competitive_discussion

[rustic mountain]

[short quiver]

yo @shadow wind what charms do i need to do the air blade thingies

[shadow wind]

Grubberyfly's Elegy

[short quiver]

im asking in advance im buying both games tomorrow

[shadow wind]

Holy I responded way too quickly

[short quiver]

theres a 50/50 chance i remember that 😭

[short quiver]

aye man i aint judging

ik someone i can ask if i get stuck somewhere which is good

[shadow wind]

I played that game to death

And now I get a new one tomorrow !!!!

9 hours 🙏

[short quiver]

i never got the chance to play hollow knight 😔

im experiencing both games tomorrow

[shadow wind]

That's fire

[short quiver]

and i saw an instagram reel with this guy using air blades

I WANT THEM

[shadow wind]

They kinda suck if I'm being honest

[short quiver]

i dont care that looks cool as fuck

[shadow wind]

But they're pretty neat

You also need to be at full HP

Also they are a late game charm just so you know

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-noooo-nooo-noo-no-gif-17139315586294057944

how early can i get the needle one

[shadow wind]

The needle one?

[short quiver]

yeah he was like throwing needles

he was at like medium-close range to the boss he was fighting

[shadow wind]

In Hollow Knight?

[short quiver]

yeah

[shadow wind]

Hmm

Not sure if I know which one you're talking about

[short quiver]

it was hollow knight and they werr straight up needles

there were HUGE needles

like, twice the size of the Knight

[shadow wind]

Were they using a skin?

[short quiver]

uh

i dont believe so it just looked like normal Knight to me

[shadow wind]

If you could find a photo I bet I could figure it out

[short quiver]

i cannot find that reel ive been doomscrolling for 4 hours

[shadow wind]

Fair

I'm just trying to think cause nothing I can recall looks like needles

[short quiver]

i can probably google it maybe

maybe it was longnail??

[shadow wind]

Oh like the actual knights nail?

[short quiver]

idk what the animation in game looks like but that sounds like its possibly it

[short quiver]

in the reel the guy was throwing needles/nails at the enemy though

[shadow wind]

I don't know if there's any charms that allows you to "throw" anything

[short quiver]

he coulda have been jabbing from a far range maybe

maybe it was just longnail??

[shadow wind]

Longnail + Mark of pride makes it super long

[short quiver]

maybe thats what he was doing

i also saw a charm that does like magical damage

he like plunged and black energy formed around him??? idk how to describe it

[shadow wind]

Downwards?

[short quiver]

yeah

for anyone wondering yes we are having a very competitive discussion rn

[shadow wind]

Probably just descending dark

Which is an upgraded version of desolate dive

A very good spell

[dense latch]

huh

[short quiver]

💀

[dense latch]

how is this guy almost 1600

[short quiver]

so is there actual magic damage??

[short quiver]

because everyone probably expected him to have armor tail?

[shadow wind]

Yeah there's 3 spells

[short quiver]

so they didnt bother clicking prio moves

[short quiver]

only 3??

thats a shame

[shadow wind]

3 but they can all be upgraded

[short quiver]

i saw a charm that said something about breathing fire. is this true?

[shadow wind]

Breathing fire?

As far as I know nah

[short quiver]

it said something about fire

[shadow wind]

There's a spell that is often called "Fire ball" but it's not actually a fire ball

[short quiver]

what is it then

[shadow wind]

Well it's vengeful spirit

But there is no breathing fire

[short quiver]

😔

[boreal abyss]

which is a better koraidon x/31/30/x/x/x or x/30/31/x/x/x

[stone trellis]

Why does it matter?

Hyper train both.

[boreal abyss]

this is on cobblemon and I can only max out one iv, so I'm asking which ones is better competitive wise

[stone trellis]

I guess it could be the 31 Attack IV one.

30 Defense and 31 Defense have the same Defense stat if you don't invest in Defense.

[boreal abyss]

tyy

[real prairie]

Triple Axel Tsareena murders Rilla, and ill die on that hill

[shadow wind]

Well yeah

[real prairie]

Im just an avid Tsareena user haha

helped keep my Scarf Whale alive by negating Rilla grassy glide

and fast enough to finish it off for most Rilla sets.

although no in Reg H 😭

too many fast Rilla

oh and the absense of Whale

[stone trellis]

How come?

I know Meowscarada kicks the shit out of Rilla because of Protean, but how does Tsareena do it?

[short quiver]

120 base attack

[real prairie]

High Atk + faster + negates priority

it wont OHKO, but it will do 70%+ which combined with a spread move from a fast partner leaves Rilla cooked

why are fresh start mochi so damn hard to get

[stone trellis]

Just do Hard mode.

[shell meadow]

Can I use a rental team to sign up for online competitions?

[real prairie]

I did, took 3 attempts to get 2 Mochi

[real prairie]

no

Team locked in for GC! https://pokepast.es/ee45e29b4c70ee8c

Ghould is tera dragon

[shell meadow]

Okay, thanks for the answer.

[gentle crag]

jonissolis has given 1 Gen Rep to averagejack_yt

[real prairie]

IT WORKS! https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2434946735-v7xwmb18v47hp59xo0k7kk97ofyrlerpw

[cyan smelt]

Are you av incin?

[real prairie]

Nope, Red card lol

[cyan smelt]

Oh how did I not register that

I just commonly associate U turn incin with av

[real prairie]

too many things stopping parting shot now

[cyan smelt]

Clam and what else?

[real prairie]

magic bounce

[cyan smelt]

Oh right that

[real prairie]

follow me too, which althought doesn't prevent parting shot, but I really dgaf about lowering Indeedee stats

hitting it for good damage >>>

[wooden steeple]

also breaking sashes is so good sometimes

[cyan smelt]

That's why my blursa has vacuum wave

[wooden steeple]

also gholdengo

[real prairie]

perfect game: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2434969021

[cyan smelt]

i finally figured out why i've been struggling so much and maybe why i've struggled at certain things during my life

[wooden steeple]

that unnecessary protect on ludicolo hurt my soul lol

[real prairie]

which turn?

[boreal abyss]

you guys got any singles team?

[real prairie]

oh?

[wooden steeple]

when dnite hazed

[real prairie]

wood hammer or Gglide + Espeed kills me there

[real prairie]

This was less perfect but a wins a win 🤣 https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2434989238

Gglide on its own might kill infact

[wooden steeple]

you were faster and only threatening resisted hits, espeed would still do the same thing next turn if it was available and you weren't really preserving a valuable mon by keeping it around

also you were faster than rilla so wood hammer wouldn't even go before you

[real prairie]

Gglide or wood hammer threaten the kill, and Muddy water or bullet seed dont kill Rilla

[wooden steeple]

exactly, you were preserving nothing by keeping it around

[real prairie]

god forbid i miss too

[cyan smelt]

yeah the autism means i struggle with abstract thinking and that's also why i struggled with my philosophy subjects at uni and maths and science at school

[wooden steeple]

they were more likely to miss cuz of their accuracy drop too

[real prairie]

so just sacrifice the +3 Ludicolo for chip on Dnite + Rilla?

how does that help lol

and if Gglide KO's thats probs GG

as im not defensively bulky

[wooden steeple]

it helps because your ludicolo already did what it had to by killing kingambit and was literally only threatening resists on everything

[real prairie]

+3 resists still hit hard

[wooden steeple]

exactly so you gotta take the chance to go for the hits

protect was the only play where you could ever not get more hits with it

espeed would still have been a threat the turn after, the only play where protecting made a difference was haze which was what your opponent had and made their position slightly better

[real prairie]

Gglide kills there and i just lose the game

Hi @cyan smelt lol

[wooden steeple]

I don't think you do

[real prairie]

GG @cyan smelt

[cyan smelt]

ggwp

[real prairie]

you had me pinned with the encores

its why i wanted to fit anti priority in the team lol

[cyan smelt]

tera dark something?

[real prairie]

too late now, team is in locked for GC this weekend. but maybe before Lille

[cyan smelt]

you could go tsareena

[real prairie]

for who?

[cyan smelt]

how useful has gholdengo been?

[real prairie]

very

[cyan smelt]

hmmm

taunt incin?

or encore politoed?

if you could have locked me into tailwind you would have won

[real prairie]

maybe, i like specs Poli though

maybe could have led Ghould and gone for killing Whims quickly

[wooden steeple]

specs politoed sounds hilarious ngl

[real prairie]

Its oneshot Arch with earth power before lol

[wooden steeple]

uh I doubt that tbh lol lemme check

yea not even close

252+ SpA Choice Specs Politoed Earth Power vs. 252 HP / 164 SpD Assault Vest Archaludon: 102-120 (51.7 - 60.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

even with lefties instead of av it still lives

[next stump]

could be one of those timid power herb sets

[wooden steeple]

yea but those are sturdy

itll ohko the stalwart ones I guess

[next stump]

https://x.com/vgcvictoryroad/status/1963572757423366453?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddfszOAZ6w

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X · Sep 4, 2025, 12:00 PM

12 hours to lock your team peeps

can’t wait to fight for 5 points

[waxen dock]

im so nervous

i need these points

i need to get 1st place for points

[cyan smelt]

i'm tired of archaludon rain

[waxen dock]

i have good mu against it so im not worried

[polar canyon]

Yall ready?

I'm skipping out on this myself bc I'm lazy

[waxen dock]

do you think i can top 64?

[polar canyon]

I mean I'm not trying to qualify for worlds I don't rlly need the points

[polar canyon]

Not a 0% chance

[stone trellis]

Three of the members' Tera types are wrong on my team, so I'm relying on @cyan smelt to do well with it.

[waxen dock]

i did once top 128

so i can probably top 64

[stone trellis]

I couldn't care less if he does badly, I'll still be proud if he does well.

[polar canyon]

Well it's a lot different knowing your background

Yeah you probably can

[stone trellis]

You can do it.

What team style do you use?

Rain?

[cyan smelt]

what do you mean

[waxen dock]

im just in senior

so most people arent very good

[stone trellis]

I'm also in seniors (albeit by a mistake).

So we might get to battle each other.

[stone trellis]

Who, me?

[polar canyon]

Hey don't downplay your achievements

Only I should be allowed to do that

[waxen dock]

so do you think i can do top 64 overall in gc in senior division?

[polar canyon]

Yeah if you put your heart into it

That's a corny way of saying it's possible if you try hard enough

[waxen dock]

there is someone who top 64 in the last gc and im pretty much his level

[red willow]

Speaking of things that are wrong on teams I accidentally didnt switch incin back over to flare blitz from wisp when I was trying him on rain rip

[real prairie]

Do they usually run 252HP?

[wooden steeple]

every good one yes

more than 4 spa and 12 speed is wasted unless you're calculating for something specific on stamina archaludon

252/252 spa spe is only good on sturdy ones

stalwart ones should at least put 4 in each defensive stat, but realistically those should prolly go at least a lil bit bulkier too

[real prairie]

showdown down for anyone else?

[foggy lodge]

Yeah it's down

It usually dies in the morning for me lol

[real prairie]

I was mid match 😭

[real prairie]

Im running 100sp to speed creep Pelipper

[wooden steeple]

yea if thats something you find relevant, as long as you know what it does, its good

it just hurts my soul seeing 252/252 spe and spa on bulky setup tanks 😭

genuinely 252/252 hp and spded is better

(don't go with that either tho lol)

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/AndyBakesYT/status/1963293535030931932

SlowHomie (@AndyBakesYT)

Now how to dunk on these guys specifically

X · Sep 3, 2025, 5:30 PM

Tyranitar has such a good MU spread on this meta wtf

[waxen dock]

ttar is actually such a good counter to them

low kick knock off and rock slide is all you need

[real prairie]

we love a ludicolo sweep https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2435144386-kdofyjcr4s3papp0urtx4i8wl0yglbepw

[cyan smelt]

locked in for the gc

[shadow wind]

Maybe because he's the goat

[primal saddle]

is reg h on showdown?

sorry, vgc

[stone trellis]

Only on the Global Challenge and IRL tournaments.

[pliant moat]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2435196279

what could I have done differently here. I feel like the only reason I lost was because I missed heatwave

[cyan smelt]

why didn't you protect ogerpon on the last turn of tr? that was your wincon basically

[pliant moat]

dont have protect on it

i have follow me instead

[stone trellis]

It kinda needs Spiky Shield.

[pliant moat]

i have ivy cudgel, power whip, knock off, and follow me

what should I replace for spikey shiedl

[cyan smelt]

knock off

[pliant moat]

ok thank you

[red willow]

why is it saying gc isnt till the 19th thought signups ended and it started today

[next stump]

where’s it saying the 19th?

[short quiver]

did you get to buy silksong before servers everywherr crashed

[shadow wind]

I ended up sleeping in so I bought it 3 hours after drop

It's peak so far

[short quiver]

im at work rn im buying both games as soon as i get home

and im also buying Nine Sol

[shadow wind]

I'd say probably play HK first

Or do whatever

[short quiver]

im playing hollow knight first

then silksong

and THEN ninesol

[split sparrow]

What would be a good team of Pokémon for battles, assuming you aren't allowed to use legendaries?

[short quiver]

so reg h

[red willow]

Idk maybe it was like on victory road wrong or something

It was definitely posted on the internet as 19th earlier I saw it but it does start today correct?

[next stump]

yes, it starts in 5 hours

lock in ends then as well

[red willow]

Thats rough gotta work lol

[solid frigate]

i'm running it back

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/seele-hsr-honkai-star-rail-job-gif-7995214429620917265

[solid frigate]

thats like my second time running Greninja in a GC

[short quiver]

you play hsr right 😃

[solid frigate]

i mean 1.5 year experience so-

[solid frigate]

i mean

i got her as well

[short quiver]

i freed anaxa from therta enslavement and gave him cerydra

it was very funny

[solid frigate]

i'm just

Still using The Big 3 DPS

[short quiver]

which are

[solid frigate]

Therta,Castorice,Phainon

[short quiver]

im using therta and anaxa

before it was therta and yunli but aftergetting cerydra yunli got benched

yes chat this conversation is very competitive

[solid frigate]

entiely carried bby the express pass but whateevr

[short quiver]

:3

[split sparrow]

What would be an ideal Reg H team?

Either solos or doubles, jus tryna get a general consensus as to what people play with

[solid frigate]

there isn't an ideal team i'd say

But best teams usually are Peli Archa Rain teams or Sneasler Balance

[short quiver]

well depends on what the player wants

[solid frigate]

i refrain to say DUG cuz that like another good team but i forgot the teammates

[solid frigate]

at least my character roster isn't cooked compare to you

WDYM HIMEKO CONE ON TING YUN

[split sparrow]

Okay, what are some generally sought after comp pokémon? I've heard Incineroar, and Amoongus are good, but I'm looking for more to breed for IVs

[short quiver]

cuz i dont use tingyun

[solid frigate]

Incin and amoonguss are good defensie backbone for most teams

Keyword,Most.

[short quiver]

and my roster isnt cooked my teams are goated

[split sparrow]

That's actually the key word I'm looking for

I'm looking for something that a lot of people are going to want

[solid frigate]

fair enough

[split sparrow]

Amoongus is usually used for trick room support, no?

[short quiver]

not necessarily

[solid frigate]

@jade dust i am gonna cry

[short quiver]

what 😭

[split sparrow]

Ah, so shouldn't focus 0 speed IV?

[solid frigate]

its universally good

TW teams,trick room teams,balance teams

[short quiver]

you SHOULD but its not defined by trick room

[solid frigate]

for this format,31 IVs are fine

[split sparrow]

I've got best on everything but PG on Sp D and Spd

Trying to drop the speed, an it no worko

[solid frigate]

you can hypertrain it

also in pokemon Speed usually use Spe as acryonm

[split sparrow]

Yh but like, I am PokéBreeder Blackjack!

[solid frigate]

alright fair enough lmao

[jade dust]

That’s why you need to whale

[short quiver]

im not a whale lmaoooo

[solid frigate]

me with the Express carry me lmao

[short quiver]

im a day 1 player

[solid frigate]

HOW ARE YOU DAY 1

[jade dust]

Ah

[short quiver]

i played the game on day 1

[split sparrow]

Just to clarify, not really a comp question, but if I breed all Best stat ditto with all best but 2 PG stat poke, I can beg and pray all I want, and I will never get NG speed?

[jade dust]

I started in 2.4

[short quiver]

omg topaz. give her to me.

[solid frigate]

actually idk cuz i don't breed pokemon most of the time

[solid frigate]

2.3 and i already have 3 decently strong teams lmao (Sunday and tribbieless)

[short quiver]

yeah the thing for me is i vertically invest in units i have instead of getting newer ones

[jade dust]

I can make like 5 teams lol

[solid frigate]

tbf you are a dolphin

I just buy express pass

[red willow]

If I hypothetically read a knock off from an oppsing incin and switch in sneasler would that proc unburden?

[split sparrow]

Do people use Lucario or machamp frequently in comp?

[solid frigate]

it procs unburden if the item is gone

so yeah

[red willow]

Nice

[solid frigate]

Lucario is eh but he would get a glow up in champions thanks to its Mega

Machamp wasn't even in SV

[gentle crag]

morrispxg456 has given 1 Gen Rep to dantetheblackjack

[split sparrow]

Bro RIP machamp, also I wasn't really playing Pokémon when Mega Evolutions were big, but which ones did people steer toward for comp?

I'm assuming that's probably going to be big

[red willow]

Mega mence was p good

[solid frigate]

i'd say for the first time ever

You run Mega Lucario very similar to CSR Zama Teams

like a watered down CSR Zama Team?

with more support than that

[split sparrow]

Bulk breed shiny maxstat mega salamander? 🤔

[solid frigate]

Mega Kangaskhan,Mega Salamence,Mega Zard Y are the good ones you can run

[split sparrow]

X is cooler

[solid frigate]

i think there is two extra more i can think of besides the gen 3 box legendaries

[red willow]

I mean are we sure mence is coming back?

[split sparrow]

Dawg please let me breed Rayquaza

[solid frigate]

eh it works

Like it would work but worse than zard Y

[split sparrow]

I'd just be breeding the Zards, I'm broke so I probably won't be able to afford ZA when it drops

Mf NintenDollars aint cheap

[solid frigate]

Special Mega Mence here we go

[jade dust]

Wait I have Tribbie too

That image is old lol

[split sparrow]

Do people use Gardevoir line or Gothitelle in comp?

[jade dust]

Yeah a dolphin. I don’t have e6 characters so

[split sparrow]

I have so many fucking gardevoirs-

[jade dust]

Not a whale

[short quiver]

tribios

[solid frigate]

gothitelle for Perish Trap (Basically Wolfe Glick's Signature Archetype that everyone is copying cuz its wolfe team)
Gardevoir is good with her Mega cuz Pixilate Hyper Voice hits HARD

[split sparrow]

Well the guy who I was breeding Gothitelle for blew me off (loser), but he wanted B for everything and NG speed

Is it another one that plays off of trick room?

[solid frigate]

like a pokemon that based on Trick room Archetype as a whole?

[split sparrow]

No, I'm more asking if I should focus on getting no good speed for Gothitelle, or if that was something particular for that one dude

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-indeedee-gif-27380411

[solid frigate]

it depends iirc

0 IVs aren't usually the best as you can reach certain IVs to underspeed some mons in TR

but yes Perish Trap Goth is usually 0 speed iirc

[jade dust]

This is a better image

Below this doesn’t matter lmao

[short quiver]

can i have your topaz

[jade dust]

No

I still need her e1

[solid frigate]

man

Love E2 DHIL

[short quiver]

ive been trying to get her since she came out

[jade dust]

Damn

Cuz feet?

[short quiver]

no

[jade dust]

In her lc

[short quiver]

nope thats not why

topaz pretty

also shes the only hunt “support”
in the game

[jade dust]

We have different motives then

[short quiver]

i want her for anaxa

[jade dust]

Yeah now March and Moze exist

What? She does nothing for Anaxa

[short quiver]

march is pookie, and moze is cool aura guy

but topaz. topaz is a baddie fr

[solid frigate]

we all forgot Cipher exists

[short quiver]

i did NOT forget cipher exists

i got her e1s1 the day her banner started

[short quiver]

she doesnt, but i do not care

man fumbled aglaea i gotta put him on with somebody

and cerydra is hysilens scissor sister so that aint gonna work

and sparkle is mine he cant have her

[jade dust]

Same destiny awaits Cerydra

I already forgot she exists and her banner just came out

[short quiver]

NOW WAIT A GODDAMN MINUTE

do not compare cifera to cerydra

hot cat lady should not be compared to nichedra

delete ts rn 😒

[jade dust]

Cipher is not as terrible as Cerydra but she’s niche too

She’s only best for Archer really

And e0 Acheron

[short quiver]

cap

cipher is also good for feixiao, yunli, anaxa, AND therta

shes a universal debuffer

[stone trellis]

Hi.

The hell are you guys talking about?

[short quiver]

honkai star rail. hot women.

[stone trellis]

You got me hooked with the second part.

[short quiver]

lmaoo

[stone trellis]

Anyway, I had an idea.

Icy + Magearna in rain.

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-nonsense-hsr-honkai-star-rail-cipher-gif-17995618412357682967

[stone trellis]

Maybe with Raichu or Electabuzz.

I think I have dementia.

[short quiver]

we had this exact conversation yesterday lmao

you said electabuzz

[stone trellis]

I know.

That's why I said I think I have dementia.

You gave me the idea for Scary Face Landorus and I genuinely can't tell if it's the funniest tech ever or just shit.

[solid frigate]

I mean you can try make CIR Magerena PELI and that would work

[stone trellis]

That's what I was aiming to use.

I just need a way to deal with Miraidon.

[solid frigate]

Wait can’t you just use that team in Reg G finalist during worlds but replace Valiant with Magerena

[stone trellis]

Yuta Ishigaki's team?

I don't like Iron Treads, but sure.

[solid frigate]

I don’t think it has Treads

That’s the one in seniors

Yuta’s Team has Lando iirc

[stone trellis]

You're right.

I'm more keen on Life Orb Landorus, to be honest.

[solid frigate]

Yeah just use that with Magerena and you are good to go

More TR heavy than Yuta’s but it would work more offensively

[stone trellis]

And I could give Urshifu the Choice Scarf to bully Darkrai.

What's it gonna do, Tera Water into Thunderbolt from Magearna?

I could give Magearna the Chesto Berry so it genuinely won't give a shit about Darkrai.

And since CSR dies to Tera Water Surging Strikes anyway, that's not a problem either.

[solid frigate]

Yeah that’s fine

[stone trellis]

Tera Dragon also seems great defensively.

[solid frigate]

Or Lum Berry would be better against like Para or Freeze cuz bro doesn’t care about Poison or Burn

[stone trellis]

Definitely could work.

You're cooking, brother.

I finally have a team to use on ladder.

[solid frigate]

I’m the same guy that bring Greninja Twice in Seperate GCs so

Even tho this current team is made by someone else

(On Blogpost after GC)

[stone trellis]

Aight.

I kind of wanted to use AV Icy so I can actually afford to run 196 Attack even without screens.

But that's Incin food, so...

[solid frigate]

Stick to clear amulet it’s not worth to lose against Incin and I rather have. Another TR setter

[stone trellis]

Yep.

I kind of wanted to use Electabuzz instead of Amoonguss.

Hear me out.

[solid frigate]

I mean I can see it work

[stone trellis]

It also lives Draco from Miraidon, on top of being entirely immune to Dark Void.

And it kind of pins Darkrai.

Tera Dark makes it immune to Prankster from Sableye and helps it wall CSR while Taunt cripples Darkrai.

I kinda love Electabuzz, man.

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-bocchi-dance-anime-dance-anime-cute-dance-gif-8640564821222907754

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-miraidon-plush-spin-silly-gif-7447766115590536849

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-miraidon-gif-951039481942021057

[short quiver]

@jade dust what was that about cipher being niche?

[jade dust]

Yeah she’s niche

Most teams prefer a different character

[short quiver]

tell that to all these teams that 0 cycle with her

[jade dust]

Doesn’t matter

[short quiver]

these are all runs with Cipher

[jade dust]

Doesn’t mean she is flexible or optimal

[short quiver]

but she is

she’s possibly the most universal de buffer in the game

[solid frigate]

as much i loev Cerydra

She is really niche,but she is good at that niche anyway so i'm fine pulling her

Silver Wolf is better than her in overall account invest

[jade dust]

What bothers me the most is how weak her buffs are

10% res pen to skill damage only

[solid frigate]

We don’t talk about V3

[jade dust]

Guess what,other harmonies give 25 res pen to all types of damage

Nah her buffs still suck

But the big thing is the double skill

[solid frigate]

No like V3 is what make me think her kit design is worse than How they buff Incineroar

[jade dust]

Allowing Anaxa and Phanion to skill twice

[solid frigate]

I rather Incineroar’s Buff from Gen 8-9 than Cerydra V3

Cuz wdym departed state

[jade dust]

Departed state was so Phainon specific

Or Hoolay AS too

[solid frigate]

I actually tested Therta with Her in PF

It’s solid but like Robin keeps dying lmao

[jade dust]

Lmao

[jade dust]

Depends on your sustain

[solid frigate]

Sustainless

[jade dust]

Ah

[solid frigate]

My sustains aren’t ass lmao

[jade dust]

PF is easy so I never do sustainless

[solid frigate]

I just do that cuz of Fun

But Therta E1 is workable with Cerydra

Just not Tribbie level

[jade dust]

I mean the issue is Gallagher . He’s a really good character but fuck damn he feels terrible to play if you’re using Robin, Sparkle or Sunday

The supports that never attack enemies

[solid frigate]

I just use Aven for her anyway

[jade dust]

I use Lingsha usually

[short quiver]

@jade dust

niche my ass

cipher is used for basically any showcase in modern hsr

i saw you have her can i see your build

[short quiver]

oh you dont have her

was it Torrent that had her?

[solid frigate]

I have Cerydra I can’t get Cipher cuz of Kebin

[solid frigate]

Meanwhile me:

I think I did 7000+ for my latest 3 AS

[quiet root]

An exception does not prove a rule. Also apoc is arguably cipher's worst game mode

[short quiver]

i use her in apoc anyways 👨‍🦯

[solid frigate]

Also pls level your characters- cuz I see a lot of them not levelled-

[short quiver]

who needs levels when i have eidolons

all the important ones besides anaxa are above 75

[solid frigate]

Sigh

[quiet root]

Everyone

unless your a mega-whale or leviathan or something I suppose. But at that level of spending you should have enough mats to level 80 them anyways

[solid frigate]

Especially For Day 1 player btw

[short quiver]

im not my best is e2s1

[quiet root]

@jade dust What's your cipher's speed?

[short quiver]

they dont have her

[quiet root]

Yea so you need to level

[short quiver]

i thought it was its Torrent that has her

[quiet root]

oh ok

[solid frigate]

170 bare minimum btw

[quiet root]

yea I was just curious to see what speed she was. If she's less than 170 she's 🚮

[solid frigate]

You know I can check your builds with Seeleland if I have your UID lol

[short quiver]

mine is 194 👨‍🦯

[quiet root]

or enka

[short quiver]

who

[solid frigate]

You all lol

[short quiver]

you dont have my uid tho

[quiet root]

But if she's above 170 then she should be quite good. 40% vuln just by existing and recording 24% of damage

great for backloading damage, esp. in teams that are front-loaded a lot, like DoT

[short quiver]

at e1 doesnt that 24% becomes 36%

[jade dust]

@quiet root my Cipher’s speed is 0

[short quiver]

yeah i told him you dont have her

[quiet root]

yea I had not realized that you didn't have her

[solid frigate]

I think I could post my build but it’s nothing crazy

[quiet root]

I have her at 173 speed, and tbh I don't notice that she's there most of the time. But when I take her off the team my damage is crippled

[short quiver]

she shreds a lot of defense

especially if you have her lc

it gets lowkey crazy

[quiet root]

she has no def shred in her kit, only in her lc iirc

[jade dust]

Exactly

[short quiver]

yeah but 40% vuln is calced the same

https://tenor.com/view/same-different-but-still-gif-18224441

[solid frigate]

Anyways here’s the Therta Build cuz why not

[short quiver]

wife

[quiet root]

40% vuln is just 40% extra damage, 40% def shred with no extra def shred sources is a 26% damage increase

at level 90 enemies

[short quiver]

back to my question doesnt her 24% damage counter become a 36% damage counter at e1

[quiet root]

should

[quiet root]

Yea but that puts you in a position where I'm not inclined to trust you. You don't have her, so you can't really say whether she's good or not

[jade dust]

I don’t but I know what she offers and other characters offer more

It’s an opportunity cost problem

[short quiver]

?????????

how is it possible to be this wrong

[jade dust]

Tribbie, Sunday, Robin

[strange juniper]

yeah cipher is good but against almost any other premium harmony there's no contest

harmony is just busted

[solid frigate]

We even attract Admins in LMAO

[strange juniper]

with cerydra being a notable exception unless your name is anaxa or phainon

[quiet root]

she offers 40 + 24 = 64% more damage, team wide, and can wear pearls or something for more amp. In teams like fei she's insane. She also doesn't need to skill, so she can gen a whole lot of sp

[solid frigate]

Give her credit

She does the niche pretty well

But yeah that’s excluding her is real

[jade dust]

Tribbie doesn’t need to skill either

[short quiver]

you skill once and then have to every 3 turns. cipher doesnt at ALL need to skill

[short quiver]

or archer for sustainless runs

[quiet root]

a) yes she does, every 3t
b) she's very slow

she offers 33% vuln and 24% res pen, which calc to lower damage amp than cipher. However, tribbie's personal damage is very good so it about equals out

[craggy dagger]

that’s true

still, cipher is nice to have

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-nonsense-hsr-honkai-star-rail-cipher-gif-17995618412357682967

[craggy dagger]

i’m curious, if you have robin, what’s her attack at?

[quiet root]

should be 4k+

[craggy dagger]

cuz i have her at 5K but i know i can push that further…

[quiet root]

atk rope?

[short quiver]

probably

[craggy dagger]

yeah

[short quiver]

please change that to er 😭

[craggy dagger]

but also S1 and run with HH so i don’t need to worry about energy as much

[short quiver]

should still be er i believe 🫠

[quiet root]

just wait till you do susless

[jade dust]

Yeah and often the fight is fine before Tribbie takes 3 turns

[craggy dagger]

i’ve done sustainless robin and she still gets her ult back so fast 😭

[solid frigate]

Trust me Nova does quirky stuff in Pokémon and HSR lmao

[quiet root]

Yea but she gens no sp

[craggy dagger]

uh

[jade dust]

Actually she can but it’s specific

With Ruan Mei cone

[craggy dagger]

i was gonna say lol

[jade dust]

It’s funny

[craggy dagger]

shhhh
you’re gonna expose me
||we don’t talk about crit rappa-||

[quiet root]

I thought you were just going to bring up eagle. That's more generalized than ruan cone, but still only for specific rotations

[short quiver]

i used break effect guinaifen crit rappa isnt the worst thing ever

[quiet root]

Cipher's a jack of all trades, master of none type of character. That being said, she has a very good amp in her base kit, and has really good utility for 0-cyclers, backloading a lot of damage to the second wave.

[jade dust]

She’s fine but not preferred for most teams

[solid frigate]

|| 170 Huo2 ||

[craggy dagger]

she still falls short of premium harmony units regardless

[jade dust]

Cuz most teams have a best support

[craggy dagger]

correction
185…

[quiet root]

except for 0-cycles

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-funny-seals-seal-funny-fun-animal-gif-17880262

[craggy dagger]

that’s still
debatable

[short quiver]

even if you have bobin for said 0 cycles youd still want Cipher anyways

[craggy dagger]

mmmm

sure

i've got cipher and i stopped using her on both my feixiao and acheron teams-

[quiet root]

If you go onto tuopamif a lot of 0-cycles use her, when they're not using a f2p character to cut costs

[quiet root]

really? Who do you use instead for fei?

[craggy dagger]

she
kinda just exists rn
replaces RM on castorice teams...

[craggy dagger]

topaz

[short quiver]

💀

[quiet root]

💀 💀 💀

Moze is better than topaz 😭 😭

[craggy dagger]

mines built kinda fast-
so i have ult up pretty quick too .-.

[craggy dagger]

debatable :3

prefer topaz cuz of the mark she applies

[quiet root]

he has a higher ceiling than her, but a lower floor

[craggy dagger]

-# and also e1 -3-

[short quiver]

😑

[craggy dagger]

what?
e1s1 topaz is good .-.

[short quiver]

moze is STILL better

[quiet root]

moze is still better than e6 topaz when he's played well

[craggy dagger]

also e1 was a mistake pull so might as well as make the most of it

[short quiver]

and even if you are using topaz you should still be using cipher anyways????

[quiet root]

and cipher is generally better than moze, unless you're going for low-av clears

[short quiver]

and this is even more reason to use cipher by the way

[quiet root]

just because moze can spam fuas with no cooldown

[craggy dagger]

i use both .-.

[quiet root]

200 speed cipher + eagle fei goes hard

[short quiver]

cipher and topaz?

[craggy dagger]

fei ciphy topaz robin
but
ill swap ciphy for sunday

[short quiver]

what 😭

[quiet root]

dual sub dps?????

[craggy dagger]

mhm...

what
if it clears then oh well

[short quiver]

i mean topaz and cipher do provide a lot of damage to fei

sunday does not make sense in this team at all thiugh

[quiet root]

No. It does not

[quiet root]

action advance + cd + cr

[short quiver]

still doesnt make sense in an FUA team 😑

[craggy dagger]

also

[quiet root]

it kinda does. Makes more sense than topaz. Looking at Tuopaimf, I don't see any topaz + fei runs, but I see a few fei + sunday runs

[short quiver]

fei sunday cipher robin?

i suppose

[quiet root]

yea he's fine as the 4th slot

have to tune accordingly though

[short quiver]

“if your nothing without the suit sunday then you shouldnt have it” -Iron Man, Robert Downey Jr.

[quiet root]

should swap topaz out, cipher's just better

unless your cipher is built poorly

[solid frigate]

Her Cipher is really good so

[quiet root]

also @craggy dagger is your fei on eagle?

[craggy dagger]

naw

[quiet root]

🧱

Ok anyway the hsr discussion looks to be over, I shall take my leave now.

Poofs into thin air

[foggy lodge]

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FxTwitter · Sep 4, 2025, 5:00 PM

[short quiver]

see you back in kekvins server

[solid frigate]

welp i guess i am ready for GC

[red willow]

Should I fake an emergency at work so I can go home early and jam my gc games lmao

[short quiver]

im ready to no life hollow knight

im so excited

[red willow]

I always get that mixed up with the lil guy in armor with the shovel

[short quiver]

nope lmao. hollow knight is the little guy with the needle

[red willow]

Nice lol

[short quiver]

im buying both hollow knight games

and nine sol all 3 at once

[red willow]

When Im not jamming pokemon or mtg I usually just end up playing some stupidly long rpg I never end up finishing lmao

[short quiver]

relatable

im no lifing hollow knight cuz the sequel game came out this morning

so im playing both games in order

[near crag]

does any one have the rental for the team that just won the vr tour?

couldn't find it anywhere

[craggy dagger]

skillsong

[short quiver]

real

[bold geode]

Stinksong 🫵

[short quiver]

GET OUT 🗣️🗣️

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/shusher-home-captain-smek-gif-16112908977447177811

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/tip-tucci-home-dreamworks-dreamworks-sad-girl-telephone-gif-22561771

[solid frigate]

this is a fucking joke-

Where is reg F-

[steep basin]

Ehem reg E is also missing

[short quiver]

@shadow wind what is this

[solid frigate]

Reg E honestly doesnt matter

Its like Reg B where its the middle phase of a format

Regional Dex Reg A-C,Reg H
National Dex Reg D-F
Restricteds Reg G,Reg I,Reg J

So Reg A,B and E doesnt' matter cuz they are beginning and middling phase

The only reason why Reg D is here cuz its a format for Worlds

https://x.com/Dimsunlight/status/1963612194962088234

Lmfao

Toler Webb (@Dimsunlight)

Silksong released today

X · Sep 4, 2025, 2:36 PM

[shadow wind]

That’s me bro

[bold geode]

YOOOOTTTTTAAAAAMMMMMM

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[solid frigate]

he has dive into the hype of Silksong

he will be missed

[next stump]

good luck in the GC everyone 🙂

[forest arrow]

Gl to everyone!

[solid frigate]

Good Luck and don’t throw your Controllers when Sneasler Dire Claws you

[polar canyon]

Its real

[solid frigate]

2-2

i'll take it but i have to sleep

[chrome knot]

starbitsQ9R24's rating: 1490 → 1512
(+22 for winning)
B0pp's rating: 1522 → 1500
(-22 for losing)

yay! :3

[craggy dagger]

@chrome knot
um
what?

https://x.com/vancouvervgc/status/1963682447369126360?s=46

[chrome knot]

yes vancouvervgc tweets are insanely satire

[craggy dagger]

oh

[chrome knot]

the silly!

[stone trellis]

I'm getting ready to head back home.

How's everybody doing?

[old jay]

How it feels having a non-competitive playing friend ask about competitive

[stone trellis]

This is like me trying to explain how giving one Pokemon Intimidate, Parting Shot, Fake Out, Will-o-Wisp and Taunt is way too much.

[old jay]

ON GOD!!

[chrome knot]

aint readin allat

happy for you or sorry that happened

[stone trellis]

And the moment restricted legends are mentioned, I immediately list every single one off rip.

It's just a reflex at this point.

[old jay]

I can name all the restricted mythicals 👍

Because its all of them

Thats a lie actually I forget that volcanion exists 90% of the time

[stone trellis]

Name every legendary (regular and restricted), mythical, Ultra Beast and paradox Pokemon right now.

[old jay]

Okay I genuinely want to try now

Legendaries: Mewtwo, Lugia, Ho-oh, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Zekrom, Reshiram, Kyruem, Xerneas, Yveltal, Zygarde, Lunala, Sogaleo, Necrozma, Zacian, Zamazenta, Eturnatus, Calyrex, Miraidon, Koraidon, Terapagos

Mythicals: Mew, Celibi, Jirachi, Deoxys, Shaymin, Manaphy, Darkrai, Melloetta, Genesect, Victini, Keldeo, Volcanion, Diancie, Magearna, Zeroaura, Zarude, Pecharunt

Idk about the others

Oh and arcues

[stone trellis]

Articuno, Zapdos, Moltres, Mewtwo, Mew Raikou, Entei, Suicune, Ho-oh, Lugia, Celebi, Regirock, Regice, Registeel, Latias, Latios, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Heatran, Cresselia, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Regigigas, Uxie, Mesprit, Azelf, Phione, Manaphy, Darkrai, Shaymin, Arceus, Tornadus, Thundurus, Reshiram, Zekrom, Landorus, Kyurem, Victini, Meloetta, Keldeo, Genesect, Xerneas, Yveltal, Zygarde, Diancie, Hoopa, Volcanion, Tapu Koko, Tapu Lele, Tapu Bulu, Tapu Fini, Cosmog, Cosmoem, Solgaleo, Lunala, Nihilego, Kartana, Celesteela, Xurkitree, Pheromosa, Buzzwole,
Stakataka, Necrozma, Magearna, Poipole, Naganadel, Blacephalon, Guzzlord, Marshadow, Zeraora, Zacian, Zamazenta, Eternatus, Regidrago, Regieleki, Kubfu, Urshifu, Calyrex, Zarude, Wo-Chien, Chien-Pao, Ting-Lu, Chi-Yu, Great Tusk, Scream Tail, Brute Bonnet, Flutter Mane, Sandy Shocks, Slither Wing, Roaring Moon, Iron Treads, Iron hands, Iron Bundle, Iron Jugulis, Iron Thorns, Iron Valiant, Koraidon, Miraidon, Gouging Fire, Walking Wake, Raging Bolt, Iron Crown, Iron Leaves, Iron Boulder, Terapagos and Pecharunt.

These are only the ones I can remember off the top of my head.

I know I'm missing at least three.

[old jay]

Aren't sub-legends legal?

[stone trellis]

"Name every legendary (regular and restricted), mythical, Ultra Beast and paradox Pokemon right now."

[old jay]

Oh my bad I cant read

[stone trellis]

The Discord user VS reading comprehension class MU is like Koraidon VS Ice Rider at Worlds 2024.

[old jay]

Iron Moth i think

[stone trellis]

Oh yeah, that one.

[old jay]

Aka less cool Slither Wing

[stone trellis]

Iron Moth beat the shit out of shiny Wo-Chien, so I love it.

It did NOT care about Snarl.

[chrome knot]

@bold geode idk why but I got the random want to play mons

[old jay]

Good poiny honestly

[chrome knot]

so I decided to gain 200 elo today lol

kommo o might jus be her

[stone trellis]

Anyway, time to get back to Master Ball and use a team I actually enjoy in Reg J.

The only thing I'm not sure about is Landorus' Tera Type.

Or his EVs in general.

[chrome knot]

im sorry but why are all the colours and names so intrusive that its legit impossible to see a positive stat w/ bad eyes

[red willow]

So if I wait till roughly 4 am to jam gc Ill prolly que into JPN and AU players right?

Is the meta roughly the same there?

[chrome knot]

not at all

[stone trellis]

HO everywhere?

Nah, Japanese players are definitely above using HO.

What EVs do I use for Landorus?

Trick Room's on the team, so I can't go too fast.

[bold geode]

Cool lol

[chrome knot]

thanks :3

why'd you ghost ping the first time 😭

[stone trellis]

It was an accidental reply from me.

My phone's six years old and it's decided to make my life as difficult as possible without just giving up on me.

[red willow]

What differences should I expect then?

[bold geode]

What

[rustic mountain]

[forest arrow]

Tree

I hit 1500

[cyan smelt]

Hype

[forest arrow]

Yeah it feels good, I’m definitely playing better this time around, I remember having an awful time Reg H 1

4-1 in the GC atm

[cyan smelt]

I was doing well in reg h 1 with mdb's team until I wasn't

[forest arrow]

I’m being evil and using Mausape

https://pokepast.es/37f585c09b64e7ca

[cyan smelt]

After gc I'm gonna use water shuriken ape with icicle spear as an additional way to proc rage fist

[forest arrow]

Recently won VR I was using something similar but with Magmar and A9 over Maus and Rilla, it feels really solid tho

[cyan smelt]

Looks like a really good team

[rustic mountain]

pog

[cyan smelt]

I think I'm gonna do a couple of gc battles, it's my first one so I'm pretty nervous

[forest arrow]

I definitely feel you on that it’s my 3rd or 4th and I still get nervous lol

No need to worry tho, just breathe and play mons

[cyan smelt]

Just need to use it as a learning experience

[forest arrow]

yeah fs that’s what I’m doing, I usually play better on SD but I did pretty okay tonight I think

[cyan smelt]

I think I'm more comfortable on cart than showdown tbh

[forest arrow]

But I have to go to bed so I’ll pick up the other 10 after work tomorrow

[cyan smelt]

I can vibe with the music on cart

[forest arrow]

I’m the opposite lol

I guess SD is more comfortable cause I’ve used it to practice so much

[cyan smelt]

I get way more stressed on showdown

[waxen dock]

im 3-1 cuz the first battle i probbably lost to a crit

but 3-1 isnt that bad

[forest arrow]

Alright gn gang, good luck in yalls GC runs

[rustic mountain]

idk if im happy or annoyed i cant participate in yet another gc

[waxen dock]

why?

no online?

[cyan smelt]

Won my first game

[rustic mountain]

wedding this weekend

im not gna rush 15 games in the span of like 10 hours

[waxen dock]

nice

[rustic mountain]

i guess

[cyan smelt]

RL is more important

[rustic mountain]

yep

[waxen dock]

so dun to l,ose cuz i make dumb plays

[cyan smelt]

I faced a psyspam team first up

Destroyed it, I love dragonite

[waxen dock]

oh wait i can still win this

[rustic mountain]

dnites cool

[waxen dock]

does sylveon have tr?

[cyan smelt]

No

[waxen dock]

ok

i win this

im 4-1 now

[cyan smelt]

Ok maybe I should play another game

[rustic mountain]

gl

[waxen dock]

im 1551.142 now

top 48 overall

[rustic mountain]

keep it up

🫡

[waxen dock]

dozo mirror match are so funny

my opponent got a crit that did like 30 damage

[cyan smelt]

Lost to rain

Meowstic prankster rain dance primarina

[waxen dock]

lol

[cyan smelt]

I suck against rain

[waxen dock]

and i got a bad crit for me

[rustic mountain]

ew ur running dozo

[waxen dock]

yes there could be a bad crit

[waxen dock]

i dont think there is a problem with this since half the format runs dnite

and i got a good crit

[rustic mountain]

nah dozo is unbased

[waxen dock]

but i also run pawmot and glimmora

which the other dozo users dont run

now im top 32

[cyan smelt]

Yes won my 3rd game

Damn I lost again

I suck at this game

[waxen dock]

queing for 7th battle

and my opponent is a very low rating 100 below me and have trash mons

i win this

and i miss a 90% move and my opponenty hit ohko move

the 30% moves

[cyan smelt]

I finally beat a rain team

3-2

[waxen dock]

im 6-1

[waxen dock]

in masters or seniors?

and im 1579.637

[cyan smelt]

Masters

[finite vine]

What Reg is Season 34? Is it Reg I or Reg J?

[waxen dock]

so its harder for you

[waxen dock]

what is season 34?

[cyan smelt]

Yep

[waxen dock]

reg J

[finite vine]

When I open ranked battles in Pokemon SV it says season 34

[finite vine]

So it’s the one that allows you to use mythical Pokémon?

[exotic grotto]

Keep going! 3-2 is amazing!

[cyan smelt]

I lost to rain again

This is hard

I lost to dachsbun crap

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/toothless-dancing-meme-gif-toothless-nightfury-lightfury-nightfury-and-lightfury-dancing-meme-gif-7125086307255076021

[cyan smelt]

I hate the gc

[short quiver]

arent you using the team myself and paul made

[cyan smelt]

Yes

[short quiver]

ah no wonder the team sucks

i was not cooking was i 😔

[cyan smelt]

Now I'm losing to farigiraf with protect

[waxen dock]

arre you in the gc?

[short quiver]

no but my team lives on without me

[waxen dock]

what is the team?

[cyan smelt]

I'm sick of this gc

[waxen dock]

why what is your team?

if you want i can send you my team for the october gc

[cyan smelt]

Torkoal typhlosion kingambit dnite whims ursa bm

Sick of losing

[waxen dock]

the ursa bm feels a little out of place

idk why

[cyan smelt]

I don't need your help

[waxen dock]

ok

[cyan smelt]

I suck so much and the team sucks

[waxen dock]

i think you should stop playing for a bit and return in a hour or more

then you will probably do better

[cyan smelt]

Nah the team is garbage

[waxen dock]

maybe

[cyan smelt]

Now I'm losing to leech seed exeggcutor

This is hell

Ice beam primarina who runs thst

I am terrible at this game

[waxen dock]

i almost lost the excutor team

lucky that i have taunt on talonflame

[cyan smelt]

This team blows

[next dust]

There has been nothing but expanding force spam this entire tournament for me

Four users all running expanding force wth is going on

[waxen dock]

just use rilla or incin

they have hard times against them

[next dust]

I am but its still leaving me with two mons off the rip

This is just insanity how do people have fun like this?

[waxen dock]

whats your team?

[cyan smelt]

Ok I won one

[next dust]

Incin amoonguss smeargle garchomp gardevoir talonflame

[cyan smelt]

I lost again

This team is hot garbage

[next dust]

Ten games im at 50/50 i win against normal teams i lose against the absolutely unhinged ones

[cyan smelt]

I'm worse than 50/50, I absolutely suck

[next dust]

Smeargle is absolutely carrying me

Topsy turvy spore ruination protect focus sash smeargle is the ONLY reason im clutching these

[cyan smelt]

Now I lost to leech seed torterra

This is horribly unfun

[waxen dock]

Im lucky am still in seniors

Otherwise i will lose a lot

[cyan smelt]

I lost again

This team is horrible

I'm never playing gc again

I lost again

Fuck that unfun bullshit

[bold geode]

You genuinely need to learn how to pace yourself cuz you're playing solely off of tilt, which will never let you play well or improve

[cyan smelt]

it'll be the same result if i take a break or not, i'm getting my ass kicked and the team is not good

[bold geode]

Yeah but still

All I see here is mad tilt and yet why are we still queueing

That right there is also a big reason why you're losing

[cyan smelt]

ok tomorrow when i start to feel tilted i'll take some time off

[knotty mirage]

If i want to use scarf chi yu is it necessary to makes it timid maybe to try outspeed something like scarfshifu or modest is just fine ?

[exotic grotto]

How did you perform?

[real prairie]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2435579218

What a game to start the day lol

[waxen dock]

Quring for 8th gc match

Queing

Im top 32

[stone trellis]

Nice.

[cyan smelt]

i'm hot garbage

[stone trellis]

I might try to play one game.

[stone trellis]

Listen.

If you focus on the fact you suck, you lose the opportunity to actually improve.

[cyan smelt]

i'm going nowhere fast

[stone trellis]

You have nearly two whole months to prepare for Brisbane, correct?

[cyan smelt]

i'm screwed

[stone trellis]

No, you're not.

If you don't take the time to focus on improving your own play and your team instead of beating yourself down over every bad play, then you will be screwed.

[cyan smelt]

i can't improve, i'm going backwards

[stone trellis]

What does that even mean?

[cyan smelt]

I keep losing

And I can't stop it

I need to figure out something to use for Brisbane

Or maybe I should just quit

[stone trellis]

It's up to you.

In game 3 and I just cooked a man alive.

I led Dnite and Whimsicott against their UBM and Sneasler.

[cyan smelt]

I feel like I always lead wrong

[stone trellis]

I tried to be a smart guy and Encore Sneasler into Fake Out, but they Dire Clawed Whimsicott and Dnite OHKO'd with Scale Shot.

Then turn 2, the big guy got on the field.

Tera Fire Typhlosion OHKO'd UBM with a crit on Eruption and Dragonite finished off the opposing Dragonite with Ice Spinner.

Oh shit, it's a rain team.

Time to fry them.

[cyan smelt]

I feel like if I lead typhlosion they always lead dragonite or gambit

[stone trellis]

Sinistcha, regular Ursaluna, Pelipper, Arch, Dnite and some other guy I forgot.

[cyan smelt]

Basc?

Maybe I'll just use archaludon rain like everyone

[stone trellis]

Maybe.

[cyan smelt]

Maybe I should go back to psyspam

[stone trellis]

Tera Fire Typhlosion genuinely just kills everybody.

I swear, this thing at 93 HP did 95% to UBM with Tera Fire Eruption.

HOW DOES HE DO IT?

[cyan smelt]

I wish I could position like you

[stone trellis]

I'm not even that good at positioning.

[waxen dock]

I lost ciz of meteor beam miss

Without the miss i would have won

And this loss so impacted my run

I wish they would make it 95%

Iy made me lose a game

[stone trellis]

Garchomp VS Incineroar and Ttar.

Perfection.

[waxen dock]

Just earthquaqe

At least you didnt lose to 90% move

[stone trellis]

THEY FAKED OUT WHIMS YES

HOW THE HELL DID THEY BOTH LIVE AT ONE HP BRO

[cyan smelt]

Are you using garchomp still

[stone trellis]

Yes.

[waxen dock]

At least i won the game after

[cyan smelt]

I'm thinking garchomp is better than ursa bm

[stone trellis]

Oh, it is.

The man did 98% to Incineroar with EQ, that shit is natural talent.

And that motherfucker was Impish too.

I kind of want to see the calcs on Choice Band.

I think Incineroar and Ttar were calced to live EQ.

Natural bulk does not go that far.

Politoed, Arch, Sneasler, Gholdengo, Amoonguss and Smeargle.

[cyan smelt]

I'll experiment with putting garchomp back on the squad, idt av blursa is the play

[stone trellis]

Yeah.

[cyan smelt]

It's nice punishing sneasler for clicking cc

[stone trellis]

HOW DID ERUPTION DO 82% TO TERA WATER DENGO

Is he the GOAT?

[real prairie]

Im getting fucked off with tera dark sneasler with throat chop

[cyan smelt]

Me too

[cyan smelt]

I'm tired of sneasler

[waxen dock]

End of day 1

Do you guys think its good to finish day 1 like this?

[stone trellis]

#7 is pretty great, as far as I'm aware.

[waxen dock]

I battled #1 at some point and lost

[stone trellis]

Who was it?

[waxen dock]

And i lost another battle cuz of meteor beam miss

And i lost my 1st battle

[stone trellis]

I've played 7 games and won 5 so far.

[waxen dock]

So im 12-3

Bit i think i should have been 13-2

[cyan smelt]

I don't remember how many games I lost but it was too many

[stone trellis]

Currently at #87, hope to finish the day off within top 64.

I know I should've registered in Masters, but Seniors is way funnier.

People are just using anything.

[waxen dock]

You can see in home

[waxen dock]

Paul

Dont register in seniors

If you arent senior

[stone trellis]

I know it was a mistake, but I registered back on Sunday.

I was in a rush.

[waxen dock]

Like this

[waxen dock]

They are the same