#competitive_discussion

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nocturne holly
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He has eleki??

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Which csr is faster, do we know

foggy lodge
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baek's

polar canyon
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clicking spore on rilla is risky

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does grassy glide risk a ko here?

nocturne holly
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I think so??

polar canyon
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I'm just expecting rilla to switch so it can get that fake out back

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refresh terrain

nocturne holly
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Yea

polar canyon
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depends on the final slot james picked

foggy lodge
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wait did the Ho Oh lose

polar canyon
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yes

nocturne holly
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Does thunder clap still ko at this range

foggy lodge
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rk9 shows it as he won

nocturne holly
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baekkkk

polar canyon
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it does?

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I missed the end

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what happened now

jade dust
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If Mewtwo wasn’t a restricted would it get any use at all?

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Probably not

polar canyon
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good question

stone trellis
jade dust
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But it’s fast so not suited for trick room

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She mono psychic

stone trellis
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So just pair it up with male Indeedee.

pulsar bay
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does anyone Play 6v6 singles? i'm lowkey tryna get better at team building and just get better in general

polar canyon
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most people here play vgc

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all watching world championship

stone trellis
pulsar bay
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oh

polar canyon
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sadly? I'm glad I don't play singles

stone trellis
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I'd love to help you, but I can't.

pulsar bay
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damn

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doubles is so much more popular that singles

polar canyon
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it's more fun and featured in world championships

solid frigate
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kinda opposite

pulsar bay
solid frigate
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Singles is more popular but doubles is the official format

pulsar bay
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they need a singles discussion server...

polar canyon
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doubles is more officially pushed forward

nocturne holly
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Has regieleki done anything this set

solid frigate
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thunderbolt

lean ridge
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Jumped around

polar canyon
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good thunderbolt chip that brought caly to ko range

pulsar bay
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wait where do i ask for advice then?

polar canyon
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maybe smogon servers

pulsar bay
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I gotta make an account

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I just use it for set samples

polar canyon
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the commentators are popping off so hard

lean ridge
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He’s back in

polar canyon
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he's baek in

foggy lodge
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its a 50 50

polar canyon
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what is that menu tech

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choose protect back choose protect back choose protect back

foggy lodge
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tclap spore

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tclap eleki spore korai

stone trellis
polar canyon
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yeah why not double protect here

nocturne holly
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Is baek done

polar canyon
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I mean basically

lean ridge
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It’s looking grim

polar canyon
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not impossible

foggy lodge
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torviv won

stone trellis
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GG, James.

foggy lodge
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collision crit doesnt kill raging

stone trellis
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You were strong.

foggy lodge
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no sun anymore

dense latch
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no b2b top 8s for eleki 🙁

nocturne holly
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I like James

polar canyon
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ooouch

foggy lodge
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its over

polar canyon
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still didnt think it would ohko

lean ridge
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Gg

stone trellis
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GG.

foggy lodge
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TORVIV TOP 8

solid frigate
dense latch
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nah spatk boosting dragon pulse is always a KO

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eleki should’ve targeted victor’s switch and get a dc

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big misplay from james

foggy lodge
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should have cut the electricity of the whole place

stone trellis
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So who's next?

polar canyon
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me

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wish me luck

stone trellis
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Good luck.

whole ibex
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Good luck

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Is there anyone with left that has Volcorna in their team?

polar canyon
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I think the one volc is out

stone trellis
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Is Theotime still in?

foggy lodge
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THERE WAS A DC ON THE SIDE STREAM

stone trellis
solid frigate
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Huh?

dense latch
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so far montana mott and victor medina are in top 8

stone trellis
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Who's in top 16?

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Nevermind, I'm dumb.

polar canyon
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if he wins we are getting the esmirgle distribution next year

stone trellis
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If Hirofumi were to win, what would we get? His Smeargle?

polar canyon
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they're showing pachirisu again

stone trellis
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Jingling keys at its finest.

foggy lodge
stone trellis
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Oh.

foggy lodge
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between aaron brok and hirofumi

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I want Hirofumi to win

stone trellis
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Same here.

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I love Koraidon and I love CIR.

nocturne holly
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What happened

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Was the dc because of the player?

foggy lodge
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nah an error

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this game is known for having dcs lol

stone trellis
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Sadly, yep.

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Please let Hirofumi win, I need this.

pulsar bay
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wait can golem learn sucker punch?

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i have a jolly max speed attack golem with rock polish sturdy

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the golem gets bodied by priority

stone trellis
pulsar bay
dense latch
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you lost me at golem

stone trellis
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I don't know, I don't play singles.

pulsar bay
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from my experience it has outsped common mons

polar canyon
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looks like you just joined the smogon server

pulsar bay
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yes

polar canyon
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maybe people can give feedback on your singles teams there

pulsar bay
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I have to wait ten minutes

stone trellis
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Ko Tsukide is up against Nick?

polar canyon
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well I'm sure you can be patient for a little bit

pulsar bay
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ok

jade dust
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Did Wolfey play in stream?

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I know he’s out but

stone trellis
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He did yesterday.

jade dust
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I know

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I’m talking of today

stone trellis
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Oh boy, time for the agenda to be maintained.

polar canyon
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let's go nick

jade dust
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He’s gonna release the Worlds video in like 6 months from now

stone trellis
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American pre-nerf Santa Claus VS the Japanese assassin.

jade dust
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He hasn’t released the international video yet

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And it’s been months

stone trellis
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How many months did it take for the Toronto video to come out?

jade dust
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I have no fucking idea

dense latch
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6 or 7 months

polar canyon
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love seeing representation of icy wind/webs speed control

jade dust
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I don’t like to see these Kyogers with only water moves

foggy lodge
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+6 SPEED SMEARGLE LMFAO

jade dust
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Where?

stone trellis
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Who?

foggy lodge
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on the sidestream

jade dust
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I’m seeing Nick vs Ko

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What side stream?

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Link?

polar canyon
dull ibex
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oh based

polar canyon
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what a tough lead for nick

stone trellis
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Let's go.

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That's bad, isn't it?

polar canyon
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mane likes being there I think but kyogre hates it

stone trellis
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Oh yeah, Wide Guard blocks Icy Wind.

stone trellis
polar canyon
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that would have been pretty optimal but you're playing around wether or not ko leads mirai

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could keep mirai in the back for terrain advantage

nocturne holly
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Who’s on stream

polar canyon
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nick navarre ko tsukide

stone trellis
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Ko Tsukide and Nick Navarre.

nocturne holly
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This is a good game

polar canyon
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mirai nala vs cir kyogre

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awkward start

stone trellis
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Any other confirmed top 8ers?

dull ibex
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wolfe is out?

nocturne holly
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Yea

stone trellis
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Yes.

dull ibex
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shame.

stone trellis
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He placed 42nd.

polar canyon
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ho-oh is out which is sadder

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commentary muted

dull ibex
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ig his team wasn't good enough

stone trellis
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And the avalanche has begun.

short quiver
short quiver
stone trellis
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But it's not Clear Amulet.

short quiver
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oh

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calyrex

short quiver
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i played IF for the first time yesterday

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shit was a life altering experience

stone trellis
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IF?

short quiver
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infinite fusion

stone trellis
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Oh.

short quiver
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a life altering experience

stone trellis
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If Nick had targeted the U-turn at Incineroar, Miraidon would've been taken out instantly.

short quiver
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what

stone trellis
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I'm watching the Worlds VGC day 2 stream.

short quiver
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i haven’t watched any of day 2 yet

polar canyon
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nick losing

short quiver
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sure whoever nick is

polar canyon
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kyogre cir

short quiver
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its not wolfey or hooh guy so idc

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or the totodile guy who lost day 1

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imagine making day 2 with totodile

lean ridge
polar canyon
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4-4??

short quiver
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rip totodile

polar canyon
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totodile got 4 wins

short quiver
lean ridge
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I feel like the totodile was never brought to any battles but regardless that’s a very impressive result

short quiver
polar canyon
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just playing with a team of 5

lean ridge
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😭

polar canyon
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gen 7 music

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love it

nocturne holly
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Wait what did Totodile even do

stone trellis
short quiver
polar canyon
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probably not get selected for play

short quiver
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it was probably a flex slot

stone trellis
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Nick PLEASE pull this back 😭🙏

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I want my GOAT to win for once or at least make it to finals for the second time.

short quiver
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i still dk who nick even is so 🤷‍♂️

polar canyon
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me neither but I like his beard

stone trellis
short quiver
stone trellis
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?

short quiver
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i said absolute crayon

stone trellis
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What does that mean?

short quiver
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bro is not chronically online it seens

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it’s a joke way to say cinema

stone trellis
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Oh.

short quiver
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which just means basically cool

nocturne holly
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What type of yt shorts thing is that

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I’ve never heard of crayon either

short quiver
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its not yt shorts

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its instagram

dull ibex
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Did you make it up

dull ibex
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The absolute crayon thing

nocturne holly
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There is NO chance insta reels created that

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insta is bad

short quiver
stone trellis
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Don't miss Hydro...

nocturne holly
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Does that lunala have protect

stone trellis
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Doubt it.

polar canyon
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I knew no wide guard

nocturne holly
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Why not water spout

stone trellis
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Because of Wide Guard.

nocturne holly
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Nvm forget wide guard

stone trellis
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Water Spout would've won here.

short quiver
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isnt water spout the same as eruption

nocturne holly
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Ye

foggy lodge
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yes

stone trellis
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Yeah, why?

short quiver
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just asking.

nocturne holly
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It’s over nick 💔

polar canyon
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We're not getting the rest of the shoutouts

nocturne holly
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Wait nvm

foggy lodge
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now its fake out cir moongeist cir

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its over

short quiver
stone trellis
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Why can't he Protect and Water Spout?

foggy lodge
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oh wait he has tera

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it isnt over

nocturne holly
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That’s a great turn for nick

stone trellis
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He targeted the wrong mon.

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But yeah, that's huge.

short quiver
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what was wolfeys final score

stone trellis
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7-3.

nocturne holly
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That’s so unfornate for ko

short quiver
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day 2 won a game and lost the next. unfortunate.

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what res did he lose to

stone trellis
polar canyon
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No way dude

stone trellis
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TRIPLE PROTECT HOLY SHIT

strange juniper
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wtf

foggy lodge
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triple protect nah wtf

jade dust
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I rather watch Nick lol

nocturne holly
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I’m pissed for Ko now

jade dust
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TRIPLE PROTECT

polar canyon
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The world wants nick to win

lean ridge
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😭

jade dust
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HOLY FUCKING SHIT

foggy lodge
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Ko seems tilted

jade dust
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I HAVE NEVER SEEN A TRIPLE PROTECT

stone trellis
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Shrek, do you think Nick might be able to do it?

jade dust
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WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK

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Maybe

stone trellis
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Chill, it's only 1/9.

polar canyon
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1/9 chance after a 1/3 chance

jade dust
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I hope he wins worlds

nocturne holly
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Man I feel bad for KO

polar canyon
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It's just destiny at this point

jade dust
short quiver
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what res pair did wolfey lose to 😕

stone trellis
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This is fire.

real prairie
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Wow

real prairie
jade dust
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First time I see a triple protect

stone trellis
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Luck was on Nick's side, but I am not complaining.

stone trellis
short quiver
stone trellis
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Such low odds.

polar canyon
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It's a bit rarer than a crit

stone trellis
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It's not that crazy, but it certainly was impressive.

dense latch
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crit is 1/24

polar canyon
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It's just crazy because he banked on it to win

stone trellis
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Yeah, 1/27 is rarer than 1/24.

jade dust
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I think he could have won without Kyoger but it definitely helped

dense latch
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triple protect is 1/9

jade dust
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Leech seed can chip incineroar

dense latch
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1/3 x1/3

polar canyon
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The second time is 1/9

real prairie
dense latch
strange juniper
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the third has a 1/9 chance

polar canyon
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Third I mean

short quiver
stone trellis
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What are we thinking for Nick's lead?

jade dust
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Honestly what I want the most is shadow raider to not win lol

polar canyon
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Good

jade dust
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After that I want ice rider to win

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Salt to shadow rider round after defeat

nocturne holly
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Csr hate is forced

polar canyon
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Watch this volt switch into incineroar

real prairie
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These matchups are why I run tera ground CIR

stone trellis
polar canyon
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Watch this direct switch into incineroar that's what I meant

jade dust
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Tera fairy is kinda weird

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For ice rider

stone trellis
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It's neutral into quite a few things that it's normally weak to.

foggy lodge
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no it isnt

jade dust
nocturne holly
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Fairy is good crodie

stone trellis
real prairie
foggy lodge
real prairie
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And ofc the dark resistance as Paul said

foggy lodge
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thats why this team runs fairy

jade dust
polar canyon
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If it was just for the quad weaknesses it would have been better to run dark

jade dust
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Immune to burn

stone trellis
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In rain?

foggy lodge
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yes ofc

jade dust
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For the Kyoger pair no it makes sense

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Also grass makes it weak to other ice riders

foggy lodge
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shrekers you are so good nick navarre didn't have your crazy good idea

jade dust
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Lol wdym

stone trellis
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He's being sarcastic.

jade dust
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I know

real prairie
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Don't understand that

jade dust
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I mean I use Miraidon and CIR

real prairie
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Why not wood hammer

jade dust
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Not Kyoger

stone trellis
real prairie
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But I doubt it

jade dust
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I guess fairy makes sense if Kyogre is your other restricted

stone trellis
lean ridge
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I’ve seen a lot of ogre cir teams run Tera grass as well for spore immunity

dense latch
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tera fairy is a good neutral tera for cir in general

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we saw it in reg g a fair bit

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and some players brought tera fairy cir next to stuff like mirai

polar canyon
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How common is cir nala

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Like hard tr

dense latch
foggy lodge
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very uncommo

lean ridge
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Yea cir is so bulky it’s fine taking neutral hits from most mons

jade dust
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Why double protect?

stone trellis
polar canyon
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I think it's about time I start looking at small local events again

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Last time I considered it I only didn't do it because the one I was thinking was in a shady area

stone trellis
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YO

nocturne holly
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Is tr still up

foggy lodge
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no wide guard was critical

stone trellis
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It just ended.

nocturne holly
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Nvm

stone trellis
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But Miraidon cannot KO both of them.

jade dust
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Ok maybe he can do it

foggy lodge
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its over if tr ended

nocturne holly
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shifu can tho

foggy lodge
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its edrift kyogre surging cir

polar canyon
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Wonder what the one ursa bm that made it to day 2 was doing

stone trellis
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Shifu needs Tera Water to OHKO.

foggy lodge
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if shifu lives the glacial its over

stone trellis
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I've calced it.

foggy lodge
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it lives surging

stone trellis
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Damn it.

nocturne holly
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lmao

jade dust
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wtf

foggy lodge
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lmfao

jade dust
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Why didn’t he protect Kyogre

nocturne holly
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What item did the cir have

stone trellis
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Leftovers.

foggy lodge
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KO TSUKIDE TOP 8

stone trellis
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Fuck, man.

polar canyon
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It's the lefties leech seed

jade dust
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He had to protect kyogre

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What a throw

polar canyon
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I'm sorry mr. Ice

stone trellis
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Damn it, Icy.

nocturne holly
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I wanted nick to go farther

stone trellis
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How's Hirofumi Kimura doing?

nocturne holly
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Ko is good tho

jade dust
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He had to protect Kyogre

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What was he thinking

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Whatever

polar canyon
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That he shouldn't protect kyogre

jade dust
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Gg

stone trellis
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I don't fucking know.

polar canyon
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Urshifu can hurt a lot through resist in rain

foggy lodge
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if ko reads the protect and double ups into cir he loses

nocturne holly
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He’s

jade dust
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Yeah but can only attack one

nocturne holly
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He wasn’t sure who ko would target

jade dust
nocturne holly
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It’s easy to say that in hindsight after u know how it plays out

polar canyon
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World champ lunala would be pretty cool

nocturne holly
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It would

foggy lodge
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in the end it came to a mindgame lol

stone trellis
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Do we have our top 8?

jade dust
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I have seen worse throws specially yesterday

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So this was more reasonable

stone trellis
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Like what?

foggy lodge
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whats your definition of throw lmao

jade dust
polar canyon
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Losing

foggy lodge
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not getting the 50 50 right

polar canyon
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Losing is a throw you should've just won

foggy lodge
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indeed

jade dust
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No lol, doing a risky play when you had a safe option to win

foggy lodge
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WHAT SAFE OPTION

jade dust
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Giovanny yesterday for example

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Leaving a low HP Koraidon live

foggy lodge
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giovanni yesterday has a wide guard, tera and protect mind game all at the same time

stone trellis
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I'm rooting for Giovanni and Hirofumi.

jade dust
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Lmfao

fringe dagger
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samuels our next world champion in 17 years from now

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im calling it

foggy lodge
jade dust
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Of what

foggy lodge
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whats the safe play of the protect wide guard and tera mind game all at the same time lmfao

jade dust
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Wide guard and attack Koraidon was the safer play

foggy lodge
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yeah and if koraidon protects and csr goes for psychic he is in the disadvantage now

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and then its another 50 50 again

bold geode
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There is 1 Miraidon in top 8

fringe dagger
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huh

stone trellis
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How many CSRs?

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6 or 5?

bold geode
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Like 4-5

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Think 5

stone trellis
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Man, I hope Hirofumi can keep up the Japanese win streak.

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I know Ko's the most likely one to win, but I don't care.

dense latch
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mdb vs montana mott on stream lfg

stone trellis
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When are they starting?

nocturne holly
polar canyon
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Kinda rooting for ko after this match, I love lunala

fringe dagger
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imma watch worlds on my tv for maximum hype

stone trellis
polar canyon
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At what time are finals again?

stone trellis
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7 PM GMT-7.

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So 1-3 AM for all the Europeans.

polar canyon
bold geode
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Gio in top 4 LFG

dense latch
bold geode
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Yup he was on side stream apparently

foggy lodge
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yes

bold geode
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Bruh and you ain't tell me

foggy lodge
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its a mirror now

polar canyon
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Monke did you watch ho-oh lose

foggy lodge
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brother how do you get top 8 at 3 worlds in a row this man is crazy

bold geode
polar canyon
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Withering rose emoji broken heart emoji

foggy lodge
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and I said early in day 1 "oh I think he won't do well because he switched teams in last minute"

dense latch
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same lol

foggy lodge
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well this is the cart ladder team

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but Montana changed the Valiant for Raging and MDB switched valiant for cornerstone

stone trellis
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So the top 8 match has started already?

fringe dagger
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its about to

polar canyon
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Already?

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Man I'm missing this one

fringe dagger
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even the movesets are similar 😭😭😭

bold geode
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@foggy lodge do they have the other set on side or

stone trellis
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What other set?

foggy lodge
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no

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they only have the coming back soon thing

bold geode
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Ok

lean ridge
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Looks like this for me

polar canyon
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the sidestream scout

foggy lodge
bold geode
fringe dagger
lean ridge
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Even the leads r mirrored

foggy lodge
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haven't seen iguess its rilla csr lol

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oh zama pao

lean ridge
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Yep

fringe dagger
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dragon tera in front of pao is ballsy

lean ridge
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Did the chien pao just icy wind

foggy lodge
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ITS ICY WIND

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AHAHAHAHA

lean ridge
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😭

polar canyon
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Honesty

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Hype

nocturne holly
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Icy winddddde

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that’s a cool tech

fringe dagger
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honestly thats genius tech

polar canyon
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And now a pao in front of dragon zama

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Oh wait no asleep

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Not a psychic I kinda expected it to be safe from wide guard

foggy lodge
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DRAGONITE

fringe dagger
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he mightve been in a better spot if he led with amoonguss

polar canyon
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Let's see if that's espeed range

lean ridge
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No way it’s outrage

polar canyon
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That's so funny

lean ridge
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Omg it is 😭

foggy lodge
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he is playing so risky

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DRAGORAN

dense latch
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zama pao in the back for mdb should get him the win regardless

fringe dagger
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montana could come back

foggy lodge
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Michael's Dnite is named IbiVGC btw that's so cute

polar canyon
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Coming back after that is crazy can he do it

lean ridge
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Sucker punch mind games?

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Or is there another option for mdb

polar canyon
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Asleep sucker punch mind games

lean ridge
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Oh

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It’s asleep 😭

dense latch
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damn i forgot pao was asleep

polar canyon
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It's still turn 1 of sleep too

foggy lodge
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how many turns of sleep does it have

lean ridge
#

Hasn’t taken any turns yet

foggy lodge
#

its over

dense latch
#

o right pao is faster

polar canyon
#

Crazy comeback

foggy lodge
#

ITS MODEST AGAIN ADHEWIOFH

dense latch
#

wait nvm ice shard

fringe dagger
#

biggest mind games

lean ridge
#

It needs to wake now or it’s over

polar canyon
#

Holy

dense latch
#

LETS GOOOO

nocturne holly
#

Fuck

fringe dagger
#

gg

polar canyon
#

This is what it's all about

lean ridge
#

Damnnn

foggy lodge
#

wait did Montana mess up

polar canyon
#

Gambling baby

nocturne holly
#

No

#

It woke up

fringe dagger
polar canyon
#

Just a turn 1 wake up

foggy lodge
#

nono

bold geode
#

Damn

lean ridge
#

It was a 50/50 on the wide guard vs protect I think

foggy lodge
#

I think psychic pao body press zama wins him the game

exotic river
#

im running a galrian weezing with a slaking in double battles, what other mons could i use to complement the neutralizing gas

bold geode
#

Nah the right play
Encore Zam Heavy Slam Pao

foggy lodge
#

because it was at +1

polar canyon
#

Ability shield incineroar is fun

nocturne holly
#

What is the chance of waking up

bold geode
#

But still wake up was clutch

fringe dagger
#

yeah

nocturne holly
#

Did they choose the almost mirror on purpose

bold geode
#

Actually
Nah nvm any play was fine, the wake up was the decider 100%

foggy lodge
#

yeah montana messed up

polar canyon
#

There's the shmungus lead

foggy lodge
#

pao cant protect

fringe dagger
#

montana wouldve won if it werent for the wakeup

foggy lodge
#

psychic pao kills pao body press zama

#

if derbeste attacks zama can only kill one of montana's mons

bold geode
foggy lodge
#

he opened to lose to wake up because of that

bold geode
#

Oh the other

foggy lodge
#

the pao didn't take any turns of sleep when zama protected so psychic pao was safe

bold geode
#

Yeah but like
Even then it's a 1/3 MDB got so

foggy lodge
#

nah

#

like he was lucky yeah but still

bold geode
#

Could've done better to avoid the luck but like tbh even there it was like you're really not in trouble unless they wake up

foggy lodge
#

you can't bank on a 2/3 to win your match in this spot imo but okay

bold geode
#

I mean yeah he should've avoided it I agree but like
In the moment with pressure that could be going it's not like the worst either

foggy lodge
#

ah yeah

#

Montana just choked

bold geode
#

I wouldn't say it's a choke maybe
Feels more like a hindsight thing

#

Probably didn't see it

dense latch
#

looks like montana's getting game 2 tho

nocturne holly
#

is that not a choke/mistake tho

foggy lodge
#

its still a bo3

dense latch
#

wait

foggy lodge
#

goddamn playing wide guard mindgames against derbeste seems super annoying

#

makes sense this guy did so well with zama and hard TR previously lmao

nocturne holly
#

Great adaptation

foggy lodge
#

MONTANA READS THE PROTECT

dense latch
#

game winning

#

had mdb gone for astral barrage i think he just wins

fringe dagger
#

i want rockpon to get into top 4

foggy lodge
#

yes

dense latch
#

but it's mindgames at that point

foggy lodge
#

goddamn this MU its just pure 50/50s

nocturne holly
#

It’s so fun to watch

#

Playing as one of them must be absolute hell

#

There’s like no safe options

stone trellis
#

Zamazenta VS Zamazenta is giving me 2017 Celesteela VS Celesteela vibes.

nocturne holly
#

They can actually do stuff to each other tho

molten oasis
#

How go the matches?

stone trellis
#

I know.

nocturne holly
#

Celesteela couldn’t

stone trellis
#

Have Hirofumi and/or Gio made it to top 4?

dense latch
#

gio has

stone trellis
#

Did Hirofumi get eliminated?

nocturne holly
#

Icy wind is good for this mu

foggy lodge
#

James evans vs Ko tsukide on the sidestream

next stump
#

holy crazy game 3

foggy lodge
#

this looks bad for michael hmmmm

nocturne holly
#

Have they clicked wide guard once??

#

Nice read

fringe dagger
#

gg?

foggy lodge
#

ITS OVER???

nocturne holly
#

Wait wasn’t chien just faster because of icy wind

dense latch
#

damn

forest arrow
#

Wow that was crazy

fringe dagger
#

no chance right?

foggy lodge
#

ice spinner crit?

#

but idk if pao zama still have enough gas to beat csr in the back

#

psychic body press

dense latch
#

yea ggs

foggy lodge
#

michael needs a spinner crit

fringe dagger
#

yep montana wins

foggy lodge
#

ggs

nocturne holly
#

It’s over
Montana top 4

stone trellis
#

Congrats to Montana.

chrome knot
#

AAHAHHHHHAAAAA

foggy lodge
#

man top 2 top 4 top 8 at worlds in a row

#

genuinely how

stone trellis
#

So now we just need to know who the final top 4 member will be.

dense latch
#

great performance for a team he picked up right before worlds

foggy lodge
#

fs

stone trellis
#

Maybe he was practicing it on the side.

chrome knot
#

mdb losing to having a rough time….

stone trellis
#

Who's the last one in the top four?

bold geode
#

@foggy lodge how's the side going

foggy lodge
#

NA redemption arc damn

lean ridge
#

I checked the tier list after he lost too ngl

foggy lodge
lean ridge
#

Montana is in the 4-4 tier

bold geode
#

US IS COOKIN

foggy lodge
chrome knot
#

he lost to

#

c tier, 4-4 record player

bold geode
#

My boy Gio is in top 4

lean ridge
#

😭

chrome knot
#

how’d he let that happen

bold geode
#

What

#

Wym

foggy lodge
#

underrating Montana Mott is crazy

chrome knot
#

mdb made a tierlist of worlds players

foggy lodge
#

that dude is so fucking good

bold geode
#

OH THAT LMFAO

chrome knot
#

and put Montana Mott at C Tier, 4-4 record

#

and lost to him!

bold geode
#

Bruh deadass I feel like all the players we didn't expect to be this far made it this far

dense latch
#

yea

#

idt anyone could've guessed marco silva and fedecampo going out in day 1

bold geode
#

Like where TF is Marco Silva or whoever

stone trellis
foggy lodge
#

the only person that I saw people really expected to do well and did was Michael

bold geode
#

Yeah that's it

#

He's the only front runner that made it this far

foggy lodge
#

marco fede and joey were out in day 1

dense latch
#

mdb's worlds tier list was always going to come back to bite him

bold geode
#

Sure Gio was making top 16 consistently in VR tours coming into this but like damn

stone trellis
#

So we have MDB, Ko, Gio and who else?

foggy lodge
#

justin wolfey and ceree were out in day 2 round 1

jade dust
#

Gio is next right?

foggy lodge
stone trellis
lean ridge
stone trellis
#

Oh yeah, sorry.

#

Did Hirofumi make it?

lean ridge
#

Still playing as well

bold geode
#

Chat
Incineroar has only 4 spots in top 8 and they're all against each othee

nocturne holly
#

who’s in the top 4 so far

bold geode
#

Is there actually a world where Incineroar does not win this Worlds

lean ridge
foggy lodge
stone trellis
#

Great.

fringe dagger
#

im lowkey rooting for victor

stone trellis
#

When's the round starting?

nocturne holly
#

Ko and hirofumi‼️

dense latch
#

that's gonna be such a great game

#

those are my two fav players still in contention lol

nocturne holly
#

That’s gonna be a great game hirofumi vs victor

stone trellis
lean ridge
#

Ko playing rn on the second stream he’s down 0-1 rn but game 2 is looking very good

bold geode
#

LET'S GO GIO

nocturne holly
#

Did Montana have any top cuts or high results this season

foggy lodge
#

James missed a sandsear

nocturne holly
#

I lowk want Montana to win

fringe dagger
bold geode
#

My boy Gio is cookin

nocturne holly
stone trellis
#

I want Gio and Hirofumi to win.

dense latch
foggy lodge
#

ANOTHER SANDSEAR MISS LMAO

dense latch
#

and a day two in vancouver and sacramento

fringe dagger
#

dont spoil im still not there yet 😭

nocturne holly
#

Is the side stream on v road?

fringe dagger
#

im watching on play pokemon

lean ridge
#

Yep

next stump
#

montana also won a regional last year with CSR

foggy lodge
#

yes he is LA regional champion

#

is chien-pao AV drip

stone trellis
#

Nah, it sucks balls.

fringe dagger
#

its frail asf

nocturne holly
#

Sad to see fall off of lando

stone trellis
#

Again, AV is good on Pokemon with good natural bulk.

foggy lodge
forest arrow
#

I guarantee it was only for CSR

#

No it’s not drip

stone trellis
jade dust
#

Gio should be next right?

bold geode
forest arrow
#

He’s already top 4 so I don’t think he’s next

nocturne holly
jade dust
#

What matches are left to play?

bold geode
#

AMEN

forest arrow
#

AMEN

bold geode
#

Hirofumi gonna play top 8 set on main

foggy lodge
#

there's a japanese girl going crazy for torviv in the chat LMAO

forest arrow
#

Lizard

nocturne holly
#

Why is he called Torviv

foggy lodge
#

could he come out with double trophy

nocturne holly
#

Wait did victor win

nocturne holly
#

Wait nvm that’s the next game right

foggy lodge
forest arrow
#

We’re still in top 8

#

I think it’s Hirofumi V Medina next

nocturne holly
#

Yea

jade dust
#

What teams we have left?

bold geode
foggy lodge
#

torviv gotta be in the list of most attractive VGC players fs

jade dust
#

Besides Zama CSR

forest arrow
#

no I’ve been up just chilling and watching

bold geode
forest arrow
#

I do walk away in between tho

nocturne holly
polar canyon
bold geode
forest arrow
#

I just shit my pants

foggy lodge
dense latch
#

deserved glaze

bold geode
foggy lodge
#

Agati too imo

polar canyon
#

Objectively

foggy lodge
#

wolfey looks fine

nocturne holly
wintry valley
#

Morning chat. Someone give me a TLDR for the last 6hrs?

polar canyon
#

Ho-oh lost :(

wintry valley
#

RIP

jade dust
foggy lodge
#

TORVIV TORVIV

jade dust
#

Objectively speaking the best results make the best player

#

That’s just how it works

dense latch
#

best vgc player oat + succesful youtube channel + nice hair combo is kinda busted

nocturne holly
#

Lmao

forest arrow
#

The only Ho oh top 16 is still peak

wintry valley
#

Wait a sec, all world champs are KOd right?

foggy lodge
#

yes

jade dust
#

In any other competitive scene, the best player is the one that won the most tournaments

nocturne holly
#

No they’re conscious

jade dust
#

Wolfey has broken multiple records

foggy lodge
#

now is Torviv vs Hirofumi

polar canyon
bold void
#

Is anyone undefeated still?

foggy lodge
#

no

nocturne holly
#

@foggy lodge u may be right about victor….

foggy lodge
#

I KNOW RIGHT

#

LETS GO HARRY POTTER LOOKALIKE

polar canyon
#

He's the most influential

nocturne holly
#

ah HELL no

#

Not smeargle

foggy lodge
#

the opposing one as ruination btw

lean ridge
#

The side stream game is coming down to the wire

nocturne holly
#

Def boost smeargle

#

That’s gonna matter

polar canyon
#

40 bp heavy slam

lean ridge
#

Incin lando vs incin miraidon

#

Both players on their last 2 mons

polar canyon
#

I don't know what bp for it is actually but it's low

nocturne holly
#

Nvm it doesn’t

forest arrow
#

Sleepy dog

lean ridge
#

OMG the lando lived a Draco

polar canyon
#

Maybe it's that lando slow set

lean ridge
#

Incineroar 1v1 now to decide the set

polar canyon
#

I really like that one

lean ridge
#

And they r both -1 😭

#

Just spamming knock off this is so funny

foggy lodge
#

JAMES EVANS WINS

forest arrow
#

James Evan’s top 4?

bold void
#

Ok so I haven't been keeping up and am realising that lots of top players have most likely been eliminated already

lean ridge
#

Yep

forest arrow
#

Damn came down to incin v incin, that’s wild

lean ridge
#

That’s so unfortunate ko wins if he didn’t Tera his incin

next stump
#

wow that’s going to haunt him for a long time

lean ridge
#

I think he was worried abt sansear but Evans just ended up using earth power on the mirai

polar canyon
#

World champ lunala..

foggy lodge
#

yeah

#

I think he had to bank on sandsear miss

polar canyon
#

Wilted rose emoji broken heart emoji

lean ridge
#

Ya

nocturne holly
#

kooooo

#

NOOOOOO

polar canyon
#

Did any smeargle terastalize so far

foggy lodge
#

no koraidon?

nocturne holly
#

I didn’t watch the game why did ko tera his Incin

foggy lodge
#

cuz Lando was threatening sandsear storm

molten oasis
#

Who’s in top 4 rn?

lean ridge
#

Montana, gio and James Evans

foggy lodge
#

now is Torviv vs Hirofumi

#

we have in the top 4

#

Zama CSR
Koraidon Lunala
Koraidon CSR

#

and the last one can be either Zama CSR or Koraidon CIR

polar canyon
#

Gambling is always worth it

foggy lodge
#

+2 smeargle lmao

polar canyon
#

That's why smeargle does it every turn

foggy lodge
#

protect fake out was actually genious but got ruined by the speed boost

polar canyon
#

99% of smeargles faint just before the +2 speed

lean ridge
#

Ok it was a crit

foggy lodge
#

oh and flame charge crit

#

ughhh

nocturne holly
#

Why are people in the chat still talking bout Wolfe

polar canyon
#

Popular

bold geode
#

AMERICA BABY

#

The one time I feel patriotic

solid frigate
#

lol

short quiver
nocturne holly
#

Hirofumi❤️

waxen dock
#

252+ Atk Tera Water Sword of Ruin Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 100 HP / 236+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned in Rain on a critical hit: 180-216 (100 - 120%) -- guaranteed OHKO

stone trellis
#

I know Hirofumi's going to lose this, but damn is it gonna be close.

nocturne holly
#

This set is good

fringe dagger
#

i was getting food who won

nocturne holly
#

1-1

foggy lodge
#

game 3 now

#

SMEARGLE SPEED TIES DUDE WTF

jade dust
#

Let’s go Hirofumi

#

I want an ice rider in finals

#

Not another fucking Zama shadow rider

fringe dagger
#

were on game 3..

polar canyon
#

This game is a win win because either way it's one less smeargle that can make it to finals

nocturne holly
#

But it’s also a lose lose because a smeargle can make it to finals

polar canyon
#

This game is a win lose

fringe dagger
nocturne holly
#

I think that’s all games

waxen dock
#

252+ Atk Tera Water Sword of Ruin Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 20 Def Calyrex-Ice in Rain on a critical hit: 204-240 (98.5 - 115.9%) -- 98% chance to OHKO

polar canyon
#

If smeargle shadow zama wins I'm making someone cry

fringe dagger
#

i dont care who wins i just dont want smeargle to win

solid frigate
#

nah

Koraidon need to win this because Miraidon won it last year

polar canyon
#

Fr

#

Could have been scale shot koraidon tho

foggy lodge
#

NOOOOO I LIKE ZAMA I LIKE CSR I LIKE INNCI I LIKE SMEARGLE

fringe dagger
#

lando the GOAT

nocturne holly
forest arrow
#

I need korai to win

lean ridge
#

Smeargle still has the sash too

forest arrow
#

Pls korai i believe

fringe dagger
nocturne holly
lean ridge
#

Smearge mvp

foggy lodge
#

ITS A ROLLL

lean ridge
#

Oh wait

polar canyon
#

The world needs korai

foggy lodge
#

CMON ZAMA WAKE UP AAAAA

fringe dagger
#

smeargles at +6 SpD lmao

polar canyon
#

Sleep is the worst mechanic in pokemon

lean ridge
#

Sleepy dog

bold geode
#

Harry Potter lost

fringe dagger
#

smeargles the main antagonist of reg I. change my mind

polar canyon
#

But is it over

polar canyon
torn parrot
#

Looks like wolfey is out

Where’s that ho oh player

torn parrot
#

Oh out

nocturne holly
#

Same place as Wolfe

bold geode
nocturne holly
#

like out

foggy lodge
#

its over

#

Torviv loses now

#

no way to take out Inci

torn parrot
#

I’m hyped for 4 hour vid of 7-3 run 🙏

polar canyon
#

Ho-oh player lives on in our hearts 🕊️🕊️🕊️ gone so soon

#

It almost feels like he's still here

nocturne holly
#

Dammm it

polar canyon
#

Apparently twitch chat mods were removing messages mentioning him because chat is english only

#

Guess that includes names

fringe dagger
#

smeargle is genuinely a monster wtf 💀💀

nocturne holly
#

Victor had a great run

lean ridge
#

Smeargle surviving basically the whole battle was crazy

nocturne holly
#

hirofumi top 4 ❤️❤️

forest arrow
#

3 Koraidons top 4

stone trellis
#

HOLY SHIT HIROFUMI WON

forest arrow
#

LFG

polar canyon
#

I didn't see it what happened

fringe dagger
foggy lodge
#

no

nocturne holly
solid frigate
#

The Flares of the Blazing Sun Shines on Koraidon

fringe dagger
torn parrot
#

AA_Uraraka_ThumbsUp looking forward to Gen 10

polar canyon
#

Now I still hope hiro loses because still playing smeargle but koraidon lfg

true niche
#

Two smeargles in top 4 BTW? Or is there more players using it?

bold geode
#

Well @foggy lodge you know what this means

jade dust
#

Hiro has this

fringe dagger
jade dust
#

Gg

torn parrot
#

nah he’ll be back

jade dust
#

Good job Hiro

bold geode
#

KORAI CIR IN TOP 4 WITH THE ONLY JAPAN PLAYER

forest arrow
#

Smeargle isn’t that bad

bold geode
#

BETTER STICK TO YOUR FUCKIN GUNS MAX

foggy lodge
#

IM GONNA DO

stone trellis
bold geode
#

ALEX GÓMEZ SAID IT WAS GOOD

fringe dagger
#

MONTANA PLSS WIN FOR ME

foggy lodge
#

BETTER WIN HIROFUMI THE GAME DIDN'T LET YOU WIN A SMEARGLE SPEED TIE FOR NOTHING

bold geode
#

GIO WIN IT FOR ME BAYBEE

stone trellis
#

The agenda is being maintained magnificently.

torn parrot
bold geode
#

AMERICA

stone trellis
jade dust
#

My most hated enemy

fringe dagger
#

ho oh rlly blessed hirofumi

stone trellis
#

And yet, he might bring Koraidon and CIR their first Worlds win.

torn parrot
#

Smeargle is Smeargle unfortunately

foggy lodge
stone trellis
bold geode
jade dust
#

Hiro or Gio better win worlds

bold geode
#

RAAAAAAHHHHHHH

dense latch
#

hirofumi 2025 world champ PrayGrovyle

foggy lodge
#

SINCE RIOPASER WON THE EU INVITATIONAL I KEW IT

polar canyon
bold geode
#

HELL NAH

stone trellis
forest arrow
#

Yo Mirai CIR kinda ass

bold geode
#

C'MON GIO LFG

stone trellis
#

This Worlds is so fucking hype, bro.

foggy lodge
jade dust
bold geode
foggy lodge
#

over a unite player is crazy

forest arrow
fringe dagger
torn parrot
stone trellis
bold geode
#

Yo Miraidon kinda ass chat

polar canyon
forest arrow
polar canyon
#

And pokemon becomes 60% better

dull ibex
jade dust
forest arrow
#

Ditto buddy

bold geode
dense latch
#

miraifraud

bold geode
#

But it did not get into top 4

stone trellis
dull ibex
dense latch
#

midraidon

stone trellis
#

Anyway, when's the next round starting?

bold geode
forest arrow
#

lol

bold geode
dull ibex
stone trellis
#

I'm not on YouTube right now, monke.

bold geode
#

Bruh

#

Not an iPad kid like Max

forest arrow
#

Lmao

dense latch
#

koraidon pulling the underdog story once again

#

3/4 in top 4

torn parrot
#

If you think about it smeargke just abuses the good stuff
So if the good stuff is worse then smeargle will be more balanced

forest arrow
#

Smeargle isn’t even that bad

#

Acting like it still has 100 acc dark void

dense latch
#

kill smeargle

fringe dagger
#

death to smeargle!!