Who's on the main stream and who's on the side?
#competitive_discussion
stone trellis
foggy lodge
there are 0 urshifus left
stone trellis
But there are four Incineroars, right?
foggy lodge
pick your poison urshifu or smeargle
forest arrow
2 incins
stone trellis
So it's only a 50% chance.
molten oasis
there are 0 urshifus left
Shifu died? Damn
molten oasis
Is miraidon out?
forest arrow
yes no Mirai
dense latch
incin get your 4th ring goat
molten oasis
What are the final teams?
stone trellis
The Winged King pulling another ridiculous performance out of his ass:
foggy lodge
btw fraud prediction was so wrong Korainala is top 4 lmao
dense latch
X
jade dust
Is it possible we see Gio and Hiro in the final?
molten oasis
3/4 calys
jade dust
How is the bracket layout?
stone trellis
Is it possible we see Gio and Hiro in the final?
Definitely.
molten oasis
I hope Gio wins
foggy lodge
Is it possible we see Gio and Hiro in the final?
no they play now
torn parrot
Umm
stone trellis
Oh.
dense latch
How is the bracket layout?
right above you
torn parrot
Is that a reg G team or an error
forest arrow
Korai CSR Korai CIR Korai Lunala and CSR Zama
jade dust
I wanted to see them in the final
forest arrow
I love that board
torn parrot
Zeng chenyue is that an error
foggy lodge
Is that a reg G team or an error
its an error
torn parrot
Gotcha
nocturne holly
Montana vs hirofumi finale
forest arrow
Montana vs hirofumi finale
Gio wins in it
foggy lodge
but he didnt play here
jade dust
Unfortunately we can’t have Gio Hiro final
molten oasis
Wait wtf there’s TWO brute bonnet
foggy lodge
lmfao
forest arrow
goat bonnet
foggy lodge
ITS FULL OF SPORES
nocturne holly
# Gio wins in it
uhhhhhhh NO
jade dust
The final is tomorrow right?
nocturne holly
Wait wtf there’s TWO brute bonnet
How many amoonguss
molten oasis
SPORE!
polar canyon
Chat asking "which one is wolfey" looking at the standings so far these people aren't real
solid frigate
lmao
nocturne holly
How are there more bonnets than amoonguss
molten oasis
its 2 bonnets 1 amoonguss and 1 smeargle
Miraidon isn’t here to stop them now
nocturne holly
Who has the. Amoonguss
dense latch
maxi juanfi did it again
fringe dagger
Chat asking "which one is wolfey" looking at the standings so far these people a...
didnt wolfey get out like ages ago
polar canyon
Yes
dense latch
surely he's done right
fringe dagger
the chat was filled with wolfe and ppl mourning the ho oh player
nocturne holly
Montana has the only amoonguss he has to win
polar canyon
Go James
dense latch
i always hide chat when im watching worlds or any major for that matter
polar canyon
Bonnet is cool
jade dust
Alright I respect Montana for making it this far, but if we can eliminate zama csr in this round
I’ll be happy
dense latch
you'll be in stockholm regionals and have ppl asking where wolfe is
polar canyon
the chat was filled with wolfe and ppl mourning the ho oh player
Ho-oh is understandable
Can't believe mr. oh is not a world champ
foggy lodge
someone wrote good luck in the back of the landorus plush lmao
jade dust
Let’s go James
solid frigate
Ho-oh is understandable
cuz that is hype
Like the biggest winner of worlds
nocturne holly
What’s the next stream game
knotty briar
As someone who occasionally uses Koraidon CSR, LET'S GO JAMES!!!
jade dust
Finals is tomorrow right?
nocturne holly
he is a world champion in seniors
Is he actually??
solid frigate
Finals is tomorrow right?
yeah
foggy lodge
yes
jade dust
Fuck
nocturne holly
that’d be insane winning wcs senior and masters
polar canyon
At least one smeargle is making it to finals 🥀
fringe dagger
james has a good matchup into montanas team 
stone trellis
Since the finals will be at around 3 AM for me, I don't want any spoilers for who won beforehand.
knotty briar
Another Zama CSR...
jade dust
Let’s go James
fringe dagger
montana plssss
polar canyon
Rooting for James because I feel like his team is better suited vs smeargle
knotty briar
Yes! No more horse dogs!!!
foggy lodge
DRAGONITE LETS GOOOOOOOOO
stone trellis
Let’s eliminate zama csr right here
Drop them like Fede got dropped by Dillon.
polar canyon
Yes! No more horse dogs!!!
Calyrex smeargle is still that
jade dust
Tru
solid frigate
its basically rn is
Koraidon vs Zamazenta
Who gets their redeption
polar canyon
Long preparation
knotty briar
I'm willing to wait as long as it's a kickass match
fringe dagger
zacian not being in top 8 yesterday was genuinely sad
fringe dagger
NEMONAS THEME LES GOO
foggy lodge
jade dust
NEMONAS THEME LES GOO
She’s hot
fringe dagger
watch the finals match theme be the east province battle theme or something
knotty briar
Sucker into CSR and have Koraidon attack Zamazenta
That's probably the play
foggy lodge
GREEN DNITE LETS GOOOOOOO
knotty briar
And he still has a perfectly healthy CSR in the back
fringe dagger
the hero we needed
foggy lodge
oops extreme speed
jade dust
James had a really strong turn 1
knotty briar
Last mon is probably Chien-Pao
nocturne holly
Who’s playing?
knotty briar
James Evans vs Montana Mott
fringe dagger
i cant watch bro this shit is nerve wracking
foggy lodge
its over
pao in the back just wins
WAIT IT SURVIVED
if spore to dnite he can win
fringe dagger
gg
foggy lodge
ITS RAGING
fringe dagger
knotty briar
Game 1 goes to James
foggy lodge
yes
nocturne holly
James Evans vs Montana Mott
Who’s winning
foggy lodge
why not pao huh
next stump
super well played by james
foggy lodge
ig he is afraid of koraidon to bring pao
forest arrow
Let’s Go James
fringe dagger
yeah
solid frigate
COME ON KORAIDON
solid frigate
Evans won game 1
forest arrow
James won g1
knotty briar
super well played by james
I know I said this yesterday, but seriously, congrats on doing better than Marco Silva at worlds
nocturne holly
@foggy lodge James is more attractive than victor
solid frigate
LMAO
foggy lodge
<@797571447118757910> James is more attractive than victor
he looks fine but idk he has the broccoli haircut
forest arrow
<@797571447118757910> James is more attractive than victor
Nah Victor is hot
nocturne holly
it fits him
knotty briar
Now this is interesting
polar canyon
Probably so many layers of psychology on that sucker punch on calyrex because at first glance it's so obvious and that's the whole point
foggy lodge
i dont like that haicut personally
knotty briar
Protect swap to bonnet is probably the play
fringe dagger
yeah
foggy lodge
he would still fit in the list of most attractive players
nocturne holly
What about unattractive
forest arrow
What about unattractive
You
fringe dagger
montana is going aggressive and i think thats gonna bite him at one point but idk how
solid frigate
Flame Charge+Spore
knotty briar
Now he's free to fire move Amoongus and spore Calyrex
dense latch
What about unattractive
🙋♂️
solid frigate
flame charge Kills it no?
fringe dagger
flame charge Kills it no?
it does
forest arrow
Oh no I’m scared 🥀
forest arrow
🏃🏻
knotty briar
Flame charge and spore or rage powder is probably the play
nocturne holly
I’ve switched to James
knotty briar
Now he can sucker cc
nocturne holly
James vs. hirofumi
knotty briar
Sucker cc is still the play
nocturne holly
It’s over
next stump
I know I said this yesterday, but seriously, congrats on doing better than Marco...
LOL thank you ♥️
gentle cragBOT
LOL thank you ♥️
mlbd has given 1 Gen Rep to bman54319
fringe dagger
montana is going aggressive and i think thats gonna bite him at one point but id...
called it
knotty briar
Yeah definitely over
forest arrow
KORAIDON WINS WORLDS LETS FUCKING GOOO
solid frigate
LFG KORAIDON GUARANTEED
knotty briar
James Evans moves on to the finals!
nocturne holly
Power creep is real
dense latch
LETS GO KORAI
nocturne holly
The two worlds the gen9 legends were allowed they each won
polar canyon
James wins this
dense latch
insane run by montana too
next stump
quick little $15000 earned by Montana
fringe dagger
insane run by montana too
yeah
jade dust
LETS GO JAMES
solid frigate
dense latch
quick little $15000 earned by Montana
top 4 is 15k now? sick
jade dust
Good job Montana
next stump
crazy that these players are playing $5000-10,000 money matches essentially
jade dust
My respects to Montana
lean ridge
Scarlet players up good
foggy lodge
KORAIDON IS A WORLD CHAMPPION
nocturne holly
crazy that these players are playing $5000-10,000 money matches essentially
That adds a whole new perspective to it lmao
next stump
top 4 is 15k now? sick
foggy lodge
WHAT
dense latch
oh i didnt realize it was that high from the beginning
next stump
Not even counting the extra thousands of dollars you get in exclusive prizing
dense latch
i thought they scaled different mb
next stump
So you probably make like $30,000+ from a Top 4 if you find collectors for the swag
jade dust
All I got was $100 for winning a smash tournament
next stump
all good 🙂 I love the prizing in this game
jade dust
$100 for 1st
next stump
it’s so much better than other comparative games
lean ridge
Yea one of my friends in unite said the money comes more from the merchandise than the actual cash prizing
jade dust
Very underpaid
nocturne holly
Hirofumi boutta coook
forest arrow
Nah Gio
dense latch
what does tcg's prize pool look like
next stump
Yea one of my friends in unite said the money comes more from the merchandise th...
I saw someone from UNITE recently sold a 1st place worlds trophy for like $25,000
crazy crazy money to be made
solid frigate
Koraidon and Miraidon winning Worlds in debut Generation be like:
jade dust
So Koraidon is guaranteed to win
lean ridge
Yea trophy + some TCG cards they hand out to winners was the main stuff he told me abt
foggy lodge
what does tcg's prize pool look like
higher than VGC
whole toop 32 gets money in TCG
patent marsh
So Koraidon is guaranteed to win
Oh both finalist is koraidon?
foggy lodge
tcg*
molten oasis
Koraidon is guaranteed a win wow
patent marsh
molten oasis
CSR Zama is not winning this tournament
knotty briar
No team til 1:30 am day 1?
What a legend
shadow wind
Who are the 2 restricted pairings?
jade dust
CSR Zama is not winning this tournament
That’s a reason to celebrate
Huge party at my house
Everyone is welcome
molten oasis
Is korai Lunala in finals?
knotty briar
Who are the 2 restricted pairings?
Koraidon is guaranteed
shadow wind
Yeah I get that
forest arrow
Is korai Lunala in finals?
We’re about to watch Gio vs Hirofumi
shadow wind
Koraidon + who is what I'm asking
jade dust
The other can be Lunala, ice rider
forest arrow
so not yet
jade dust
And shadow rider
patent marsh
Koraidon + who is what I'm asking
One is shadow rider
knotty briar
Hirofumi has CIR while Giovanni has Lunala
shadow wind
Ah ok
jade dust
I’m glad Koraidon is winning worlds
shadow wind
3 different partners is cool
jade dust
It was so underrated
molten oasis
What nationality won that last round? I’m not paying much attention
knotty briar
We'll see which one makes it to the finals
forest arrow
It deserves this win
lean ridge
US vs US
molten oasis
The American comeback
molten oasis
Gio’s just cracked
knotty briar
Hirofumi has a sore back from carrying Japan
solid frigate
X
jade dust
His shoulders hurt
Has this happened before? The same restricted guaranteed to win worlds?
dense latch
kyogre 2016 i think
knotty briar
Wolfey faced dual primals in 2016 right?
dense latch
does tpci not have any other interviews
knotty briar
Yeah primal Kyogre in 2016
jade dust
If Kiro wins next round, Incin is guaranteed to win worlds and be the first 4 times champion
solid frigate
Primal Groudon in 2019:
next stump
has MDB had the best 3 year Worlds stretch ever in modern VGC? Ray Rizzo too long ago
jade dust
People disrespected incineroar and it’s time it becomes the first mon to win 4 worlds
knotty briar
As a Calyrex-ice stan, I'm rooting for Hirofumi
jade dust
As a Calyrex-ice stan, I'm rooting for Hirofumi
Same
knotty briar
To win the round
jade dust
I want caly ice to win worlds
forest arrow
I think so, top 2, top 4 then top 8 3 years in a row
dense latch
is it crazy to say that mdb's run is more impressive than ray's considering how much the level of play has improved over the years
next stump
100% more impressive
jade dust
Rizzo washed
next stump
I’ve pulled it up before but let me find out the player count of Ray’s worlds wins
It’s kind of embarrassing
dense latch
mdb is the luka doncic of vgc
solid frigate
has MDB had the best 3 year Worlds stretch ever in modern VGC? Ray Rizzo too lon...
MDB is really consistent and i have massive respect over that
next stump
30 players in 2010
30 players in 2011
40 players in 2012
dense latch
that's a local
solid frigate
30 players in 2010
30 players in 2011
40 players in 2012
man
Sad
knotty briar
30 players in 2010
30 players in 2011
40 players in 2012
Total?
solid frigate
yeah OTS is only a thing in SV
forest arrow
Couldn’t you change your items around back in the day too?
next stump
5 or 6 swiss rounds and then cut straight to a Top 8
dense latch
are montana and stefan mott related or is it just coincidence
fringe dagger
place your bets RN!!
dense latch
Couldn’t you change your items around back in the day too?
i remember hearing about it for worlds 2009 but im not sure for the other ones
fringe dagger
giovanni or hirofumi?
dense latch
hirofumi wins top 4 and finals
forest arrow
GIO
dense latch
would be heartbreaking if hirofumi loses two worlds finals
solid frigate
GIO
fringe dagger
would be heartbreaking if hirofumi loses two worlds finals
but if james wins we get a 2x worlds champion
solid frigate
would be heartbreaking if hirofumi loses two worlds finals
CIR's fate ig
knotty briar
I just remembered Hirofumi is using Smeargle...
Let's go Gio!!!
fringe dagger
I just remembered Hirofumi is using Smeargle...
Let's go Gio!!!
lmaoo real
smeargle cannot win worlds by any means necessary
jade dust
Miraidon won first restricted worlds
dense latch
unparalleled game
solid frigate
unparalleled game
LMAO
knotty briar
It's not high horsepower caly anyway
fringe dagger
that lunala core made it to top 4???
forest arrow
Yeah Koala made it to top 4
forest arrow
Dude could be a model
Agreed
knotty briar
Chi-Yu Flutter makes me almost as nauseas as Smeargle... Almost
forest arrow
Goated pairing
fringe dagger
ursaluna in top 4 
knotty briar
Honestly, seeing trick room with Ursaluna this far in is really cool
knotty briar
We aren't rooting against Hirofumi, we're rooting against Smeargle
fringe dagger
true
forest arrow
damn yall really hate that thing lol
fringe dagger
giovanni has a good matchup into evan’s team if he makes it tho
jade dust
LETS GO HIRO
knotty briar
Heat wave and double smeargle
fringe dagger
bb elite 4 music 🔥🔥🔥🔥
solid frigate
paldea e4 music>bb e4
knotty briar
Flame charge smeargle and heat wave
foggy lodge
has MDB had the best 3 year Worlds stretch ever in modern VGC? Ray Rizzo too lon...
probably
fringe dagger
you cant ignore that koraidon tho
knotty briar
I was very wrong
foggy lodge
you can like him or not but derbeste is a goat
foggy lodge
I think his world champion will come sooner or later
foggy lodge
unparalleled game
LMFAOO YES
fringe dagger
protect?
foggy lodge
torviv didnt lose everything this day
dense latch
mdb could legit be the best oat in like five years time
foggy lodge
3 regional championships 3 top 8 or higher at worlds and day 2 conversion of something like 80%
in only 3 years
polar canyon
ROBBED
dense latch
he does have 0 filter tho lmao man is ruthless in his costreams
polar canyon
ROBBED SO HARD
dense latch
let's go hirofumi
fringe dagger
AAAAAA
next stump
holy shittttt hahaha
forest arrow
His debut year being a finalists was crazy
knotty briar
Thatvis so bad for Giovanni
next stump
that’s crazy
polar canyon
Shit
next stump
wrap it up let’s go next
knotty briar
Spore Koraidon and flare blitz Lunala is the best play for Hirofumi
dense latch
hirofumi kimura YOU ARE THE 2025 WORLD CHAMPION
foggy lodge
MF BETTER USE THAT LUCK TO WIN WORLDS
fringe dagger
were snoozing back to area zero wit this one
knotty briar
Follow me and fighting move bonnet is the play for Hirofumi
dense latch
you need a lot of luck and skill to win worlds and all im saying is hirofumi's got both
foggy lodge
WHAT
foggy lodge
you need a lot of luck and skill to win worlds and all im saying is hirofumi's ...
fr
hirofumi is having the world champion luck
knotty briar
Rage powder heat wave is really the only play I can see for Gio
polar canyon
Heat wave was so close
knotty briar
Swap Chi-Yu to Koraidon and tera water sucker punch Koraidon is probably the play
fringe dagger
Swap Chi-Yu to Koraidon and tera water sucker punch Koraidon is probably the pla...
yeah
knotty briar
Hmm now this is interesting
next stump
DO IT SUCKER THE INCIN
polar canyon
Clutching to that tera to dear life when is it coming out
knotty briar
He saccs the feesh
next stump
has he taken any sleep turns
foggy lodge
one I think
knotty briar
Yeah that's probably the best play
foggy lodge
I think tera water Bonnet may clutch it
polar canyon
Yesss
fringe dagger
ASAAAAA
solid frigate
GIO
knotty briar
The wake up!!!
foggy lodge
if CIR sleeps enough turns
polar canyon
Against all odds baby
foggy lodge
GIO LETS GOOOOO
knotty briar
That was insane!
solid frigate
if CIR sleeps enough turns
we gonna deal with Sleep turns atp
next stump
USA 🇺🇸
foggy lodge
IT KILLS WITHOUT TERA
polar canyon
Non-smeargle
next stump
I think Hirofumi overthought the mid game
knotty briar
Definitely
next stump
he had a board state where he could fake out bonnet and KO chi-yu
and protected instead
exotic river
im trying to add to my trick room team, can somone tell me why people prefer dusclops over dusknoir
knotty briar
Can't be making that kind of mistake this far in
knotty briar
im trying to add to my trick room team, can somone tell me why people prefer dus...
Eviolite
foggy lodge
he had a board state where he could fake out bonnet and KO chi-yu
its cloak bonnet
next stump
sitrus
polar canyon
Hirofumi please don't adapt
foggy lodge
OH ITS SITRUS
next stump
he ate it after the ruination
knotty briar
is there any case where dusknoir would be better then dusclops
Not really
foggy lodge
damn my bad I remember he was using cloak at the VRs
polar canyon
Hope it drops speed
knotty briar
Now he's once again free to heat wave flame charge smeargle
polar canyon
Did that miss
knotty briar
That miss is massive
polar canyon
Oh my god
nocturne holly
Who’s on
polar canyon
Speed boost smeargle that dodged 90 acc
nocturne holly
Wait what’s the score between hirofumi and gio
foggy lodge
ANOTHER SPEED BOOST
polar canyon
Smeargle public execution when
foggy lodge
WHAT
polar canyon
I wanna say tera bonnet powder
knotty briar
Tera rage powder heat wave is the only potential out I can see...
polar canyon
Speed drop?
fringe dagger
the smeargle still outspeeds
fringe dagger
i think
knotty briar
Scarf Chi-Yu is faster now!
next stump
139 + 69 right
fringe dagger
i think smeargle might be faster
polar canyon
Now it is
knotty briar
Scarf is gone!
Smeargle is faster again!
fringe dagger
smeargle could spore chi yu
polar canyon
Yess
fringe dagger
oh
bold geode
THE SPEED BOOST
THE SCRIPT IS FIGHTING SMEARGLE
PISS TEST THAT MFER
Zam CSR lost Worlds though
Sadge
polar canyon
Gio outplayed the speed smeargle so good tho
next stump
WHY IS HE NOT CLICKING FAKE OUT EVER
polar canyon
Is tr up? Bonnet faster than calyrex?
bold geode
Was he tryna read Lunala?
knotty briar
Bonnet is faster
knotty briar
Was he tryna read Lunala?
Probably
polar canyon
Honestly would've got me I would have switched lunala there like a fool
knotty briar
Chi-Yu is -1 sp attack so a switch wouldn't have been out of the question
nocturne holly
is Gio winning??
polar canyon
I think so?
nocturne holly
What’s the set score
polar canyon
1-0 to gio
Is trick room not bad for him
Bonnet gets korai now
Defense sun boost too
knotty briar
Spore Calyrex and wide guard is the play
polar canyon
And it hits
next stump
Calyrex might actually win this
fringe dagger
i still think gio has this
knotty briar
Spore Calyrex and moongeist beam Koraidon is the play
bold geode
Calyrex might actually win this
There's no shot right
fringe dagger
ggs
polar canyon
Right?
lean ridge
If he gets a second leech seed off on the bonnet he might outheal the moongeist damage
solid frigate
GIO
lean ridge
Actually idk
next stump
Calyrex is a broken pokemon
it might do it
like 1 turn sleep and maybe a double protect
fringe dagger
no shot hiro wins honestly
next stump
oh fuck nvm LOL
lean ridge
Oof
knotty briar
That's +1 moongeist beam
bold geode
LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
next stump
I think he could out heal if he got the 2nd one and a little protect luck
fringe dagger
smeargle LOST WORLDS LETS FUCKING GOOO RAAAAAAAGH
polar canyon
No smeargle in finals baby
knotty briar
Seed bomb moongeist beam
short quiver
chat could i make a sandstorm team with zamazenta and insert second restricted here maybe groudon
polar canyon
2 korai in finals? Korai is champion?
bold geode
YEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSS
solid frigate
KOALA
polar canyon
I forgot what happened in the last one
foggy lodge
KORAIDON LUNALA IS IN FINALS WTF
knotty briar
Beautiful crit!!!
solid frigate
KOALA
forest arrow
Koala vs Korai CSR tomorrow
lean ridge
🇺🇸 🦅
bold geode
AMERICA BITCH
forest arrow
Fucking beautiful
bold geode
https://tenor.com/view/america-hurricane-happy4th-of-july-america-flag-independence-day-gif-21259025
fringe dagger
SMEARGLE LOST RAAAAAAAAAAGH
polar canyon
Koraidon is world champion🔥🔥
short quiver
chat could i make a sandstorm team with zamazenta and *insert second restricted ...
🥺
knotty briar
SMEARGLE LOST RAAAAAAAAAAGH
YEEEEEEEAAAAAHHH!!!!!
solid frigate
THEY BROKE THE CURSE OF ODD NUMBER
forest arrow
GIO WINS WORLDS
short quiver
How r u setting up the sand
ttar probably?
id have to view all mons that get sandstream
solid frigate
# GIO WINS WORLDS
JAMES AND GIO BROKE THE CURSE OF ODD NUMBER JP W
lean ridge
Well probably avoid groudon then cuz it will just get rid of ur sand
fringe dagger
james is gonna win and become 2x worlds champion TRUST
short quiver
Well probably avoid groudon then cuz it will just get rid of ur sand
so who do i use as my second restricted mon
i wanna use zama for one of them
bold geode
Texas server is going fucking crazy
lean ridge
Up to u, sand teams aren’t great in double restricted, just don’t use something that sets up weather like korai/kyogre/groudon cuz it will just counteract your strategy
foggy lodge
BRUTE BONNET IS A WORLD CHAMPION
CHI YU IS A WORLD CHAMPION
wait no nvm Evans has Incin
is Incin vs Chi Yu finals damn
polar canyon
The last game was crazy
bold geode
I'm sorry chat
Incineroar is not winning the 2025 World Championships
next stump
what news do you think we get tomorrow about the video games
solid frigate
Koraidon+Gen 7 Psychic/Ghost Restricted vs Koraidon+ Gen 8 Psychic/Ghost Restricteds)
next stump
do we get a champions date
foggy lodge
prolly champions trailer
polar canyon
I have not been looking at nationalities I just know stream is in english and stream is not in english
I'm just happy we get cool teams at finals
2 cool teams
solid frigate
yeah the biggest winner in this worlds is Ho-Oh(Single Pokemon) and Koraidon(Performance)
short quiver
Up to u, sand teams aren’t great in double restricted, just don’t use something ...
dialga? (origine if necessary)😃
solid frigate
omg twitter is trending koraidon
lean ridge
dialga? (origine if necessary)😃
If you are playing to have fun then yea why not, but if ur playing to try and push the ranks I would not recommend using dialga
short quiver
If you are playing to have fun then yea why not, but if ur playing to try and pu...
who should i use i want someone unhindered by the sand
and that kinda synergizes with shield doggo
google is not helpful
lean ridge
Unfortunately there isn’t really a good option for unhindered by sand and Zama partner
You could just run a good second restricted and just play with your sand and keep ur second restricted in the back to start the games
short quiver
🤔
lean ridge
What a lot of ppl do with caly shadow for example is chipping away at the opponent until they are weak enough for caly to come in and start sweeping
polar canyon
Almost said groudon
lean ridge
So you could maybe chip with your sand and then bring in caly in the late game
short quiver
So you could maybe chip with your sand and then bring in caly in the late game
hmmmmm
would using both doggos together be a death wish waiting to happen
short quiver
how far zacian has fallen 😔
all she wanted to do was fight with her brother
lean ridge
Surprised whims is so high I don’t remember seeing too much of it on stream
short quiver
The offensive type coverage is very bad
hm??
lean ridge
Zama runs body press and a steel move usually, zacian usually runs a fairy, steel and maybe a fighting offensive move so the stuff you can hit for super effective is more limited than other duos
short quiver
what if i use crunch instead of a fighting move
zama has body press i can accommodate zacian to deal with, say, calyrex
solid frigate
never thought in my life seeing Bonnet having Guaranteed
solid frigate
zama has body press i can accommodate zacian to deal with, say, calyrex
Bblade just nukes Calyrexes
knotty briar
Guaranteed Bonnet is crazy
short quiver
Bblade just nukes Calyrexes
huh??
knotty briar
Kinda hilarious though
solid frigate
huh??
+1 196 Atk Zacian-Crowned Behemoth Blade vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Shadow: 165-195 (93.7 - 110.7%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
short quiver
+1 196 Atk Zacian-Crowned Behemoth Blade vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Shadow: 165-19...
😃
so whats stopping me from using both doggos
solid frigate
Guaranteed Bonnet is crazy
remember when we just think Bonnet is mid
knotty briar
so whats stopping me from using both doggos
Chi-Yu in sun
short quiver
Chi-Yu in sun
whats stopping me from shutting off sun with like pelliper or smthn
knotty briar
Raging bolt and miraidon
short quiver
or since both my restricted are steel types i could technically go sandstorm there
fringe dagger
this is Reg G all along here
zacian rlly fell off lmaoo
knotty briar
remember when we just think Bonnet is mid
It's popping off now
short quiver
zacian rlly fell off lmaoo
free my boi girl she did nothing wrong
jade dust
Sad to see Hiro out but Im happy for Gio
Hiro's mistake was to set trick room in game 2
jade dust
He didnt need trick room to win and would had been better to get damage with koraidon
solid frigate
Hiro's mistake was to set trick room in game 2
they broke the curse at least
violet smelt
What are the teams of the two finalists?
knotty briar
Let's take a moment to thank Hirofumi for setting trick room when he did
knotty briar
What are the teams of the two finalists?
Koraidon CSR vs Koraidon Lunala
jade dust
they broke the curse at least
Which curse?
solid frigate
Which curse?
odd number Japanese W
violet smelt
Koraidon CSR vs Koraidon Lunala
Any Incineroar or Amoonguss?
solid frigate
Incin yes
jade dust
odd number Japanese W
Ah
solid frigate
Amongus,kinda?
jade dust
Brutte bonnet lol
violet smelt
Both have incineroar? Amonguss will win by calling his past form
jade dust
Gio's brute bonnet has put on a lot of work
violet smelt
knotty briar
These are the finalist teams
knotty briar
Koraidon and Bonnet on both
violet smelt
On one side i am a chi-yu heavy enjoyer but on the other incineroar must be the king
knotty briar
Going for James Evans
short quiver
Koraidon and Bonnet on both
and a ghost psychic restricted on both sides. coincidence? i think not!
fringe dagger
These are the finalist teams
when looking at it, gio has a really good matchup into evans’s team
short quiver
how can i calculate what the highest attack stat a zacian can have at level 70
i also need to find the same info for zamas def
next stump
fringe dagger
how can i calculate what the highest attack stat a zacian can have at level 70
you can check showdowns damage calculator
https://calc.pokemonshowdown.com/
knotty briar
These are the finalist teams
Left is Giovanni Cischke
Right is James Evans
fringe dagger
its 308
knotty briar
So James is technically a world champion
He won the seniors division in 2018
knotty briar
Nope
jade dust
I want Gio to win but Im fine if James takes it
knotty briar
In fact he hasn't won an international or a regional
jade dust
Ah damn
knotty briar
This would be his first tournament victory if he wins
solid frigate
it would be funny
short quiver
you can check showdowns damage calculator
https://calc.pokemonshowdown.com/
when you catch in swsh will it show the crowned stats or the base forms stats
short quiver
kk
knotty briar
If James Evans wins, he would have a Seniors and Masters division world championship under his belt
If Giovanni wins, the World championship would be his first tournament victory
Both would be incredibly hype victories
graceful scaffold
bald
nocturne holly
let’s get incin another wc
polar canyon
How many hours to the finals? Getting too confused with time zones and days when it's close to midnight
short quiver
is it possible to catch zacian in sword with a maxed out attack ev and iv or am i gonna have to look for s different number
i want her attack stat to be perfect
next stump
How many hours to the finals? Getting too confused with time zones and days when...
probably about 24 hours from now
dull ibex
is worlds still going on?
dense latch
not until tomorrow
dull ibex
ah ok
polar canyon
is worlds still going on?
Technically I guess it is
short quiver
Congrats again on your finish man.
wait what
if i really do set on the doggo twins what mons could i add to the team 
short quiver
yeah i was asking what that means
lofty tartan
He knows what it means. That's all that matters 
short quiver
He knows what it means. That's all that matters <:milk_shrug:125813305514760617...
get this man a true
short quiver
if i really do set on the doggo twins what mons could i add to the team <:Psydu...
can i use whimsicott ogerpon water and chienpao 😃
dense latch
no teambuilding decision will make zacian + zama any less bad
next stump
Congrats again on your finish man.
thank you ♥️ really does mean a lot
gentle cragBOT
thank you ♥️ really does mean a lot
mlbd has given 1 Gen Rep to dazedmika
short quiver
no teambuilding decision will make zacian + zama any less bad
not gonna stop me from trying
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.2
next stump
X
this kid has the maximum amount of championship points possible already
worlds win means he has absolutely perfected a season
gentle cragBOT
Result: 90.000000
next stump
all 3 IC wins, 2 regional wins, locals maxed, etc.
dense latch
he's insane wtf
dense latch
tcg is fucked once he ages up
foggy lodge
Fr
dense latch
https://x.com/SoulSurVGC/status/1956893407684751807 also this is perfect
X
foggy lodge
We aren't that far from a guy like that with Kevin Han tho
foggy lodge
https://x.com/SoulSurVGC/status/1956893407684751807 also this is perfect
LMFAOOOO
dense latch
We aren't that far from a guy like that with Kevin Han tho
he's in senior finals too right
dense latch
might be the first player to win worlds in all divisions
solid frigate
https://x.com/SoulSurVGC/status/1956893407684751807 also this is perfect
LMAO
short quiver
no teambuilding decision will make zacian + zama any less bad
but like do you think the team will function
short quiver
whimsicott for whimsicott stuff chienpao to make them both hurt more
foggy lodge
4 fire weaknesses just in the main core🥀
short quiver
4 fire weaknesses just in the main core🥀
urshifu water to punish anything that tries
foggy lodge
When Koraidon just came out as the world champion🥀
short quiver
When Koraidon just came out as the world champion🥀
its dangerous out there take this with you holds out zacian play rough
fringe dagger
i forgot honestly i was too hyperfixated on smeargle 
dense latch
urshifu water to punish anything that tries
good luck vs any koraidon
foggy lodge
its dangerous out there take this with you *holds out zacian play rough*
I sure hope the tera fire pokemon doesn't tera fire in front of the fairy pokemon
short quiver
good luck vs any koraidon
again, zacian play rough
dense latch
they can just tera fire
molten oasis
its dangerous out there take this with you *holds out zacian play rough*
Tera fire
dense latch
they can just tera fire
molten oasis
All of zacian good mu’s are fucked by Tera fire
short quiver
which i can predict and hit it with something else instead
foggy lodge
Oh if only it was as easy as to predict it to tera lol
fringe dagger
its dangerous out there take this with you *holds out zacian play rough*
252+ SpA Choice Specs Neutralizing Gas Weezing-Galar Fairy Wind vs. 28 HP / 28 SpD Koraidon: 168-196 (93.8 - 109.4%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO
just sayin
foggy lodge
You need a consistent check to it
foggy lodge
252+ SpA Choice Specs Neutralizing Gas Weezing-Galar Fairy Wind vs. 28 HP / 28 S...
Was this the meta call for worlds
fringe dagger
ppl just slept on weezing trust
dense latch
STOP AUTO CORRECTING TO DIRE
you can't escape the dire claws
foggy lodge
Worlds players are so bad bro like how is Koraidon gonna win worlds just hit it with dazzling gleam
fringe dagger
deadass
short quiver
Oh if only it was as easy as to predict it to tera lol
add smthn that learns a ground move
fringe dagger
like carbink counters koraidon in AND out of tera
molten oasis
Oh if only it was as easy as to predict it to tera lol
Sure but
fringe dagger
where was that in the bracket
foggy lodge
Landorus is okay
molten oasis
Then you have to predict with Tera ground Tera blast or play a weather war which both suck
dense latch
also it's not like it's 2v1 vs koraidon
short quiver
Then you have to predict with Tera ground Tera blast or play a weather war which...
im considering adding ttar for weather control since both my restricteds would be steel types
dense latch
what about the chi yu about to blast your two restricteds back to galar
fringe dagger
like carbink counters koraidon in AND out of tera
196+ Atk Life Orb Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Flare Blitz vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Carbink in Sun: 68-81 (54.4 - 64.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
carbink is slept on!! i say as they drag me away
short quiver
what about the chi yu about to blast your two restricteds back to galar
tera water zacian tera fighting zama i think is how id wanna play that
foggy lodge
I can't wait for all the casual players to go through the dunning kruger effect and start saying that Koraidon is bad because it dies to a fairy attack after it won worlds
dense latch
if only there was a restricted that could override sun and weaken fire type moves for steel types
foggy lodge
Sadly it doesn't exist
dense latch
I can't wait for all the casual players to go through the dunning kruger effect ...
"how is (insert like a dozen options) good bro it has a 4x weakness"
fringe dagger
how is CSR good? it has 2 4x weaknesses
foggy lodge
"Lunala AND Koraidon? Bro this top players are so bad how is this gonna win"
Actually that's so funny Cishke has 3 X4 weakness on his restricteds LMAO
short quiver
"Lunala AND Koraidon? Bro this top players are so bad how is this gonna win"
an ounce of skill is all it takes sometimes 🥀
molten oasis
also it's not like it's 2v1 vs koraidon
Eeeehhhhh
It really depends on your team, you can lose both your mons t1 to korai really easily
Especially with CSR being a common pattern
solid frigate
Actually that's so funny Cishke has 3 X4 weakness on his restricteds LMAO
Fairy,Ghost,Dark,Bug?
foggy lodge
Actually that's so funny Cishke has 3 X4 weakness on his restricteds LMAO
Add another X4 weakness to bug with Bonnet
dense latch
i mean in the way that like sure you can read the tera on koraidon and KO it but there's still the rest of the korai team to deal with which is arguably harder
fringe dagger
Add another X4 weakness to bug with Bonnet
my level 100 skeledirge would probably sweep through his team
short quiver
i wanna use both doggos waterpon and a mon with prankster that doesnt evaporate if fire even gets near it, chienpao, and incineroar is lookin real good for the last slot
foggy lodge
Worlds players so bad they only have level 50 mons
dense latch
"world champ" can't figure out how to use rare candies smh my head
short quiver
i wanna use both doggos waterpon and a mon with prankster that doesnt evaporate ...
but i also want weather control with pelipper or ttar
foggy lodge
Pelipper was used before
short quiver
pelipper might be better
foggy lodge
But now its just really
molten oasis
Pelipper is just, eh
dense latch
when it's easier to slot in kyogre
foggy lodge
Like really bad
molten oasis
Are you cooking double dogs?
dense latch
why use pelipper and its 430 bst or whatever that is
short quiver
Are you cooking double dogs?
yes
molten oasis
Why on earth would you do that
short quiver
why use pelipper and its 430 bst or whatever that is
focus sash casually forgetting to exist
dense latch
like that pao you were thinking of using
short quiver
Why on earth would you do that
because i want to use pokemon i actually like 😒 “meta this, meta that have you ever met a girl before”
foggy lodge
You can say every mon is good when sash exists
dense latch
you can build a zacian team and a zamazenta team, they'll be more enjoyable and easier to use
short quiver
like that pao you were thinking of using
so how do i take weather control from koraidon 😕
fringe dagger
use kyogre idk
molten oasis
Play fucking zacian and kyogre
short quiver
😒
molten oasis
Or zama and kyogre, both dogs are not fun together
I KNOW FROM EXPERIENCE
I ONLY play Zacian
dense latch
sword and shieldfish aren't even meta lmao there's no "shame" in using them
foggy lodge
They are really underplayed
short quiver
sword and shieldfish aren't even meta lmao there's no "shame" in using them
tell that to all the zamas at worlds
foggy lodge
Only one Zacogre and Zamaogre made day 2 at worlds
fringe dagger
Play fucking zacian and kyogre
236+ SpA Mystic Water Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 28 HP / 28 SpD Tera Fire Koraidon in Rain: 542-638 (302.7 - 356.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
koraidon users hate this one simple trick
dense latch
tell that to all the zamas at worlds
so is csr cosmog meta because csr is used a lot
foggy lodge
tell that to all the zamas at worlds
Then Zama is also meta therefore Zac Zama is also "shame"🥀
short quiver
according to you guys doggo twins is very NOT meta
molten oasis
236+ SpA Mystic Water Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 28 HP / 28 SpD Tera Fire K...
1
You tend to pivot around kyogre
foggy lodge
As meta as Csr cosmog yeah
short quiver
As meta as Csr cosmog yeah
cosmog is goated 🥀
molten oasis
2, koraidon will disable spout from being strong because its faster than you
short quiver
cosmog is goated 🥀
it evolves into the fucking sun/moon
lean ridge
short quiver
greatest moveset of all time ong
fluid fiber
I'd like to point out how the right image is the team I've been running all month lol
I have 4/6 of the same mons lol
foggy lodge
Isn't it only 3/6
short quiver
I have 4/6 of the same mons lol
technically the ursaluna forms would be different, no?
short quiver
i dont see an incineroar
fluid fiber
Yes 3/6 LMAO
My brain auto inserted Incin
Still pretty good
Brute Bonnet makes a lot of sense on a sun team though
molten oasis
Lmao
pulsar cloak
https://x.com/cereevgc/status/1956801545342763277
🥀
lofty umbra
Was wolfe eliminated? I saw him win yesterday but he was not in the stream today
bold geode
Yes
foggy lodge
Lost in round 9
lofty umbra
Is that somewhere in the stream?
lofty umbra
How did you guys find out about that?
strange juniper
https://t.co/TmE9mjERUa pairings are here
bold geode
Also was announced on stream
lofty umbra
Oh, thanks
bold geode
X
foggy lodge
Actually @bold geode Pokealex also said on stream that he could win worlds if he switched teams lmao
Guess he just didn't need to
bold geode
Actually <@817628066020065280> Pokealex also said on stream that he could win wo...
But he's him tho
🤷♂️
foggy lodge
I didn't expect someone to just comfort diff and make it to finals
solid frigate
https://x.com/VGCVictoryRoab/status/1956890322413490412?t=dd8UVVFzrcftpU4TaH2R1g...
LMAO
bold geode
Real
bold geode
No lie
I had a feeling going into Worlds like hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm maybe
Maybe it'll do good
solid frigate
i did not slept on Korai Lunala
foggy lodge
Wolfey obsessive fans gonna crumble when they discover that someone with the same duo did way better than him
solid frigate
LMAO
bold geode
Right
bold geode
I'm sorry like
I respect the fact that he's a good player but like
Low-key the one thing keeping me from being a big fan is like
Just all the obsessive people
foggy lodge
I'm sorry like
I respect the fact that he's a good player but like
Low-key the o...
I'm a wolfey fan
But I find his community to be annoying
bold geode
Like I get a lot of em are probably kids or he's probably their only VGC exposure but like damn
foggy lodge
Like its completely fine to only watch tournaments because of him, not everyone is really into VGC by mons or other players
bold geode
He's like an actual fuckin celebrity in that way where like
People just fangirl so much
foggy lodge
But I find to even be a bit obsessive
foggy lodge
And some people just seems to have like even a parasocial relationship with him like
You know this people who just pray kpop idols like they know them irl
Some people act similar to that with wolfey
bold geode
Yeah like I respect and like the guy but like
Nah some people do too much
bold geode
You know this people who just pray kpop idols like they know them irl
My mom fucks with them everyday
solid frigate
the stream chat man
90% are all wolfe based
foggy lodge
He's like an actual fuckin celebrity in that way where like
People just fangirl ...
Even if you agrouped every single vgc "fan" of other top players like Marco, MDB, Joseph Ugarte
It wouldn't be enough to be the same number as Wolfey's community
bold geode
I mean yeah
He's the big name
solid frigate
Even if you agrouped every single vgc "fan" of other top players like Marco, MDB...
or even Cybertron
bold geode
He's like the face VGC puts on the billboard
foggy lodge
And Sejuj is not even because of being Sejun is just because of Pachirisu
bold geode
Like I have nothing against Wolfe at all and I respect him but like yeah
I just don't like people who be doing that much or I don't vibe with them
foggy lodge
Unlike Wolfey that is like "haha Incin" but he is still known for you know being him
solid frigate
cybertron is pretty big tho too
Cybertron at least is more informative
bold geode
I just leave them to their own devices
I don't wanna be near that or dealing with that
solid frigate
And Sejuj is not even because of being Sejun is just because of Pachirisu
and like
If Pachirisu does not have Follow me Sejun would just use Raichu
foggy lodge
The thing Erik send earlier today was so funny but also terrible lol
Genuinely had me in disbelief how someone can do such a mental stretch
bold geode
What
dense latch
oh the thing where they asked tpci to replay the set wolfey lost?
foggy lodge
Yes
solid frigate
oh the thing where they asked tpci to replay the set wolfey lost?
THEY KNEW LMAO
bold geode
They're only there to see Wolfe
dense latch
this lmao
foggy lodge
X
bold geode
Then again it gets them views so like
If it ain't broke
dense latch
also jesus i need a job
bold geode
https://x.com/glitchy_potat/status/1956765241649279283?s=46
Nah that's wild
Also brother no he was not
solid frigate
https://x.com/glitchy_potat/status/1956765241649279283?s=46
mf bro just throw the turn 1 in swiss round 8 how did you-
foggy lodge
"piloting the team to perfection"
-gets day 1d the first time in all the gen with that team lol
atomic mural
https://x.com/glitchy_potat/status/1956765241649279283?s=46
"wolfey losing is a fluke"
bold geode
That's very disrespectful to Chih Hung honestly, but like
People like that don't care, cuz they didn't see Wolfe
dense latch
i just hope it's ragebait and move on
foggy lodge
also jesus i need a job
I can't see mine how much do I have
dense latch
I can't see mine how much do I have
22,236
solid frigate
I can't see mine how much do I have
22K
solid frigate
i got 60K mostly because i was active since 2021
foggy lodge
Am I regular comp chat @bold geode ???
dense latch
i sent some in 2021
bold geode
Am I regular comp chat <@817628066020065280> ???
Yes you are you unemployed fuck
bold geode
dense latch
chat i was on politoed kingdra since 2021 im goated
bold geode
Ain't lasting that much NEXT YEAR I'LL GET A WORK
Your English is fucking horrible
"I'll get a work"
foggy lodge
I'll try to work at a cafeteria
dense latch
foggy lodge
Your English is fucking horrible
I ain't a native english speaker
bold geode
Get fucked
foggy lodge
American mfs when they correct a guy that speaks more than one language
bold geode
Real
dense latch
it took me a while to figure out when to use "this" and when to use "these"
english is hard dude
pulsar cloak
"wolfey losing is a fluke"
🥀
foggy lodge
Y'all mfs wouldn't survive learning spanish
dense latch
all that for native speakers to use the wrong your or there
pulsar cloak
Actually diabolical that he ran back Koala after getting knocked out of day 2 of NAIC in the mirror by Gio
solid frigate
American mfs when they correct a guy that speaks more than one language
lmao
dense latch
gio clears wolfey
solid frigate
OH YEAH HE LOST TO GIO AT NAIC
i think we know who is the better Koala player
fringe dagger
https://tenor.com/view/coryxkenshin-job-job-application-scary-gif-46029036876859...
https://tenor.com/view/akira-job-application-get-a-job-akira-job-application-gif-8274337411388777231
dense latch
i hope they paid the translator well
foggy lodge
I tried KoraiNala and it just was not it for me
Not my style but the team seems crazy good
pulsar cloak
It's such a day 1 team but Gio's been on the same six since literally Milwaukee
bold geode
https://tenor.com/view/coryxkenshin-job-job-application-scary-gif-46029036876859...
NAH
pulsar cloak
100% top cut rate with the team
bold geode
@molten oasis wanna play Rivals
foggy lodge
Gio only changed like 2 things of the team since Milwaukee
It was cloak Bonnet and tera fairy Ursa
Now its sitrus and tera ghost
Also sitrus in reg I
I thought berries were completely dead
bold geode
Now bro is gonna disappear wow
pulsar cloak
I've ran 5 out of the 6 James is using at a point in time
next stump
Gio had such a crazy season
dense latch
koala cores
dense latch
I thought berries were completely dead
yea same
justin tang was running sitrus cir too
foggy lodge
Oh I thought it was icicle plate
Sitrus is a tank
Leech seed + sitrus+ imprison nah
Watch your cir get imprisoned and get outhealed slowly
solid frigate
thats a evil set damn
dense latch
Watch your cir get imprisoned and get outhealed slowly
im glad i dont play reg i anymore
i can be ass at reg h instead :)))
pulsar cloak
6-0 to 6-3 is soulcrushing
foggy lodge
Exeguttor!!!
molten oasis
<@465881273454559252> wanna play Rivals
fluid fiber
Not me just finding out there was a shiny Ghimmighoul event
molten oasis
(Can’t I’m dying at work
foggy lodge
6-0 to 6-3 is soulcrushing
Fr
foggy lodge
Groudon was so clooooose
pulsar cloak
But Justin's had an amazing season and to top it off with his first Worlds day 2 is nothing to scoff at
Groudon made top 4 in seniors
With the same team also in top 8
Lost to an earlier version of it in a limitless tour
foggy lodge
I saw Junxi Zhu running it
dense latch
at least kevin han might redeem cir mirai's shitty performance in masters
pulsar cloak
Kevin Han is hungry for the title defense
solid frigate
https://x.com/PlantGodW/status/1956853905222213862
MDB my boi
pulsar cloak
Technically it's a title defense? He moved up a division
dense latch
cir mirai could win both seniors and juniors
foggy lodge
Yeah technically
solid frigate
wait is Gio's Lunala Tera Fairy
foggy lodge
And he is 12-0 💀💀💀
pulsar cloak
wait is Gio's Lunala Tera Fairy
Water
foggy lodge
Bro hasn't lost a single match the whole tournament
pulsar cloak
It's both Han's first years in their respective divisions and they're both on a tear
dense latch
alolan raichu top 16d seniors worlds
foggy lodge
Ain't no way lmao
next stump
how many seniors were at worlds
foggy lodge
126
next stump
holy shit that’s a lot
foggy lodge
Yeah
next stump
like 1/3rd of masters
dense latch
111 juniors too
foggy lodge
Seniors has an actual very high level
foggy lodge
A lot of seniors top player could keep up with masters top players
pulsar cloak
I think they all (or most) get free trips to Worlds
Because their parents pay for it /j
foggy lodge
Lol
But that's super cool in the end they are still kids so its fair that they get free trips
dense latch
conner p isa really good senior i see him all the time in mdb's streams pretty he top 4d naic and just top 4d worlds