competitive_discussion

[dense latch]

i wonder how he'll fair in masters

[foggy lodge]

Mhm

Astterio too he is a chilean seniors player

He got top 8 at the smogon tour

[pulsar cloak]

Would've been in seniors last season but I wasn't playing competitively

[foggy lodge]

I wish I was a senior when life was full of flowers and dumb shit

[dense latch]

seniors is 16 and under right

[foggy lodge]

Discovering 17 is Masters in VGC made this image flash sooner in my mind than it should and I don't like that

[pulsar cloak]

Masters is '08 and earlier

[dense latch]

the pandemic ruined my chances of playing in the seniors div

chat thoughts on totodile outperforming marcofiero and fedecampo

[next stump]

I didn’t know VGC was a thing until I was 22 😦

this game would have been crazy fun to play as a teen

[foggy lodge]

They have to adress that

[next stump]

I was stuck with league

[dense latch]

i played a bit when i was 13/14

[dull ibex]

should i switch to bulky whim?

[foggy lodge]

I only played rankeds in sw/sh when I was like 14 but didn't understand anything

WHAT THE FUCK IS A PROTECT🦅🦅🦅

[dull ibex]

Whimsicott @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Prankster
Level: 50
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 252 HP / 128 Def / 128 SpD
Calm Nature

• Tailwind
• Moonblast
• Encore
• Light Screen

🤔

munchstats most common spread

[dense latch]

interesting

faster whim seems to be used a lot more though

70% are timid

[foggy lodge]

Yes

[dull ibex]

I do think I want some bulk

[foggy lodge]

I think you should take a life orb astral barrage atleast

I had my Whimsicott calced to that and would still die because I got crited too often💔

[dense latch]

you could prioritize hp and speed

[foggy lodge]

I remember a bo3 set in reg G where I lost my Weezing turn 1 to astral crit two times

[dense latch]

252 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Rider Astral Barrage vs. 252 HP / 52 SpD Whimsicott: 140-165 (83.8 - 98.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO you need this to guaranteed live

[dull ibex]

anyone wanna do a quick battle and offer some advice?

[dense latch]

you can probably go a bit lower on the spdef bc not everyone runs max max timid csr

what's your team again

[foggy lodge]

Watch it be modest

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/422a096ca6c7a807

[dense latch]

why is ursa not 0 speed iv

[dull ibex]

because its not 0iv in game

oh nvm

my ingame ursa IS 0 speed

I might put urshifu back in

[short quiver]

what if i use politoed for rain 😃

[dull ibex]

just use kyogre

[short quiver]

😒

https://tenor.com/view/asdf-getoutofmysandwich-no-sandwich-asdfmovie14-gif-24465908

[next stump]

play regulation H

[dull ibex]

then be suboptimal idk

[next stump]

and use politoed

[short quiver]

ill let asdf do the talking

[short quiver]

also no

that requires me playing on showdown

[dull ibex]

then play on showdown

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2423053935-9idb9lurnsy752gbf9r7t5bsdmjdqrkpw

THAT CRIT LMAO

[short quiver]

ew no

[dull ibex]

what.

what is ew about it

[short quiver]

i much prefer in game battling

[dull ibex]

as do i

[short quiver]

showdown just isnt fun for me

[nocturne holly]

What time are finals tmr

[next stump]

roughly 20 hours from now

[foggy lodge]

We are ONLY 50 showers away from the next world championship???

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-ishowspeed-ballon-d'or-ballon-d'or-shocked-ishowspeed-noway-gif-9357582452923318096

[molten oasis]

Lmao

[solid frigate]

so i tried Gio's team

And then this happened (Hawkes is Ho-Oh)

[nocturne holly]

The sd zac team might be my favorite

I also really liked kos team

And nicks

[foggy lodge]

Life orb Mirai is good and I never thought I would say that

Its a super annoying set

This format was really just a lot of 50/50s

Montana Mott vs Derbeste is really just pure 50/50 almost every turn

Math ain't mathing

[molten oasis]

Why is it Hearthflame lmao

[solid frigate]

LMAO

[polar canyon]

Ogerpon [Hearthflame Mask]
Held Item: Cornerstone Mask

[solid frigate]

i want to cry

[dense latch]

nickname: wellspring

[solid frigate]

ability:Defiant

[dense latch]

how far into the depths of hell do you have to be to face this

[foggy lodge]

Low ladder lowkey beautiful shows how different we are between each other

I wonder what teambuilding decisions make you land on Terapagos Dialga Origin Raichu Gyarados

Cuz I never could

[dense latch]

eq lando-i 🤑

[foggy lodge]

Anywas

[solid frigate]

i just don't see it

[foggy lodge]

For people that still think pokemon with X4 weaknesses are bad
Both of the worlds finalists have 3 mons with X4 weaknesses on their teams

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2423064951-bm53ndejkxv1r7psqsblkpfplvl8iaipw

At least back to at least normal teams

[solid frigate]

wait

Stellar Flutter?

[foggy lodge]

Tera is a mechanic fs I think irs funny

[lofty tartan]

Man I didn't start participating until 38 or something

[next stump]

https://tenor.com/view/fake-sleep-fate-sleeping-pretend-sleeping-sleep-tired-gif-16112295435833330711

[lofty tartan]

😐

Nah man I'm working on a mod

[dense latch]

ooo neat

[lofty tartan]

Right now I'm digging through error logs to figure out where I messed up on my code

[dense latch]

what game is it for?

[lofty tartan]

It's for Baldur's Gate 3

I've corrected all but 8 errors, which are probably 4 because it seems to give me duplicates

[next stump]

insanely cool prize card from worlds

1st-4th all get a card

[dense latch]

that's so sick

https://tenor.com/view/reggieishilarious-playboi-carti-one-day-some-day-ima-have-it-one-day-gif-22742844

[foggy lodge]

We're gonna get it after we end top 2 at LAIC erik

[dense latch]

imagine

[dull ibex]

ok my luck ran out

[dense latch]

i hope i do well at lima special

[solid frigate]

Play only one No.3 card per year

But what if you got 3rd twice this year

[foggy lodge]

You can do it

Twitter just put this in my feed lmao https://x.com/sjpletcher/status/1917192380630905152

Sam Pletcher (@sjpletcher)

New team report out! Read about my experience teambuilding in Reg G - a stretch with an NAIC Day 2, top cuts at two 2025 majors, and discovering the Koraidon-Brute Bonnet combo that ended up dominating the late meta! Plus my full Atlanta Regionals T8 event report! Link ⬇️

X · Apr 29, 2025, 12:20 PM

What a great timing huh

[zinc moat]

A question, what's the top two builds for Mew currently? Got one in sword about to fix its stats and nature.

[nocturne holly]

“perfect timing” ahh feed

[short quiver]

can someone tell me my ivs for this idk the super cool epic calculations

[forest arrow]

https://pokepast.es/ecd49567431918a7
any advice on a Volc spread? And didn’t know what move to go on clef so I opted for life dew, was also eyeing Heal pulse

[short quiver]

am i tweakin or is zacian a little bulky 😮

180+ spa tera fairy archaludon electro shot in the rain vs 0spD zacian crowned 108-118 2hko

[stone trellis]

So it's Gio and James in the finals, right?

[stone trellis]

Calc for Tera Electric.

[short quiver]

it was tera fairy that i just fougjt

[stone trellis]

And at level 50.

[short quiver]

so tera fairy is what i calculated

[short quiver]

it was set to level 50

[stone trellis]

Aight.

[short quiver]

tera fairy was risky into a zacian crowned, no?

cuz what if i went double into that slot behemoth blade and whatever i had my other mon use

whats the Least SpD a zacian could have to survive an electro drift

if at all

[molten oasis]

Nothing survives electro drift unless you resist it

You might live scarf Mirai edrift

[short quiver]

ah so outspeed or lose, got it

[waxen dock]

What?

[short quiver]

i fought a tera fairy archaludon

[waxen dock]

I eont understand the calc

[short quiver]

neither do i twin

🥀

[waxen dock]

It doesnt show the damagr

[short quiver]

where on munchstats can i get recommended movesets for chienpao zacian and ttar

[stone trellis]

The humble king and his frozen steed:

[mighty stump]

Koraidon world champion Scarlet on top

[stone trellis]

I love Koraidon-CSR, but Lunala > CSR (in terms of how much I like them as Pokemon).

However, I wouldn't be mad if either of these guys won.

[mighty stump]

idc abt those two wimps we Flare Blitz

[stone trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/koraidon-pokemon-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-pokemon-trainer-ltg-gif-5206435914628017160

[short quiver]

🥺

for doggo girl im genuinely considering just bblade play rough crunch protect

but i really dk for the other 2

[stone trellis]

Alright, let me cook.

First of all, why Crunch?

[short quiver]

mostly for fear of calyrex

i was also eyeing ice fang

[stone trellis]

You can use Swords Dance to make its moves even scarier, Sacred Sword to bully Incineroar or Tera Ground Tera Blast to bully literally half of the field.

[bold geode]

Cinema

[short quiver]

so the variations would be :
bblade play rough swords dance protect
bblade play rough sacred sword protect
or bblade play rough tera blast protect

[stone trellis]

Yep.

BB, Play Rough and Protect are a given.

[short quiver]

so no teeth go chompy chomp? 😔

[stone trellis]

Dude, you have Ttar.

[short quiver]

true

i also have psychic fangs on zama but thats not staying

[stone trellis]

220+ SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Astral Barrage vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Tyranitar in Sand: 38-45 (18.3 - 21.7%) -- possible 5HKO

I'm pretty sure that, aside from the frozen king, it's one of the only mons who can actually take a neutral Electro Drift.

[short quiver]

it also has tera ground

just in case

[stone trellis]

Sure.

[short quiver]

i was also considering using leftovers on it

i havent decided yet

[stone trellis]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera Fairy Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Tyranitar: 168-198 (81.1 - 95.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera Fairy Miraidon Dazzling Gleam vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Tyranitar in Sand: 152-182 (73.4 - 87.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery

You can definitely run that as well.

[short quiver]

bet

[stone trellis]

Tera Ground isn't optimal.

Tera Grass would be sauced.

You still wall Miraidon, but you're not weak as fuck to Surging Strikes or Water Spout anymore.

[short quiver]

i did a match and a whimsicott used fake tears on my water pon before kyogre used water spout

i laughed so hard when water absorbed triggered

[stone trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/flight-flight-not-laughing-flightreacts-flight-reacts-flightreacts-not-laughing-gif-6356142083741775471

Wait, SwordFish with Ttar?

[stone trellis]

Dual dogs?

[short quiver]

yuh

[stone trellis]

Elite.

What's the item on Torn?

[short quiver]

im giving zama wide guard and body press im unsure for the other 2 moves

[short quiver]

cloak

im ev training its spA rn

[stone trellis]

Heavy Slam to take advantage of its big weight or Behemoth Bash to do more consistent damage.

[stone trellis]

The item on the photo doesn't look like it.

[short quiver]

ill probably go behemoth cuz a lot of mons are heavier than zama rn

[stone trellis]

And then Protect.

Go for it.

[short quiver]

the item rn is the power lens to increase its spA evs

but in battle it will have cloak

[stone trellis]

Oh.

I'm definitely going to run this for the hell of it.

[short quiver]

and ttar has the ankle bracer to increase its attack

[short quiver]

run what

[stone trellis]

Your team.

[short quiver]

😃

idk what im cooking but i havent burned the kitchen quite yet

i did a few matches a little while ago and its actually pretty comfortable for me

i will say Chienpao DEFINITELY pulls its weight in this team

[stone trellis]

5/6 mons on your team are physical.

[short quiver]

hence why chienpao pulls its weight heavily in this team

[stone trellis]

And all of them are in that nice 120-150 range where it takes just one push to turn them into nuclear bombs.

[stone trellis]

What moves are you running on it?

[short quiver]

so am i cooking? 😃

[stone trellis]

On the one hand, yeah.

[short quiver]

rn it has icicle crash sucker punch throat chop sacred sword

[stone trellis]

No Protect?

[short quiver]

not yet

[stone trellis]

Yes and no.

[short quiver]

im in the process of finalizing my movesets i genuinely dk what to use on sword tiger

[stone trellis]

Normally, teams have a good mix of physical and special attackers.

[short quiver]

dual dogs already kinda hurts that mix you want

and chienpao to make them actually work

ttar to take weather control from
Koraidon

and since both my res mons are steel they dont care about sand

and waterpon because ogerpon is amazingly both offensive and defensive at the same time

[short quiver]

oh yeah and that kyogre immediately fell to a power whip from waterpon immediately after this

[stone trellis]

Great.

Sand also breaks Chien-Pao's Focus Sash and three of the mons here are weak to Fighting, which you can only change for one mon.

[short quiver]

that issue did come up in one of my games

i solved it with follow me on ogerpon in that scenario

[bold geode]

https://x.com/playpokemon/status/1956929018793472421?t=Vj8WrFgtcWh_2n_m8alFxw&s=19
EXCUSE ME

Play! Pokémon 📍 #PokemonWorlds (@playpokemon)

With our #PokemonWorlds finalists locked in for Championship Sunday, check out an exclusive first look at the arena where our final battles will take center stage! 👀

X · Aug 17, 2025, 4:00 AM

[stone trellis]

They've been saying that there's an arena there since Friday.

[bold geode]

I ain't hear it but like
That's a whole ass stadium

[chrome knot]

monke

[short quiver]

what you suggest on Torn. rn i got sludge wave tailwind bleakwind and uproar (uproar is here for a reason)

[bold geode]

Helloing Emma

[stone trellis]

Why Sludge Wave?

[chrome knot]

hi wanna blow my head off

[stone trellis]

You have Zacian for Fairy types and Bleakwind/Chien-Pao for Grass types.

[bold geode]

Same, I'm awake at 3am

[short quiver]

i wasnt sure what else to use

[chrome knot]

its storming alot and i hate loud noises

so i cannot sleep

[stone trellis]

Taunt, maybe?

[bold geode]

Yikes
Ngl that'd put my ass to sleep

[short quiver]

bet

[chrome knot]

what is the counterplay

[bold geode]

Yikes, the skylights are rough though ngl

[stone trellis]

Same, rainy nights are perfect sleeping material.

[chrome knot]

this isn’t cute like rain vibes😭

[short quiver]

for chienpao should i go icicle crash sucker punch sacred sword protect?

[woven pelican]

is this like "my thunder will kill you" vibes

[stone trellis]

Yep.

[short quiver]

🙂

[chrome knot]

whats the rest of team

[bold geode]

[short quiver]

^

[chrome knot]

what the hell are these items on torn ttar

[woven pelican]

[chrome knot]

oh ur ev training manually

[short quiver]

yes

[stone trellis]

They're used to EV train them, yeah.

[chrome knot]

also why both dogs

[short quiver]

cuz i want to

[bold geode]

Can I go back to sleep already

[chrome knot]

lowkey would be a decent csr zam team

[stone trellis]

Koraidon Ho-oh food ngl

[chrome knot]

quad weak to ttar

[stone trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/goku-prowler-goku-goku-mad-goku-dbs-dbs-gif-12730468747705603064

[short quiver]

and zacian playrough would eat a nontera koraidon for breakfast

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/calyrex-ghost-calyrex-shadow-rider-astral-barrage-pokemon-gif-12499362770308053912

[stone trellis]

Quad weak to Koraidon.

[chrome knot]

follow me

[stone trellis]

Fair point.

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/save-epic-save-cats-cat-gif-2265103422569750166

[bold geode]

We can play these games all day LMAO

[short quiver]

ogerpon doing ogerpon things

[bold geode]

That was a pretty epic save

[short quiver]

hold please while i murder the local scatterbug population

[stone trellis]

Hold on, is there anything Ttar can be EV'd to outspeed with Tailwind without sacrificing a ridiculous amount of Speed?

[short quiver]

its dangerous out there take this with you holds out a chienpao

sabertooth tiger doing sabertooth tiger things

chat do you suggest swords dance sacred sword or tera blast on sword doggo

i cant decide

[chrome knot]

https://pokepast.es/acc5bbeccc1be78e lowkey this’d be fun @bold geode

[stone trellis]

AV Pao, the ultimate sacking tool.

[short quiver]

and what should ttars moves be. i have crunch ice fang rock slide and stomping tantrum on him rn

[chrome knot]

low kick knock off rock slide

[knotty mirage]

Wait assault vest chien pao is a thing ?

[chrome knot]

yes

[short quiver]

low kick? 😨

[chrome knot]

yes?

everything is heavy asf rn😭

[short quiver]

whats the max bp this move can have

[chrome knot]

120

[knotty mirage]

So is that the reason why some chien pao for some reason can live after getting hit by electro drift

[stone trellis]

If the target weighs more than 200 kg.

[stone trellis]

Scarf?

[short quiver]

and i dont have the stuff for knock off atm hold thst though

[stone trellis]

There's no way they live Specs Modest.

[short quiver]

why do i need so much stuff for knock off 😨

[short quiver]

and what for move 4, protect?

[stone trellis]

If it's not holding the Assault Vest, yeah.

[stone trellis]

252 SpA Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Chien-Pao in Electric Terrain: 144-171 (77 - 91.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
You gotta EV it to live Scarf Timid, this shit is not that bulky.

[chrome knot]

you wont believe whats not rly being ran rn lol

[short quiver]

and with av would ice fang be acceptable 🙂

[chrome knot]

you wont believe how paos are being spread rn

[knotty mirage]

It spec modest but no elec terrain

[stone trellis]

A blind infant with sensitive skin can live that.

[chrome knot]

?

[stone trellis]

Electric Terrain boosts the power of Electric moves by 1.3.

Hadron Engine also boosts Miraidons Special Attack by 4/3.

[chrome knot]

omg does it really !?

[stone trellis]

So all in all, it boosts the power of Electro Drift by what, 1.73x?

[chrome knot]

oh my goddd

like who doesn’t know this😭 but like seriously the most normal meta calls going into worlds were av & scarf mirai good, av spdef bulky pao also good

[stone trellis]

I will never take AV Pao seriously, I'm so sorry.

[chrome knot]

because of the adjustment in miraidon sets, so you could get away with not being 205 on pao

its not like i value ur opinion much anyways so its ok😭

[stone trellis]

Whatever floats your boat.

[knotty mirage]

Yeah i think there still so many thing i need to learn when trying to play on cart ladder

Too many people try to use surprise factor it just so bad now

[stone trellis]

Classic cart ladder bullshit.

[bold geode]

That is something lol

[knotty mirage]

I wonder does people now use pao more for it's ability so they makes it bulky and fast because it doesn't really need the attack investment ?

[short quiver]

i just curb stomped a guy with miraidon hooh

crit play rough on mirai turn 1

it was over immediately

[stone trellis]

Play Rough into Mirai?

[short quiver]

yeah

my zama is so bulky holy crap

[stone trellis]

It's Zamazenta, dude.

[short quiver]

ive sustained myself in red hp for 6 turns now

the only thing this guy could hurt me with was earth power tera turtle. who got nuked by bleakwind storm and body press

[stone trellis]

There is exactly one mon with better natural special bulk than it, but that one has a shit defensive typing.

And in terms of physical bulk, it would be outclassed by Ice Rider if it weren't for Dauntless Shield.

[short quiver]

and that is

[stone trellis]

Ho-oh.

[short quiver]

teehee

[brave hazel]

Kinda sucks that prankster don’t work against dark type

Probs balances it but just weird I feel like

[knotty mirage]

There good a reason why it work like that now

[stone trellis]

Don't know where I should post this, but I just started drawing the teams of the two guys in the finals of Worlds.

I decided to do Gio's team first, but I don't know how well that'll go since Lunala is flat as fuck and won't look good from the side.

WHY ARE THERE NO NORMAL FLUTTER MANE 3D MODELS WITH THE IDLE ANIMATION?

[knotty briar]

Make sure to post it when you're done
I really wanna see it

[stone trellis]

I'll have to do it all over again because I fucked up the Life Orb on Koraidon's hand.

[bold geode]

It's finals day lfg

[torn parrot]

Okay gamers

Who are we rooting for

[forest arrow]

Well you see I love both of their teams

So I’m happy with whoever just want a great match

[solid frigate]

more onto Gio

but eh i'm fine with both as well

[forest arrow]

Next year they should give us an Event Bonnet regardless of who wins lmao

(Most likely will be incin tho lol)

[solid frigate]

we already got Incin tho no?

[forest arrow]

I’m pretty sure it’s always incin lol

[stone trellis]

Giovanni.

[torn parrot]

I have a pet peeve about people who put periods after messages on the internet

[stone trellis]

Boo-hoo.

[solid frigate]

lmao

[torn parrot]

You sound mean

[woven pelican]

it's time for finals let's fucking gaur

[stone trellis]

Not yet, but yeah.

[woven pelican]

it is soon time for finals let's fucking gaur

[chrome knot]

you’d be correct

[chrome knot]

why!

[tranquil kraken]

bc u mean

[chrome knot]

ili i be enjoying skirt day today & i goin downtown

[tranquil kraken]

happy skirt day

[chrome knot]

:3

[nocturne holly]

What’s the order for the finals

[stone trellis]

Juniors, Seniors, then Masters.

[next stump]

I think it also goes Unite, GO, TCG, VGC

so VGC masters is the final match of the whole day

Probably 8-10 hours away

[solid frigate]

i'll wait then

[stone trellis]

It's at 3 AM for me, so I'll have to watch it tomorrow.

[nocturne holly]

Wait unite is gonna be heat

What were the good matches from yesterday

I didn’t see ko vs James or gio vs hirofumi

[next stump]

Giovanni’s top 4 match was really good

[nocturne holly]

Yea I’ll watch that then

[nocturne holly]

Good job knocking fede out and doing good in worlds
Even though you’ve heard it so many times already

[next stump]

thank you 🙂 it was very scary being paired into him at 2 losses already

[chrome knot]

gm dillon

[next stump]

good morning

how are you enjoying chicago

[chrome knot]

good

everywhere we’ve been has been vry pretty

on the train goin downtown atm

[bold geode]

Did you hear about Kevin Han

[chrome knot]

mhm

[bold geode]

Bro is just
He's fucking insane

[chrome knot]

yah hes on a different level

[bold geode]

Finna go from winning last year's Worlds to winning this one undefeated in the next age division
It's wild

[bold geode]

[tranquil kraken]

[bold geode]

[stone trellis]

Perfect Groudon for Specs on the first try.

I almost want to keep it.

[polar canyon]

Right the famous eruption groudon

[nocturne holly]

but u rose to the occasion and won

was that tuff

[stone trellis]

Time to reset for a 0 Speed one.

[nocturne holly]

specs?

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 383: Groudon

Type

Ground

Abilities

Drought

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/150/140/100/90/90

Total

670

Other Formes

Groudon-Primal

Sableye version 4.28.2

[nocturne holly]

yea no let’s use 100sp atk over the 150atk great idea

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 382: Kyogre

Type

Water

Abilities

Drizzle

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/100/90/150/140/90

Total

670

Other Formes

Kyogre-Primal

Sableye version 4.28.2

[polar canyon]

That 0 attack iv is sure gonna save groudon from 150 base attack foul play

[stone trellis]

Trust me, it's worked before.

[nocturne holly]

Wait they have the same stats except physical and special are swapped

[polar canyon]

That's a thing with a lot of duos just swapping a few stats

[stone trellis]

Foul Play doesn't do shit if you're not 4x weak to it and have mediocre physical Defense.

[polar canyon]

Eeveelution all have the same numbers just on different stats

[nocturne holly]

I thought kyogre was a little faster
I didn’t know they speed tied

[nocturne holly]

That’s cool

[stone trellis]

Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Reshiram and Zekrom all have the exact same stats just swapped around.

[polar canyon]

Back in the day they'd run level 49 kyogre and groudon to make sure it undersped and their weather took over

[stone trellis]

Same with Mewtwo, Ho-oh and Lugia.

[nocturne holly]

Then how is lugia so ass

While ho oh top 16

[stone trellis]

No offense at all.

[polar canyon]

All bulk and can't damage

[stone trellis]

Ho-oh has the same base Attack as Garchomp and Urshifu.

Lugia has the same Special Attack as Rayquaza's Special Defense.

[polar canyon]

And lugia doesn't have a great type into the current meta

Probably a key factor too

[stone trellis]

Yep.

Also lacks a super powerful move with a 50% chance to cripple physical attackers.

[polar canyon]

Just not in danger from 3 of the big threats around

[stone trellis]

And Regenerator.

[next stump]

It was actually really easy but I got a crucial read right in one of our games to win turn 1

@nocturne holly

[foggy lodge]

They did that until level 47 were they realized it was suboptimal lol

[polar canyon]

Until they realized purposefully lowering every stat of a pokemon was hurting them

[rancid path]

can anyone please advice my team
garchomp hydreigon incineroar alolan ninetails gholdengo porygon2

[foggy lodge]

Sounds fine

[rancid path]

do i need to change anything

[knotty briar]

Garchomp is unexpected for reg H

[rancid path]

how abt reg h

[knotty briar]

Sorry forgot reg H was the reg with no paradox or legends

I'd personally go ursaluna over garchomp, but that's just my personal opinion

[rancid path]

oh thanks

but can u help me out with my team

[craggy dagger]

looks pretty good to me
guess it depends on the moveset now

chomp dreigon might be a little iffy when you face ice types or fairy types but you have dengo for that

[rancid path]

i think im missing something after playing

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/Yoshiandlugia/status/1957103742567813414

Fiona Szymkiewicz 🏳️‍🌈 (@Yoshiandlugia)

I think knowledge of your own team is such an underrated skill in VGC. Gio has been using these 6 since Reg I came out. It was a common team in the beginning of Reg I and everyone dropped it because they felt it was dated. Matchup and team knowledge is important to success

X · Aug 17, 2025, 3:34 PM

[stone trellis]

Where on Flutter Mane should I put the Focus Sash?

[forest arrow]

Maybe some redirection?

[craggy dagger]

for scribbles?
or teambuilding-

[forest arrow]

I know P2 Ursa teams usually run both incin and Amoongus

[stone trellis]

(I'm still doing the drawing)

[craggy dagger]

why not uh
this might be a bit unorthodox but why not string its neck beads with the sash?

[stone trellis]

So I was doing this drawing of the teams that the Worlds finalists are using, but I fucked up when drawing Koraidon's Life Orb and I have to start over again.

[stone trellis]

That won't be very visible, will it?

[craggy dagger]

or you could have it as a headband…
though that’ll make it look more like a focus band

[stone trellis]

I can tie it around one of its wings (?).

[craggy dagger]

ig so

[stone trellis]

Ursaluna just burning alive would be the funniest.

[forest arrow]

It could wear it like a headband

[chrome knot]

nobanoba

[pulsar cloak]

This is why I'll be running P2 Sneasler balance for all of Reg H

[chrome knot]

goat

[stone trellis]

And as for Lunala, I have no ideas.

[foggy lodge]

Is there a way to make P2 balance work without Incin lol

[craggy dagger]

hi emma

[chrome knot]

haaiiiii

[craggy dagger]

been a while
how have you been doing?

[chrome knot]

vry good ^-^ out to breakfast with kat atm

[craggy dagger]

aw
sounds nice
hope you enjoy

[chrome knot]

thanksies

how’ve you been nova?

[knotty mirage]

Damn now i really wish marshadow is available on SV just imagine using spectral thief agains't omni boosted dondozo

[craggy dagger]

i’ve been okay
lots of workie and procrastination

[rancid path]

is the 0iv attack really needed in team comp?

[nocturne holly]

No need to disrespect him like that 🙏
Jk

That’s good tho
Excited to see what you’ll do next year

[next stump]

it’s helpful but not make or break

if you’re fully new to the game I wouldn’t stress that much

[rancid path]

alr thanks sirr!!

[chrome knot]

aur naur

[nocturne holly]

Anyone watching unite stream

[dull ibex]

hello

[craggy dagger]

[forest arrow]

Meep

[stone trellis]

Do you guys know where I can find a good 3D model of Flutter Mane?

[solid frigate]

Meep Meep

[nocturne holly]

probably the 3d model shop

[stone trellis]

Even Sketchfab, the site that I usually go to in order to find 3D models, only has Minecraft-ish models for it and Brute Bonnet.

[foggy lodge]

Well this is how my worlds predictions went

4/9💀

[short quiver]

i forgot iron valiant existed

[stone trellis]

So you went 4 for 9.

Not bad.

[foggy lodge]

Tbf

Technically Zama CSR was right because it had like an insane usage

But it didn't win the whole thing

[forest arrow]

People slept on Rockpon

[stone trellis]

I feel like CSR-Zamazenta will be the next Big Six in terms of performance, where it does really well at events, but doesn't end up winning extremely often.

[nocturne holly]

Why didn’t hirofumi fake out Gios bonnet in the second game

It put caly to sleep because of it

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 986: Brute Bonnet

Types

Grass/Dark

Abilities

Protosynthesis

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

111/127/99/79/99/55

Total

570

Sableye version 4.28.2

Pokémon No. 591: Amoonguss

Types

Grass/Poison

Abilities

Effect Spore, Regenerator (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

114/85/70/85/80/30

Total

464

Sableye version 4.28.2

[nocturne holly]

Brute bonnet was actually insane in that game

Rage powder against the smeargle and the sucker punch pressure

[foggy lodge]

Ayo this might be true

[next stump]

Agreed, I think he overthought that board state

He was very low with Koraidon so he might have been worried that Flare Blitz into Chi-Yu results in him dying

and Low Kick risks tera ghost

so he went for a middle of the ground play of protect Koraidon + attack Chi-Yu with Incin but in reality that’s almost always worse

[molten oasis]

Eeeehhhhh

Did korai CIR really pop off much?

[foggy lodge]

It got top 4

You really be doubting CIR Korai atp

[solid frigate]

yeah Hirofumi got top 4 with it

i think during one moment me and Monke just laughed uncontrollably on one thing

[nocturne holly]

Oh so he takes less recoil

yea I think that’s turn was the deciding one

or one of them

[molten oasis]

oh

it was top 4, ok, i didn't know that

[bold geode]

How's the stream going?

[craggy dagger]

you

[bold geode]

Whatchu want stinky

[craggy dagger]

idk i just wanted to say hi

also i’m not stinky…

[solid frigate]

lol

[bold geode]

Hello

[solid frigate]

lobotomy.

[foggy lodge]

Go finals

Long time until vgc

[bold geode]

Age division?

[jade dust]

When is vgc?

[bold geode]

Scheduled for 6pm CST but like
It might be longer
Check in around that time

[foggy lodge]

There's an schedule in the youtube chat

[bold geode]

This isn't Masters is it

[foggy lodge]

Yes its masters

[bold geode]

Damn ok

[foggy lodge]

I don't think go has age divisions right?

[bold geode]

Then TCG is up next
Actually might be on time idk

[bold geode]

Think it does?

[craggy dagger]

[foggy lodge]

Nah

Atleast I didn't find any like go juniors finals or something

You might be on time for VG finals TCG sets are like one hour long

And its 3 sets because its juniors seniors and masters

I don't play pogo I need someone to explain me why is there a galarian corsola in worlds finals

[craggy dagger]

um

[foggy lodge]

P4toman is so crazy is like THE dude that wins every tournament or almost every tournament

[bold geode]

Cuz there can be

[craggy dagger]

gorsola in go is pretty good iirc

[foggy lodge]

That doesn't happen in VGC or TCG

[craggy dagger]

iirc official go tournaments limits your pokémon’s CP to 1500 and gorsola is really easy to get to exactly 1500

[dull ibex]

welp i went from doing nothing but winning to doing nothing but losing

thinking about switching teams again ngl

[bold geode]

Really just like
You will have bad days

[craggy dagger]

[dull ibex]

this isn't fun anymore though

im willing to stick to the team

but man

[bold geode]

Meh
Idk I mean
You can switch if you want but I also wouldn't make a habit of like
Switching teams everytime you're on a losing streak

[dull ibex]

fair

[craggy dagger]

i mean
it’s good to stick to a team for at least a week if not a month-
if you keep on switching teams often, it’ll usually result you being in a weird state where you use previous team playstyle on your current one and it might not match
that being said, switching it up once in a while is quite fun cuz you learn new things

[foggy lodge]

I need to find a team

@bold geode comp helper help me get a team for Regulation H VGC 2025

[bold geode]

Corviknight
You're welcome

[craggy dagger]

ew

[dull ibex]

I want to use armarogue in regulation h

[foggy lodge]

Thanks comp helper
Now I have a team

[bold geode]

No problem

[foggy lodge]

But I wish a comp helper gave me a good team

[craggy dagger]

lmao

[dull ibex]

@bold geode comp helper fix my broken marriage

[bold geode]

Ok
Corviknight
You're welcome

[craggy dagger]

monke monke
gimme a reg H duo to build around

[bold geode]

Surprise me honestly LMAO

[bold geode]

Can't fix what doesn't exist

[dull ibex]

Says you

[bold geode]

Nuh Uh

[dull ibex]

yuh huh

[craggy dagger]

ok then
how niche or stupid do you want it

like
scale of 1-10, 1 being full serious and 10 being like
wtf is that team

[chrome knot]

nobaaaaa

[craggy dagger]

emma!!

[chrome knot]

haiiiii

[solid frigate]

Me waiting for Masters division be like

[craggy dagger]

hellouuu
afternoon going well?

[chrome knot]

haaiiiii yus

aquarium date

[bold void]

Have the finals happened yet?

[foggy lodge]

We're in go finals rn

AV Pao outperformed sash Pao at worlds

Idk what to think about that

[craggy dagger]

luckyyyy

[bold geode]

20

[crimson vector]

I made it

[foggy lodge]

congrats

[nocturne holly]

like 6-7

https://tenor.com/view/6-7-taylen-kinney-skrilla-doot-doot-taylen-gif-908213130658042049

R u guys gonna start playing reg h or j

This channel should have a showdown reg h tournament

[foggy lodge]

Reg H because reg J is fake

[nocturne holly]

reg j hate is forced

it’s just reg I + like arc and magearna

[foggy lodge]

Precissely that's why its shit

[solid frigate]

yeah and most mythicals are not worth it for the restricted slot

and oppoturnity cost on using Arceus is really high

[dense latch]

making mythicals count as restricteds kinda ruins the point of the format existing

make a separate restriction for them or something

or better yet let people play reg h on cart

[nocturne holly]

Yea why is there no reg h on cart

Better yet bring back reg c🙏

Or d

or when did shifu become legal

[solid frigate]

Or just

1 Restricted Pokémon (base list)+1 mythicals

Like you can’t use Korai Lunala or Arceus Magerena in the same team but CIR Magerena can

[nocturne holly]

I think that’d make it so only like arceus and magearna get used in the mythical slot

[foggy lodge]

Isn't that not any different from reg J

[nocturne holly]

Reg j u can use normal reg i teams

[solid frigate]

Maybe if they don’t make the Mythicals ass

[nocturne holly]

What even is the point of the mythical class

Like what does it add to the franchise or lore

[solid frigate]

The rarity

That’s it

[dense latch]

movies

[craggy dagger]

….

fine

[foggy lodge]

Reg I is already over and Eternatus didn't do shit💔

[bold geode]

Nah it's goated trust

Last minute Eternatus team, let's go

[foggy lodge]

Yes

@bold geode comp helper buy me a fly to Anaheim so I can arrive from last minute and defeat the world champion with Eternatus

[craggy dagger]

there
do what you will with it

https://pokepast.es/aab060709033318e

@bold geode

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 1011: Dipplin

Types

Grass/Dragon

Abilities

Supersweet Syrup, Gluttony, Sticky Hold (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

80/80/110/95/80/40

Total

485

Sableye version 4.28.2

[bold geode]

Nah me first

[nocturne holly]

Yo chat what happened to hydrapple

[bold geode]

Based

[nocturne holly]

I remember drago tried doing stuff with it in like early reg

[bold geode]

Tofu did give me the Snorlax stamp of approval

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 1019: Hydrapple

Types

Grass/Dragon

Abilities

Supersweet Syrup, Regenerator, Sticky Hold (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

106/80/110/120/80/44

Total

540

Sableye version 4.28.2

[Latest Gen] Dipplin

Defense Curl:

• As Applin as an egg move

Sableye version 4.28.2

[dense latch]

252+ Atk Tera-Rock Dipplin Rollout (960 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Ursaluna: 312-368 (131.6 - 155.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[bold geode]

Aight time to watch TCG and try to understand Mandarin

[tiny karma]

Move: Rollout

If this move is successful, the user is locked into this move and cannot make another move until it misses, 5 turns have passed, or the attack cannot be used. Power doubles with each successful hit of this move and doubles again if Defense Curl was used previously by the user. If this move is called by Sleep Talk, the move is used for one turn.

Type

Rock

Category

Physical

Power

30

Accuracy

90

PP (max)

20 (32)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[stone trellis]

Didn't it cap at 480?

[dense latch]

defense curl doubles it

that's y i checked if it learns it

[stone trellis]

Oh.

[nocturne holly]

Someone in the chat said “hope Wolfe wins his next match in masters” 💔🥀

[foggy lodge]

Juniors tcg ended

[foggy lodge]

💔

[stone trellis]

I didn't get to finish the drawing in time...

[stone trellis]

Why can I never finish the stuff I want to finish?

Why are there no fucking normal sprites of Flutter Mane and Brute Bonnet that I don't have to pay for?

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2423416324-d9nadigoc10uadu88dovo3n9103cx7opw

rain is so funny :3

[chrome knot]

ngl aquarium dates are like my top1 favourite things

cutest form of lovey ^-^

[bold geode]

What about zoos

[chrome knot]

aquarium >

theres just something alot cuter with the dimmed lights & sea life

[bold geode]

Fair
I just like seeing monkeys

[molten oasis]

Yeah, in reg f

It’s not a good Mon

[short quiver]

chat my team hasnt burnt the kitchen yet im still cooking

whoever said dual doggos wouldn’t work

[molten oasis]

[short quiver]

im not using ttar though

im using raichu (kanto)

[chrome knot]

hi right here, what rank are you playing in😭

[short quiver]

currently great ball but ive been pretty consistent with my wins

https://tenor.com/view/furret-pokemon-cute-gif-17963577

my only struggle has been opposing Zamazenta

[chrome knot]

so we’re not rly playing games😭

but im proud of you keep going

[short quiver]

as for the bikes

miraidon who

[stone trellis]

This is everything I managed to do with the drawing of the finalists' teams. I fucked up the Life Orb and then made another drawing, but in that one I fucked up the Life Orb again AND Koraidon's head was too big, so here we are.

[forest arrow]

Dang good work friend

[stone trellis]

Really?

[forest arrow]

Yeah fs, I couldn’t draw that lol

[stone trellis]

I thought it looked pretty shit.

Thank you.

[forest arrow]

Nah bro, I feel artists critique their own work to harshly it looks great

Ofc ❤️

[stone trellis]

I just realised I could use the Pokedex app to have references for the mons...

It doesn't work on Ursaluna, Lunala or CSR, but still...

[knotty briar]

Holy shit that looks incredible

[stone trellis]

Thanks, but I think you people might have low standards.

[real prairie]

I do not, this is good work

[solid frigate]

https://x.com/JoeyPokeaim/status/1956474032297005458

Lmao Pokeaim

Tempo | Pokeaim (@JoeyPokeaim)

1 Ho-Oh. Go my child

X · Aug 15, 2025, 9:52 PM

[knotty briar]

As someone who used to sketch pokemon back in high school (I would spend an hour correcting a single line), this looks incredible

[stone trellis]

What do you like about this?

[real prairie]

you have good perspective and attention to detail whilst retaining good scaling, early colourwork is also good

(I studied art)

[knotty briar]

What I personally like most is Koraidon holding the life orb
Chi-Yu is masterfully done as well
Can't wait to see the finished product

I used to just sketch the pokemon themselves
I never added an item

Prime example of one of my high school drawings

[real prairie]

I'm a semi decent artist lol

[chrome knot]

holy shit

why is jack good at everything

[real prairie]

You flatter me

thank you

assuming you are not being sarcastic lol

[chrome knot]

why would i be

that is vry impressive

[knotty briar]

Yeah that's crazy
I can't draw from my head
The most I can do is look at a picture and copy it

[forest arrow]

Impressive shading, I’m trying to find an old drawing I did in school

[real prairie]

yeah thats one frrom my school days, a bit rushed tbh.

School put me off art, haven't drawn in maybe 10-15 years

[knotty briar]

Definitely been at least a decade for me

[forest arrow]

Same, my teacher would take my work and say it wasn’t good because it wasn’t to her liking

[real prairie]

last art thing i did was a commission for 3d octopus

[forest arrow]

Meanwhile everyone else loves it

[knotty briar]

I would finish my work as fast as possible so I could draw in between classes

[real prairie]

mine was because the whole course was about art history which is mind numbing

[knotty briar]

Bro, that is crazy

[forest arrow]

Ewww a music appreciation class I had did that, and I was like bro when do I learn to play anything

[knotty briar]

That's the very thing that caused me to lose interest in art

[real prairie]

more focus on old artists than inspiring new ones or telling you what real jobs you could get with art

[knotty briar]

Yeah the most I do now is some editing to make memes...

[real prairie]

i didnt find out about graphics design or app design jobs until i was already working

[chrome knot]

would u do vgc art c:

[molten oasis]

That’s insane

Wdym decent you’re really good

[real prairie]

me?

[chrome knot]

yus

[stone trellis]

This is entirely unrelated, but should Ursaluna be burning alive or should it just have the Flame Orb in its mouth?

[real prairie]

I mean, i was really good, im decent now as im 15 years rusty lol

[molten oasis]

It’s still good

My fucking fat fingers dude

[real prairie]

hanging off a collar?

[stone trellis]

Why would a bear have a collar?

[real prairie]

domesticated bear lol

it listens to instructions

[stone trellis]

"Back off, Princess! Don't maul that 8-year-old child!"

But yeah, fair point.

[chrome knot]

headlong rush

[stone trellis]

Doesn't James have an Assault Vest Bolt?

[real prairie]

thatll be run to draw LOL

big long neck with an assault vest haha

[real prairie]

oh so you weren't being sarcastic haha, fewww

[stone trellis]

What is James' full team? Koraidon, CSR, Bolt, Bonnet, Incineroar and who else? And what are their items?

[knotty briar]

Flame orb with a small fire on the arm or back

[forest arrow]

James has Lando I

[stone trellis]

LANDO T IN WORLDS FINALS?

[molten oasis]

Huh?

[knotty briar]

It's lando I

[forest arrow]

or I

My bad lol

[stone trellis]

So should he have the Life Orb balancing on his tail?

And what about the two Brute Bonnets?

[knotty briar]

One hidden in a cloak
One having a half eaten sitrus berry

[stone trellis]

Having it where?

On its head?

[molten oasis]

Lmao

Dude we can’t escape landorous

[stone trellis]

It can't exactly hold the Berry, it doesn't have fucking hands.

[molten oasis]

Doesn’t matter what form it’s always relevant

[knotty briar]

That would be funny
Though I was thinking "holding" it or on the ground by its feet

[stone trellis]

Also wait, does James' Incineroar have the Rocky Helmet?

[chrome knot]

bounce it on his head and make him look more playful

[knotty briar]

This should answer any item questions

[stone trellis]

Thank you, kind sir.

[knotty briar]

Bonnet has a tail
Sitrus could be there

[stone trellis]

Just impaled on its tail?

[knotty briar]

Or treat the sitrus like it's growing from the shroom cap

[molten oasis]

I’ve always kinda imagined the orbs are on necklaces or something

[stone trellis]

I kind of want to make Koraidon's have a few cracks on it.

[forest arrow]

The clear amulet?

[knotty briar]

Lorb has cracks regular doesn't
That would be sick

Cracks representing the lorb damage would be awesome

[molten oasis]

[real prairie]

To answer your question, I could be convinced lol

[stone trellis]

Also representing the fact that it has the grip strength of a fucking hydraulic press.

[knotty briar]

I laughed way harder than I should have

[stone trellis]

I think I should also use different animations as references for the two Koraidon and Brute Bonnets.

[nocturne holly]

What’s one stream

[forest arrow]

Tcg

[stone trellis]

The only problem is that I'll eventually have to do the background as well...

[nocturne holly]

masters?

[knotty briar]

Definitely
Also Lunala holding the power herb in its mouth is probably the way to go

[molten oasis]

We will be on tcg forever

Tcg takes so long for whatever reason

[knotty briar]

Lunala consumes the power herb for meteor beam after all

[forest arrow]

Masters is about to start

Seniors just ended

[chrome knot]

gabriel lost?

[forest arrow]

Yeah

[stone trellis]

Someone in DMs had the idea of the Power Herb kinda floating here.

Apologies for the shitty low res picture.

But yeah, good idea.

[knotty briar]

It's fine and honestly I can picture it

[forest arrow]

I was thinking the same, like the stem in it mouth like a toothpick

Then when it uses meteor beam, it flicks the leaf into its mouth

[stone trellis]

Excellent idea.

So should the Focus Sash be around CSR's neck or around Spectrier's neck?

[forest arrow]

Hmmm

[knotty briar]

Calyrex arm

[molten oasis]

I’d imagine sash on the head or arm

[knotty briar]

It's a sash, not a scarf

[stone trellis]

Fair point.

I wish Chi-Yu could have had the Choice Scarf literally anywhere else, honestly.

[forest arrow]

Yeah put it on Calyrex, since it’s the host

[molten oasis]

I think Ursa should have the flame orb in its mouth

[forest arrow]

I agree

[molten oasis]

It stands on all 4 legs it wouldn’t hold it

[forest arrow]

Although the bear burning alive idea was hilarious

[real prairie]

duplicate the power herb and have it like an aura or cloak

confetti-ish

[knotty briar]

Ursaluna having a ring of fire on it's back would be sick

[stone trellis]

I couldn't find the sick-ass YouTube thumbnail with Thanos in it.

[forest arrow]

Imagine Ursaluna in a mean looking pose, but just covered in flames

Would be sick

Holding the flame orb in its mouth

[real prairie]

could take away some of its fur and give it burn marks 🤔

[stone trellis]

YES

THAT'S PERFECT

[knotty briar]

Bro that is a kickass idea

[forest arrow]

Dang my idea was so perfect he didn’t use periods

lol

/just playing

[nocturne holly]

LMAOO

[stone trellis]

I was talking about Jack's idea, not yours.

[nocturne holly]

r u actually 16

[stone trellis]

Yours is still good, don't get me wrong.

[forest arrow]

Ouch lol

[stone trellis]

Yeah, why?

[nocturne holly]

Why do u use punctuation and grammar

[molten oasis]

What is wrong with that?

[forest arrow]

The mental herb idea does sound cool tho for a ghost psychic type

Have them floating around it

[stone trellis]

I picked this whole thing up right around February 2022 and I just kind of got used to it.

[real prairie]

new generation don't type like the degen MSN users

[molten oasis]

Literally nothing wrong with using punctuation

[knotty briar]

Bro, I'm in my late twenties and sometimes use proper punctuation and grammar.

[forest arrow]

Nothing wrong with it I was just trying to be funny

[nocturne holly]

drop it right back down 💔

[stone trellis]

Make me.

[knotty briar]

That's right, Paul! Use proper grammar and punctuation!

[nocturne holly]

you already did.

When someone had the most fantastical idea!

[stone trellis]

I never commit to the bit fully.

[nocturne holly]

Wait so it’s a bit??

[forest arrow]

It was supposed to be a bit

[knotty briar]

The less intelligent fear those who know how to use proper grammar.

[stone trellis]

I have my own set of rules for when I use punctuation and when I don't, but they're about as long as that Loud House fanfic.

[forest arrow]

I didn’t mean for it to turn into this lol

[nocturne holly]

loud house WHAT

[stone trellis]

Oh fuck, phrasing.

[dense latch]

using proper grammar forces me to click two extra buttons im not doing that

[knotty briar]

Tbh, I use proper grammar when autocorrect makes me lol

[nocturne holly]

exactly

[stone trellis]

Yeah, there was this fanfic based on the Loud House that was close to 17 million words.

[dense latch]

that's a few hundred milliseconds im never getting back

[nocturne holly]

I only use periods when writing essay and asking chat gpt to write them

[real prairie]

you young'uns are confusing me

[stone trellis]

You use ChatGPT?

[nocturne holly]

No

[stone trellis]

Figures.

[nocturne holly]

Not for essays
That my bit

[stone trellis]

You killed chat.

How does that make you feel?

[real prairie]

behave children lol

[stone trellis]

Shut up, grandpa. Go back to bed.

[real prairie]

🤣

[stone trellis]

I'll have to go to bed soon too.

[molten oasis]

I have to work

[wheat orbit]

So im just sorta curious why is smeargle viable again? What'd they do unban dark void?

[dull ibex]

spore, decorate, follow me, protect, wide guard, fake out

[molten oasis]

Not why it’s good

Smeargle is very good role compression

[dull ibex]

every viable support smeargle gets

also dark void sucks

[forest arrow]

Might as well use spiky shield if you’re gonna use protect

[nocturne holly]

How much play did bonnet see before wcs

[craggy dagger]

any outing tbh
but an aquarium would prolly be my fav place cuz i like ocean creatures :3

[nocturne holly]

Crazy it’s guaranteed worlds now

[dull ibex]

did someone win worlds yet

[nocturne holly]

not for vgc

[forest arrow]

No it’s masters TCG rn

VGC is after this

[molten oasis]

Can’t wait tbh

Was expecting CSR Zama mirror, but it’s not

[nocturne holly]

Juniors is gonna be cool

[forest arrow]

Can’t wait to see what the Juniors and Seniors cooked up too lol

[nocturne holly]

Oranguru

[chrome knot]

i just like how comfy it is

[nocturne holly]

do you think there’s a different metagame between juniors and seniors and masters

Prolly not because they all ladder on the same thing right - showdown or cart

[dense latch]

there's some slight differences as to what ends up doing well

juniors lean more into hyper offense, i see a lot of specs eforce CSR doing really well

but they still share most of the meta with the other divisions

[nocturne holly]

That’s interesting

[real prairie]

young people wanting to just click buttons, I am not surprised lol

[dull ibex]

I want to play more HO

[foggy lodge]

WAIT DID THE SENIORS PLAYER WITH PERFECT SEASON LOSE??

[molten oasis]

You always wanna play HO

[nocturne holly]

HO is boring

[dense latch]

yea ):

[foggy lodge]

NOOOOOOOOOOOO

[nocturne holly]

who

[dull ibex]

everyone has preferences

[foggy lodge]

That's so fucking sad actually

[molten oasis]

[dense latch]

senior tcg player that had won the three ICs and maxed out his championship points

[molten oasis]

Did you not like korai CSR?

[dense latch]

got to finals but lost 2-1

[foggy lodge]

He is a regional champion too

[dull ibex]

me?

[dense latch]

2x iirc

[foggy lodge]

Won 3 ICs I think 2 regionals and maxed out locals and points

[dense latch]

which is insane

[foggy lodge]

And he maxed out points like in the middle of the season

Shows how hard is worlds even in seniors

[nocturne holly]

Maxing out championship points dam

[molten oasis]

Yea

[dull ibex]

didn't really play it

[bold geode]

Crazy

[dense latch]

i was watching tcg but i got tired of pretending i had any idea of what was going on

[bold geode]

Real

I don't understand Mandarin bro

That's how it feels

[forest arrow]

Game 2 TCG Masters

[waxen dock]

Balance is boring

[nocturne holly]

how is it only 2

[bold geode]

Yeah they understand cards? Nerd

[nocturne holly]

is it bo3?

[forest arrow]

Yes

[dense latch]

trying to add an extension and twitch is asking me to renew my tax info 😭 let me watch pokemon in peace

[forest arrow]

Brother what

[nocturne holly]

Balance is fun

[waxen dock]

Ho is fun

[nocturne holly]

To each their own

HO is less rewarding to me than balance is

[molten oasis]

I prefer balance

But HO is pretty fun, rewards positioning and target prioritization pretty well

[bold geode]

Just evade your taxes dumbass

[molten oasis]

Sir

[foggy lodge]

btw @bold geode didn't Zama CSR outperform CSR Zama at worlds

[foggy lodge]

No I mean

[bold geode]

Did I just have a fucking stroke

[molten oasis]

I’m dying

[foggy lodge]

You know how you can tell if someone was a Zama or CSR player in reg G based ok their CSR Zama team lmao

[bold geode]

LMAO

Y'know what yeah sure

It sure did

Actually y'know what
Call me crazy
But I feel the offensive variant resembles Zam a bit more

[foggy lodge]

The Pao ones?

[bold geode]

Yeah

[foggy lodge]

Yeah fs

Tho Michael was the Zama player in reg G and Montana the CSR player

[molten oasis]

Did av pao outpace sash?

[forest arrow]

Yes

[foggy lodge]

And both used the same team and Montana did better

[foggy lodge]

There were 2 AV pao in top 8

And those two Paos were the only ones in top 8 lol

[molten oasis]

Wow

[foggy lodge]

https://victoryroad.pro/2025-worlds/

[molten oasis]

Av pao is real asf

[foggy lodge]

Teams are up in victory road

[foggy lodge]

Fr

I still fuck more with sash or life orb

[molten oasis]

Paonite had a comeback too damn

[foggy lodge]

I love Chien-Pao he has won me a lot of elo

[foggy lodge]

Mhm

[molten oasis]

Chien pao is goated

It’s just a goated mon

[foggy lodge]

I don't remember who made the original team

I have to search it

[forest arrow]

And we get Chien Poo soon

[molten oasis]

Chien Poo!

[fringe dagger]

wait is it on?

[forest arrow]

No I think the 24th

[molten oasis]

Alright fellas got a question

Will chi yu throw worlds?

[forest arrow]

hmmm

[molten oasis]

It’s chi yu

[forest arrow]

Chi Yu moment says yes

[molten oasis]

Would lowkey be so funny but so sad

[foggy lodge]

Oh it was this person https://fixupx.com/icho_poke/status/1951072722689335390

ぎんなん (@icho_poke)

最高2051を2回踏んで2回とも負けて終了…
︀︀最終はたぶん10番代だと思います
︀︀悔しい…

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FixupX · Aug 1, 2025, 12:09 AM

[stone trellis]

Also, one last question.