competitive_discussion

[stone trellis]

Nah.

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-noooo-nooo-noo-no-gif-17139315586294057944

[stone trellis]

You'll have to breed for them.

[short quiver]

but i cant get a special mark that way 🫠

[stone trellis]

What marks are you looking for?

[short quiver]

theres one called The Early Riser

[stone trellis]

Sucks to be you, I guess.

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/ahoklollmao-noooo-nooo-noo-no-gif-17139315586294057944

what marks can i obtain later. Good Friend, Paldean Champion, the partner ribbon, the Gourmet

[lean ridge]

gourmet, item finder, effort

[short quiver]

hm

[waxen dock]

No but you can get them from home

[short quiver]

yeah but do they have a special mark 🫠

actually i think they do

its just shiny locked instead

[stone trellis]

I did it.

My team is complete and I've registered for the Global Challenge.

I don't know if being in the Seniors division is better or worse than being in Masters.

[solid frigate]

It’s better to actually go for your Division based on your age or Birth year

Especially if you are doing irl tournaments

[stone trellis]

Oh fuck, I forgot to change my team's Tera Types.

Kill me.

I was rushing so much that I forgot to change the most important part of my team.

[stone trellis]

I was born in 2009, so I'm still in Seniors, right?

[dense latch]

you’re in masters this upcoming season

seniors is 2010-2013

[stone trellis]

Oh.

Didn't know.

Oh well, I can't compete with this team anyway.

Every Pokemon other than Garchomp and Typhlosion has a shit Tera Type.

Tera Water Garchomp is less than ideal, but I can work with it.

And Tera Fire Torkoal might work.

[solid frigate]

tera fire torkoal is the best tera lmao

[stone trellis]

It's not Specs, so it isn't ideal.

[foggy lodge]

Its still the ideal xd

Unless you want the ground inmunity for eq lines

Or grass for Amoonguss inmunity

[feral oar]

Is this game fun in comp

[dense latch]

i'd say so yeah but it's not for everyone

[feral oar]

How come

[next stump]

it's a thinking game rather than mechanics or anything

so if you enjoy games like that, it's very fun

[solid frigate]

think of it like Chess

[feral oar]

That seems fun

[solid frigate]

except it has more mechanics

[next stump]

give it a try, it’s very addicting

[solid frigate]

and brain damage inducing /j

[feral oar]

Yeah I’m thinking of buying it

How much is it

[dense latch]

you can play on pokemon showdown if you only want to play competitive it's a free battle sim website

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UJQsZrHgL14&t=1290s&ab_channel=TheDelybird

scarlet/violet are 60 bucks

[feral oar]

Yeah I’ve seen that website

I’m just vs trying to learn a. Game and play comp

[short quiver]

showdown is a very good place to start learning honestly

[next stump]

wolfey dropped some great tournament advice in his latest video

[short quiver]

the one a couple days ago? about EUIC?

[next stump]

it's all about enjoying the process, tying yourself to a numerical result is going to lead to disappointment and burnot

burnout*

ye the EUIC video

[short quiver]

when do you think we’ll get a video about worlds 2025

[dense latch]

early 2026 most likely

[short quiver]

wolfey please dont make me wait 4 whole months

(im kidding ik it takes a lot of editing and battle simulating)

[short quiver]

yeah i watched the whole thing

[next stump]

VGC is so brutal compared to any other competitive game

Because everything is tied into these sporadic IRL tournaments

[short quiver]

i really like wolfeys content, sure he talks to you like a child but like, its a very easy way to try and teach something, he tries to also make his videos educational for people like me just starting the competitive scene

[next stump]

yeah he's nailed the niche he wanted to fill

educational yet entertaining

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-fran-フラン-nod-nodded-gif-4555652442381937962

its not comp but W overworld team?

ignore my iron valiant being dead 🫠

[foggy lodge]

Fs

Also its not like fighting games or some others where there's one person that wins most of the tournaments or stuff

[short quiver]

like smash bros? 😃

[feral oar]

Yeah it’s just a. Bit confusing

Can I play on pc?

[short quiver]

yes

its a website ofc you can

[short quiver]

what’s confusing we may be able to help you 😃

does anyone have an iron leaves i posted a request in trade and got no responses 🫠

i want a future verizion very badly

[next stump]

first locals of the season starting soon, lets goooooooooooooo

[short quiver]

is there a mon that learns both electric terrain and sunny day

zapdos apparently learns both

omg ampharos

[dense latch]

im so hyped

[left bobcat]

ChatGPT says raichu ampharos electivire and rotom

[whole ibex]

Any TTar sample teams?

[short quiver]

dual bike restricteds sucks right?

[left bobcat]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ehe

[left bobcat]

Let’s ask ChatGPT

[dense latch]

https://youtu.be/gOYcAfKqhGs?si=guCvnur9UFXhLB7M check the sand section

[short quiver]

GET OUT 🗣️

[dense latch]

not horrible but not especially good either

[short quiver]

so it works it just takes skill i probably dont have 😃

[left bobcat]

I mean they share a weakness

[short quiver]

they share 3 weaknesses

dragon ice fairy

[left bobcat]

And if it comes down to Koraidon and miraidon with ice rider that’s just ggs

[short quiver]

🫠

so takes a level of skill i do not possess, makes sense

[left bobcat]

It’s doable but you’re better off choosing something else

[short quiver]

well theres no other easy way to set up both sun and electric terrain

groudon miraidon? 😭

idk that just sounds super copium to me

[left bobcat]

Torkoal-

[short quiver]

😒

oh yeah that thing exists too

[left bobcat]

Can’t thundurus learn sunny day?

[short quiver]

it can

so can zapdos

and jolteon if i wanna troll a bit

[left bobcat]

Yeah but thundurus has prankster

[short quiver]

[dense latch]

it's not great either but groudon miraidon has at least seen some play

[short quiver]

i wish people on home would just give me an iron leaves 🫠

[left bobcat]

Then there’s still the ice rider issue

[short quiver]

WILL THESE PEOPLE JUST TAKE MY SPECTRIER AND GIVE ME AN IRON LEAVES 😭

[dense latch]

what do you need iron leaves for

[short quiver]

i want it

it looks so cool 😃

robot verizion

and these people wont take my spectrier i put in the Home GTS

[rigid crane]

How long until I get to use my Arceus Strat?

im ready

[short quiver]

isnt it the 4th

[left bobcat]

It is? I thought it already started

[short quiver]

idk im employed lmao

[rigid crane]

same lol

[left bobcat]

Yeah I don’t keep up anymore I’m just to focused on work, school, and music sooooooo meh

[next stump]

it should be live now I think

[red willow]

So my reg j team needs 2 more mons so far got Arceus CSR Chien Pao and Bolt

Any ideas what would be decent?

[jade dust]

Gg

[short quiver]

why did you double trick room??

[jade dust]

It was my last turn of trick room

Double trick room resets the timer

[short quiver]

so you ended it and set it back up got it

them double protecting was game ending for them lmaoooo

[jade dust]

Yes, that only works if I have 2 trick room setters and I predict a double protect

Or if I have enough HP to take a hit

[dense latch]

such a satisfying play to pull off

[jade dust]

Yee ikr

It’s a big brain play

[short quiver]

them double protecting there literally lost them the game

[jade dust]

Yeah you should only double protect when they only have one mon in the field that learns trick room

[short quiver]

yes

[rustic mountain]

[dense latch]

honestly though it's a matter of how much you respect your opponent and just a guessing game at high level

testing for the league cup has been going alright

still can't decide between cloak and lefties volc

[shadow wind]

Is that my goat popping off?

Erik when is the 80 happening?

[dense latch]

never :(

not meant for me i always choke at the finish line

[shadow wind]

🥀

Nah, I think you got it

Maybe not this account

But eventually

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

If Maya got 79 with Groudon and I got 80 with Groudon, anyone can do it if you believe hard enough

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

Now realizing Maya went 25-2 and didn't hit 80

That sucks

And I went 17-0 and hit 80

Really shows that it's kinda ladder dependant

[jade dust]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2432732404-ie9ki6yab69vl0ixi8kku2vk42v8uthpw

Yeah Koraidon sucks against caly ice

You know what my Caly ice did?

Literally nothing

And it made me win

It’s fucking hilarious

[dense latch]

i'll make up for it by winning my local league cup

[shadow wind]

Perfect

[foggy lodge]

I hope you hit all your scale shots 5 times and 3 turn sleep everyone with dire claw

And you win all your sucker punch 50/50s

[dense latch]

that's the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me thank you

[foggy lodge]

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X · Aug 31, 2025, 3:17 AM

[dense latch]

also maxi the more i think about it the more appealing santiago regionals seems

[foggy lodge]

Pog

[dense latch]

it's relatively affordable

[foggy lodge]

I wish I could play it but my wallet is empty lol

• I just don't feel ready personally to play a major atp

The goal rn is play some locals

[dense latch]

yea same

[foggy lodge]

But if I can I will try to go as a spectator

And maybe we can see the whole group there

[dense latch]

it's probably gonna come down to how i feel by then

[foggy lodge]

But I hope it works out dude it would be so great to see my VGC people irl

[dense latch]

lima special event is a half an hour trip by car so i'm good there lmao

[foggy lodge]

Lmao

You could talk with Val and Fan to maybe practice for it

I know they will go

[dense latch]

i still need to lab a bit before my league cup just to tweak the team a bit

[bold geode]

@foggy lodge was there a paste of the JoeUX9 team out?

[foggy lodge]

I think I sent it here

https://pokepast.es/40df847902847443

[rustic mountain]

ur a paste of the joeux9 team

gottem

[bold geode]

How bout you paste deez nuts

https://tenor.com/view/mic-drop-obama-barack-gif-13411519

[rustic mountain]

nah that was a reach ur trying too hard

its ok

[bold geode]

[rustic mountain]

[bold geode]

Ok so the Torkoal does creep max IV Amoonguss

So basically
My Amoonguss is fine
Let's go I don't have to hunt for min speed

[atomic creek]

what's the meta in the latest vgc rn?

[rustic mountain]

kinda hard to say the in game ladder is different then the comp ruleset

[dense latch]

there was a reg i showdown tour before the format ends

im glad i don't have to deal with this anymore

[rustic mountain]

[rigid crane]

New Season is out

And it put me in Rank 9

[foggy lodge]

Oh shit I forgot

Dude all the people that don't play reg J will comeback to cart ladder when it ends and will be pokeball 4 lmao

[bold geode]

If it stays Reg J they'll never come back

[short quiver]

me who plans to actually play reg j 🫠

[real prairie]

I'm struggling LF to make a reg H team, feels impossible to make a team covering for everything

[cyan smelt]

me too

[real prairie]

need to lock in a team this week for GC too FML

[waxen dock]

Nah youre masters

[stone trellis]

Fuck.

Oh well.

[waxen dock]

top 100 and 1600

[waxen dock]

well you had 4 years to be in the senior division

[stone trellis]

I started playing in March.

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/seal-funny-seals-seal-funny-fun-animal-gif-17880262

[waxen dock]

there was gc in march and april and the other type in may

[waxen dock]

would i still get cp if i have online only for the furation of the gc?

[foggy lodge]

@torn parrot Ribombee team at the VR lol https://pokepast.es/fcb2a152b7bbaec8

[torn parrot]

Holy crap I was pinged

Nice team

Hope it wins

[wooden steeple]

if i want slightly bulkier sneasler, what's a nice speedtier?

[next stump]

I’d sacrifice some from your attack stat TBH, or run sash

or a seed

[dense latch]

Sneasler (M) @ White Herb
Ability: Unburden
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 172 HP / 92 Atk / 108 Def / 4 SpD / 132 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Close Combat
• Dire Claw
• Coaching
• Protect

this is what justin tang was using at toronto

[wooden steeple]

yea white herb is what I was thinking

feels much much more beneficial than sash

[dense latch]

you should only have white herb if something else needs sash more

[wooden steeple]

or if I actually want to proc my unburden?

[stone trellis]

Yeah, Sash just dies to Dnite Scale Shot anyway.

[cedar otter]

Damn snealser used by a lot

And I was thinking of using it as my main team when u have all the preps

[wooden steeple]

it peaked at like over 60% didn't it?

[cedar otter]

Probably when it was introduced in La and people saw the power cuz it’s like weavile

[cyan smelt]

can mamoswine work in reg h? i heard about zhe zhang using it in the vr tour but no idea what the team was

[dense latch]

he figured out how the regulation works at least

[dense latch]

https://pokepast.es/52cb71754a4c9e3a

[cyan smelt]

i was trying loaded dice mamoswine for a bit, but had the teammates all wrong

and the moves obviously

at least i did something right with mamoswine lol

[foggy lodge]

@ mods remove his comp helper role

[real prairie]

i was looking at Ice shard Mamoswine earlier to try counter Whims but it has same priority bracket

[foggy lodge]

Around yeah

Somehow it even surpassed Urshifu I think

[waxen dock]

does the gc give play! pokemon points?

[old jay]

I think so if you finish within a certain top percentage

[stone trellis]

The winner gets 75 Championship Points, I think.

[waxen dock]

play points

not cp

[stone trellis]

They're literally called "Championship Points" in the image.

[dense latch]

no mention of grand/global challenges

[dense latch]

there's both cp and play points

which is something i just learned lol

[waxen dock]

how did people already earned that much cp?

or is it just the cp between naic and laic

[next stump]

play points are only for IRL events

and they already have those points from the time period between EUIC and NAIC last year

that’s for the stipend award

[waxen dock]

oh i was worried fir a second

but why doesnt the 2026 oprion show up?

[next stump]

everyone is back at 0 in terms of qualifying for worlds

today is the first day you can get earn points in VGC

so probably just hasn’t updated yet

[waxen dock]

im so nervous

for the gc

[upper zealot]

what’s a play point

[next stump]

every IRL event you attend, you get play points

they’re pretty useless

[solid frigate]

Trust me there is nothing to be nervous about

It’s just all Bo1 CTS stuff haven

[waxen dock]

but its a very improtant tour for me

[next stump]

https://x.com/josecruztcg/status/1962346221479002247?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddfszOAZ6w

god damn lol

[bold geode]

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[serene moth]

Whats stronger life orb or banded?

[real prairie]

banded is stronger,

1.5x instead of 1.3x

but you lose the ability to select multiple moves

[real prairie]

Clever shit

[serene moth]

Thank you

[red willow]

Would Urshifu r be good on a team for reg j with Arceus CSR Chien Pao and Bolt?

And I guess last slot could possibly be Amoonguss for anti tr/utility?

[polar canyon]

I think I would try and fit in something more to threaten farigiraf

If pao is sucker punch and no crunch then farig kinda ruins the fun for those 4

[red willow]

So just like a heavy hitting dark type?

What fits that bill well in reg j

[polar canyon]

Not entirely sure

[red willow]

Urshifu s? Lmao

[polar canyon]

You could try it

[red willow]

His signature dark move should ohko farig right?

[polar canyon]

When in doubt experiment until you're satisfied with something

[red willow]

For sure

Feels weird having a team with no terrain/weather at all lol

I usually be on that jazz heavy

[polar canyon]

Right there's also psychic terrain to worry about

Cir indeedee magearna hard tr is pretty big I think

[red willow]

Ice spinner pao bb

[polar canyon]

Oh yeah nice

I need to try building something that has pao in it

I missed the shiny

I kinda only want blue chi yu because that's the coolest one

That reminds me I should build my reg j team in game now that ranked ladder is up

[red willow]

Yeah Im just trying to get my last 2 mons ironed out then I'm giving it a whirl lol

[polar canyon]

I was testing in showdown last month and landed at 1500 elo which I think is good enough

[red willow]

Nice nice! What were you on?

[polar canyon]

Lemme get the team

https://pokepast.es/f3eda86e4a7bcdb6

I told myself I'd fine tune the evs a bit more at some point but never did

So there's the max max spooky plate csr

It does the job

[red willow]

Looks pretty solid Im just trash at playing korai for some reason lol

[polar canyon]

Honestly I feel trash at it too

Half the wins feel like I barely managed it lol

I try to play extremely careful against mirai

[red willow]

Yeah maraidon is just a house in general lol

Scary scary mon

[polar canyon]

Electabuzz can redirect a draco from timid specs and live

[red willow]

Yeah eviolite buzz tanks so much stuff that it always baffles me lmao

[polar canyon]

It's common in reg h but not in reg j

But I honestly think it deserves a spot in reg j

[red willow]

I mean redirection is generally more powerful the higher quality mons you are playing with IMO

Saving a CSR > Saving a Dnite lol

[polar canyon]

It's also outspeeding smeargle and vital spirit non-prankster taunt is a big clutch against darkrai

[red willow]

Are peolle actually trying out gravity void?

[polar canyon]

Yeah

[red willow]

Wild lol I thought it would be a lil too gimmicky

[polar canyon]

You'd think smeargle muk is too gimmicky

But people still do it

[red willow]

For sure lol

[polar canyon]

It's definitely not super common but it's still worth being aware of

[short quiver]

yes its everywhere 😭

ive been hunting for iron leaves for 2 days now to no avail

[solid frigate]

you mean

trading for iron leaves

cuz that mon is event tera raid exclusive-

[short quiver]

yea

in trade chats if posted request ive posted requests on Home

i offered a shiny primarina 🫠

no one will give me my robot deer

[next stump]

you’re probably going to need to offer something like a version exclusive legendary

[short quiver]

well they cant have my miraidon i kinda need it FOR the iron leaves

i could offer my terapagos…….

[next stump]

yeah but think about it from their perspective, it’s a limited time pokemon with one per save file

why trade it for anything less

[short quiver]

cuz who uses iron leaves anymore 🥺

[solid frigate]

i don't think pagos is enough seemingly you can farm that guy for save files

[short quiver]

you can with the other version exclusive legendaries too

[solid frigate]

yeah but Pagos can be obtainable in both versions

[short quiver]

🫠

[upper zealot]

it’s only worth 75 cp

[craggy aspen]

Hello guys

I am in need of some help

[next stump]

hello

[craggy aspen]

What would be a good comp team for my ninetales? I’m trying to get the master ribbon but I suck at comp

[next stump]

alolan or kanto

[craggy aspen]

Kanta

I’ve looked online but can only find alolan teams

[short quiver]

cuz kanto ninetales is basically never used since torkoal does the same thing 🫠

[craggy aspen]

Yea I know but it’s for my ribbon master challenge

[next stump]

yeah kanto ninetales is unfortunately pretty bad 🙁 but two things:

1. you can force a team with it and make it work if you try hard enough

2. you can earn master tier with another team, and then just use ninetales and get the ribbon taht way

[short quiver]

i mean ninetales CAN work its just harder

[craggy aspen]

I have every ribbon from xd and up 😭

[short quiver]

i used it for a bit 😃

[craggy aspen]

What did you use along with it?

[short quiver]

it was reg h

i used hisuian typhlosion with it

and then faketears ninetales

[craggy aspen]

I was doing it swsh cause I thought it might be easier but I just suck at comp in general lol

[short quiver]

i mean you can use ninetales just be mindful the slower pokemon with weather will win the weather war

[craggy aspen]

Need to find me a good team then I assume

[next stump]

you're going to be 20 times easier off using a regular team to get master ball tier, then playing a single game with ninetales for the ribbon once you're there

especially since we've just switched rulesets to one that allows mythical and restricted legendary pokemon

[craggy aspen]

I’ll use a rental team in violet then to get up there

I’ll have to figure out the tower master ribbon. Thank you guys for the insight!

[short quiver]

me who hasn’t even left great ball tier

[next stump]

RIP

[short quiver]

in my defense i cant find my team, yk?

i cant find the team that works for me

if tried calyrex, miraidon, kyogre, zacian, zamazenta, i tried koraidon i tried terapagos

[polar canyon]

You'll get there

If it gets hard using a rental is not a bad thing

Winning is about making the right plays when it comes down to actual games

Your team just defines what plays you have available

[polar canyon]

So did you like any of that

[short quiver]

zamazenta is all ive enjoyed so far

[polar canyon]

Like solo zamazenta or it with something else?

I think running a restricted you enjoy paired with one that compliments it well even if you don't like it is a good balance

Sometimes 2 that you like is too much to ask

[short quiver]

solo zama was my favorite

[short quiver]

ik its good with kyogre but idk kyogre was so boring to me

150 base power stab rain boosted mystic water booster water spout

wowwww stuff died. so cool. 😑

[polar canyon]

I mean you could sort of apply that to zama

150 defense with a free boost

Wowwww it doesn't get one shot

[short quiver]

body press is not a guaranteed kill

should also mention i dont use iron defense

[polar canyon]

Water spout also isn't

You just have to play around it right and it's easier to do that than it looks

[next stump]

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X · Sep 1, 2025, 8:22 PM

[polar canyon]

Change the weather, priority moves, defensive tera, just have a resist

[short quiver]

i really dont wanna use kyogre 🫠

[polar canyon]

That's ok

[short quiver]

id do zama miraidon for iron leaves if i HAD an iron leaves

[polar canyon]

Kyogre wouldn't even be my first pick for a zama pair

Miraidon is cool

[short quiver]

im also not Aaron Cybertron Zang so id probably fail with that res duo anyaays

[polar canyon]

You don't have to always use a wacky unorthodox pokemon to make winning impressive

I mean if you think about it this way

[short quiver]

i want to use iron leaves cuz its fucking cool

[polar canyon]

If you and your opponent have similar teams and you win it just shows you are good at playing the game

[polar canyon]

Ok fair

Is it just hard to get a trade for that?

[short quiver]

dude ive been trying to get one for TWO DAYS

[polar canyon]

What're you offering for it?

Gts in home is also a place you could look for it

[short quiver]

i was offering my shiny primarina now im offering my terapagos

[short quiver]

i am looking on home

thats where i placed the request

[polar canyon]

Have you tried looking here

[short quiver]

and in the official SV server i offered my urshifu🫠

[polar canyon]

This one?

[short quiver]

no the official scarlet violet server

[polar canyon]

I mean this one is as official as it gets I think

There's no actual official nintendo licensed server

[short quiver]

t heres an actual server for the games

omg

im stupid, i thought i was in another server im in

now im stupid lmao

[polar canyon]

It happens

Everyone's a little stupid

[short quiver]

on this server in the trade request i requested one and offered an urshifu water

🫠

[polar canyon]

Gotta keep in mind iron leaves is a very limited pokemon

[short quiver]

and on home i have my pagos in the gts for one

[polar canyon]

I mean everyone got one but everyone only gets one once

So it might be hard to find a trade if what you're offering is something always available

Have you tried looking at gts offers for iron leaves

[short quiver]

yeah

[polar canyon]

Actually what iron leaves set are you even planning on using

[short quiver]

they want another iron leaves, iron crown, or koraidon i dont have

[short quiver]

leaf blade psyblade nightslash protect

[polar canyon]

I mean if you're that desperate, you could replay the game, get a miraidon if you're on Violet and trade it for a koraidon

That's how it is with gts trading sometimes

[polar canyon]

Are you sure

[short quiver]

i have both games

i traded my box kiraidon like a week after i got it

[polar canyon]

Isn't incineroar above 50% usage

[polar canyon]

In 2 days you probably could've beaten the game on a new file

[short quiver]

yeah but sacred sword gives me nothing for the horses/lunala

[short quiver]

yeah if i didnt have to work both days

[polar canyon]

Have you like tried iron leaves on showdown

You better be sure you can make it work well before putting a lot of effort into getting one

[next stump]

1st place ranked season team

Suica again for the 6th time

[polar canyon]

Cool

Never fun seeing smeargle but koraidon w

Wonder how that team plays around opposing tr

Or how often you'd try to get tr up with cir with only one slow attacker for it

[short quiver]

Even if I can’t get it to work on my team, I still want one. It looks cool.

[polar canyon]

Verizon

[short quiver]

I have a Verizon, but that’s not iron leaves

[polar canyon]

Virizion != verizon

Have you tried zama csr yet

Favorite of words players

[short quiver]

yes

[polar canyon]

How'd it feel?

When you play csr you notice a bit more that it's not a free win spam button because it's not always free to press the win button

Strongest pokemon of all time (arguably) but for that reason people always carry counters for it

[short quiver]

i mean, I didn’t mind it was expanding force

*with

[polar canyon]

I'm taking it you just don't like free win mons with how you describe playing kyogre

[short quiver]

No, I like actual challenge

That’s why im known for unconventional shit

[polar canyon]

You are?

[short quiver]

yes

[polar canyon]

Well the challenge is gonna come when you're in higher rankings and opponents also have optimal super strong teams

Maybe you shouldn't try to make every step of the way more challenging

You know what I mean?

If a team feels too good or easy to use on low ladder it doesn't mean it'll stay like that when you climb higher

Unless you're actually the best player in the world by a very long shot then you'll always reach a spot that actually gets hard

[short quiver]

my favorite comp mons to use are zama ogerpon (specifically i like firepon) meowscarada and raichu

[polar canyon]

Korai zama?

[short quiver]

hm?

[lean ridge]

Arceus csr has been pretty fun so far

[short quiver]

what about koraidon? 😭

[dreamy cobalt]

What you guys think of this team
Rayquaza (loaded dice)
Haxerous (life orb)
Greninja
Dusk wing Necrozma
Charizard
Arceus (dread plate)

Any tips for improvements

It’s an all black shiny team

[short quiver]

haxorus is interesting

[feral oar]

Can someone help me get started on showdown

[next stump]

sure, do you have a computer/laptop handy now?

[feral oar]

Yes a computer

[next stump]

do you have showdown open?

[feral oar]

Yes

[next stump]

step one is creating an account in the top right corner

the username has to be unique, otherwise it’ll ask you to sign in with a password which means that name is taken

[short quiver]

making an account is good for saving your teams and any progress you make in matches

[short quiver]

could i do these 4 +indeedee+ expanding force CSR?

[dense latch]

did you see the video i attached yesterday? having it side to side with your screen is probably gonna be helpful

https://youtu.be/UJQsZrHgL14?si=naQDFGHJiAZcIus0

[short quiver]

imagine scamming in an official server

[feral oar]

Got it

[dense latch]

CSR would work great but that last slot should lean into offense imo, you’re essentially using raichu over raging bolt which is an objectively better offensive pokemon and doubling down on redirection support on indeedee won’t help much

[short quiver]

well if i had a raging bolt id love to 😃

[feral oar]

Wdym?

[dense latch]

the youtube video i just sent breaks down the entire process of learning how to use showdown and i thought following it through would be helpful for you to get used to the website

[solid frigate]

what am i looking

[short quiver]

they wanted a team of all black shinies apparently

[solid frigate]

Dusk Wing is red shiny tf

[short quiver]

idk they said it not me

[short quiver]

^^^^^

[dreamy cobalt]

Yes and black and red shiny

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani-shiny/necrozma-duskmane.gif

[solid frigate]

THATS BLUE AND RED

[short quiver]

That is literally blue

[dreamy cobalt]

Same thing 🤭

[whole crow]

Hi everyone, I have Pokémon Violet and I’d like to trade Future Paradox Pokémon for Past ones to complete the Pokédex. If anyone can give me a hand, I’d really appreciate it. You can also message me privately.

[dreamy cobalt]

What should I change in my team then any tips

[solid frigate]

Blue is not black unless you make Iodine Solution stuff-

[solid frigate]

If you want you can ask people from #trading_sv for Dex completion

[dreamy cobalt]

I’m just messing around but yes I know I was gonna use shiny hawlucha but honestly I’m not good at making teams

[short quiver]

what other move would i run with expanding and astral barrage on eforce CSR

[whole crow]

Thanks

[gentle crag]

lukenardell has given 1 Gen Rep to morrispxg456

[solid frigate]

@short quiver literally my reaction when I hear it’s black but it’s should be blue-

[short quiver]

cerydra spotted. short queen energy

[dreamy cobalt]

So who should I change out for a good PvP team?

[short quiver]

first question. what is haxorus supposed to do, second you have 3 restricted

[lofty tartan]

I was about to say - you've got one more restricted than you're allowed

[short quiver]

rayray dusk mane and arceus are all restricted

[dreamy cobalt]

On ranked only Arceus is restricted

[solid frigate]

Nothing

Not in this set

[lofty tartan]

No, Arceus plus box legends are Restricted.

[short quiver]

nope rayray and dusk mane are restricted

[lofty tartan]

In Casual nothing is Restricted.

[dreamy cobalt]

Welp fuck

[solid frigate]

Before you swap teammates

Do you even have a Moveset-

[lofty tartan]

[dreamy cobalt]

Not the best lmao

[short quiver]

i didnt think it would be of any use whatsoever here

[dreamy cobalt]

Why can’t I send a pic

[lofty tartan]

Because you don't have permissions to yet

[dreamy cobalt]

Ah

[lofty tartan]

You can send PokePaste links, though. That's preferred, anyway.

[solid frigate]

loaded dice set works with haxours in singles cuz it has scale shot

But thats it

[short quiver]

they have loaded dice on rayray

[solid frigate]

yeah thats why i said nothing

Not on lorb set

man i like dice Haxourus when i play randbats

[short quiver]

another question what is dusk mane for anyways ray ray and arceus should be fine, no?

[solid frigate]

dusk mane is fine but if its based on shiny then it kills a lot of mons cuz Koraidon's shiny wasn't even legal-

[short quiver]

🤷‍♂️

[dreamy cobalt]

Ray (loaded dice
-dragon dance
-dragon ascent
-thunderbolt
-earthquake
Arceus (dread plate)
-foul play
-judgment
-heat wave
-dazzling gleam
Charizard (life orb)
-flamethrower
-dragon pulse
-solar beam
-air slash
Greninja
-hydro pump
-dark pulse
-ice beam
-grass knot
Haxerous (life orb)
-dragon dance
-iron head
-close combat
-rock slide

[lofty tartan]

PokePaste is so much better than this.

[solid frigate]

FINALLY SOMEONE KNOWS HOW TO PLAY GRENINJA

[dense latch]

is this a singles or a doubles team

[short quiver]

THUNDERBOLT RAY RAY??????

[solid frigate]

Doubles

[dreamy cobalt]

Single

[solid frigate]

Oh

[dreamy cobalt]

Yes I know

I don’t know tf I was thinking when I did that

[dense latch]

also why do you have loaded dice with no multi hit moves

[solid frigate]

Omfg loaded dice without a move that benefit from Dice-

[short quiver]

lmao

[dreamy cobalt]

Was gonna change it to outage

[short quiver]

qnd thunderbolt on physical rayray

[dreamy cobalt]

For the thunderbolt

Yes yes I know I’m not the best at making competitive teams or good teams in general

[dense latch]

many of these are just outclassed in ranked battles

[solid frigate]

Clear Amulet,dragon dance Extreme speed dragon ascent EQ

[dense latch]

it’s okay you gotta start somewhere

[solid frigate]

There are still stat drop moms in single so CA is still fine

But yeah I rather play Espeed

[short quiver]

beautiful

[dense latch]

idt intimidate is as common in singles ranked

lando t is the highest at like 11%

i’d argue it’s not worth the item slot

[solid frigate]

Rayquaza @ Clear Amulet
Ability: Air Lock
Level: 50
Tera Type: Normal
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Extreme Speed
• Dragon Ascent
• Dragon Dance / Swords Dance
• Earthquake

[solid frigate]

its more like a safety measure than anything cuz speed drops and stuff

but usually run lorb is fine

[dense latch]

i could see lorb band or even sash working

[solid frigate]

you don't run ddance anyway with band

[dense latch]

Swords Dance might be a better option for stronger espeeds

that’s what you’d probably use more often with ray

im not experienced with singles so im just looking at the stats for something to base ideas off of

[dreamy cobalt]

What about anyone else in my team what would you guys change

[solid frigate]

why two dark move for arceus without reliable set up for it

[dense latch]

if you’re set on the black shiny theme then there’s not much else you can do it’s very limiting

[solid frigate]

dark Arceus argubly needs set up-

[dreamy cobalt]

Pretty much my entire team does

I was gonna switch Haxerous for hawlucha but I’m caught up honestly

[solid frigate]

greninja doesn't

run Choice Specs and you are done

[short quiver]

🥺

[real prairie]

this team has been lethal for me surprisingly https://pokepast.es/395074bb950f8e87

[polar canyon]

Double decorate

[real prairie]

just blow shit up: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2433332522-mnyo96eqv6jnr5hcft1sr474gh4macrpw

[cyan smelt]

That's funny

[brave hazel]

Yoo im tryna think a legend or mythical pokemon that I used to use in sword online. It’s a ghost type im pretty sure. Would anyone here have a clue ?

[cyan smelt]

Does decorate fail on gholdengo?

[brave hazel]

Marshadow. That’s it.

Man whatever happened to this pokemon ? Does no one use it now or something ?

[real prairie]

yes

[cyan smelt]

Yeah thought so

[foggy lodge]

Its not in the game

[brave hazel]

Yeah I assumed that it was illegal to have in the game. Wonder why they didn’t allow it tho, they let darkrai

[short quiver]

chat what tera are magearna running rm

i need to plan accordingly

[polar canyon]

Water and grass I think

I see more water than grass

Which is a good thing

Bc spore

[short quiver]

so my ogerpon can nuke it before AND after tera

(i use firepon)

[polar canyon]

Well it's not that simple

Unless you correctly predict the tera and click wood hammer on the steel type

While also avoiding having your ogerpon nuked by a scarf final gambit annihilape

It can also be a follow me smeargle

It's always one of those 2

[short quiver]

i use powerwhipe

sure it can miss, but its doesnt have the downside of recoil

[dense latch]

missing will lose you more games than the recoil

power whip is only really used on rockpon to keep sturdy

[short quiver]

😨

[foggy lodge]

Hot take wood hammer rockpon > power whip

[short quiver]

why would you sacrifice your own sturdy

[dense latch]

because power whip sucks that much

speaking from experience

[foggy lodge]

The amount of times where I found that losing sturdy was game losing were way less than the amount of times where missing power whip was game lossing

[foggy lodge]

Basically yeah

If power whip was even like 90% accurate it would be worth it

But 85% is just too much of a risk

I hate icicle crash chien pao too but like

I have no choice there if I have a terrain setter

[dense latch]

the showdown animation of power whip missing makes it worse

your ogerpon goes slightly to the side as it power whips the ground and all you can do is watch as that loses you the game

[foggy lodge]

It also feels way less rng heavy

Like you could most of the time play around breaking your own sturdy or around killing your own ogerpon

Power whip just makes it too volatile

[short quiver]

im also using tera ground tera blast meowscarada 😃

it melts miraidon with choice band 😃

[foggy lodge]

I miss Ogerpon so much

And after this gen we will have to wait like a year to play it again

https://tenor.com/view/wes-fall-to-knees-scream-gif-27602552

[dense latch]

https://tenor.com/view/ogerpon-my-beloved-teal-mask-gif-12058198746172826119

[short quiver]

we all love ogerpon

Poni is the goat

she also happens to quite possibly be the best redirector in the game

[foggy lodge]

I wouldn't say its the best redirect

As a redirector mons like Amoonguss or Clefairy are better

But Ogerpon just has follow me + nuke

So it makes it a lot more flexible

[short quiver]

amoongus couldnt be better cuz it doesn’t work on grass types

which a lot of stuff can take advantage of

[next stump]

ogerpon was one of the few strong gen 9 pokemon where it managed to be strong yet never feel broken

[dense latch]

i've never heard someone say that they hate ogerpon

might be one of the healthiest great vgc mons we've ever got

[short quiver]

shes so cute who could hate her

[rustic mountain]

no reason to really

[foggy lodge]

Ivy cudgel is a bit too broken but Ogerpon nah

[rustic mountain]

like yall mentioned its pretty straight forward

[foggy lodge]

100 BP and high crit chance is wild

[rustic mountain]

i think the teras being limited is a huge bonus

[foggy lodge]

But its less broken than astral or glacial lol

So we roll with it

[rustic mountain]

eh its fine in the grand scheme

[foggy lodge]

Mhm

[short quiver]

😃

[rustic mountain]

[dense latch]

finally top 500 bo3, 19-3 record this team is goatedd

so glad i got off bo1

[short quiver]

isnt bo3 harder

cuz they kinda get to learn your team

[next stump]

bo3 is usually considered harder

[dense latch]

what makes it harder for some isn't this but having to adapt through games and playing consistently over the possible three games

yea they know your team but so do you

[short quiver]

idk i feel like them having knowledge is like not good

knowledge is everything in comp right?

[next stump]

you also have the knowledge too though

[dense latch]

and that ends up being better most of the time because you know all they can do
and they know all you can do so they're less likely to make irrational plays that they may do due to them covering for something you did not have

[short quiver]

dont you want them to make irrational moves?

[dense latch]

irrational moves that you may have not considered and can lose you the game

it's not as important as the first reason

[short quiver]

like expecting a tera and using a move that accommodates the tera?

[dense latch]

ots (at least for me) makes it easier to find plays since you have a better idea of what your opponent can do with that exchange of information

[short quiver]

if only thunderpunch meowscarada was at all viable

i could catch a LOT of people off guard

it only has any use to deal with pelipper 🫠

which is basically nonexistent in the current format from what ive heard

[rustic mountain]

new gen vgc players wen ots is removed after sv:

[dense latch]

i don't think i can live without ots anymore

[short quiver]

wait its getting removed??

why???

[dense latch]

we don't know yet but it was only added to sv because tera would be kinda unfair and unpredictable in tournaments otherwise

[short quiver]

so ots didnt exist in vgc before?

[dense latch]

no

[next stump]

it was also in SV because we didn't have the ability to lock our battle teams for tournaments compared to previous games

I think it's hopefully been positively received enough to the point where it stays in the future

[short quiver]

well i hope we get to keep ots

TPCI should do like a community poll 😃

[next stump]

same I hope so too

I think the actual IRL tournament VGC community is probably 90/10 in favor of OTS staying

if not more

I only know one or two guys who wish it would go back

[forest arrow]

Would be a weird adjustment since I started with ots

[dense latch]

removing ots would bring some serious backlash but maybe tpci won't care much

[short quiver]

theres a lot TPCI doesnt care about

[forest arrow]

I dont think theyd ever do a poll lol

[short quiver]

they should

a lot of people want OTS to stay for vgc

[forest arrow]

Yeah fs

[next stump]

I only went to 2 regionals that were CTS and it’s like the wild west

I ran trick Iron Ball Grimmsnarl with thunder wave as well

and sucker punch for CSR

[short quiver]

sounds fun

[rustic mountain]

not definitively im just speculating cause vgc didnt have ots before sv

[hollow fossil]

Bro magearna is so braindead LMAOOOO

[rustic mountain]

cant wait to roll up w/ 2 good restricteds and just run thru every1 using a mythical

[hollow fossil]

The "i have no talent" of all pokemon

See this is why mythicals stay banned

[foggy lodge]

I think I could survive in a CTS environment

Tera is really what kills CTS in this gen

I have a safe play of draco into this mon oh nvm It's a random tera fairy mon

At some extent in CTS you have to recognize what are the most likely moves your opponent can make or what are the sets that their mons most likely have

[rustic mountain]

nah i just dont opt out of winning by actively throwing

[rustic mountain]

i think tera shouldve been one of the explicit reasons on why ots was a thing outside the battle box aspect but its not really stated its just assumed

but yea tera just creates such an added layer of things to consider w/o ots id imagine bo3 being a nightmare not only trying to figure out moves/speed order etc but also tera type

[foggy lodge]

Mhm

Its just way too many possible outcomes to just clicking a SE move into a mon that you can't afford it

[rustic mountain]

i wouldnt mind ots being kept after sv but i also dont think its a guarantee given the context

[rustic mountain]

on 6 different mons to boot, bo3s coming down to tera roulette seems miserable af

[dense latch]

cts mausape

[short quiver]

i mean if tera is in Champions OTS should stick around right

[dense latch]

https://tenor.com/view/100-yard-stare-1000-yard-stare-stare-staring-staring-meme-gif-18404030142962634873

[short quiver]

…. right?

[foggy lodge]

Yea

Atleast imo it should

[rustic mountain]

we know for a fact it wont be, atleast to start, first format will be megas only

[foggy lodge]

But TPCi is not the best at making decisions

[short quiver]

i think mega is even more reason to keep ots

[rustic mountain]

y?

[short quiver]

especially with all the new megas

[short quiver]

idk at least one of these new megas is gonna be gimmicky as fuck

[foggy lodge]

Imagine having to guess if the Dragonite is choice band loaded dice or mega dnite

Lmao

[rustic mountain]

i think once the format settles itll be easy to figure out wat comps have wat mons designated as a mega

and even if not, ppl played quite a few formats w/ megas and cts and they seemed absolutely fine

[short quiver]

yeah but now we have double
the amount of megas

right?

[rustic mountain]

and most wont be good for comp

[forest arrow]

Will be an adjustment for sure but I get you

[rustic mountain]

im not even saying its 100%

[forest arrow]

No yeah just speculation

[short quiver]

someone will make them work

[forest arrow]

Will just be weird for the ones who started in S/V

[short quiver]

like myself 🫠

[rustic mountain]

what is making it work though? i feel we have different definitions of that

[foggy lodge]

Even then megas is way more managable than tera in cts

Because every mon can atleast be like 5 different teras

[short quiver]

“work” depends on each different player

[rustic mountain]

idk bout that but it definitely could get messy if u dont have ots w/ a mechanic like tera

[short quiver]

for me “work” means cheesing tf outta someone

[forest arrow]

Wasnt mega khanga always FO Power up punch yada yada? like yeah it was cts but they all pretty much ran the same stuff?

[foggy lodge]

Actually

[short quiver]

idc if i win as long as i had my fun first

[foggy lodge]

For CTS z moves were way more toxic than megas

[rustic mountain]

yea to me its more winning way more then u lose and the strategy/comp/mon is effective in doing what its supposed to i.e leading u to win games on a regular basis

[foggy lodge]

Becuase yeah megas change stats and even types

[short quiver]

again i can lose i do NOT care i just want to cheese something first

[foggy lodge]

But z moves were I have a gun I can fire at any moment if I want to and you may or may not see it coming

[rustic mountain]

not just like oh yea i tera normal explosioned t1 and koed 2 mons of theirs but still lost but holy shit i totally cheesed them is not making something work

[short quiver]

explosion is not cheese 😒

[rustic mountain]

[foggy lodge]

It is lmao

[rustic mountain]

explosion may not be maximum cheese but its still cheese nonetheless

[short quiver]

thats what people call cheese? 😭

[rustic mountain]

dude 100%

[foggy lodge]

Then what's your definition of cheese?

[short quiver]

i consider cheese like struggle locking something

[dense latch]

tera normal explosion is 100% cheese

[short quiver]

encore disable type shit

[foggy lodge]

So scream tail is cheese

[forest arrow]

2 protects and you lost a mon for no reason

[short quiver]

ABSOLUTELY

[rustic mountain]

scream tail is actually good tho

[foggy lodge]

One of the most popular and consistent mons in the last formats...

[rustic mountain]

ur definitions of things are very distorted

[short quiver]

scream tail is HELLA cheese

[forest arrow]

especially on sun teams

[brave hazel]

Why does the new game have ranked format when the pokemon don’t even have ability’s

[short quiver]

i enjoy different things rhan you thats all

[forest arrow]

scream tail was MVP on agatis Reg I team

[rustic mountain]

more just for fun + different kind of gameplay so abilities arent as relevant

[brave hazel]

This isn’t a new main tho is it ?

Like champions will have ability’s yeah ?

competitive pokemon is based on the turn based type, I hope they don’t try to change that

[rustic mountain]

not even that ur understanding of what makes something work and what constitutes cheese are objectively wrong, its not a matter of preference

[rustic mountain]

yes

[short quiver]

🤷‍♂️

[rustic mountain]

vgc is still vgc lza is just having its own more casual based rank ladder, its not even 1v1 its 4v4s

[short quiver]

multibattles with no abilities is crazy

[rustic mountain]

i think itll be fun w/ friends just messing around maybe some ppl sweat it and team up and grind out but i dont mind seeing sub categories for competitive being side events or something at regionals/internats

cool to introduce other types of battles that arent the main turn based system

[brave hazel]

I hope all the shiny rare marked pokemon I’ve caught for champions will be allowed in.

Been reading that you have to “ unlock “ pokemon in the game

[short quiver]

didnt PLA have online battles too

[rustic mountain]

yea hard to say what we have to do to transfer mons in whether its in game currency or otherwise

[rustic mountain]

nope

[short quiver]

what a shame

[brave hazel]

or that stats get cleared when transferring form home & you have to use the In game unlockables to edit them.

[rustic mountain]

seems lza has a lot more focus on the battle aspect in terms of trainer vs trainer

[brave hazel]

Makes everything in Scarlett useless

Time wise

[rustic mountain]

id prefer stats carry over but well see

they are definitely going to use the game currency to incentivize players to play to gain it but to what degree remains to be seen

[short quiver]

imagine we have to 31 iv every mon. trick room will never recover

[rustic mountain]

i hope they dont do away w/ ivs

[short quiver]

what if they just bring back the old dv system

🫠

[rustic mountain]

slow mons would still be slow mons i think it just takes a lot out of skill expression for people to utilize within the game dynamics

[short quiver]

for sure

[rustic mountain]

[short quiver]

who is harold and why is he replied to my dv comment

[rustic mountain]

harold is a classic meme from early 2010s and its displaying disgust to the suggestion of dvs being brought back

[short quiver]

i would despise dvs

[rustic mountain]

they wont be lmao

[short quiver]

ive played pokemon long enough to know what that is but not comp long enough ti deal with it

[rustic mountain]

we were shown evs in the champions trailer

its really just a matter of ivs being thrown away or not

my simplest guess is ivs are based on the mon u earn through the game (whatever default they may have) or whatever iv the mon u transfer in has and it just doesnt let u mess w/ ivs in champions specifically but they still exist

might just be a coding issue and its too messy to change ivs at will in champions and transfer them back into the main games

[short quiver]

or it could like mark the old ivs and when you trade it back to home it revert to those ivs

[lunar mural]

im looking to make a team for the upcoming grand challenge, can anyone help me figure out how to breed these pokemon with the right moves?

[short quiver]

egg moves? i gotchu

whatcha need

[dense latch]

scarlet and violet made it so if you give your pokemon a mirror herb and a free moveslot, then open a picnic with a second pokemon that gets the move you want to learn it'll automatically learn it

so long as it's classified as an egg move

[short quiver]

just dont swap the move or you’ll have to do it all over again

[lofty tartan]

Minor inconvenience honestly. Mirror herb made egg moves inconsequential

[lunar mural]

so if i get the pokemon i can just start breeding for iv and natures and worry about moves later?

[short quiver]

yeah but having the move on the parent makes it slightly easier

[cyan smelt]

You don't even need IVs and nature with mints and bottle caps

[short quiver]

it certainly helps though

[short quiver]

chat does someone have a random wheel with all the mons available in SV+dlc

i wanna spin a wheel to pick my team for this play through

[bold geode]

Aight GC team is locked

[stone trellis]

What's the team? (Tell me in DMs, I locked in my team with half the Tera Types being wrong so I can't exactly compete)

[bold geode]

Not sharing

But we'll
It's interesting
Better than it looks for sure

Also in a way
It's a trip down memory lane for me

[shadow wind]

@dense latch You play any bad n' boosted?

Might be top 2 OMs for me

[stone trellis]

What's that?

[short quiver]

all ik is OM is other metagame, so probably something to do with showdown

[shadow wind]

An OM or Bad n' Boosted?

[wooden steeple]

still undecided between running something better pr something funnier for gc

[short quiver]

are you trying to win or troll 🫠

[wooden steeple]

I'm trying to have a good time, reg H is shit tho

[brave hazel]

Do you reckon in future games they will nerf koraidon ability to just sunlight ? Like what they did with the ORAS legends in future games

I think it’s instant attack boost on an already powerful attack stat is pretty OP, add a choice band & it’s close to 0HKO anything, especially once you terra as well.

like flareblits, fire terra with ability does insane damage.

[wooden steeple]

why koraidon and not miraidon

[lofty tartan]

They're both fine. Power creep is a thing

[wooden steeple]

yeah they're strong but also well designed as opposed to certain horses and previously a dog, so I don't mind them remaining unnerfed

[knotty mirage]

Yeah the thing is koraidon need to tera to do the insane damage so i think it's the one they need less to worry about unlike miraidon

[brave hazel]

Still does insane damage with out the Terra. Choice band & ability do crazy damage

Just caught a rare as tinkaton tho, idk what EVS & nature to go with for singles. If it’s more tanky or straight assault with adamant

[knotty mirage]

But even then korai will not be that great on possible next gen anyway where tera doesn't exist

[stone trellis]

Bad n' Boosted.

[waxen dock]

I almost registered to the gc a mon without an item

I almost lost a battle cuz of this

And i won with my gc team aginst a reg j team with 3 special mons isntead of 2 i. Reg j

He had kyurem arceus and miraidon while i used my gc team

And i won

[next stump]

How come you’re locking your team on Tuesday? You just know what you’re gonna use already 100%?

[waxen dock]

its in 3 days

and i feel confident in my team

[next stump]

lock in is 60 hours from now

depending on timezone that’s Thursday and it’s Tuesday

[solid frigate]

I’m still not done testing my team and I have to build the team within two days time-

[karmic temple]

I like to lock my team in 5 minutes before the deadline with random mons

[bold geode]

[karmic temple]

[bold geode]

How you been

[dense latch]

does it get any more reg h than this

[shadow wind]

Ok so picture this, Gen 9 AG BUT if a mons base stat is 70 or under it gets doubled

[stone trellis]

So Chandelure has what, base 120 Speed?

Does it work on HP too?

[shadow wind]

It doesn’t have base 60 speed so no

And yes it works on HP

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 700: Sylveon

Type

Fairy

Abilities

Cute Charm, Pixilate (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/65/65/110/130/60

Total

525

Sableye version 4.28.4

[shadow wind]

So for example Sylveon would have 130 Atk and defense as well as 120 speed

[stone trellis]

Perfect.

[shadow wind]

Just give it protect and last resort and you got a weapon

It’s unfortunate that Skarmory has 140/140/140

[stone trellis]

Perfect.

Man, I wish Groudon was more minmaxxed.

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 227: Skarmory

Types

Steel/Flying

Abilities

Keen Eye, Sturdy, Weak Armor (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

65/80/140/40/70/70

Total

465

Sableye version 4.28.4

[stone trellis]

So that becomes 130/80/140/80/140/140?

[vestal vortex]

That’s so cute the big big copper hammer looks way better than the metal one -

[shadow wind]

I forgot he had 65 hp not 70

But yeah that's what he'd be

a BST of 710

[short quiver]

why is that unfortunate

[shadow wind]

Because it's just a stat machine

Stall is incredibly strong

[short quiver]

pretty little baby (yeah yeah)

i love skarmory 🫠

its not even fast enough to use as a body press mon or i so would

[shadow wind]

Well in this meta game it is

140 speed

[stone trellis]

I wish there was a Pokemon that had around 70 in everything.

Hold on.

Glaceon gets 130 Speed and HP.

And Chi-Yu gets like, 110 HP.

[short quiver]

yeah but there are also mons that would STILL be faster

since every mon has doubled stats 140 speed isnt an impressive number anymore

[stone trellis]

And Umbreon becomes a monster offensively too.

The Eeveelutions seem cracked overall.

[short quiver]

umbreon becomes fucking technoblade. bro will never die.

it would have rhe power to match its bulk

[stone trellis]

95/130/110/120/130/130 is restricted legendary stats.

Gives it a BST of 705, I think?

[stone trellis]

The Eeveelutions seem perfect for this meta by the nature of their stats.

[short quiver]

715

[stone trellis]

Right.

So the Eeveelutions get close to Arceus in this meta.

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/greed-umbreon-my-beloved-gif-13478113036991026276

[stone trellis]

That image looks weird.

[short quiver]

yes it does

idk it had umbreon so i took it

[stone trellis]

Bet you it's cropped NSFW.

[short quiver]

possibly

wouldnt surprise me

[short quiver]

isnt arceus stats 720

[stone trellis]

Cyclizar becomes a tank too.

[stone trellis]

Yeah, and 715 is close to 720.

[split sparrow]

If y'all had to pick a top 3 comp pokemon, who would they be

[stone trellis]

140 HP / 130 Def / 130 SpD.

[dense latch]

oh shit fast cir

[stone trellis]

In doubles?

[dense latch]

incin incin incin

[short quiver]

OH HELL YEAH

[split sparrow]

Either/or

[shadow wind]

Lowkey makes him worse

[split sparrow]

This be incineroar yes?

[stone trellis]

Icy: " Who the king, clanka?"
Miraidon: "You, king!"

Yes.

[shadow wind]

Although I ran into a scarf CIR with trick

So that wasn't very fun

[split sparrow]

So like say for example right

[dense latch]

if you're talking just sheer power during one format
probably zacian xern and smth else

consistently incin and amoong are the among the best in any format they're allowed in

[split sparrow]

Lvl 100, IV bred, EV wiped shiny incineroar would catch interest, yes?

[stone trellis]

In terms of current relevance, I'd say Incineroar, Amoonguss and Urshifu Rapid Strike.

[split sparrow]

Yeah so what's up with amooongus over brute bonnet

[stone trellis]

#trading_sv

[split sparrow]

Ik that, I'm just asking if comp players would be interested in something like that

[short quiver]

brute bonnet isnt always legal. reg h for example

[split sparrow]

Ooooh gotcha!

[stone trellis]

Worse typing, kinda worse ability and it also isn't as flexible.

[split sparrow]

Double gotcha

So I'mma masuda breed max stat littens an mushrooms

Didn't think I was going to become a shroom farmer but there's room for everything I guess-

[short quiver]

what are you breeding littens and foongus for

[split sparrow]

Anything, I just have UNLIMITED FREETIME

[short quiver]

understandable

[split sparrow]

It's a blessing and a curse, I've taken up breeding pokémon as a hobby

[short quiver]

bro do you want to see my Violet boxes 🫠

[stone trellis]

I might need you in the future.

[split sparrow]

I mean, not the place for this discussion, but my DMs are open-

[split sparrow]

Jus lmk what you want, I are have very nice masuda ditto

[shadow wind]

@dense latch

[short quiver]

bet

be prepared for Hatenna overload

[dense latch]

https://tenor.com/view/chrollo-cry-hxh-hunterxhunter-phantomtroupe-gif-6506517958414931234