I literally repeated history
#competitive_discussion
bold geode
mighty stump
LOL
bold geode
It was funny too cuz I used Palafin for it which is what I used in that GC back then
The story writes itself bro istg
mighty stump
what ruleset
mighty stump
Reg H aint so bad
bold geode
I'm definitely having more fun with it this time than last time, which is the opposite of what I expected
But tbf I think it's cuz of mentality and cuz I found something that actually damn well works
mighty stump
At this point in time I don’t doubt you’re probably better than me
bold geode
Also balance got good so
mighty stump
That’s not what I said
molten oasis
bold geode
At this point in time I don’t doubt you’re probably better than me
I doubt it
I feel like it'd be like a fuckin Deltarune situation if so like that meme where like
"Why'd you dodge"
mighty stump
I doubt it
I feel like it'd be like a fuckin Deltarune situation if so like that...
Lmfao
molten oasis
lol
mighty stump
I think as time goes on as you guys get better at the game ya’ll will realise I really am pretty average
molten oasis
Oh lmao, life’s busy huh
bold geode
Yeah
Tbh I don't even test like crazy myself anymore
mighty stump
Well soon enough we’ll be back at it again
And likely we’ll have a new wave of newbies
when Champions hits
molten oasis
My favorite!
bold geode
Yeah
Also honestly like
I feel like all my skill is just in the playing itself
Cuz like I feel like I lack a lot of general meta knowledge at times
mighty stump
I would have to say though Monke, in our position now we kinda have to get ahead of the crowd when things drop
So just bear that in mind
Considering you havent been a multi-gen helper yet
bold geode
Oh yeah I already know
molten oasis
You got work to do lol
bold geode
Bro I've been looking at that LZA comp chat in fear today
mighty stump
We have an LZA comp chat?
bold geode
Yeah
molten oasis
Why?
bold geode
It's open rn
mighty stump
What, where?
bold geode
🤷♂️
molten oasis
Well I guess there’s a comp for the starter megas
bold geode
There's an LZA section in the server
molten oasis
Which I still think is lame
molten oasis
Also I might lowkey pick emboar lol
mighty stump
Well
bold geode
Idk, tbh I have no idea how that meta is gonna remotely look like
Not from a knowledge standpoint but just from how it's actually gonna work in general
mighty stump
Lowkey idk if we’lm have anything to do with it tbh
molten oasis
Not liking feraligatr much
bold geode
Like idk how things will look going from turn based to real time
mighty stump
Well considering no abilities/moving shit
bold geode
Lowkey idk if we’lm have anything to do with it tbh
You know someone would ping comp helpers in there at some point LOL
foggy lodge
Hi tofu how ya doin
molten oasis
I’m gonna do a playthrough shiny hunt and wait for champions
bold geode
I mean honestly I wouldn't mind helping but like
It's also just a thing where like
I'm gonna be shit at it in the first few days of course
foggy lodge
Yeah me too
molten oasis
Probably not buying it day 1 tho
mighty stump
Yeah
foggy lodge
have you seen the small six team lol
mighty stump
have you seen the small six team lol
I assume hitboxes matter
bold geode
Like my honest worries are people hounding for advice Day 1
molten oasis
Sableye optimal?
bold geode
I assume hitboxes matter
Mega Dnite meta, insane melee weave movement tech
molten oasis
Lmao
bold geode
Oh Tofu did you see the base stats
mighty stump
Oh Tofu did you see the base stats
Send
molten oasis
Some suck but most are solid
bold geode
I'll send in DMs to not like
Unless your not spoiler free message still applies
mighty stump
I only care abt Emboar and Scolipede
mighty stump
I'll send in DMs to not like
Unless your not spoiler free message still applies
Always does
and its not me
Its always been that way
molten oasis
Scolipede and Emboar were decent I think
foggy lodge
X
molten oasis
Zygarde is a little nuts too
bold geode
I got shat on one day for mentioning that message
mighty stump
Zygarde always
mighty stump
I got shat on one day for mentioning that message
Bu who
mighty stump
What is it
bold geode
foggy lodge
And its not their attack
mighty stump
they made Dnite a Spatker
molten oasis
Yep
solid frigate
Drampa caught on my eye first
molten oasis
I’m excited for dragalge
mighty stump
Emboar sucks wtf
molten oasis
Bulky guy
mighty stump
Scolipede is mad meh
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
foggy lodge
holy shit this guy does suck
molten oasis
Yep lmao
foggy lodge
Scrafty also got parting shot
mighty stump
Dusclop level stats
solid frigate
It gets parting shot ggs
mighty stump
GGs
molten oasis
Wait its defenses are both 135???
molten oasis
solid frigate
Nah look at Dramp
Mega Drampa my beloved
mighty stump
Whi said Excadrill is okay with this
mighty stump
||Mega Starmie gets huge power||
he what
solid frigate
Whi said Excadrill is okay with this
Bro speed creeps Garchomp with that speed lol
mighty stump
wheres drampa
bold geode
Like in the end
mighty stump
i have doubles of the images idk why
molten oasis
Drampa’ really cool
bold geode
I probably did doubles
solid frigate
Shit wait
mighty stump
uhm
molten oasis
I do think berserk is accurate but nothing else
mighty stump
Drampa also not okay
solid frigate
mighty stump
No cap
molten oasis
That’s gonna be a gross tr Mon
bold geode
Yeah my main 5 are like
|| Clefable, Skarmory, Delphox, Drampa, Chandelure ||
mighty stump
Scrafty is probably a very splashable alternative to Incineroar now
solid frigate
Yeah no it can one shot Ursaluna if he has Berserk
bold geode
I think I heard that Scrafty also gets || Parting Shot || now?
mighty stump
Mega Greninja was unnecessary
molten oasis
I need to see the ability on Delphox
foggy lodge
I think I heard that Scrafty also gets || Parting Shot || now?
Yes
bold geode
Jesus
molten oasis
That’s a make or break for it, psychic surge would kick ass
mighty stump
To be fair
bold geode
I mean worse typing
foggy lodge
Now it has both fake out and parting shot
mighty stump
Depends on abilities
Some of these may end up being better if they have better abilities
foggy lodge
Yeah
molten oasis
Yeah
mighty stump
but yeah
molten oasis
Sucks we don’t know them
foggy lodge
The only ability we know is ||mega starmie's||
solid frigate
Greninja gets Nasty Plot but ummmm
Even with +2 bro can’t kill Flutter Mane in full 5 shuriken
bold geode
Some of these may end up being better if they have better abilities
Bro give || Clefable like Pixilate or Aerilate, holy shit ||
solid frigate
Without bulk
molten oasis
Victrebell looks kinda shit
foggy lodge
Aerilate
molten oasis
Aerilate would be better
foggy lodge
PLEASE BE AERILATE
bold geode
Pixilate wouldn't be horrible either
solid frigate
Victrebell looks kinda shit
Tbf it’s a mid Pokémon get a temporary upgrade to be a workable mon
Which is already generous enough
molten oasis
Serene Grace on dnite could be cool
mighty stump
Honestly depending, id watch out for Starmie on gimmick teams, Scrafty is metawatch, Drampa has potential to be on fraudwatch cause bear in mind they all have Mega Stones to hold
Like all of these mons r sacrificing items
solid frigate
Serene Grace on dnite could be cool
Air Slash Spam wooo
bold geode
I think Incineroar would still be better than Scrafty honestly
molten oasis
Well incin gets an item
mighty stump
I think Incineroar would still be better than Scrafty honestly
Only cause it doesn’t take up a mega slot
foggy lodge
Yeah that's why mega greninja is on fraudwatch for me
bold geode
Honestly depending, id watch out for Starmie on gimmick teams, Scrafty is metawa...
Idk I think considering it's probably a Hard TR sweeper, Sap Sipper or Berserk would be probably good and Cloud Nine also is useful in some cases
foggy lodge
It wants to hold the sash so bad
molten oasis
Delphox seems in a similar situation
mighty stump
Idk I think considering it's probably a Hard TR sweeper, Sap Sipper or Berserk w...
Depends on what other TR mons we have available
bold geode
Like sure when it megas it loses those but like
That means even in base you get some value
True
mighty stump
Well tbh
foggy lodge
Its the same thing as mega camerupt too like
foggy lodge
Yeah mega camerupt hits harder but just use torkoal
molten oasis
Wouldn’t it be good into torkoal?
solid frigate
We’ll see what abilities they have and hopefully the ones we like don’t have like trash Abilties
mighty stump
Drampa jumps to ny list
bold geode
Chandelure though Jesus, that thing probably is even good in natdex formats
molten oasis
It’s a special dragon
mighty stump
Wouldn’t it be good into torkoal?
heah cause if torkoal exists I have a good reason to run Drampa
molten oasis
Yep
molten oasis
It depends on its mega ability tho
foggy lodge
Does ||Mega Floette|| do anything
solid frigate
Drampa’s only bad Matchup in like low power formats is just Hatterene and that’s still a mid mon
molten oasis
But c9 sounds decent yeah
bold geode
Yeah
Sap Sipper good for Amoonguss, Cloud Nine for Mega Zard Y MUs
molten oasis
Oh true
bold geode
Also call me crazy but like
Mega Lucario, does it do anything
solid frigate
Yeah
Sap Sipper good for Amoonguss, Cloud Nine for Mega Zard Y MUs
Yeah just run those and you are fine
I think really just depends what do you want to cover
molten oasis
Also call me crazy but like
Mega Lucario, does it do anything
Its bulk is bad
I’m more looking forward to Lopunny
mighty stump
Mega Medicham
bold geode
Its bulk is bad
Yeah but it's worked in low power formats before at least
molten oasis
Scrappy buff and a bunch of movepool buffs is lit
bold geode
Plus Inner Focus Gen 8 buff is a bonus
molten oasis
Does medi have inner focus?
mighty stump
Yk what would fuck as a core
bold geode
My thing is like
Lopunny gets Intimidated before mega, Lucario doesn't
Neither does Kang
foggy lodge
Mega Kangaskhan is somehow more broken than the first time
mighty stump
Mega Metagross/Scrafty balance
foggy lodge
Scrappy and inner focus buff
bold geode
Metagross actually can be disgusting
foggy lodge
And it got power up punch back
molten oasis
Yeah I’m not looking forward to kang
bold geode
Mega Metagross has Heavy Slam and Psychic Fangs now
molten oasis
dense latch
they finally gave metagross good psychic stab
foggy lodge
And Kangaskhan is gonna be so broken in formats with CSR because it shits on CSR lmao
solid frigate
Yeah I am not liking to fight Chalk
bold geode
I'd run Chalk to the ground
molten oasis
I’m not interested in playing it
mighty stump
Well
forest arrow
CHALK
mighty stump
At the end of the day
molten oasis
I wanna use new megas
mighty stump
We can always depend on Urshifu
forest arrow
Hey tofu, hope you’re well 
molten oasis
Lmfao true
solid frigate
I’m just not gonna like to fight it but I can try it if I could
mighty stump
Hey tofu, hope you’re well <:GengHeart:674147120634396672>
I am healthy
solid frigate
Urshifu our GOAT
molten oasis
Oh yeah shifu in mega formats
dense latch
im excited to try out zard y
bold geode
Mega Zard Y is gonna have a fucking field day
mighty stump
I hope everyone trusts in the Tofu
molten oasis
That’ll be interesting
mighty stump
cant wait to pull out some fuckass shit
molten oasis
I still wish Delphox wasn’t speed crept by fucking fluttermane
forest arrow
Was Zard X any good or did Zard y ran the show
bold geode
cant wait to pull out some fuckass shit
Guys Mega Raichu X is meta trust
molten oasis
Y was good
solid frigate
I still wish Delphox wasn’t speed crept by fucking fluttermane
That 1 point of speed man
bold geode
Was Zard X any good or did Zard y ran the show
Zard X wasn't bad but like
Zard Y was like one of the top dogs
molten oasis
lol
solid frigate
Was Zard X any good or did Zard y ran the show
X was like not that great compare to Y iirc
It’s fine I guess
foggy lodge
THE DLC MEGAS ALSO GOT LEAKED LOL
molten oasis
Did they just get leaked?
mighty stump
THE DLC MEGAS ALSO GOT LEAKED LOL
send
foggy lodge
But idt we can share that here
mighty stump
send dm
foggy lodge
Oh well wait
molten oasis
Send in dm’s then
mighty stump
but idrc
forest arrow
I’ve seen them
mighty stump
Ntw
forest arrow
I think yall will be disappointed
molten oasis
That leak was wild
mighty stump
I heard tell tale Gen 9 mons is in PLZA
molten oasis
Just the entire leak lol
mighty stump
Is that true
forest arrow
Is that true
Yea
molten oasis
Yes
mighty stump
Arma?
foggy lodge
Well I think I can just send the image here
molten oasis
Idk if arma was one of them
mighty stump
Lame
forest arrow
No
mighty stump
Who
bold geode
I heard tell tale Gen 9 mons is in PLZA
Oh Tofu I gotta ask.
What you think of the drill mega
mighty stump
Ahyone I would care abt
foggy lodge
forest arrow
How do I do the spoiler thing
mighty stump
Oh Tofu I gotta ask.
What you think of the drill mega
Very hit or miss but Sand can go hard
foggy lodge
||Mega Heatran💀💀💀||
forest arrow
Nvm thanks max
molten oasis
MY GOAT ||GOLISPOD||
bold geode
Very hit or miss but Sand can go hard
See my thing is does it still get Rush
molten oasis
GOOD ABILITY PLEASE
mighty stump
See my thing is does it still get Rush
Depends
molten oasis
forest arrow
|| tastu || will be a problem
dense latch
i hope we get to see their abilities soon
bold geode
If it gets Rush, then itll be cracked
mighty stump
|| tastu || will be a problem
I am severely concerned
molten oasis
|| tastu || will be a problem
Dozo then the second phase like yay
dense latch
||i hope they don't fuck up garchomp again||
mighty stump
As if we needed more reason for Dozogiri to be worse
molten oasis
That’s gonna suck for doubles
solid frigate
|| tastu || will be a problem
I love how Tatsu literally got a Mega for no reason
bold geode
Also I'm sorry but Chesnaught is so wack
forest arrow
Dude no kidding, like give us a break with that archetype
mighty stump
Also I'm sorry but Chesnaught is so wack
rude
molten oasis
Oh also uh, heatran is wild
foggy lodge
Chimecho
forest arrow
Chesnaughts is one of the coolest wdym
mighty stump
Oh also uh, heatran is wild
CHALK
foggy lodge
My shaylaaaaa
mighty stump
BRO DID YOU SEE THE STATS
lemme see
molten oasis
Chalk with mega heatran and kang lol
forest arrow
heatran will add a new dynamic to chalk so that’s cool
molten oasis
Will lando t come back to power tho?
stone trellis
Oh also uh, heatran is wild
Post the stats in DMs.
molten oasis
We dunno the stats
stone trellis
Will lando t come back to power tho?
He will, trust.
forest arrow
Will lando t come back to power tho?
Are they in the game
foggy lodge
We don't have the stats of those
mighty stump
Post the stats in DMs.
Comp chat is spoiler zone anw
molten oasis
Are they in the game
Well I mean when champions happens
stone trellis
Lando-T was already good back in earlier regulations, right?
forest arrow
Well I mean when champions happens
Fair
molten oasis
Idk if lando t will come back into power
foggy lodge
Yeah it used to be good
bold geode
lemme see
Bro they literally made it a TR Zamazenta that passes away to a gentle breeze 
mighty stump
Lando-T when Chien Poo breathes
solid frigate
It would work when incin is like not here but like
INCIN IS LITERALLY IN THE TRAILER FOR CHAMPIONS
forest arrow
We love Chien Poo
mighty stump
Bro they literally made it a TR Zamazenta that passes away to a gentle breeze <:...
lemme aee
molten oasis
Chien Pao, oh yeah the shiny chien pao
I’ll get to use that in champions along with shiny dog
foggy lodge
I want to use Clef
mighty stump
They better have size variation in Champions istg
foggy lodge
I love clef so much
forest arrow
They’re gonna screw || staraptors || like they did pidgeot
bold geode
Oh I didn't post it hol up
foggy lodge
I need it to be good
mighty stump
Oh I didn't post it hol up
Thats why I kept asking
foggy lodge
I think it may play similar to Ogerpon
forest arrow
Scolipede my goat
mighty stump
I want drampa to be good
Depends on the context
molten oasis
Depends on ability ofc
mighty stump
Like idk
bold geode
Here Tofu
Also has Delphox and Chandy
mighty stump
A lot of these still feel overwstimated
molten oasis
I think it may play similar to Ogerpon
Most likely
mighty stump
EELEKTROS MY GOAT STILL SHIT
molten oasis
Delphox makes me sad
bold geode
LMAO
forest arrow
|| body press bot ||
mighty stump
unless it keeps Levitate
molten oasis
Jesus dude
bold geode
But Chesnaught is just weird
molten oasis
175 chandelure that’s is not okay
foggy lodge
Game freak stop trying to make mixed attackers work
solid frigate
I’m just like not sure about Greninja even with the Moveset buff
Drampa would be fun to play ig
molten oasis
Chesnaught is so bulky
forest arrow
Chesnaught has wide guard and body press those stats are crazy
molten oasis
That’s stab 172 body press
bold geode
Chesnaught is not okay
TR Zam bro
mighty stump
TR Zam bro
Honestly Grass type is rlly going for it considering
molten oasis
You ignore amoonguss
mighty stump
Spore/Rage Powder ignored
molten oasis
That’s huge
molten oasis
I think ches is gonna be good
forest arrow
Wait it’s slower than bear?
molten oasis
Raging bolt!
mighty stump
Stats are so fat its not going to care x4 weakness
bold geode
Honestly Grass type is rlly going for it considering
Yeah but like
Honestly I think I prefer Zama's Steel type a bit to cancel out Flying/Psychic weakness
solid frigate
I’m just gonna gaslight Monke on using mega Chesnaught
mighty stump
Pribably just want a counter to megamence or sth
forest arrow
stab grass into Luna and being slower than it is big
molten oasis
Koko?
mighty stump
stab grass into Luna and being slower than it is big
I mean you stab Fighting jnto Luna
bold geode
Idk I think Chesnaught ain't it
forest arrow
I mean you stab Fighting jnto Luna
Yeah I thought about that after I sent it lmao
bold geode
But Delphox?
molten oasis
Delphox eats shit to pao and flutter monke
foggy lodge
Zama Pao but Zama got nerfed
molten oasis
It’s really depends on ability
mighty stump
But otherwise if you enable Chesnaught i feel itll be annoying
molten oasis
If it keeps magician I’m gonna be pissed
mighty stump
Like how are you meant to remove this fat thing that wallops Mega Kang
bold geode
Like a lot of support
Yeah like maybe less TR and more protect the king?
mighty stump
Yeah like maybe less TR and more protect the king?
FWG/DFP core
foggy lodge
Do body press mons need fighting stab to work
bold geode
Probably wants a Steel type tbh
mighty stump
Just have sth stupidly fat going for it
foggy lodge
Hmm yeah
molten oasis
I think Aggron Slowbro and steelix have chances
foggy lodge
I HAVE MY NEW TECH WAIT
bold geode
Steel type and then like
Something to help with Mega Zard Y
molten oasis
I think Aggron Slowbro and steelix have chances
All get body press and have high defense
bold geode
Then again Mega Zard Y is probably like #1 menace anyways in general so
foggy lodge
Wolfey also got a video about megas that got buffed and I think it has some points
molten oasis
Lopunny and slowbro were my stand outs
forest arrow
Didnt kang get nerfed?
bold geode
Actually doesn't Chesnaught get WG?
forest arrow
It does
foggy lodge
Yes
bold geode
Didnt kang get nerfed?
Yeah but Scrappy also got buffed
foggy lodge
And got power up punch back
mighty stump
Corviknight tho
foggy lodge
Oh btw
mighty stump
Wait is Corvi in the game
foggy lodge
||Mega Skarmory looks cool its a good Corviknight||
mighty stump
||Mega Skarmory looks cool its a good Corviknight||
I’m gonna be real w u chief
This is a hot one
forest arrow
They just painted it wdym it’s a better Corviknight
foggy lodge
Maybe
bold geode
You think Skarmory is not it?
forest arrow
Corvi the goat
knotty mirage
When champions comes out which restricted legendary do you guys think will be nerfed ?
foggy lodge
I mean it has better stats but idk maybe Corvi having an item makes it better
mighty stump
You think Skarmory is not it?
Depends
foggy lodge
And not requiring the mega slot
molten oasis
Lmao
bold geode
Wait Tofu I gotta ask real quick
Does heightened crit chance get affected by Serene Grace?
mighty stump
Yeah Mirror Armor is too good
foggy lodge
Oh lmao
mighty stump
Wait Tofu I gotta ask real quick
Does heightened crit chance get affected by Ser...
What, you mean ability?
foggy lodge
I think its design is cool
molten oasis
It’s just bigger idk
mighty stump
No I’m pretty sure it shouldn’t lol
molten oasis
Scolipede kicks ass
mighty stump
That would be fuck insane
molten oasis
I actually really like emboar
bold geode
I was finna say Mega Dnite, give it Serene Grace LMAO
molten oasis
Compared to the other 2
mighty stump
Emboar has been absolved
molten oasis
Feraligatr is mid
forest arrow
Emboar is my fav of the 3
solid frigate
WTF have they done to Emboar’s stats man
bold geode
Tofu they gave Feraligatr a toilet seat to wear
molten oasis
Meganium is fine
forest arrow
feraligatr is great if it didn’t stay open.
molten oasis
The defense being low kinda sucks
mighty stump
Like I do not understand the balancing
molten oasis
And 75 speed is awkward
bold geode
What about Hawlucha
forest arrow
Rey mysterio
mighty stump
Probably gonna be average
Like its not bad
Its not good
Mega Evo means no Unburden
bold geode
My thing is what ability will it get cuz like yeah Unburden
mighty stump
unless I’m missing sth
foggy lodge
Hawlucha was 2 points away from speed tying Sneasler
mighty stump
Hawlucha was 2 points away from speed tying Sneasler
Sneasler would be better anw
foggy lodge
Now its gonna get dire claw para to death
mighty stump
Dire Claw RNG + FO is stupid
foggy lodge
ngl i hope they nerf dire claw
bold geode
Dire Claw RNG + FO is stupid
I started running Cloak Amoonguss for it LMFAO
foggy lodge
They need to nerf dire claw lol
molten oasis
I hope they nerf rage fist
foggy lodge
What are the odds of tri attack from getting something
mighty stump
I started running Cloak Amoonguss for it LMFAO
Always a fan of cloak amoonguss
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
stone trellis
What are the odds of tri attack from getting something
6,67% for each.
stone trellis
Even 30% would be better.
molten oasis
I haven’t been fucked over by dire claw much
stone trellis
Actually no, 30% is more like 90% most of the time.
bold geode
Always a fan of cloak amoonguss
Yeah
Damn near feels like it's immune to RNG
foggy lodge
I haven't been fucked by dire claw a lot just because most Sneaslers now don't run dire claw lmao
Instead I get fucked by Ninetales
stone trellis
I didn't see a single Amoonguss on stream during the regional that happened last weekend.
bold geode
Oh yeah Tofu idk if you missed it but we went back to the SD Acrobatics shit on Sneasler LMAO
foggy lodge
Amoonguss is super low rn
It only exists on rain and its not even on the best version of rain atm
molten oasis
Amoonguss kinda died
stone trellis
I kind of want to run the team the finalist used.
foggy lodge
Maybe it comes back on P2 Ursa balance
stone trellis
What was the gentleman's name?
bold geode
Not surprised
Yeah rn the best team is like
Incin Rilla
Sash A9
SD Acro Sneasler
Timid Life Orb Gholdengo with Plot
And last but not least
Tera Electric Yawn BM Ursaluna
foggy lodge
Torviv?
stone trellis
I remember him using Tera Ice A9.
mighty stump
Yeah rn the best team is like
Incin Rilla
Sash A9
SD Acro Sneasler
Timid Life Or...
Ursa what
molten oasis
Yes
foggy lodge
Yes its yawn bot ursa
molten oasis
That’s a real set right now
foggy lodge
Tera electric is for dengo
mighty stump
Oh
molten oasis
Steel resist
stone trellis
Tera Electric to live Make It Rain, yeah.
mighty stump
Fair enough
bold geode
Ursa what
LMAO yes
Yawn Lefties BM Ursa with Tera Electric and Blood Moon and EP for attacks
solid frigate
Electro shot ig
foggy lodge
Most ursas now are built to survive the shadow ball +2 from lorb dengo
mighty stump
Fair enough
bold geode
The AV sets do run like Water or Fire now
foggy lodge
Neutrals and Grass?
Yeah its for dengo rilla basically
stone trellis
This seems like one of the only Reg H teams I'd actually enjoy using.
mighty stump
Most ursas now are built to survive the shadow ball +2 from lorb dengo
My Ursa could live Hydro Pump from Iron Bungle at the time I made it
molten oasis
I’m in between teams atm
mighty stump
Ngl
foggy lodge
Having the faster blursa om the mirror gives you a super big advantage
mighty stump
I’m confident in a lot of my sets
Cause I made them ridiculous enough to last the ages
bold geode
Cause I made them ridiculous enough to last the ages
Oh
Also Scyther and Garg and Sylveon won a regional
mighty stump
Oh
Also Scyther and Garg and Sylveon won a regional
I heard
foggy lodge
Oh god yes
molten oasis
That team was wild
bold geode
The Maranga berry Garganacl
foggy lodge
CLEAR AMULET INCIN MADE TOP 8 LAST WEEK
mighty stump
The Maranga berry Garganacl
I was alwwys a fan of Kee/Maranga Berry
foggy lodge
Clam Incin with close combat
bold geode
It's so damn funny honestly
molten oasis
This format isn’t real
mighty stump
CLEAR AMULET INCIN MADE TOP 8 LAST WEEK
I’m gonna assume this also had to do w the mirror and preventing Parting Shots
Remember Tera Fighting Incin guys
foggy lodge
It was on a hard TR team
bold geode
Hmm what else
Oh Pittsburgh
2nd place went to CM Sinistcha and Hariyama
molten oasis
Oh my god I do
molten oasis
Horoark is kinda real
mighty stump
Horoark is kinda real
I will forever be a Horoark hater and denier
stone trellis
What the hell is Tera Fighting Incin used for, a joke in the comments of a Wolfey vid?
molten oasis
lol
bold geode
I will forever be a Horoark hater and denier
Just got top 8 at Milwaukee and was in Day 2 as well
mighty stump
What the hell is Tera Fighting Incin used for, a joke in the comments of a Wolfe...
My genius that no one comprehends
bold geode
It was Wolfe though so
molten oasis
Because of Wolfe
mighty stump
Just got top 8 at Milwaukee and was in Day 2 as well
I’m still a denier
mighty stump
I have never bandwagoned something just because it got top x
bold geode
I think Yuki also Day 2'd with it
foggy lodge
Forces 50/50s since turn 1
molten oasis
It’s annoying
bold geode
Oh same
I'm bandwagoning Palafin bro
foggy lodge
Like its good for a player like Wolfey that can force those 50/50s and get them right
molten oasis
The palafin cope is smth else
bold geode
Oh Tofu you wanna know something funny
foggy lodge
Also chlorophyll whimsicott made top cut https://pokepast.es/6847b4edc36c8420
molten oasis
Still kinda wanna mess with flamigo
mighty stump
Like its good for a player like Wolfey that can force those 50/50s and get them ...
Then again I make teams that restrict options so idrc abt 50/50s
My gameplan moves forward irregardless
bold geode
My gameplan moves forward irregardless
Baby Palafin needs Tera Stellar to one shot a Kingambit with CC that hasn't tera'd or got a defense boost
mighty stump
Also chlorophyll whimsicott made top cut https://pokepast.es/6847b4edc36c8420
Okay I have to hear thjs
foggy lodge
Idk what does chlorophyll do LMAO
molten oasis
That’s a normal Ninetales
mighty stump
Idk what does chlorophyll do LMAO
Oh
foggy lodge
Not even Jumpluff its fucking Whimsicott
bold geode
Not the Chlorophyll Whimsicott
mighty stump
It already will speedtie/outspeed things in against Prankster Whimsi and then have effective x3 Spe
after “matching TWs”
So ig the advantage is there?
Idk
foggy lodge
Maybe?
mighty stump
Offensively I suppose
bold geode
Anyways
Eject Pack Palafin, my precious
foggy lodge
Well chlorophyll is good to encore dark types
mighty stump
Sorry, effective x4
mighty stump
Which is fine but surely
bold geode
Oh yeah forgot about the Espathra Psyspam HO
mighty stump
Baby Palafin needs Tera Stellar to one shot a Kingambit with CC that hasn't tera...
Lul
I mean non-STAB
bold geode
Yeah
Funny thing though is that I rip it and it works like 90-95% of the time
mighty stump
Well
molten oasis
I didn’t have the same experience lol
mighty stump
Go big or go home
molten oasis
The people I fight protect their gambits a lot lol
foggy lodge
Also Porygon2 is dead in this meta
bold geode
I mean Eject Pack so like
You KO the Kingambit, activate Pack, swap out
foggy lodge
The only Porygon2 team rn is the Ursa Hydreigon variant
And maybe it revives with Marco's team
bold geode
I think it's funny, especially in GC
bold geode
Go big or go home
OH ACTUALLY I forgot to tell you this about Reg I
Did you see the Ho Oh at Worlds 
mighty stump
Did you see the Ho Oh at Worlds <:KekCry:1251294703102464020>
No
solid frigate
yeah that single ho-oh got into top cut
foggy lodge
It was the only Ho-Oh in the whole tournament
bold geode
So after Milwaukee
I was preaching that Ho Oh was still good but had to have the right circumstances but no one believed me
foggy lodge
And it got top 16
bold geode
One fucking guy brought Ho Oh, completely out of MU fishing and got top 16
bold geode
Bro it was so fuckin funny
foggy lodge
I think they lost in top 16 to a Zama CSR LMAO
mighty stump
I have no comment
foggy lodge
The Ho-Oh had to eat a +3 life orb astral barrage
bold geode
Yeah they had 2 losses to CSR Zam out of like
7-8
foggy lodge
It didn't live it and they lost
bold geode
Idk it was crazy
Like personally I don't really like MU fishing like that but there it actually worked
mighty stump
rigged
foggy lodge
Tbf
Ho-Oh does stuff outside of being good into Zama CSR
It was also a loaded dice koraidon btw
It was a tera water clam Ho-Oh with a loaded dice korai
solid frigate
we are giving tofu more migraine with the Ho-Oh in Top cut
foggy lodge
I suppose they don't pick Ho-Oh into Miraidon if its tera water Ho-Oh
bold geode
So like
Giovanni Cischke vs Hirofumi Kimura Top 4 right
Gio won still but like
The Smeargle Hirofumi was using needed a fuckin drug test
foggy lodge
+6 SPEED SMEARGLE
bold geode
YEAH IT KEPT GETTING SPEED BOOSTS LEFT AND RIGHT
solid frigate
+6 SPEED SMEARGLE
i forgot when was the time thhat me and monke laughed so fucking damn hard
solid frigate
that game 2 james evans comeback is insane
mighty stump
we are giving tofu more migraine with the Ho-Oh in Top cut
well this is my cue to say byebye for the noght and turn in
it was fun seeing everyone again
You will see me shortly yet again
bold geode
well this is my cue to say byebye for the noght and turn in
Lol
Bro didn't like bird
Have a good night my man
molten oasis
Night tofu
forest arrow
Nighty night tofu
real prairie
I think clarify that we’re mainline game helpers
Good time to rename the chat VGC discussion and make you all VGC helpers (and me whenever the applications are reviewed 😭)
solid frigate
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2462478136-b51c6ebwo0lessepcj...
That’s not him
Probably monke’s inner ego
dense latch
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2462478136-b51c6ebwo0lessepcj...
i lost to this like a week or two ago 😭 not my proudest moment
rustic mountain
lmfao
forest arrow
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2462478136-b51c6ebwo0lessepcj...
I don’t see a palafin
lol
All of Monkes alts are just a random word with Monke added to the end of it lol
bold geode
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2462478136-b51c6ebwo0lessepcj...
Nah that's the man that I called #supershit
molten oasis
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2462478136-b51c6ebwo0lessepcj...
I’ve fought that guy before
Kinda annoying team
bold geode
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2462478136-b51c6ebwo0lessepcj...
Bro hell nah
Rillaboom dying to Wave Crash smh
craggy dagger
Nah that's the man that I called #supershit
bold geode
<:ZetaMEM_Bonk:1007315690841190461>
craggy dagger
bold geode
craggy dagger
i just did 
bold geode
i just did <:MumeiPout:906315857339232286>
Nuh Uh
Oh the other day I hit my manager with the barrage of Nuh Uhs
bold geode
Oh the other day I hit my manager with the barrage of Nuh Uhs
@molten oasis
molten oasis
Lmao
bold geode
No you know what's funny
They went "you just can't say Nuh Uh to everything" and I just was like
molten oasis
https://tenor.com/view/evil-grin-evil-evil-smile-devious-gif-6415346156262007236
“Nuh uh”
molten oasis
Lmfao
bold geode
i smell like oranges…
Stimky oranges
solid frigate
lmfao
left bobcat
Brooo did yall see the official stat distribution for mega dragonite?
lofty tartan
bold geode
data leak technically isnt official
It's on Serebii now
chrome knot
@craggy dagger noba
craggy dagger
<@541037106496012290> noba
emma
chrome knot
howdy
craggy dagger
hiya
chrome knot
hru
bold geode
<@541037106496012290> noba
Hi Emma
bold geode
ur on serebii now
real prairie
Morning
timber falcon
what speed does a gholdengo in reg H usually run?
chrome knot
149
waxen dock
Some run 136
real prairie
what speed does a gholdengo in reg H usually run?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CgGA-iSV_fOv1xiD9ePFeRVHxFVCs6gRPsAbH0SqXn4/edit?gid=0#gid=0
timber falcon
Gracias
real prairie
Tremendous thread: https://x.com/Juampi_Cambon15/status/1978643577115701605
X
chrome knot
goodbye
timber falcon
Dragonite @ Loaded Dice
Ability: Inner Focus
Level: 50
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 196 Atk / 28 Def / 28 SpD / 4 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Scale Shot
- Stomping Tantrum
- Protect
- Dragon Dance
would appreciate any input into this set, i hate calcing but ive made it to live nasty plot MIR
bold geode
Dragonite @ Loaded Dice
Ability: Inner Focus
Level: 50
Tera Type: Steel
...
You really only just wanna do that with your Tera Steel option
These sets usually go like Scale Shot with max speed max attack or close to max attack with hardly any bulk and use the Multiscale ability along with moves like Haze or TW
timber falcon
interesting, i wasnt sure if people used scale shot. Why would people run haze though?
im not aware of any potential dangerous set up mons i may face apart from dengo
is dragon dance not used?
dense latch
is dragon dance not used?
no
dense latch
interesting, i wasnt sure if people used scale shot. Why would people run haze t...
dondozo, other dnite/physical threats + coaching, annihilape bulk up, can be useful when you don’t want the speed increase from scale shot and want the def drops off
timber falcon
Alright so dragonite isn’t a sweeper in this meta
rustic mountain
no, its more for chunking things, outspeeding stuff and supporting ur teammates w/ tw and haze w/ the added speed
bold geode
interesting, i wasnt sure if people used scale shot. Why would people run haze t...
Dozo and other stuff
Tbh Dnite with Scale kind of works more like a support in a way unless you got Coaching support
D Dance is never used
timber falcon
well there goes my plans out the window
craggy dagger
hru
uh
hi i’m doing good-
sorry i didn’t respond 😭
got caught up in some things into playing za 
hbu-
hru doin
stone trellis
Not to be mean, but sometimes the people who type like this sound like they're RPing 24/7.
shadow wind
Someone else finally gets it
stone trellis
Someone else finally gets it
?
stone trellis
Incin after seeing the Urshifu who's holding Protective Pads (who's laughing now bitch?):
molten oasis
lol
bold geode
Not to be mean, but sometimes the people who type like this sound like they're R...
Hru UwU :3
stone trellis
Hru UwU :3
May Jesus forgive you when the day of judgement comes, because I don't have it in me to do so.
short quiver
I HEAVE PURCHASED LEGENDS ZA
left bobcat
I HEAVE PURCHASED LEGENDS ZA
Hooray
upper zealot
I HEAVE PURCHASED LEGENDS ZA
nice
knotty drift
trying to make a meloetta team for reg J what would yall say is the meta pokemon for this reg and any really good parners for mel havent played in seasons and just trying to get my brain turning
solid frigate
there really isn't
I love meloetta but its ass-
knotty drift
i know
but doesn't mean i cant make it work
not looking for the best team in the world
solid frigate
If you want to ask about meta Pokémon you can look at Regulation I Teams
short quiver
trying to make a meloetta team for reg J what would yall say is the meta pokemo...
all i have to say is dont bother with relic song.
hypervoice is better in basically every way
summer shore
Once champs drops n showdown updates its over my frog king is back
knotty drift
all i have to say is dont bother with relic song.
Yeah I ain’t touching that move
foggy lodge
X
knotty mirage
Excadrill dragonite and clefairy hmm
real prairie
Clefable 🙂
Clefable suddenly really good into T-tar teams with its mega changing it to a flying type follow me user for Champions i guess
and you have the option of Mega Sandrush Excadrill
knotty mirage
Oh mega clefable is flying/fairy that's neat
So is it like better togekiss by any chance ?
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
craggy dagger
https://x.com/JoeUX9/status/1979048063210590469
it’s not that hard tbh lol
and i haven’t even finished the game 😭
stealth rocks 
hollow echo
short quiver
So is it like better togekiss by any chance ?
the dragon slayer had been powercrept
is the za ranked battles the same as the in story battles
i do NOT like this combat style
short quiver
for the wuwa players
raven haven
Competitively is it a good idea to run bellydrum on cetitan? Even with speed/slush rush it just feels like it’d get one shot after taking 50% damage
short quiver
Competitively is it a good idea to run bellydrum on cetitan? Even with speed/slu...
you can use a sitrus berry maybe 🤷♂️
belly drum, drop to half, eat the berry, boom
raven haven
belly drum, drop to half, eat the berry, boom
I don’t play competitive much think it’d be able to tank something from 70%ish Hp?
Assuming it has no ev’s in hp/def/sp def
short quiver
idk i dont use cetitan
dense latch
Competitively is it a good idea to run bellydrum on cetitan? Even with speed/slu...
you’re right about that last part
cetitan is just not good at all, setting it up isn’t worth what it gives back
even with like redirection gholdengo is crazy popular and it's just gonna force out a tera, doubt it'll last long after that too
bold geode
primal saddle
https://pokepast.es/d1df37d8743b4a6c hey does this anti meta tailroom team suck?
bold geode
hoping Indianapolis gets confirmed too
Think it did? Might wanna check
foggy lodge
https://pokepast.es/d1df37d8743b4a6c hey does this anti meta tailroom team suck?
Why does the paste look like that
stone trellis
He didn't capitalise 90% of the words.
He wrote everything directly into Pokepaste instead of creating a team paste straight from the Showdown teambuilder.
mighty stump
seems mildly worse ngl consider Mega Clef would be no item and Togekiss gets to have one
short quiver
seems mildly worse ngl consider Mega Clef would be no item and Togekiss gets to ...
we also dk the ability for it yet
unless we do and i specifically don’t
dense latch
we don't
left bobcat
We don’t?
molten oasis
We don’t know any of the abilities
cyan smelt
How's mega malamar looking
left bobcat
How's mega malamar looking
Ahhhhhhh 🥀
foggy lodge
How's mega malamar looking
Terrible
Good design but its stats are horrible
It would need an ability like hadron engine to be usable
steep charm
mega Scrafty
foggy lodge
Mega gengar
molten oasis
Mega Lucario
dense latch
Mega scizor
left bobcat
Mega dragonite
craggy dagger
How's mega malamar looking
close combat 
real prairie
seems mildly worse ngl consider Mega Clef would be no item and Togekiss gets to ...
Yeah I did say "stat wise" haha
real prairie
We don’t know any of the abilities
Only mega Starmie's
stone trellis
Which is?
solid frigate
Huge power
stone trellis
Why?
knotty drift
when Hadron Engine is on is it like plus 1
i am trying to do damage calc with neutralizing gas
nvm
solid frigate
Why do we know or why did they choose it?
The unusual stat buff
Usually Mega Pokémon have 100 stat increase
Starmie Has 140
And Mega Mawile lost Huge Power got an attack increase
foggy lodge
X
stone trellis
Why do we know or why did they choose it?
Why did they choose it?
real prairie
The unusual stat buff
Yeah I know, was asking Paul what his question was
summer shore
Just got robbed live on stream in a roomtour
solid frigate
https://x.com/LikelyLikey_/status/1979435511191113753
LMFAO
polar canyon
Officially fallen out of love with competitive again‼️ I'm sure I'll be grinding showdown vgc ladder in like exactly 3 months
What's stuff been like tho
I saw something about even more weird mons winning regionals
Oricorio golduck
I almost wanna try something with jumpluff koal again now
dense latch
Oricorio golduck
that didn't win, did go 8-4 tho iirc
stone trellis
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2464225939
The weakened form of the hellspawn which terrorised VGC 2016 bitchslaps George VI.
foggy lodge
I almost wanna try something with jumpluff koal again now
Joey updated his team
Now its a tera electric pluff lmao
foggy lodge
So like are we still playing this for VGC for a bit?
Sadly yes
shadow wind
🥀
foggy lodge
Another format please I can't take this format anymore
shadow wind
Are people running AV Incin nowadays?
shadow wind
foggy lodge
Are people running AV Incin nowadays?
Yes
shadow wind
Shucks
Also that team I sent
Anything look terrible?
I'm not going for rank 1 I'm just wanting to create teams and have them do somewhat well
Like it's end of a generation I'm not very invested
After playing a few games I've decided this format is hot garbage
For like the 18th time I'm realizing this
molten oasis
shadow wind
How do you all feel about challenge cup 1v1s
Why am I fighting #1 on the randbats ladder on challenge cup 1v1
😭
polar canyon
Joey updated his team
I've been a torkoal pluff fan before it was popular does that make me cool
bold geode
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9ou-2464202841-py6a5bp6cqrqijxnd4ykssql47m...
Wait how are they in Showdown without abilities
summer shore
Wait how are they in Showdown without abilities
Super secret codingtons
Still mad about that one btw
I was ROBBED
Smogon Tournament Player Privilege
bold geode
Super secret codingtons
Did someone actually figure out the official abilities or
summer shore
No they are just abilityless
bold geode
I see
solid frigate
Insert Iron Head Flinches
bold geode
I was finna say send mfer
summer shore
My goat the Frog is just built like that
bold geode
Like if the abilities were out I NEED TO KNOW LOL
summer shore
That gunk shot was gonna do 60-80 btw
bold geode
I mean the frog is fast as balls
bold geode
That's fucking speed tying Dragapult
summer shore
😭
summer shore
That's fucking speed tying Dragapult
It is also strong
Not delphox but
Strong enough
bold geode
I'm guessing Delphox is strong as fuck
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
bold geode
Yeah it's faster with the same Spatk
Though Delphox doesn't have Drought
Is it just like Zard Y is banned so
summer shore
My body is a machine that turns triple dark offense into balance
bold geode
Lol
bold geode
Real
summer shore
Sun...
bold geode
So Delphox is just that fuckin crazy
summer shore
159/134 with access to nasty plot is already good
Add the potential ability we dunno bout
Even sth simple like psychic surge would be insanity
dense latch
tapu lele except it actually gets eforce
bold geode
I don't think Psychic Surge is simple for it but yeah Psychic Surge would be broken
Literally could set up Psychic terrain even after some shit like Rillaboom comes in
bold geode
Jesus
I'm thinking like
Especially depending on ability
Idk about natdex or definitely not restricted but in lower power formats, Mega Delphox would go hard in the paint
dense latch
maybe they go the magic route and do magic guard/bounce
which would kinda suck in vgc maybe in singles it's better
bold geode
For VGC it would be good
Only way they could fuck up Mega Delphox is if they give it like Levitate
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
solid frigate
For VGC it would be good
Only way they could fuck up Mega Delphox is if they gi...
Honestly it would be depressing if they do that like how they butchered the lake trio lol
dense latch
it's a fine ability i just think it would go a bit to waste on delphox
molten oasis
Levitate would suck ass
dense latch
essentialy status immunity is great tho now that i think abt it
bold geode
Yeah Magic Bounce wouldn't be horrible at all
summer shore
Why does it get toxic still
dense latch
hopefully not magic guard tho
summer shore
Oh my
molten oasis
Uhm
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
bold geode
Yikes yeah eh
summer shore
MGuard would be insane as well
dense latch
it would be a decent ability on regular delphox over magician for life orb recoil removal
summer shore
Mon has 1 weakness in rocks
molten oasis
Hm
bold geode
Yeah singles but in doubles that's pretty much useless
dense latch
i think there's a decent chance for that too
bold geode
I could see them making new abilities
Though I'm also just willing to bet more that the new megas just get existing abilities
summer shore
Maybe a pixelate type ability
They only do this for mons with perceived move pool weaknesses
dense latch
maybe serene grace? idk
solid frigate
Maybe a pixelate type ability
Is there any normal moves that Delphox would be fine to use tho
bold geode
They only do this for mons with perceived move pool weaknesses
Then why the fuck does Primarina get Liquid Voice LOL
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
dense latch
yea delphox already has what it needs stab wise
bold geode
maybe serene grace? idk
Give this to Mega Dnite
dense latch
60% hurricane confusion lol
solid frigate
Give this to Mega Dnite
Yeah no we are seeing Air Slash Dnite bullshit lmao
dense latch
or air slash 60% flinch
summer shore
Then why the fuck does Primarina get Liquid Voice LOL
Its not mega primarina so it doesnt get those privileges
bold geode
60% hurricane confusion lol
Nah
You just use Air Slash
bold geode
Brother what
dense latch
yea my head just went to hurricane first it came around eventually
let that ability rot with mega pidgeot
solid frigate
if you fought air slash togekiss in earlier Gens
you know how annoying it is
Shiro would know i think
dense latch
it makes sense design wise kinda
bold geode
Yeah but No Guard Draco Meteor? Wtf
solid frigate
btw its 145 SpA Air Slash with Serene Grace
Anything Neutral could get chunked,once you flinched EVEN ONE TIME
really just in danger on being knocked out
bold geode
No Guard Draco
No Guard Hurricane
No Guard Air Slash
summer shore
Only one that is like relevant is the hurricane
foggy lodge
Serene grace airlsash clefable
solid frigate
i used Air Slashh Togekiss in OU before i know how bullshit it is
foggy lodge
Welcome back Togekiss
dense latch
serene grace + 30% flinch moves are a recipe for disaster honestly
summer shore
btw its 145 SpA Air Slash with Serene Grace
Anything Neutral could get chunked,...
It can just go air slash roost dd +1 and win
solid frigate
It can just go air slash roost dd +1 and win
exactly-
summer shore
You're not killing it
dense latch
i don't consume much singles but i've heard about gen 3-4 jirachi iron head shit
solid frigate
You're not killing it
Serene Grace Iron Head Jumpscare
