i like it tho
||you can get multiple hits and lets you recover pretty quickly with pogo||
#competitive_discussion
craggy dagger
shadow wind
Yeah 😔
shadow wind
Somehow didn’t explore ||bellhart|| at all
molten oasis
That’s insane
shadow wind
Like I’m so stupid for that
shadow wind
I even had ||pale oil|| 😭
craggy dagger
what 
molten oasis
Brother what
craggy dagger
dude
how long did it take
shadow wind
Oh man way too long
molten oasis
That had to be like 5-10 minutes
shadow wind
I finished that ending in 29 hours total
molten oasis
You KNOW that boss’s attack patterns
molten oasis
I finished that ending in 29 hours total
Oh you didn’t hard explore everything like I did
shadow wind
That had to be like 5-10 minutes
Broke every single bad habit for that
No panic jumping
molten oasis
I had 76 hours upon completion
shadow wind
I had 76 hours upon completion
Wowza
shadow wind
I thought I did until I looked at the interactive map
craggy dagger
molten oasis
There’s so much to do it’s crazy
shadow wind
I had to look up guides for ||act 3|| though
molten oasis
No wonder they spent so long on it
shadow wind
It’s so obscure
molten oasis
Yeah ||act 3|| was kinda tricky to figure out
shadow wind
And I thought people were just lying on Reddit
shadow wind
||https://youtu.be/BC9LS9KuCJo?si=P1OLyAFFUmyJb064||
Act 1???
molten oasis
That’s insane
shadow wind
Wait how I thought you hit act 2 when entering ||the citadel||
molten oasis
@craggy dagger did you get caught?
craggy dagger
mhm
shadow wind
Where do you even get caught?
craggy dagger
far fields
shadow wind
I have no clue how I missed it
craggy dagger
you prolly killed them
molten oasis
Same
shadow wind
you prolly killed them
Yeah probably
molten oasis
But I got to be an escapee, i think that part of the game was so cool
shadow wind
you missed the best cutscene ever
Don’t worry I’ve seen the clips
molten oasis
you missed the best cutscene ever
The part where ||she snaps the guys neck?||
molten oasis
That was fire
shadow wind
Is there anything in the game that’s actually missable?
Cause I’m so worried about that in my steel soul file
molten oasis
You literally did
craggy dagger
a couple ones that are choice locked
molten oasis
Missing all the needle upgrades lol
craggy dagger
||like silkshot having 3 different variants||
shadow wind
Well you can still do it in ||act 3||
shadow wind
||like silkshot having 3 different variants||
Oh yeah those are all cool
craggy dagger
||but if you buy everything from 12th architect then it locks you out of one of the choices||
shadow wind
||I’m going for the true one||
craggy dagger
that one is fun
shadow wind
I bought ||the architect one|| first run
I just think the ||weaver one|| looks the coolest
molten oasis
I wish the ||rune spell|| was better
I think that spell was hella cool but inconsistent
shadow wind
100% agree
You don’t even use ||cross stitch|| in the speedrun
Makes me kinda sad but it makes sense
molten oasis
What’s the main spell you use for speedruns?
shadow wind
Spear
molten oasis
I see
cyan smelt
people got lazy when they found out you don't have to beat it
real prairie
people got lazy when they found out you don't have to beat it
Did you not? Hahaha
real prairie
I meant did you not have to lol
cyan smelt
nope
real prairie
I did thinking you had to at least once
forest arrow
Nah you didn’t have to too, I thought the same
real prairie
Ah well
forest arrow
after Chien Pao I didn’t do it lol
real prairie
They were all easy tbh
forest arrow
Yeah they were, fair for anyone that wanted to farm
thanks to them we got the shinies
real prairie
I beat 2 with iron hands 2 with banded Urshifu, they really were piss easy haha
Honestly probably would have been better if they let you catch them with a chance at being shiny during raids. Would have had people really putting in effort to get like the shinies
short quiver
4 more days chat
shadow wind
It’s time to make a change
bold geode
Too bad I'm not a Gothitelle player
Oh @rustic mountain So I found out a new thing about me
Apparently whenever I'm in deep thought about Pokemon I apparently look pissed off 
oak finch
you're just locked in
molten oasis
maybe
foggy lodge
Reg H got me prepping against Blaziken
molten oasis
with bax right?
foggy lodge
This is such a Mickey Mouse format
molten oasis
neat
foggy lodge
Its fine cuz hits by the special side against Archaludon and fire against Gholdengo
And obviously good into Gambit too
Allows the team to run Baxcalibur Rilla Electabuzz basically
Cuz otherwise you would have a lot of problems into Gholdengo
oak finch
This is such a Mickey Mouse format
its such an optimised format too with so many seasons
we need new mons 😭
or natdex champions..
foggy lodge
I need champions
oak finch
the combinations being cooked up in the first full natdex champions regulation will be insane
foggy lodge
I can't take another regulation of SV
molten oasis
i like this game but its SV has been too long
oak finch
i like this game but its SV has been too long
at least its playable on switch 2 now 😭
foggy lodge
I want to play Pokémon but not VGC
So I was waiting for Legends Z-A but after seeing the gameplay idk dude lol
oak finch
whats bad with za gameplay? seems like legends to me
foggy lodge
Its the city I think
Like being trapped in lumiose city
The battle system looks super cool but i don't know
I will have to wait until I see other people play the game
oak finch
yeah buts its much bigger, and has the rooftops, those pokegardens and stuff too. it'll be the same amunt of land as arceus i think
low viper
The battle system looks super cool but i don't know
I played the demo at PAX West this year, I think it has the potential to be really fun but the 20 minutes we got was very weak lol
Sneaking up on people kinda invalidates the fights and makes them way too easy imo, the boss fight was alright. I think I want to try and do a blind nuzlocke since it'll be way easier to do that in Z-A than PLA
visual flume
When should I use pp ups on moves
I know 5 pp moves usally should but is it necessary outside of that
low viper
Not really
upper zealot
just use it on the moves you think you’ll be clicking a lot
visual flume
Alr thanks
dense latch
I know 5 pp moves usally should but is it necessary outside of that
it's probably best to use it on 5 and 10 pp moves just in case, i always max out all of them just in case if i do have the resources in game
5, 10 and 15 pp moves is what i tend to max, games at least in vgc don't tend to last long enough to warrant much else
rustic mountain
This is such a Mickey Mouse format
ocean pawn
So I was waiting for Legends Z-A but after seeing the gameplay idk dude lol
Z-a will not be what vgc is played in next year
foggy lodge
I know I just want to play Pokémon
foggy lodge
I played the demo at PAX West this year, I think it has the potential to be real...
Yeah 20 minutes doesn't let you do much and it was just early game
rustic mountain
pla was dope im lookin forward to lza
bold geode
clever cliff
unpopular opinion, quick feet should prevent paralysis
shadow wind
Nah that’s a good take
It’s not even that strong
And guts takes away the half damage
molten oasis
Good take
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
molten oasis
Ok
Ah no it does act like guts
You still take the burn damage, and there isn’t a paralysis orb like there is flame orb
molten oasis
It ignores the half speed part
shadow wind
So the burn damage = para chance
Can we make toxic boost stronger?
Like it’s just worse guts
On like one mon
cyan smelt
Buff poison heal
shadow wind
Nah screw poison heal
Death to big stall
I think it’d be fine if toxic boost was better than guts
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
shadow wind
Actually Zangoose would be pretty good with better guts
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
dapper crag
Yeah
shadow wind
It’s literally only Zangoose though
Signature ability
I feel like they could make it better than guts and it’d be fine
Poison already hurts more than burn so the trade off is there
Has marvel scale ever been used
molten oasis
Like what if it was 2x instead of 1.5x
That’s 230 attack
That’s too much
Have you ever seen mega Mawile? or ursaluna?
shadow wind
Yeah that’s my point
Ursaluna is at 210 if we’re looking at the numbers like that
Except he’s mono normal
molten oasis
I don’t think toxic boost needs a buff just need to be on a better mon
molten oasis
Guts was mostly niche until Ursa, and ig machamp could use it ok
shadow wind
I don’t think toxic boost needs a buff just need to be on a better mon
It just feels weird being a signature ability but just being a strict downgrade from guts
shadow wind
You just got exposed for clicking the suggested spread button
I know that EV spread like the back of my hand
cyan smelt
Tera grass and safety goggles seems redundant
shadow wind
God forbid a fire type want to resist water and ground
oak finch
You just got exposed for clicking the suggested spread button
thats part of the joke i hit the default build 😭
oak finch
Tera grass and safety goggles seems redundant
im not encountering many amoongus anymore, but idk could go for mirror herb
cyan smelt
Go assault vest
cyan smelt
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2448883925 is this the raghav?
oak finch
man i feel like im running out of time for this GC team
dapper crag
man i feel like im running out of time for this GC team
False
oak finch
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2448883925 is this the raghav...
it may be
cyan smelt
i need to test my bulldoze wp metagross team but i doubt it'll be good
cyan smelt
i need to just test this team and forget about ranking and stuff
dapper crag
i need to just test this team and forget about ranking and stuff
I agree
dapper crag
Tera Ice Tyranitar is cruel 
real prairie
Morning
real prairie
Its Dandadan Thursday with no Dandadan 😭
oak finch
why is my pasrs not loading teams
mine crashed my whole browser 😭
cyan smelt
god i love water shuriken
cyan smelt
i'm gonna abandon this team though, it's crap
oak finch
my team looks crazy but i think im lowkey cooking
8-3 currently
very rough draft im still figuring out some moves and evs, its a modified tailwind/rain team similar to whats dominating regionals
cyan smelt
my team building skills are crap
oak finch
mine are okay i feel but ive only built restricted teams
its only 3-2 idk why you'd ragequit
oak finch
perish mode
oak finch
quickest win yet, i dont think im THAT good..
think i need to get into some higher ELO
oak finch
i feel like im getting lucky, i wanna keep going to 50ish matches before i sleep
oak finch
metagross kinda bad
cyan smelt
you might want to replace parting shot on incin with u-turn if you're running AV
oak finch
good point
i havent used parting shot yet because my matchups have been good lol
im using the PASRS thing too
cyan smelt
my team struggled against rain and tr so maybe ninetales and ape can help with that
oak finch
possibly
im so low elo i havent encountered a trick room team yet, or if i have they havent been able to set it up
cyan smelt
it's usually indeedee + tr setter or porygon2 + ursaluna
oak finch
yeah im not gonna be able to tell where this sucks till im playing against some better players, right now i can setup nasty plot on the first or second turn without fail
fake out + nastly plot first turn 90% of the time lol
cyan smelt
just wait til you face indeedee sneasler, you can't do that
oak finch
you cursed me 💀
oak finch
yeah but its 4-1 rn LOL
cyan smelt
rain is too dominant atm
oak finch
1100 elo more likely
cyan smelt
think i'm gonna add blaziken to ninetales, garchomp. ape and greninja
oak finch
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2448949175
tera blasting with no tera 😭
PASRS isnt very useful when its all just "won 13 of 13 games"
cyan smelt
why did you fake out in psychic terrain
real prairie
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2448949175
tera blasting with...
its a normal type move without tera and Indeedee is a normal type so gets STAB
oak finch
why did you fake out in psychic terrain
low game knowledge
cyan smelt
eh i can't talk i thought wp metagross would be a good idea
oak finch
what is wp
oak finch
eh i can't talk i thought wp metagross would be a good idea
actually mainly i suck at showdown and forget how to tell when stuffs happening
oak finch
just loses hardcore to rain
yeah oops i see
oak finch
actually mainly i suck at showdown and forget how to tell when stuffs happening
i dont like reading all the text and effects how showdown does, but i know i must learn
real prairie
why did you fake out in psychic terrain
TBF i just did this in one of my games, Sand was up though, hard to see the terrain 😭
oak finch
force of habit mostly, this win streak im literally repeating the same play over and over till i get to a level where some critical thinking is needed
oak finch
thats the strat there
cyan smelt
you're just playing against sand though
real prairie
which is usually a bad MU for me haha
oak finch
streak finally broken 13-1 but it was close
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2448952661-g7w1v8us2vrngvcj9xh52kxboxsc5c7pw
real prairie
waxen dock
How did you end up in the tour?
I actually got to to the middle
To place 28 i think
How?
A mon named ursaluna and ursaluna?
oak finch
its a zoroark
waxen dock
its a zoroark
Oh
real prairie
ive had 2 on the field at the same time before, both using hypervoice 🤣
oak finch
https://devoncorp.press/resources/the-release-of-pasrs-6-2
wtf im using 5 and i thought that was newest 😭
up in elo 1200ish i seem to be losing finally
real prairie
wtf im using 5 and i thought that was newest 😭
keep an eye on the website lol
oak finch
i swear i got it from the website
cyan smelt
The newest version is from the discord server
oak finch
alright 17-3 with this team but all in low elo, and two instant forfeits so really 15 wins
cyan smelt
Better than whatever I can come up with
oak finch
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reghbo3-2448954135-9rmfpc9ed3j27ic...
you need to switch out more btw
dont be afraid
wish he had stayed in and died to the struggle like a man /s
cyan smelt
It was satisfying watching that
oak finch
Better than whatever I can come up with
i scribbled this team in a notebook two hours ago its going to be cooked when i get to 1200
oak finch
It was satisfying watching that
fr
real prairie
wish he had stayed in and died to the struggle like a man /s
i should have Taunted 2 turns earlier when i encored the first time
but i got the extra atk drop so all good
Literally still cary my notes around from my first regional in my coat for no reason lol
oak finch
Literally still cary my notes around from my first regional in my coat for no re...
ive got two notebooks of notes from vgcguide and youtube, then a big project book for crafting teams and strategies
cyan smelt
Idk whether ninetales, garchomp, Blaziken, ape, greninja and gholdengo is a good team
Seems like it'd struggle against sand
And probably rain
hallow quartz
any teams for dawn wing or dusk mane?
real prairie
took my first L today, time for a break. someone in 1600 https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reghbo3-2448966346-0tfah382whds9tqpp8w3xt8sbwee10opw
my 6th needs to be a primarina counter i think
real prairie
controlling the weather is literally the only reason people are using ninetails
cyan smelt
i just dunno good partners for ninetales, garchomp seems good and so does ape
real prairie
if you are going Garchomp just go TTar tbh
cyan smelt
i thought ninetales garchomp was good though
real prairie
took my first L today, time for a break. someone in 1600 https://replay.pokemons...
TBF on review, no reason i shouldnt be targetting Primarina with Electroshot turn 1
when is the deadline for GC teams?
cyan smelt
There's just so much to cover for, rain, sun, sand, snow, balance, hard tr, fast psyspam, tailwind
real prairie
yep, you are guaranteed to have bad matchups somewhere
I think i might just go Maushold for my 6th
Maushold @ Wide Lens
Ability: Technician
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Follow Me
- After You
- Protect
- Population Bomb
Pop bomb going to just kill everything i struggle with atm
after you to enable specs Politoed
im glad he forfeited, was in for a LONG game LOL https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reghbo3-2449030433-qjlses4ph4ann68j29ui5ngm6g3csrvpw
waxen dock
real prairie
why am i facing max speed Archaludon with Stamina
chrome knot
for fun
waxen dock
and i lost cuz my opponent got flame body burn while i dint get a double protect
dense latch
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2449070024-uevcy2c60ndwhy9g8w...
lmaoo what a game
fake tears clutch
real prairie
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2449070024-uevcy2c60ndwhy9g8w...
Love encore antics
molten oasis
I lost to my internet dying twice in games I know I won so that was annoying
real prairie
did you see mine @next stump ? 
pulsar cloak
why am i facing max speed Archaludon with Stamina
It did top 8 toronto
molten oasis
Otherwise I’m doing good today
real prairie
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reghbo3-2448954135-9rmfpc9ed3j27ic...
@next stump
real prairie
It did top 8 toronto
FML, something else to deal with
real prairie
rotund shadow
This feels like the right channel to put this in (lmk if it's not). I'm going to be running a pokemon draft league! It will be starting on October 12th and there is a google form to fill out as an application for it. There will be a total of 12 players (myself included) that will be playing over the course of 7 regular season games and a top 8 postseason bracket.
Here is the link to the form if you would like to join in: https://forms.gle/1re5vhxhojy3rH1q8
real prairie
This feels like the right channel to put this in (lmk if it's not). I'm going to...
nothing wrong with putting it here, but #1046572041421197352 is probably better
real prairie
This feels like the right channel to put this in (lmk if it's not). I'm going to...
What rules are you running for the league, this seems like its an important detail lol
rotund shadow
1v1 singles format, 12 pokemon per team, 125 points per team, you can selected one restricted pokemon (each are 21-30 points), we will use Tera captains (30 total points for those and up to 3). Games will be played Sundays at 1:00 EST.
rotund shadow
nothing wrong with putting it here, but <#1046572041421197352> is probably bette...
Totally missed that channel
chrome knot
bye monke…
bold geode
bye monke…
WHA WHY
molten oasis
LOL
molten oasis
prime vector
Anyone that could give me some pointers as a complete noob to Competetive? I want to build a team consisting of Dragonite as a physical sweeper but im clueless to what to add help setup, planning on a dragon, fairy, steel core with a grimsnarl as the fairy atleast
stone trellis
Are you playing singles or doubles?
prime vector
Planning on doing doubles
Im personally breeding all my mons and so far I have 5IV grim and Dragonite
stone trellis
You don't need to...
prime vector
Ye I know just torturing myself for the sake of the "experience" 😭
stone trellis
You can just use Bottle Caps to immediately set certain IVs to 31.
Anyway, do you know the whole situation with competitive right now?
prime vector
If I understand correctly you can bring 2 restricted pokemon atm right=
stone trellis
We kind of have two entirely different formats for ranked ladder and official tournaments.
Yeah, and mythicals count as a restricted legendary.
stone trellis
We kind of have two entirely different formats for ranked ladder and official to...
Official tournaments (online or otherwise) use a different ruleset called Regulation H, which only allows the use of regular Pokemon (no legendaries or restricteds and no Paradox Pokemon).
prime vector
Am I able to play that? Or is that ONLY for official tournaments?
As in, just queueing up for ranked doubles that has Regulation H
stone trellis
You can only play Reg H on Showdown and online/in-person tournaments, as far as I know.
So no in-game ranked battles.
Those are using Reg J.
prime vector
Reg J sounds horrible haha
stone trellis
It's stupid and convoluted, I know.
prime vector
I dont love the fact that I kinda have to bring 2 legends/mythicals to be able to compete
stone trellis
Reg J sounds horrible haha
It's basically Reg I, but with Arceus and Magearna sometimes popping up.
stone trellis
I dont love the fact that I kinda have to bring 2 legends/mythicals to be able t...
Speaking as a man who's been a competitive player for around 8 months, you may not like a Pokemon until you actually use it in battles.
Shit, things like Ogerpon and Ice Rider Calyrex have become some of my favorites because I've used them so much during my brief journey as a competitive player.
prime vector
Thats fair, only thing I worry about is the fact that I need specific IV's on diff legends depending on what type of team I make, and from what I understand I cant really chose for example a 0 IV speed on something for a trick room team
stone trellis
You can trade for those.
You should only really worry about 0 Speed, 0 Attack isn't that big of an issue.
And 0 Speed is only something you should concern yourself with when it comes to Ice Rider and maybe a few other niche ones.
The paradox legendaries (and Terapagos) all have fixed IVs, so you also don't really need to care about those.
prime vector
Yeah, I will say im on violet and kinda wanna use Raging bolt for example, but how would I even get one? I dont really WANT to trade away a violet exclusive for them
Am I just cooked and need a 2nd switch and also scarlet on it?
real prairie
There are reasonable traders but make sure to verify the authenticity of pokemon
Use the trading channels if you are unsure
prime vector
Well I get 100 shines a day when I wondertrade but those I just release haha, but I dont really have 6 shinies to trade off only 4 that are my main mons
stone trellis
Do you have six shinies?
There's this guy called Ric in the trading channels who trades damn near every legendary for enough shinies.
6 for regular ones like Raging Bolt or Tornadus and 8 for restricteds.
Shit, I could even get Bolt for you and trade it.
prime vector
I do have 1 BEAUTIFUL shiny so far its a pink lil pig
Been wanting to get into shiny hunting aswell but the game is so laggy in a lot of places that its kinda frustrating
stone trellis
So gather the shinies you know are legit and trade them to me or Ric.
I promise that I'll get you whichever legendary you need even if you give them to me.
I have four shinies I'm ready to trade anyway.
prime vector
I'll do this, I'll do good bits of research of a team that I want including 2 legends/mythicals and then if I am missing any from Scarlet I'll hit you up
Practise a bit on showdown to see what sticks with me aswell
stone trellis
I can help you figure out what you want to use in DMs or in here.
And you can play matches with me on Showdown.
prime vector
I'll add you on discord and I'll have you as my competetive wing man
stone trellis
Bet.
short quiver
3 more days chat
stone trellis
For what?
stone trellis
Oh.
short quiver
they start the 28th right
solid frigate
@rustic mountain
fringe dagger
would you say this is a solid core for dozogiri?
craggy dagger
uh
prolly
not psych up a9
doubt it can really do much unless you kill off tatsugiri with a toxmic orb
like
the team is fine but you might wannna revise some things and game mechanics
shadow wind
Could always go Ape with A9
craggy dagger
psych up a9 tho
shadow wind
Yeah not that A9
Guy is larping CSR when paired with Muk
Would the Calyrexes be as strong without their signature moves?
Like obviously not but I’m wondering if they’d still be super meta
I feel like half of what makes them broken is their moves
Imagine if CSR had to use shadow ball or CIR had to use icicle crash
shadow wind
Like I feel like that genuinely fixes them a lot
Cause astral barrage is 2 shadow balls at once…
Icicle spear CIR
But it’s gamefreak so we just have to live with them
I don’t even mind the restricted signature moves that are 100/100 like moongeist beam or collision course
I think those ones are healthy
dapper crag
That’s so true
real prairie
short quiver
Imagine if CSR had to use shadow ball or CIR had to use icicle crash
i mean csr shadow ball would for sure still hurt
thats what 165 base spa stab ghost move
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
forest arrow
they start the 28th right
Pretty sure it’s the 26th
shadow wind
i mean csr shadow ball would for sure still hurt
Yeah but now Indeedee cooks it
Follow me gets way stronger
short quiver
Yeah but now Indeedee cooks it
indeedee cooks it anyways being immune to astral barrage anyways
short quiver
Follow me gets way stronger
doesnt csr learn snarl
shadow wind
It does
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
short quiver
so it doesnt need astral barrage it can bully indeedee anyways with snarl
shadow wind
What are you not understanding
Without astral barrage a CSR wouldn’t be able to threaten indeedees partner
short quiver
you said, not using astral barrage indeedee would punish shadow ball csr with follow me
solution: snarl
shadow wind
The non stab 55 BP move?
short quiver
delete the problem= no more problem
short quiver
The non stab 55 BP move?
with 165 base spa and possibly a lorb? yes.
shadow wind
Psychic would probably do more
real prairie
TOMORROW?????
shadow wind
Probably the 26th somewhere
short quiver
bro lives in the future
shadow wind
Time zones…
real prairie
Time zones…
which means they techincally do live in the future haha
short quiver
which means they techincally do live in the future haha
see
its only 5pm on the 25th for me
real prairie
10pm for me
shadow wind
If that’s your definition of future then sure
short quiver
the word future means anytime later than the current
so yes, thats the future to me
shadow wind
Breeding
There’s plenty of breeding guides online
But the easiest way is to get a 0 speed iv ditto
real prairie
Appreciate this isn't the trading channel (I've already asked there) anyone mind touch trading with me to evolve my Politoed for GC
heady onyx
Get the ones with 0iv where needed
it often doesn't matter outside of Speed. If you determine you'd need 0 speed IV then you can hard reset with a savestate if it's bound to a specific location (like most legendaries) or breed with a 0 IV foreign DItto
lofty tartan
it just said it starts the 26th for me 😭
People have been getting them before the 26th. Gamestop employees just hand stuff out.
jade dust
I can’t wait for tera types to go away so caly shadow is guaranteed to die to sucker punch
cyan smelt
Sash
jade dust
Means can’t use a life orb
shadow wind
I can’t wait for tera types to go away so caly shadow is guaranteed to die to su...
That’s what I’m saying
Or Zama gets hit by ground type moves
shadow wind
That’s what I’m saying
So it’s pretty clear that Koraidon after Tera is gone is going to be terrible right?
lofty tartan
Unclear. Things with 4x weaknesses have done fine in the past. Look at Ttar.
shadow wind
There’s no fighting spread move though
lofty tartan
Hydreigon has also done fine in the past.
Is your standard here really "4x means Koraidon bad"?
Because that's just a hot take.
hallow quartz
has a zekrom miraidon team ever worked?
i’ve seen videos on the team and wanted to try it out
shadow wind
Hydreigon has also done fine in the past.
Is your standard here really "4x me...
4x weak to an extremely strong type
That is my standard yes
lofty tartan
Hydreigon is weak to the same type.
shadow wind
Dgleam is extremely common
And if they bring flutter mane back Koraidon is actively setting it up
lofty tartan
So you position and KO the Flutter Mane, that dies to a stiff breeze.
lofty tartan
I don't like these arguments either.
shadow wind
But looking at how popular flutter mane was and even Dgleam Miraidon I just find it hard to believe in those formats Koraidon will have a fighting chance
lofty tartan
But 4x weakness making a mon bad is a hot take, because we've seen 4x weak mons do fine. It's not just weakness that makes a mon good or bad.
lofty tartan
But looking at how popular flutter mane was and even Dgleam Miraidon I just find...
So you position and KO the Miraidon. You're bringing it back to this area lol
shadow wind
CSR exists but they almost always ran sash pre tera
shadow wind
So you position and KO the Miraidon. You're bringing it back to this area lol
Not really
If your restricted is weak to an extremely common move in the format it’s going to struggle
In terms of hydreigon he’s not your restricted
It’s just hard to make a mon work when it’s a minefield of fairies
lofty tartan
It'll be skill-leveraged, yes, but saying something is bad because it's 4x weak to a type and then saying "i'm not doing the rps" and immediately taking a hard right into rps arguments is undeniably silly lol
This is just Groudon cope 
shadow wind
Don’t bring him into this
lofty tartan
Furthermore, there is a lot of supposition on if Paradoxes are even coming back, because we've seen that their counterparts, Ultra Beasts, have been removed before
shadow wind
It'll be skill-leveraged, yes, but saying something is bad because it's 4x weak ...
Thing was I didn’t say there was no counter play I just said he was going have to work 18x harder and most people won’t want to use him and by my standard means he “sucks” or is worse than now
lofty tartan
Sucks =/= worse than now. Lots of things get worse without Tera lol
shadow wind
Sucks =/= worse than now. Lots of things get worse without Tera lol
In my vocab those are the same
lofty tartan
Sucks means hot garbage or practically unusable.
Well, that's fine, it's still not a synonym lmao.
lofty tartan
I mean you can interpret something some way, but that still means you're wrong if you prioritize your definitions over facts.
lofty tartan
Yeah if you see an elephant as a cat, that's fine, but you're still wrong.
shadow wind
You can pull up any definition you want I know how I meant it and if this is just a miscommunication then why are you treating it like I’m spewing nonsense
lofty tartan
Like if you can't use words as their true meanings then you have difficulty communicating with everyone
That's why language exists the way it does.
shadow wind
I made my point clear now so you can either see that or keep babbling on about how you don’t want to come to an agreement
lofty tartan
Nah I don't need to change your mind. lol 
craggy dagger
foggy lodge
So it’s pretty clear that Koraidon after Tera is gone is going to be terrible ri...
I don't think is even gonna be because it's weak to fairy just because it will no longer be able to launch tera fire flare blitz in the sun lol
Like its the move that deals the most damage on every Koraidon's moveset
So losing the real nuke hurts it a lot
craggy dagger
it’ll still be okay i think
foggy lodge
The other nukes it can run would be like close combat life orb or scale shot loaded dice but they don't reach the power of flare blitz
foggy lodge
I saw Wolfey's Koraidon flare blitz deal slightly less damage than close combat into non tera Miraidon
craggy dagger
i don’t think it’ll be terrible but it def won’t be as good as it was with tera
shadow wind
In the sun flare blitz and cc do the same damage
foggy lodge
I think Koraidon will some buff to work in the future
craggy dagger
I saw Wolfey's Koraidon flare blitz deal slightly less damage than close combat ...
that’s a good thing isn’t it..?
miraidon resists fire
foggy lodge
Miraidon will still be usable for sure but idk about Koraidon
craggy dagger
shadow wind
Maybe it was Tera fire
foggy lodge
Yeah it was tera fire
craggy dagger
oh nvm
shadow wind
Yeah
foggy lodge
Its just to represent how big of a nuke tera fire flare blitz in the sun is
shadow wind
Cc 120 x 1.5 = 180
Blitz 120 x 1.5 x 1.5 x .5 =135
hallow quartz
has a zekrom miraidon team ever worked?
i’ve seen videos on the team and wanted ...
?
craggy dagger
ummm
shadow wind
Only way I can see Koraidon doing anything is if Flutter mane doesn’t exist
craggy dagger
not really?
craggy dagger
Only way I can see Koraidon doing anything is if Flutter mane doesn’t exist
or just run flutter mirror
that usually works
cyan smelt
Does no tera make zacian good again
shadow wind
or just run flutter mirror
Speed tie
And if that’s what you want then yeah sure it works
craggy dagger
methinks it’ll just be in the position that zacian was in reg H and I
foggy lodge
Idk I think it could even be running sash in the future if we are that desperate to use Koraidon LMAO
shadow wind
But intrepid sword nerf and no dmax makes it about average
dense latch
then it’s even weaker
shadow wind
Idk I think it could even be running sash in the future if we are that desperate...
See that’s why CSR will likely be fine with no Tera cause sash is an amazing item on in
foggy lodge
So I don't know
dense latch
yea idk about korai post tera formats
craggy dagger
See that’s why CSR will likely be fine with no Tera cause sash is an amazing ite...
in the future
a pokemon will get fake out and scrappy 
-# not counting kanga
short quiver
yea idk about korai post tera formats
im still gonna use it i trust my boi
craggy dagger
and will ruin shadow rider
shadow wind
Mega Incin
cyan smelt
Looking forward to parental bond coming back
foggy lodge
Kangaskhan shits on CSR
shadow wind
Yeah it does
short quiver
theres a lot that shits on csr
foggy lodge
CSR ran away with Mega Kangaskhan not being in the game for way too long
craggy dagger
Kangaskhan shits on CSR
i know 😭
foggy lodge
Scrappy + fake out + sucker punch
shadow wind
And CIR thank god has to stay an ice type now
foggy lodge
Sucker punch kills it through the sash lmao
short quiver
Scrappy + fake out + sucker punch
double sucker punch 💀 would csr just die to that?
shadow wind
What kinda question is that
foggy lodge
How did sash mons do in the Kangaskhan meta games
short quiver
How did sash mons do in the Kangaskhan meta games
probably awful
shadow wind
It’s a 4x hit twice
dense latch
And CIR thank god has to stay an ice type now
i have to tank astral barrages raw now 😭
foggy lodge
Was sash even a thing in those formats
shadow wind
Bro just drop the horse and play a cool restricted, Calyrex has infected your mind
dense latch
it’s probably gonna be a bit before we get restricteds anyways
shadow wind
Oh for sure
dense latch
Bro just drop the horse and play a cool restricted, Calyrex has infected your mi...
but glacial lance
foggy lodge
The horses have grown on me a bit
short quiver
im still using koraidon once tera goes away. ill keep using my scale shot set
shadow wind
I still hate them with every ounce of my being
cyan smelt
Groudon has infected ur mind
shadow wind
Nothing will ever make me like them
foggy lodge
I hate A9 more than any restricted
shadow wind
Groudon has infected ur mind
Nah I infected Groudons mind
foggy lodge
I hate A9 more than any legendary
short quiver
is this a vendetta against aurora veil
shadow wind
Just run sun 😝
craggy dagger
I hate A9 more than any legendary
but why
foggy lodge
This is a vendetta against blizzard on the 109 speed mon
craggy dagger
it’s so pretty 
craggy dagger
This is a vendetta against blizzard on the 109 speed mon
oh
short quiver
This is a vendetta against blizzard on the 109 speed mon
🤨
shadow wind
I’m so excited that Groudon actually gets better without Tera
dense latch
champions can’t come any sooner i choked 1700 bo1 now im tired of reg h
shadow wind
champions can’t come any sooner i choked 1700 bo1 now im tired of reg h
I’ve been tired of Reg H since they announced it for the second time
foggy lodge
I tell you reg H its a Mickey Mouse format cuz it has me worrying about the 81 spa mon just because it can freeze me
short quiver
champions can’t come any sooner i choked 1700 bo1 now im tired of reg h
isnt the first regulation of champions gonna be very similar to our current reg h?
shadow wind
isnt the first regulation of champions gonna be very similar to our current reg ...
I would end it all
Not more reg h please god
dense latch
let me be a bit delusional
short quiver
i mean reg h with megas instead of tera
shadow wind
Just get rid of Tera please
foggy lodge
I'm actually terrified about champion first regulation because in the trailers all of the mons shown are also in SV
craggy dagger
i don’t mind tera as a gimmick
foggy lodge
So maybe we just get champions reg H and its just a reskin
short quiver
I'm actually terrified about champion first regulation because in the trailers a...
so probably reg h part 3
shadow wind
I’m sick of Tera
craggy dagger
i hate dynamax with a burning passion
cyan smelt
I hate megas
craggy dagger
what do you mean the opposing pokemon can double their health pool for three fucking turns in a double battle
shadow wind
I LOVE Z moves
dense latch
the one non gimmick format i played was my favorite ever
foggy lodge
If we get Z Moves we need OTS
cyan smelt
Did U play crash
shadow wind
Oh yeah I forgot OTS is new
dense latch
just give us ots regardless of if we 100% need it or not
short quiver
If we get Z Moves we need OTS
can we keep ots in general
foggy lodge
Imagine saying "I'm inna good position" and then Iron Hands nukes you with iron kick of 1000000000 bolts out of nowhere
craggy dagger
lmao
foggy lodge
Also PLEASE DON'T MAKE INCINEROAR LEGAL ON DAY 1 OF CHAMPIONS
craggy dagger
if anything
gen 9 for competitive is a really nice intro
short quiver
Also PLEASE DON'T MAKE INCINEROAR LEGAL ON DAY 1 OF CHAMPIONS
💀
craggy dagger
you get a lot more information and such
shadow wind
Everything after is going to feel like a walk in the park that’s for sure
cyan smelt
Don't make dozo legal day 1 of champions
short quiver
dont make sneasler legal at all in champions
shadow wind
I get to click super effective moves without making 18 50/50s in a 1v1 end game
craggy dagger
imagine playing gen 7 competitive and crying cuz people start dancing on the screen to then the tides
foggy lodge
There are some mons that are only balanced in legendaries metagames
Like Incin and Dondozo
shadow wind
imagine playing gen 7 competitive and crying cuz people start dancing on the scr...
Would rather deal with a nuke on one turn than a fairy type Calyrex shadow
Clicking cm next to Clef behind screens
dense latch
i’m surprised we never got a no tera gen 9 format
shadow wind
Although I’d rather play against that than MausApe
cyan smelt
I hope girlboss tinkaton is legal day 1 of champions
shadow wind
God screw MausApe
foggy lodge
Good luck Mausape is gonna be available day 1 of champions
cyan smelt
I'm bout to use mausape because of how good it is
short quiver
i’m surprised we never got a no tera gen 9 format
im not
cyan smelt
I've held out for so long
shadow wind
Good luck Mausape is gonna be available day 1 of champions
Looks like I’m not playing champions
foggy lodge
Click expanding force
short quiver
I'm bout to use mausape because of how good it is
dense latch
i’m surprised we never got a no tera gen 9 format
they did it in gen 8 and iirc one ruleset in usum 2019 didnt have zmoves
cyan smelt
Some teams even have sneasler and mausape
dense latch
so it made some sense
craggy dagger
Would rather deal with a nuke on one turn than a fairy type Calyrex shadow
trust me
you don’t
you think you’re okay cuz they have a super weak coverage move and you resist their stab
then they use their z move and it’s over 😭
cuz you don’t get ots you have no clue what z move they have
if they have it at all
foggy lodge
I think tera on reg H has been more balanced
shadow wind
Man that sounds like heaven compared to Tera formats
foggy lodge
Tera on reg I was awful
shadow wind
If I’m being completely honest
craggy dagger
Man that sounds like heaven compared to Tera formats
i mean
if you’d rather want to be on edge and be super paranoid cuz you don’t know what they’ll do
then sure
craggy dagger
i’d rather tera and open team sheets
shadow wind
There’s never a safe play
craggy dagger
than whatever the fuck gen 7 was
short quiver
Into 2 mons with 140 spdef
solution: use white kyurem
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.4
short quiver
Acting like that changes anything
170 base spa stab
foggy lodge
hello friends i made a draft for P2 and i idk what to put
shadow wind
And it’s a 70 BP move 😭😭😭
foggy lodge
and don't say regular ursa i don't want to use regular ursa
short quiver
And it’s a 70 BP move 😭😭😭
isnt it actually 105 cuz of stab
shadow wind
hello friends i made a draft for P2 and i idk what to put
How did bro get every single Mon
Oh wait is that the draft box?
shadow wind
isnt it actually 105 cuz of stab
🤓
foggy lodge
Yeah
molten oasis
hello friends i made a draft for P2 and i idk what to put
Hm
shadow wind
It’s actually not a 105 BP move because that’s now how that works
It’s a damage multiplier not a base power multiplier
molten oasis
Dengo incin amoonguss Ursa hydreigon
dense latch
hello friends i made a draft for P2 and i idk what to put
you can never go wrong with the first 4
short quiver
bp of 70, calculated with 170 base SpA and Stab against a mon with base 140 SpD
cyan smelt
Rn I'm considering mausape greninja arch, peli and basc
molten oasis
I think p2 works with p2 ursa and not much else
cyan smelt
Or maybe sinistcha
molten oasis
I haven’t seen much else
foggy lodge
btw pokealex is hosting a reg h ladder tour tomorrow for anyone interested
craggy dagger
We 4hko’ing with that one
lol
foggy lodge
I think p2 works with p2 ursa and not much else
I've seen some without Ursaluna
But like
There are only two real P2 archetypes which are basically Gholdengo balance or Ursaluna tailroom
foggy lodge
Every single team is a variance of those two concepts
Because I don't want to
I want to try to make something original
molten oasis
What does p2 even accomplish elsewhere
cyan smelt
Which tera is that thing anyway
shadow wind
Not get dire claw slept
foggy lodge
Fighting
cyan smelt
P2 is just bait for knock off
foggy lodge
But I was considering like tera fairy with shadow ball
To hit Gholdengo and Annihilape
craggy dagger
What does p2 even accomplish elsewhere
you 
cyan smelt
What's the reg h equivalent of zacian
cyan smelt
Tinkaton was good in like reg a and then people found out it was trash
foggy lodge
I'm gonna make a roulette with the whole box of draft spin it 5 times and whatever it gives me I'm gonna lock that into the GC
wujuu
molten oasis
That’s not a good idea but ok
shadow wind
What's the reg h equivalent of zacian
What’s the Reg H equivalent of Groudon 😔
cyan smelt
Regular ninetales
shadow wind
Eh looks like every other Reg H team
cyan smelt
Should I spin a wheel with the gen 9 dex and see what I get
molten oasis
omfg this team is terrible
Maybe don’t spin a wheel on your team
foggy lodge
Should I spin a wheel with the gen 9 dex and see what I get
Do it it can be fun
foggy lodge
Maybe don’t spin a wheel on your team
ok now you will have to make me a p2 team
molten oasis
Why am I making you a p2 team
cyan smelt
P2 ursa amoonguss
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/e8911594ea1bb40b @foggy lodge I didn’t think about this at all
Here ya go
molten oasis
Holy shit Azumarill LOL
I was like “how do I give you a p2 tr sweeper without being basic”
And I was scrolling and was like “yeah that’s fine”
cyan smelt
Everyone using primarina but azumarill is the cool water/fairy
bold geode
I think p2 works with p2 ursa and not much else
Deadass I think P2 teams without Gholdengo sometimes are a little scarier
molten oasis
He wants no dengo no Ursa
rustic mountain
cyan smelt
Maybe I should just go peli arch basc mausape sinistcha for the gc
Seems solid enough
waxen dock
Maybe I should just go peli arch basc mausape sinistcha for the gc
Im using my normal team for the gc
rustic mountain
like mono normal?
waxen dock
like mono normal?
like the team i use regularly,not something special thats what i meant
rustic mountain
gotcha
imma just use my rain team ive been using for awhile
not enough time to practice w/ something else long enough to have even half the comfort level i have w/ the team
cyan smelt
Is farigiraf any good this reg? Feel like I haven't seen it much
cyan smelt
I kinda want to use it and gliscor
real prairie
Is farigiraf any good this reg? Feel like I haven't seen it much
It's not, no. Oddly enough it seems to fair better in the higher power curve. The only thing it really stops this Reg is Gambit sucker punches which frankly are quite easy to play around
real prairie
Technically yeah but it just seems to struggle more this reg
Maybe an offensive set might work, it has decent base SpAtk
Specs farig could be funny
cyan smelt
Was thinking blunder policy gliscor with farigiraf
But then I need something for rain and something for tr and something for fast psyspam
Maybe I go sand
But then fast psyspam is a problem
dapper crag
Was thinking blunder policy gliscor with farigiraf
Blunder? 
short quiver
chat discord should lowkey add hollowknight stuff to the nitro shop
dapper crag
Who USES that shop
real prairie
But then I need something for rain and something for tr and something for fast p...
Can I recommend specs Politoed, works well in TR
cyan smelt
i'm just worried about fast psyspam completely obliterating everything before i have a chance to set up tr
real prairie
Run slow rilla
cyan smelt
i think i want tailroom, because i'm running blunder policy
real prairie
Yeah, then defo Politoed
90 speed with no investment is a good place for tailroom
You can invest marginally to get it up to 107 and outspeed Dragapult with TW
cyan smelt
so politoed, gliscor, farig
real prairie
Sounds like a good excuse for bullet seed rilla and stamina Arch 🤣
real prairie
Sounds like amoonguss
cyan smelt
rilla and amoonguss?
real prairie
Yeah why not
cyan smelt
because then there's no room for tailwind
real prairie
because then there's no room for tailwind
Gliscor learns TW no?
cyan smelt
ig i could do swords dance, tailwind, high horsepower, dual wingbeat with blunder policy
farig stops fake out so i can always switch it in if i predict a fake out
short quiver
Who USES that shop <:grizzcodisturbed:784332417610940427>
i think the fox hat on my pfp should answer that\
real prairie
farig stops fake out so i can always switch it in if i predict a fake out
Lead both, they have no idea if you are going TW or TR
dapper crag
i think the fox hat on my pfp should answer that\
You must be cleansed
short quiver
You must be cleansed
cyan smelt
mausape is still a problem though
real prairie
then i have the option to set up a swords dance if i want
Rilla also gives you a fake out to set up too
Or amoonguss redirection
cyan smelt
i still don't like having both amoonguss and rilla
short quiver
chat do i play valorant or go to sleep
real prairie
mausape is still a problem though
Specs Politoed hits 60%+ into Ape
real prairie
chat do i play valorant or go to sleep
Sleep
cyan smelt
yeah but i'm worried about bulky stuff like ttar
real prairie
Specs Politoed hits 60%+ into Ape
With muddy water that is
real prairie
yeah but i'm worried about bulky stuff like ttar
Rilla one shots ttar with wood hammer no?
cyan smelt
they're always tera flying
real prairie
they're always tera flying
Politoed gets ice beam but it's not gonna help much if they still have AV on
Maybe you drop amoongus idea for Incin?
real prairie
Well Politoed does get access to haze but it's damage output is less than helpful without specs
cyan smelt
what if i go greninja instead of rillaboom
can proc stamina that way and it gets haze
real prairie
what if i go greninja instead of rillaboom
It's an option
Lose fake out and the terrain control though
cyan smelt
or i could add greninja and add rilla
real prairie
Yeah could do
cyan smelt
politoed, farig, gliscor, arch, greninja, rilla
real prairie
Greninja really doesn't want to be caught in TR though
cyan smelt
tr is just an option if they have tailwind up
real prairie
Valid
cyan smelt
i'm mainly thinking of imprisoning opposing tr
idk there's probably a reason farigiraf isn't being used
real prairie
idk there's probably a reason farigiraf isn't being used
Yeah mostly damage output I think.
cyan smelt
Think I might still try tailroom gliscor
i realised i've been thinking of teams from more of a singles perspective i think, good mons that cover each others weaknesses rather than what modes i have and how well it answers opposing modes
thorn mortar
Oh hey I can post videos now:
this moment made me nearly explode with joy and righteousness
@flint hearth @near heath
real prairie
i realised i've been thinking of teams from more of a singles perspective i thin...
sounds like you are leaning towards balance then
real prairie
Oh hey I can post videos now:
this moment made me nearly explode with joy and r...
Clever stuff
near heath
thorn mortar
Clever stuff
I hate that horse so much this made up for like….well a lot
real prairie
I hate that horse so much this made up for like….well a lot
Feel the stupid Dog is a bigger issue but i respect the hussle
sharp pebble
what would be a good ground type to slap in a team?
thorn mortar
Feel the stupid Dog is a bigger issue but i respect the hussle
I read the protect and just crushed the dog a few turns later
real prairie
H or J?
real prairie
I read the protect and just crushed the dog a few turns later
fair enough
jade dust
What are good evs for palafin?
thorn mortar
what would be a good ground type to slap in a team?
jade dust
Do you wanna go fast or bulky?
thorn mortar
Do you wanna go fast or bulky?
Speed doesn’t really matter if you are relying on jet punch
thorn mortar
Depends on how you want to make it
Off cuff I’d you are choice banding it just go 252 hp and attack
real prairie
this is a bulk set i know of:
Palafin @ Mystic Water
Ability: Zero to Hero
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 188 HP / 236 Atk / 4 Def / 12 SpD / 68 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Protect
- Jet Punch
- Wave Crash
thorn mortar
this is a bulk set i know of:
Palafin @ Mystic Water
Ability: Zero to Hero
Lev...
This also works
jade dust
Close combat over drain punch?
real prairie
Close combat over drain punch?
better to clear the field than chip at it
flint hearth
<@1326523313077616702> <@277996300845318146>
Someone summoned me
jade dust
This doesn’t seem to be bulky with close combat and wave crash
You’re lowering your defenses and taking recoil
thorn mortar
Someone summoned me
Scroll up to the video
cyan smelt
palafin is meant to be a nuke
real prairie
You’re lowering your defenses and taking recoil
after being hit
flint hearth
Scroll up to the video
Saw it
real prairie
max speed max attack eject pack is my favourite set though
flint hearth
That was awesome
cyan smelt
tailroom gliscor sounds good, farig, gliscor, kilowattrel
real prairie
max speed max attack eject pack is my favourite set though
Palafin @ Eject Pack
Ability: Zero to Hero
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Protect
- Jet Punch
- Wave Crash
real prairie
tailroom gliscor sounds good, farig, gliscor, kilowattrel
Kilo pairs really well with Mamoswine
cyan smelt
too many niche mons if i go kilowattrel gliscor and mamoswine
real prairie
haha no comment (he says running Ludicolo, Politoed and Weavile)
cyan smelt
at least focus sash weavile is one way to deal with indeedee sneasler
real prairie
at least focus sash weavile is one way to deal with indeedee sneasler
ice spinner too
so saves a partner
pickpocket is suprisingly helpful too lol
cyan smelt
if i'm going tailroom i wonder if i go primarina
stone trellis
It could work.
cyan smelt
idk if i like having two mons weak to sneasler then two mons weak to ice
i know for sure ursaluna goes great in both
but that's two ground types
stone trellis
stone trellis
idk if i like having two mons weak to sneasler then two mons weak to ice
That's why you have Tera.
cyan smelt
almost feels like you have to run weather to be successful in this format
cyan smelt
I definitely think gliscor is better on balance
stone trellis
I really hope they use the Gen 6 world champion theme for all Worlds finals that will be taking place in Champions.
That stuff is straight flames, they had no reason not to keep it.
bold geode
Palafin @ Eject Pack
Ability: Zero to Hero
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 4 HP ...
Tera Stellar is nice imo
One shot Kingambit with Tera Stellar CC in baby form
real prairie
One shot Kingambit with Tera Stellar CC in baby form
Does a tera dark sucker punch OHKO the opposite way?
stone trellis
Black Glasses or not?
bold geode
Does a tera dark sucker punch OHKO the opposite way?
Are they ever gonna Sucker into that slot
real prairie
Are they ever gonna Sucker into that slot
If they see close combat they may well do
stone trellis
252+ Atk Tera Dark Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Palafin: 118-140 (67 - 79.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
real prairie
But most are greedy and want a swords dance lol
real prairie
252+ Atk Tera Dark Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Palafin: 118-140 (67 ...
Well I'll be damned
stone trellis
252+ Atk Tera Dark Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Palafin: 118-140 (67 ...
252+ Atk Tera Dark Kingambit Sucker Punch vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Palafin-Hero: 92-110 (52.2 - 62.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
That base 100 HP and 97 Defense are doing a lot of work.
real prairie
That base 100 HP and 97 Defense are doing a lot of work.
Doing all the work lol
real prairie
That base 100 HP and 97 Defense are doing a lot of work.
That's pre transformation yeah?
bold geode
Are you using the Palafin in OTS?
real prairie
Are you using the Palafin in OTS?
I'm not at all, but I might use it in GC as I need a 6th anyway
@jade dust was going to
bold geode
I'm not at all, but I might use it in GC as I need a 6th anyway
Well then the Sucker never comes up
real prairie
I might just throw my Tsareena in as my 6th, old reliable
polar canyon
I just think it's funny
polar canyon
How perceptive
stone trellis
Iron Valiant has tanked so many moves it has no right to tank.
You have 74 HP and 60 Special Defense with a Focus Sash build, how do you live so much?
lethal gazelle
Hello, Are there any Friendly Competitions reg H at the moment?
waxen dock
why isnt the gc showing up?
it instead show this annoting tour
i dont fucking care about this tour i care about the gc
real prairie
i dont fucking care about this tour i care about the gc
?
real prairie
Show up where lol
fringe dagger
im so confused on the terestal crescendo
is it a team of 6 or only 2 mons with one of the raidons
waxen dock
im so confused on the terestal crescendo
is it a team of 6 or only 2 mons with ...
just reg g but only restricteds are miraidon and koraidon
solid frigate
Hello, Are there any Friendly Competitions reg H at the moment?
You try look at limitless tournaments if you wanna compete in some kind of tournament that isn’t in person
fringe dagger
just reg g but only restricteds are miraidon and koraidon
oh
so its just regulation S
solid frigate
just reg g but only restricteds are miraidon and koraidon
Not even close
You can only use two Pokémon instead of 6 mons bring 4
solid frigate
Which basically you give Koraidon+Flutter Mane a free to win card
fringe dagger
miraidon bundle:
lethal gazelle
You try look at limitless tournaments if you wanna compete in some kind of tourn...
Hi, thanks! Yeah I know limitless, but I was wondering if there are bo1 friendly tournaments like we can’t do ladder now in reg H unfortunately
gentle cragBOT
Hi, thanks! Yeah I know limitless, but I was wondering if there are bo1 friendly...
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waxen dock
Hi, thanks! Yeah I know limitless, but I was wondering if there are bo1 friendly...
maybe gc
fringe dagger
miraidon bundle:
bundle is ridiculously fast and outspeeds 99% of mons
miraidon then picks up a KO on the more annoying mf
this falls apart to tailwind or a bulky mon
real prairie
like you click online competitions
I see what you mean