#competitive_discussion

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stone trellis
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At least it's bulkier than Whimsicott.

polar canyon
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That too

stone trellis
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Yeah, half of the Prankster users would be shit without it.

polar canyon
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Prankster t waves

feral fractal
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would a shaymin and shadow rider team work out, or not really?

stone trellis
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Two special attackers isn't 100% ideal.

polar canyon
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You're free to try, but when you say it it sounds like shaymin is there for fun and csr is there as the backup for when the fun one doesn't cut it

feral fractal
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i really wanna use shaymin but i can’t find any teams i like ngl

polar canyon
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I think having one restricted you like for fun and one op one that's there more as a backup is perfectly valid

stone trellis
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People run that?

polar canyon
stone trellis
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"Dance if your a Groudon with redirection victim" ahh team 🥀

polar canyon
stone trellis
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My go-to way is to use Tera Stellar Helping Hand CC from Urshifu.

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They never run Tera Fairy anyway.

polar canyon
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Until it gets faked out by smeargle

stone trellis
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Farigiraf solves all my problems.

polar canyon
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If they see farigiraf they won't default to fake out and will redirect instead

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Classic redirection tr and smeargle also gives magearna a boost

stone trellis
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People in the 1400s have actually tried to Fake Out on turn 2 or while Farigiraf was on the field.

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I would know, I've won games off of that.

polar canyon
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Why can't I get those opponents when I'm in the 1400s

stone trellis
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Why can't I stop facing those CSR teams that somehow know the exact EV spreads and items on my team and manage to make Snarl miss on the one turn where it would KO?

waxen dock
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so they do the opposite of what pauls opponents do

boreal creek
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I just had a thought. Is ditto legal? If so, how does ditto work EVs and IVs wise

waxen dock
polar canyon
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I think the least satisfying thing about reg j is assuming wrong if a miraidon is scarf or not

polar canyon
waxen dock
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hp is dittos hp

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so you need to always have max hp

boreal creek
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That’s not too bad

polar canyon
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Training anything besides hp on ditto is irrelevant outside the specific scenario of facing a weezing that neutralizes imposter

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Tera types are also not copied btw

waxen dock
boreal creek
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Weezing counters among us? Damn

waxen dock
polar canyon
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Utility wise tera ghost is probably the best tera but if you're ballsy you could try stellar

waxen dock
polar canyon
boreal creek
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Also if ditto is shiny will it transform into shiny

waxen dock
polar canyon
waxen dock
boreal creek
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Sad

polar canyon
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If the opponent is shiny ditto will transform into a shiny

boreal creek
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I think I might run ditto it sounds funny

waxen dock
polar canyon
waxen dock
polar canyon
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Ditto also has a funny interaction with zacian and zamazenta

waxen dock
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reg h is mainly balance and ditto have a very bad mu against balance

polar canyon
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It copies them alongside with the boost they got from their abilities but then it also activates the ability and gets another boost

waxen dock
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i used to run a zacian team with ditto back in reg g

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in 2nd reg g so i used these team in gcs

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and did 12-1 with it in one gc

polar canyon
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I think ditto gets more value in a single restricted format than 2 restricteds since having 2 restricteds against 1 is a bigger difference than 3 against 2

waxen dock
polar canyon
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I was using ditto as a zama counter back then in ranked

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It's such a funny zama counter

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Especially if you're tera ghost and they're not

waxen dock
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cuz in reg g its more like 1.75 restricteds rhater than 2

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cuz there is main restricted and secendary restricted

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secendary is ussualy lunala or zama

polar canyon
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And because you don't always bring both in battle

polar canyon
waxen dock
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maybe on swordfish there isnt

polar canyon
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Csr korai is pretty focused on both depending on the composition

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You can lean more on sun abusing or lean more on supporting csr, or you can do both and balance that out

waxen dock
polar canyon
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I am guilty of just having a sun team with csr slapped on top tho

polar canyon
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But I get what you mean

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You're right I just like making points and pointing things out

waxen dock
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Just like only kian campbell really use swordfish

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Only they use these archetypes and get good consistent results

rustic mountain
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well there was another day 2 csr/korai player at worlds that went 7-3 so its not like actually nobody else is running it, but yea it definitely isnt as common of a duo ppl opted into

dense latch
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mao harada and james baek made top 8 and top 16 respectively with csr korai

rustic mountain
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lmao thats crazy i completely glossed over those

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korai + ghost type was pretty dominant at worlds

polar canyon
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I'm gonna try to not compare myself to top level players considering I've never been to an in person event

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And wouldn't consider myself on the same level as even some people here

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To my own standards I've been getting consistent results with korai csr but that makes it very subjective and probably bad if it was through a different pov

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I like to think I'm improving and korai csr is what clicked with me and felt nice recently

rustic mountain
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i think even if ur not a top player u can still express and formulate your own thoughts based on experience, u just cant only go off that (even wen ur constructing ur own team and what not ur accumulating data and looking at things in an objective lens if ur doing it optimally) id say in this case korai/csr has already proven outside ur own experiences to justify its use case

polar canyon
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That makes sense

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I think I didn't sleep enough to understand too many words at once

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I do wanna try a different duo soon enough

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I know zacian is the intrepid fraud rn but it's one that also clicks with how I like to play pretty well

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I think I remember hearing that zacian csr is a thing?

stone trellis
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It did win Worlds in 2022, I guess it could work in 2025 as well.

polar canyon
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That's a bit of a different context

stone trellis
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That's why I said "I guess it could work".

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I can't decide how fast Kyogre should be, if I should have a Tailwind mode or a Trick Room mode or both or who the hell the last three members of my team should be.

rustic mountain
# polar canyon That makes sense

yea like if everyone just went off outside validation of the meta there wouldnt be much innovation or if there was itd be a lot more rigid. its good to be able to think outside just that but u also cant let ur own bias and feelings effect ur decisions either wen ur looking at it just by ur own pov

stone trellis
stone trellis
rustic mountain
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if u have a tw mode give it enough speed to outspeed common threats while its up otherwise im sure itd underspeed a lot in tr thats more like ur ability to discern speed tiers

stone trellis
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I don't have one yet, that's the problem.

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How common is Scarf Miraidon in Reg J?

rustic mountain
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ur enabler is smeargle for tr and u have a setter with cir, its really just getting a tw setter and then 2 other mons to either strengthen ur tw mode or tr mode, id say going off wats there atm ur prolly better off just committing to one

stone trellis
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CIR HAS AV DUDE

rustic mountain
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oh god

stone trellis
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THAT'S THE FUCKING PROBLEM

rustic mountain
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seems self inflicted

stone trellis
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I've wanted to make a team using AV Ice Rider since Reg I started.

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I've never made a complete one that actually got made in game.

rustic mountain
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yea sorry man im not gna theorize how to make av ice rider work

stone trellis
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Or got past the 1300s on Showdown, for that matter.

stone trellis
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So I chose something which combines the bulk of Leftovers and the ability to actually pick up KOs of Clear Amulet stuff.

rustic mountain
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leftovers is more for sustain and dot then outright bulk

stone trellis
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Leftovers sets tend to run more bulk anyway, that's what I meant.

rustic mountain
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and if ur getting intimidated down av is not helping u pick up any added kos its actually taking them away

stone trellis
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That's why Decorate is there.

rustic mountain
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ok but u cant even set up tr effectively w/ those 2 guys on the board which is putting more of a strain on ur teambuilding

stone trellis
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I know...

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It's just something I want to see work for once.

foggy lodge
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The japanese people have used AV CIR and it had decent success

stone trellis
foggy lodge
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Tho I think its purely a bo1 thing cuz av cir has 0 success on bo3 tournaments

stone trellis
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I don't play Bo3 anyway.

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Give me the sauce.

foggy lodge
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Tf is bite

tiny karmaBOT
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Move: Bite

Has a 30% chance to make the target flinch.

Type

Dark

Category

Physical

Power

60

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

25 (40)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Bite

Boosted by Strong Jaw.

Contact

Makes contact.

Sableye version 4.28.4
foggy lodge
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Oh so its only to hax tf out of people

stone trellis
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I was right on the money.

dense latch
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prob does decent enough damage with technician

stone trellis
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And it hits Ghost types.

foggy lodge
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Ohhh true technician

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cuz it hits harder than crunch

stone trellis
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Oh my God, Volc learns TW.

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Thank you, Sato Baruki.

rustic mountain
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🤨

stone trellis
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That's the name of the guy who made the team.

boreal creek
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I love how I put protect on my team and magically nobody uses incin anymore

short quiver
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lmao

stone trellis
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I could honestly see myself running Friend Guard Maushold over Technician, but I don't know if I want to.

short quiver
rustic mountain
short quiver
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wide lens technician pop. bomb and technician bite

stone trellis
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252 Atk Technician Maushold Population Bomb (10 hits) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Miraidon: 180-220 (102.2 - 125%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Technician Maushold Population Bomb (10 hits) vs. 28 HP / 4 Def Koraidon: 160-210 (89.3 - 117.3%) -- approx. 97.7% chance to OHKO
252 Atk Technician Maushold Population Bomb (10 hits) vs. 140 HP / 44 Def Ursaluna: 160-210 (71.7 - 94.1%) -- approx. 0.4% chance to OHKO after burn damage
DAMN

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252 Atk Technician Maushold Bite vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Shadow: 176-208 (100 - 118.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

DAMN

rustic mountain
short quiver
boreal creek
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What’s a good item for koraidon

dense latch
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life orb with close combat or clear amulet

boreal creek
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I like the clear amulet shout

stone trellis
short quiver
stone trellis
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I might make a few changes later on, but it looks quite good.

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I guess Maushold isn't 100% required.

dense latch
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i don't think min speed cir makes much sense here

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my guess is the original team ran it faster so it could take advantage of tailwind, given the extra bulk it gets from av

stone trellis
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It's just a natural instinct.

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But what can bro even outspeed after Tailwind without wasting too many points on Speed?

foggy lodge
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why would you even run that much bulk with av

bold geode
foggy lodge
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Like I thought the point of av was just not having to waste points on special defense

stone trellis
foggy lodge
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Yeah and that's why you play kyogre lol

stone trellis
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I didn't originally plan for the team to have Kyogre, so I forgot to change the spread.

short quiver
bold geode
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Ngl the team looks like hot ass

short quiver
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idk about maus +volc

bold geode
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Wait
Is this a Japan Nats team or am I trippin

stone trellis
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It is.

stone trellis
dense latch
bold geode
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I wouldn't recommend running half of those top 8 teams ngl

foggy lodge
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Why is Volc not rage powder anymore

dense latch
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wait yea that volc set is so weird

stone trellis
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I don't know, man.

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I genuinely have no idea what I'm doing anymore.

bold geode
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I feel like we're just slapping new parts on a team now just to do it

dense latch
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oh it was originally rage powder

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no reason why it shouldn't be

stone trellis
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Since Maushold's gone, I have room for another Pokemon now.

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And I guess I could lose Volc too.

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Do I keep it?

dense latch
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volc is probably your only way to get through zama

stone trellis
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I could probably force them into Tera Water and Giga Drain the shit out of it.

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+1 76+ Atk Hearthflame Mask Tera Fire Ogerpon-Hearthflame-Tera Ivy Cudgel vs. 100 HP / 236+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned in Rain on a critical hit: 160-192 (88.8 - 106.6%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO
Dear God.

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+1 252+ Atk Hearthflame Mask Tera Fire Ogerpon-Hearthflame-Tera Ivy Cudgel vs. 100 HP / 236+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned in Rain on a critical hit: 180-216 (100 - 120%) -- guaranteed OHKO
THAT'S WHY SHE'S THE GOAT

short quiver
foggy lodge
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Giga drain is terrible on non set up sets

stone trellis
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Fair.

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I don't really want the second redirection on it, to be honest.

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I really want to use QD.

foggy lodge
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QD is terrible with Kyogre

stone trellis
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Is there anything it's not terrible with?

foggy lodge
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Rage powder

timber falcon
stone trellis
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I know, that set is old.

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I reworked it and made it fast enough to outspeed the max Speed Modest/Adamant bikes after Tailwind.

timber falcon
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Apart from the the team looks decent on paper, have you test ran it?

stone trellis
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No, it's not even finished yet.

timber falcon
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What else is there to add

stone trellis
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I removed Maushold and made Volcarona's moves a little less shit.

timber falcon
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Alright, and I’m assuming in replace of maushold you’ll go for another redirection mon?

stone trellis
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Doubt it.

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The voices are telling me to use Landorus, but I'm not sure about it.

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Like, it significantly improves my MU into Zamazenta.

timber falcon
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True

stone trellis
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I'll probably run Timid so I can outspeed Scarf Mirai after Tailwind.

timber falcon
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People run scarf mirai nowadays?

stone trellis
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Yeah.

timber falcon
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I still play assuming specs

stone trellis
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I do too.

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Mostly because Scarf does the same damage to Ice Rider as a wet noodle.

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So it outspeeding isn't really a problem.

feral fractal
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man idk what team to use

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darkrai and shaymin wouldn’t go well together right?

stone trellis
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Why would they?

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Shaymin is weak to Ice, Poison, Rock, Fire and Flying, correct?

feral fractal
stone trellis
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And it struggles with hitting Steel types, as far as I'm aware.

feral fractal
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i thing is I have both a shiny darkrai and shaymin, and i wanna use either one

stone trellis
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You could use Shaymin.

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(The form with Serene Grace)

feral fractal
stone trellis
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Which one?

feral fractal
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for darkrai there’s a couple of options aswell

stone trellis
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Two special attackers is already not off to a good start.

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What about Koraidon or something like that?

feral fractal
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well i’m not the best team builder, i usually just find teams of youtube or other websites then hunt down each pokemon since i don’t like renting

stone trellis
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You can compliment this Shaymin's inability to hit Steel types with the one guy who's great at shredding through them.

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I get that.

feral fractal
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i was also considering this one since it’s the most popular darkrai team rn

IMG_1029.png
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but i’m not sure why it’s so popular

stone trellis
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All around me are Ice Rider victims, Ice Rider victims...

feral fractal
dense latch
feral fractal
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u seem like the expert here, u gotta build me a team or smth 🙏

stone trellis
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I...

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Am nowhere near an expert.

feral fractal
stone trellis
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But I can help.

feral fractal
stone trellis
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You could use either AV or Life Orb Raging Bolt.

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Depending on your Koraidon's set.

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Or keep Safety Goggles, honestly.

feral fractal
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I see.. I see.. joobisaythatagain

stone trellis
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Chi-Yu is also great at enabling and complimenting Shaymin.

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Since Beads of Ruin makes Seed Flare and Air Slash hit way harder.

foggy lodge
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Turn 1

Indeedee used Helping Hand!
Indeedee is ready to help Espathra!

Espathra used Expanding Force!
(The opposing Ursaluna lost 100% of its health!)
(The opposing Salamence lost 100% of its health!)

The opposing Ursaluna fainted!
The opposing Salamence fainted!
Espathra lost some of its HP!

stone trellis
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I'm trying to think of a good physical attacker who doesn't overlap weaknesses with the other guys...

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The voices are telling me to suggest Brute Bonnet.

feral fractal
stone trellis
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Theoretically, it makes sense.

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Bulky redirector, can use Spore to put big threats to sleep and can Tera out of its weaknesses.

feral fractal
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uh huh..

real prairie
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Only Pelliper with protect

feral fractal
real prairie
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its crazy

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and it went 11-2

stone trellis
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This is what the average Reg H team will look like 2050 and it's... beautiful, or however the Rage Fist hits 350 BP.

stoic ridge
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How does the turn order work when there is a Prankster Pokemon using Tailwind and a Dark type Pokemon attempting to Taunt it? Does the Dark type Pokemon go first or is it based on who's faster? Or does Dark type not matter since Tailwind doesn't target a Pokemon

foggy lodge
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Being a dark type has nothing to do there

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Assuming for example its a taunt incin in front of whimsicott setting tailwind whimsicott will always go first

stoic ridge
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ok thanks

real prairie
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Prankster interactions with dark types just means that you can't target dark types with prankster moves. for example scary face or thunder wave

proud gulch
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this MIGHT work

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boreal creek
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So rillaboom with hp/atk evs + assault vest is the move

proud gulch
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💔

boreal creek
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Mods might get ya for advertising

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I meant just the name 😭

proud gulch
proud gulch
boreal creek
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Rip

foggy lodge
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But if its a reg J team don't pay for that its a scam lmao

boreal creek
dense latch
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locking a team behind patreon makes sense for a tournament legal team but reg j is just battle stadium it is not that serious lmaoo

proud gulch
foggy lodge
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Its pretty common for competitors tho more when they are teams made by them

proud gulch
boreal creek
dense latch
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don't just max those two

boreal creek
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o

dense latch
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mix it between everything but spatk

boreal creek
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I’m running assault vest does that change anything

dense latch
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max hp out but then spread amongst the other stats

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Rillaboom @ Assault Vest
Ability: Grassy Surge
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 36 Atk / 76 Def / 124 SpD / 20 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Fake Out
  • Grassy Glide
  • U-turn
  • Wood Hammer

Rillaboom @ Assault Vest
Ability: Grassy Surge
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 116 Atk / 4 Def / 124 SpD / 12 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Fake Out
  • Grassy Glide
  • U-turn
  • Wood Hammer

you can do spreads like these

rustic mountain
tiny karmaBOT
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Move: Floral Healing

The target restores 1/2 of its maximum HP, rounded half up. If the terrain is Grassy Terrain, the target instead restores 2/3 of its maximum HP, rounded half down.

Type

Fairy

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Contact

Does not make contact.

Heal

Cannot be selected under Heal Block.

Reflectable

Affected by Magic Coat and Magic Bounce.

Sableye version 4.28.4
dense latch
real prairie
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2/3 healing in grassy terrain is a bit mad

boreal creek
dense latch
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you mean non tera rillaboom against a tera fire koraidon flare blitz?

boreal creek
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Yes

dense latch
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that's not happening sorry

boreal creek
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I see 😭

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I assume chi yu is the same situation 😭

dense latch
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you can tank a heat wave pretty comfortably without sun

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in sun it's basically impossible to always survive

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252 HP and 124 SpDef lives three astral barrages with grassy terrain recovery

boreal creek
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Sold

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All I needed to hear

boreal creek
dense latch
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it's up to what you want

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you can do the 116 spread too

boreal creek
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Well really how many physical fire threats really exist besides koraidon and incineroar which both one shot me anyway

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Hmm… anything I don’t one shot I can finish off with priority grassy glide anyway so I guess I’ll go for the def

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Or should I be spamming grassy glide and not using wood hammer

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Cause that’s what I see people do

dense latch
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wood hammer is great

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for kyogre, can get the one shot on csr after life orb

boreal creek
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I am a d1 kyogre hater

boreal creek
dense latch
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116

boreal creek
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116 it is

rustic mountain
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-8ball can champions just be released already?

gentle cragBOT
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can champions just be released already?
:8ball: Better not tell you now

rustic mountain
dense latch
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i'm so bored of reg h rn i'm trying to win with a metronome only team

boreal creek
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I love countering tailwind with trick room I’ve gotten some ragequits with it

bold geode
next stump
boreal creek
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This guy just hit me with moonblast from a zamazenta
What is the game plan?

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I think even flutter mane lives that

next stump
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moonblast from zamazenta???

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the gameplan is get a free win

solid frigate
torn parrot
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a fantabulous day in reg H

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boreal creek
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I didn’t even know dude could learn moonblast 😭

solid frigate
rustic mountain
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thats u ^

rustic mountain
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reg h is honestly cool, i just hate how its only sd for the ppl who arent attending irls

grand bane
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Can somone do a bbq with me

bold geode
bold geode
dense latch
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getting a single ko was an accomplishment

dense latch
rustic mountain
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yea metronome only vs anything that isnt metronome only itself is really tough

dense latch
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going back to mausape after this made me feel like i was cheating

proud gulch
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good or trash?

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solid frigate
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Why use Keldeo when this guy exist

rigid crane
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True

shadow wind
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Because sometimes we just wanna waste our restricted slot for fun !!

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Lowkey me too

rustic mountain
dense latch
shadow wind
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That's my problem with Reg H

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I don't have a guy like that

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Like Ttar is good

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Lowkey about to bust out the Cetitan

dense latch
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no need for an attacking move groudon misses all the time anyways :)

shadow wind
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Where's my pblade equivalent 😔

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Ain't that the truth

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Most Dnites run max speed max attack now right?

dense latch
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all of them do basically

forest arrow
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Yeah most are adamant

dense latch
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you're kinda forced to if you want to get the edge on other dnites

shadow wind
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252+ Atk Cetitan Icicle Crash vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 152-180 (91.5 - 108.4%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

I hate this game bruh

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A stab super effective move doesn't even OHKO

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This guy feels like Lunala all over again

forest arrow
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I mean it is multiscale

shadow wind
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+6 252+ Atk Cetitan Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 282-332 (169.8 - 200%) -- guaranteed OHKO

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Ah there we go

dense latch
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i was running jolly all this time without realizing adamant was by far more common 😭 stole one team then assumed it was the norm

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i've been missing out on some damage

forest arrow
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Felt that, jolly does miss out on the damage but you do get the edge on opposing

shadow wind
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Can't wait for them to tera and I do 50% !!

dense latch
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wait never mind i did use adamant ‼️

shadow wind
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Ok I do like Cetitanmaxxing though

dense latch
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idk why i thought i was on jolly

shadow wind
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Cetitan might be my guy

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Bro is just a big ball of stats

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 975: Cetitan
Type

Ice

Abilities

Thick Fat, Slush Rush, Sheer Force (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

170/113/65/45/55/73

Total

521

Sableye version 4.28.4
shadow wind
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Like lowkey kind of a nasty mon

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Gets good coverage too

rustic mountain
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its ok

forest arrow
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Tree

shadow wind
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Nasty in a swagmoney kinda way

rustic mountain
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it was solid in series 1

shadow wind
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Not in a meta defining way

forest arrow
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We know you love your swag money lol

rustic mountain
forest arrow
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How are you man

rustic mountain
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im ight hbu

forest arrow
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Same, working on some sauce

dense latch
# tiny karma

went all in on the first two stats then forgot about the rest

shadow wind
#

Why couldn't they have just given Cetitan glacial lance 😔

forest arrow
#

lol

shadow wind
#

Like come on GameFreak

#

Get your balancing together

forest arrow
dense latch
#

is cetitan all that bulky even with that hp

forest arrow
#

I wouldn’t think so

dense latch
#

idk how you'd ev the guy

rustic mountain
forest arrow
#

Especially with belly drum taking half of your HP from you

rustic mountain
#

reg h isnt a true low power format, too many good mons even w.o legends

shadow wind
rustic mountain
#

true low power is like series 1

forest arrow
#

Yeah would’ve been fun to revisit

shadow wind
#

I'm gonna try to cook

forest arrow
#

But I can definitely say I’m having a better time this time around for Reg H

dense latch
#

252 Atk Sneasler Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Cetitan: 288-338 (103.9 - 122%) -- guaranteed OHKO not even with max HP 😭

shadow wind
#

Nah you gotta ev the defenses

rustic mountain
shadow wind
#

High HP mons appreciate non hp evs

forest arrow
#

I’m trying it out and it feels solid

rustic mountain
#

those 6?

forest arrow
#

no I made my own 6

rustic mountain
#

ahh got it

dense latch
#

252 Atk Sneasler Close Combat vs. 4 HP / 252 Def Cetitan: 212-252 (86.1 - 102.4%) -- 18.75% chance to OHKO
252 Atk Sneasler Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Cetitan: 288-338 (103.9 - 122%) -- guaranteed OHKO

diminishing returns go crazy

shadow wind
#

Yeah

dense latch
#

obv you're not doing 252 def but it's a good way to show it

shadow wind
#

Also put that boy in snow

forest arrow
shadow wind
#

Give my goat a little extra help 🙏

forest arrow
#

First time ever nicknaming my squad and I’m proud of myself lol

dense latch
#

o you're doing slush rush stuff

shadow wind
#

Definitely have to

rustic mountain
forest arrow
#

It’s felt pretty good so far, I’m 1550 atm

shadow wind
#

Why does that stupid rat have to be 2 points faster than Ninetales

forest arrow
dense latch
shadow wind
#

+6 252+ Atk Cetitan Icicle Crash vs. +1 240 HP / 0 Def Annihilape with an ally's Friend Guard: 173-205 (80.4 - 95.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

Honestly more than I thought it would do

dense latch
#

1600 avoids me like im the plague this reg

forest arrow
#

Felt

shadow wind
forest arrow
#

I can’t hit it either lol

shadow wind
#

I was at 1595 and then tilted back down to 1300

forest arrow
#

Always one game away too

dense latch
rustic mountain
#

was hoping victor was gna win frankfurt since hes using the same 6 as me (bit of different sets and tera types)

forest arrow
rustic mountain
#

yea hell get there

dense latch
#

shohei was so close to the finals im using his team rn

#

that g3 turn 1 was tragic

forest arrow
#

I didn’t realize I was using shoheis 6 for awhile lol it’s what I ran for GC

rustic mountain
#

whats his 6?

forest arrow
#

Dug Mausape

rustic mountain
#

ew

dense latch
#

these are the evs he shared

#

if you can't beat them join them

rustic mountain
#

strong team for sure i just hate mausape

forest arrow
#

I was only close on the ape spread lol

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I ran modest Dengo but it worked out great for me

shadow wind
#

Follow me users when trying to have a defense stat of over 75 (It's impossible)

rustic mountain
#

beating mausape is only surpassed by beating dozo in terms of ecstasy

forest arrow
#

Acro Sneasler has made those 2 a cake walk

shadow wind
#

Nah cause Dozo goes down to a move

rustic mountain
#

huh

shadow wind
#

MausApe feels like WW3

dense latch
#

mausape + sitrus + grassy terrain should be illegal

shadow wind
#

Dog that's what I'm saying

shadow wind
rustic mountain
#

haze is like the baby approach to dozo

shadow wind
#

It's still a good one

rustic mountain
#

it can be, sure

shadow wind
#

There's no haze button for MausApe

forest arrow
#

I didn’t think about my dozo mu but I’m probably fine, just fo cycle the thing

shadow wind
#

I don't think rage fist should stay if they switch out

zealous sigil
#

hiiiii

dense latch
shadow wind
#

Like would it solve the mon to it being balanced? God no

#

But it would make it more fair

#

Might also allow it to be allowed back in singles

dense latch
#

would making rage fist proc only when hit by opponents be too harsh

shadow wind
#

Yeah

#

Cause then things like Arch are getting princess treatment

rustic mountain
#

i wouldnt mind rage fist being reset on switch out

shadow wind
#

I always thought it was dumb how it didn't get reset when it died but that's just an extension of it not being reset on switch out

dense latch
split sparrow
#

What's an ideal IV setup for trickroom Incineroar?

dense latch
split sparrow
dense latch
#

depends on the format

split sparrow
#

I breed for all formats, should I jus go 1 line all max, 1 ng speed?

dense latch
#

it's prob good to have a min speed amoong

shadow wind
split sparrow
#

I'mma start bundling these mfs in my trades-

shadow wind
#

Something feels off

#

Oh Cetitan is meant to be slush

dense latch
#

why is pult hasty?

shadow wind
#

Just got exposed for using the ev maker button 😔

forest arrow
#

Lmao

dense latch
#

i feel like there's too much going on if that makes sense

shadow wind
#

Yeah

#

Oh man the Palafin isn't supposed to be tera water either

#

This first set is gonna be rough

dense latch
#

cetitan palafin and volc all take turns to set up

#

pult is your only form of immediate damage

shadow wind
#

Yeah

#

Maybe I rethink some pieces

#

I actually am digging the idea of tera fairy Sinistcha though

#

Helps against Dnite

solid frigate
#

@rustic mountain yeah Mythicals are so bad that my Reg H Team beats it-

rustic mountain
#

they arent that bad haha

solid frigate
#

i mean i was fighting a reg J team

#

and doesn't when that person is using Ho-Oh+Keldeo

real prairie
#

Morning

#

The shiny rainbow names have gone 😭

ember jungle
short quiver
#

hollow knight is actually rage baiting me i swear

#

im playing HK, not silksong, just HK

#

and im like actually lost

#

i have no idea what im supposed to be doing or WHERE im supposed to be

#

i’ve been going in endless circles

#

for HOURS

stone trellis
#

Mudkip should get access to Follow Me.

#

I will not debate this any further.

real prairie
#

no debate required

stone trellis
#

Smeargle has no right to being the only Follow Me + Wide Guard user.

real prairie
#

does Mew count? are there follow me and wide guard TMs?

stone trellis
#

There aren't.

real prairie
#

well

stone trellis
#

Follow Me and Wide Guard are always learned either through leveling up or breeding.

real prairie
#

side note, is there a chrome extension or plugin to auto copy SD replays to PASRS

stone trellis
#

Smeargle's good, but imagine something with actual bulk being able to use Decorate.

tiny karmaBOT
#
Pokémon No. 869: Alcremie
Type

Fairy

Abilities

Sweet Veil, Aroma Veil (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

65/60/75/110/121/64

Total

495

Sableye version 4.28.4
real prairie
#

tbh, not awful bulk for reg H

stone trellis
#

I'm talking about Reg I/J.

#

Decorate's the one thing standing between my Ice Rider and Intimidate cycling.

real prairie
#

not just running CLAM?

stone trellis
#

I've wanted to run AV since Reg I began.

#

I've been running Clam since I started playing VGC.

#

I don't want to use an exact copy of that one Japan Nationals team either.

#

I've done so many different serious teams, I think it'd be good if I made one for fun.

real prairie
#

put it in Nutralising Gas?

#

or dragon cheer team, attack drops dont matter with crits

stone trellis
#

Fair, but Tera Dragon Icy is borderline buns.

#

Neutralising Gas sounds fun.

#

And it makes bro even more unkillable.

#

So who's gonna be the second restricted?

real prairie
#

go with something with Ability shield

#

Ability shield Koraidon had a decent run out

stone trellis
#

Am I just making CSR-Korai + DozoGiri with a different horse?

real prairie
#

pretty much

#

maybe without the Donzogiri too

#

because fuck that whale

stone trellis
#

Isn't it a catfish?

#

Kyogre's a whale.

real prairie
#

IDK, it looks like a whale

#

yes, its a big catfish

stone trellis
#

So Ability Shield Korai...

#

Collision Course and then the standard moves, right?

#

Do I go with a faster build or nah?

foggy lodge
#

Go dragon claw

#

I think that the weezing korai comps need dragon claw to check the mirror and raging bolts

stone trellis
#

Dragon Claw over what?

#

And how fast do I need to go?

#

I feel like the only Speed control that can work next to Weezing is probably Regieleki, but that might be too niche for me.

foggy lodge
#

Flare blitz and the fighting move are mandatory

foggy lodge
stone trellis
stone trellis
foggy lodge
#

Because like Flutter is enoughly fast to outspeed threats considering weezing can deactivate opposing proto boosts and quark drive

#

And that only matters when Weezing and Flutter are both at the same time on the field

stone trellis
#

Yeah, I got it.

#

So Korai, Ice Rider, Weezing and Flutter Mane.

#

I kind of want to run Mystical Fire to bitchslap Magearna.

proud gulch
#

trash or decent?

IMG_1052.png
stone trellis
#

Hard TR?

#

And GOATflame?

#

I'm so mad Reg I is over.

waxen dock
#

i hate people like this

#

dozogiri sleep talk is so annoying,but if you are going to use it at least use normal stall with tspikes why use sleep talk dozogiri

stone trellis
#

But hey, at least you won.

waxen dock
#

i didnt even get 1 crit

stone trellis
#

It's mathematically improbable.

#

I get 3 crits in five turns on some games.

boreal creek
#

Is there an item that prevents flinching and if so is it commonly run by setup pokemon

stone trellis
#

I could run Hearthflame over Brute Bonnet, if I'm being honest.

stone trellis
#

It's mostly put on support Pokemon or Pokemon which don't want to be hindered by things like burns, stats being lowered or getting flinched.

#

Since it eliminates the secondary effects of all moves.

#

So Fake Out can't flinch you.

boreal creek
#

Cause I’m tired of trying to flinch setup users and it not working

stone trellis
#

They're probably either using the Covert Cloak or are just getting mad lucky.

#

Don't rely on flinching.

boreal creek
stone trellis
#

There are.

#

Well, there's only really four counters.

boreal creek
#

Covert cloak psychic terrain protect and what

stone trellis
#
  • Being a Ghost type
  • Tera Ghost
  • Inner Focus
  • Covert Cloak
#

Protect, Psychic Terrain and Armor Tail don't even allow the move to hit.

#

I just got to wait until September 19 now so I can boom people with shiny Chi-Yu.

waxen dock
stone trellis
#

WHO THE FUCK USES FROSMOTH?

waxen dock
#

ribombee

stone trellis
#

The one who got boomed by Light that Burns the Sky?

boreal creek
#

I hate people that use protect right before they die as a final fuck you to waste your time

#

Weakness policy calyrex? Is he stupid?

boreal creek
stone trellis
#

Third or second worst.

#

I'd argue Rock-Ice is a slight bit worse than Bug-Ice.

#

But we're comparing one turd to another, to be honest.

foggy lodge
#

That's so cool

stone trellis
#

HOW DID HE MAKE IT TO THE 1400s

#

HOW CAN YOU MISS HEAT WAVE ON BOTH FUCKING TARGETS?

real prairie
real prairie
#

Ice scales + Aveil is a bitch

real prairie
boreal creek
#

Rillaboom grassy slide is lowkey nuts why does it do so much damage

real prairie
#

grassy terrain boost

#

and a lot are running max attack + miracle seed now

boreal creek
#

It doesn’t make grass moves stronger does it?

real prairie
#

yes it does

boreal creek
#

50%?

tiny karmaBOT
#
Move: Grassy Terrain

For 5 turns, the terrain becomes Grassy Terrain. During the effect, the power of Grass-type attacks used by grounded Pokemon is multiplied by 1.3, the power of Bulldoze, Earthquake, and Magnitude used against grounded Pokemon is multiplied by 0.5, and grounded Pokemon have 1/16 of their maximum HP, rounded down, restored at the end of each turn, including the last turn. Camouflage transforms the user into a Grass type, Nature Power becomes Energy Ball, and Secret Power has a 30% chance to cause sleep. Fails if the current terrain is Grassy Terrain.

Type

Grass

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.4
real prairie
#

1.3x

boreal creek
#

Oh I didn’t know it nerfed earthquake good to know

boreal creek
real prairie
#

yeah thats the common set but lots of other mons in Reg H want AV

boreal creek
#

There isn’t a def version of AV right

real prairie
#

afraid not

boreal creek
#

Sad days

#

Though the implications would be a bit dumb

#

How much does AV boost spd?

real prairie
#

1.5x

boreal creek
#

Yeah that’s quite a boost

real prairie
#

its why Tyranitar is a spcial wall in sand

#

AV + Sand boost

boreal creek
#

If they made a physical version of av then intimidate would be even stronger

#

But what if they made intimidate for spa

real prairie
#

exactly why they haven't for both

boreal creek
#

Prob saw how strong intimidate was and gave up on it

dusty jungle
stone trellis
#

SpD = Special Defense.

dusty jungle
gentle cragBOT
dusty jungle
#

With how many little nuances there are I didn't doubt it tho tbh

stone trellis
#

Yeah...

boreal creek
#

how strong would a 600 bst pokemon that had 0 speed be

stone trellis
#

This team I'm using is the opposite of fun, I'm probably going to quit VGC for a while.

stone trellis
boreal creek
stone trellis
#

And it depends on how the other stats are distributed, the ability, the typing and the movepool.

dusty jungle
#

Can anyone explain to me why dawn wings necrozma feels so fragile? I've tried 3 different ev spreads it dies in one MAYBE 2 shots every time so I'm nkt getting trick room off alot

stone trellis
#

Ghost-Psychic.

dusty jungle
boreal creek
dusty jungle
stone trellis
#

Yeah, unless you're Garchomp, Lunala or Lando-T, you are NOT living a 4x weakness.

boreal creek
#

pretty much. dawn wings supposedly isnt that great tho

stone trellis
boreal creek
#

lunala is a way better pokemon overall i hear

dusty jungle
#

In hard trickroom?

boreal creek
#

theyre both not great in trick room

dusty jungle
#

Caly ice
Bm ursaluna
Dw necrozma
Foongus
Gothetelle
And decorate smeargle

#

Is what I have rn

foggy lodge
#

Foongus what

dusty jungle
#

The evolution mb

#

Amoonguss

boreal creek
knotty mirage
dusty jungle
#

But it's not good for trick room?

#

Even with 0 speed ivs?

boreal creek
#

It has a 77 speed stat

#

You can make it work i guess

knotty mirage
#

I mean back then it is decent partner for caly ice

#

But now there magearna

boreal creek
#

But any real trick room team will wipe the floor with you

foggy lodge
#

I like hard TR Amoonguss actually

boreal creek
#

God magearna is pissing me off

dusty jungle
#

I do have a megerna

#

Magearna*

foggy lodge
#

I think it's a good support for the style of team that is and can allow the team to be less win in 5 turns or lose in 6 turns

knotty mirage
#

Well if you want to use hard trick room caly ice and magearna is like the best you could ever use for your restricted slot

tiny karmaBOT
#
Pokémon No. 801: Magearna
Types

Steel/Fairy

Abilities

Soul-Heart

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/95/115/130/115/65

Total

600

Other Formes

Magearna-Original

Sableye version 4.28.4
boreal creek
#

Like what is that

knotty mirage
#

Scarfape and magearna combo with caly ice on the back is ussualy really annoying or almost impossible to beat so there's that

boreal creek
#

Wtf is scarfape

knotty mirage
#

Scarf annihilape you know the final gambit shinenigan

dusty jungle
#

I thought it meant infernale 😢

#

Infernape*

#

Why does magerna take a restricted slot it's not a box or dlc poster legend

knotty mirage
#

You know how it work magearna set up trick room annihilape use final gambit too ohko one of your mon and then magearna get +2 from ape and your mon fainted

boreal creek
knotty mirage
#

I think mythical just count or treated the same as box legend

dusty jungle
#

So theoretically If some loser totally not me were to maybe use magerna over beloved lunala/necrozma how would i

boreal creek
#

Best type in the game, one of the best abilities in the game, insanely tanky, can tera out of her weaknesses, great in trick room

#

Great move pool

knotty mirage
#

Have you tried using caly s and zam by any chance too try counter magearna

dusty jungle
#

I live zamazenta

#

Love*

knotty mirage
#

I think caly s and tera ghost zam just hard counter magearna scarfape combo

boreal creek
knotty mirage
#

If you meet them the best thing you could do is open with caly s with zam tera ghost zamazenta and then just body press astral barrage magearna

dusty jungle
#

So what support mons are good for trick room

BM ursaluna
Caly ice
Magerna

boreal creek
#

Support pokemon I mean

solid frigate
#

Amogus:

dusty jungle
#

I have a shiny one but it's hypertrained to 6 best stats

boreal creek
solid frigate
boreal creek
#

Oh

dusty jungle
# solid frigate Amogus:

I can't figure how to use the damn mushroom right heart forever for my opponent but 2 seconds for me

solid frigate
#

Magerena already learns TR Anyway

boreal creek
#

I saw someone running hoopa unbound trickroom yesterday

dusty jungle
#

My mushroom has I think 168 def 108 sp def And max hp ev wise

knotty mirage
#

But are you sure isn't like the most annoying thing on reg j ladder is people who hard focused trying too make dark void have 100% accuracy not magearna

boreal creek
#

I’m praying hoopa is available in the ZA dlc because I missed the event for him

solid frigate
knotty mirage
#

Yeah they can just change the terrain too something else like i always see poeple who use darkrai also use rilla or indeedee

boreal creek
#

Rilla and indeedee are just amazing pokemon and work with so much

dusty jungle
#

So should indeedee always be part of my opening unless smth specific is om the other team?

#

On*

boreal creek
#

Indeedee is almost always a safe opener

dusty jungle
#

When is it not?

boreal creek
#

Unless you know that the person is gonna open with a sash pokemon and you want two attackers

dusty jungle
#

Ah

#

Thick decorates smeargles a good pick then for the team or naw?

boreal creek
#

I know nothing about smeargle

dusty jungle
#

Ah

spiral ridge
waxen dock
#

I still didnt get my points from the gc

boreal creek
#

I love getting stalled to a loss it’s so fun

#

I love when relic song gets a flinch and a sleep

#

Legit lost me the game

stone trellis
#

?

left bobcat
#

?

boreal creek
#

Wait can’t you build arceus to be an insane tank if you want

#

All in on hp and def and assault vest

left bobcat
#

Eh not sure about an assault vest

boreal creek
#

But you could

left bobcat
#

Uh sure

#

Is it gonna be a physical or a special attacker?

boreal creek
left bobcat
stone trellis
#

Every day, I wake up and I thank God for making Surging Strikes always crit.

fresh remnant
#

hey guys

#

could anyone coach or just look over my gameplay trying to climb ladder but im new to bgc

#

vgc

dense latch
#

if so just send the replays here

fresh remnant
#

no scarlet and violet but already 1600 on showdown is that enough ?

dense latch
#

damn that's really good

fresh remnant
#

i dont think it is 99 % of the players are bots

#

you get me like there not real ppl

dense latch
#

that's top 200 in reg h

fresh remnant
#

its rej J atm

#

im using just looking to grind ranked battles

#

anyways @thick current would u know anyone who has a spare 30 - 40 mins who can just watch me battle on scarlet and violet

#

just make sure im doing the right decison

waxen dock
#

it took me a year from when i started to play vgc to get to 1600

craggy dagger
#

why are you pinging a mod kekwhy

woven pelican
#

em of all mods too

fresh remnant
#

whats wrong with that ?

bold geode
fresh remnant
#

sorry did i commit a crime

chrome knot
thick current
thick current
craggy dagger
#

what’s up,

chrome knot
#

nmm

#

howre u silly

grizzled ruin
#

Just a rwminder Second running of the weekly tuesday night reg h tour, come join bting a tean to tweak try out or plain cause chaos. All are welcome

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bold geode
bold geode
#

Nvm I got it

real prairie
stone trellis
#

Doesn't it say the UTC time?

#

Just convert that.

craggy dagger
real prairie
#

TBF i don't even have a team built on cart yet lol

grizzled ruin
real prairie
#

Ooof 1am

bold geode
#

You

craggy dagger
#

hi

grizzled ruin
#

Sorry i thought i wrote in the est i think i only included it in the twitter

real prairie
#

Im tempted NGL

#

but 1am for 15 games is a tough shift haha

stone trellis
#

3 AM for me...

grizzled ruin
#

Welll play as. Many as you want just an open reg h tour to practice and or try teams etc

grizzled ruin
#

I may do a 4pm utc to 6:59pm utc one on another day

real prairie
#

weekends are good lol

grizzled ruin
#

Aye oh i agre3 but my weekends woyld b3 same time cause kids but i agre lol @real prairie

real prairie
#

i have 3 kids myself mate, but even if its 1am on a weekend idgaf about staying up haha

bold geode
grizzled ruin
#

Ohh thats whst you meant i waa thinking i cajt run it during the day lol one of em lil cant leave outta my sight when awake 😉 @real prairie

real prairie
#

danke

bold geode
#

Also I will admit
I have woken up at 5:30 - 6 AM just to play in Japanese ladder tours before

grizzled ruin
chrome knot
real prairie
#

playing this team is hell to me

craggy dagger
#

meanie

real prairie
chrome knot
stone trellis
grizzled ruin
#

Lije plus 4 np plus make it rain or sb and just keel

#

Or am i misreading it

#

@real prairie ( i just started leaening how to self review my games for missed chances)

real prairie
grizzled ruin
#

I mean turn 3 @real prairie

#

Board state read as thrm not losing out fron a second np to try to sweep

real prairie
grizzled ruin
#

Yah suppose so ( something i learned weather war means nothing vs a +4 gholdie. Sb will near one shot an arch

#

I actuqlly learned tgis by playing peli rain tail room as my first real team lol

stone trellis
#

My first real team was also Pelipper TailRoom.

grizzled ruin
stone trellis
real prairie
bold geode
grizzled ruin
next stump
grizzled ruin
real prairie
polar canyon
bold geode
next stump
#

it’s only official streams where nicknames are off

polar canyon
#

I had no idea

next stump
#

yep hahaha, nickname away

#

they do have a few rules about them in general though

polar canyon
#

quiver dance on 20 hp volc against a spread move user is generational greed

#

then coaching + tera dark against the sylveon

#

maybe top level players just have a thought process so advanced it loops back around to looking bad to me

next stump
#

sometimes the game state is so bad you need to swing for the fences lol

real prairie
#

think i found my last 2

#

(he said for the 10th time)

bold geode
#

Y'all talking about the finals set that came with its own theme music KEKW

real prairie
bold geode
#

I love the video is playing Cynthia's theme

#

@next stump I love that we'll never get to know what teams were at Monterrey

primal saddle
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anyone good with reg h?

bold geode
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What you need

primal saddle
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i am trying to craft a team

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hyper offense / tailwind

bold geode
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Ok

primal saddle
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i might be trollling

bold geode
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Nah nah
Did you have any ideas on mons or

primal saddle
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really want to make the weezing pokemon work

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this team is around 1300-1400 rn but wondering if thats all i can do with it

bold geode
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Low-key what you're playing is sort of close to Wolfe's Baltimore team, but like
Yeah other than that idk how good this team really is

primal saddle
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wolfes baltimore team ? can you link it

bold geode
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Um lemme

real prairie
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tera flying weezing imo

bold geode
real prairie
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so you can run it with your own Garchomp

primal saddle
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great call i was thinking thiat too jack

bold geode
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Thing too is this team is very outdated
But tbh idk how good Weezing really is now

real prairie
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in this team maybe go AV Tyranitar instead of AV Ursaluna

primal saddle
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does weezing just suck ?

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lol

real prairie
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has its uses, usually as a support. but offensive Weezing is ok

bold geode
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I will say though personally if you're looking at more offensive teams, I would look into teams focused around the duo of Sneasler and Male Indeedee, those teams are really damn good

primal saddle
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yeah with unburden, i have a team like that

real prairie
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in or out of TR

primal saddle
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im just hot on this weezing

bold geode
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Especially since right now they're all Sand teams and I think Sand is super strong right now

real prairie
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i think Weezing is a good enough strategy

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misty explosion a physical or special attack? that could be hella funny with specs

tiny karmaBOT
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Move: Misty Explosion

If the current terrain is Misty Terrain and the user is grounded, this move's power is multiplied by 1.5. The user faints after using this move, even if this move fails for having no target. This move is prevented from executing if any active Pokemon has the Damp Ability.

Type

Fairy

Category

Special

Power

100

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

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Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.4
real prairie
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oh its only 100 power

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forget that

bold geode
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For that you need Misty Terrain though

real prairie
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yeah forget that, i thought it was 150 and 200 in terrain

primal saddle
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i like where your heads are at

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i thought weezng is well positioned due to weather teams

bold geode
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I mean yeah Neutralizing Gas helps with that
Just the issue is like
You always gotta consider the fact that you're not only shutting off your opponent's abilities but also your own

primal saddle
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do my pokemon care that much about abililties?

bold geode
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And like
Yeah that doesn't matter for Garchomp for example who has Rough Skin but then you're also shutting off Good as Gold and Minds Eye which are two BROKEN abilities

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Basically you're dancing around your own Weezing rn too if that makes sense

primal saddle
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i dont think good as gold is ALWAYS broken

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i get minds eye though

bold geode
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Right now it really is

primal saddle
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maybe there is a diff trick room pokemon i could try

bold geode
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Good as Gold makes all status moves not work

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So it can't be Taunted, Spored, Thunder Waved, etc.

primal saddle
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what slow attackers...armarouge? idk this concept might just suck

real prairie
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you could run ability shield

primal saddle
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on gholdengo ?

bold geode
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I think at that point we're really reaching for anything

primal saddle
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yeah youre right, idk what to put

bold geode
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Yeah honestly I just don't know about Weezing it's rough

primal saddle
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i dont either i really want it to work

bold geode
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Like I like the idea you had there, but like
Idk tbf Weezing is just difficult to work with

primal saddle
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trust

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mght have to scrap it

bold geode
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Basically the thing is I would try to either find Pokemon that don't care too much about their abilities or ones with abilities that hurt them

primal saddle
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yeah, im thinking about somethinig to replace BM-U

real prairie
molten oasis
real prairie
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ill throw something together, give me a min lol

primal saddle
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oh true

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im excited to see this, im gonna run an errand and check back

bold geode
molten oasis
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I have returned once more

bold geode
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No you haven't

real prairie
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i knew i should have clicked rage fist

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no risk no reward

molten oasis
dense latch
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not everything but top 128 at least

bold geode
gentle cragBOT
bold geode
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I'm glad to see a Tera Steel Scale Shot set
Tera Steel Dnite goes hard

real prairie
primal saddle
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woah

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ill try it out

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thanks!!!!!!

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why that EV spread on ttar?

real prairie
real prairie
primal saddle
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lol typhlosion is a lot of fun rihgt?

real prairie
primal saddle
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il test both, thanks again for trying

pulsar cloak
fresh remnant
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can anyone har coach me

dense latch
primal saddle
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yeah from testing its feelng like weezing should be a support mon

dense latch
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some extra speed control or redirection

primal saddle
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offensive weezng is just ridiculously bad

dense latch
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i also just feel like weezing hurts your team more than it helps

primal saddle
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lol

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i feel that, i really want to make the mon work

dense latch
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dengo dnite and ttar are as good as they are in part for their abilities

primal saddle
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i could go corviknight instead of dnite, and toedscruel instead of dengo

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idk i give up lol

shadow wind
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I’m going back to Weezing Slaking

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Seeing Weezing in Reg H makes me happy

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What hits harder a Slaking double edge or Blursa blood moon?

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It’s Slaking right?

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252 Atk Slaking Double-Edge vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mew: 120-142 (68.5 - 81.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252+ SpA Ursaluna-Bloodmoon Blood Moon vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Mew: 135-160 (77.1 - 91.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

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My goat is washed

boreal creek
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How did this ursaluna use two moves then run out and use struggle and then use another regular move

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Is it actually a strat to only have blood moon on ursaluna so that you can use struggle

next stump
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no hahaha not a real strat

boreal creek
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Well this guy did it

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I hate whimsicott with all my soul

boreal creek
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Opponent sends out indeedee and ice rider
I send out indeedee and shadow rider
I one shot ice rider and hard read the trick room play so I counter trick room the same turn
They DC

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I think that’s the best feeling ever

shadow wind
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What's a good speed tier for Gholdengo?

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@dense latch Too much oil or not enough pan?

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forest arrow
shadow wind
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🙏 THIS IS WHY WE LOVE WEEZING

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boreal creek
shadow wind
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Sneasler can't do anything funny

boreal creek
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Why not

shadow wind
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Because Weezing goated

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Probably not the best reason for me loving weezing

cyan smelt
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is that pengy's team

austere iron
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well it was meta at one point

shadow wind
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But it's a reason nonetheless

shadow wind