competitive_discussion

[bold geode]

[craggy dagger]

OW

i just wanted to say hi :(

[signal glen]

You know what...I'ma make Cynthia's team and go fight people and give em ptsd

[stone trellis]

For VGC?

[stone trellis]

Which version, the Lucario-Garchomp-Spiritomb-Togekiss-Roserade-Milotic one?

[signal glen]

Wait.. is gastrodon in violet?

[stone trellis]

It is.

[visual flume]

Bro im doing the grand challenge and im in good position to possibly win a match and my switch overheated and shut off

[next stump]

😦 RIP

[real prairie]

Someone just won a Pittsburg local with it lol

[real prairie]

pain

[visual flume]

Yes

I just opened youtube and called it a day

[real prairie]

Feel you

im bricking it about Tomorrow now lol

just know the bottle is going to be legendary

and i know 3/4 losses i could have won with better piloting today too

the scarf F-indeedee drain punch tera dark weakness policy weak armor Armorouge with max speed max attack close combat Incin i was never winning

went into it with leads ready for hard TR and it was a full on bluff

sometimes you just have to hold your hands up to the GC cheese

[visual flume]

Yeah closed team sheet is so hard when they run teams that are theoretically suboptimal

But only work when you dont know what it is

[real prairie]

yeah pure gimmick

if i lead with Ludicolo and Politoed id have won straight away with double muddy waters

instead i got cooked

[visual flume]

I ran into a tera electric ursaluna blood moon and I didnt bring anything for it

[real prairie]

thats not a gimmick though, it won a regional last week

[visual flume]

Did it?

[real prairie]

yeah.

[visual flume]

Oh dang I had never seen tera electric ursa once

[foggy lodge]

Leftovers?

Its pretty common rn

[real prairie]

https://pokepast.es/ca3e078f5fa4db4b

Tera fire one then one the next regional lol

[visual flume]

I played on showdown and violet before the gc and never saw it

[visual flume]

Yeah

[foggy lodge]

Volcarona cooks this team so hard

The only thing that can hit is the acrobatics on Sneasler lol

Electabuzz Volcarona Gambit and I think you cook that MU

[plush lark]

I've seen a good amount of ursaluna run speed investment to outspend in tailwind. Does anyone know what a common speed tier for that is?

[foggy lodge]

It usually hits 84-86

Some run even like 252 speed but those are very uncommon

[plush lark]

Hmm. I want my zama to outspeed, but that'd take a lot of investment

I could do a jolly nature, that helps

[real prairie]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CgGA-iSV_fOv1xiD9ePFeRVHxFVCs6gRPsAbH0SqXn4/edit?gid=0#gid=0

[foggy lodge]

Wait its for reg J

Idt Ursa runs any speed investment in reg J

[plush lark]

Interesting

[real prairie]

It can do, its just not that common

but the spreads will be the same as Reg G and in that spreadsheet

[plush lark]

Is it worth investing in speed for my zama or bulk?

[real prairie]

Blursa is more likely to have speed investment

[rose kiln]

Allo people

[real prairie]

Zamazenta-Crowned @ Rusted Shield
Ability: Dauntless Shield
Level: 50
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 236 HP / 4 Atk / 116 Def / 100 SpD / 52 Spe
Impish Nature

• Body Press
• Protect
• Wide Guard
• Heavy Slam

[rose kiln]

I need a lil help

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/how-may-i-help-you-lance-reddick-charon-john-wick-chapter3parabellum-you-need-help-gif-17469539

[rose kiln]

I wanna build an urshifu team but i have No idea whos the best partner And which are good teams

[plush lark]

Rapid or single?

[rose kiln]

Whats rapid

[plush lark]

Water form

[rose kiln]

Yes water form

[plush lark]

I like Chien pao as a partner, personally

[real prairie]

There are lots of different options, Take a look here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1axlwmzPA49rYkqXh7zHvAtSP-TKbM0ijGYBPRflLSWw/edit?gid=736919171#gid=736919171

Scarf mode, Sash mode, bulky mystic water mode, Slow TR mode

[rose kiln]

I cant open it 🥀

[real prairie]

unusual

[rose kiln]

Maybe my phones Just badd

[real prairie]

if you can, try on a computer

[rose kiln]

Oge

[real prairie]

or you can look here: https://labmaus.net/teams

filter by pokemon and competition type and placement

[cyan smelt]

So I looked at the vgc repository, nothing with Blaziken but it seems that gliscor appreciates either tailwind or screens

Maybe I just replace Blaziken with sneasler if I'm struggling with sneasler and ninetales

[bold geode]

Gliscor should not struggle with Sneasler

[cyan smelt]

Well my team is somehow

Maybe it's the partners, rillaboom and indeedee

[ocean pawn]

i had both my garchomp and ttar win a 1v3

[cyan smelt]

Ttar is such a good pick this reg I think

It's pretty good into all opposing weather

[next stump]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2454820067

XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

[left bobcat]

Really?

[fair holly]

Are Kyurem and Necrozma allowed in ranked and are they good?

Which one is better?

And they can be fused in ranked? which fusion is better overall?

[molten oasis]

The scarf Peli damn

[modest drum]

Could a team focused around ogrepon (water mask) work? If so what could that look like

[split wyvern]

hey guys my local event got cancelled today anyone wanna double battle, Reg H?

[waxen dock]

why is your local in the the day of the gc?

[next stump]

there’s always locals on the weekends

there’s even regionals on the days of GCs

[split wyvern]

^^

[waxen dock]

why?

[real prairie]

One day I'll eventually not bottle my day 2. Today is not that day

[cyan smelt]

I'm feeling relaxed and I'm away for the weekend at a place I enjoy, I figured out I put way too much pressure on myself

I'll play some gc before I go to bed at not worry how I do

[real prairie]

I've shat all over my day 1 now

Lost 6 today now I think

[jade dust]

Perish song KOs through focus sash right?

And sturdy

[real prairie]

Yeah

[jade dust]

Good

[real prairie]

Finished today 8-7

[waxen dock]

me too ig

i think now im 18-12

defenitly not what i planned

[real prairie]

After getting no mirrors yday I had 4 today and 3 A9 balance

[jade dust]

Bruh why did they give him the win

I know, turn 36 lmfao

More than 20 turns was Dozo vs Dozo

[waxen dock]

you probably ran out of time

i just hate those mirrors

[jade dust]

I mean I was selecting my moves as fast as possible

And yeah it was a pain in the ass

Both Dozos dealing laughable damage to each other and healing from leftovers

[cyan smelt]

Damn I threw in my first match

Lost second game to sinistcha tr

I'm bout to give up on this gc

Everyone has answers to archaludon rain

I've lost 3 in a row now

Ok I finally won one

Second game got a disconnect, lame

Playing indeedee and rilla and sneasler now

I won again

I won again

Damn I lost to a dachsbun team

Lost to a dachsbun team

Lost again

I don't like this team

[waxen dock]

Another person who had a bad day in gc

[cyan smelt]

Hopefully I can win some more

[waxen dock]

Hope too

Whats your score?

[cyan smelt]

Next time I'm leading ludicolo arch into mausape

No idea but lost more than I won

[waxen dock]

So less than 1500?

[cyan smelt]

Yes I suck

[waxen dock]

In 3rd grand challenge i had a very good run

In 4th i used the same team but worse results

In 1st gc i used my team got 75 points

In this gc i use the same team and i have bad run

I see a pattern here

[waxen dock]

Did you use the same team?

From gc 1

[cyan smelt]

And I'm losing again, this time to eject button indeedee

No

I hate this gc crap

[exotic grotto]

You're really skilled at Pokémon! Your final day of the tournament is still not done yet! Anything can happen, so give your best, and you may be able to get a really good performance!

[cyan smelt]

Now I lost the game turn 1

[exotic grotto]

Don't give up too soon! Try to find ways to win the battle!

[cyan smelt]

No, I lost

I friggin hate ttar and torkoal and ursaluna

[exotic grotto]

Sorry that it didn't go as planned! I hope you perform better in the rest of your battles!

[knotty mirage]

I have question what currently the best tera for incin ? i'm thinking of bug but it still makes it weak too rock or meteor beam

[waxen dock]

Ill try

[exotic grotto]

The Bug Tera Type is really good for Incineroar! Alternatively, you can use Ghost Tera Type!

[waxen dock]

Ghost and if not ggogles grass

[knotty mirage]

I'm using AV incin actually

[exotic grotto]

Good luck and have fun!

[waxen dock]

So bug

[cyan smelt]

Now I disconnected because my game card popped out

[exotic grotto]

I'm really sorry that happened to you...

[knotty mirage]

[waxen dock]

In the last game i had 1% even tho i connected charger so i prayed i didnt lose battery but luckily i managed to win

[waxen dock]

Meteor beam is so niche

[jade dust]

When is the grand challenge?

[cyan smelt]

Well when things aren't going well for you they aren't going well for you ig lol

[waxen dock]

Tofday

[jade dust]

Ou

[waxen dock]

Today

[knotty mirage]

All lunala i fought literaly have them

[jade dust]

Alright I’ll play later

[waxen dock]

Oh

I tought you meant reg h

[waxen dock]

Did you sign up?

[jade dust]

Yes

With my Dozo team

[waxen dock]

In j grass prolly

[exotic grotto]

Good luck in the tournament! Play to the best of your capabilities!

[knotty mirage]

Oh no i playing on reg J

[waxen dock]

What bout you?

[knotty mirage]

Hmm

[waxen dock]

But if you are running mirai idk

Since you are immune to spore

[knotty mirage]

Just wondering than can AV incin survive meteor beam from lunala ?

[bold geode]

Yes

[waxen dock]

Probably yes

But non av no

[bold geode]

AV Incin can survive that
Hell it can survive Specs E Drift

[knotty mirage]

Ah okay i will try bug then hopefully i don't see much lunala when pusing

[waxen dock]

Grass is also good

[knotty mirage]

How many sp def i need too invest too incin tho ?

[waxen dock]

Even with mirai

[cyan smelt]

I won one yay

Not my day, I lost to a flare blitz crit

Hyper voice indeedee and fucking rotom

I am garbage

Getting crit all the time

Fuck this gc

[bold geode]

Like
It's somewhere in the 76-92 range

[cyan smelt]

I'm boutta quit vgc honestly

[solid frigate]

its more likke

find ways to not play while tilted

[bold geode]

It's not for everyone I guess

[cyan smelt]

Maybe I should use proven archetypes

Everyone I've played is so good

[empty haven]

I realised I need to plan way more during my games

Currently rank 7 great ball tier and I’m realising a lot of my losses could’ve been prevented easier if I just thought harder

[cyan smelt]

Yeah torrent you're right I need to not play when I'm tilted

I keep falling into the trap of the sunk cost fallacy and trying to chase wins when I've had losses and my mentality is poor

[empty haven]

Oh god I’m fighting minimise muk

I may be cooked

[craggy dagger]

it’s always good to take a break when you go on a losing streak
it’ll both help you calm if you’re tilted
but also helps you reset your mind for more games ahead

[cyan smelt]

When I get outplayed in a game I need to step away I think

[craggy dagger]

but you shouldn’t beat yourself up for messing up a play either

[cyan smelt]

Yeah when I lost to the final gambit ape I beat myself up a lot

That's where my tilt started

[waxen dock]

Agreed

[empty haven]

3v1 versus +6 evasion muk

And it has moody

Power of alchemy+smeargle

[cyan smelt]

Feels like everyone knows how to play against rain

[waxen dock]

I got predicted like 5 times in predicts where even 1600 in ps cant do

[empty haven]

Please end my suffering

[bold geode]

You

[cyan smelt]

How do I avoid getting so upset

[waxen dock]

Knowing that im upset too

[craggy dagger]

You!!

[empty haven]

Mew doesn’t get final gambit right…

[craggy dagger]

don’t think so?

[tiny karma]

[Latest Gen] Mew

Final Gambit:

• Mew does not learn Final Gambit in Generation 9

Sableye version 4.28.4

[empty haven]

I’m facing against the strangest teams ever today

Mew in 2025?!

[craggy dagger]

imprison transform mew

[bold geode]

[empty haven]

Oh makes sense actually

It did use imprison before getting one shot by miraidon

[cyan smelt]

It's funny, I haven't seen a single dozo giri during this gc

[empty haven]

I’ve seen one

But they dced almost asap

[next stump]

Feel free to throw out this advice but it’s really important to view pokemon through the lens of a hobby unless you’re really really trying to push for worlds or be a top top player

We all have rough stretches, especially when it’s not a priority, and that’s okay

Also if you are trying to improve, the number one thing I’ve told friends or anyone I’ve worked with is that they need to start viewing the game more analytically. A lot of people “auto pilot” when they play and get frustrated when it doesn’t work out

[empty haven]

I agree with this

I used to take this game a lot more seriously when I was younger. I ended up just getting angry at myself more than having fun

Now I just do battling for fun testing out new teams and stuff

[cyan smelt]

Yeah I'm auto piloting, I need to think when I play and also be more relaxed about it which is hard because I'm not a relaxed person

Ty dillon

[jade dust]

WHAT THE FUCK

MY SWITCH TURNED ITSELF OFF

CUZ LOW BATTERY????

[bold geode]

This is big too, hell a lot of my losses last night were cuz of this

[jade dust]

I HAVE FUCKING 24% BATTERY KEFT

IM PISSED

[cyan smelt]

Ik I have frequent meltdowns in here so I need to relax

[jade dust]

MADE ME LOSE A MATCH I WAS WINNING

[empty haven]

I’ve never used lunala in comp before but this guy smokes

I enjoy

I’m still sad it suffers from mixed attacker syndrome tho

There is 0 reason why a special attacker needs 113 base atk

[solid frigate]

its a utility restricted so it helps a lot for your team

[valid wagon]

My friends are doing a Pokémon tournament and the winner gets a prize I’m really interested in winning, and I realized I have no prior experience to actual comp battle online

So I’ll be trying to learn

[empty haven]

If you want the easy way out use calyrex lmao

[next stump]

what’s the format of the battles?

[solid frigate]

Yeah there are two rn

[valid wagon]

It’s doubles, and it’s on showdown

It’s one of those drafts where it’s a collection of pokemon we have inside jokes about, and depending on how good they are is how many “points” they cost to use on our team

[valid wagon]

I would but it isn’t on the available drafts

[empty haven]

Rip

[valid wagon]

I’m thinking of maybe using a sand-team of sorts since my favorite Pokemon donphan I wanna include in some way, though I know its stats have a lot to be desired

I’m not sure the proper terminology

[solid frigate]

Lemme ask,does it have any DLC Mons+Legendaries

[valid wagon]

Nope, we banned those.

[solid frigate]

So Basically Reg H ok

[flint siren]

Was wondering if any1 could get the master ball rank ribbon on a pkmn for me

[valid wagon]

No it’s nat dex doubles but I don’t think any gimmicks will be allowed

I’m not sure exactly how it all works

[solid frigate]

is there any like draft list on which mon is legal?

[valid wagon]

Yes but it’s all art and some of them it’s hard to tell what is what

I can send in the list and if you have any questions on what is what lmk

[solid frigate]

if you can send the thing here you can ig

[valid wagon]

Here it is

[solid frigate]

I can see some arts ig

But what the fuck is those selections

[valid wagon]

We have a limit of 16 points

[valid wagon]

As I mentioned, it’s all random pokemon we have inside jokes about

We do nuzlockes together as a group

So whenever we find something and we find it funny it usually gets cool art and becomes an inside joke

For example the eevee holding the cookie was refrencing the double chunk chocolate cookie’s from Costco 😭 that one became a Sylveon though

All of these are fully evolved

Some of the arts just older

[solid frigate]

So you will use Fully evolved Mons unless specify some are not gonna be fully evolved?

[valid wagon]

Oh wait it’s 20 points not 16

[valid wagon]

Also yes, only a few are unevolved but they’re all moms I don’t think are needed

Like the gothita for example

[solid frigate]

We know what the gothitelle line does

I guess Make it look like a half baked Reg H Team idk

[valid wagon]

…sorry I’m not sure what even that looks like haha

I’m very very new to this the most I’ve done comp wise is breeding for high iv pokemon for masuda

I’ll look into it and try to make it my best and test it out in any way I can

[solid frigate]

Talonflame (4)
Garchomp (5)
Eevee->Sylveon or Umbreon (2)
Arcanine (3)
Gimmighoul->Gholdengo (5)
Gothita ->Gothitelle (1)

There we go 20

Talonflame Arcanine(Kanto) and Gothitelle as Supports

Garchomp Dengo as Main damage dealers

[valid wagon]

I can’t evolve the gothita, it never did in the nuzlocke

Sorry

Everything else is golden though

[solid frigate]

Then watterl into Kilowatterl

Since your team is horrible on Water Types

[valid wagon]

Oh yes that’ll work

[solid frigate]

Then Your two Fire types had to be supports

[craggy dagger]

You!!

[solid frigate]

Nova what-

[valid wagon]

Ah this makes sense

[craggy dagger]

idk i just wanted to say hi

[solid frigate]

You mind me making that team rn for a reference on what to do?

[valid wagon]

Thank you for the help btw, i just need to practice

[solid frigate]

Fair enough

[valid wagon]

Oh yes ofc, give me around 20 minutes at most

Sorry misread I thought you meant me make the team so you could see

😭

Oh wait a minute @solid frigate I’m not sure if the points add up properly, the eevee that is Sylveon costs 4 points, and the eevee that is flareon is 2

Should’ve clarified that, my fault

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/6d9a85dd0b7625db

Doesn't matter i'm using Umbreon

[valid wagon]

Nono as in you can’t change what evolution it is

[empty haven]

If my ogerpon uses follow me on a amoonguss spore the amoonguss should still go into ogerpon right

[valid wagon]

Other than that this is a really good team woah

[empty haven]

Because follow me doesn’t work the same as rage powder

[solid frigate]

That’s very bullshit lmao

[valid wagon]

I’m sorry 😭 if I had remembered I would’ve told you

[solid frigate]

Unless Ogerpon tera’d they are immune to Spore and Rage Powder

At least not teal mask ones

[valid wagon]

I can make some alterations on my end, I think I can make it work

[solid frigate]

Just touch Umbreon and not the others I think would be better

[valid wagon]

Yeah that’s what I mean

[empty haven]

Also does koraidon even get spread moves?

[solid frigate]

Breaking Swipe but you do not run Dragon Move On Koraidon anyway

[empty haven]

Good to know ty

[gentle crag]

mochadragon091 has given 1 Gen Rep to morrispxg456

[valid wagon]

Thank you a lot though, I never even thought about some of these things you put on here

I just need to practice putting it into use, and I wanna learn a little on how to use it on my own so i can get my own feel for it

[empty haven]

Koraidon watching its trainer commanding it to go into spiky shield for a 3rd time

These people can’t be real

[solid frigate]

What Elo?

[empty haven]

Currently rank 8 great ball tier

So close to ultra ball

[jade dust]

Is today day 2 of grand challenge?

Or day 1?

[solid frigate]

Makes sense

[solid frigate]

Day 2

[jade dust]

Oh fuck

So I have to do 30 games…..

[solid frigate]

Also man I just need to finish my blog to actually post the final team

While having homework to do

[empty haven]

What’s the reward for doing these grand challenges again?

[next stump]

just some small in game stuff

you can earn championship points towards worlds if you perform well too

[empty haven]

I see

[solid frigate]

By perform well we mean like top 1000

I think

[empty haven]

I’m trying to get my brain jogging again in prep for za

Haven’t done any real battling in ages until now

[waxen dock]

dillon how are you doing in the gc?

[next stump]

6-1 so far, but probably won't play too much more

[waxen dock]

im 18-12

[empty haven]

Za ranked is going to be so interesting

Seems like you’ll need a good reaction time

[jade dust]

I’m 10-6

I kinda don’t want to do 30 games rn lol

https://pokepast.es/238f868fd9e2ce2c

This team is very fun

[waxen dock]

next gc i wont use the same team

i learned my lesson to not use the same team in the gc twice

[real prairie]

Sorry

[jade dust]

My tatsugiri is landing all muddy waters

I’m impressed

[solid frigate]

Bro is finally beating the Chi Yu Allegations

[jade dust]

For real

It helps support my sylveon to remove the fire types that resist fairy

And icy wind for speed control

[cyan smelt]

It's not your fault jack, I just didn't practice enough with it

[short quiver]

how many times did heat wave miss 🤨

[stone trellis]

What's its accuracy?

[real prairie]

90 I think

[tiny karma]

Move: Heat Wave

Has a 10% chance to burn the target.

Type

Fire

Category

Special

Power

95

Accuracy

90

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Wind

Triggers Wind Power and Wind Rider.

Sableye version 4.28.4

[mental mason]

Hmm. I need to try my Reg H team on the Bo3 format. I think I go for more risky plays that win me Bo1s more often then they should.

It's just I dont like changing what im used to so I put it off lmao.

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2455234357

[solid frigate]

No way we have ZA comp chat

And for the love of god I don’t want ZA to be the next comp game for Pokémon

[molten oasis]

Wild

[solid frigate]

Atp playing Comp Pokémon also needs good Hand eye coordination

[shadow wind]

I doubt it

PLA wasn’t

[strange fjord]

PLA didn't have PvP but also they kinda confirmed Champions is the next comp game for Pokemon

bet ZA battles are gonna be fun tho

[short quiver]

the game isnt out for another eeek

why we already change the server name

[zinc edge]

Can anyone help me put together a team for reg h

[bold geode]

Bro doesn't have good hand eye

[lofty tartan]

Playing video games should help with that, inherently. 👀

[craggy dagger]

lmao

badminton skills coming in clutch

[foggy lodge]

We are not SV anymore

So actually like

[craggy dagger]

champions chat here i guess

[foggy lodge]

Considering LZA actually does have rankeds

Will this be the chat for that lol

[next stump]

#lza_competitive

[foggy lodge]

Substitute Blursa on Justin's stream lmao

[zinc edge]

Does anyone want to do a practice battle with me before I go into competitive

[ebon pivot]

im stuck on what to add next https://pokepast.es/403477d925ad1d49

[dense latch]

honestly only torkoal is worth using out of these four

maybe gastro but i dont see its niche in the meta rn

there's just better trick room pieces available

[ebon pivot]

But I wanna use these

slowbro and gastrodon

[molten oasis]

slowbro is just a pretty mediocre mon and i dont think gastrodon really does that much into the format

BUT if you wanna use them that much, hmm

ah its a surf storm drain gimmick i see

[ebon pivot]

yuh

[molten oasis]

i dont know how well this is gonna work into things like, rilla, wide guard peli (which exists), arch shouldnt be a horrible mu

[ebon pivot]

what are some counters?

[molten oasis]

like in a bo1 setting itll probably work just fine

[ebon pivot]

I normally do bo1

[molten oasis]

well your own torkoal handles rilla okay

[ebon pivot]

what should I add to counter some other threats?

[molten oasis]

uhh, its a tr team, so probably incineroar, for fake out and damage mitigation

drop the avalugg, avalugg is just generally not a good mon

[ebon pivot]

alr

[ebon pivot]

main reason I named him placeholder

didnt know if I'd use him or not

[molten oasis]

you'd get more value (for a tr team setting) from one of the ursalunas if anything, but unless you want hard tr i think it may be worthwhile looking into maybe a gholdengo incin rilla or amoonguss core

so that you dont hard rely on the tr mode to do anything

id suggest incin rilla dengo if anything that core is just strong in the format right now

[oak finch]

NZ SPC registration opens in two hours, my first registration

praying for it not to instantly sell out

[ebon pivot]

gholdengo?

I kinda wanna make a team with mons arent really popular

[molten oasis]

if you want to make some niche thing work well you have to use some strong mons

[foggy lodge]

^

[ebon pivot]

incine

[molten oasis]

more than one

you cannot win the game because you have an incineroar

[foggy lodge]

Teams that use niche mons usually come with super common ones just because those mons are exactly what makes them work

[molten oasis]

and 5 niche guys

that doesnt work

[foggy lodge]

Like Marcofiero's team uses mons that aren't really popular like Jumpluff and Charizard but the rest are popular and those 6 have a correlation that makes them work organically

[ebon pivot]

just 2?

[molten oasis]

at the most unless its filling a very specific niche, yes only 2

at the very most, usually its just one

[foggy lodge]

I think it's a matter of just

Making the team cohesive

[ebon pivot]

so all I need is 2 mons that are meta?

[molten oasis]

for the surf gimmick you wanna do id suggest having that niche, then make a team with strong mons

im saying 2 niche guys at most, usually, from what i've seen/done

[ebon pivot]

if I have to use meta mons is there any sets I could put on them that arent often seen?

[molten oasis]

not really?

[foggy lodge]

They usually have some sets that are less often used like Incin

[molten oasis]

like i guess with incin you could do some weird stuff

[foggy lodge]

Personally I actually have been obsessed with mirror herb Incin

[molten oasis]

rilla is generally a similar role but has a couple decent sets

[ebon pivot]

some people run will o wisp on incin with a life orb ursaluna, they use will o wisp on their ursaluna

[molten oasis]

like miracle seed sets are fun

[molten oasis]

dont do that thats incredibly inconsistent

[ebon pivot]

I've done that on a reg J lunala kyurem white team once

[molten oasis]

theres a reason ursa just runs a flame orb lol

dengo has like, scarf/specs trick sets

ursa (normal) is always one set but bloodmoon can use a few different sets

[ebon pivot]

could I run one of those?

[molten oasis]

sure

[foggy lodge]

AV Blursa was "weird" before but it has become pretty standard now

[ebon pivot]

If I use bloodmoon ima do an assault vest one

[molten oasis]

av's a good set thats proven its worth

[foggy lodge]

Lefties is a more unusual one but I think it required rilla

[molten oasis]

the yawn tera electric set is also neat

rilla doesnt really have like, weird sets

[ebon pivot]

wait

[molten oasis]

its kinda the same thing everytime

[ebon pivot]

a tr basculegion set with room service

[foggy lodge]

the what now

[ebon pivot]

or half tr

[foggy lodge]

Basculegion isn't really that fast honestly

[molten oasis]

you want fast pokemon on a tr team, and yeah basc isn't really a fast mon

[foggy lodge]

So you can just run soft tr and like sash + adaptability

[ebon pivot]

adaptability room service

[foggy lodge]

don't run room service lol

[molten oasis]

just run a sash lol

[foggy lodge]

Idt it even like

[ebon pivot]

I could run a tailwind mon

half tr half tailwind?

[foggy lodge]

Underspeed that many things even at -1 to make it worth

[ebon pivot]

somebody won a regional with a room service basculegion set I think

[molten oasis]

not that im aware of

[foggy lodge]

min speed at -1 doesn't even underspeed min speed ursa xd

[foggy lodge]

No that has never happened

[molten oasis]

tailroom? uhh

[ebon pivot]

Either that or they got top 10 or something like that

this was their team https://pokepast.es/46c6a4b563f379f9

[molten oasis]

is tailroom much of a thing this format? beyond like, p2 ursa dengo with hydrei or dnite

[foggy lodge]

Idt it was a regional lol

At most it could have been an online tournament

What reg could it even be from

Is it reg E

I know 100% its not from reg H

[ebon pivot]

nvm he got top cut at a local

it was reg H

[molten oasis]

that makes more sense

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

[molten oasis]

i was so confused lol

I wouldnt suggest that set though, sash adapt is decent

[foggy lodge]

I was messing around with P2 Basculegion

Cuz yeah like

78 speed isn't that good tbh lol

[molten oasis]

was it decent?

[foggy lodge]

So just with tailroom stuff you can get the basc to endgame positions where it just runs away with the game

[foggy lodge]

Yeah it was okay

Idt the problem was the concept of tailroom basculegion just

The rest of the team lol

[molten oasis]

i see lol

[ebon pivot]

Is there any good room service mon for a tailroom team?

[molten oasis]

no

room service is a pretty rarely used item, if at all

[foggy lodge]

If you are running tailroom it isn't even worth it to run room service

[ebon pivot]

thats kinda why I wanna use room service

its rarely used

[molten oasis]

its not a good item just use a slow mon for trick room

[foggy lodge]

room service is mostly a tech for specific MUs

like wolfey ran room service pelipper

or another player at the same tournament used room service blursa to tech the cir MU lol

[molten oasis]

that peli set was fckn wild

[foggy lodge]

It was but makes sense

[molten oasis]

yeah

[foggy lodge]

Like it speed sandwichs cir walls it and tera fire was the most common tera atm back then so

room service blursa was also a tech that my friend used and won a local with it and did pretty well on ladder with it

Honestly it was better into the Miraidon MU than into the CIR one lol

[molten oasis]

lol, reg g was, smth

[foggy lodge]

A format of all times

[molten oasis]

[foggy lodge]

(still better than reg H)

[molten oasis]

id rather be in reg g yeah, but both formats are in similar spots for me

i think i hate ghost types

like fighting ghost types

[foggy lodge]

i think i just hate blizzard

Blizzard has fucked me up more than dire claw

[molten oasis]

i have gotten blizzard procs way more than dire claw procs

im contributing to the problem!

[foggy lodge]

I hate A9 so much like

[bold geode]

3-1 so far for games today (2 of the games were Day 2 games so 7-8 to Day 2)
Lost one game cuz I didn't tera the right thing

BUT WE BEAT ZEEN FINALLY LFG

We beat the Zeen MU

[molten oasis]

nice

[bold geode]

Not Zeen himself but the team

Tbf they didn't bring Annihilape for some fuckin reason

[molten oasis]

wild

[foggy lodge]

It has turbo and haxs people with freeze
It does 0 damage
And somehow it gets haxed because it misses or gets crited through veil

[molten oasis]

the mon hates you

[foggy lodge]

Aurora veil has been such a useless move in my experience lmao

I've had like 3 matches with the Tang's team

[bold geode]

Chat I'm fighting Hisuian Decidueye and I low-key don't know if I have a MU

[foggy lodge]

Where I clicked aurora veil

[molten oasis]

good luck

[foggy lodge]

And the same turn or on the next turn I get critted

Like what

[molten oasis]

pfff

yeah i just think a9 hates you man idk what to tell you

[foggy lodge]

It gave me a match because one time I think Harc survived an attack with -1 and aurora veil with like 5 HP and then it could win the game

But I was praying for it to no crit dude it felt like the chances were from like 50%

[molten oasis]

how i feel watching sneasler dire claw sleep me

or dragonite hitting a scale shot, god i hate that set

its either good or i missed and the games over

[foggy lodge]

Scale shot feels so horrible when its like

Your only real damage option on this format for Dnite

If its not choice band

[molten oasis]

or it only hit 4 times and it needed 5

[foggy lodge]

I tried it with Koraidon but like

[molten oasis]

i dont like dnite like at all id rather play garchomp 9 times out of 10

[foggy lodge]

You feel the difference right you mostly click tera fire flare blitz not scale shot 5 times in a row lmao

[molten oasis]

tera fire flare blitz is just, cracked

crazy damage output

[foggy lodge]

And even for korai scale shot was somehow more consistent cuz

The damage between 4 and 5 hits didn't decide if it oneshotted or not

It oneshots Chien-Pao through sash with 4 hits btw!!!

[molten oasis]

at least on korai it has that attack boost

dnite doesnt get that

idk i dont like the mons that miss moves much its infuriating and dnite is just, at the top of that list

a9 sets snow it has an exception

and i suffer on play rough zacian

[foggy lodge]

I think that dnite sets is super toxic honestly

Like it misses and decided if it picks up a OHKO on a 50/50

[molten oasis]

which sucks

i like dengo cuz dengo is just consistent asf

in this format especially

[foggy lodge]

Dengo is so CSR shaped

[molten oasis]

70% usage

yeah it is, it 100% is

like, nasty plot goes up that mon is now horrifying

[foggy lodge]

The only difference is dengo has a manageable speed tier lol

But dengo mirrors feel exactly like CSR mirrors

[molten oasis]

i also have life orb so i can just nuke you without a boost

[foggy lodge]

With the speed ties and everything!!!

[molten oasis]

true

and guess what most dengo teams have

https://tenor.com/view/incineroar-default-dance-jerb-q-gif-24304326

its so CSR coded

[cyan smelt]

God I hate weezing slaking

[foggy lodge]

I was gonna say I miss Scream Tail but Scream Tail doesn't do shit into dengo LMAO

Encore disable is still evil but is an evil I like

If not friend then why friend shaped

[bold geode]

Ok
I'm not one to blame luck ever

[molten oasis]

I miss shifu, ik the mons broken and all

[bold geode]

But I lost
Cuz they literally KO'd 3 of my mons off of crits

[molten oasis]

It’s a pretty fun mon to use imo

[bold geode]

I literally got hit with 3 crits in a row

ACTUALLY NO 4

[cyan smelt]

At least you didn't lose to Weezing slaking

[bold geode]

1492 rating
12 games to go
Idt I'm getting any points chat

[molten oasis]

Damn

[bold geode]

This run is probably cooked
Especially after losing that one

[cyan smelt]

God beat up maus next to glimmora

But I beat it

I won another game

[oak finch]

nice

auckland spc rego in one hour, pray for me

[cyan smelt]

Gl getting in

[oak finch]

64 slots 😭

server had over 200 people join after the announcement post

[cyan smelt]

Just got owned by water shuriken scarf ape

Gc is difficult but I misplayed

[rustic mountain]

10-3 record for the gc, did not get much time to play as many games as i wouldve liked this weekend

[waxen dock]

And i lost cuz my opponent got a crit on me

These kids have no skill but have luck

[ebon pivot]

is there a big root mon I can use?

In reg H

I'm thinking of comfey rn

[rustic mountain]

u think uve seen it all w/ ppl asking about different mons use case but never have i seen some1 wanting to use a specific item

[ebon pivot]

yeah

[rustic mountain]

i forget wat big root even does off top

[ebon pivot]

It makes draining moves drain 1.3x more

[rustic mountain]

idk how great comfey would be w/ it since generally u wanna be healing/supporting ur partner

[ebon pivot]

what else learns good moves for stealing hp from oppenents then?

[rustic mountain]

maybe big root sinistcha?

macha gotcha

the item is just kinda weird

is it only moves that specifically have drain in them?

or like any move that takes hp

[ebon pivot]

its moves that drain hp I think

I dont know if its only certain moves

[rustic mountain]

if it works w/ sinischas macha gotcha then id say try that

[ebon pivot]

Florges?

It learns 2 different draining moves

giga drain and draining kiss

[rustic mountain]

florges kinda mid but u can try it out

[cyan smelt]

Let's go beat someone 1556

I think I'm playing better

[ebon pivot]

im trying to get better at competitive by trying to make mons or items that normally dont work well work

[cyan smelt]

Sneasler rilla arch is hard

Got 16 battles to go

[rustic mountain]

unfortunately not really how it works. id try to use things already good and that work to further ur understanding of the game and knowledge of the meta so then down the line u can better inform ur teambuilding and decision making

[cyan smelt]

I've learnt I don't really like archaludon, I think I prefer ninetales

Or maybe I'm just misplaying but idk I don't think I'm a rain guy

[ebon pivot]

I just wanna get really good at teambuilding first tho

[rustic mountain]

doesnt really work like oh i use mons that dont work and win w/ that and suddenly im better wen i dont use those bad mons. ur just doing urself a disservice in the meantime by forcing something u probably shouldnt just for the sake of it instead of focusing on the fundamentals of the game

[waxen dock]

Bro

Who do i always get bad mu

[cyan smelt]

I'm proud of my win against the dozo glimmora maus team

[ebon pivot]

fair

[cyan smelt]

This meta seems to be one misplay and you lose, not a lot of room for error

[ebon pivot]

I made this set tho

Florges-Blue @ Big Root
Ability: Flower Veil
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 164 HP / 252 Def / 24 SpA / 68 SpD
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Giga Drain
• Draining Kiss
• Protect
• Pollen Puff

[rustic mountain]

im not saying dont ever try that, im just saying dont skip steps if u really do want to get better though

[ebon pivot]

I made a pretty meta team once tho

[rustic mountain]

its a really common misconception amongst ppl getting into vgc

[cyan smelt]

I need to use some proven teams I think

[ebon pivot]

https://pokepast.es/7f4a0a0a7d418bef

[rustic mountain]

yes that is a good team

tho some ev spreads are a bit weird

[ebon pivot]

The main reason I'm starting to want to make more unique teams is because I got a kyurem white team to sorta work

It wasnt perfect but it was decent

[rustic mountain]

kyruem white sucks

[ebon pivot]

what evs tho

[ebon pivot]

I know, thats why im suprised I made him work in reg J

[rustic mountain]

leftovers bm ursa w/ max atk and speed?

[ebon pivot]

tailwind

[rustic mountain]

grassy seed sneasler w/ no defensive investment?

usually multiscale dnites are a bit more spread out w/ ev investment as well

[ebon pivot]

what would you reccomend changing?

[rustic mountain]

reg j? as in the format where ppl are memeing w/ 1 mythical

[ebon pivot]

yeah

[rustic mountain]

not to take away from ur wins but reg j isnt the most serious of formats

[ebon pivot]

still, I've won lots of matches I thought I'd lose

https://pokepast.es/844183f9532f0d24 this was the team

[rustic mountain]

honestly dont really have any grassy seed sneasler spreads but id just try and give a bit more durability to something w/ leftovers and dnites increasing its speed w/ scale shot, prolly just enough speed to outspeed common mid tier speed threats like dengo and then give urself the ability to outpace super fast guys to outspeed at +1 and spread it into bulk

[ebon pivot]

I had to tera my kyurem white almost every match tho

[rustic mountain]

yea i bet

[ebon pivot]

infact I dont think I went a match without using tera on kyurem 😭🥀💔

The one time I didnt was when I tera'd urshifu on a calyrexS

[cyan smelt]

Tree how common is lefties arch? Is that picking up?

[ebon pivot]

https://pokepast.es/d4b184ed5b5c9369 I also made this stupid team 😭🥀

It didnt work at all since nobody brought incineroar

[cyan smelt]

Munchstats says lefties is at 1%, I must have fought the only guy running lefties arch

[ebon pivot]

so sac some speed on sneasler and give him more bulk, more bulk to ursaluna, and more bulk and dragonite?

[ebon pivot]

These sets? https://pokepast.es/0e7c033db6ccff7f

[zinc edge]

Anyone wanna help me test my new team and help me with suggestions if it needs them

[oak finch]

we did it chat 😭

TCG sold out in under 10 seconds, VGC got almost 5 mins

[cyan smelt]

Good luck

[oak finch]

turns out vgc actually sold out in 15 seconds

[cyan smelt]

Crazy

Glad I didn't bother

[oak finch]

people are FUMING in discord and facebook apparently only like 10% New Zealanders actually got places, mostly AU and China apparently

[cyan smelt]

That's messed up

[jade dust]

Perish song with Giri and Dozo is so funny

I force them to reposition awkwardly

When playing this team I really want to force them to get their Dragonite or haze user out

Helping hand Draco meteor OHKO Dragonite through multiscale

[cyan smelt]

I beat the only dozo team I saw

[jade dust]

Wave crash rain boosted after one order up is a OHKO on Amoonguss

It’s hilarious

[jade dust]

I lost to a Dozo with yawn

The endgame was Dozo vs Dozo

Lost to timer

[cyan smelt]

Yawn fissure?

[jade dust]

Yeah

They landed a fissure on my Sylveon

[cyan smelt]

Pain

[jade dust]

But missed all on my Dozo

So came to an eternal 1v1

More than 20 turns of pain

[cyan smelt]

Seems like in the gc people just want to pull off their strat without any regards to what you lead

[jade dust]

Yeah I feel like that

To be fair my team has limited lead options

I either lead:
Giri and Poli
Sylveon and Sneasler
Archaludon and Poli

My only real lead options

[cyan smelt]

What do you do if they have tailwind

I've enjoyed the gc a bit more today, even if I've lost a fair bit

Feel like I'm getting better and at least I can identify how I lost

[jade dust]

Nothing lol. I can’t do much about speed control

I rely in my team’s bulk

To trade positively

It works unless they have haze or clear smog

[cyan smelt]

Or opposing dozo

[jade dust]

Yeah I want to position Dozo where they can’t get rid of my boosts

If I got my plan going of Giri listening to perish song before pairing with Dozo

I make it a 2v2 with boosted Dozo

And can bring Sylveon in with psych up

With Sylveon and Dozo in position, I can blow through my opponents team

[cyan smelt]

I think I'm beginning to understand how the pieces of teams work together

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Sableye version 4.28.4

[dapper crag]

Surf mega gyarados bout to go hard

[real prairie]

The bottle was legendary.

Tbh I'm glad I can probably no longer afford to play a Reg H regional.

It's super volatile and I'm not a good enough player for this kind of format yet.

[dapper crag]

False

I know you’re good enough

[cyan smelt]

Just lost two in a row, one to Blaziken

[waxen dock]

i won against mdb balance with blaziken

[cyan smelt]

I'm struggling in reg h

[waxen dock]

even though i missed my opponent electabuzz twice in the game and his electabuzz was in range of muddy water but it missed and he also got a burn on my tatsu

[waxen dock]

same, even tho i have 1700 elo in bo1 in showdown but im still struggling aginst it

[solid frigate]

I feel like the struggle on Kal0s’s end is not the same as your end

[cyan smelt]

My brain don't work properly

[cyan smelt]

Just lost to simple beam golduck next to annihilape

[cyan smelt]

Lost to fucking sitrus torkoal

And av gallade

It's no good I keep losing

Should have stopped when I got to 1500

[waxen dock]

bruh

my opponent is trying to do leftovers stall

wow

cc did like 50% to that gastrodon

im now 22-14

[waxen dock]

whats your team?

[cyan smelt]

Jack's ludicolo team

[waxen dock]

maybe try a diffrent team

[cyan smelt]

I need to try proven meta

[waxen dock]

no

you need to try something that you love

[cyan smelt]

No

[waxen dock]

yes

maybe jack team isnt your archetype

maybe just try like nicholas morales team or something

[cyan smelt]

Why is ape so bulky

Why do I have to struggle so much

[cyan smelt]

Ik what it is, it's this medication I'm on

[waxen dock]

ok idk if i win my game

ok i win it

[cyan smelt]

Nice work, glad you're doing well

[waxen dock]

not really well

but not bad either

im now 24-15?

oh yes

i am

[cyan smelt]

Awesome just beat a ttar team with kilowattrel

And ape

[solid frigate]

that+Meta stuff

find a balance between them

while also improve on the awareness of the wacky sets in GC and normal stuff (This is why i play Randbats)

[cyan smelt]

Randbats may be fun to switch it up

[solid frigate]

i play randbats just to teach me to expect the worst of the movesets

[cyan smelt]

Is there any other formats you'd recommend? I'd like to be more flexible and adaptable

Finished the gc at around 1500, I think I improved by the end

[waxen dock]

ok

i m taking a risk

that my opponent wont use tera on his flamigo

otherwise my lead is a little cookeed

focus blast time

ok now me and my opponent are 3 vs 3

[cyan smelt]

What's your team?

[waxen dock]

oh no my opponent predicted me

now i lose

[cyan smelt]

Maybe randbats will help me stop auto piloting

Don't a lot of the top guys play other formats

[next stump]

I have a super fun local tournament today, a monotype draft

I got probably the worst type though, or at least one of the worst

[waxen dock]

did you get points from that?

[next stump]

No just for fun

[cyan smelt]

Steel, ghost and fire looking pretty strong

[next stump]

yeah agree, the teams are split up into 3 categories

weakest types, middle types, strongest types

and it's actually a partner tournament so you get paired up with another type

so as an ice type, I'll get steel/dark/normal/water/dragon as my partner guaranteed

[waxen dock]

wdym partner?

[next stump]

It's a multibattle tournament too hahaha

[cyan smelt]

Fighting looking strong too

[next stump]

So you only control one pokemon out of the two on your side

[cyan smelt]

Whoever faces annihilape should be really scared

[waxen dock]

i hate meta spammers

[cyan smelt]

I want to use Blaziken since it's cool now

[waxen dock]

my opponent is a meta spameer

[cyan smelt]

What's the team

[waxen dock]

what team?

[cyan smelt]

Your opponent's

[waxen dock]

dozo giri snealse ghold talon and bmoon

all of them are meta mons

[cyan smelt]

Seems fairly standard

[waxen dock]

no unique mons

[cyan smelt]

Most teams aren't unique

It's really hard to win with non meta mons

[waxen dock]

yes but bro using the top 20 mons with dozogiri isnt really an interesting team

and my opponent gets a crit on me

some people want to win and some want to enjoy the game

i want to do both

[next stump]

what is people derive enjoyment from winning

[waxen dock]

and my opponent just spams protect

instead of progressing the game

people like this deserve in my opoinion crits

i mean gettijng criteted

and the game ends soon

its now player time battle

not a dozo giri battle

and the battle ends in 40 seconmds

i didnt knew it was possible

and it says that i lost

cuz of fucking time

why does this thing even exist

just do that battle in time ends as a tie

[solid frigate]

Metagross being green is so fucking cursed

[zinc edge]

Does anyone have a nightrider calyrex for trade so I can finish my comp team Ive had no luck on the #1112832566261731328

[solid frigate]

Shadow Rider*

[zinc edge]

Yeahy bad

My bad @solid frigate lol

I can trade any paldean mon and if it's available shiny I can get that for it

[bold geode]

You're just gonna have to be patient there, we don't do trades in this channel

[zinc edge]

All good I just figured someone might be willing to help a fellow comp trainer out of a pickle

[waxen dock]

Maybe try to get them from home gts but you cant really know if they are hacked if its from there

[zinc edge]

Anyone wanna go up against my new team in a bit and test it out with me ?

Maybe give me some tips and adjustments

Point out any flaws or weaknesses you may notice

[solid frigate]

Can you just show the team first to see if there is any problems with it

[zinc edge]

Yeah 1 sec @solid frigate

Holding light clay-jumpluff

Holding life orb-koraidon

Focus sash-fluttermane

Safety goggles- incenaroar

Flame orb-ursaluna

Leftovers-amoongus

How's it looking @solid frigate

[waxen dock]

Pls vote

The problem with this gc are 2 problems

1 bad format

2 not a lot of players

[zinc edge]

Hey do you see anything I could improve on the above team

[waxen dock]

Why only koraidon?

And why dont you send paste?

[zinc edge]

Paste?

[waxen dock]

Also you dont need both amoonguss and jumpluff

[zinc edge]

Ok I'll probably drop amoongus then what should I switch it for maybe nightrider ?

[solid frigate]

A lot of them have problems

[zinc edge]

Please tell me

[solid frigate]

1.where is the secondary restricted

2.Brute Bonnet over Amogus

And this is just the team placement

There is still inside problems

[zinc edge]

I'm probably gonna switch amoongus for nightrider

And I'm not completely sold on having ursaluna either the core is the first 4

[left bobcat]

You look like my bowl of cereal

[solid frigate]

Flutter Mane needs Icy Wind and Booster Speed as the buff you get from protosynthesis,Tera Fairy

Koraidon Needs Flame Charge and Close Combat instead of Dclaw and Collision Course,Tera Fire

Facade and Earthquake over Play Rough And CC in Ursaluna And replace with Tera Ghost

And there’s more over on EVs and stuff

[zinc edge]

Flutter gets speed boost from sun koraidon and tailwind from jumpluff

[solid frigate]

I’ll send the paste for you to reference

[zinc edge]

But what do I drop for icy wind tbolt or protect or shadowball

[solid frigate]

You don’t need Jumpluff for Koraidon

You need a second Restricted

[left bobcat]

Specs flutter

[left bobcat]

Lunala

[zinc edge]

Specs for flutter ok

[solid frigate]

With Lunala Yes

[solid frigate]

DONT

[zinc edge]

Ok 😂

Keep sash ?

[left bobcat]

SCHYEAH

[solid frigate]

Lemme send the reference team for you

Incin is fine but atp just use the worlds Team cuz if we replace Amogus with Bonnet it’s literally just worlds team

[left bobcat]

AV INCIN

[solid frigate]

Shut up

[zinc edge]

It is ?

[solid frigate]

5/6 are from Worlds Winning team

[zinc edge]

Lmfao 😂 I don't keep up with that stuff that's wild this is my first time touching this game in like 2 years

[solid frigate]

EVs ill give you later

[zinc edge]

Ok

So add a brute bonnet over amoongus? And should I switch ursaluna for nightrider ?

[solid frigate]

Replace Jumpluff with Lunala

And Incin can be switched to Chi Yu

https://pokepast.es/d497ee381e3cc5a9

[zinc edge]

Dang but jumpluff is so good with screens and tailwind depending on what I need for the situation but you said lunala

[left bobcat]

Oooo I see where this is going
Chi yu Lunala
Chien pao Koraidon

[solid frigate]

You don’t need screens in this team

[solid frigate]

Stop goofing around

[solid frigate]

@zinc edge here

[zinc edge]

Ok idk if I have a lunala though anything I can use in the meantime

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/08d9130b82de1712

I just grab the EVs from what i would use

[zinc edge]

Ok thanks

[atomic portal]

@torn parrot we should make shiny koraidon team - i got 2 codes today

[torn parrot]

Haha

YEAHHHHHHH

next gen

next gen

[bold geode]

@next stump you think they do a GC in Nov for SV?

[waxen dock]

The novsmber gc will be reg h i think

[knotty mirage]

So anyone in here already tried terastal crescendo by any chance ?

[zinc edge]

Hey what's better on a sun team brute bonnet or calyrex (nr) for coverage

[craggy dagger]

no

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/kamen-rider-kamen-rider-ooo-bored-boredom-boredom-dance-gif-23773880

[solid frigate]

Let the Phoenix Baptise you in fire

https://tenor.com/view/仮面ライダーooo-ta-ja-dor-eternity-kamen-rider-ooo-toei-tokusatsu-gif-25415296

[craggy dagger]

why am i being turned into a fried raven…

[solid frigate]

Tbf this move like what 170-220t of force

[craggy dagger]

then what
i’m being condensed into a fried raven cube-?

[solid frigate]

I mean unless you suddenly have flash fire or Tera Water

[craggy dagger]

no…
i’m just a regular raven you turned into one of those deep fried cubes…

[solid frigate]

Oops

[real prairie]

Oh Hi Maya

[torn parrot]

Heyyy!

[real prairie]

How u doin ?! x

[solid frigate]

Jack I might have burnt Nova into a crisp

[real prairie]

que?

[torn parrot]

I’m happy I got my thing

[real prairie]

Noice!

[torn parrot]

Doing pretty good

How about you?

[real prairie]

i wanna know if you can swap it with the ride on

[real prairie]

clensed my palet of GC by streaming Emerald only using Ludicolo

[solid frigate]

You can’t

[real prairie]

sadj

[solid frigate]

I’m just using my new shiny Miraidon for My Final Team in SV proper unless Champions is not in January

[real prairie]

You have violet then yeah?

[solid frigate]

I just ask Lyco to trade me one cuz you can get Shiny Miraidon in scarlet

[real prairie]

fair nuff

[solid frigate]

I just need to finish the blog and the team in cart cuz I already tested the team in showdown and got Top 500 with near 70% GXE

[real prairie]

beautiful stuff

[solid frigate]

Ho-Oh solved my worries in Reg I

[solid frigate]

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[open rock]

-# really stupid question but I see a bunch of ppl breeding for specific natures, but according to bulbapedia it says only things like taste, and nature passed down breeding are (among other more niche things) the only things unaffected by minting, otherwise it works normally for regular stats, is it worth grinding for a specific nature or are the things mint doesnt change minor enough..?

[strange juniper]

the things mint doesn't change are all cosmetic

for competitive purposes, mint solves it all

[open rock]

Okay, thats what it seemed like but I still see ppl avoiding mints at almost all costs...

[foggy lodge]

Idk that's just weird

[chilly anvil]

Which Galarian slow is better? Galarian Slowbro or Slowking?

[zinc edge]

Anyone wanna battle ?

[bold geode]

There's probably some who want it to be absolutely perfect for whatever reason, but using mints does the job so

[rustic mountain]

mints >

[cyan smelt]

Breeding for the perfect nature is too time consuming

I feel like playing some more reg h but idk what to use

[rustic mountain]

breeding for nature really isnt that hard, i just think mints are an excellent qol change for ppl that just dont care and can change their nature on the fly

[foggy lodge]

Mints are also game changing

Apart from making breeding easier

They allow certain mons like legendaries to run completely different natures

Because of that we have to deal with jolly korai and timid mirai

Are the mints friends or enemies

[waxen dock]

guys pls vote

[rustic mountain]

y?

[dapper crag]

Can we talk about how broken deoxys defense is

It one shots calyrex (both forms)

[cyan smelt]

Ok even though I lost to it, simple beam annihilape is hilarious

[real prairie]

#1046572041421197352

[stone trellis]

Yeah, how broken.

You use a move that deals double your own HP when hit, that's definitely Deo-D doing all the work.

It's definitely not the fact that max HP Deoxys with Mirror Coat/Counter will always do 312 HP, therefore OHKOing everything which doesn't have a base HP of more than 206.

[stone trellis]

Imagine if it only ever dealt as much HP as you lost.