competitive_discussion

[knotty briar]

Either that or I'll figure something else out

[waxen dock]

im so exited for the gc

[solid frigate]

excited*

[waxen dock]

i will use wolfe baltimore team i really like it

during the first reg h i planned to build something very similar to this

[knotty briar]

Reg H was the one I was least comfortable playing
But that's mainly because it's pretty hostile towards hard TR

[waxen dock]

reg h is actually the best format for hard tr in my opinion

[waxen dock]

because it counters balance and i hate balance

[knotty briar]

I had a really hard time with it
Lilligant Torkoal and imprison Indeedee were EVERYWHERE

[waxen dock]

is sleep talk or focus blast better on scarf typhlosion?

because sleep talk can counter amonguss

or rather i should have a 3rd single target fire type move like overheat

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 510: Liepard

Type

Dark

Abilities

Limber, Unburden, Prankster (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

64/88/50/88/50/106

Total

446

Sableye version 4.28.2

[short quiver]

oh i can make it special nice

[polar canyon]

It's in the game?

Liepard?

[cosmic patio]

anyone got a good rental team for ranked

[solid frigate]

It’s not

Otherwise I have mental breakdown on the copycat strat

[knotty mirage]

Hmm i guess i will try life orb then i don't think i will gain anything good from using AV chien pao

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/Dimsunlight/status/1958672924455707072

Toler Webb (@Dimsunlight)

All y'all playing regulation H on showdown are suspiciously angry in chat. I've never been told I "only win because of luck" so many times in my life. Is that reg h's problem? Does it make people mad? Dangerous...

X · Aug 21, 2025, 11:29 PM

This is actually super real I have never player a format where I got insulted so much lmao

[solid frigate]

what is with Reg H and luck insults-

[foggy lodge]

Ragebaiting format

I had someone actually fish for status with dire claw and blizzard 5 turns in a row lol

[solid frigate]

PFFT

[foggy lodge]

It was their out tho so yeah

But like

I played to my odds and that's what matters

[solemn flicker]

I have used a Choice Band Chien Pao with a defensive tera to withstand a hit neutrally and still attack. It outspeeds alot and hits hard with 252 atk/speed and the rest on HP. I would recommend a redirector though like a Follow Me user or a Raging Powder but you could also pair it with a Screen user to up your defense a bit for survivability purposes. You can maybe drop a bit of ev in speed to add a bit of bulk in HP or Def since Rock and Fighting moves are mostly hitting for super physically. Or if you are facing a spread move like Dazzling Gleam or Eruption, a Wide Guard user can help here too.

[solid frigate]

Life orb
Assault Vest (For ruination shenangins)

[brave hazel]

A legend needing a sash is crazy

mythical sorry not legend

didn’t realise it had nimble defences

[knotty mirage]

The thing is i might also want to use sword of ruin too boost pao partner attack so it need protect i might just go for life orb

[solid frigate]

that doesn't mean its bad lmao

Calyrex(Shadow Rider),Urshifu,Rayquaza (Mega,Wolfe's set 2016),Chi-Yu,etc

and then the Paradox of Flutter Mane and Iron Bundle, and adding the fact if Chien Pao is a Mythical making it not legal for us to use anyway

[brave hazel]

Never needed a sash for flutter, she has tons of SP def

But I guess I don’t play doubles, forget yall only play doubles

[knotty mirage]

Are you playing on BSS or showdown then ?

[short quiver]

in sword and shield yes

im playing swsh again so i can obtain a min speed calyrex

i want a snarl Liepard

i have to FIND tm snarl first

burning jealousy nasty plot round snarl

peak

[shadow wind]

Sneasler syndrome

[waxen dock]

why do you need min speed calyrex?

[wind sparrow]

Hi guys

I just want to ask

https://pokepast.es/4cb07b6844f1ebc1
This team good?

Idk what to add for the 6th mon

Pls give feedback

[chrome knot]

no vry unoptimal, mon choices & move sets & items :v

im not sure what regulation this is supposed to be for

or if its singles or doubles

[wind sparrow]

Doubles

I have heal pulse on blissey for a reason

[chrome knot]

still this

[wind sparrow]

J

[chrome knot]

ok most definitely not please reevaluate, & take a look at the ruleset

[wind sparrow]

Now ik "No mythics?" reasonable

But i lwk just made this for funsies

[chrome knot]

youre allowed like up to 2 restricteds/mythicals, plus any subclasses of legendaries paradox etc

[brave hazel]

Farming gold bottle caps from the item machine is a pain

I don’t wanna do the whole system time trick

Guess I’ll have to keep buying normal bottle caps

[waxen dock]

rng manip?

[woven wedge]

I'm new to competative pokemon and I want a decent doubles team so what is good with zamazenta

[red willow]

CSR is most common partner by far

[woven wedge]

Ok but what other pokemon should I use for like support towards zamazenta and csr

[woven pelican]

4 baby pokemon trust

[red willow]

Tons of options really Oger Hearth Incin Rilla Smeargle Raging Bolt Tornadus are all mons I've seen w it

Whimsi is option as well

[woven wedge]

Should I use a smeargle with like stun and buff moves then

[red willow]

Fake out Spore Follow Me and Decorate is what I'm on since Zam has wide guard

[woven wedge]

Ok

[waxen dock]

Only miraidon and csr are good with zama

[bold geode]

[bold geode]

Emmaaaaaaaaa

[chrome knot]

whaaaaat

[red willow]

So like you cant just pick up a perish song team and play it can you

The strategy seems rather complex

Im not sure when to perish when I have a mon lead or something?

[dense latch]

yeah that's why only one player has had success with it in sv
it's really hard to execute especially in higher power formats

[red willow]

Lol someone posted they were top 20 in ladder with arceus perish and I was legit curious how that works well

For reg j

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/126d7aa0c90f9843

This team got top 4 at worlds

[bold geode]

Haaaaiiiii

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-gholdengo-gif-11170440751423536766

[brave hazel]

I want a reason to shiny catch roaring moon since it’s easy as in area zero to shiny farm. But I feel like it’s a slightly worse version of dragapult, minus the dark typing.

[foggy lodge]

AV Pao died to +2 astral this set is so trash

[brave hazel]

Focus sash better fs

[foggy lodge]

Sash is on CSR

[chrome knot]

+2 220 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Rider Astral Barrage vs. Assault Vest Chien-Pao: 92-109 (49.1 - 58.2%) -- 98.05% chance to 2HKO

tf ass set are u using 😭

[foggy lodge]

oops I tera'd lmao

And I thought it was sash at the moment

Dragonite misses 2/2 protect 50/50s with putrage

[short quiver]

I HATE SCALPERS DAWG 😭

[short quiver]

might i remind you totodile won 4 games at worlds

[foggy lodge]

ok

Idk what that had to do but ok

[short quiver]

idk either i just wanted to mention totodile

[foggy lodge]

ok

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-totodile-splash-play-gif-5688144

[foggy lodge]

I just fought an atk booster Iron Treads wtf

[left bobcat]

TAKE THIS

🐳

🌊

[versed river]

if you put sitrus as an item in the damage calc does it automatically count that? (as in a 2hko would become a 3hko) because with lefties itd say like 3hko after lefties recovery but it doesnt say that

[chrome knot]

yes i believe

don’t quote me on but ive seen [damage calc] % to 2hko after sitrus recovery

[versed river]

cant send images here but its not showing for me

[chrome knot]

do any of the mons in question have unnerve by chance?

[foggy lodge]

252+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 220 HP / 12 Def Volcarona on a critical hit: 306-360 (162.7 - 191.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

It doesn't show up to me either

[bold geode]

Groovin

[bold geode]

I don't believe it actually calcs with the Sitrus berry for multi hit like that

[molten oasis]

it doesnt

[bold geode]

Happy birthday

[molten oasis]

ty

[foggy lodge]

252+ SpA Quark Drive Iron Crown Expanding Force vs. 220 HP / 4 SpD Volcarona: 90-106 (47.8 - 56.3%) -- 84.4% chance to 2HKO

Yeah it still doesn't show up

[chrome knot]

https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/

use the right calculator

[rustic mountain]

not a global challenge so soon after worlds

[short quiver]

chat im watching a wolfie video and he said grassy terrain weaknesses the power if EQ is this true 😱

[molten oasis]

yes its true

[short quiver]

is there any other terrain interactions like that

[chrome knot]

misty terrain halves dragon damage

[short quiver]

i knew that one

[chrome knot]

the rest are very known, i think thats the only grassy terrain effect past glide being priority

[molten oasis]

eterrain stop sleep, misty half dragon and shuts off status, psychic stops prio, grassy half's eq and heals

the only 'weird' one of those is the grassy terrain

[short quiver]

it should also work on bulldoze

[rustic mountain]

psychic terrain stops prio to all grounded pokemon

[molten oasis]

right

[craggy dagger]

[molten oasis]

hi nova

[craggy dagger]

hellou
what’re we cooking today?

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/aacff25a9c25a655 testing this today

[bold geode]

Nah

You're going to the Krusty Krab

[molten oasis]

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/coryxkenshin-job-job-application-scary-gif-4602903687685965413

[rustic mountain]

monke reverting back to shitposting

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/running-ahh-aa-spongebob-meme-gif-19928154

anyway

[molten oasis]

thought on this? probably just a thing for gc

[stone trellis]

Certainly looks more sane than the shit I'm doing with Krookodile.

[molten oasis]

im mostly sane

[rustic mountain]

krookodile hell yea

[stone trellis]

Also wait, when's the GC starting?

[molten oasis]

september 5th

signups are next week

[stone trellis]

I've got enough time.

[molten oasis]

WAIT THATS SILKSONG WEEKEND

[rustic mountain]

i think i have a wedding that weekend

[molten oasis]

maybe im not doing gc

[stone trellis]

I'm running Anger Point + Power Trip and using Frost Breath Smeargle to proc the Anger Point.

It literally kills everyone.

[molten oasis]

go go gadget rillaboom

[short quiver]

i was asking about terrain interactions, specifically grassy terrain and eq

[stone trellis]

Big thanks to @short quiver for the team.

[gentle crag]

skywarsveteran1607 has given 1 Gen Rep to naganohara_akira

[rustic mountain]

ofc its their team

[stone trellis]

No, he just helped me make it.

[bold geode]

Nah

[stone trellis]

The original idea was mine.

[rustic mountain]

either way, not surprising haha

[bold geode]

Why would I do that

[rustic mountain]

idk

[bold geode]

Anyways
How is mons going for peeps

[stone trellis]

That's why I have Salamence and Typhlosion.

[molten oasis]

fine

i kinda wanna play kommo-o like legitimately

[stone trellis]

Also have the option of Tera Steel to wall Wood Hammer.

[rustic mountain]

the return to reg i has somehow been smoother for me then reg h

[molten oasis]

but i dont think either st are all that strong so

[rustic mountain]

kommo-o isnt bad

[molten oasis]

its not

[rustic mountain]

wouldnt say its good rn either but its def not bad

[molten oasis]

yeah im just not sure

idbp doesnt seem all that good

[short quiver]

yw gng

[molten oasis]

lots of resists to fighting around

[short quiver]

aye man unconventional is my middle name

[molten oasis]

and then clangorous soul sets just dont do that much damage

[rustic mountain]

yea the all in approach doesnt seem as rewarding for it as it did in the past

[bold geode]

Low-key my own personal opinion
Reg I better
Idk but like
At least me personally, no matter what I use in H I have to work way harder for wins vs using anything in I

[molten oasis]

[rustic mountain]

i think thats by virtue of it being a lower power format

[molten oasis]

do have the assurace sd gambit in my builder

[foggy lodge]

@bold geode comp helper what is the meta call for the GC that is not Corviknight

[bold geode]

Like hell me using the best stuff in H makes me feel like I gotta work for my wins just as hard as using Solgaleo Kyogre

[bold geode]

Infernape trust

[rustic mountain]

lower power = more turns = more thought for each win, in general at least

[molten oasis]

i like H

and im also beyond done dealing with calyrex

[rustic mountain]

lmao

[foggy lodge]

I haven't feel like that but I'm also just trying stuff and it has been fun

I take this over reg I 100% lmao

[rustic mountain]

i also like reg h i think its a better format then reg i. instead of calyrex and bikes i get to face fucking sneasler and archaludon and ursa bloodmoon like im chillin

[molten oasis]

yeah

[bold geode]

Yeah idk honestly I kinda am not fond of that as much
Not to mention the fact that like literally one of if not the biggest reason why the strongest mons are strong is cuz they removed most of if not all their counters

[foggy lodge]

Hot take Archaludon is worse for reg H meta than Sneasler

Sneasler is oppresive and can hax you but Archaludon is just too much of a raid boss for reg h

[molten oasis]

i think archa rain is disgusting lol

i havent struggled too much into it but its such a big wall to break through

[bold geode]

Like I'm a guy that likes to have generally decent MUs across the board at least and that's hard when they take away damn near all the counters for stuff meaning you can't cover for one thing without having a hole to another thing so massive you can't patch it without deconstructing your team

[molten oasis]

im just trying to not have a unwinnable mu

[rustic mountain]

ur always going to have things filter to the top in any given format tho, whether its cause the checks are "removed" or arent allowed yet. its really only when legends and restricteds get allowed that it changes that but by then eliminating those former top threats it also condenses overall mon use case and viability i.e less variety

[molten oasis]

which idt my current main team has

[foggy lodge]

I'm using erizabeth rain

[molten oasis]

crazy good team

[rustic mountain]

u should have atleast a 50/50 into something as common as arch rain

if not more tbh w/ how much of it is around

[short quiver]

i wanna do reg h on showdown with low sweep meowscarada

[foggy lodge]

My hardest MU is scarf Ape teams just because it can click final gambit into some of my offensive pieces and kill anything lol

Rain doesn't have bad MUs

Or if it does they are like, 40/60 or something like that

Like kim's team

[rustic mountain]

me being able to run sitrus incin again:

[molten oasis]

me being able to run berries again

[bold geode]

Yeah yet people argue that H gives more variety

[craggy dagger]

ow

[foggy lodge]

And you still only run sitrus lol

[molten oasis]

i think H does have more varriety

[red willow]

Do the sun teams just get hosed by arch rain or is torkoal a lil sneaky guy with low enough speed to say look pelipper its sunny

[rustic mountain]

think ur misunderstanding my point, i also think reg h provides more variety

[foggy lodge]

Oh lum berry is also good nvm

[molten oasis]

i think reg I is just, incin horse or bike spam

theres more viable and strong teams imo

thats a very very small summary of it but for the most part

[bold geode]

Idk
I think people just got tired of restricted so people are probably happy for literally anything but that

[molten oasis]

reg I was just, Bike+friends with incin

[red willow]

Reg I just felt like whoever got to hit with their busted spread move first won most games lmao

[foggy lodge]

Reg H is diverse but I think its not like the most diverse format ever like people pretend it is

Its fun seeing niche picks work tho

[molten oasis]

Reg F was diverse

and healthy

[foggy lodge]

Reg F late meta was the saddest meta I played ngl

[molten oasis]

ok fair

bolt balance was really boring

[forest arrow]

Reg F late meta was nothing but Bolt

[chrome knot]

vivillon

[molten oasis]

you're playing vivi chomp?

[rustic mountain]

i wouldnt say that but higher power formats like that are just going to make variety a lot more challenging by having such a large increase to what mons are capable of

[molten oasis]

but like, mid reg f early erg f was cool

[rustic mountain]

idc if late f was bolt i was loving japan balance

[molten oasis]

idk to me it just kinda felt like that

[foggy lodge]

I would say that

[short quiver]

dont the arceus plates still have some effect when held by other mons

[foggy lodge]

In lower power formats niche picks can be strong by themselves in a way if you build properly or have a strong place in the meta as meta calls

[molten oasis]

or mostly just, calyrex bikes, maybe lunala, and supports just gets boring to me

[bold geode]

That

[chrome knot]

nah

[molten oasis]

ah just vivi then, ok

[foggy lodge]

Meanwhile in higher power formats they have to make a very specific job of have a specific set of tools to make them usable

[bold geode]

People think it's the most diverse or say it is cuz no legendaries but like that's just objectively wrong

[molten oasis]

thats not what im saying at all

[short quiver]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-omni-man-are-you-sure-are-you-sure-invincible-gif-3935116808772397515

[rustic mountain]

who said most diverse? thats not wat we were talkin about

[molten oasis]

i said more diverse not most diverse

[rustic mountain]

yea

[foggy lodge]

Actually what's the most diverse pokemon format ever hmmmmm

[chrome knot]

vivillon

[bold geode]

Honestly actually
More diverse but then we have Sneasler hitting 50-60% usage LMAO

[molten oasis]

ahh, very nice looks strong

[foggy lodge]

It would be hard to tell cuz there is like very small data about like 3DS era and those

[rustic mountain]

its just nice having an expanded dex format w.o the super broken or really strong mons

[polar canyon]

Copy of girl dinner

[molten oasis]

incin be like

hitting 50 on average becasue its incin

[foggy lodge]

I like broken shit but I like not having to play broken shit either

[molten oasis]

idc that sneasler is 50% usage id rather deal with sneasler than calyrex

[bold geode]

I mean either way I'm not really caring for H this time around cuz let's be honest
This is just Pokemon keeping people happy til Champions

[rustic mountain]

sneasler is so tame i dont get the overhate, idt ive gotten dire claw haxed in like 50ish games of reg h

[molten oasis]

dire claw doesnt hax me that much but it sucks when it does

[polar canyon]

We love gambling

[foggy lodge]

Dire claw has haxxed me

But idc like

[bold geode]

Most the time I get status it's like fuckin poison

[forest arrow]

Nice to hear I get slept every time

[foggy lodge]

One has to play to its odds

[rustic mountain]

ill care a bit cuz i like the format but the fact its sd only outside irl events sucks

[molten oasis]

ive haxed so many people with a9 tho its funny

[forest arrow]

More like a 50% to sleep

[foggy lodge]

Still reminder that RNG matters

[molten oasis]

dire claw is a stupid move

but the mon itself is perfectly fine

[rustic mountain]

tough dude

[bold geode]

Ok I get Sneasler over Calyrex but like
Honestly still think I'd rather deal with Urshifu

[rustic mountain]

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

lmfao

[rustic mountain]

ur insane

[forest arrow]

Sneasler isn’t the problem. Just its move.

50% to poison is the only thing that makes fucking sense

[foggy lodge]

But its also like

[bold geode]

AT LEAST I KNOW WHAT UNSEEN FIST IS GONNA DO

I never know what Dire Claw is gonna do until it does it

[forest arrow]

Oh let me dire claw, yeah that puts you to sleep

[foggy lodge]

Everything lives more in this format like A9, Sneasler, P2, so its more possible to get critted or get fucked by a secondary effect you know

[bold geode]

ALSO URSHIFU CAN'T DOUBLE IT'S FUCKING SPEED

[forest arrow]

Literally stupid

[molten oasis]

tbf monke

[rustic mountain]

lmao

[foggy lodge]

And also scale shot and dire claw being meta makes matches swing more

[molten oasis]

sneaslers already really damn fast

[polar canyon]

Sneasler simply has electrified toxic tranquilizer dipped claws

[bold geode]

Who decided to give Sneasler Unburden though

[forest arrow]

Fuck its claws

[bold geode]

THE MFER CAN OUTSPEED WHIMSICOTT WITH A TW BOOST

[foggy lodge]

Talonflame,,,

[forest arrow]

Talon beats it

[molten oasis]

go go gadget gholdengo with redirection

[bold geode]

Yeah
BUT WHY

Like you gotta admit it's a little stupid

[forest arrow]

All I’m saying is when I play the perfect game I get slept and lose because of a move that shouldn’t exist I’m gonna get angry

[molten oasis]

agreed

[polar canyon]

I don't care about sneasler being fast the only bad and arguably uncompetitive thing about it fundamentally is dire claw imo

[molten oasis]

its literally just dire claw

[chrome knot]

why is the rain mu so like bweh even w/ a shitass fart espathra

[molten oasis]

lmao

[bold geode]

There's only one thing I like about Reg H
It's that Ursaluna balance is not bad and I can play Mausape again

[polar canyon]

Monke

[rustic mountain]

rng is apart of the game, its just a bit amplified in a move, if u play to limiting its dire claw use, theres no reason to really be getting haxxed out, especially like lum berry or steel tera and shit theres ways to nullify the effects. for me i can usually outspeed it and if i cant cuz it has psychic seed and i can generally just ohko it which means u get 1 dire claw if u even wanna use it otherwise maybe 2 w/ sash. i also have covert cloak amoongus which is a nightmare for it. complaining about it w.o addressing the mon is just going to lead to more complaining

[polar canyon]

Reg h or reg j?

[molten oasis]

do you even play mausape?

thought you were on grassy seed dengo

[bold geode]

I thought about it

[rustic mountain]

nd if u do get haxxed and lose, then ok move on it can happen

[rustic mountain]

thats dangerous

[molten oasis]

lmao

[bold geode]

Man Discord mobile is so shit

[molten oasis]

its not that bad

[bold geode]

Nah it can be bad

[polar canyon]

It's what I use 90% of the time

[molten oasis]

same

[forest arrow]

Yo fr tho

Gambit Protect ape is spicy asf

[rustic mountain]

gta claim shiny chien pao

[molten oasis]

i agree theres bad parts of mobile discord

[rustic mountain]

sash set?

[forest arrow]

Chien Poo is so beautiful in game bro

[polar canyon]

Honestly pokemon showdown on mobile browser is a fire mobile game

[molten oasis]

but idt its all bad

[polar canyon]

It's a bit clunkier but playing showdown whenever you want anywhere is nice

[forest arrow]

I have sitrus berry

max hp max speed

[bold geode]

Anyways I'm not on Grassy Seed Dengo
Haven't been for a min

[rustic mountain]

oh ok yea i think i played vs one of those

[bold geode]

Idk what I wanna do
I'm thinking about a few things for GC

[rustic mountain]

tera fire i think it was

[molten oasis]

i like that i can protet gambit infront of annihilape

[polar canyon]

I'm still on the weezing agenda

[forest arrow]

Mines grass

[molten oasis]

if i go to a regional im playing sd gambit fs

i've come to love that set

[rustic mountain]

ok luka

we know hes pulling up w/ gambit haha

[forest arrow]

https://pokepast.es/e82486a2edc43348

[bold geode]

That set is fire

[forest arrow]

Did the team look like this

[molten oasis]

bruh

[bold geode]

Honestly y'know what I would've liked more
If we ended off on like D or F

[rustic mountain]

i like it

[molten oasis]

D???

D was fucking ass

[forest arrow]

Is that the team you faced or was it something different?

[rustic mountain]

yea they can keep reg d

[bold geode]

Thing is with D like
Yeah sure it was ass but you have to consider that the whole format was rushed

[forest arrow]

F would’ve been amazing

[bold geode]

It never had time to properly develop

[rustic mountain]

nah team i faced was like gambit ape stuff

[forest arrow]

ahh okay

[rustic mountain]

coaching

[bold geode]

I would like to see how D would go if it actually had time to develop properly

[molten oasis]

did it need to develop? all it needed was fckn tornshifu

[bold geode]

There was other things tbh

[rustic mountain]

there was but it wasnt a good format to me

[forest arrow]

Fair, coaching is a good thought

[bold geode]

But I think it could've done better if it actually had time

[forest arrow]

just thought I wanted Cc/RF more

[rustic mountain]

reg e was reg d but better

[forest arrow]

Reg D was Tornshifu land lmao

[bold geode]

Not saying the format would be perfect if it had more time
But it would be better

[molten oasis]

maybe a little better

i'd be good with more reg f if anything

[rustic mountain]

well yea u give any format enough time its gna get better/adapt to the oppressive meta threats but still

[bold geode]

Yeah
And I would've liked to see it be a bit better honestly
Also Wisp was strong in D but no one used it

But like
F would be better imo still

I didn't appreciate F enough

[molten oasis]

i loved f

[forest arrow]

F is where I took a break cause I came back at the tail end of it when Bolt Balance was the thing

[bold geode]

Actually @rustic mountain Give us F back, I wanna see Articuno again

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2426558908-lx6wqxbjctijopbj0yj9atjauohi2papw

lowkey this team cool

[molten oasis]

real the articuno team was cool

[bold geode]

It was sick and my last team had an auto win MU for it lol

[rustic mountain]

very cool team

ig thats one benefit to having battle gimmicks, articuno wouldve never won a regional otherwise

[bold geode]

Yeah
Y'ALL THINK I HAD FREE GAMES WITH ZAM CSR
NAH

That MU was cake

[bold geode]

I remember Nicholas Donnelly being pissed at the game cuz someone at the event who went against Nikhil with his BM Ursa team said that the Ursaluna missed a Blood Moon on the Articuno

[molten oasis]

huh?

oh its not an active evasion increase so it minds eye doesnt work, right

[bold geode]

Yeah no so it's not a straight up evasion boost
So basically how the game codes it is it doesn't actually mess with the accuracy or evasion stats of mons but it tampers with the actual moves accuracy

[molten oasis]

weird ability

[short quiver]

if we get a mega skarmory can all 100 mega stat points go into SpD and Spe so skarmory is actually usable

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 227: Skarmory

Types

Steel/Flying

Abilities

Keen Eye, Sturdy, Weak Armor (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

65/80/140/40/70/70

Total

465

Sableye version 4.28.2

[bold geode]

It's like one of those fine print interactions that probably comes up cuz they didn't account for Snow Cloak when making Minds Eye

[molten oasis]

it doesnt even have a good attack stat

[short quiver]

body press 🥺

[molten oasis]

why not just use aggron

[short quiver]

because i like skarmory

[rustic mountain]

y not just not

[molten oasis]

yeah?

[short quiver]

skarmory is my favorite gen 2 mon

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

lmao

[short quiver]

i have a favorite mon for each generation

skarmory =gen 2

[rustic mountain]

wb gen 11

[molten oasis]

I like the one with fake out and follow me

that one's pretty cool

[short quiver]

the quadrupedal grass electric ocelot we will never get

[molten oasis]

lol

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

they gotta do it eventually

[rustic mountain]

wait

do we not have grass/electric?

[molten oasis]

yes

hisui electrode

[rustic mountain]

right

[dense latch]

and rotom mow

[short quiver]

hisuin electrode and mower rotom

[rustic mountain]

they gave goated typings to sub par mons (ghost/normal to hisuan zoroark and electric/grass to hisuan electrode)

[short quiver]

i want a grass electric 2-stage QUADREPEDEL ocelot starter

[short quiver]

did you just insult hisuin zoroark

[dense latch]

i honestly can't believe rotom heat is the only electric fire type i feel like that typing has the potential for a cool mon

[molten oasis]

eh

[rustic mountain]

competitively? yes

[molten oasis]

i hope we see a good grass electric type

its a really cool typing

[short quiver]

can it be a starter this time

[molten oasis]

why does it need to be starter?

[short quiver]

yk just cuz you said that im using it

[rustic mountain]

i think the main benefit is that u have levitate so ur not subjected to a 4x weakness in ground but yea depending on the mon and ability/stats maybe could be interesting

[forest arrow]

Ground fairy would be sick

[short quiver]

because i want it to be a 2-stage specifically

[molten oasis]

the miraidon wall

[rustic mountain]

gl

[molten oasis]

it doesn't need to be a starter to be a 2 stage evolution

[short quiver]

i can play reg h with it

[dense latch]

ground fairy has some insane offensive synergy

[rustic mountain]

yea

[short quiver]

yeah but it would give us an actual good grass starter for the first time in years 😑

[real prairie]

Assume this has already been shared?

[forest arrow]

Goated typing for sure Gen 10 pls?

[molten oasis]

wdym we got rillaboom and meowscarada was relevant once

[rustic mountain]

they r gna give ground/fairy to a mon w/ like tinkaton lvl stats

[dense latch]

yea

[forest arrow]

And not be shite

[forest arrow]

You already know

TPCi lol

[dense latch]

didn't know about the sign up periods though so thanks

[rustic mountain]

they kinda made up for scovillian flopping by giving us hearthflame but still

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2426569818

[forest arrow]

Yeah for sure

[stone trellis]

Actual peak.

[short quiver]

did i cook

[stone trellis]

Yeah, you cooked.

I'm having so much fun with this team, I'm not gonna lie.

[short quiver]

see unconventional isnt always bad you just gotta know what to do with it

[dense latch]

i'm hoping to compete this season so i need to actually play gcs now

[stone trellis]

It's so bad that I actually have to go complete monkey in order to win.

[short quiver]

well considering your win con is critting your own partner😭

[stone trellis]

I love low ladder.

[foggy lodge]

Erik we have to cook with the group

[dense latch]

a reg h gc sounds horrible

[foggy lodge]

It is

[forest arrow]

Gambit protect ape is something to consider

[dense latch]

but we do what we gotta do

[short quiver]

id go to a tournament if i was slightly better at making reads on my opponents. making reads is my biggest competitive struggle

[foggy lodge]

I went through the results of the reg H GCs

[dense latch]

i can't wait to play 30 mausape teams which all do different shit

[foggy lodge]

There's nothing innovative lmfao

The craziest thing I found was like scarf A9

[dense latch]

i might just go w the tang team and ball out from there hopefully

[real prairie]

V1TAM1NS

Mystery gift code for 2x each vitamin

[molten oasis]

wild

[short quiver]

ayo??

[dense latch]

would be my first gc so i'm half excited half scared

[foggy lodge]

I'm completely scared

[stone trellis]

If I do end up playing the GC, I will 100% be bringing this team.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2426576669

[real prairie]

You'd think it'd be easier to fit Ludicolo into a reg H team but NOPE

[stone trellis]

It's so ass that every good turn feels like a major victory.

[solid frigate]

I am running it back with Froggy

https://tenor.com/view/greninja-cut-night-slash-greninja-uses-cut-greninja-uses-night-slash-gif-26902580

[dense latch]

i saw that a greninja team won a pretty big reg h limitless tour

[foggy lodge]

Bullet seed loaded dice click into Archa

Just play it pretending as it isn't a worse Rillaboom lol

[dense latch]

at least it's fast right

[solid frigate]

And hard reliant on swift swim

[bold geode]

Like Final Gambit?

[foggy lodge]

Sash ape is good

Also lum berry or stuff like that

[forest arrow]

Yes

Sash, Lum, Sitrus

[short quiver]

if only delphox was as good in vgc as she is in unite

sure expanding force psyspam is right there but like

armorouge is right there

to do the same thing

[solid frigate]

oh no she is usable in Reg H

[short quiver]

in unite shes a big dog

mostly because in Unite fire spin is fucking broken

[short quiver]

as a psyspam mon correct

[bold geode]

Yeah
Which is why you'd use Delphox
For fast Psyspam

[short quiver]

🙂

[deft crescent]

this is a very refined team that I'm probably gonna enter the grand challenge with thoughts? https://pokepast.es/3de329d1e11a1af4

[short quiver]

what would the standard team for it be

[bold geode]

That
Male Indeedee Sneasler + 3

[short quiver]

and the last 3 are just optional slots? 😭

[bold geode]

If you go on Labmaus you'll find a bunch of results in H

[lean ridge]

I believe flutter is banned in reg H

[foggy lodge]

Half your team is unusable in reg H xd

[bold geode]

They change a decent bit but if you use Delphox then those 3 I mentioned are like always there

[deft crescent]

it is?

[bold geode]

But Labmaus should show results
Hell I think if you scroll enough, Cloverbells did a video on it

[foggy lodge]

Legendaries and paradox Pokémon are banned

[next stump]

^

[deft crescent]

oh shit

[short quiver]

hmmmm

[foggy lodge]

Dozogiri Indeedee Sneasler Archa Pelipper

🙂

[bold geode]

They can also benefit from TW mons, other strong Spatkers, but also other things that can hit Incineroar hard like Basculegion

Actually lemme dig

[short quiver]

who tf is cloverbells

[foggy lodge]

A youtuber

Rock slide Dnite can cook btw

[short quiver]

okay scrol on youtube or did someone post it here in chat

[foggy lodge]

Anti Volc tech that is unpreppable in bo1

[short quiver]

what if i USE volc

[foggy lodge]

Do it ig idk

[short quiver]

id use slither wing if it wasn’t banned

[bold geode]

https://pokepast.es/adeeb07dfe81e8f0
I got second in an online tour with this though it's probably a bit outdated more than likely
But yeah look on Cloverbells channel

[short quiver]

murkrow the goat

[foggy lodge]

Cloak Murkrow?

[short quiver]

maybe for fake out? 😭

[bold geode]

Idr exactly why
Think it was for Fake Out

[short quiver]

id just straight up use your team but i want snarl on somebody

spread spA drop dark move is kinda good if i say so myself

[forest arrow]

I mean you could run snarl on arch but you’d be sacrificing Draco Meteor or flash cannon

[short quiver]

i could drop draco and put Gleam on Delphox

[next stump]

gleam will be worse than STAB

[short quiver]

but then to hit dragons i just gotta hope eforce is enough

[next stump]

it will be, you’re not one shotting anything with gleam

you will 2 hit KO with expanding

[dense latch]

won't eforce do similar if not more damage to dragons

[forest arrow]

yeah cause it’s STAB

[dense latch]

taking into account stab + the psychic terrain boosts

[forest arrow]

Yes

[short quiver]

+tera psychic? 🤔

[forest arrow]

+helping hand

[dense latch]

there's really no reason to run gleam unless you're scared of hydreigon for some reason

[next stump]

I ran tera psychic last time I used Delphox

Incredibly strong if you can position it well

It’s a shame that both its abilities are trash

[short quiver]

cloverbell made it a rain team

[dense latch]

252 SpA Life Orb Delphox Expanding Force (120 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Garchomp in Psychic Terrain: 134-160 (73.2 - 87.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Delphox Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Garchomp: 94-112 (51.3 - 61.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[short quiver]

interesting

[dense latch]

it's like way more lmao

[short quiver]

i like the idea of basculegion ngl

[dense latch]

even without psychic terrain eforce matches the damage dgleam does since the latter gets double target damage reduction

[dense latch]

wish it had magic guard or something that still fit

[forest arrow]

Magic guard fits so well

It’s literally a magician

[short quiver]

its ability steals items from defeated opponents right

as long as delphox isnt holding an item

[dense latch]

not defeated opponents

[tiny karma]

Ability: Magician

If this Pokemon has no item, it steals the item off a Pokemon it hits with an attack. Does not affect Doom Desire and Future Sight.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[next stump]

soooooo bad

[dense latch]

so long as it hits a pokemon it'll steal it

[next stump]

like maybe they were thinking focus sash sets

[dense latch]

i guess like

[next stump]

But does magician fail if it’s a spread move?

[short quiver]

that COULD be good but its a level of gimmicky even I myself dont want to mess with

[next stump]

or just pick a random target

[dense latch]

psychic seed could be an option but eh

[stone trellis]

You helped me make a team with Krookodile, 0 Attack Smeargle and Salamence. Shut the fuck up.

[next stump]

blaze is situationally useful like I remember OHKOing an Archaludon with a blaze boosted life orb heat wave

not sure the calc on it

[short quiver]

yeah but what consumable item do i even give delphox 😭

[next stump]

wait actually maybe I was tera fire… cause I was heat wave/overheat/expanding/protect

[short quiver]

isnt that standard (the moves i mean)

[next stump]

yeah just can’t remember what tera I used

[short quiver]

im probably gonna tera psychic

[stone trellis]

252 SpA Life Orb Blaze Tera Fire Delphox Heat Wave vs. 252 HP / 76 SpD Assault Vest Archaludon in Sun: 185-218 (93.9 - 110.6%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

https://tenor.com/view/flight-flight-not-laughing-flightreacts-flight-reacts-flightreacts-not-laughing-gif-6356142083741775471

[short quiver]

gyatt dayum

[forest arrow]

Probably was Tera fire unless Dillon had sun too

[stone trellis]

Goddamn Lois, this is just like the time I ran the calcs for Choice Band Tera Water Surging Strikes in rain.

[short quiver]

is there a reason to run both heat wave and ft on delphox

instead of some form of coverage

[stone trellis]

Spread and single-target move.

[dense latch]

single target vs double target
heat wave can miss
delphox doesn't really need additional coverage

[next stump]

In general, class cannon pokemon don’t really run coverage

[dense latch]

you can run tera fighting tera blast if you want

[short quiver]

thats an interesting idea

[next stump]

Coverage is great if you’re choice or assault vest but if you’re something like Life Orb, STAB usually equates to more damage

[short quiver]

im considering using Av on pipebomb

ik for a FACT i want Snarl on it

[bold geode]

Delphox just uses Blaze
It's kinda frail so like
You're not really gonna be getting in Blaze range too much and Magician really has no uses

You don't play Delphox for the ability, just for the sheer damage

[forest arrow]

It has protect because of power herb/electro shot you would need rain for AV arch

[short quiver]

and cuz its a cool fox 🙂

[short quiver]

i could add rain but it hurts delphox if i need to hit a fire move for some reason

hm

[dense latch]

why do you want snarl so bad it's only fine on arch

[bold geode]

Also yeah AV would be better on Rain teams
The one I showed had Power Herb Sturdy to do damage quick
AV Arch really only works on Rain teams that honestly really only work around it

[short quiver]

i really like that move

[dense latch]

fitting it in is just handicapping the rest of your team

[bold geode]

AV Arch requires you to build around it

[short quiver]

so no, got it

the centerpoint of the team is delphox

[next stump]

Delphox will want a very clear Incineroar counter on the team

By far its worst matchup

[short quiver]

sneasler

[next stump]

That’s not bad, especially if you’re white herb

I think Annihilape could be better

[short quiver]

psyseed

what move could i trade for tera blast if i go for tera fighting tera blast

im not gonna im just asking

[dense latch]

it's usually flamethrower

[short quiver]

isnt eforce like 80/100

[dense latch]

it's boosted to an effective 160 in psychic terrain

[short quiver]

160 bp spread stab?

[dense latch]

base 80 + extra damage from the properties of the move + the regular psychic terrain boost

[short quiver]

wouldn’t stab make it 240?

[next stump]

80 x 1.5 (STAB) x 1.3 (terrain) = 156BP

[short quiver]

ah

[next stump]

oh wait

I forgot a part

it's 120BP when terrain is active

[dense latch]

yea

[next stump]

so that's before STAB and terrain too

so 120 x 1.5 x 1.3

[dense latch]

234 bp

[short quiver]

i was so close

i said 240

[dense latch]

yea i messed up there bc i thought it was a 33% boost on psychic terrain rather than 30%

[real prairie]

Leaning on it's SpAtk is much better than it's Atk

If I'm running side fire into Arch, it's pop bomb

[short quiver]

d’you think i could put like umbreon or sylveon on this team somewhere

[deft crescent]

https://pokepast.es/aad202e3a299e2a9 thoughts for grand challenge?

[next stump]

Why focus sash amoonguss? other than that it looks okay

Ludi is pretty rarely used but not terrible

[deft crescent]

would rocky helm sus be better?

[next stump]

yeah helmet or sitrus

and give the sash to peli

[deft crescent]

no

this team is years old, and I found damp rock is more useful than sash

[next stump]

how can the team be years old when the format was around for 4 months

[deft crescent]

well the basic idea is

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/giggles-gif-26049387

[deft crescent]

I've always had peli grimm arch and mostly amoonguss on it

[next stump]

play some reg H ladder on showdown with it and see if it still holds up

[deft crescent]

I already know it holds up in reg I cause I got to masterball with this team

[real prairie]

Ah how the opinions have changed since i first joined here a couple years back 🤣 I have rejuvenated Ludi reputation ♥️

[next stump]

master ball is the first stepping stone, no offense meant at all but it really doesn't mean much when it comes to the grand/global challenge

that's probably like 1530 elo equivalent in the GC

[foggy lodge]

Damp rock is terrible

[lofty tartan]

That sounds about correct.

[real prairie]

Depends on the rank in masterball tbf

[next stump]

sure, but high rank masterball probably wouldn't be phrased like that

[real prairie]

True

[foggy lodge]

Not only for a meta where all 4 weathers are used but also for a GC where you either want a consistent item or something to catch off guard people, damp rock just doesn't give you neither of those

[lofty tartan]

It's also really the truth that a simple switch-in completely invalidates Damp Rock

[foggy lodge]

VGC matches just aren't that long to make use of that item

[lofty tartan]

But what about my Terrain Extender.

Ask me about my Terrain Extender

[foggy lodge]

8 turns leftovers

[tiny karma]

Item: Terrain Extender

Holder's use of Electric/Grassy/Misty/Psychic Terrain lasts 8 turns instead of 5.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[foggy lodge]

huh

[solid frigate]

man this item sucks

[foggy lodge]

Nah but like what mon would want it even

[lofty tartan]

Not all items are made for VGC

[foggy lodge]

Indeedee¿

[solid frigate]

absolutely none honestly

[foggy lodge]

Yeh

[solid frigate]

Miraidon and Rillaboom have switching moves
Indeedee has better items

[lofty tartan]

[foggy lodge]

Light clay for example works because it gives you bulk and teams built around screens just have that extra bulk to actually make use of it

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/wooosh-dumb-gif-18787851

[solid frigate]

yes i don't get jokes most of the time

[lofty tartan]

Well stop that

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/crown-tundra-ct-pokemon-galarian-zapdos-galarian-articuno-gif-18883529

[lofty tartan]

[short quiver]

galarian articuno my boii

all 3 galarian birds are pretty good. zapdos is literally just a chocobo which sucks but eh its color is cool

[foggy lodge]

My favourite is Goltres

[molten oasis]

Gapdos is my favorite

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2426639318-5kxdjq7galrsx2tcfmp727ye8hr36grpw

gang what is a better 6th than dnite lmao

https://pokepast.es/f2a2b97039b6cec9

[molten oasis]

you wanna drop the dnite?

hm

[chrome knot]

yes

[forest arrow]

P2 Ursa liked Fighting types

Flamigo, Sneasler

[molten oasis]

was gonna say sneasler or that

maaybe prima but idk how well that fits here

[bold geode]

Why tho

[bold geode]

What you doing bitch

[foggy lodge]

Use this for the criteria

[molten oasis]

Still don’t think sneasler belongs there but yeah

[forest arrow]

Hydrei and Yanmega?

Damn I’ve never seen those variants

[foggy lodge]

Yanmega is because of Wolfey's one

[molten oasis]

Yep

[forest arrow]

Oh yeah I forgot wolfeys team Nevermind but Hydrei?

[bold geode]

You see Nehzzy's comment on that

[foggy lodge]

Hydrei helps Dengo

[molten oasis]

Hydrei and dengo have perfect typing synergy

[forest arrow]

Ahh true

[tiny karma]

Gholdengo [Steel/Ghost]

Immune

Fighting, Normal, Poison

Resists (0.25x)

Bug

Resists (0.5x)

Dragon, Fairy, Flying, Grass, Ice, Psychic, Rock, Steel

Neutral damage

Electric, Stellar, Water

Weak (2x)

Dark, Fire, Ghost, Ground

Type Notes

Ghost-types are immune to effects that prevent Switching.
Steel-types cannot be Poisoned.
Steel-types take no damage from Sandstorm.

Sableye version 4.28.2

Hydreigon [Dark/Dragon]

Immune

Psychic

Resists (0.5x)

Dark, Electric, Fire, Ghost, Grass, Water

Neutral damage

Flying, Ground, Normal, Poison, Rock, Steel, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Bug, Dragon, Fighting, Ice

Weak (4x)

Fairy

Sableye version 4.28.2

[forest arrow]

Damn perfect synergy actually

[dense latch]

insane reply that is actually kinda true lmao

[lofty tartan]

Ordering pizza right now, and raiding in Pokemon Go

Max Finale Raid weekend.

[forest arrow]

I just ate pizza

Great minds think alike

[lofty tartan]

[dense latch]

sneasler being lawful good is crazy it should def be on the other end of the chart

[lofty tartan]

Chaotic Neutral

[forest arrow]

Vivi is just that gal, she did nothing wrong 🥹

Make her the lawful good

[molten oasis]

I played a lot of it reg h 1

I think the synergy is awesome but for the most part the teams I made with it felt lacking

Now I play chomp a9 gambit instead so

[rustic mountain]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2426666322-bm0yix16t0ylroin3uggyxv5nbxqm9apw
top 250

wen beat up strats only get u so far

[molten oasis]

Nice

[bold geode]

Where from and what kind

[lofty tartan]

Local joint called Orono House of Pizza. Bacon, onion, green pepper, and a cheese pizza for the kiddo

[bold geode]

Not a fan of green peppers but local joint sounds gas

[lofty tartan]

It's 🔥

[wind sparrow]

Hi

Guys you wanna see smth

anyone?

Guys?

https://tenor.com/view/sad-hamster-sadhamster-hammy-hampter-popcat-gif-6561088576429774594

[dense latch]

what is it?

[next stump]

https://tenor.com/view/attention-notice-me-please-notice-me-need-attention-notice-me-senpai-gif-19829808

[wind sparrow]

https://pokepast.es/dc4d8609a0326022

i made it

idk what to add for the 6th one

any ideas?

[dense latch]

with all due respect

i wish i didn't ask

what format is this for

[wind sparrow]

double ubers

[dense latch]

i doubt anyone here knows anything about the metagame of that format

but i can't see a shell bell pokemon or a reflect archaludon being good in any

also wouldn't you have access to restricteds and stuff in doubles ubers

[wind sparrow]

Thx for feedback

ima go modify it a bit

[dense latch]

https://munchstats.com/gen9doublesubers/1760/Incineroar maybe check this out

i doubt any of the pokemon in that team will fair well in doubles ubers considering the power level there

https://pokepast.es/2174bd16fb05afce like im looking through the smogon forums and this is an actual team you can build

which is insane

spam restricteds with some semblance of synergy and you're good

[left bobcat]

HYDRATION

[wind sparrow]

If deoxys is the frickin dna pokemon why doesnt he know every tm?

I cant have close combat on attack deoxys ughhh im so pissed rn

[next stump]

just so you know adrian, doubles uber is a pokemon showdown tier that doesn’t exist in the game itself. are you playing on showdown or in game?

[wind sparrow]

showdown

[next stump]

okay cool, just making sure

[wind sparrow]

I wonder who thought giving a pokemon a very high speed and some of the highest attack stats in the game was a good idea

That guy must be evil asf or he was high

[chrome knot]

ive been all around the world on p2 tn and I do nawt think there is a good 6th mon

[nocturne holly]

Why am I seeing so many offensive weezing

Weezings only fun to use not play against 😞

[next stump]

reg H weezing can dish out damage

[rustic mountain]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2426723415-fq9y7bdc7ymimuvbxdji06brkjupgk7pw so satisfying beating dozo players

also top 250 again

much better wr on this alt

[wind sparrow]

Does NU mean a pokemon is booty

[shadow wind]

You’re asking a bunch of lumberjacks how to catch fish

[wind sparrow]

Uhhh

am i right

[dense latch]

kind of

it's not the lowest tier but it's not good either

[rustic mountain]

almost top 100 just broke thru 1500s

[solid frigate]

Bro is cooking with the rain

[rustic mountain]

👨‍🍳

[solid frigate]

I might cook something for this format lol

[rustic mountain]

oh god

[solid frigate]

It’s still a rain team for GC anyway

[serene moth]

Any thoughts on my Switch collection?

[short quiver]

bro singlehandedly kept a nintendo employee employed

[serene moth]

I am happy about that

[short quiver]

🙂

its okay i have almost every switch pokemon game im missing lets go pikachu and shining pearl

[serene moth]

Thats my 3DS Collection

[short quiver]

i sold a lot of my 3ds games 🤷‍♂️

[serene moth]

DS Collection

[short quiver]

my ds collection consists of ninja gaiden dragon sword and pokemon mystery dungeon (i forget which one)

[serene moth]

There are a few Mysterie Dungeon Games for the DS

[short quiver]

i think its something something darkness

i have majoras mask and ocarina of time for the 3ds as well as beyblade evolution and pokemon USUM (both games)

[left bobcat]

358/2 days 😢

[serene moth]

[short quiver]

oh and i also have scribblenaut

[polar canyon]

Competitive game collecting discussion

[serene moth]

[short quiver]

very competitive discussion see

[polar canyon]

You guys got any suggestions for reg h I don't think I actually have any favorites for it

I like sinistcha but that's about it

[short quiver]

im doing delphox psyspam

[solid frigate]

Archaludon Rain is good with Sini

[polar canyon]

I think offensive sinistcha is really fun with the spread draining move recovery

It just adds up and makes it live forever if it can dish off matcha gotcha consistently after a nasty plot

Even good chip healing on resisted hits

I could do some form of trick room

[short quiver]

+big root

https://tenor.com/view/meowscarada-pokemon-flower-trick-meowscarada-uses-flower-trick-gif-14559974334310011622

[solid frigate]

I mean Archaludon Rain is literally one of the best Archetype for Sini

Also since the move is spread you don’t need Big Root to help healing

[short quiver]

i know but it would make it funnier

you wanna kill me? THATS TOO DAMN BAD

[solid frigate]

You already invest on bulk anyway

[short quiver]

Yeah but like

matcha gotcha spread plus bug root=some wild healing

i cant wait to play the blueberry academy dlc again that is the most fun ive ever had in a pokemon game

PLA>SV indigo disk dlc>Alpha sapphire>>>every other game

[dense latch]

it's not that big of a boost

it's 65% healing rather than 50% of the damage dealt

you're better off using consistent healing from sitrus

[foggy lodge]

We talked too much about the 205 speed ties but don't talk enough about the 156 ones

[short quiver]

so those are the reg h speed tiers?

[dense latch]

which pokemon hit 156

harc, annihilape and what else

[charred fable]

Hello, i am searching for someone who can trade me the violet exclusive pokemon

[short quiver]

what even are the violet exclusives 😭

ive played both games and never payed all that much attention

besides ceruledge

[dense latch]

#trading_sv

[charred fable]

Oh, sorry

[dense latch]

all good :)) just letting you know where you can find those easier

[short quiver]

id help if i even knew what the exclusives were

[dense latch]

all the future paradox mons for starters

i know dragapult is one too

[short quiver]

ik ceruledge

[foggy lodge]

Flamigo

[dense latch]

o yea

[foggy lodge]

Typhlosion and Indeedee Male too I think

[short quiver]

indeedee is that fast?

[dense latch]

typh is 161 with timid

so is indeedee

[foggy lodge]

Oh nvm yea

Those 95

[polar canyon]

Eiscue

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 157: Typhlosion-Hisui

Types

Fire/Ghost

Abilities

Blaze, Frisk (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

73/84/78/119/85/95

Total

534

Base Species

Typhlosion

Sableye version 4.28.2

[short quiver]

its that slow??? 😱

[polar canyon]

I got violet for eiscue

[short quiver]

penguin boi

its funny that its ability just doesnt work on a special move

[polar canyon]

Had that guy in my playthrough team

My goat

My favorite pokemon to not be cut out of the gen 9 dex

Too bad it absolutely sucks in comp

[short quiver]

my favorites are (almost) all in the game

just missing Liepard 😔

[polar canyon]

Belly drum eiscue is a funny singles gimmick and that's it

[short quiver]

oh i lie

[polar canyon]

It was also better in gen 8 when it could reset the ability with max hailstorm

[short quiver]

pheromosa also isnt in the game

Ninetales Skarmory Absol Glaceon Liepard Meowstic Pheromosa Cinderace Ogerpon

cinderace and hatterene are interchangeable

and so is ogerpon and meowscarada

[left bobcat]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2426760234

[short quiver]

kingdra sweep is crazy

[left bobcat]

Swift swim lorb rain boosted muddy water is nasty

[short quiver]

🙃

[left bobcat]

https://pokepast.es/faf81b6f41dc6b4b

gotta make a few adjustments

[polar canyon]

Cool username

Is tera stellar electro shot meaningful for anything with the 1.2x boost

[left bobcat]

Eh not really just hyper offensive overall

[nocturne holly]

Blursa annoying af

Why is ground so good now

moreso it’s just good into my team

[short quiver]

a lot of the big dogs in reg h dont like ground types all that much

[forest arrow]

Ground has always been good

If not one of the best

[dense latch]

normal/ground coverage is busted

more so with blursa's ability

[short quiver]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DNqoV-bP1Wb/?igsh=NDQwbndsdnliN3Jt

duskullbf

welcome back reg H 🫡 #nintendo #nintendoswitch #pokemonscarletandviolet #pokemon #foryou #pokemoncommunity #pokemonfan

Likes

410

Instagram

we love reg h in this house

[brave hazel]

Yeah this thing was a singles machine back in sword/she

It’s really mid in singles this meta

I have to buy sword again so I can get cally

Just annoying buying the game just for that

[short quiver]

you need a calyrex?

[cosmic patio]

what evs should I put on ogerpon that work with every mask

[dense latch]

no such thing

no ev spread will work for all ogerpon forms

the problem is cornerstone who wants max atk max speed generally

[foggy lodge]

252 atk 252 speed🔥

But yeah each mask wants one thing or another

Specially with the tera of each one giving a different stat boost

[warped mason]

Would u guys say kyogre is better paired with zacian or zamazenta right now?

[solid frigate]

Calyrex Ice>Zama>Zacian

[rustic mountain]

way to crush a guys dreams

[short quiver]

yo chat will one of you pick a type for me to nuzlocke my next Shield play through with 🙃

[woven pelican]

Normal

[short quiver]

uhhhhh hold please while i look at the list of swsh normal types

[molten oasis]

obstagoon!

[woven pelican]

you do get Obstagoon so that can be your ace

braviary, Heliolisk, Drampa, Snorlax

Diggersby too

[short quiver]

hmmm i wouldnt be allowed to evolve the eevee i dont think if i get an eevee

[woven pelican]

quite diverse if you ask me

are you including the dlc normal types too btw

[short quiver]

yea

[woven pelican]

okay yeah you can use eevee as your gmax for now

[rustic mountain]

shiny chien pao claimed

[woven pelican]

obsta doesn't have 1 so

[molten oasis]

chien poo!

[short quiver]

do i allow myself to evolve the eevee though is the question 🤔

[woven pelican]

probably no

wait do you have let's go eevee

[solid frigate]

the fabled Chien Poo

[woven pelican]

if you do just use the gift gmax eevee

[short quiver]

id bee looking at Espeon if i did

[woven pelican]

gmax eevee is kinda good

[short quiver]

oh yeah trueeeeeeeee

[woven pelican]

for a playthrough at least

[dense latch]

it's the house special

[short quiver]

i do get a free eevee

i just recently bought lets go eevee which is the cool part about that

[woven pelican]

yeah but i suggest not evolving that one since it's the only eevee you can gmax early game

which basically means you have a gmax form iirc even before the second gym

plus with obstagoon, and considering you're in shield with Alastor, you should be fine

[short quiver]

i think i do let myself evolve it late game though.

[woven pelican]

or whatever the ghost guy's name is

[molten oasis]

the eevee? no

its a normal run thats cheating

[woven pelican]

actually i think you physically can't evolve that one

[short quiver]

you have to remove the gmax from
it

[rustic mountain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xk4MjH9RZ6Y

[short quiver]

hmmm

[woven pelican]

or make your snorlax the gmax

though idk what use that would be, never used one

[tiny karma]

Move: G-Max Replenish

Power is equal to the base move's Max Move power. If this move is successful, there is a 50% chance every Pokemon on the user's side has its Berry restored, even if they have a substitute.

Type

Normal

Category

Physical

Power

10

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[woven pelican]

Power 10

[rustic mountain]

-8ball get switch 2 next week?

[gentle crag]

get switch 2 next week?
:8ball: My sources say no

[molten oasis]

-8ball get switch 2 ever?

[gentle crag]

get switch 2 ever?
:8ball: Yes

[rustic mountain]

-8ball are you lying

[gentle crag]

are you lying
:8ball: Without a doubt

[molten oasis]

-8ball switch 2 today?

[gentle crag]

switch 2 today?
:8ball: Outlook good

[rustic mountain]

lmao

[molten oasis]

MY WALLET

[short quiver]

🤷‍♂️

[woven pelican]

-8ball Drago get Switch 2 right now?

[gentle crag]

Drago get Switch 2 right now?*
:8ball: Cannot predict now

[woven pelican]

-8ball switch 2 right now?

[gentle crag]

switch 2 right now?
:8ball: Outlook not so good

[woven pelican]

okay

[short quiver]

and i get a normal type immediately with wooloo so thats cool

[molten oasis]

ok my wallet is safe

[short quiver]

never actually used dubwool i told myself i would and never did

[solid frigate]

-8ball me get Switch 2?

[gentle crag]

me get Switch 2?
:8ball: It is decidedly so

[solid frigate]

Uhhhhhhh

[rustic mountain]

im surprised there was no special dk switch 2 edition

[short quiver]

im buying a switch 2 in september