#competitive_discussion

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rustic mountain
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dug is great

polar canyon
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Not 30 minutes more like 15

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I played just a couple games

dense latch
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those indeedee m sneasler HO teams took over for a bit iirc

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they're annoying

rustic mountain
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reg h was pretty varied in what saw success

forest arrow
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Hell a Charizard won a regional

rustic mountain
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zard sun, arch rain, sneasler/indeedee, dnite balance and a few others im prolly missing

polar canyon
dense latch
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p2 ursa

polar canyon
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Wish I could remember what everything is calcd for

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Other than weezing 1 point faster than ursa for acid spray

solid frigate
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what does the boi done to you-

molten oasis
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Great.

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Can’t escape this dumbass fucking cat

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I’ll do this later when I’m not tilted

polar canyon
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No one can

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But he's waiting

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The bright side is that the dumbass cat makes it easier to fit what you do like into the team most of the time

rustic mountain
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i like hisuan arc

rustic mountain
polar canyon
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Helmet dog

forest arrow
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I honestly think Harc was better with stuff like Chien Pao

rustic mountain
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i think it jus isnt too great in reg h, i feel its a tera hog and a lot of things just dunk on it

molten oasis
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The suggestion is only ever fucking incineroar

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I’m tired of it man

rustic mountain
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damn

forest arrow
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Well sorry

polar canyon
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Do you think chien harc would work in reg j

rustic mountain
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no

forest arrow
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No

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Reg E/F

polar canyon
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Ok

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But

rustic mountain
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yea harc isnt outright bad its just format dependent

molten oasis
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I’m just done rn man, it’s all incin and I’m just tired of it

polar canyon
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You could try primarina if you're tired of seeing opposing incin

molten oasis
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There’s just not room to experiment with other fire types because of it and I find it pretty boring regardless of it getting wins

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I’ll try again tomorrow

polar canyon
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Type overlap is allowed

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Is fire even bad defensively in reg h

forest arrow
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Double intimate in a defiant heavy meta is definitely ballsy

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double fighting weak too

polar canyon
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I don't mean just harc

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Drago mentioned experimenting with fire types

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Aren't you basically only worried about like 3 pokemon when thinking about using fire types

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Correct me if I'm wrong I haven't played much reg h recently

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But like if you can get around peli primarina and garchomp

forest arrow
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I mean you can use some of the fire starters

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I think typhlo, Blaziken, and Charizard are ok

molten oasis
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Idk it’s lame I just don’t care enough right now to do anything about it

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I want a meta without incin again I’m sick of it

polar canyon
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He's here to stay for better or for worse

forest arrow
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Especially when he’s their poster child

polar canyon
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I think it's more like an unintentional poster child

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Incineroar is the face of vgc because it's good and not the opposite

polar canyon
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I feel like it's easy to forget incin and rilla are starters

molten oasis
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Fckn hate it but whatever

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I’ll just slap incin on tomorrow

polar canyon
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I've warmed up to the guy

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It does feel good to play incin

forest arrow
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Me too, Incin and Amoongus grew on me

polar canyon
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Brute bonnet on my end

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Playing reg j

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I'm kinda just like, ok with playing meta teams now

forest arrow
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well brute bonnet of course cause I play korai, but before reg I and G

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I haven’t touched J cause it’s not the format VGC is going off of for events

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fair to anyone that plays it tho

polar canyon
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Bonnet has just been my goat since reg j is littered with hard tr

forest arrow
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Yeah that magearna ice rider team

polar canyon
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Wrong reply

forest arrow
forest arrow
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I mean it was used but not to the extent that it was used with korai

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Oh okay no it’s not

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Reg H is the format they are going off of

polar canyon
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Water bonnet is good into magearna cir

polar canyon
forest arrow
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Yes

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Bonnets main thing was it being good into both horses so yeah I can see that

polar canyon
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Not as fun into mag mirai hybrid tr

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Kinda just sits there spamming rage powder when e terrain is up

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Also like cts in reg j is killing me lol

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I found a player with trick room arceus

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I lost to it because ofc I didnt know

red willow
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Eyyyyyy we made the trade Im Arceuse'd up now

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Now to just build a team that doesnt suck

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Would Arceus Chien Pao CSR Rilla Incin ???? 6th be a good start?

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Actually 3x mons weak to fighting is sussy

nocturne holly
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Rain is goated

polar canyon
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You could take advantage of that

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csr gets some fat damage

red willow
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Yeah espeed is cracked

raw arch
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im working on building around leavanny, any advice? im thinking a team with sun and tailwind

red willow
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Im thinking maybe ammoonguss or a water type for a slot

jade dust
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If frostbite was added to the main game, would ice types become too bulky?

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Given that snow boosts their defense by 50% and frostbite reduces special damage by 50% as well

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Tho ice types don’t have resistances so it might not be a big deal anyway

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Caly ice becomes a super wall

polar canyon
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Does csr get wisp?

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If not I don't think cir would get frostbite move

jade dust
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Yes

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Shadow rider gets will o wisp

polar canyon
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I never noticed that

jade dust
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Cuz nobody uses it

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Just like how they never use taunt

nocturne holly
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I think I saw it early reg g or some niche ahh set

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Or I might be tweaking

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also what is frostbite

jade dust
polar canyon
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Legends arceus reworks sleep and freeze

jade dust
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Deals damage overtime and halves special attack

jade dust
polar canyon
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If there's people who run icy wind ruination pao they'd also do frostbite pao

jade dust
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Means less attacking moves to worry about

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I’m pretty sure throat chop or ice spinner deal more damage than ruination

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Unless it’s Zama

polar canyon
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I don't get it either but I think I saw it in worlds?

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I wasn't paying attention at that moment

jade dust
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But I don’t think it’s optimal in most cases

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Chein Pao had very high attack

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And sword of ruin

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It doesn’t lack damage

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Even gets sacred sword

brave hazel
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Since flutter in my opinion is a better gengar with a better typing

Does mega gengar put her to bed ?

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 94: Gengar-Mega
Types

Ghost/Poison

Abilities

Shadow Tag

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/65/80/170/95/130

Total

600

Base Species

Gengar

solid frigate
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yep still slower than flutter mane

brave hazel
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He had good prime days

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I was gonna say scarf it

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But then I remember it needs to be holding a mega stone

solid frigate
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it doesn't matter if Flutter is slower in raw speed (If Flutter is 189 Speed bare minimum for speedcreeping roaring moon and Gengar is 200 in mega form)

You still have this thing

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92 SpA Flutter Mane Shadow Ball vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Gengar-Mega: 134-158 (99.2 - 117%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Gengar-Mega Shadow Ball vs. 156 HP / 4 SpD Flutter Mane: 132-156 (88 - 104%) -- 25% chance to OHKO

Plus Flutter Mane's Pretty much better min max spreads allows better stat invest on bulk

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meanwhile Gengar can only invest on speed and special attack anyways

brave hazel
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we think people will use mega or terra more in comp

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& in general

solid frigate
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even then Flutter Mane still beats it in a long run

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more comfortably use Icy Wind or just attack

And not to mention focus sash sets working in sun which basically makes gengar MU even worse

brave hazel
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& feel like mega don’t really change strats cause it’s just the stats of the pokemon that change

Where as terra can seriously change Strats because you’re changing a typing plus a terra boost attack

solid frigate
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This was already answered back in Gen 7 where you use Megas and Z Moves

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Tera is no different

brave hazel
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I didn’t play Gen 7 so I never got to use Z moves

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Were they pretty good ?

solid frigate
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Uhhhh I don’t think it’s balanced

short quiver
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im on a mission to get a hoenn zigzagoon

short quiver
short quiver
brave hazel
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Yooo just found a random shiny trapinch, area trap ability, never thought about it but does that affect actual battles ? Prevents switching out ?

stone trellis
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It does.

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Arena Trap prevents all grounded Pokemon (except for Ghost types) from switching out.

brave hazel
stone trellis
stone trellis
versed river
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is there a channel to ask to battle people or just this?

cyan smelt
versed river
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okie ty

foggy lodge
polar canyon
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Very impressive that people can make cute art of the ugly bastard

stone trellis
polar canyon
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For those tiny little stub feet?

stone trellis
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Yeah, why not?

polar canyon
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Can you call it a foot if it's more like a nub

stone trellis
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No idea.

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I just thought it'd be really funny.

foggy lodge
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Chien-Pao @ Assault Vest
Ability: Sword of Ruin
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 36 Def / 68 SpD / 148 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Ice Spinner
  • Sucker Punch
  • Ice Shard
  • Ruination
    This shit is wild lmao
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Full support Chien-Pao

polar canyon
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Hey I'm in reg j top 500 list

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Idk how good is that since idk how many people play it on showdown

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Probably ok I guess

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My stats aren't looking too good

polar canyon
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Made it to 1500s

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Maybe the team is good enough for cart ranked ladder

stone trellis
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What's the team?

polar canyon
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That same electabuzz one

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Told you it works

stone trellis
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Oh.

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For some reason, I confused you with a guy from the MoxieBoosted server who was talking about building a Terapagos-Zarude team.

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The thing about Terapagos is that it's like Groudon, it's kind of a bum but it can become 50 times better when you put it next to something strong.

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But when you put it next to the Jungle Bros' favorite meal, its fraudulent qualities begin to show more and more.

polar canyon
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I think I finally found the perish song arceus

stone trellis
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Do you have pivoting moves aside from Volt Switch?

polar canyon
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No

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Wish I could have fit more in the team without giving away other things but it is what it is

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Honesty I haven't even been using volto switch now that you point it out

stone trellis
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You might want to keep it.

polar canyon
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Just in case kind of deal ig

stone trellis
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Do you have any specific mons on your team that eat Arceus for lunch?

polar canyon
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Like koraidon if it doesn't tera

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And csr if it's tera ghost

stone trellis
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That's good.

polar canyon
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It's still tricky to get good positioning tho

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If you want another look

stone trellis
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I want to run this on my Switch, but I traded my low Attack IV Calyrex away.

real prairie
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@chrome knot you convinced me...

Early unrendered sketch of my Regulation I team I'm currently using on Ladder

chrome knot
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CUTEEEEEE

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ludi looks & pon look so sillyyyyyy

real prairie
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Using a mirror herb as a fan 🤣

stone trellis
polar canyon
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Is that a mirror herb?

stone trellis
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Yes.

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He literally said it was one four messages ago.

real prairie
polar canyon
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Ok mr math

stone trellis
polar canyon
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I think clear amulet as a necklace is cute

real prairie
polar canyon
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I thought it was more like a little trinket with a band attached

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Like a wristband or something

stone trellis
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It's called an "amulet".

real prairie
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😭

polar canyon
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Amulet not equals necklace

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I think

real prairie
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But it's common

stone trellis
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I don't know, I feel like it won't look that good on your arm.

polar canyon
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I mean the item art doesn't even look like it's big enough for a wristband

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More like a keychain

real prairie
polar canyon
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I want a clear amulet keychain now

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It would be funny if it hangs from the big tall spike on glastriers head on cir

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Realistically I think it would just be levitating because calyrex can do that effortlessly

stone trellis
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I need to get back to doing that drawing.

real prairie
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You lot inspired me

stone trellis
stone trellis
red willow
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Am I tripping or did I read that there is a gimmicky strategy to kill tastugiri with toxic orb inside dozo then flamigo can get costar buff? Everything about it sounds incorrect lol

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Wouldnt the buff go away if tatsu faints since its his ability giving the stat buff

lean ridge
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It’s true

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It requires basically KOing half your team though

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The strategy is to start with final gambit ape and toxic orb tatsugiri and use final gambit on ur tatsu + endure with tatsugiri

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Then when u bring in the dondozo, tatsu will faint the next turn and u can bring in the flamingo

polar canyon
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Which is really funny when you use follow me

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It doesn't have to be final gambit

red willow
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Okay so youre down 2 mons to get 2 buffed mons

polar canyon
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Honestly you could do it with miraidon volt switch

red willow
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Is it worth? Lol

polar canyon
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It's more of a gimmick

lean ridge
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I think with a restricted ur better off using psych up on ur dondozo with calyrex

polar canyon
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You can do it with switching moves too tho so that you don't sacrifice a whole mon

lean ridge
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Calyrex ice with +2 in everything seems unkillable

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With leftovers and leech seed

polar canyon
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It also seems incredibly lame but if it wins it wins

lean ridge
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Which is why the ape was usually used

polar canyon
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And redirection

lean ridge
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Redirection wasn’t the end of the world for the ape since u just get a free kill then u can play normal dondozo stall

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But yea with volt switch it could be a problem

stone trellis
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Jesus Christ, why are there zero 3D models of Ursaluna?

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The only ones I can find are for Minecraft.

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And Bloodmoon.

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I DON'T WANT TO DRAW BM MOTHERFUCKER

stone trellis
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Update #120000: I finished Lunala and James' Brute Bonnet.

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And yes, it looking like a Sith Lord was intentional.

stone trellis
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Thanks.

rustic mountain
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his lunala was shiny?

lost sun
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any news on champions

rustic mountain
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other then wat we got the other day?

lost sun
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idk what that was

rustic mountain
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vgc is moving to champions in 2026

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first format will include megas

lost sun
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nice

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hopefully the new ones aren't too busted

rustic mountain
dull ibex
rustic mountain
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yes

red willow
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Wow ho oh has good stats why do I never see it

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4x weak to rock maybe?

molten oasis
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130 attack without a way to boost it is pretty meh

solid frigate
molten oasis
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for a restricted

stone trellis
stone trellis
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And it never has been.

rustic mountain
solid frigate
rustic mountain
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yea old restricteds just got hard power crept, only ones that are still relevant are gdon and ogre

spiral ridge
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cant wait for next game to introduce new rain restricted GardeSip

rustic mountain
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lol

stone trellis
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They won't.

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Kyogre's a special attacker, they love them.

rustic mountain
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wheres the love for reshiram, mewtwo, kyruem and all the rest of the bad sp atker restricteds

stone trellis
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Kyurem-White has its own niche.

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It's literally one setup move away from being actually good.

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Make Ice Burn Ice-type Meteor Beam and make Kyurem 10 points faster, then we're talking.

solid frigate
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like he needs a break from all the backlifting in gen 9 for the gen 3 restricteds

stone trellis
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Just buff Groudon.

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Oh yeah, physical attacker.

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(I know Primal Groudon's a thing, but Pdon is mixed so shut the fuck up)

spiral ridge
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please no

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just fucking punching mega water balloons through protects

stone trellis
# chrome knot mega urshifu

"We're glad to announce that Single Strike and Rapid Strike Urshifu will be receiving their own Mega Evolutions! They won't need to hold an item, but they will need to have their signature moves learned in order to be able to unlock their Mega forms."

rustic mountain
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unseen first but mega, if u protect it does double damage

spiral ridge
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mega darkshifu just gets the menace ability like in MTG where to be attacked he gotta be doubled into or something

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i cant think of anything for dark

spiral ridge
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ew sick

spiral ridge
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waa

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Hi

red willow
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Dont we get that chien pao in 2 days

stone trellis
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Yeah.

bold geode
chrome knot
spiral ridge
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ill bring you cold meds

bold geode
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Can you bring me a Big Mac plz?

spiral ridge
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fuck no

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i might go out to eat friday idk

bold geode
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Fatass

chrome knot
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monke if u saw what i eat always ud call me fat

bold geode
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It can't be more than what I can eat, hit me

chrome knot
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dunno

bold geode
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Walk me thru it

chrome knot
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nuhnuh

bold geode
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Ok
You at a Chinese buffet

spiral ridge
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taco bell

bold geode
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How many plates you eating

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And I'm talking full plates, no tiny serving bullshit

chrome knot
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uh i dont eat alot

spiral ridge
chrome knot
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in one sitting, just alot throughout a day

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like i think kat and i went out for breakfast lunch and dinner on each day x)

bold geode
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Oh so basically you have girl dinner and then eat a fuckton of shit throughout

craggy dagger
bold geode
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I know so many people like that

craggy dagger
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damn y’all eat properly though-?

bold geode
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They'll eat like barely anything for dinner but then you hop on a game with them and 99% of the time all you hear is crinkle crinkle munch munch

bold geode
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Like I have actually 3 meals and maybe a snack or two
Cuz I'm fat

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Hell I stopped working out
That's my issue

dull ibex
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ew dollarmonke is here

dull ibex
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I had a dream about vgc last night

stone trellis
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I had a nightmare that Game Freak actually added these two to a game (don't ask, they're some stupidly broken paradox versions of Rayquaza I made).

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Needless to say, I was scared shitless when I woke up.

dull ibex
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I was playing sun hyper offense

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im so obessed with HO its infecting dreams

stone trellis
dull ibex
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I can't remember the team well

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other then koraidon mane

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maybe a fanmon or two

stone trellis
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Chi-Yu, maybe?

brave hazel
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Farming every pokemon in its shiny form that I’ll need for comp when champions drop. Except for legends of course

But any suggestions for any pokemon that I’ll need or that is really good

brave hazel
stone trellis
short quiver
stone trellis
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Chien-Poo is coming soon!

short quiver
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did you just slander my tiger

stone trellis
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No, it genuinely looks like snow that was stained by shit and I love it.

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Chien-Pao is my favorite of the Treasures of Ruin.

short quiver
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i like it in general

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can our next grass starter be grass electric please 😔

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 101: Electrode-Hisui
Types

Electric/Grass

Abilities

Soundproof, Static, Aftermath (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/50/70/80/80/150

Total

490

Base Species

Electrode

short quiver
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thats not a starter

craggy dagger
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it’s an electric grass type

short quiver
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i want a starter to fully evolve into a grass electric type

short quiver
craggy dagger
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but it’s an electric grass type

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i just want a fire fairy type MumeiPien

short quiver
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but neither are starters

craggy dagger
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ngl i forgot about mow rotom lol

stone trellis
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Let Miraidon burn.

short quiver
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grass electric starter please Game freak

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i beg you

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AND CAN IT BE QUADREPEDLE THIS TIME

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(the answer to that is probably no)

forest arrow
stone trellis
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Yeah, it's little more than a day away.

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If the Mystery Gift is released on August 22nd at 12 AM UTC, then it's only one day, one hour and 27 minutes away.

rustic mountain
heady onyx
spiral ridge
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God that emoji is unsettling but yes sun

heady onyx
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i just broke 1400 on reg I

stone trellis
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Congratulations!

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What team do you use?

heady onyx
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sorry reg J

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not I

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using Arceus Terapagos

stone trellis
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I thought you were using Gravity Darkrai and I was about to fry you, but that's genuinely a fun duo.

heady onyx
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arceus covers terapagos bad matchup

stone trellis
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Which is?

heady onyx
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hyperoffense

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turtle needs to ramp up

stone trellis
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Too bad Urshifu + Farigiraf kinda...

heady onyx
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but it beats out both caly so is good

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farigiraf is fodder for this duo

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it's free setup

stone trellis
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Setup in front of who, Urshifu?

heady onyx
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shifu doesnt live pagos tera

stone trellis
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What are you gonna do, die to CC or Tera Ghost the Arceus and take 80% from Foul Play because you just SD'd?

heady onyx
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arceus fairy kinda feeds on urshifu

stone trellis
heady onyx
stone trellis
heady onyx
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yes espeed arceus

stone trellis
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My fault, brother.

heady onyx
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but the plate is the typing

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with many dragons rampant in meta

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judgment is what they deserve

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good into shifu also

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brute bonnet

stone trellis
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Magearna's clanker ass:

heady onyx
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magearna not much seen

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two times i think

stone trellis
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(I'm sorry, my brain is hard coded to slander Terapagos)

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Meet Potential Mon!

"He has the potential to rival Zacian"
"His complete Stellar form will go crazy"
"He'll win a tournament too eventually"
"Just wait until he wins Worlds"

They call me 007
0 tournaments won
0 relevance
7 different Pokemon who bully it

Give me liberty
Give me fire
Give me a Terastallised Pokemon
Or I retire

"If" and "when" but never "is"

Use my wide movepool, good stats and great ability to the fullest? ❌
Spam Calm Mind and let the Urshifu obliterate me with CC ✅

stone trellis
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By the way, do you have any specific tech for the Darkrai matchup?

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Because that shit can be really annoying if your team isn't prepared for it.

short quiver
foggy lodge
short quiver
solid frigate
next stump
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milwaukee signups live if anyone is going

solid frigate
molten oasis
short quiver
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what does mu mean i dont speak alphabet 🫠

solid frigate
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matchup

short quiver
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ah

molten oasis
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Matchup

short quiver
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i gotta find moves and ev spreads for my team

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i also gotta find a 6th mon

molten oasis
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No? Ok then I can test this

rustic mountain
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just outside top 250 on reg h ladder HDyepge

forest arrow
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Nice bro what you running

rustic mountain
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arch-peli-basc-incin-shroom-dengo

short quiver
forest arrow
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dope I just threw something like that in the builder

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it has tinkaton over incin tho i was gonna try Tofus old set

rustic mountain
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its good most of my losses i feel im just not playin well enough

short quiver
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or should i say i love pipebomb and dead fish

forest arrow
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you can hh your own dengo and para opposing

nocturne holly
rustic mountain
forest arrow
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Prob not worth but I bet the damage is crazy

rustic mountain
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incin just the goat

forest arrow
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very true

short quiver
forest arrow
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idk how triple steel would fair

short quiver
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i just read that message

rustic mountain
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most common leads i guess are incin basc, basc arch or arch peli

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but again i really lead just about every combo imaginable its very based on wat kinda mons im up against

polar canyon
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Like points

rustic mountain
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im at 1447

polar canyon
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I mean elo

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Oh that's considered good?

rustic mountain
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once the ladders developed itd be considered mid ladder but rn its almost top 250, up to u to decide whether thats good or not, im pretty pleased w/ it considering im not too far off coming back from a bit of a break

polar canyon
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Do you think that would be good for reg j

foggy lodge
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I went back to the Tangs team

rustic mountain
#

idk wat the reg j ladder is

foggy lodge
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I may play a limitless tour with it

polar canyon
#

I landed at 211 there

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But like I'm not sure if that's even good if people don't actually even like reg j

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I think I'm just gonna leave that account there

rustic mountain
#

its say around top 200 is solid

polar canyon
#

Ah

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Maybe I should try to push a bit further

rustic mountain
#

up to u

polar canyon
#

But I get the feeling I might just get a losing streak and snowball down

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I think I'll just leave that account there

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I left my mark and it's a very fragile mark that can crumble if I try to mess with it again

nocturne holly
dense latch
#

worrying about elo and placement and having that scare you off playing ladder will get you nowhere if you want to improve

solid frigate
left bobcat
#

Reg g with extra steps

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Everything is reg g with extra steps if u think about it

forest arrow
#

quite literally normal rain + tink lol

rustic mountain
#

incin is standard p shot blitz knock off and fo

rustic mountain
dense latch
#

i just checked #1 is 1755 already lol

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like 100 more elo than in reg h

rustic mountain
#

e force eruption stuff?

forest arrow
#

Yeah manual sun/psyspam

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could prob go defensive tera and give a little bulk

rustic mountain
#

sash is nice insurance

molten oasis
nocturne holly
# rustic mountain band and metal coat

Also another problem is when I think amoongus dengo and incin are really good but don’t what to do for the 4th slot
Like basc needs rain, arch not so much, and then there peli which ig is useful with tw

rustic mountain
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u can work around no rain for basc ur jus not gna have the speed/damage u usually do

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usually peli is jus better tho

nocturne holly
#

Ok thx

molten oasis
forest arrow
#

Yeah..

molten oasis
#

I really think I need to invest into bulk

forest arrow
#

imma just run incin lmaoo

molten oasis
#

Cuz my team is really frail otherwise

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I need to threaten damage on Zard

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I don’t with everything on that team.

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Ok lemme note

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I don’t do anything before Zard does 50-ohkoing something

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Incin can’t get rid of it before my team members are pretty much evaporated

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Harc has a place here and it works

short quiver
#

chat random question, would morpeko be good in reg h

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🙂

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i want my 6th slot to be just random

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like totodile at worlds 2025 type shit

next stump
#

it’s not good but it’s usable

short quiver
next stump
#

he’s very cute

short quiver
#

my favorite pikachu wannabe is emolga though

rustic mountain
short quiver
polar canyon
#

Togedemaru

short quiver
#

i just really like emolga its so cute

rustic mountain
rustic mountain
short quiver
#

look at that cuteness

forest arrow
rustic mountain
short quiver
#

i hate scalpers i cant even buy cards at meijers

jade dust
#

This is the first time in history that both box legendaries win the world championships in their debut generation right?

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Lunala won in gen 7 but not Solgaleo, and Zacian won in gen 8 but not Zama

warped mason
#

We like bullying calyrex

brave hazel
#

Hmm would a flutter perish song build with a trapinch switch in

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work

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Trap can’t learn protect tho hmm

craggy dagger
#

trapinch...

rustic mountain
#

faced a team w/ no restricteds climbing back from pokeball 5 peepoglad (it was in greatball 8)

cyan smelt
#

Did U win

short quiver
#

arena trap only works on mons that arent flying or Levitating

lean ridge
#

Might as well just run shadow tag instead

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Wolfe simulator

short quiver
#

and ig baton pass and shed tail but no one uses those

lean ridge
short quiver
#

or smthn like memento if they wanna be sadistic enough

lean ridge
#

And stall until they faint to the song

short quiver
lean ridge
#

No one ever uses baton pass in doubles

short quiver
#

exactly

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what if you run into that one person with it just to ruin your perish song

lean ridge
#

That would be pretty unfortunate 😭

short quiver
#

it would be so unfortunate for you, but great for them

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i should start running baton pass just to deal with perish song 🤔

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or shed tail

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although only a handful of mons even get that move

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omg theres another move that can deny perish song

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healing wish 🙂

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the user dies anyways but they actually gain something from it

rustic mountain
cyan smelt
#

Maybe they were practising for reg h

rustic mountain
#

they had legendaries

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just no restricteds

dense latch
#

they got stuck in reg f

rustic mountain
#

yea it was more like a reg e team

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heatran cress urshi torn

craggy dagger
#

reg F

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that’s so reg F

rustic mountain
#

i think im facing the same guy i just beat

dense latch
#

that's almost a gen 5 team

short quiver
#

and then the water bear

rustic mountain
waxen dock
#

lando t cresselia and hetran are so reg d and e

rustic mountain
#

yea

craggy dagger
forest arrow
#

Yeah LO lando really picked up in F bc of bolt too

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which in turn wasnt great for heatran

craggy dagger
#

yup

dense latch
#

i love lando i

deft crescent
craggy dagger
#

um
sandstorm reg i huh

#

looks fine but calyrex shadow is really gonna hate that chip

deft crescent
#

maybe I could swap it out for landorus?

craggy dagger
#

that becomes a reg G team-
i’m
thinking maybeeeee
hmm…
ice rider or smth

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a little more bulky

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don’t get me wrong, it’s a good idea on paper

deft crescent
#

fair, but I don't really have any special damage then

craggy dagger
#

but caly shadow dislikes taking any sort of damage that’s not life orb recoil

deft crescent
#

fair

craggy dagger
#

ig you do have dkiss

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test it out and see how it feels

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if it feels weird, you can always switch things up or tweak things

craggy dagger
chrome knot
#

hasaaiii

molten oasis
#

Lots of Tera fighting or random fighting moves on ladder

craggy dagger
chrome knot
#

gnnnn

craggy dagger
#

you doing okay?

chrome knot
#

yeaaaa

craggy dagger
#

oop-
goodnight MumeiSmile2

chrome knot
#

unrelated but, seeing a psychiatrist tmrw

craggy dagger
#

goodluck RosHeadpat

cosmic patio
#

anyone got any good current reg teams I could make

chrome knot
#

hope for reasonable diagnosis

rustic mountain
#

3rd swordfish team in a row aPES_Blink

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13-1 to hit mball

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rank 995

deft crescent
#

so apparently I cannot stop tailwind + kyogre

short quiver
#

did you guys know hoenn zigzagoon and linoone can learn Espeed

rustic mountain
#

yes

cosmic patio
#

how should I change this team

short quiver
deft crescent
cosmic patio
rustic mountain
#

what r u even goin for

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like wat format is that

deft crescent
#

if any1 has a kyogre team could u battle me

cosmic patio
dense latch
# deft crescent https://pokepast.es/651afa8c8a78bcac what do we think of this sandstorm team I m...

your calyrex should 100% have protect, drop taunt

i don't see how either ttar or chomp can make an impact in reg i to be honest, the other 3 mons are fine but i'd consider running way less bulk on ogerpon cornerstone, sturdy lets you afford to run little to no bulk

you can just do 252 atk 252 speed jolly or smth like this to live tera water surging strikes
Ogerpon-Cornerstone @ Cornerstone Mask
Ability: Sturdy
Level: 50
Tera Type: Rock
EVs: 28 HP / 76 Atk / 148 Def / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Ivy Cudgel
  • Power Whip
  • Follow Me
  • Spiky Shield

then clefairy should have friend guard over magic guard, the latter is useless and friend guard is part of what makes clefairy viable
i'd also def drop iron defense for wide guard on zama, especially since you struggle vs kyogre

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a large majority of calyrex shadow riders are max speed timid so you're going to be the slower calyrex 90% of the time

deft crescent
gentle cragBOT
dense latch
gentle cragBOT
dense latch
#

with clefairy on the team i'd argue you'd be fine without it

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https://pokepast.es/c0e414126a010375 this team just top cut worlds and i think it fits what you're trying to accomplish, you can certainly switch some stuff around move wise but ogerpon-fire may be better as defensive redirection

deft crescent
#

no it is not at all

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this is a SANDSTORM team

dense latch
#

it's a csr zama team at its core with a sandstorm mode, which i don't think brings much value in this regulation

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you can try it out but i don't know what they do to help vs the meta

deft crescent
#

I just wanted to build a good sandstorm team

cosmic patio
dense latch
#

nah the team creator hasn't released evs yet

cosmic patio
gentle cragBOT
rustic mountain
#

just beat rank 237 peepoglad

molten oasis
rustic mountain
#

yeh

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14-1

waxen dock
#

is balze or frisk better on typhlosion in bo1 cts?

rustic mountain
#

frisk

molten oasis
rustic mountain
#

💅

molten oasis
#

I’m doing a little better today

uneven quarry
#

Anyone want to 1v1 I just made a build and I want to try it

molten oasis
#

I think gambit a9 and chomp are gonna stay, I like these 3 a lot

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And gambit just inherently feels crazy good to play

waxen dock
#

when does tpci announce the date of the first gc?

brave hazel
#

Is moxie or intimidate better for gyrados

#

Also was it’s mega any good ? I forget

waxen dock
#

but i would say intimidate

brave hazel
#

Especially with scale shot

waxen dock
brave hazel
waxen dock
brave hazel
#

Raises your speed to

brave hazel
waxen dock
#

what are its moves

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exept scale shot

cyan smelt
#

tyranitar is awesome, i kinda want to use it for reg h

stone trellis
short quiver
stone trellis
stone trellis
# short quiver leftovers casually existing

So if I were to say, double up into Terapagos and break Tera Shell first before hitting it with CC, are the Leftovers going to heal back the 45-54% damage it takes from Scarf E-Drift before Close Combat hits it?

#

I've never heard of Lefties healing 45% mid-turn.

short quiver
stone trellis
#

Protect in front of Urshifu?

#

Switch CSR in front of Wicked Blow with no Focus Sash, why don't you?

short quiver
#

oh no! i cant switch to another mon! what a scary bear! whatever shall i do 😨

short quiver
stone trellis
#

I was just saying that using Protect when Urshifu is free to fire off an attack is about as stupid as just switching CSR into a super effective attack when its Focus Sash is broken and expecting it to live.

short quiver
#

🤷‍♂️

stone trellis
#

If that didn't make sense to you, I'm sorry for the wording.

short quiver
#

it does im just still trying to grasp why using rappa and csr on the same team would ever happen

stone trellis
#

No one ever said anything about using the two on the same team.

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This is referring to two completely different scenarios.

chrome knot
bold geode
#

Hai Emma

chrome knot
#

gm

cyan smelt
#

any idea what you're using yet? will it be p2 ursa?

chrome knot
#

p2 something probably

#

any balance core tbh

#

my current p2 dnite gambit is too honest

#

might just bug emily until she gives me a team

brave hazel
#

Mega Skarmory confirmed

#

Greninja & escadrill

#

Delfox thing to

Idk if these are real but it’s all over reddit & the internet

polar canyon
#

Confirmed by who

brave hazel
#

But it’s being posted everywhere

#

Dragonite & victre already 100% confirmed so this could be real

polar canyon
#

Anyone could have just picked randomly and made a post lying

#

But mega drampa would be hype ngl

craggy dagger
molten oasis
#

Could you not have put a spoiler warning on that

chrome knot
#

<@&663761167176433665> spoilers in non spoiler chat that is unrelated to competitive play

#

ty peeah

merry summit
polar canyon
#

And also like don't trust random reddit "leaks"

bold geode
craggy dagger
bold geode
chrome knot
foggy lodge
#

Can we talk about the new mega here

craggy dagger
foggy lodge
#

Tofu said this was not spoilers free so I assume we can

craggy dagger
bold geode
#

I will say
Tofu did say that a while back
But I encourage the use of spoiler tags

bold geode
chrome knot
craggy dagger
bold geode
#

Now you're gonna get it

craggy dagger
#

emma save meeee
ion wanna go to work today GremDead

bold geode
chrome knot
#

oh and if i come back to Vancouver lets go somewhere or somethingggg

polar canyon
#

So a more accurate sleep powder on a slow bulky grass poison pokemon

#

That guy is actually mega amoonguss

short quiver
#

i bought new airpods gng 🥳🥳

molten oasis
#

I’m kinda loving gambit chomp a9 rilla as a core, it feels strong

craggy dagger
#

scarf chomp?

molten oasis
#

No

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Life orb chomp

craggy dagger
#

aw

foggy lodge
#

Banded Chomp is also good

molten oasis
#

I see it but I need protect on it

foggy lodge
#

Actually why don't you just try Agati's team

#

It has a very similar core

molten oasis
#

I don’t have sufficient tw support for band chomp

molten oasis
foggy lodge
#

A9 Chomp Gambit Amoonguss Incin Dnite

molten oasis
#

:/

foggy lodge
jade dust
foggy lodge
#

The same that Paul Chua used but different items

jade dust
#

At this point it has to be real

molten oasis
#

There’s no protects what

jade dust
#

They were right with Dragonite and this thing

molten oasis
#

Everything clicks buttons

chrome knot
#

@craggy dagger why does everyone say primarina is mid :<

foggy lodge
#

But yeah its wild lol

craggy dagger
foggy lodge
#

Tho this team doesn't really have that much EQ sinergy

#

Because it only has one protect and on the mon that is inmune to ground lmao

chrome knot
#

anti sneasler bomb..

craggy dagger
#

i mean
prim def can work but dire claw bad GremDead

molten oasis
#

Well there’s one but like, positioning this seems really annoying

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@foggy lodge how do you position this team? There’s no protects

spiral ridge
#

prim was super fun to use but yeah sneasler was annoying

foggy lodge
#

Around Incin Guss as your repositionary pieces

#

A lot of leads of this tema are Incin guss or pure damage with a combination of the other 4

chrome knot
craggy dagger
molten oasis
#

Mm

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I’ll try it just, this is not a style of team I love

spiral ridge
chrome knot
#

WTF

molten oasis
#

Oh it’s not even Sd Tera dark gambit

#

That set is lit

dense latch
#

i don’t see the harm in changing it to sd gambit

molten oasis
#

Im fine with one or the other but both just seems like positioning hell

#

And it’s so heavily reliant on incin and amoonguss

dense latch
#

this team was pre scale shot dnite being super meta so if you did scale shot dnite + haze rather than lum you could drop clear smog on amoong for protect

#

and lorb chomp is an option too

molten oasis
#

Here, 1 sec

#

Harc has been putting in a lot of work for the sun mu

dense latch
#

yea harc is awesome

#

rly nice team

molten oasis
#

I also enjoy just

#

Offensive fire type

dense latch
#

gambit sd + ebuzz is also so fun

molten oasis
#

Yeah, and just one SD and that gambit is such a monster

polar canyon
#

Honestly how do you stop it once it gets going

#

I just didn't run into that yet

polar canyon
molten oasis
#

I like harc

polar canyon
#

Copy of untitled 1

molten oasis
#

Yep

polar canyon
#

Someone's browser history got reset

#

I hate it when that happens

molten oasis
#

It’s so annoying

polar canyon
#

What's the sun mu rn actually

molten oasis
#

Happened on my phone and my laptop

molten oasis
polar canyon
#

I'm assuming its h lilligant torkoal tr

#

Do you beat tr?

molten oasis
#

Uhhhh

#

Maybe buzz harc actually

#

I haven’t ran into likikoal with this variant

polar canyon
#

I think ewebs electabuzz can be fun

molten oasis
#

Yeah

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Oh this is the wrong paste

red willow
#

Someone smarter than me why does chien pao run Ice Shard in Singles but not doubles

molten oasis
molten oasis
red willow
#

Huh weird non of the sets I saw were on it

#

Ig ice spinner real good v mirai tho

#

And rilla

molten oasis
#

Life orb and assault vest chien pao sets use ice shard

red willow
#

I think mines on sash? Iirc

foggy lodge
#
  • sucker punch is just really good into most Pokémon
#

Chien Pao in VGC always runs ice stab + sucker punch + protect + 4th move that varies between sacred sword, throat chop, crunch, etc

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Just lately with AV sets in reg I it started running more support sets and therefore making ice shard a valuable pick

deft crescent
stone trellis
#
  1. Why is Whimsicott so slow?
#
  1. Why does Tyranitar have to hold the Smooth Rock?
deft crescent
#

I didn't like choice band

#

on tyranitar that is

stone trellis
#
  1. Even if Tyranitar has to hold the Smooth Rock for whatever reason, why is it forgoing Protect?
#

Choice Band isn't your only option.

deft crescent
#

what else is there?

stone trellis
#

Assault Vest works just fine, though Ting-Lu honestly does Ttar's job way better at that point.

deft crescent
#

this is a sandstorm team....

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or at least I'm trying to make it one

chrome knot
spiral ridge
#

girl dinner

#

do be poison tera

craggy dagger
spiral ridge
#

oh lol

#

wait sash ape? does that work with gambit

foggy lodge
#

And I don't find how lefties CIR goes here

#

You are losing the same HP you recover from leftovers by sand xd

soft kelp
#

What’s a good team for the new regulation set?

foggy lodge
#

Erizabeth rain

round abyss
#

what is erizabeth rain

chrome knot
spiral ridge
#

fair enough

tribal vortex
#

Sash Ape with Final Gambit. Gonna do an amazing 1 damage poliwhirlkek

round abyss
#

what are yall running

#

rain is so goateed

brave hazel
#

Not like i was the only one talking about it

chrome knot
#

you should know better 😭

brave hazel
#

Imagine crying

#

How would I know

chrome knot
#

not wanting leaked spoilers of a game sounds like a regular response that isn't "crying"

brave hazel
chrome knot
#

other way was faster ig

dull ibex
#

anyways

#

hey chat how is ladder going

bold geode
dull ibex
#

hi dollar

bold geode
#

Hello

dull ibex
#

weegeecee?

bold geode
#

Not right this second, I'm doing some things

dull ibex
#

CRINGE

solid frigate
next stump
#

been mispronouncing my fave pokemon the whole time

molten oasis
#

Bruh

bold geode
next stump
#

FUH-RIDGE-UH-RAFF

#

like how you’d say giraffe almost

bold geode
#

I knew it

#

I been saying it right the whole time

lean ridge
#

no way its FUH

#

ive always said FAH

#

also chien poo releases in 1.5 hrs WCat

chrome knot
#

hi this isnt the same as posting LEAKS

#

like NON OFFICIAL shit

foggy lodge
#

@bold geode comp helper give me reg H rental team

bold geode
chrome knot
#

leaked megas

foggy lodge
#

Comp helpers failed me,,,

bold geode
chrome knot
#

lowkey I do not care

molten oasis
#

i dont wanna see leaks

chrome knot
#

^^ like are u stupid 😭

molten oasis
#

i want most of legends za to be surprise for me

bold geode
#

Hence why I mentioned spoiler tags

chrome knot
#

there is a specific channel for it for a reason

molten oasis
#

kinda ruined that with arceus

molten oasis
#

i care about talking about like, ability leaks when ZA comes out and after i've seen all the megas

bold geode
#

Well pardon me for mentioning something that was literally said a year ago

molten oasis
#

i do NOT wanna know about the megas right now

chrome knot
#

they are not relevant to competitive play they have no use for being here

molten oasis
#

what does this have to do with a year ago?

bold geode
#

Forget it

molten oasis
#

ok

bold geode
#

It's gone, it's irrelevant

chrome knot
#

doing the funny and silly

molten oasis
#

bear

bold geode
chrome knot
#

nnnnoooooooooooo

#

yes :3

bold geode
#

Lol

#

Folded under zero pressure

molten oasis
#

lol

spiral ridge
#

team was already put above anyways lol

knotty mirage
#

I wonder is it good idea to build scarf jirachi serene grace iron head sounds tempting especially comboed with thunder wave

round abyss
#

what tera for dengo
im using dragon rn

lean ridge
#

Chien Poo has arrived 🙏

brave hazel
#

Instead of “ OMG MODS HELP “ Melo dramatic

next stump
#

September 5th-7th weekend

brave hazel
#

RIP my prankster strat

knotty mirage
#

Just play hyper offense or balanced

brave hazel
#

Like cry some more

lean ridge
#

Is chien pao always run 252 speed 252 atk with a sash

chrome knot
brave hazel
chrome knot
#

googoo googoo jingling keys infront of your face and you respond always :3

brave hazel
#

how to say you’re 12 with out saying you’re 12

chrome knot
#

googoo baaba

brave hazel
knotty mirage
#

What restricted are you using anyway

brave hazel
chrome knot
#

monke

#

which ape mark do i use, caught a few cute ones

bold geode
#

Tell me the list

chrome knot
bold geode
#

I like the Humble for some reason

chrome knot
#

kat said the same GiggleHehe

bold geode
#

Damn we on the same wavelength

knotty briar
#

Funny that we get a reg H competition announced the moment we get to use shiny Chien-Pao

lofty tartan
#

Regulation J is a nothing-burger format that is for fun only. They're going to do actual formats that don't involve Mythicals for competitions.

#

Mythicals are exclusive and people are complaining already about their availability in regards to J.

next stump
#

it’s time to use tera fighting tera blast gholdengo again

knotty mirage
#

I have question is there other viable item for chien pao that's not sash ?

#

I really want to use pao but caly s already hold the focus sash SadMimi

lean ridge
#

life orb

#

or AV it was on a team at worlds but idk what the spread is for that one

dense latch
#

i need to get a team ready

solid frigate
polar canyon
# next stump

Late reply but I'm choosing to believe the pokemon company is wrong on this one actually

#

You don't say giraffe like guhraffe

#

That is so stupid

foggy lodge
polar canyon
#

It will never be the close combat gholdengo

dull ibex
#

@bold geode did you claim your shiny chien

waxen dock
#

I built my team yesterday(august 21)

solid frigate
waxen dock
#

I waited a lot of time for this

#

I just need 2 things and im done

waxen dock
knotty briar
#

What should I do for EVs and nature here?
It's for the Indeedee Armarouge combo

foggy lodge
#

Use female is its for Armarouge

#

Male is really like to get started by itself

waxen dock
#

if you use male use sash or scarf

#

because male is very frail

knotty briar
#

I really wanna use male for this team so I'll probably run sash then