competitive_discussion

[craggy dagger]

the latter

[rustic mountain]

maybe, id hate to see xern w/ tera

[craggy dagger]

mega victreebel…

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 71: Victreebel

Types

Grass/Poison

Abilities

Chlorophyll, Gluttony (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/105/65/100/70/70

Total

490

Sableye version 4.28.4

[rustic mountain]

they wouldnt have megas coded into sv

[craggy dagger]

nvm that things defensive stats are lower than i thought

[rustic mountain]

victreebel is gna be ass

even w/ a mega

u need the mon to exist outside of mega atleast somewhat

[craggy dagger]

i feel like it’d be one of those
really niche picks like hydrapple from reg H wave 1

[rustic mountain]

could be

depends on the added stat distribution and ability

[craggy dagger]

yeah

say, was kanga really any good outside its mega

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 115: Kangaskhan

Type

Normal

Abilities

Early Bird, Scrappy, Inner Focus (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

105/95/80/40/80/90

Total

490

Other Formes

Kangaskhan-Mega

Sableye version 4.28.4

[craggy dagger]

that’s some….
really underwhelming stats…

[rustic mountain]

yea prolly not

i didnt play vgc then only watched some vids idt it was on the field much w/o mega evolving from wat i did see

[craggy dagger]

but like
i don’t think victreebel would have a broken transformation like kanga tho

cuz kanga at least has
parental bond going for it when it megas

[rustic mountain]

nd it had power up punch pre nerf

also parental bond was nerfed

[craggy dagger]

yeah…

[rustic mountain]

i want mega dnite to be good

[stone trellis]

The worst thing they could do is make it base 70 Speed.

Or base 90, that one might actually be a death sentence.

[craggy dagger]

i’m honestly kinda curious about the abilities though
some potential ones i’ve seen/heard/think makes sense in my own mind are
dnite: aerialate, gale wings + new move from lza, keeps multiscale, adaptability (?)
victree: super sweet syrup, corrosion, keeps chlorophyll, possible new ability that acts like sweet scent in both battle and outside of battle.
hawlucha: scrappy, good as gold (as a joke ofc but it would be funny), fur coat or a defensive ability that either reduces physical moves, battle armor…

[rustic mountain]

other then good as gold which u already noted was a huge stretch i see all those being plausible

dnite shouldve been dragon/fairy 😎

[craggy dagger]

scrappy flying press hawlucha would be scary though

dual type move that hits ghosts types-
or uh

does it normally hit ghosts?

[tiny karma]

Move: Flying Press

This move combines Flying in its type effectiveness against the target. Damage doubles and no accuracy check is done if the target has used Minimize while active.

Type

Fighting

Category

Physical

Power

100

Accuracy

95

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Gravity

Cannot be selected under Gravity.

Sableye version 4.28.4

[craggy dagger]

OH
it’s
95% accurate-

[lofty tartan]

Ayo wtf you doing up so late

I just wanna say that I think mega Dnite with Aerialate would be an absolute menace

Stab boosted Aerialate Espeeds with an extra 100bst on top of pseudo. Neat.

https://tenor.com/view/community-ken-jeong-ben-chang-ill-allow-it-allowed-gif-4468552

[shadow wind]

I doubt they'd recycle Mence like that

[short quiver]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2434207838

i officially suck

[short quiver]

i hate to say it but meow just isnt working

😭

my cat is failing me

[lofty tartan]

Wdym? Koraidon is basically Groudon with a fresh coat of paint and a bitching spoiler

[short quiver]

and a move thats only single target

[wooden steeple]

but doesn't miss

[short quiver]

true dat

[random canopy]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9unratedrandombattle-2432853738?p2

probably my proudest moment as a random battler

[lofty tartan]

Ehh precipice blades is often single target too, just with reduced damage from doubles

Sometimes it's no targets xD

[next stump]

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X · Sep 3, 2025, 9:00 AM

I think we got a couple australians here

[cyan smelt]

Yeah but I can't find a good team, either for the gc or bo3

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/dwight-schrute-manager-the-office-gif-8267273

Finally sorted all the stuff at work, got promoted, and can finally focus on getting ready for Pitt

[real prairie]

252+ Atk Never-Melt Ice Weavile Ice Shard vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Whimsicott: 102-120 (75.5 - 88.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

that idea out the window

[cyan smelt]

What about mamoswine

[real prairie]

its slower, so Whims still gets TW up

[cyan smelt]

Ok why does inteleon get ice shard

[real prairie]

lol

if we need to add some flawed logic, spies kill people with Ice shards before 🤣

but Pokemon ≠ Logic

this is getting silly... 252+ Atk Tera Bug Haxorus First Impression vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Whimsicott: 106-126 (78.5 - 93.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[cyan smelt]

How about bullet punch

Or if you really like gambling, quick claw quick draw galarian slowbro

[real prairie]

same issue as ice shard, no one fast enough

[cyan smelt]

Houndstone in sand shadow sneak

[next stump]

hell yeah 🙂

[real prairie]

Kinda makes the whole swift swim Ludicolo thing hard 🤣

[cyan smelt]

There's nothing that's faster than whimsicott

[real prairie]

Nope, sad times.

[cyan smelt]

Well technically talonflame is faster but idk if it can ohko with dual wingbeat

[solid frigate]

time to build the team

[cyan smelt]

Is av blursa any good

[left bobcat]

SCHYEAH

[forest arrow]

I think so, you can EV it’s to live a jolly CC from Sneasler or even a Life Orb Bloodmoon from Ursa

[real prairie]

Other than Mr Cheese string , who's a good counter to Sneasler?

I struggle with Indeedee M + Sneasler Unburden combo as it's faster than me

[cyan smelt]

Have you tried overqwil

[left bobcat]

Have you tried- actually nvm I can’t think of any

[real prairie]

Interesting

[cyan smelt]

Not sure what it's doing back to sneasler but at least it could take care of the indeedee

And close combat is neutral

[real prairie]

Maybe I just go Neut Gas + Scarf cheese string

[tiny karma]

Weezing's moveset:

Physical Moves

Assurance, Bide, Body Slam, Double Hit, Explosion, Facade, Frustration, Giga Impact, Gunk Shot, Gyro Ball, Headbutt, Natural Gift, Payback, Rage, Return, Rollout, Secret Power, Self-Destruct, Tackle, Take Down, Thief

Special Moves

Acid Spray, Belch, Clear Smog, Dark Pulse, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Heat Wave, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Incinerate, Infestation, Psybeam, Psywave, Round, Shadow Ball, Shock Wave, Sludge, Sludge Bomb, Sludge Wave, Smog, Snore, Spit Up, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Uproar, Venoshock, Zap Cannon

Status Moves

Attract, Captivate, Confide, Corrosive Gas, Curse, Destiny Bond, Double Team, Endure, Flash, Grudge, Haze, Memento, Mimic, Pain Split, Poison Gas, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Scary Face, Screech, Sleep Talk, Smokescreen, Spite, Stockpile, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swallow, Taunt, Torment, Toxic, Toxic Spikes, Venom Drench, Will-O-Wisp

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Weezing.

Sableye version 4.28.4

[real prairie]

Yeah, Haze weezing + scarf Ghould

[cyan smelt]

Just as long as you don't run slaking

[real prairie]

Nah lol

Might run ability shield Ludicolo haha

[cyan smelt]

Ability shield incin

[waxen dock]

mr cheese string is very good

with talon

why not him?

[real prairie]

Him and Arch feels like too much steel lol

[cyan smelt]

I've seen both

[real prairie]

Yeah think that might be the way

Ability shield Ludicolo plus Weezing would make sure it's the fastest thing on the field too

If Unburden is already active, does Neut Gas turn it off?

[cyan smelt]

It can't activate without psychic terrain up

But it should if the psychic seed has been consumed

[real prairie]

I mean in different match ups, lead with Politoed + Ludi and swap into Weezing

[cyan smelt]

It doesn't deactivate unburden if the item has been consumed

Here's an idea, what about misty surge galarian weezing

Nah that's a bad idea

[real prairie]

That's about as long as my ideas last too

[real prairie]

Really? Would assume it would

[bold geode]

I fell asleep after LOL

[cyan smelt]

Since there's no item left to consume it doesn't deactivate the unburden speed boost i think

[waxen dock]

then it would be broken

+2 speed for the entire game

[real prairie]

That is what happens lol if it's already active it isn't disabled by NG

[red willow]

Would a team of Arceus CSR Ogre Hearth Bolt Urshifu R and Chien Pao be considered hyper offense?

[real prairie]

I think its ready for GC! https://pokepast.es/58ac955d1160a191

[real prairie]

Depends on the EV spread and style of play, but it leans towarsd Hyper Offensive fs

[red willow]

I mean I prolly still run spiky shield and follow me on ogre IMO but outside of that I think the strategy is just click big damage button lol

[solid frigate]

the team isn't even legal lmao

3 restricteds and 7 mon lol

[real prairie]

Ogre Hearth is one mon lol

[solid frigate]

Ogre = Kyogre
Oger = Ogerpon

unless they mess up the typo

but normally you just use call Ogerpon by the mask cuz nobody uses Teal mask that often

[real prairie]

firepon

[red willow]

Sorry yeah firepon

[solid frigate]

then yes the team is fine just (Idk if you have Eweb bolt)

[red willow]

Is eweb spicy on bolt rn or somethin?

I just have a standard set of protect draco thunderclap and thunderbolt rn

Ive never used pao with urshifu r before but does it do roughly the same dmg as it would in rain or is it more or less?

[real prairie]

Turns out, if you start the turn with Nut Gas with Ghouldengo... it can be Spore'd that turn

even when you switch out

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2434408496

[polar canyon]

I think it's more for av sets

[red willow]

Ah naw Im just on booster energy

[polar canyon]

Then you probably want offense + protect

Don't trust me tho I'm not a bolt player

[red willow]

Im trying to lean more into offense with this team build like Im hoping leading with pao plus a hard hitter is enough to snowball a lead

Like realistically what is the best play vs a scarfed up sword of ruin boosted surging strikes t1 lol

Ig switch to rocky helmet amoonguss

[polar canyon]

Usually when I fight arceus chien teams they don't lead arceus

But probably because I've been running a team with 2 ghosts

You're the one running arceus right

[red willow]

For sure Im not typically planning on leading it myself either

[polar canyon]

Is it the shadow claw tera ghost

[red willow]

Testing tera normal w silk scarf rn for real big espeeds but I am on claw for coverage

[polar canyon]

That's cool

One thing I hate fighting is screens arceus

That's just not very fun to be up against

[red willow]

Prankster grimm?

[polar canyon]

Always arceus grimm mirai pao

[red willow]

Eeww I never thought about not running bolt and using mirai instead of csr

Could be gross

[polar canyon]

It has the option of pivoting out with a nuke while screens get up with volt switch

[red willow]

Yeah seems annoying to play against lol

[polar canyon]

And reg j is closed team sheet so you're kinda left guessing if it's scarf or specs miraidon

I kinda wanna build a new team with haze for reg j

Maybe that could be cool for dealing with arceus and super boosted magearna

[red willow]

For sure also randomly hoses caly boosts

[polar canyon]

Just letting magearna get huge boosts is already a misplay but it's nice having a backup

First 2 turns against magearna teams feel like walking on eggshells

The snowball machine

[red willow]

Magearna is steel psychic right?

Or is it fairy

[polar canyon]

Steel fairy aka best defensive dual type there is

[red willow]

Ooooohhhhh

That plus caly i might be spicy

[polar canyon]

Yeah that's pretty common

Magearna hard tr

Usually leading magearna + scarf ape or magearna + smeargle

You probably know the magearna ape tech

[red willow]

I guess I just hope to land a clean cc on magearna? Lol hopefully from a fully invested shifu its enough to ohko

[polar canyon]

Prolly not

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 801: Magearna

Types

Steel/Fairy

Abilities

Soul-Heart

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/95/115/130/115/65

Total

600

Other Formes

Magearna-Original

Sableye version 4.28.4

[red willow]

Lawd it bulky

[polar canyon]

Expect them to target whatever you have that's can stop magearna from using trick room with final gambit

If that happens they get tr up and a free +2 boost in a 3v3

At least it's predictable

[red willow]

Yeah thats no buen buen lol

Encore would prolly be decent into tr setup teams Id assume but idk what would be good for that lol

[polar canyon]

My lead into it is brute bonnet + csr, protect csr while bonnet spores mag

[red willow]

Also I dont want to compromise too much offensive pressure

[polar canyon]

Bonnet has more hp than ape so it lives the final gambit

If it locks in shadow claw on protect csr I can just tera and now ape is useless

Worst case scenario is magearna just attacks and the double up of final gambit + dazzling gleam kills bonnet

But there's also the risk of them just leading cir + redirection while I do that

Magearna + mirai is also a thing so I don't lead with bonnet when I see miraidon

[stone trellis]

I genuinely don't like Annihilape + Magearna, to be honest.

That's extremely lame.

And it isn't even the only way to use it.

[scenic oriole]

Okay, so turns out you can redirect a decorate. How terrifying for them

[waxen dock]

you didnt know?

[bold geode]

Yup
Ogerpon redirects both Spore and Decorate, pretty good tool for Smeargle

[bold geode]

Tbf I didn't know for a while either

[solid frigate]

i think i only know this cuz i was gonna redirect a spore from smeargle with my goggles indeedee

[primal saddle]

anyone available to check out a team i cooked up ? it's working on showdown in a BO1 format, reg H

[solid frigate]

just post it here

[primal saddle]

https://pokepast.es/0cd38eb64840d543

[shadow wind]

Gotta love a good up pair

I'm also now realizing that A9 is just annoying to play against because of freezes

And why does heat wave not thaw?

[solid frigate]

yeah,this team works

[foggy lodge]

Holy cooking

I like the core of the first 3

[stone trellis]

People see the vision with Scarf Modest! Fucking finally!

[primal saddle]

you guys like it ? im thining about taking it to the challenge

[stone trellis]

Do it.

[primal saddle]

😄

[shadow wind]

I don't see the vision with Gweezing

Your mons like their abilities

[primal saddle]

it can be awkward, but im learning how to use it. Weezing def doesnt get brought every game

[stone trellis]

I'd use Scarf Typhlosion sun, but I fucked up the Tera types and I can't change my team since I'll be back home on Friday.

[primal saddle]

its great vs certain things

[shadow wind]

Yeah why not like support torkoal or something?

[primal saddle]

because im a weezing simp

i guess torkoal makes too much sense, but i thought weezing good vs archaludon, dondozo, and others

amoongus can spore gholdengo

[foggy lodge]

I think Blursa is awkward with Weezing

Because its basically impossible to have both at the same time on the field

[shadow wind]

That ain't blursa broski

That's a normal ursa

[stone trellis]

That's arguably worse.

[shadow wind]

I agree

[primal saddle]

i could swap torkoal for ursa

but i think my offensivie coverage too thin, maybe i need to scrap team

[stone trellis]

I have a cool team that looks similar.

[primal saddle]

u should link it :

[wooden steeple]

I would do toedscruel instead of amoongus personally

also make sure to optimize your ursalunas hp for flame orb properly

[shadow wind]

Smartest Indeedee Sneasler lead

[chrome knot]

im clicking fighting blast here

[shadow wind]

Does that even kill Ttar?

252 SpA Tera Fighting Indeedee Tera Blast (80 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Sand: 108-132 (61.3 - 75%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Oh nah

[chrome knot]

for how bulky it is

thas a good trade lmfao

[next stump]

i think their play makes some sense

they’re probably assuming earthquake + tera flying

and if that is what you did, they’d be in a pretty decent spot

it is hilarious how hard it flopped though

[red willow]

Am I crazy for running amoonguss over sinistchea on arch rain? Just dont want 2x ghost rlly

[chrome knot]

it makes sense but aggressive lead makes me want ttar super dead

[shadow wind]

Oh yeah it makes total sense I’ve just been playing mons long enough to realize when someone is going to make the most obvious play

Now imagine if they read that and cc’ed the Ttar

[real prairie]

This a bug or this the intended action? Confused the fuck out of me

[forest arrow]

It’s intended, if Gas was on the field before the switch then it’s still active same goes for if weezing wasn’t on the field and you switch it in

[real prairie]

Strange as weather and terrain abilities kick in straight away

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 763: Tsareena

Type

Grass

Abilities

Leaf Guard, Queenly Majesty, Sweet Veil (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

72/120/98/50/98/72

Total

510

Sableye version 4.28.4

Pokémon No. 762: Steenee

Type

Grass

Abilities

Leaf Guard, Oblivious, Sweet Veil (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

52/40/48/40/48/62

Total

290

Sableye version 4.28.4

[short quiver]

it gains a LOT if stats WOW

290 to 510 is quite a jump

[next dust]

now if only it gained a second typing

great attack ok bulk ok speed just solid grass

[short quiver]

🫠

missed opportunity to be grass fairy ngl

[shadow wind]

Would that make it that much better though?

I don’t think a secondary type would bring it even close to Rillaboom

[short quiver]

not particularly but its not terrible either

one of the best comp mons ever is grass fairy

ahem whimsicott

[shadow wind]

Yeah but not for the reasons that people would use Tsareena

[short quiver]

tsareenas niche would be a farigiraf replacement

[shadow wind]

Whimsicott isn’t only good because of its typing

I think Farigiraf is going to be better 95% of the time even if Tsareena was grass fairy

Grass fairy offensively is pretty terrible

[tiny karma]

Tsareena's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Bounce, Bullet Seed, Covet, Double Slap, Endeavor, Facade, Feint, Flail, Fling, Frustration, Giga Impact, Grassy Glide, High Jump Kick, Knock Off, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Mega Kick, Payback, Petal Blizzard, Play Rough, Power Whip, Punishment, Rapid Spin, Razor Leaf, Return, Seed Bomb, Solar Blade, Stomp, Take Down, Trailblaze, Triple Axel, Trop Kick, U-turn, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Dazzling Gleam, Draining Kiss, Energy Ball, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Leaf Storm, Magical Leaf, Round, Snore, Solar Beam, Swift, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Acupressure, Aromatherapy, Aromatic Mist, Attract, Captivate, Celebrate, Charm, Confide, Double Team, Endure, Grass Whistle, Grassy Terrain, Helping Hand, Laser Focus, Light Screen, Nature Power, Play Nice, Protect, Reflect, Rest, Safeguard, Sleep Talk, Splash, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Sweet Scent, Synthesis, Taunt, Teeter Dance, Toxic, Worry Seed

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Tsareena.

Sableye version 4.28.4

[next dust]

what it would do is make it more offensive pressure

[short quiver]

being grass fairy or being used instead of farigiraf

[shadow wind]

It has 72 speed bro, the offensive pressure is not there

[next dust]

it stops priority moves its offensive pressure IS there

[shadow wind]

What are we talking about

[next dust]

Tsareena

[shadow wind]

💀

Obviously we’re talking about Tsareena

[short quiver]

queenly majesty does the same thing as armor tail

[shadow wind]

But stopping prio moves is not applying pressure offensively

[next dust]

how is it not?

in what world is denying a prio move against you not assisting in applying pressure

[tiny karma]

Move: Grass Whistle

Causes the target to fall asleep.

Type

Grass

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

55

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Authentic

Bypasses substitute.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Reflectable

Affected by Magic Coat and Magic Bounce.

Sound

Does not affect Soundproof.

Sableye version 4.28.4

[short quiver]

trash

[shadow wind]

It’s applying pressure but quite passively

Actually it’s barely applying pressure

[next dust]

you arent looking at it properly

[shadow wind]

💀

[next dust]

lets say they bring out rillaboom

[tiny karma]

Move: Punishment

Power is equal to 60+(X*20), where X is the target's total stat stage changes that are greater than 0, but not more than 200 power.

Type

Dark

Category

Physical

Power

0

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Sableye version 4.28.4

[next dust]

not only do you benefit from grassy terrain but youve made grassy glide useless against one of your mons

[shadow wind]

So where’s the pressure

[short quiver]

so its power trip/stored power

[shadow wind]

They can freely click wood hammer

Applying pressure is having the Rillaboom with fake out available

That allows you to gain space in the battle

[next dust]

except like you, most people wont know prio moves dont work on tsareena

that gives you a literal free turn against it.

[short quiver]

imagine using harambe though 🙄

[pliant moat]

could someone let me know if this team looks good?

https://pokepast.es/41af667aa673cbef

[next dust]

not to mention its won a tournament for this EXACT reason

on top of that cybertron i believe used to run a tsareena team that was pretty popular for applying that kind of pressure for that exact reason

[shadow wind]

You could probably go nasty plot over draining kiss on CSR

[pliant moat]

oh ok

[next dust]

denying a move in any sense that doesnt cost you the turn and forces people to play differently against you IS offensive pressure

[pliant moat]

do EVs,moves, items and tera types look good

also does that team work well or should I switch out some mons for something else?

[shadow wind]

You could technically go Tera dark on Whims to block taunts but fire works just fine

Fire might even be better considering the team

[pliant moat]

okay

thank you

[shadow wind]

No problem

[pliant moat]

would you mind checking my reg h team too

[shadow wind]

Sure

[next dust]

consider urshifu rapid over single as well to cover more of your weaknesses

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 981: Farigiraf

Types

Normal/Psychic

Abilities

Cud Chew, Armor Tail, Sap Sipper (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

120/90/70/110/70/60

Total

520

Sableye version 4.28.4

[pliant moat]

https://pokepast.es/05e3c2bd9f3be8a6

[shadow wind]

On a sun team?

Are you being for real?

[next dust]

yep. if you are bringing him it would mean that sun isnt going to help as much anyways

then your wincon isnt sun its ursh csr

[shadow wind]

Right except when Koraidon hits so much harder than Urshifu

And is just a better win con

[pliant moat]

should I replace urshifu with a differnt mon?

[shadow wind]

Lots of teams with Koraidon don’t need Urshifu because of the overlapping fighting types

[pliant moat]

what else would you recomend?

[shadow wind]

If you were to replace it it would probably be something like bolt?

[next dust]

all im saying is he doesnt fit sun format and can be there as a backup if you wanted to bring him to cover your spread

[shadow wind]

So you’re just playing with 5 mons at that point

[shadow wind]

I’d say bolt but that might be a bit special heavy

[pliant moat]

wb hisuian lilligant wioth chlorophyl?

[shadow wind]

If you want to keep the dark typing you could go Incin

[pliant moat]

would it be fine doubling up on fire/dark types

[shadow wind]

If you aren’t giving it sash it’s pretty much never worth it

Even with sash it’s pretty bad

[pliant moat]

damn okay

[shadow wind]

It’s never an amazing thing to double up on types but it’s not that bad if those mons are Chi yu and Incin

But yeah I’d say maybe bolt as a first option

An AV bolt probably works

[pliant moat]

ok

https://pokepast.es/05e3c2bd9f3be8a6

could you check out my reg H team too

[tiny karma]

Move: Grassy Glide

If the current terrain is Grassy Terrain and the user is grounded, this move has its priority increased by 1.

Type

Grass

Category

Physical

Power

55

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

20 (32)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Sableye version 4.28.4

[short quiver]

ts sucks wtf

[shadow wind]

Mence is an interesting choice and that’s a lot of Tera grasses

[shadow wind]

It used to be 70

Nothing wrong with a bunch of tera grass mons but the team looks a bit stiff into sun

[pliant moat]

ok what would you recomend I change around

[shadow wind]

I wouldn’t say you need a kingambit and could probably go for something like a Gholdengo

Tera water Dengo can be really annoying

[pliant moat]

okay

and what about salamence?

[shadow wind]

Could just be a Dnite if I’m being honest

[pliant moat]

ok

also ive noticed I have alot of trouble against trick room with my reg J team

do you think I should get a pokemon that can counter trick room in that last slot or is it not worth it

[shadow wind]

I’m assuming the trickroom being CIR and Magearna?

[pliant moat]

yes lol

[shadow wind]

Yeah that combo does seem very annoying

[pliant moat]

taunt on whimsicott works sometimes but psychic terrain shuts that down quick

cause sometimes they bring indeedee

[shadow wind]

Could just try to explode it with Chi yu and Koraidon

Koraidon should live a Dgleam + Glacial after tera’ing

This is where specs chi yu becomes a liability though because more protects would help

[pliant moat]

okay so basically just go full offensive mode when I verse trick room?

[rustic mountain]

closing in on 1600s
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2434673161-tvn0c5hi09dghpsnsxamrlph076f3k1pw

[pliant moat]

ok so do you think I should run incin instead of urshifu then maybe switch chi yu with a different mon then? or should I keep it how it is

[forest arrow]

Dang bro good stuff

[shadow wind]

Nah cause what was that mixed Dozo

1500 ! Yippee !

[solid frigate]

man that 133 guy is relatable

[shadow wind]

Real

Man my GXE is not fire

[solid frigate]

that user name is basically me but with my GC team

[shadow wind]

I just played against a weird Blursa set

Tera electric

CM lefties

They also had a wack Farig set now looking at it

[near crag]

Been playing this team a while, and it's good, but the sneasler matchup is really bleak. From the seeds sets outspeeding everything, to every single move it gets screwing me over, to even throat chop being a huge problem https://pokepast.es/81eb549289c4a199 Do you have any suggestions?

[shadow wind]

Can you explain why you chose the Ape set?

[near crag]

Helping hand is great with toxtricity, since it has an immunity to boomburst, and the other moves are just for having consistent stab. I have no real reason not to use shadow claw instead of rage fist except that it feels better

[shadow wind]

How often are you clicking helping hand boomburst?

[near crag]

One in every like three matches, it does some insane damage

Maybe even two

[shadow wind]

I don't know if Ursaluna really fits the vibe of the team

Even at 252 speed he's really slow

And you can only click EQ next to like 2 party members

Could replace him with something that better deals with Sneasler, like Corviknight or something

And I would suggest replacing outrage on Pult for u turn

[near crag]

What other mons also could help against it? Maybe scarf indeedee, since I have tw

[shadow wind]

Scarf Indeedee could be ok but it's pretty high commitment for 1 mon

[short quiver]

rain versus rain the perfect battle

[short quiver]

people use outrage at all?

all ive seen is dragon claw breaking swipe and scaleshot

[lofty tartan]

Yeah on the right mon, Outrage is basically a nuke button

[short quiver]

such as 😃

i wanna outrage stuff

[lofty tartan]

Dragapult

It's used Outrage successfully in the past

Dnite has used Outrage but I think Dice set is better right now

[shadow wind]

Banded Dnite usually use outrage

[short quiver]

ik its not an outrage mon but is dragalge any good

[shadow wind]

No

[lofty tartan]

Nope.

[short quiver]

DAMN YOU TPCI

WHY DO ALL MY FAVORITE MONS HAVE TO SUCK COMPETITIVELY

[lofty tartan]

I tried to make Dragalge work in a really early reg like A or B or something. It was bad

[short quiver]

DAMN YOU

[shadow wind]

Get better favourites I guess

My favourite pokemon is urshifu rapid strike 🤓

[short quiver]

that defeats the whole point of them being favorites

[lofty tartan]

[shadow wind]

A lot of my favourites do come from using them in competitive

[short quiver]

i think my favorite competitively viable mons are whimsicott ogerpon and basculegion

https://tenor.com/view/ogerpon-my-beloved-teal-mask-gif-12058198746172826119

[lofty tartan]

I like cool looking pokes. A lot of them happen to be good competitively so I'm never at a shortage

[shadow wind]

Like I love Volcarona

[lofty tartan]

Volc is based

[short quiver]

i like dragalge, Meowscarada, Umbreon, Absol, Ninetales, Ogerpon Whimsicott, Tsareena, Basculegion and yes i really like archaludon

[cyan smelt]

Quiver dance tera fairy volcarona can ko archaludon

[short quiver]

a total of 5 of those mons are any good competitively

[shadow wind]

I'm actually using that on my current team

Although I might have the worst evs of all time

Volcarona @ Leftovers
Ability: Flame Body
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 156 Def / 36 SpA / 52 SpD / 12 Spe
Modest Nature

• Heat Wave
• Tera Blast
• Quiver Dance
• Protect

[lofty tartan]

It's unfortunate how many of my faves are good in Reg H because it makes it really tough to settle on a team.

Suffering from success I guess

[shadow wind]

What in the Reg G set is this

[forest arrow]

Once i figured out i couldnt use blastoise, I eventually grew to loves things like incin amoongus lol

[short quiver]

it sucks for that umbreon ISNT good in reg H cuz its better against higher scaled opponents

[lofty tartan]

Eh. Debatable.

[cyan smelt]

Is that why archaludon teams are also running gholdengo to deal with tera fairy volcarona

[forest arrow]

It has a niche into the horses but thats more reg G

[short quiver]

wdym by dat

[lofty tartan]

Farigiraf is specifically good in a high powered meta with a lot of priority moves. Umbreon is just sorta okay.

[foggy lodge]

Umbreon is just a MU mon

[short quiver]

😔

[foggy lodge]

Into balance horses teams

[forest arrow]

Reg I the fighting type res kind of make it harder for Umbreon to be used

[short quiver]

so its use is defined by whether or not the opponent has a horse

😒

[lofty tartan]

Basically. And if they have a solid counter to Umbreon, which are plentiful

[short quiver]

like literally anything that learns uturn can be annoying

[shadow wind]

Same goes for Gastrodon

[short quiver]

and non prankster taunts

[shadow wind]

And I love Gastrodon

[short quiver]

kyogre counter?

raichu is a miraidon counter (kinda)

[foggy lodge]

until it gets 2hko'd by dazzling

[lofty tartan]

Anything that has to use Tera 100% of the time or die to Draco Meteor isn't a real counter

[foggy lodge]

The only real Miraidon "counter" would be Iron Treads in theory

But it dies to a draco meteor anyways xd

[lofty tartan]

[foggy lodge]

So its just a check

[short quiver]

😒

[lofty tartan]

Any time your answer to something is Tera every time, it's just not a real answer, because it's a one-time resource with variable matchup use.

[short quiver]

i want to make a team of all mons that i like but id only have one restricted 😒

[forest arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/hadeel928-يوسف-العماري-موسى-الخنيزي-gif-1019745061637303674

[short quiver]

i could use like Kyogre to make my other mons work

but ideally my only restricted would be Zamazenta

[left bobcat]

No way you’re forgetting the most crucial thing

[short quiver]

what

[short quiver]

what 😒

[left bobcat]

Oh I don’t know that’s something for you to find 🐳

[short quiver]

im very confuzzled

can you just tell me my brain is fried from work

[left bobcat]

I actually don’t know I was just trying to sound wise or some shit

[short quiver]

😭

kyogre zama basculegion archaludon gholdengho

and who would go 6th

ogerpon

😃

[left bobcat]

Hmmm that sounds pretty good

[short quiver]

Wouldn’t having three steel tapes be an issue

[left bobcat]

Uhh sure but you at least got 2 water types

[short quiver]

and i was thinking Ogerpon Rock

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 1000: Gholdengo

Types

Steel/Ghost

Abilities

Good as Gold

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

87/60/95/133/91/84

Total

550

Sableye version 4.28.4

Pokémon No. 1018: Archaludon

Types

Steel/Dragon

Abilities

Stamina, Sturdy, Stalwart (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/105/130/125/65/85

Total

600

Sableye version 4.28.4

[short quiver]

WOAH

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 248: Tyranitar

Types

Rock/Dark

Abilities

Sand Stream, Unnerve (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/134/110/95/100/61

Total

600

Other Formes

Tyranitar-Mega

Sableye version 4.28.4

[shadow wind]

Goat stats 🙏

[short quiver]

Archaludon has pseuedolegendary stats

[shadow wind]

Yes

[short quiver]

gholdengo has 550 and Archaludon has psuedolegendary stats without a psudolegendary baby form

i dont like kyogre or gholdengo but they should make the rest of the team work

[foggy lodge]

What is dengo doin there

Bro thinks he is part of the team

[short quiver]

is he not supposed to be ??

ive always seen a dengo on rain teams

[foggy lodge]

On reg H

[short quiver]

in general but aight

[foggy lodge]

There's a difference when the rain setter is pelipper and when is kyogre

Dengo is just really bad in double restricteds from this gen

[short quiver]

kyogre zama ogerpon rock archaludon basculegion and blank

[red willow]

Isnt urshifu r just more consitent bascu in reg j?

[short quiver]

but feesh

[red willow]

Ig fighting instead of ghost

But scarf it up and click surging strikes in rain and things die

[next stump]

https://x.com/us_vgc/status/1963395907720036690?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddfszOAZ6w

United States Pokemon Association (@US_VGC)

Hey everyone, we decided to make a public document for region discords so everyone can find a community in their state!

RT's Appreciated, if there is any missing from the list, please DM us so we can add it!

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X · Sep 4, 2025, 12:17 AM

[shadow wind]

Didn't they do that last year?

[short quiver]

stuff dies to life orb wave crash anyways

[left bobcat]

Yes

[short quiver]

bur FEESH

[shadow wind]

Urshifu is a fish if you squint hard enough

[red willow]

Lmao

[left bobcat]

Yeah water = fish so it must be true then

After all what water type doesn’t resemble a fish

[short quiver]

i can name quite a few

[red willow]

A fish that is also a bear would be terrifying tbh

[left bobcat]

Shhhhhh

[short quiver]

can i use like Murkrow in the last slot

[red willow]

Idk Ive really only seen crow in reg h

Id prolly run tornadus since you are rain anyway

[short quiver]

he da biggest birb he da biggest birb

[short quiver]

ew

[red willow]

?

I mean 100 percent accurate bleakwind/hurricane and priority tw is p cool

[short quiver]

gross

[red willow]

My bad for the suggestion ig lol

[short quiver]

torn just looks stupid

i don’t like it

[red willow]

You are literally playing with a sentient skyskraper dragon

[short quiver]

you mean a bridge right

[left bobcat]

Skyscraper? Where?

[short quiver]

i call archaludon Pipebomb

[short quiver]

i dont see one anywhere

i see a bridge though

[red willow]

Okay london bridge

[short quiver]

is falling down

murkrow or whimsicott 🫠 so just whimsicott. da birb doesnt exist outside reg h

shut it rotom

MEGA BANETTE HAS PRANKSTER? oh i will SO be using that in champions

[left bobcat]

Well it won’t be pranking for long

[short quiver]

the humble follow me

165 attack is crazy 😭

so ehat we think of Kyogre Zama Arch Basculegion Whimsicott and Rockpon

[primal saddle]

https://pokepast.es/2299d63a803202dc (Utility Weezing) vs. https://pokepast.es/bd05a5bd95b2c94c offense weezing

[short quiver]

acid spray could be good

keyword is could

[next stump]

what’s weezing on the team for?

nothing really benefits from the ability

and a couple are hurt by it

[short quiver]

like porygon and ursaluna

[primal saddle]

weezing is on the team for dondozo, gholdengo and others

im trying to make it work, i may scrap it

i could easily put a torkoal in its place

[next stump]

how does weezing deal with gholdengo? dondozo I can see even if it’s a little awkward

[short quiver]

and again it hurts your ursaluna REALLY bad

and also doesnt help your Porygon

[primal saddle]

the idea is amoonguss can spore gholdengo

[short quiver]

um

does neutralizing gas shut off good as gold?

[primal saddle]

yeah

[cyan smelt]

Weezing and amoonguss is not a lot of offensive pressure

[next stump]

i see the idea you’re going for but that’s wayyyyyy too passive to ever be consistent

[dense latch]

i think in this format you first want weezing to enable your team rather than disabling your opponents'

[next stump]

go for toedscruel if you want fast spore for ghold

[primal saddle]

fair enough i can always scrap the team im not committed, just trying to think of something fun to do thats different

[dense latch]

and if it's hurting your team it's kinda pointless

[next stump]

at the end of the day if it’s fun for you, then rock it. I just think it’ll end up as one of those ideas that on paper looks like it will work, but in practice they’ll just click fake out + nasty plot and you lose

[primal saddle]

i think since toedscruel learns rage powder ill give it a try instead of amoonguss, im curious to see how it works

im below 1400 at the moment on showdown, so it isnt particularly good lol

[foggy lodge]

P2 with Weezing can work

I would just go trace instead of download

Cuz like you either disable their abilities or copy them

[primal saddle]

im not having much trouble playing around the P2 Weezing thing, but thats honestly a really interesting idea.

i wonder if its too gimmicky but im gonna test it

[foggy lodge]

Trace Porygon2 is crazy good and I think it's really underrated

It works for those teams where you don't really need P2 to be doing a lot of damage

[red willow]

P2 and buzz give me hope that there are underexplored eviolite mons lol

[cyan smelt]

Can good as gold be traced

[red willow]

Give tentacruel or toxapex a 3rd form and theyd be fun eviolite mons lol

[next stump]

duskull is a cool one i’ve seen a few times in online tournaments

[red willow]

Clops?

Ive seen that but never skull lol

[short quiver]

is there any point in running raichu in my rain team most kyogre run tera grass right

mirai is scary to my feesh

[left bobcat]

I mean raichus only role in a Kyogre team is lightning rod and fake out

[lofty umbra]

Does anyone have the rental team for magearna + dawn wings necrozma?

[short quiver]

and maybe a nuzzle

[left bobcat]

Maybe

[lofty umbra]

Or kyogre

[short quiver]

okay can you tell me if i could/should slot it in on Kyogre Zama Rockpon Arch Basculegion Whimsicott

[foggy lodge]

Use roaring moon

[short quiver]

what?

[foggy lodge]

wdym what

[short quiver]

were you talking to me? 😭

[left bobcat]

Yes

But why whims?

[short quiver]

uh okay, put roaring moon where, and what about raichu

[short quiver]

cuz torn looks stupid 😒

[left bobcat]

Either torn or roaring moon is the move

[short quiver]

roaring moon INSTEAD of cottonball?

uh okay

what about raichu (x3)

[left bobcat]

Idk

[short quiver]

😒

i genuinely forgot roaring moon can even learn tailwind

[next stump]

https://x.com/upchickenvgc/status/1958517193391394884?s=46&t=WmXEnVa3rTSw0P9A0n6S3Q

reg h-chicken and the road to vegas (@upchickenvgc)

I got 10th place in a 102 player Reg H tour with Duskull! Really happy with my performance, and happy to show that people are sleeping on skull/clops in Reg H. Such incredible support for a hard trick room team, lmk if anyone wants the paste 🔥

X · Aug 21, 2025, 1:11 PM

it was new to me too hahaha

but levitate TR setter

[knotty mirage]

Damn most of reg J match pretty much just devolve into trying to makes dark void have 100% accuracy

[short quiver]

CHAT CHAT

SILKSONG TOMORROW

[shadow wind]

YEAHHHH

[short quiver]

meanwhile my reg J team is just a Reg I team

[shadow wind]

It's like 12 hours away

🙏

[short quiver]

uh no

4pm est

[shadow wind]

Thought it was coming out 10 am EST

This is heartbreaking

[short quiver]

SILKSONG TOMORROW AFTER 6 YEARS

https://tenor.com/view/cr1tikal-penguinz0-meme-woo-yeah-baby-gif-19316511

[shadow wind]

Chat am I being lied to

Hmm

[short quiver]

what the fuck is EDT

[shadow wind]

No clue but I think it's EST

[short quiver]

my timezone is called EST

[shadow wind]

I think it is just EST

[short quiver]

steam servers gonna crash tomorrow

[shadow wind]

On god

I will be buying it frame 1

I've been waiting for like 6 years

[short quiver]

im buying it

i cant wait to sweat the pc version

[shadow wind]

I love Hollow Knight

Real

I played HK on switch before going over to pc

Best decision I've ever made

I 100%'d it on steam in 2022

[short quiver]

i just built my pc in june

[shadow wind]

Oh sick

I don't remember how long I've had mine

[short quiver]

so i gotta buy both hollow knight games on steam and play both

[shadow wind]

Definitely should

[short quiver]

i will

cant wait to experience both games on the pc

[shadow wind]

I really have like no life

I love this game so much

I've only not done a single thing

And I probably will never do P5 all bindings

[short quiver]

😃

[shadow wind]

I even speedran the game for a little bit

[short quiver]

absolutely not

game too good to speedrun

[shadow wind]

There I am

[short quiver]

game too good to speedrun 😒

[shadow wind]

I already did everything in the game

[short quiver]

oh wow hi neighbor

you live in canada 😃

[shadow wind]

And honestly speedrunning made it better

Sure do

But judging by how you said you were EST I'm assuming you're East?

[short quiver]

i live in Michigan youre basically my neighbor

[shadow wind]

Ohh

[short quiver]

canadas like right there

[shadow wind]

I'm north western Canada so we're further neighbours but close enough

[next stump]

EDT is what you call Eastern Time during Daylight Savings

EST is what you call it during Standard time, AKA not daylight savings

[shadow wind]

Makes sense

[short quiver]

😒

[next stump]

so rn we’re in EDT for the next couple months

[shadow wind]

So it comes out in 12 hours !!!

[next stump]

99.9% of people just use EST/CST/PST always

[shadow wind]

Half a day away !!!

[jade dust]

Everyone agrees that Terapagos will be the worst restricted once tera disappears right? Not like it’s good rn lmao

Worse than Cosmog

[shadow wind]

I mean it pretty much stops being a restricted

[next stump]

I wonder if they’ll ever make it legal during a time where tera is banned

[shadow wind]

It loses the stats that make it good

[jade dust]

And gets nothing in return

[next stump]

They might just wait to have it around for tera formats

[shadow wind]

Yuppers

[jade dust]

It’s not good rn cuz Zama and Urshifu

Who are faster and hit it first super effective

[shadow wind]

Well

They don't hit it for super effective

[jade dust]

It sucks against Caly ice too

Caly ice can take like 4 +1 tera starstorms

Caly ice trades positively with terapagos even outside of trick room

[shadow wind]

That's why you pair Terapagos with a wisper to force a tera

It's why those CSR Terapagos teams were somewhat common

[short quiver]

ive never heard of EDT before

[forest arrow]

My biggest op this GC

https://tenor.com/view/whimsicott-smile-gif-19923061

[short quiver]

or they could change it to a mega. it gains exactly 100 stat points 🤷‍♂️

[forest arrow]

https://pokepast.es/4b73eaa5c7e66ef6
what do i lead into whims?

Dnite Ghold?

[short quiver]

COTTONBALLLLLL

i love whimsicott its adorable

[forest arrow]

I feel like I got the team down but anytime I see cotton ball I just get shut down

[jade dust]

Taunt and follow me support

I have taunt on iron bundle to stop wisp

[short quiver]

or a mon that learns both holds out Ogerpon its dangerous out there take this with you

[jade dust]

Lol I do have fire Ogerpon in my team

[short quiver]

she conveniently learns both follow me AND taunt

https://tenor.com/view/ogerpon-my-beloved-teal-mask-gif-12058198746172826119

[jade dust]

Also to stop calm mind

[short quiver]

and she learns throat chop to stop noisy pokemon

[jade dust]

Without a boost, super effective tera startstorm is like a 3HKO

[short quiver]

doesnt ogerpon also get knock off

[shadow wind]

Firepon is so good for support

[tiny karma]

Ogerpon's moveset:

Physical Moves

Brick Break, Bullet Seed, Counter, Double Kick, Facade, False Swipe, Fling, Giga Impact, Grassy Glide, Horn Leech, Ivy Cudgel, Knock Off, Lash Out, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Play Rough, Power Whip, Quick Attack, Retaliate, Reversal, Rock Tomb, Seed Bomb, Slam, Solar Blade, Stomping Tantrum, Superpower, Take Down, Throat Chop, Trailblaze, U-turn, Vine Whip, Wood Hammer, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Energy Ball, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Leaf Storm, Magical Leaf, Solar Beam, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Charm, Encore, Endure, Focus Energy, Follow Me, Grassy Terrain, Growth, Helping Hand, Leech Seed, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Spikes, Spiky Shield, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swords Dance, Synthesis, Taunt

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Ogerpon.

Sableye version 4.28.4

[shadow wind]

Can't get wisped or spored

[short quiver]

she learns knock off. ill be damned.

[shadow wind]

And spikes !

[short quiver]

yeah

[jade dust]

The problem is you only have 4 moves

[shadow wind]

Goated in singles and doubles

[jade dust]

Needs spiky shield too

[short quiver]

she also learns sunny day rain dance and sandstorm

[shadow wind]

Makes sense

[short quiver]

she can boost herself in all 4 of her forms

[shadow wind]

Goat

[short quiver]

what if you used sun team firepon with ivy cudgel and solar blade

https://tenor.com/view/excalibur-gif-26991730

[shadow wind]

Solar blade is so mid

[short quiver]

ogerpon:

[short quiver]

solar blade is excalibur though

the animation is literally excalibur

[tiny karma]

Move: Solar Blade

This attack charges on the first turn and executes on the second. Power is halved if the weather is Hail, Primordial Sea, Rain Dance, or Sandstorm and the user is not holding Utility Umbrella. If the user is holding a Power Herb or the weather is Desolate Land or Sunny Day, the move completes in one turn. If the user is holding Utility Umbrella and the weather is Desolate Land or Sunny Day, the move still requires a turn to charge.

Type

Grass

Category

Physical

Power

125

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Charge

Has a charging turn.

Contact

Makes contact.

Slicing

Boosted by Sharpness.

Sableye version 4.28.4

[shadow wind]

So when do we get physical electro shot for the sun

And give it to Groudon

[short quiver]

what if we get physical electro shot for sandstorm instead

[shadow wind]

When do we get hail chip back

[short quiver]

never

[shadow wind]

😔

I miss it

[short quiver]

so do i

[shadow wind]

I love just not caring about focus sashes

[short quiver]

wasn’t there an electric move in gen 7 that had the same animation as powerwhip

i recall seeing Xurkitree use it

[shadow wind]

Not that I remember

[short quiver]

am i suffering a mandela effect

[shadow wind]

Also Xurkitree is wild

[short quiver]

i love xurkitree its so silly

[shadow wind]

173 spatk with Tail glow

[short quiver]

i mean its tail does glow to be fair

[shadow wind]

True !

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani-shiny/xurkitree.gif

[shadow wind]

Reg H is so weird to me

[short quiver]

why

[shadow wind]

Maybe it's me but I never feel confident on the ladder

Like Reg G or I was easy to me

[short quiver]

i loved reg h in cart ladder

i had so much fun

[shadow wind]

I could make a team and then go 10-0 no biggie

But Reg H I feel like I might just go 5-5

[short quiver]

reg h allows some WILD strats

[shadow wind]

I mean I play Bo3 so it's like I'm never surprised

But the whole vibe is off

[short quiver]

hidden power was removed in SWSH right

[shadow wind]

I believe so yes

[short quiver]

unfortunate

[shadow wind]

I have such terrible Stockholm syndrome with Reg H

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/i-like-train-die-potato-gif-22212845

[shadow wind]

Reg H1 I played like 3000 games

[short quiver]

thats a lot

[shadow wind]

Dude I know

And I didn't like Reg H one bit

Still don't really

W/L/T

On one account 💀

[short quiver]

how do you tie in vgc

[shadow wind]

Total

Not tie

[short quiver]

oh lmao

[shadow wind]

Yeah my bad

Definitely made it look like tie

I miss Reg I so much

[short quiver]

lowkey might go replay UM

[shadow wind]

The ultra games are so fire

[short quiver]

i wish i had pokemon bank so i could transfer my gen 7 mons to gen 8 and 9

[shadow wind]

Do a hardcore nuzlocke

Oh that's right, I forgot you couldn't get it anymore

I'm lucky enough to have gotten bank and transfer before the servers went down

[short quiver]

😔

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/ha-no-hazbin-hotel-radio-demon-gif-15596084

actually

[shadow wind]

Could be fun

[short quiver]

sure why not

[shadow wind]

Just don't transfer the mons if you don't want to

[short quiver]

bug only 👨‍🦯

[shadow wind]

Make a dead box

Nuzlockes are fun

[short quiver]

gotta find my ds charger

ts is dead

[shadow wind]

Dude ds chargers are so cooked

My 3ds is on 1 HP

Permanently

[short quiver]

why

[shadow wind]

I played on that thing so much

The battery is fading away

I could probably fix it if I'm being real

[short quiver]

me who has both a 3ds and a 2ds

[shadow wind]

I have a dsxl as well

I use that to play Black

[short quiver]

gang i play black on my phone

[shadow wind]

😭

[short quiver]

what

[shadow wind]

Phone mons is wild

[short quiver]

i hate it

but it works

found my charger

[shadow wind]

Fire

[short quiver]

my roommate had it

he was playing my ultra sun

(i have both ultra games)

i really wanna buy black

i specifically want Furret

[shadow wind]

It's so awesome

I love gen 5 mons

[short quiver]

i love it cuz i get to use furret and reshiram in the same game

[shadow wind]

Excadrill !!!

Volcarona !!

Man Gen 5 has lots of my favourite mons

[short quiver]

excadrill no volcarona yes

zebstrika

[shadow wind]

What's wrong with the drill?

[short quiver]

meh

[shadow wind]

He's so cool

[short quiver]

hes cool sure i just dont like him

im not a ground guy

unless your name is palossand

[shadow wind]

I love ground types

Goated type

[short quiver]

i like electric types

[shadow wind]

Electric types are cool

[forest arrow]

Steel or fighting for me

[short quiver]

valid

[shadow wind]

But yeah Ground types are definitely my favourite

[short quiver]

i also like grass

[shadow wind]

Groudon is just so cool

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 640: Virizion

Types

Grass/Fighting

Abilities

Justified

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

91/90/72/90/129/108

Total

580

Sableye version 4.28.4

Pokémon No. 908: Meowscarada

Types

Grass/Dark

Abilities

Overgrow, Protean (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

76/110/70/81/70/123

Total

530

Sableye version 4.28.4

[shadow wind]

That mon was busted in Full Potential

https://pokepast.es/f83a7f821f7806bf

[short quiver]

top 3 types electric grass psychic

[shadow wind]

Sometimes I look at this team and remember the fun times

[forest arrow]

Blastoise spotted

[short quiver]

full bulk verizion is crazy

[shadow wind]

That's the stat it uses for damage calcs

[short quiver]

sideeye

[shadow wind]

That Virizion missed so many moves

[short quiver]

whatchu mean by dat

[shadow wind]

So instead of using atk or spatk for damage calcs, it used the highest stat

[short quiver]

😃

what if that stat was speed

[shadow wind]

Yup

Not HP though

[short quiver]

AYO?

so how good is regieleki

[shadow wind]

Banned

[short quiver]

understandable

[shadow wind]

It was actually a really cool meta game

I finished top 10

Yeah here it is

[short quiver]

i dont use showdown much

i like cart ladder so much better

i like watching the actual animations

[shadow wind]

I haven't touched cart ladder in so long

I like how easy showdown feels

Like teambuilding without grinding is nice

[short quiver]

i suck at ev spreads

[shadow wind]

Dude you should see some of my teams ev spreads

Max/max/min on all 6

[short quiver]

weewoo

[shadow wind]

https://pokepast.es/e7afea96460119bb

This is my current team and 4/6 are max/max/min

[short quiver]

sand 😃

[shadow wind]

I love sand

[lean ridge]

anyone know the odds of hitting someone at +6 evasiveness

i might get 1v4ed by an alolan muk cuz i cant hit him

[short quiver]

“if its not 100% its 50%”

[lean ridge]

ive double attacked for 5 turns and havent hit him yet

[shadow wind]

I believe it's a 1/3

[short quiver]

yeah thats how alolan grimer works

[lean ridge]

hopefully i hit him soon then 😭

hes been toxic stalling and just dodging everything

[shadow wind]

Terrible

[cyan smelt]

This is why I like ursaluna bm

[short quiver]

yeah thats how alolan grimer works

[shadow wind]

It did not need that

[lean ridge]

yea i decided to try the strategy of knocking out everything and dealing with it last but i havent been enjoying this 😭

[short quiver]

your opponent is probably having fun

[lean ridge]

thankfully i have regenerator amoongus so worst case i timer stall him but this is unreal 😭

[short quiver]

lmaoooo

[lean ridge]

im at 14 attempts no hits now

[short quiver]

did they not also have a Costar Flamigo?

if not they trolled there own strat

[lean ridge]

yea they didnt bring it here tho

[short quiver]

they trolled themself 😨

[lean ridge]

OMG I LANDED A HIT

[short quiver]

did it die?

[lean ridge]

it survived at 1 hp.

and now its healing

[short quiver]

lmaooooooooo

was it Smeargle+Alolan Grimer

[lean ridge]

Yea to start

[short quiver]

yep 🫠

[lean ridge]

Thankfully it wasn’t able to get moody onto the muk

[short quiver]

oh that would have been a nightmare

[lean ridge]

I forced the Smeargle to switch turn 1 then knocked out miraidon so it has hadron engine 😭

[short quiver]

um

interesting

[lean ridge]

There’s no electric terrain thankfully 🙏

[shadow wind]

Miraidon?

[short quiver]

isnt grimer a physical attacker anyways

[shadow wind]

Nah I thought it was Reg H

[lean ridge]

Nah this is reg J on cart ladder

[short quiver]

so did i 😭

i also thought it was reg J

miraidon smeargle muk is crazy

[lean ridge]

It also had arceus and I think it was trying to psych up the +6 evasiveness but I koed it on a switch in 😭

[short quiver]

oh GOD

imagine arceus had lived

[rustic mountain]

moments b4 disaster i dropped like 200 points after that lmao had to climb back to 1500s

[lean ridge]

Thankfully amoongus has bailed me out with regenerator so I’m gonna win on timer

I ran out of Astral barrages so I have no offense anymore

[short quiver]

astral barrage into a dark type must be rough anyways

alolan muk is poison dark right

[lean ridge]

I’ve set up 3 nasty plots so it is almost an ohko I think but regardless I never managed to hit any 😭

[shadow wind]

Tree no !

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/caine-gooseworx-glitch-tadc-caine-the-amazing-digital-circus-caine-gif-4686478007589408630

[forest arrow]

felt that in my bones

[shadow wind]

But hey 1500s is still chill

[forest arrow]

Tree do i just brute force whims teams with mausghold/ mausape depending on team?
https://pokepast.es/35a752b9bd84a172

[lean ridge]

I’ve finally escaped 🥹🙏

[short quiver]

good job gang on your win

[shadow wind]

Whoa new paste icons

When did this happen

[short quiver]

what?

[shadow wind]

On Pokepaste

There's new pngs

For the Gen 9 mons

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/furret-pokemon-cute-gif-17963577

[rustic mountain]

happens

[shadow wind]

It really does

[short quiver]

is it 10 am yet

[shadow wind]

Where are you now?

[shadow wind]

10 and a half more hours 😔

[rustic mountain]

1510 iirc

[shadow wind]

Is that T500?

[short quiver]

😭

bro i was on instagram and saw an art from another indie game that they posted

[rustic mountain]

just barely lmao

[short quiver]

its so funny but so sad

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

Dang you got more elo than I do on Bo3 😔

I'm at 1508

[rustic mountain]

bo3 ladder is a bit different

[short quiver]

@shadow wind

[shadow wind]

Oh yeah I've seen that a couple of games are delaying for the month

Cause Silk Song is taking over

[short quiver]

i do NOT blame them

[shadow wind]

Bo1 is a BIT different

[short quiver]

silksong is the GTA of indie games

[shadow wind]

I can't do Bo1 dog

Bo1 is actually the death of me

I like knowing if my opponents Blursa is AV or Lorb

[rustic mountain]

yea exactly

[shadow wind]

Dang

SeaWolfMikes might be the goat

Bro is topping both Reg H ladders

Oh he took a tumble in Bo3

He was #1 on both

[cyan smelt]

I wish I could be even half as good

[forest arrow]

Hes very involved in the community, I recognize the name

[shadow wind]

I've only ever played against him

[forest arrow]

Always in streams and was also in the dedicated reg I server

[dense latch]

i feel you so bad 😭 i was at 1590 then dropped to 1420

[shadow wind]

That's cool

[dense latch]

lost all confidence on my team and gameplans just before a local

[shadow wind]

Dude confidence is like 75% of mons

And Erik you go to locals?

That's fire

[cyan smelt]

I need a team for Brisbane regional

[dense latch]

this sunday's my first that's why i really want it to go well

[shadow wind]

Wish you luck in it

[dense latch]

thanks :)

[shadow wind]

I do wish I had locals where I live

Stuck on this terrible ladder 😔

[knotty mirage]

Why the hell magearna and arceus can use gravity

[shadow wind]

Wait Erik do you play more Bo1 or Bo3 then?

[dense latch]

more bo3 recently

[cyan smelt]

What's your team unless you're keeping it under wraps

[dense latch]

https://pokepast.es/5ad377897a3736ed nothing new this is what mdb used at vr

[cyan smelt]

Looks solid

[forest arrow]

I like that team I played it a bit myself before I landed on DUG

[rustic mountain]

still ofc focusing on improving but its basically just a waiting game for champions at this point for me