

[bold geode]

Yeah I especially think after ZA that future titles will lean more into RTB

[dense latch]

no announcement yet

[solid frigate]

Imagine we got the first format of Champions and it’s a ZA Format

Gyarados and Salamence finally got their job application back

[rustic mountain]

dont mention incin not being in on release monke will have a conniption

[bold geode]

And I wouldn't be surprised at all if even ranked ladder in future titles aren't like za ranked

[waxen dock]

wont happen

[bold geode]

Honestly I wouldn't be mad if future titles ranked ladders were like ZA ranked
It's fun

[rustic mountain]

that and champions being a thing

[waxen dock]

tbh i think seperating reg h and j was a mistake

[rustic mountain]

if it was no champions and just the new system thered be no chance its that we are getting an outlet specifcially for vgc that makes them ditching turn based for mainline more likely

[solid frigate]

Tree you don’t know how mad I am seeing this lmao

[dense latch]

i think wild pokemon battles being real time like za would be sick

makes catching mons way easier and fun

[rustic mountain]

me not having played a single game of ranked yet

nah i heard u get like 2-3 sport balls for reaching rank a tho

[dense latch]

it took me like half an hour to get to rank k it was pretty fun

[rustic mountain]

yea i heard its easy

once i get shiny charm ill jump into za comp

[dense latch]

i have to get through 2 weeks of finals before getting on za

[solid frigate]

Tbh the ranked modes is actually fun

I’m just killing stuff with Greninja and Gardevoir lol

You don’t need to EV anything as well it’s just that good

[rustic mountain]

prolly better to ev hahaha

[solid frigate]

Actually I didn’t miss that much Kills about that

But I am still getting More TMs so that I can make Gren use Double Water+Dark and Ice Moves

[foggy lodge]

I saw that you get delphox stone on rank S and I thought damn getting it its super hard until I remembered that ZA letters are not like all the other games lmao

[solid frigate]

ZA is backwards which is actually a bit funny

[next stump]

Is there a new regulation announcement today? IDK why I thought it would be next month

but twitter seems to think it’s due today

[solid frigate]

Hopefully

[foggy lodge]

Can Baxcalibur do anything in reg H again

It had some moments here and then but rn its dead

[bold geode]

Yeah honestly like
ZA was a success in my eyes and they'll probably lean more into that and even for ranked, that shit is fun
Like sure for VGC stay turn based hence Champions but like
Yeah like at least to me ngl ranked ZA felt like the ranked that casuals would want

[rustic mountain]

theyve perfected the turn based system for the game imo so why do away w/ it? especially at a point where vgc is on the rise in popularity

but yea i do think lza shows they are willing to and might actually go that route in the future for the mainline specifically now that we are getting a game like champions to house vgc

and honestly if they are based theyll do an actual real singles format

no 3v3

[solid frigate]

Actually I’m curious

What are y’all’s ZA playthrough teams

[rustic mountain]

rn? or wat i finished with/beat the game w/

[solid frigate]

Up to you to decide

[rustic mountain]

i had ferilgatr, talon, diggersby, shiny ampharos, charizard and absol

for my like actual playthru team

[bold geode]

Yeah I think now they actually have a way to like
Split off things and potentially even focus on the two as separate entities and I think doing that would make sense

[rustic mountain]

most of the game really

[solid frigate]

I kinda just have this as my playthrough team

[rustic mountain]

shiny mence nice u hunted it?

[rustic mountain]

agreed

[solid frigate]

Someone give it to me after post game cuz I am using Regular Mence for the playthrough

Ill try shiny hunt myself it’s piss easy anyway

[bold geode]

Plus it gives them options to mix and match stuff without having to recode old games like for example they can do mega and tera mixed for example without having to code megas into SV

[rustic mountain]

is it ?

ive come across shiny snorunt and magikarp so far but those got added post game since they were either super late or like just as i was finishing the story

[bold geode]

Honestly after time, the worst thing about Champions will probably be that you might have to pay money on Home to have more boxes

[solid frigate]

It’s stupidly easy to hunt shinies here lmao

[rustic mountain]

idk man full odds is rough

its y im getting charm

[solid frigate]

Fair enough

[rustic mountain]

250ish more battles

[solid frigate]

I also have to do Infinite ZA Royale to get the Floette

[rustic mountain]

how many is that

im at like 13

[solid frigate]

15 I’m currently doing the 14th one

After that I’ll do the Dex and stuff

[rustic mountain]

i got 3 more mons for the dex but u dont even need to complete it for shiny charm in this game

[solid frigate]

Yeah just catch multiple mons and you are fine

But personally complete the Dex is more satisfying

[rustic mountain]

yea ill do it eventually

especially cuz well need a living dex for the home reward thing they do eventually

just not pressed for it rn

[solid frigate]

Also the fucking side quest man

Specifically the Pikachu vs Pikachu one lol

Wdym bro has Dig on it’s Pikachu

While I have to stick with play rough

[rustic mountain]

one of the hardest side quests

i had to get so strategic

taught mine dig, had to lvl up the shit outta it and then give it a sitrus cuz shuca did not seem to do enough

[solid frigate]

Atp use Eviolite to sponge some hits

[stone trellis]

I've been roaming around East Province Area Two for so long and I still haven't obtained a single Grepa Berry.

I need this.

My Switch is low on battery and I have a lot of work to do tomorrow.

Plus, I want to register early.

[solid frigate]

https://x.com/theyisusone/status/1984276144540225846?s=46

@treeco.#0000

Yisuno ⚝ | MEGA ENJOYER (@TheYisusOne)

Happy Halloween guys
Here's a happy concept that might happen in Pokemon Champions

X · Oct 31, 2025, 3:07 PM

[stone trellis]

I already said this a while ago.

It'd be funny as shit.

[solid frigate]

I guess it helps since you can’t be burned and stuff

[stone trellis]

Only problem is Hearthflame.

[solid frigate]

Wait how fast is this thing

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 227: Skarmory-Mega

Types

Steel/Flying

Abilities

Keen Eye, Sturdy, Weak Armor (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

65/140/110/40/100/110

Total

565

Base Species

Skarmory

Sableye version 4.29.0

Pokémon No. 1017: Ogerpon-Hearthflame

Types

Grass/Fire

Abilities

Mold Breaker

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/120/84/60/96/110

Total

550

Base Species

Ogerpon

Sableye version 4.29.0

[stone trellis]

Mold Breaker is one of those abilities that weirdly scales with how good the Pokemon is.

You could put As One or Huge Power on any reasonably good physical attacker and watch them go nuts.

[short quiver]

i was gonna say huge power pikachu then remembered it already has a signature item
that basically does that already

[stone trellis]

But Mold Breaker is kind of a blank slate ability.

It's still inarguably in the top 10 for me, but that's more because of how cracked some of its users have been.

[foggy lodge]

It depends on the meta

[short quiver]

mold breaker fake out tinkaton “the king felt true fear for the first time” ~Farigiraf

[waxen dock]

Tommorow i wake up and want to see whats the new reg

[foggy lodge]

Sometimes is useless sometimes goes crazy

[stone trellis]

The "sometimes" basically means "when Hearthflame is/isn't legal".

[waxen dock]

Btw for some peoole in us they can see the reg today if it gets announced tommorow

Cuz i think it announces 0 utc or something

[foggy lodge]

Uhhh what did mold breaker do in the metas

It hits through multiscale and flash fire for ogerpon

It can hit levitate mons with ground moves

[stone trellis]

Sturdy is also bypassed.

And as Vex mentioned, you hit through Armor Tail.

[foggy lodge]

My favourite calc is the crit ivy cudgel OHKOing rockpon

[waxen dock]

Yes

So new reg should be released in 5 hours and 49 minutes or either 30 days and 5 hours and 49 minutes

[stone trellis]

I'd say I'll be up at 2 AM to see the announcement, but Lord knows I need to sleep well tonight.

So apparently I'm still in Seniors?

It says "born between 2009 and 2012".

I was born firmly in the middle of 2009.

[waxen dock]

They provably forgot to change it

[stone trellis]

You sure?

Oh well, Masters will just be harder.

[waxen dock]

Probably

[stone trellis]

Fuck it.

I got 295th last time, I'm trying to get top 128 this time around.

[waxen dock]

I think you arent getting points anyway so if you want join seniors

[waxen dock]

I got 175 and before that 12

[stone trellis]

Nice.

[waxen dock]

In masters thats good results

[stone trellis]

The age division for 2025 official competitions page still says that people born between 2009 and 2012 are in Seniors.

Screw it, I'm doing it for the love of the game anyway.

[waxen dock]

You arent going to get any points so go ahead

[timber schooner]

Im planning on winning

[short quiver]

with sceptile? 🤨

[foggy lodge]

https://fixupx.com/AlfLandonFan36/status/1984050597818200355

AlfLandonFan (@AlfLandonFan36)

@temp6t "Singles"

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FixupX · Oct 31, 2025, 12:11 AM

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/lute-lute-hazbin-hotel-lute-hazbin-hazbin-hotel-lute-hazbin-lute-gif-937210909434529649

average reaction to having to go to work

[shadow wind]

I mean if you do a monkey’s job as a horse you’ll never work a day in your life

Or whatever that quote was

[short quiver]

I wonder if the W word is triggering to some people here

[lofty tartan]

Probably not. It's a pretty silly meme and most adults are used to the fact that they need to work if they want to survive

[waxen dock]

What?

[short quiver]

aye man i gotta check 🤷‍♂️

also happy all hallows eve every body

[shadow wind]

Keyword being most

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/fnb-get-this-man-a-true-gif-25257480

[timber schooner]

How long till the 4 mat gets announced

[short quiver]

🤷‍♂️

[timber schooner]

Got any guesses

[short quiver]

all i heard was potentially UTC 0

but i cannot confirm its validity

[timber schooner]

When does it get called

[next stump]

if it is coming today, it’ll be in 3 or 4 hours

[timber schooner]

Regulation b all pokemon are restricted except for non fully evolved pokemon

[short quiver]

what about reg A. only the non legendary paldea national dex

😀

[cyan smelt]

Hmmm could I replace electabuzz with smeargle on my team

[short quiver]

may i see the team

[foggy lodge]

The point of Smeargle was mostly the ghost inmunity and the bullshit of movepool it has

But ig you could do that Electabuzz does well into rain

[cyan smelt]

I got Blaziken and rilla already

[foggy lodge]

Wait wtf are you playing

Weren't you playing the incin rilla sneasler dengo team

[cyan smelt]

Yes I am

[foggy lodge]

Why is blaziken there

[cyan smelt]

The other team I was testing I mean

[foggy lodge]

Oh

[short quiver]

[cyan smelt]

If I replace buzz with smeargle that frees up a coverage move on dnite

[foggy lodge]

Electabuzz is better on that team

Smeargle is for incin dengo rilla sneasler

[stone trellis]

Fine by me.

I'm not going to participate in any in-person events and I'm not keen on going to Worlds, I just want to see how far I can go.

[short quiver]

if i can get my team ready in time im participating too

i cant wait to see coaching mudsdale body slam

i do still gotta calc my team
and everything

but i can work on that after i get my moves together

[timber schooner]

That would be a format sceptile could do something in

Kind off

[stone trellis]

It does speed tie with Sneasler, which is certainly something.

[timber schooner]

Its also the fastest mono grass type

[stone trellis]

I mean, cool?

[timber schooner]

How do you build a team exactly im pretty new to doubles

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 1017: Ogerpon

Type

Grass

Abilities

Defiant

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/120/84/60/96/110

Total

550

Other Formes

Ogerpon-Wellspring, Ogerpon-Hearthflame, Ogerpon-Cornerstone, Ogerpon-Teal-Tera, Ogerpon-Wellspring-Tera, Ogerpon-Hearthflame-Tera, Ogerpon-Cornerstone-Tera

Sableye version 4.29.0

[dense latch]

it’s honestly much better to use strong pre-existing teams when you’re just starting out

focusing on improving your play first will then help you understand what a good team needs in different formats and/or stages in the meta

[short quiver]

how much speed would a 252+ rabsca have

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 954: Rabsca

Types

Bug/Psychic

Abilities

Synchronize, Telepathy (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/50/85/115/100/45

Total

470

Sableye version 4.29.0

[dense latch]

like 100ish

[short quiver]

bleh

[dense latch]

so really bad

[short quiver]

well there goes that idea

[dense latch]

why rabsca

[short quiver]

its the only mon in gen 9 to get speed swap

besides smeargle obviously which is even slower

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 235: Smeargle

Type

Normal

Abilities

Own Tempo, Technician, Moody (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

55/20/35/20/45/75

Total

250

Sableye version 4.29.0

[short quiver]

oh smeargle is faster

[dense latch]

it’s much faster but def still not fast enough for it

[short quiver]

sigh

i was gonna speed swap with mudsdale

https://tenor.com/view/freaky-freaky-smile-sukuna-sukuna-smile-freaky-sukuna-gif-4852549280133734300

252+ smeargle is only 139

[stone trellis]

@timber schooner Wanna have a match?

[timber schooner]

Ok

[stone trellis]

On Showdown, right?

[timber schooner]

Ok

[stone trellis]

https://pokepast.es/59b03963fd7f0f4e

[short quiver]

@dense latch do you think 139 is a manageable speed swap number

[stone trellis]

Here is my team.

[foggy lodge]

139 is just okay

[stone trellis]

@timber schooner What is your username on Showdown?

[foggy lodge]

Its a fine speed tier but nothing great

[timber schooner]

King Colbin

[stone trellis]

Get on then.

[foggy lodge]

Faster than Incin P2 Primarina and Pelipper is good tho

[stone trellis]

You want a best of 3 match or just one game?

[cyan smelt]

@pure niche good luck today 🙏

[stone trellis]

@timber schooner

[timber schooner]

3

[stone trellis]

Then log on.

[timber schooner]

I am

[short quiver]

do you think it could work on a mudsdale 😁

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2472551474-cd6yter6g1cmt3qh2m5u6keupicd23apw

[short quiver]

That was fast

[pure niche]

Are you playing today? Good luck if you are!

[dense latch]

for a mid speed tier that seems like too much work

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2472553071-7jsi5eomw8i0xvuhmyj9mydqkudbspvpw

[cyan smelt]

Yes I am and ty

[timber schooner]

I kind of suck still

[stone trellis]

I'm so sorry, brother.

This was punching down.

[cyan smelt]

I suck too

[stone trellis]

That's not the mindset we want here.

[pure niche]

Noice! Hope you have a good start to your rounds

I need a coffee before I start haha

[timber schooner]

Lets try another i gave sceptile its actually good moveset

[stone trellis]

You're a great player using a great team that was EV'd by the (self-proclaimed) king of EV spreads.

[stone trellis]

I don't like to punch down, but aight.

This is just practice for me.

[cyan smelt]

I'll see how I go today, I like the team and there's plenty of setup

[next stump]

good luck australian players!

[dense latch]

best of luck @cyan smelt 🔥

[next stump]

deep breaths, drink lots of water, eat snacks

[cyan smelt]

Damn I forgot my snacks, guess I'll have to hit up the food place

[stone trellis]

@timber schooner Ready?

[timber schooner]

Yep

[stone trellis]

Do you have a new username?

[short quiver]

how about on a mudsdale tho

[timber schooner]

Same one I was just doing something

[dense latch]

that hurts your case more than it helps honestly

you're doing all that for a mudsdale

[short quiver]

125 base attack on a pure ground with stamina is 125 base attack

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2472558098-fg3hfmyrrj0ehwub9oe7f95n025kkqopw
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2472559820-hpungyt57h3gv73fxnccsgs6kus33sdpw

[timber schooner]

Would terra grass bullet seed be better

[stone trellis]

Do as you please, I don't know.

I don't use Sceptile and I don't plan on doing so.

[timber schooner]

Does terra stab stack with regular

[stone trellis]

Yes.

[timber schooner]

Ok

[foggy lodge]

No

[stone trellis]

Why did he quit?
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2472561921-uwdqel1x7ew43duj7kl08gpqqpy934xpw

[foggy lodge]

Its a mid speed tier still

[stone trellis]

He could've won this.

[short quiver]

hows substitue sceptile working for you bud @timber schooner 😭

[timber schooner]

I need to pick a different terra

[stone trellis]

I just noticed the 1637 rank.

HOW DO YOU LOSE TO ME OF ALL PEOPLE WHEN YOUR ELO IS 160 POINTS ABOVE MINE?

[short quiver]

you need to stop trying substitute

[stone trellis]

Yeah, Sceptile is a frail attacker.

[dense latch]

sceptile isn't going to be good with any set man

[foggy lodge]

^^^^^

[short quiver]

especially INTENTIONALLY sacrificing its own hp

[dense latch]

the only niche i can even remotely see is it can one shot urshifu through sash

and that's it

but you'd be lucky if your sceptile lives to actually use that bullet seed

[short quiver]

which it probably wont

[foggy lodge]

If only there was another pokemon that gets bullet seed with loaded dice with a tera that can make it faster than it usually is while having a good ability and support moves like follow me

[short quiver]

yo @stone trellis

[dense latch]

playing a reg g tour rn i forgot how much fun eleki was

[foggy lodge]

WHAT

SEND I WANT TO PLAY IT

[dense latch]

can't wait to play a shadow rider and stop feeling like this

[stone trellis]

Yeah?

[dense latch]

o i forgot to mention it's a room tour :(

[short quiver]

im
on break rn im gonna grab some food after you wanna run a BO3 reg j? 😀

[foggy lodge]

Will they do another one

[stone trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/freaky-freaky-smile-sukuna-sukuna-smile-freaky-sukuna-gif-4852549280133734300

Is your team prepared for mine?

I don't know if I should go with the slow mode or the fast mode, honestly.

[cyan smelt]

I need to somehow get better at building teams

[short quiver]

i know how to deal with icy. tr not so much

[stone trellis]

I'll try fast mode in game 1 because it's just so funny.

[short quiver]

i have BB, sucker punch before tera and ep after tera

also fusion flare before tera

[stone trellis]

I have the funny stuff.

GOATflame.

[short quiver]

i have snow

[stone trellis]

Good on you.

[short quiver]

which also helps your icy admittedly

[stone trellis]

Fast mode it is.

[stone trellis]

Just be quick.

I need to go to sleep soon.

[short quiver]

i probably won’t be quick 🫠

[stone trellis]

Good night then.

I'll fight tomorrow.

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-hell-fire-burning-miserable-gif-21470597

[short quiver]

bet

[stone trellis]

Just a reminder.

You're the challenger here.

[short quiver]

yes

bo3

white kyurem zac vs icy mirai

[dense latch]

@foggy lodge not reg g room tour but it's reg f if you're interested

[timber schooner]

You ever tried shell smash delphox

[short quiver]

isnt that a thing in singles

[timber schooner]

Yeah

[short quiver]

shell smash eject pack copycat

[stone trellis]

"Stomping Tantrum is a damage-dealing move that doubles its power to 150 if the user's previous move failed to affect the opponent. This includes a variety of failures, such as missing, being hit by a protection move like Protect, being prevented from moving, or failing due to type immunity or ability. The power does not double if the move was blocked by a protection move, such as Protect."

This is why I love reading the AI overview on Google.

This fucking clanker, man.

[foggy lodge]

@dense latch you saw that shit

why the fuck was it 0 speed chi yu man LMAO

[dense latch]

o that was you i was about to ask

i got crit twice in a row by ivy cudgel in my set

[foggy lodge]

Me too

[foggy lodge]

Maybe reg F is actually ass

[dense latch]

i missed your g2 im doing some revision on the side

also i hope you didnt see my game on the reg g tour 😭

[foggy lodge]

Nah it isn't this is a team I never really practiced

[foggy lodge]

i saw game 1

the rockpon lead cooked you

[dense latch]

yea

[stone trellis]

"Why yes, let me take my son with 100m times that would make Usain Bolt blush and cut his legs off"

[dense latch]

i was hoping he wouldn't go for cudgel but there was no reason for him to not do it

i forgot what my hard tr line was

[foggy lodge]

I liked CIR eleki lead

Cuz you can eweb into glacial lance

[stone trellis]

Send the team paste, that sounds ungodly.

[foggy lodge]

Or maybe not does your CIR outspeed -1 oger?

[dense latch]

the torkoal was what really scared me

[dense latch]

it doesn't

[foggy lodge]

Oh its 120 to outspeed oger i'm bullshiting LOL

[dense latch]

i don't think any cir can

[foggy lodge]

But I liked eleki lead

[dense latch]

i think i ev'd it to outspeed at -2

[foggy lodge]

Eleki chi yu is okay I think

[stone trellis]

Which Ogerpon?

Jolly RockPon?

[dense latch]

i was using a slightly altered version of 2024 top 8 worlds

[timber schooner]

Anything on the new format

[foggy lodge]

But I think the MU is still really hard

[dense latch]

cir eleki lando was my favorite core during reg g

[dense latch]

the og navjit team has an easier time into it

the team i was using kinda lacks a defensive backbone and im not comfortable with teams that don't

[foggy lodge]

Amoonguss effectively doesn't do anything into rockpon cir, chi yu lando get cooked by that lead, urshifu gets punished by rockpon and eleki is just hard to bring into hard TR

Wait hmmm

Is eleki urshifu fine

[dense latch]

ursh was probably a better bring

rockpon didnt have a grass move but cir did for whatever reason

[foggy lodge]

Yeah you also could have aqua jet'd the torkoal at some point

[short quiver]

it hasnt been 4 hours since you last asked when dollarmonkey told you if its today it would be about 4 hours

[dense latch]

also i had a bit of tunnel vision and just thought of sandsear heat wave pin on cir to stop tr

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/a6654975f45c6eca

[dense latch]

sandsear double missed though so that wasnt gonna work anyways

[foggy lodge]

LOL

Sorry for that man I also hate sandsear

[dense latch]

i think i would've been in a much better position had one of them connected

[foggy lodge]

I thought about moving the taunt of urshifu on the Tang's team to the lando over sandsear cuz I hated missing

[dense latch]

i probably still lose but not that hard

i liked playing arubega with my team but then people figured out whim ursh was a really good lead into eleki lando :(

[foggy lodge]

You can play mindgames into it too

[short quiver]

could you just drop sandsear altogether for EP

?

[foggy lodge]

It always runs earth power xd

[short quiver]

yeah but like

[foggy lodge]

Sandsear is just the second coverage

[short quiver]

boooooo

https://tenor.com/view/boo-gif-19787475173016375

[foggy lodge]

My thought process on sandsear varied a lot

[cyan smelt]

I kinda want to use lando

[foggy lodge]

Sometimes I never click it because it can miss and sometimes I just click it because I think "sandsear is there for a reason"

[dense latch]

yea i used to switch from "i'll only use it if it's absolutely necessary" to "fuck it why not" very quickly in reg g

[molten oasis]

Yo

What’s good in the format, the team I got feels hella inconsistent?

[foggy lodge]

Incin rilla sneasler dengo blursa

Or dengo blursa dnite incin

And uh idk

[dense latch]

https://tenor.com/view/volcarona-pokemon-plush-spin-rotate-gif-1895534360183536919

very biased

[foggy lodge]

Yeah Volc is good

But i think i overrated it

[molten oasis]

[foggy lodge]

Its fine and can do well into some popular stuff but those teams still have tools to beat it

[molten oasis]

Not my intention I meant good into that kinda stuff

[molten oasis]

Maybe this tho

With sash a9 and smth else

[foggy lodge]

I think that you need incin dengo blursa rilla annihilape or archaludon to have something in this format

Meta just sucks that much

Sneasler too

[stone trellis]

The Adamant Life Orb Garchomp that just popped a Tera (I've won at least three games off of this):

[foggy lodge]

Incin dengo blursa rilla sneasler annihilape and archa are restricteds

[stone trellis]

Who would be Ice Rider in this scenario?

[foggy lodge]

Archaludon

[stone trellis]

Fair.

[molten oasis]

I don’t care about having or run dengo or blursa my annoyance comes from like, all the teams are just those 6 and its boring

[timber schooner]

I have found a sceptile set that works

That is completely its own

[foggy lodge]

We've seen that same message like 10 times already

[timber schooner]

This time I mean it

[short quiver]

and none if them have worked except for lucky ass games against idiots

[foggy lodge]

Idk i think there's isn't a lot to do with innovations

I can give you Chandelure

[short quiver]

i used your exact team and my only wins with it were cuz i didnt use sceptile at all

[foggy lodge]

That's my niche mon I think can do something

[short quiver]

mine is meowscarada

which has PROVEN it can do something

[stone trellis]

Mine's Iron Valiant.

My rating on Showdown speaks for its strengths.

[short quiver]

i can confirm that sentence

[stone trellis]

And the fact that it had a 93% win rate for the first 70 games I played on that team.

[short quiver]

well, let us see the set

[stone trellis]

You have my team paste, shut up.

Oh, his.

[short quiver]

yeah his

i have several of your teams

somewhere in pms

[dense latch]

how high did you get to?

[molten oasis]

Chandelure?

What kind of team do you end play that on

[foggy lodge]

Deedee sneasler

[bold geode]

https://x.com/iWillTheGamer/status/1984376934114234570?t=IA5bBSjaQc8ukcXc_IZJXw&s=19
@foggy lodge I'm not the only one LMAO

iWill ➡️ Pokemon Worlds 2026 (@iWillTheGamer)

@itslikecrackyo I'm finna block the next person who reposts a Victory Road or Serebii old Regulation Ruleset post LMAO

X · Oct 31, 2025, 9:48 PM

[molten oasis]

Also trying to find smth that works for me for the GC has been a struggle

[foggy lodge]

LMAO

[molten oasis]

Male Deedee?

[real prairie]

Wonder if we will get costume Pokémon on champions.

This would make a cool ursaluna

[foggy lodge]

Yes

[bold geode]

Won't we get an announcement in like less than 20 minutes if anything?

[foggy lodge]

It has varied everytime they announce new formats

[stone trellis]

Highest so far is like, 1569.

[bold geode]

That's like high mid if anything

[stone trellis]

Should be 73 minutes.

[real prairie]

1 hour 13 minutes, midnight UK time

[stone trellis]

I got into playing VGC not even 10 months ago.

[molten oasis]

Are we supposed to get a announcement today?

[bold geode]

Imma fucking cry

[molten oasis]

If something good comes up I’m not touching the GC

[stone trellis]

Don't expect me to be pulling Toronto prep Wolfey ratings.

[bold geode]

By regular scheduled programming i believe it's today or tomorrow

[bold geode]

You will touch the GC or else

No Emma Frost for you

[molten oasis]

Dude I don’t have a team

[real prairie]

I'm hoping for something just so I can stream ladder again, fuck reg J

[bold geode]

Aight fuck it
No Emma Frost for Drago

[molten oasis]

But like seriously idk what to play

[bold geode]

Just play some horseshit idk

Like land on something
You got less than a week lol

And deadass I feel this always happens
When's the last time ya did a GC

[stone trellis]

Use mine.

It's shit, but it's honest work.

[timber schooner]

How much set up is to much set up

[stone trellis]

More than 1 turn to start doing meaningful damage.

Per Pokemon.

[timber schooner]

So one set up then attack

[stone trellis]

That's the ideal, yes.

Unless you are so confident in your Pokemon living the turn that you can get off a second setup.

[molten oasis]

A year ago.

Well I wanna play chomp a9 but I can’t get something I like

Like incin dengo a9 chomp works fine but the other 2 just, idk

[stone trellis]

I have Dengo and Chomp.

[real prairie]

Age of mythology

GC is next weekend right?

[stone trellis]

Yes.

[stone trellis]

What are the other two?

[bold geode]

Just land on something lol

[cyan smelt]

Lost my first game, I'm a loser

[bold geode]

Stop that

[cyan smelt]

Tera fairy ursaluna next to kilowattrel is hard

[bold geode]

You fought the one person that uses that

[cyan smelt]

Yeah but kilowattrel and ground types are a good combo

[molten oasis]

They were hydrei and flamigo

[cyan smelt]

Idk what to lead into that, maybe rilla sneasler

[molten oasis]

Both felt meh

[stone trellis]

I have Hydreigon.

[molten oasis]

What’s your set?

[stone trellis]

Listen, I use Garchomp, Amoonguss, Sneasler, Gholdengo, Talonflame and Hydreigon.

[molten oasis]

It’s not that easy!

[stone trellis]

Hydreigon is standard Specs Tera Fire.

I made it 196 Timid to outspeed Jolly Ape.

[molten oasis]

I’m pretty sure the standard isn’t specs but ok

I think for vgc its goggles

Like the tournament play

[molten oasis]

Is amoonguss even all that good?

[stone trellis]

I mean the moves are standard for Specs sets.

[cyan smelt]

Rilla sneasler seems good into kilowattrel

[short quiver]

how long do i have to enlist my team for the gc

[stone trellis]

It certainly adds some semblance of bulk to my team while offering redirection and sleep.

[stone trellis]

Until next Saturday at 12 AM UTC.

[cyan smelt]

@pure niche how'd you go?

[molten oasis]

Mm, maybe I’ll give talon another go

[molten oasis]

Fair enough

[short quiver]

so right before the gc starts

[stone trellis]

Yes.

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/freaky-freaky-smile-sukuna-sukuna-smile-freaky-sukuna-gif-4852549280133734300

gives me a decent amount of time for this team

[bold geode]

Yes it is when you don't scrap a whole team less than a week before cuz of 1-2 bad ladder sessions

[molten oasis]

It was like 4 but ok

I’ll stick with dengo a9 chomp and incin but rounding that outs proving tricky

[bold geode]

There's been other times lol

[molten oasis]

I think I want redirect tho

[molten oasis]

I’m aware I’m trying to be better

[short quiver]

i have my team i just need to ev train and lp farm for moves

[bold geode]

Chat it's Pringles time

[cyan smelt]

God I need to fix my insecurity issues

[molten oasis]

Just feels rough, especially when like every team I run into is sand lol

[bold geode]

@foggy lodge this guy in Oceania is running Rilla Ursaluna regular
Yeah lemme weaken my own EQs

[cyan smelt]

Ok I need to let go of my expectations, this is just a learning experience

[stone trellis]

Glad to see you're calming down.

[foggy lodge]

Lol

[cyan smelt]

Trying to avoid getting tilted

[timber schooner]

What ii have a team that involves rampardoes

[pure niche]

It was tough but I came out on top, sorry to hear your game 1 result but honestly game 1 is the hardest for sure, all the nerves and expectation. Now round 1 is over you've got this next round man, good luck!

I'll be cheering for you for sure

[cyan smelt]

I just didn't preserve smeargle well enough, should have led smeargle and gholdengo or something

Or smeargle blursa

And that kilowattrel was tough to deal with

Probably played the only person running kilowattrel

Should have wide guarded first turn actually

[pure niche]

Play your game how you feel comfortable, you've definitely got the lines but sometimes you don't know it until afterwards

[cyan smelt]

Smeargle blursa was probably the play

[pure niche]

Round 2 pairings up, good luck luck!

[short quiver]

+2 252+ SpA Life Orb Tera Water Meowstic Tera Blast (80 BP) vs. 244 HP / 68 SpD Assault Vest Incineroar: 198-234 (98.5 - 116.4%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

if i drop it to 244 the calc stays basically the same

im trying to see if i can get enough points into hp to minimize lorb recoil

looking like 12 hp 244 spa 252 spe

[real prairie]

@cyan smelt you on day 1 of Brisbane already?

[bold geode]

Oh are we seeing Kit play at regional

[stone trellis]

Any news?

[real prairie]

Dunno, Im not on cart

[next stump]

don’t see any yet

[cyan smelt]

Lost again, I suck

[real prairie]

Breath

[cyan smelt]

I honestly don't think I can compete with my mental health conditions

I'm probably gonna go 0-8

[real prairie]

What team did you take in the end?

[cyan smelt]

Smeargle, ursa bm, gholdengo, incin, rilla, sneasler

Lost to that mausape, gholdengo, rilla, dnite ursabm team

This really isn't fun for me anymore

[real prairie]

Did you get any real practice with that lineup?

[cyan smelt]

Most of it yeah

[real prairie]

Fair, keep going man. It's all good experience

Think back and learn from each game

[cyan smelt]

I guess even if I go 0-8 I can use this team on showdown

In the future I need to find a team and practice a lot more with it

[stone trellis]

You could try mine after you're done.

[cyan smelt]

Nah idk whether I want to continue after this, I'm not improving

I should have listened to my gut, I thought to myself I hadn't seen the ape yet

Should have led rilla sneasler

I'm way too impulsive

I need to think through my decisions, I always ignore my intuition

[stone trellis]

Then don't ignore it.

[stone trellis]

If you don't continue, you will never improve.

Take a break if you absolutely need to, but don't stop entirely.

[cyan smelt]

I feel like I haven't improved in all the time I've played

[stone trellis]

You went from barely being in the 1100s to now cracking into the 1400s.

[cyan smelt]

Just want today to be done now

[stone trellis]

Is that not improvement?

[cyan smelt]

Ig I am getting better, with a suboptimal team

[stone trellis]

So we'll get back to building a better one.

[cyan smelt]

Diego ferrera is using tr and has lurantis lol

[stone trellis]

Why is a Chilean player playing in an Australian regional, by the way?

Is he half Aussie?

[cyan smelt]

I think he's naturalised australian

[stone trellis]

Oh.

Which means...?

[cyan smelt]

He's lived here long enough so he has citizenship

[stone trellis]

Got it.

[real prairie]

Some players will go all over for a chance to win, some people see the Aussie circuit as an easier opportunity

[cyan smelt]

I think he's Australian though

[real prairie]

There was an American in Lille last weekend, high level player

[real prairie]

I was speaking generally

[stone trellis]

His flag is displayed as the Chilean flag, so...

[cyan smelt]

Nothing to do but think through my decisions, learn from my mistakes and listen to my intuition now and hopefully I can win

[real prairie]

Just means how he wants to identify, I could have selected Italy if I wanted to, they don't ask for evidence

Represent is better word than identity

[next stump]

What’s his name? I think I played him at Worlds

Diego something?

[real prairie]

Subtle flex

[next stump]

LOL I remember meeting a Chilean Australian guy

Crazy combo

No way there’s 2 of them

[dense latch]

diego ferreira yea

[timber schooner]

Anything on the new format yet

[dense latch]

when or if it drops

we're gonna be talking about it here almost immediately

[timber schooner]

Its sometime between now and twelve

[short quiver]

probably for a while

[real prairie]

Someone check on cart?

[short quiver]

sorry i dont have my switch

[timber schooner]

I have mine

[real prairie]

Any updates in the battle stadium?

[dense latch]

based on when reg j/h and reg i were announced it should've happened an hour ago

so maybe we don't get anything

[timber schooner]

Hold on

[next stump]

are we sure reg H ends november 30th

[dense latch]

i doubt tpci would announce a new format ONLY on battle stadium and not any social media

[real prairie]

Should have been 28 minutes ago, but it's also the first time since the times changed

So it could be another 32 minutes

[short quiver]

bleh

[next stump]

the ranked season ended already which is usually when they announce

I don’t think we are getting something tonight

[real prairie]

Sadj

[dense latch]

this is what they said

[dense latch]

hopefully

[timber schooner]

It could just reset every ones ranks and keep the same format

[real prairie]

Fucking hope not

[timber schooner]

That's the most likely situation

[dense latch]

reg j might stay the same on cart idk

but we're 100% getting a new format for in person events by december it's just there's no saying when they announce it

[molten oasis]

this team doesn’t work either

[dense latch]

what team

[short quiver]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2472638249

quitters 🥀

[timber schooner]

Can meowscarada target your own team mates

[molten oasis]

Every team I’ve used

Because everyone runs max speed LORB dengo and tailwind and I just lose due to it being a dogshit mu

[short quiver]

yes you can select an ally to attack with Meow

i dont see why you would want to though

[timber schooner]

😈

[upper zealot]

anger point prob

[short quiver]

just use smeargle

[cyan smelt]

0-3, I'm on the verge of going home

[short quiver]

meow will one shot your anger point mon

[cyan smelt]

I blame mak for suggesting fucking smeargle over a9

[upper zealot]

keep playing for the experience

[cyan smelt]

This fucking sucks and makes me hate the game

After today I'm quitting vgc and not looking back

[timber schooner]

Falling is a new opportunity to learn

[cyan smelt]

I'm not learning anything, all I know is that smeargle without protect sucks

[short quiver]

so why do you not have protect 😭

[cyan smelt]

Should have gone dnite instead of smeargle

[solid frigate]

Fire Tauros:

[cyan smelt]

Because mak suggested I go tailwind spore wide guard follow me

[solid frigate]

Yeah that’s fine that Moveset is ok

[cyan smelt]

Maybe I just haven't had enough practice but incin just taunted it and I couldn't fake it out because it had covert cloak

When this nightmare is over I'm going back to using my team rather than this abomination

I'm on the verge of going home

[timber schooner]

Wamp wamp suck it up and deal with it

[cyan smelt]

Don't be rude

[lofty tartan]

This is GC, right Kal0s?

[dense latch]

brisbane regionals

[lofty tartan]

Ah. I mean, there's a lot of things that go into performance at a Regionals, and progress is not linear.

[short quiver]

i guess 🤷‍♂️

[cyan smelt]

All I know is I need to practice with every piece of a team before I attend a regional

[lofty tartan]

You going 8-3 followed by 0-6 does not say you're worse, and not everything is a learning experience.

Sometimes you just lose. Even when doing everything right

You are not the only element in the match that dictates win or lose.

[cyan smelt]

But it feels like every team has been set up to counter this team perfectly

[solid frigate]

It’s just what you can do to make things better

[lofty tartan]

Matchup roulette, bruv.

[solid frigate]

I mean you are playing Blaziken

[cyan smelt]

I'm not

I'm playing the big 6 with smeargle instead of a9

[timber schooner]

Ive literally been experimenting with sceptile for the last 18 hours to find something to make it work

[lofty tartan]

I performed pretty bad at Toronto. Do not let it get you down. And everyone else is looking to kick you when you're down, so the last thing you should be doing is kicking yourself for them

[graceful scaffold]

wait you've gone 8-3 before kalos thats amazing

[cyan smelt]

Nope

[solid frigate]

Hell I only able to get my way back to normal after I was salty on 4-4 first regional

[lofty tartan]

That is not what I meant by that lmao. It was just an example of numbers

[cyan smelt]

I bet I'll go 0-8 or whatever

[graceful scaffold]

even 1 win would be a miracle for me lol, i might try out a regional just to meet ppl

[lofty tartan]

You can perform excellent at one regional and crash out at the next and it doesn't mean you've worsened. Progress isn't linear.

[timber schooner]

You also need a team that fits your play style

[solid frigate]

1 win is actually easy if you know what you are doing and try to adapt through the boardstate

(Or be lucky and have a Positive MU)

[cyan smelt]

Volcarona and kilowattrel and a9 and ape are just too difficult for me to handle

Maybe I should try trick room

[lofty tartan]

Kilo is pretty scant, in comparison to everything else you listed.

[timber schooner]

All of those are weak to rock except monkey

[graceful scaffold]

im just a silly stoat tbh, i played competetive bf1 but my kd is 40-4 lol id wanna try but make ppl laugh yanno

[solid frigate]

I think the major problem is that you constantly switch archetype when you have minor issues with it

[lofty tartan]

But yeah, this is just a stepping stone. When people see success, they don't look at all the times those people have failed in order to find success.

[cyan smelt]

I could have won if I didn't lead gholdengo into mausape

[dense latch]

this is really important

[lofty tartan]

You're already evaluating your losses and learning.

[cyan smelt]

Need to listen to my intuition more

[solid frigate]

Like for example in Reg G 2 and Reg I

I only stick with Miraidon and Miraidon only

[dense latch]

not a perfect analogy but if you try learning 5 instruments at once, giving up on one a few weeks after starting there's gonna be no progress

[cyan smelt]

Even if I lose everything at least I learnt something

[dense latch]

you're clearly reflecting on what you've done wrong
it's what you do with it that matters

[cyan smelt]

I'm gonna stick with balance because I like it

[lofty tartan]

Nah, this tracks.

[cyan smelt]

I do have a tendency to give up too easily

[lofty tartan]

And you beat yourself up constantly.

[dense latch]

write down your mistakes or what you've learned down, keep reminding yourself where there's room for improvement

[timber schooner]

If you want to see a team that is incredibly hard to use look at the one I've made https://pokepast.es/5fd88ae3623baa1b

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/daddys-home2-daddys-home2gifs-stop-it-stop-that-i-mean-it-gif-9694318

[cyan smelt]

Ok new goal I'm just gonna try and have fun while playing

[solid frigate]

Trust me I done that real life lol

[dense latch]

this isn't an easy game at all

[solid frigate]

You missed the opportunity to say this GIF

https://tenor.com/view/stop-it-get-some-help-gif-15058124

[lofty tartan]

No I didn't. Every moment is an opportunity.

I also didn't want to use that one, specifically, because it implies there's something fundamentally wrong with that person.

[solid frigate]

Fair

[cyan smelt]

I have low self esteem so every time I fail I think it reflects on me as a person

[lofty tartan]

I used to have critically low self esteem.

[foggy lodge]

Losing is fine

[lofty tartan]

Now I'm confident for no reason

[timber schooner]

You listen to your negative you will never get a positive

[solid frigate]

Good for you man

Actually now you think about it

I have low self esteem yet I rarely tilt in games lol

[lofty tartan]

But like.. I get it. Things can be pretty tough when you're acting as your own enemy, sometimes.

Confidence is king.

You don't have to have a reason. Just be confident

[cyan smelt]

Gotta work on the self esteem stuff

[lofty tartan]

Like you know who you are. You don't need anyone else to validate you.

[timber schooner]

Anyone want to battle

[lofty tartan]

You are valid.

[solid frigate]

I have been through this by wanting people to validate me through my Teambuilding and stuff,now I kinda don’t care about it with proof of my last team in SV

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-cowboy-finger-gun-pointing-moves-gif-17170914

[cyan smelt]

I wish I just had one positive to cling to but when you're at rock bottom it's difficult to see how things can get better

[lofty tartan]

Teambuilding in and of itself is incredibly difficult, and some of the best players are not building their own teams. They're collaborative effort combining years of experience across multiple people.

No shame in using an established archetype. Winning is winning.

[timber schooner]

Every team is a modified version of another

[foggy lodge]

You've been critical about your mistakes and that's totally the play

[lofty tartan]

Be critical of the mistakes, but not critical of yourself for having made them

[foggy lodge]

You've noticed your mistakes in playing and noticed if there were stuff you didn't like on the teambuilding

[foggy lodge]

This

[solid frigate]

TruE

[foggy lodge]

Making mistakes is fine

[cyan smelt]

I am still stuck with how to play against a9

[lofty tartan]

And even then, you can play perfectly, and still get outplayed. You're only 50% of the action in any game.

[timber schooner]

There is a pokemon that covers all the stuff you have been struggling with

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/miochop-strike-hit-angry-annoyed-gif-15885132

[cyan smelt]

Should have used a9 instead of smeargle

[solid frigate]

Hell maybe less,maybe more,it’s all on how it works

[pure niche]

Keep going Kalos, it can feel shit in the moment but last Brisbane I was shat on so I just learnt everything I could in the rest of the matches

[timber schooner]

Keep going

[cyan smelt]

I'll just play out the rest of it

[lofty tartan]

You both exist for each turn, you both input two moves each turn, until things get down to lack of mons. You are 50% of the decision-making in matches.

[dense latch]

you got this
best of luck kalos

[solid frigate]

Just don’t let your negative thoughts get onto you

[cyan smelt]

Gonna try to think through what they're going to bring etc

[timber schooner]

Kalos there is a pokemon that covers all the things you have been struggling with

[lofty tartan]

O.o

https://tenor.com/view/munchlax-shock-what-gif-17721117278182184394

[solid frigate]

Suprised munchlax

[lofty tartan]

Striking gold.

Insta-saved to favorites.

[solid frigate]

Also btw Mika you don’t know how mad I was when I saw Greninja’s Mega stone is still available in season 2 ladder in ZA

[lofty tartan]

Why be mad?

[foggy lodge]

You ate the fomo

[cyan smelt]

Actually what I need to do is when I'm laddering in bo3 I need to take notes and reflect on what I could have done better

[lofty tartan]

It's obviously a response to the community's opinion of it.

[solid frigate]

I could’ve just wait for a few week and then buying the game lol

[lofty tartan]

I went to Rank K too. PLZA ranked is ez and fun so it's fine.

[foggy lodge]

Mhm

Working the mental is also important

[lofty tartan]

Yeah, I bought a Switch 2 and PLZA recently just to ensure I didn't have to miss out either. Whatever. I was gonna buy it eventually anyway. No difference in me spending now or then.

[dense latch]

honestly team preview is one of the hardest aspects of the game at least for me

[solid frigate]

Yeah dw I got it in day 2 when I bought it cuz I was only gone through the tutorial in day 1

[lofty tartan]

It took like fifteen minutes to get to Rank K.

[foggy lodge]

You can analyze matches and notice mistakes but if the mood is not it then it will be harder

[dense latch]

i still kinda suck at it lol
i rely on remembering what my best lines are

[lofty tartan]

I'm always gonna struggle with team preview because I overthink matchups.

[dense latch]

half the time i just lead volc and pray lol

[lofty tartan]

At the end of the day, you just gotta bring what works and navigate it.

[foggy lodge]

I usually choose the 4 mons fine but struggle at choosing if leading the mons or keeping them in the back

[cyan smelt]

I honestly think smeargle blursa is a good lead for me unless they have taunt

[lofty tartan]

Erik and I are on the same wavelength here.

[dense latch]

lmao

[cyan smelt]

Even if they have taunt I can follow me and calm mind

[solid frigate]

I kinda just let my memory do the work and think what I can bring lol

[lofty tartan]

PLUG THE THINGS AND HOPE FOR THE BEST

Toronto, I mostly led Talon/BM and just hit funny buttons.

It worked most of the time.

[foggy lodge]

HO❤️

[lofty tartan]

So many people forgot how Gale Wings and Dual Wingbeat worked into their Sneasler, and Blood Moon deletes people.

[solid frigate]

CLICK BUTTON GO BRERR

[dense latch]

having a comfort/safe lead is really helpful

[lofty tartan]

You sent something that doesn't handle TW/BM well? Woops

[cyan smelt]

I'm gonna stick with balance because it's clear from reg h part 1 and with my Blaziken team in reg h part 2 bo1 it's what I'm best at

[timber schooner]

Hi

[lofty tartan]

It was usually Talon/BM or Buzz/BM or Sneasler. Easy choices

[pure niche]

That comfort/safe lead is so important

[foggy lodge]

Fake out nasty plot/fake out swords dance/fake out calm mind❤️

[cyan smelt]

Think I might just lead blursa smeargle and hope for the best

[lofty tartan]

I do see a lot of the teams with Volc, you just lead it and do the things. Like you gotta make your opponent have the answer, and if they don't, then sucks for them

[dense latch]

fake out quiver dance protect switch to incin fake out quiver dance heat wave parting shot ❤️

[foggy lodge]

Mhm

A lot of the times you can just choose to not play the mindgames

[cyan smelt]

Or sneasler incin or sneasler rilla or rilla gholdengo or incin gholdengo

[foggy lodge]

Like I do my own and its on you to move the pieces

[lofty tartan]

You can overpredict your opponent. For sure.

Just disrespect your opponent's decisions. Easy.

[dense latch]

it might help to focus on your offensive pieces and think what tools they have to beat them

[solid frigate]

[dense latch]

if they don't, go nuts
if they do, can you remove them to make way for your offense? if not maybe drop them

[lofty tartan]

Tofu told me awhile ago to disrespect the player, not the teams. It's worked so far

Not like disrespect them, but essentially push your gameplan until your opponent forces you to change it. Force them to have it

I had gotten into a habit of overpredicting my opponent's plays so much that I outplayed myself.

[dense latch]

what the fuck is a game 2 adaptation i love repetition

[solid frigate]

All roads lead to tofu is kinda why I want to say lol

[bold geode]

Im guessing no announcement

[solid frigate]

Next month probably

[lofty tartan]

@bold geode

[dense latch]

that's an old screenshot

[lofty tartan]

It explains intention beyond November 1, and they have yet to say anything different

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/im-out-jump-out-bye-outta-here-gif-17539528

[foggy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/wes-fall-to-knees-scream-gif-27602552

[dense latch]

maybe they just drop it on us the day before

[lofty tartan]

So until they say anything different, I'm just gonna assume business as usual

[bold geode]

Chat I hate this

[lofty tartan]

Why?

[bold geode]

I fear that H is getting stale

[dense latch]

so close yet so far

[lofty tartan]

Sounds like a you problem.

[bold geode]

You enjoy this shi?

[lofty tartan]

SV is literally in the death cycle.

[bold geode]

Real

[dense latch]

whoever sdhsj and sh1k3 are pls just win a lot or lose a lot

[foggy lodge]

And the death cycle is being stretched like a chewing gum

[bold geode]

Champions can't come soon enough

[lofty tartan]

Like I don't get upset over regulations. I wasn't really upset over Reg G2 -- I just didn't enjoy the format. But actually wasting time on that? Nah. Not in my wheelhouse.

[foggy lodge]

That's bo3?

[dense latch]

i wish im a bo1 merchant

[foggy lodge]

Ah fair

Still pretty good

[lofty tartan]

Regulation H is the official competitive format thus far, and if you're not competing in official competitive formats, you can literally play whatever you like within provided means.

So you're not forced into playing Reg H.

[bold geode]

Yeah I just wish we had something else
Hell if H stays i might just stop after this coming GC

[lofty tartan]

You can play Randbats for all they care.

[solid frigate]

At least Reg G 2 make us get the hand of Restricteds again before double res

[lofty tartan]

Again, if you're not competing, that is something you can do.