competitive_discussion

[solid frigate]

I kinda just skipped Breakfast everytime

[lofty tartan]

I know supper is derivative

[nocturne holly]

Summer cooked my sleep schedule
So I wake up at 12-1pm
And skip breakfast and have lunch right away
Then have dinner at like 9

[molten oasis]

Awww

[solid frigate]

So true lmao

[lofty tartan]

I work overnight security so my sleep schedule is garbage 😐

[solid frigate]

Good luck man

[nocturne holly]

U do cybersecurity right

[foggy lodge]

Is it true that in america people often buy fast food for dinner or lunch

[lofty tartan]

Right now I'm doing physical security. I work for the city.

[nocturne holly]

Oh deadass

[lofty tartan]

100%

Fast food is also hella expensive now so I ain't buying it for a snack

[nocturne holly]

Don’t forget breakfast

[foggy lodge]

My brother told me that americans would like buy fast food for the regular day and mainly cook in special occasions

[solid frigate]

I don’t think they need a kitchen anymore-

[lofty tartan]

My wife and I cook on the majority of times, and we get fast food when we're too lazy to cook/can afford comfortable/want it

[foggy lodge]

Unlike here where we cook regularly and buy fast food for only special occasions

[lofty tartan]

Like tonight is a beef stir fry

[solid frigate]

That’s basically everywhere else

[foggy lodge]

Ah fair

Its wat better to do that

[lofty tartan]

I don't eat fast food often because it's so bad for you.

[foggy lodge]

I want to learn how to cook more things

[lofty tartan]

Cooking is a valuable skill

[foggy lodge]

Fs

[nocturne holly]

greatu can learn from me

I can cook any type of egg

[solid frigate]

I kinda just cook fried Rice for Lunch or even try to make Japanese curry in special occasions

[molten oasis]

Yes

[nocturne holly]

Even the ones that need to be really cloudy or fluffy

[lofty tartan]

I love soft-boiled or poached eggs

[molten oasis]

I’d buy groceries but like

I’m broke and idk where to get things to cook for cheap.

[nocturne holly]

aldis

[lofty tartan]

Honestly it's often cheaper to buy the parts of a meal than a constructed meal

[nocturne holly]

idk

[lofty tartan]

Walmart

[nocturne holly]

not Wegmans tho

[lofty tartan]

It's cheaper than my local grocery store.

[nocturne holly]

Wegmans is mad expensive

[next stump]

there's a reason the average american is obese

[solid frigate]

Yeah agreed

Sometimes my mom take me to Sainsbury’s(local supermarket)

To get discounted Groceries

[lofty tartan]

The worst thing I consume are energy drinks 👀

[nocturne holly]

Just have diet soda

Diet soda is so goated

[foggy lodge]

I'm starting my no soda week because I realized I drink too much lol

[lofty tartan]

Diet soda has sugar substitutes

It's way worse for you

[solid frigate]

I drink Water most of the time

Maybe Milk or Apple
Juice

I don’t really drink energy drinks cuz my mom doesn’t let me drink them till this day

[lofty tartan]

I will not consume aspartame if I can avoid it

Honestly carbonated drinks aren't good for you at all.

[molten oasis]

Walmart?

[lofty tartan]

Waaaaaaaaay way back when, I'd get those ladies buying salads through McDonald's with extra grilled chicken and a diet Coke.

Listen lady, that diet Coke isn't doing you any favors.

[solid frigate]

I think I ordered this during Dinner when I go To Birmingham for vacation (not the regional Run trip)

[lofty tartan]

Yeah Walmart has produce and everything you'd need to make stuff.

Just inspect produce for freshness before buying.

Because Walmart is also notoriously lazy.

[solid frigate]

This is common sense atp

[lofty tartan]

You'd think! LOL

Listen man I deal with the public professionally on the regular. Common sense is pretty rare.

[solid frigate]

You’ll be shocked people don’t have these habits now

[foggy lodge]

The amount of times I've found things open or already caducated in Walmart

[lofty tartan]

I've encountered countless people who don't know how to use their debit card, or don't know how to pay with cash.

Or can't count coins.

[solid frigate]

BRUH

[lofty tartan]

I've literally had to walk young people through using their debit card to make a purchase.

[solid frigate]

Man suddenly I feel really smart /j

[lofty tartan]

Not even remotely lying here.

My generation did the next generation a HUGE disservice as parents.

[foggy lodge]

I have classmates that are in the last year of school and don't know how to write emails or log in to gmail

[solid frigate]

Honestly compare to me who can’t find a job for 1-2 years

I feel less embarrassed about it-

[foggy lodge]

I still have to learn how to use excel more profesionally

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/r2d2-same-tired-star-wars-gif-13888503

[foggy lodge]

Seems like a super helpful tool for like anything

[lofty tartan]

I use Excel in my free time

I'm MOUS though

[solid frigate]

I actually try to use Excel to do Team Reports on speed point Break and calls

[lofty tartan]

My whole Baldur's Gate 3 mod is written up in a series of Excel spreadsheets

And a Google Doc

All of my data that I gathered on Iron Crown teams is also located in an Excel spreadsheet

[solid frigate]

Man I’m glad i was born before this generation

[solid frigate]

Man speaking of Crown I forgot I made a meme about it a posted on Twitter

[nocturne holly]

https://pokepast.es/82d0ebf3b9df971c does bolt look good on this or nah

[molten oasis]

Hm, noted

[bold geode]

What's that

[bold geode]

Also as someone who works for Walmart, this is real as fuck

[bold geode]

Personally I love like
I love some of the shit at Sam's Club

@lofty tartan you shop at Sam's or Costco around there

[dull ibex]

dollar what did you think of bananza btw

[bold geode]

Played very little of it but it's good so far

[dull ibex]

is tailroom super aggro?

and can i run tailroom without ice rider?

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/Tabu__24/status/1955362395091808451

Tabu_24 (@Tabu__24)

Sorry @the_one_gio, this is not your worlds.

X · Aug 12, 2025, 8:14 PM

[foggy lodge]

why tf are you named I have a j*b

[molten oasis]

Its monke’s thing of the day

[bold geode]

Damn dude, don't be saying slurs in my chat

[foggy lodge]

@bold geode btw according to Alex some Zama CSR comps were adapting ursh to be sash

Maybe you were actually onto something

[red willow]

Is basculegion good as rain sweeper for reg h

[next stump]

yes

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/cinema-gif-5935759059195122434

Sash Ursh is the way

Having that extra life is so valuable

Also Tera Stellar Close Combat is so fucking good

[dense latch]

an endgame last respects basculegion is some of the scariest shit you can find in the format so yes

[foggy lodge]

Endgame last respects is some of the scariest shit you can find*

That thing just nukes everything in every format

[nocturne holly]

basculegion is fun ash

I’m pretty sure it can ohko amoonguss

Yea no I’ve done it

Basc is so fun to use

[foggy lodge]

@bold geode do your bets

[bold geode]

Incineroar for all slots

[foggy lodge]

That Zama CSR team from cart is also crazy good

Zama Pao will be back

And with Dnite

[bold geode]

Show

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/480a68fe0ec33b00

[molten oasis]

I can’t read this

Well I can’t read like half of it

[foggy lodge]

Drago its in spanish and english

[lofty tartan]

Sam's Club and BJ's Wholesale. Like Sam's but better. Also holy pings, my man.

I went to work about two and a half hours ago so I've been patrolling and playing PoGo

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-stupid-drooling-patrick-star-spongebob-gif-12221001666588210206

Ok but what’s the bottom two?

[foggy lodge]

Just know that jugador = player

[bold geode]

Get fucked

I love Sam's Club dude
We buy so much stuff there and spend a lot but cuz it's me and my mom only we basically have shit for like at least a month

[bold geode]

Oh that bullshit
Yeah I lost to the one I played

Wait the Valiant doesn't carry Wide Guard? Bruh

[wild knot]

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[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/nick-young-huh-what-confused-question-mark-gif-17888030

[foggy lodge]

No

Because its to patch the Zama Mirai MU

I wonder how AV Pao will be do at worlds

AV Pao is like the perfect example of "we are so back" -> "we are so over" -> repeat

Ruination good tho

[molten oasis]

Winner:
Pokémon: Urshifu Rapid
Duo: Mirai Nala
Support: Whimsicott
Player:

Breakout:
Pokemon: Roaring Moon
Duo: Zac Ogre (not cope I swear
Support: Roaring Moon
Player:

Disappointment:
Pokemon: Wellspring
Duo: Korai CIR
Support: Farigiraf

[dense latch]

bo3 low ladder is an interesting place

[foggy lodge]

😭😭😭

Bro has 3 dragon dance mons and 0 resources to set up

[molten oasis]

That’s too good

[dense latch]

wait until they find out that gardevoir has telepathy

[molten oasis]

This team has so much set up wtf

3 ddance mons 2 swords dance mons and then Garde

Oh my god the garchomp is band with swords dance lmfao

The greninja is scarfed with it

[dense latch]

it's like this image

the more you look at it the worse it gets

[molten oasis]

Oh my god that’s so cursed

[dense latch]

to be fair this was their first ever game in the format it looks like a playthrough team

[foggy lodge]

How do I win a GC google tutorial search

[molten oasis]

idk

[solid frigate]

What am i looking at

like genuinely

It feels like they are gonna just throw the most popular mons and go for it

[nocturne holly]

if ur banded into sd u get an extra atk booost
+3

U didn’t know that?

[stone trellis]

So do I get +9 if I click it thrice?

[nocturne holly]

No the game maxes at +6 silly

[waxen dock]

Ehat does it say?

[waxen dock]

The only solid one is the dniye set but it shouls have multiscale not inner focus

[short quiver]

how can i obtain a diancie in SV

i have one from Go but i don’t have the dex entry

[lean ridge]

You would need to either trade your diancie to someone else in home and have them move it to SV, or have someone with a diancie touch trade you it in SV so you can move yours in

[short quiver]

and how am i supposed to find someone who has a diancie in there game 😭

[lean ridge]

I would be able to help but I’m traveling at the moment

[short quiver]

also am i gonna have this issue for my mew and jirachi from BD?

[lean ridge]

Thankfully not, the restriction only applies to Pokemon from GO

[short quiver]

and cant i get darkrai shaymin and arceus all from PLA?

[lean ridge]

Yep

[short quiver]

like naturally in the game

i have BD Lets GO Eevee SWSH and SV if any of those are necessary

[lean ridge]

Yea they require save files of other games to get them in PLA but it looks like you have that covered

[short quiver]

i for sure do

[lean ridge]

🙏

[short quiver]

i just need my diancie situation solved

[lean ridge]

The GO restriction only applies to your account (for some reason), so if you trade your diancie to someone you trust, they will be able to freely move it into SV, and then they can just trade it back to u

[short quiver]

so what if i trade it to myself on a seperate home account

🤔

[lean ridge]

As long as it has Nintendo online that will work as well

[short quiver]

why nintendo online

[lean ridge]

To trade tbe diancie to yourself in SV

[short quiver]

well the accs are on the same switch so i can trade it from the seperate home acc to the sv file i want it in

[lean ridge]

I’ve never done that personally but it could be worth a try

[short quiver]

i have more than one phone so i can swap between pokemon home accounts

[lean ridge]

Move the diancie into your SV game on your second account then trade it back to your main in Home and see if that works

[short quiver]

epic

[lean ridge]

If not you would need to have it traded to u in SV unfortunately

[short quiver]

and then once i finish the pechurant story ill have all the mythicals i care about

well

[lean ridge]

[short quiver]

rip keldeo but i cant do anything about that one

[waxen dock]

I think it is in swsh in dlc

[short quiver]

WHAT

I CAN GET KELDEO???

[lean ridge]

It is part of the swsh dlc

[short quiver]

HELL YEAH

[lean ridge]

And if you really want to grind you can get a shiny one from completing the swsh Pokédex in home

[short quiver]

"aint nobody got time for that"

[lean ridge]

😭

[short quiver]

only one of those id have the motivation for is shiny meloetta for the base 400 in the SV dex

[lean ridge]

If I recall correctly it requires the 800 from the DLCs as well

[short quiver]

sideeye

please be lying to me rn

[woven pelican]

no, the HOME gift keldeo does require all 3 swsh dexes to be complete in HOME

so there's no lie there

[short quiver]

yeah im good then

i dont even wanna do the PLA dex for the manaphy

[woven pelican]

i've given up on that because i cba to get the fossils and magnemite line

[short quiver]

dont you only need to put them from home? surely they could be from a different game as long as it fills the dex

[lean ridge]

They need to originate from the game the dex is for

[woven pelican]

yeah

[short quiver]

aw HELL nah

[lean ridge]

It’s pretty brutal to complete, I ended up doing all of them but it took forever

[woven pelican]

you need to have it come from pla to have it register in the pla HOME dex

[short quiver]

yeah i hate myself bt i dont hate myself enough to be bothered with all that

[lean ridge]

You can breed most of the dex pretty easily but even then it takes so much time

[short quiver]

id have to do it FOUR SEPERATE TIMES cuz of SWSH SV BD AND PLA

i think id rather just backflip off a cliff or smthn

[lean ridge]

😭

[short quiver]

i like shinies i dont like them THAT much

[short quiver]

do i necessarily have to be the one to catch it?

im trying to find any way to make this more bearable for myself

[woven pelican]

don't think so, just has to originate from the game

[short quiver]

hmmm

i just realized i have two seperate diancies

thats good

[jade dust]

Worlds is this weekend right?

[short quiver]

i think so?

[jade dust]

It’s getting close for sure

[cyan smelt]

I've decided to rejig my team, think I'll keep the tr mode but give pecharunt a grassy seed and use ursa, caly-i, rilla, incin and urshifu

[tiny karma]

Item: Grassy Seed

If the terrain is Grassy Terrain, raises holder's Defense by 1 stage. Single use.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[short quiver]

ah cuz it just doesnt have enough defense 😭

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 1025: Pecharunt

Types

Poison/Ghost

Abilities

Poison Puppeteer

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

88/88/160/88/88/88

Total

600

Sableye version 4.28.2

[cyan smelt]

It's more because I want something that's consumed instantly so knock off doesn't do as much

[heady onyx]

What ? I'm barely online these past months and when I do I have to suffer for helpers being condescending and acitng like know-it-all when factually I got things backing me up vs their opinion. What is this ?

Have you warned the helpers to not engage in such behaviors ?!?!

[strange fjord]

whoa, replying after 3 and a half days is crazy

[real prairie]

Jesus, what have i missed.

[cyan smelt]

Just someone who can't let something go

[slate girder]

corrida having a normal one

[cyan smelt]

asakim having a based one

[slate girder]

as always

[cyan smelt]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2420743359 this team might actually be cracked

[stone trellis]

What the Pokepaste.

[cyan smelt]

https://pokepast.es/177768b322830664

[stone trellis]

I'd honestly like to run this team in the actual ladder.

Only issue is the Urshifu and the Ursaluna...

[cyan smelt]

what would you replace?

[stone trellis]

Nothing, I just can't get them in Violet.

[cyan smelt]

oh right

[chrome knot]

urshifu is in the dlc

[cyan smelt]

might be tricky for me to get 0 speed urshifu and ursaluna

[stone trellis]

I'll have to reset my entire save of Violet a second time to get Urshifu again.

I already turned Kubfu into Rapid Strike.

[chrome knot]

its a painful hunt

[cyan smelt]

how on earth would you do urshifu anyway

seems like a long process

[stone trellis]

I should've never traded that 0 Speed Ursaluna.

[chrome knot]

Victoria wanted a 0spe beast ball one for NAIC and i was ready to blow my head off by the end

you just save reset at kubfu with a speed check mon

[cyan smelt]

oh right easier in sv than swsh

[chrome knot]

swsh you can rng manip so not rlyy

[stone trellis]

Or you use a Master Ball to catch it, look at the IVs and then reset until you get one with ideal ones.

[chrome knot]

wanted in a beast ball

master ball is for the weak

[stone trellis]

Boo-hoo.

Saving time is not a weakness.

You just hate yourself.

[chrome knot]

cosmetics are a luxury that i will take part in

[cyan smelt]

i might have to play through the rest of the violet dlc to get a 0 speed pecharunt

[chrome knot]

i love myself alot actually

transitioning has made me the happiest ever

[stone trellis]

I got mine a few days ago already, so I can't reset for it.

And I couldn't be arsed to do it anyway, that battle takes a lot of time.

[graceful scaffold]

im glad :) idk why but i wanna make a team now finally lol

[chrome knot]

omg hi memememey :3

[stone trellis]

In what Reg?

[cyan smelt]

well reg h is coming back on showdown

[graceful scaffold]

well i like regigigas

[foggy lodge]

🥀

[chrome knot]

bwomps you

[graceful scaffold]

memey: sand team master

[cyan smelt]

only partners for that are things that don't care about their ability calyrex shadow

because you need to run weezing

[stone trellis]

Or you can run Ability Shield Koraidon.

[cyan smelt]

yeah ability shield koraidon is cool

[stone trellis]

CSR-Korai Weezing made it to the finals of a regional, it definitely works.

[cyan smelt]

can add arceus because multitype isn't affected by neutralising gas

[graceful scaffold]

oh im just memeing coz they said what reg lol

[chrome knot]

[stone trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-gif-25239410

[stone trellis]

Arceus-CSR seems promising.

[cyan smelt]

swords dance e speed

[graceful scaffold]

also is pokemon finals thing this weekend?

[stone trellis]

Yeah, Worlds will take place from August 15 all the way to August 17.

[chrome knot]

yus

[stone trellis]

Or in my case, all the way to August 8 at 3 AM in the morning.

Time zones suck ass.

[waxen dock]

How do i claim the cp that i get from gc?

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2420760852

[cyan smelt]

It's great when you get the confusion rolls

[stone trellis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2420762483

[stone trellis]

Yep.

[cyan smelt]

Pecharunt is pretty funny

[versed river]

just won against someones reg j team with my reg h team

[stone trellis]

I wonder how much CB Wicked Blow does to Rapid Strike...

[cyan smelt]

Helping hand or nah? You'd have to think not much because it's resisted

[stone trellis]

252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Dark Urshifu Wicked Blow vs. 4 HP / 4 Def Urshifu-Rapid-Strike on a critical hit: 105-124 (59.6 - 70.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[stone trellis]

Helping Hand should be a KO roll.

CC is almost a guaranteed OHKO.

252+ Atk Choice Band Urshifu Close Combat vs. 4 HP / 4 Def Urshifu-Rapid-Strike: 168-198 (95.4 - 112.5%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO

It kills Miraidon, it kills non-tera CIR, it kills literally everything.

[cyan smelt]

Just gotta watch out for the tera fairies

[stone trellis]

Helping Hand Iron Head:

https://tenor.com/view/transitions-kinemaster-black-guy-suit-tiktok-gif-25279479

[cyan smelt]

It's always a safe play to use iron head on csr

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/ragimali/status/1955383964044234768?t=AwSdJetGKauhclbsy6gOPw&s=19

ring ring ring | ragi 🍉 (@ragimali)

building partner said he's completely switching teams

X · Aug 12, 2025, 9:40 PM

[stone trellis]

Who's this guy?

[foggy lodge]

Raghav

[stone trellis]

Stopped using a shit team, immediately won a game with it.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2420839049

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/SoulSurVGC/status/1955292402299928731

Jeudy ➡️ Anaheim (@SoulSurVGC)

[clicking on the exclamation point above my head]

Man the world championship is only three days away *sigh* If only there was a 𝐓𝐞𝐚𝐦 someone can give me

X · Aug 12, 2025, 3:36 PM

This worlds is the one that I've seen most people not having a team lol

[bold geode]

https://x.com/Dollarmonke13/status/1955447033508270212?t=3JxI1hnIRu8Vz8y76TPaGA&s=19

Dollarmonke (@Dollarmonke13)

@SoulSurVGC Slide in my DMs, I gotchu king

X · Aug 13, 2025, 1:51 AM

[bold geode]

Hai there Emma

[foggy lodge]

Rejected

[lofty umbra]

Is victory road the best place to look for rental teams and poke pastes? Seems that it does not update frequently

[foggy lodge]

Because victory road only uploads teams when there are tournaments xd

[bold geode]

BLOCKED BY JAMES

[real prairie]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1axlwmzPA49rYkqXh7zHvAtSP-TKbM0ijGYBPRflLSWw/htmlview

[stone trellis]

Don't be fooled by this cat's cuteness, for she plays MiraiNala.

(Seriously though, this cat can't sit still and let me take a good photo)

[polar canyon]

Zama is so easy to play I should've been doing this forever ago

Go my loyal wall dog‼️

[round abyss]

lab maus>>

weezing arc is gonnnaaaa be funn

[stone trellis]

Go on, my child! Die to a single Electro Drift while contributing absolutely nothing!

[tiny karma]

Arceus's moveset: (Physical)

Aerial Ace, Aqua Tail, Avalanche, Body Press, Body Slam, Brick Break, Bulldoze, Bullet Seed, Cut, Dive, Double-Edge, Dragon Claw, Dragon Tail, Earthquake, Extreme Speed, Facade, Flare Blitz, Fly, Foul Play, Frustration, Fury Cutter, Giga Impact, Gunk Shot, Headbutt, Heavy Slam, Iron Head, Iron Tail, Last Resort, Liquidation, Natural Gift, Outrage, Payback, Phantom Force, Poison Jab, Punishment, Retaliate, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Secret Power, Seismic Toss, Shadow Claw, Shadow Force, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Strength, Supercell Slam, Take Down, Trailblaze, Waterfall, Wild Charge, X-Scissor, Zen Headbutt

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Arceus.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[round abyss]

yo if i ran stomping tantrum with e speed

and like they switch in indeedee or fari or the fish thing and e speed fails

stomping tantrum gets double power next turn right

why is incin running bug tera

[short quiver]

IT WORKED

[next stump]

resists body press while not being weak to astral barrage

[round abyss]

makes sense

anyone have an incin spread i can use?

[short quiver]

yes

[stone trellis]

Also resists Collision Course and every Ground move.

[stone trellis]

I thought it only worked if a move missed.

[short quiver]

no

it works if it failed for any reason

if you were asleep and a move failed cuz you didnt wake up that works too

if it has no effect on the target im pretty sure that works too

it also works if you try and double protect and it fails

[solid frigate]

cat

[round abyss]

what mythicals r u guys gonna use nest reg

[foggy lodge]

Calyrex shadow rider and Miraidon

[round abyss]

type shi

[stone trellis]

CIR + Mirai, occasionally replacing Miraidon with Magearna.

[round abyss]

anyone have amoonguss and incin spread

and water shifu

actually does scarf run any bulk or nah

[stone trellis]

It runs like, 4/4/12.

For some reason, the calcs for 236 Adamant and 252 Adamant are the exact same on Urshifu sometimes.

So you can afford to run a tiny extra amount of bulk.

[late condor]

how do you counter magearna

i now have a heatran on my team but idk

[solid frigate]

Koraidon Lunala no shi-

[knotty mirage]

Try doubling it i guess

[lofty umbra]

Are there any mythicals actually worth using? Instead of restricted like miraidon, koraidon, lunala, calyrex, etc

[round abyss]

i think arc and magearna could potentially be good

[stone trellis]

Arceus and Magearna have potential.

[solid frigate]

honestly

No

Arceus's Oppoturnity cost on all forms is not worth it

Magerena might be interesting on Hard TR but atp why not just run Mirai CIR

[dense latch]

kinda interested to see how reg j develops considering not many pros are gonna be playing the format

[knotty mirage]

I mean arceus normal seem's interesting because it doesn't need to hold any plate even tho it's pretty much just better rayquaza

[solid frigate]

problem with Arceus is just that

It basicallyy just defaults into espeed bot

Ray has a niche of Denying weather even tho the damage was worse

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-dragonite-anime-angry-rage-gif-7380119

also this guy exist

free Clear Amulet against intimidate+Choice Band

and does not waste a restricted slot

[stone trellis]

And it walls Koraidon.

And also fucking obliterates Korai.

Rayquaza would only be good in a meta where Koraidon is dominant, essentially.

[next stump]

I think it’s popularity is going to tank in a couple of weeks

[bold geode]

I see some online tournaments using the format for some tours but like low-key I think it's just engagement bait LMAO

Which like
Use H for that

I think J at the very best will only be good for like
Content farming

And even then it won't last long

[bold geode]

No
Stop that

Bad

As someone who has used it

No

[bold geode]

Rayquaza forces you to not bring one of your restricted like honestly 70% of the time

[stone trellis]

I only make the most immaculate ragebait on accident.

[bold geode]

It's like good into Koraidon and then like
That's it

[stone trellis]

Proves my point.

If Koraidon was the top dog somehow, then Rayquaza would be really good into it.

[bold geode]

Yeah but like
Even if it's the top dog, that doesn't mean it's the only dog

And like
You're basically in a situation where like
You're good into one thing but just real bad into a lot more of the field

[stone trellis]

Look, I'm not saying that Rayquaza is good.

I'm literally saying that the only way for it to be good is for its one good MU to have Incin at Worlds 2022 usage rates.

[bold geode]

That still wouldn't be enough

[stone trellis]

A world where Rayquaza was a pure physical attacker and didn't waste 70 points in Special Attack would be a good world.

[bold geode]

Maybe Mega Rayquaza would be good enough now but like
Yeah no Rayquaza wouldn't do it right cuz like here's the thing right

Let's say you're at an event and Koraidon is the #1 thing to beat

[stone trellis]

Miraidon?

[bold geode]

Let's just say Koraidon is #1 for this example right

So
What you gotta consider is others might try to beat it via other restricted too or with non restricted
So you also got a consider those different restricted as well as like
Other general restricted

So for example, oh Calyrex Ice Rider is good into Koraidon
So not only do you gotta consider Koraidon, but you have to consider peeps are using Ice Rider to beat Koraidon
Now sure, you might beat Koraidon, but the Ice Rider MU is insanely rough

[stone trellis]

I know.

[bold geode]

That's really the thing is like
Yeah sure maybe you beat one thing, but you also gotta consider that you don't only have to beat one thing

You gotta beat these other things, which makes Rayquaza just nah

[stone trellis]

A super effective, Helping Hand-boosted critical hit Earthquake from Rayquaza barely 2HKO'd my Tera Fire CIR.

[bold geode]

Especially cuz like
Deadass you gotta sacrifice either your Ice Rider or Miraidon MU if you use Rayquaza which like
That just blows ass

[stone trellis]

Especially if the opponent has both.

[bold geode]

Literally have to choose to be bad into one of two of the most popular restricted

Just to beat Koraidon

I'd rather just
Use something else

[stone trellis]

Like Icy?

[bold geode]

Like just
Really about anything

[molten oasis]

Hey

https://tenor.com/view/coryxkenshin-job-job-application-scary-gif-4602903687685965413

[bold geode]

Sir imma have to ask you not to commit hate crimes in the server

That's offensive to the unemployed

[stone trellis]

My friend Swe would've canceled you already, you filthy bigot.

[molten oasis]

But hear me out

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-having-a-job-having-no-job-jobless-job-gif-14714024496373948723

[chrome knot]

your new name was one i didn’t recognize thought it was tofu now im sad and my day is ruined

[spiral ridge]

almost having to interact with monkey is day ruiner

[dull ibex]

true

[near crag]

Is there any problem with Tera bug farig? Koraidon might be kinda awkward, but generally it seems solid to me

[bold geode]

What
You no likey me
Why not

[lofty umbra]

Is giratina playable in any team?

[buoyant marlin]

Nooby question : if you use disable on a choice scarf/band etc user does it lock him?

Same thing for Encore/Disable

[next stump]

they’ll be forced to struggle

[cyan smelt]

Yes

[buoyant marlin]

Oh

Thats nice

[stone trellis]

Yep, it forces them into struggling.

[cyan smelt]

Sa

Same thing with imprison transform

[buoyant marlin]

Yeah

[stone trellis]

Never do it into CIR, you'll end up losing half of your team's total health in three turns.

[buoyant marlin]

Was looking to build a team around locking enemy

[stone trellis]

It should be an option, not your entire strategy.

[buoyant marlin]

Too gimmicky and not viable i know

[short quiver]

i see why i havent done the keldeo quest yet in swsh

[waxen dock]

How do i claim the cp that i get from the gc's ?

[next stump]

create a pokemon trainer club account

link it to your nintendo account

then do this

[waxen dock]

So i get the points automaticly?

[next stump]

yes

[craggy dagger]

imprison transform mew

for the upcoming reg J

[short quiver]

and encore disable perish song scream tail 😃

[nocturne holly]

HELL no

I saw someone using gothitelle shadow tag

So that Mon literally becomes useless

[brave hazel]

Mimikyu is the best ghost rider killer

[buoyant marlin]

Will literally look to make a gimmick team with this

[chrome knot]

probably not😭

[short quiver]

😄

[brave hazel]

It legit is.

[chrome knot]

why

[cyan smelt]

He's a singles player, dw

[chrome knot]

right

[brave hazel]

Wins 9/10 times

Disguise absorbs astral barrage then a swords dance & a shadow sneak.

If you’re running a sash as well, that’s 2 surviving hits

I ran the statistics, caly gets OHKO by a swords dance boosted shadow sneak

[brave hazel]

Doubles boring

[foggy lodge]

What

No you can't take 2 hits with sash

[brave hazel]

Disguise

[foggy lodge]

Sash gets broken by the disguise

[brave hazel]

That’s not what the internet is saying ?

[tiny karma]

Ability: Disguise

If this Pokemon is a Mimikyu, the first hit it takes in battle deals 0 neutral damage. Its disguise is then broken, it changes to Busted Form, and it loses 1/8 of its max HP. Confusion damage also breaks the disguise.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[foggy lodge]

Oh so you didn't even test it😭

[brave hazel]

Not yet no, but according to the internet sash stays intact. I even ran it through with chat GPT as well. Interesting

[foggy lodge]

ChatGPT,,,

[brave hazel]

I’ve been using mimik to 0HKO caly tho & chat gpt pretty smart at times it takes all its information from the main battle websites & strats

[foggy lodge]

Its not even worth it to discuss so have a good time one shotting Calyrexes ig

[solid frigate]

Are we going this low into ChatGPT-

[brave hazel]

ChatGPT goated

[short quiver]

pregen 8 disguise didnt break sash that could be where the source is from but that was 6 years ago

[brave hazel]

Possibly

[short quiver]

as of swsh disguise was nerfed

it breaks sash so that item doesnt work on mimikyu

and the only way your mimikyu is defeating csr 9/10 is in singles that would not work in doubles

[foggy lodge]

^ apart from darkshifu doing all of that and better

[short quiver]

does neutralizing gas shut down unseen fist?

[solid frigate]

Nah it still kills just

CSR can have Sash as well and we have second mon to deal with The Pokémon

[short quiver]

ik there are abilities it doesnt work on

[foggy lodge]

Yes

Weezing is the only mon who can protect in front of Urshifu lol

[short quiver]

but then its not mimikyu killing it

[foggy lodge]

Well its partners too

[short quiver]

or another pokemon that took its ability

[solid frigate]

Exactly

https://tenor.com/view/urshifu-rapid-strike-surging-strike-pokemon-tower-of-waters-gif-23032736

Just use this guy

[short quiver]

i wanna use a mono dragon team. id do fairy if i had access to anyone restricted in reg J besides diancie

but i unfortunately do not have a magearna

[red willow]

Dont we just wish that one steel grass guy was in the game

Ferrothorn

[short quiver]

why would i want ferrothorn

[red willow]

Everyone needs him hes a cool guy

[short quiver]

i need Carnivine but can i get my wish

[red willow]

Yes

[short quiver]

carnivine is in SV?

[red willow]

Not in reality but I want your wish to come true

[short quiver]

free my boy he did no wrong

[jade dust]

Besides being useless

[foggy lodge]

Levitate grass type🥀

[foggy lodge]

Ferrothorn would have helped so much in this meta

Can hit CIR, tank Miraidon, koraidon takes like 3000 billion damage from flare blitz into it, Urshifu would be more threatened, Ursaluna would be scared of it

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 598: Ferrothorn

Types

Grass/Steel

Abilities

Iron Barbs, Anticipation (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

74/94/131/54/116/20

Total

489

Sableye version 4.28.2

[solid frigate]

Man it would just help so much against what we have

[foggy lodge]

It would be used

And has a niche into the meta

[solid frigate]

Even as a niche it’s still a strong Niche

[foggy lodge]

Mhm

And it would be a good steel type this format doesn't have steel types

We have Iron Treads Zamazenta and Zacian

[solid frigate]

Only one is a tank-

[jade dust]

And Zama players are cringe

[solid frigate]

How much does Gyro Ball do to Tera Fairy Miraidon

[short quiver]

tera electric

free my boy

[cyan smelt]

let's hope it's in champions

[solid frigate]

@bold geode

[foggy lodge]

Gholdengo Heatran and Archaludon lost the viabilty in this format

Kingambit too

[short quiver]

i do not tolerate pipebomb slander

[solid frigate]

And we don’t talk about Bronzong cuz bros only good when Xern exists

[foggy lodge]

Well Gholdengo MAYBE has a niche

[short quiver]

(archaludon, i named mine pipebomb)

[foggy lodge]

But its just a maybe

Maybe someone crazy enough will unlock Gholdengo's power

[solid frigate]

Compare to Ferro’s niche

It’s really small

[foggy lodge]

Rain Ferrothorn in reg H

[solid frigate]

Yeah Kyogre would love Ferro’s existence on its teams

[short quiver]

and would hate it not on its team

[cyan smelt]

could it tank landorus

[foggy lodge]

Yes

It's not weak to ground lol

Its weak to only fighting X2 and fire X4

[short quiver]

grass is a pretty good second type for a steel type i must say

[foggy lodge]

Fs

[jade dust]

I’m pretty sure close combat or collision course both are enough to OHKO it

[short quiver]

also fairy is a good type for a steel type

[jade dust]

Grass is bad defensively but really good pair with steel. Unlike ice/steel and rock/steel

Those 2 are a disaster

[foggy lodge]

252+ Atk Urshifu Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 100+ Def Ferrothorn: 152-180 (83.9 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

You need this to take close combat

[cyan smelt]

what about a low kick from iron hands

[short quiver]

steel resists most of the types grass is afraid of

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 598: Ferrothorn

Types

Grass/Steel

Abilities

Iron Barbs, Anticipation (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

74/94/131/54/116/20

Total

489

Weight (Low Kick BP)

110kg (100 BP)

Height

1m

Introduced

Generation 5

Pre-evolution

Ferroseed

Egg groups

Grass, Mineral

Gender Ratio

M: 50%, F: 50%

Color

Gray

Sableye version 4.28.2

[short quiver]

bulky boi

[jade dust]

I’m talking about Koraidon

[foggy lodge]

180+ Atk Iron Hands Low Kick (100 BP) vs. 252 HP / 100+ Def Ferrothorn: 128-152 (70.7 - 83.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[foggy lodge]

Ah yeah it kills

But like you never bring Ferrothorn into Koraidon anyways unless you tera it lol

[jade dust]

Doesn’t need to flare blitz

[foggy lodge]

Life orb flare blitz koraidon deals like 72% damage recoil to Koraidon

[short quiver]

on top of the iron barb from ferrothorns ability?

[jade dust]

Unless you bait a flare blitz and switch in ferro while holding rocky helmet

[foggy lodge]

Factoring life orb + flare blitz recoil + iron barbs + rocky helmet

[jade dust]

But gotta guess right where the flare blitz is hitting

[foggy lodge]

Rocky helmet wouldn't be good anyways I think you run lefties leech seed

[short quiver]

that would be devastating recoil 😭

[foggy lodge]

Its still like +50% without rocky helmet it just gets deleted

I remember watching Wolfey get caught by rocky helmet Incin switching into flare blitz and taking like 40% recoil

[cyan smelt]

wth i love ferrothorn now

[foggy lodge]

Dexit was one of the worst things that could happen

Celesteela would also have been an incredible mon

[jade dust]

The tapuz too

[short quiver]

huh?

[foggy lodge]

Wide guard + lefties+ walls some mons

[jade dust]

Before Miraidon was legal, tapu koko can enable future paradox

[short quiver]

and the aura trio 😔 but they would be so broken with the tera mechanic

[foggy lodge]

Tapu Koko + paradox would have gone crazy in reg F

[cyan smelt]

celesteela would wall caly ice

[foggy lodge]

And outheal it

[jade dust]

Nah fuck Xerneas

[cyan smelt]

walls landorus too

[jade dust]

Bring Yveltal and Zygard but leave Xerneas out

[short quiver]

xerneas with tera fairy would be so stupid

[jade dust]

Or tera fire

[cyan smelt]

at least smeargle can't learn dark void anymore

[short quiver]

game would literally just be unplayable 🥀

[jade dust]

And tera blast

I still want Smeargle to be deleted from the game files permanently

And never come back

Kill them all till they go extinct

[short quiver]

lmao

next reg we’ll probably be terrorized by Mew instead of smeargle

[jade dust]

If you mean the transform imprison, a taunt ruins their coward plan

[short quiver]

tera dark for prankster mons and idk after that

[woven pelican]

"it's too dangerous out there, take this with you"

damn that doesn't look funny on mobile gimme a sec

[short quiver]

im debating if i wanna use jirachi diancie or mew in reg j

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/Hoej_Hs/status/1955728802396442949

Frederik Høj Nielsen (@Hoej_Hs)

Good luck to everyone competing in the World Championships this weekend. Me and my Iron Bundle will crush you. 🐧

X · Aug 13, 2025, 8:30 PM

[molten oasis]

He’s taking mid bundle? lol

[foggy lodge]

The Nielsens have been on Bundle a long time

Both a whole zoo on their teams lol

Miraidon Ursaluna Iron Bundle Zamazenta Sneasler and Farigiraf

[molten oasis]

lol

[foggy lodge]

Idk what Sneasler is

[molten oasis]

Maybe bundle isn’t that bad

[foggy lodge]

They have a lizard a bear a penguin a wolf and a giraffe

[foggy lodge]

Its fine

It does what it has to do

[molten oasis]

Yeah fair

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/running-penguin-gif-17179030256836666962

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/BTrickroomZ/status/1955803756727296373

ビッチィ【Yuta Ishigaki】 (@BTrickroomZ)

I left for Anaheim.
I can't wait to see you everyone!!

X · Aug 14, 2025, 1:28 AM

[strange fjord]

who's heading over to anaheim? see yall there

[waxen dock]

When do they announce worlds 2027 locatoion?

[foggy lodge]

Probably this sunday at the end

If not until the next worlds

[cyan smelt]

will there be any plza news from worlds

[solid frigate]

Didn’t we have that info

When we saw 2024 worlds

[waxen dock]

We have 2026 woelds

[foggy lodge]

They are asking about 2027

[waxen dock]

So did they announce worlds 2025 after the worlds in yokohama too?

[foggy lodge]

Nope

It was weird because they announced worlds 2025 and 2026 last year

Maybe they are announcing worlds with more anticipation now

[next stump]

we normally only know one year in advance

the only reason we knew 2026 worlds was because it was leaked on the convention center’s website so they confirmed it

[waxen dock]

I hope it will be in europe

[next stump]

there’s a good chance, I think they’re going to be done with america for at least a year

it’s cheap to host here but lots of problems

[foggy lodge]

Worlds in latam🙏

[waxen dock]

I have a mond game like suckerpunch thunderclap but its related to worlds

Mind

If i go in 2026 to worlds but worlds is again in 2027 i lose because i can only go somewhere far once

But if its in america in 2027 and i dont go in 2026 i win

[next stump]

that would be very fun, probably very hot though hahaha

depends where

[waxen dock]

Lets say i qualify for worlds in both ahould i go in 2026 or not go

[solid frigate]

or cold if its in South America lol

[next stump]

definitely attend worlds if you qualify and can afford the cost

it’s the coolest experience you can have as a VGC player

I’d say on a scale of 1-10, Regionals are like a 3-5 depending on the location and host, Internationals are like 6-8, and Worlds is a 10

[dull ibex]

is miraidon zacian a thing?

that feels pretty hyper offense

[molten oasis]

yes, would you like my team?

https://pokepast.es/9267b2ec867dca67

[solid frigate]

i was gonna ping drago about that lmao

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/e340245876d5ab9b

this is what im messing around with

if it looks like my zac kyogre team retooled

it is

[dull ibex]

I CAN RUN PARABOLIC CHARGE

[molten oasis]

ability shield? wut

[dull ibex]

reg j version

if you are still questioning it

its for arceus weezing

[molten oasis]

is that actually a thing?

[short quiver]

it probably will be

[dull ibex]

it will be

[molten oasis]

are you sure?

[dull ibex]

yes why wouldn't it be

[molten oasis]

idk

[waxen dock]

Of course

A lot kf people use it on koraidon calyrex teams

Because there is no intimidate you dont need ca

[dull ibex]

think about it

[molten oasis]

before i do

you're plaing zacian, zacian should not care about espeed

[forest arrow]

Fire type judgement

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/shatap-gif-24359594

[cyan smelt]

beat a smeargle muk team, always satisfying

[stone trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/gojo-eyes-gif-13524269330265871258

"The world is so beautiful right now" ahh feeling 😭

[dapper crag]

I need to fight someone

[knotty mirage]

Anyone ever considered using diancie on reg J ?

[brave hazel]

So quick claw now has a 100% work rate

Interesting. everytime I go against it, it always goes off. anytime I used it in the past. Had to be lucky

[chrome knot]

on some funny shit

[foggy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/porygon-gif-7622220

Porygon is so good and fun

A well played P2 never dies

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/music-porygon-gif-11741000

[cyan smelt]

p2 sure is annoying

i need to play some reg h

[chrome knot]

my goat will be coming to milwaukee with me

[bold geode]

[chrome knot]

gm

[bold geode]

Girl I'm so fucking tired

I have to drop my dog off at the vet

[cyan smelt]

Hi monke

[buoyant marlin]

Wheres a good place to get some meta rental teams? So i can learn how these team play and adjust mine

[cyan smelt]

My reg J team is feeling really strong

[foggy lodge]

Check the VGC repository

There's a direct link in Pokémon showdow to it and its an excel with rentals/pokepastes

[nocturne holly]

What is it

[cyan smelt]

Pecharunt, miraidon, farig, ursaluna, durshifu, incin

[nocturne holly]

Pecharunt 🥀💔✌️

jk what does it do

[cyan smelt]

Spreads status and is generally hard to remove

[stone trellis]

Make Groudon players want to tear their skin off.

You have a 50% chance of not moving at all and then another 15% chance of flat-out missing Pecharunt.

[cyan smelt]

Haven't come up against too many Darkrai sableye teams, gonna have to figure out what I do against that

[stone trellis]

Kalostest, start bringing Mirai twinnnnn

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-angel-gif-4351457

[cyan smelt]

Yeah but then they have rilla

[stone trellis]

Don't lead Rilla.

They expect you to lead it, so don't.

I won a game against a Kyogre-CIR team that had Indeedee by doing just that.

I led CIR + Urshifu and used U-turn into Kyogre to bring Miraidon in.

[cyan smelt]

Switching in miraidon?

Oh right

[stone trellis]

Yeah, just pivot the motherfucker.

[cyan smelt]

I'll lead farig ursaluna into Darkrai sableye, protect t1

[stone trellis]

Also, Chesto Berry Farig + Choice Scarf Urshifu kinda annihilates this strat.

[stone trellis]

Great idea.

[cyan smelt]

They can't encore the ursaluna slot

[stone trellis]

Go Protect + Foul Play into Darkrai to break the Focus Sash or Trick Room if you don't think they'll click Taunt with Darkrai.

[cyan smelt]

Miraidon is severely broken

[stone trellis]

Yeah.

Oh, speaking of Miraidon, I made a whole tier list of every restricted based on how many tournaments they've won in Regulations G and I.

I used the results for the 1st place finish of every tournament in the Masters Division on LimitlessVGC.

[cyan smelt]

Miraidon would have to be close to the top

[stone trellis]

Miraidon is at the top.

[stone trellis]

CSR glazers when Icy has won two more tournaments than it in S/V and made it to Worlds finals (its best place in Worlds 2024 was 10th):

[cyan smelt]

Idk why people still use csr

[chrome knot]

consistent

also big balance piece so its just familiar to play

[cyan smelt]

Ig it has pretty good staying power Too with calm mind draining kiss

[chrome knot]

no not that

[foggy lodge]

Turns out being 150 speed with snowball ability and broken spread stab move makes you good😱

[cyan smelt]

True

[nocturne holly]

Has Tera been confirmed for champions

If not I’m gonna miss it 🙁

[cyan smelt]

Tera was shown in the trailer wasn't it

[woven pelican]

tera and mega was shown

[nocturne holly]

Tera is the best gimmick

[short quiver]

imagine tera and mega together

[stone trellis]

Go! Tera Normal Mega Rayquaza!

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/VGCVictoryRoab/status/1955668172691906951

Victory Roab VGC (@VGCVictoryRoab)

Many top vgc players are reportedly having severe flight issues in the lead up to the 2025 Pokemon World Championship.

Sources claim this could be the work of known Voodoo witch man Juan "@JuanfiVGC" Salerno

Witnesses claim to have seen Salerno in Buenos Aires with a

X · Aug 13, 2025, 4:30 PM

[buoyant marlin]

Just got to MB tier after 4 days of learning VGC. It's really less intimidating than i expected for a new player. Even if i make lots of mistake i feel like its really easy to learn and adapt. Excited to continue the grind

[next stump]

🙂 that’s awesome to hear

it really is a great game, always something to improve at

Getting to master ball is such a good feeling in the beginning of a VGC career

[buoyant marlin]

Do people play Brave CIR with 0 spe IV for trick room setup?

[next stump]

You definitely can, but you don’t have to

You’ll speed tie stuff like Iron Hands and Ursaluna

[bold geode]

Cuz it's one of the best restricted if not the best

[bold geode]

Cough cough bigger target cough cough

[stone trellis]

I feel like the presumed superiority should at least balance out the fact that it's a big target.

Jesus Christ, Worlds starts at 6 PM tomorrow.

?

[woven pelican]

he's trying to gen a pokemon, we don't have those bots here so i'll just report it

[stone trellis]

Oh.

Why would you even gen an Arceus with the Hearthflame Mask?

It doesn't do shit.

[woven pelican]

look man idk these people generate anything even if it's stupid

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2421510922-6rriymtbehx9ega6jxo6h5a9ei4j9ocpw

are there safer lines into this ? @bold geode

[bold geode]

I think the 4 you brought was fine but like there on the turn Ursaluna swapped in
Low-key I think you could've Spored that slot

Cleave the Torkoal there and Spore the Indeedee slot and like literally even if they don't swap in Ursaluna there the only thing that like even puts you in trouble is if both mons get the 1 turn wakeup

[chrome knot]

TY

[bold geode]

👍

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regh-2421515326-m6j9iht3ubhxm4tj3an1r0ef9gwned6pw

i think im just her tbhhhh

bwehhhh

[chrome knot]

should dnite stay haze scale shot stomping protect

ive been on the fence as idrk what i want dnite to do, but has felt so incredibly strong doing it

[bold geode]

I think Haze is good

Stomping isn't too bad either
Don't get walled by Gholdengo

Odd question though
How well do you do into Corv?

[chrome knot]

just fine

i played into it yday, came down to a few calls but

p2 gets there eventually with flying gambit

[bold geode]

Yeah
Corviknight I feel will be one of the sneaky guys

[crimson vector]

Any suggestions? Tera dark if for ghost resistance and psycic immunity

[chrome knot]

your csr is specs with 2 status moves

[stone trellis]

We're not in Reg G anymore.

Where's the second restricted?

[crimson vector]

I thought ogerpon was on the list

[crimson vector]

I overlooked that

[crimson vector]

But im being beaten by calyrex shadow every time i play against it

[stone trellis]

The restricted legendaries are: Mewtwo, Lugia, Ho-oh, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Reshiram, Zekrom, Kyurem, Cosmog, Cosmoem, Solgaleo, Lunala, Necrozma, Zacian, Zamazenta, Eternatus, Calyrex, Koraidon, Miraidon and Terapagos.

[stone trellis]

Zamazenta deals with it pretty well.

Wide Guard blocks Astral Barrage and it takes Psychic like a true royal shield.

[solid frigate]

I’m gonna just lurk in the walls

[crimson vector]

I dont have an zamazenta and who should i replace for a zamazenta if i do get one via pkm home

I would guess i should replace ogerpon then

[stone trellis]

Why do you use Ceruledge?

[crimson vector]

I wanted another sweeper

This guy turns out to be useless afther i used it twice

[stone trellis]

So you could always replace it with Zamazenta.

And why specifically Wellspring Ogerpon?

Wouldn't it be better if you had Hearthflame instead?

[crimson vector]

I probably will because cerludge is too frail to do one move

[crimson vector]

Oh i dont know which version is better so i just went with water

[stone trellis]

Hearthflame has won the World Championships.

Wellspring hasn't.

[solid frigate]

its more towards

how much do you want

Utility from Wellspring or Hearthflame's damage

[round abyss]

sd arceus lowk good

it struggles against zama

[solid frigate]

every normal type be like:

[round abyss]

type shi

[mighty stump]

Snorlax beats Zama

ezpz

[foggy lodge]

Guys what version of Miraidon or CSR do y'all think will win worlds

A lot of people have been playing the Kobayashi team but just putting scarf on Mirai ClAm on CIR and sash on shifu

[foggy lodge]

+6 252+ Atk Snorlax High Horsepower vs. +1 100 HP / 156+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned: 172-204 (95.5 - 113.3%) -- 75% chance to OHKO goat

[solid frigate]

tru

[chrome knot]

TOFU

@mighty stump come backkkk haiiii

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/glitchy_potat/status/1955991683209839100

glitchyVGC (@glitchy_potat)

so judging by my Twitter feed does literally everyone at worlds just not have a team and didn’t prepare 💀

X · Aug 14, 2025, 1:55 PM

We will have our first random battles world championship ever

[solid frigate]

it would be funny asf

[bold geode]

No plz

[nocturne holly]

Is worlds gonna be on yt

Or just twitch

[forest arrow]

Usually both

[dull ibex]

Holy crap it's tofu

[molten oasis]

the man, the myth, the legend

[dull ibex]

Monke I think I figured my next restricted duo

Mirai lunala

[bold geode]

👍

[dull ibex]

I'm done with wind waker which means I'll probably put more time into vgc now

[short quiver]

did i just hear legends of zelda mention

[dull ibex]

Yes

I just beat wind waker yesterday

[short quiver]

“you’re my friend now, we’re getting soft tacos later!”

[short quiver]

im in the middle of playing through twilight princess

[dull ibex]

I have to wait til its on nintendo classics

[short quiver]

uhhhhhhh m playing it on my computer

[dull ibex]

I played wind waker legally on my switch 2

[short quiver]

im gonna play The Adventures of Link on my seitch

and then the other first gen zelda games

[dull ibex]

zelda 2 gross

[short quiver]

I’m considering playing through all of the games in order

story order not chronological

[dull ibex]

zelda 1 and 2 suck imo

[short quiver]

theyre at the end of the timeline so it will be a while before i get to them

[solid frigate]

the best i can say is that they didn't age well

[dull ibex]

link to the past foward is worth playing though

[solid frigate]

i'm just a Link Between worlds and skyward sword fan

[short quiver]

yall never played botw

true peak

[solid frigate]

i literally have both BOTW and TOTK

[short quiver]

totk is mid

botw is peak

[dull ibex]

woah

totk is the best zelda game

[short quiver]

cap

totk is mid

[dull ibex]

only if you have bad taste

[short quiver]

it rewrited the entire story of the zelda games

botw is way better

[dull ibex]

so did botw

botw made its own timeline and retconned the timelines

[short quiver]

it reconnected all 3 timelines

its peak

[dull ibex]

ok and totk expanded on that

being a direct sequel

[short quiver]

midtk

[solid frigate]

i'm not gonna say anything about cuz i am advocate for both games

[dull ibex]

so am i

I would encourage people to play both if they have the money

[short quiver]

i have bith

ive played both ive 100% both

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/dap-dap-up-bully-maguire-spiderman-homem-aranha-gif-2038310814613101264

[dull ibex]

I sold my copy of botw

[short quiver]

😨

[dull ibex]

what? I was never going to play it again

I beat it twice

once on master mode 🙂

[short quiver]

😔

bro discarded peak a king has lost his crown

[dull ibex]

I still have peak

[short quiver]

if its not twilight princess youre lying to me

[dull ibex]

I do have a wii 🤔

maybe i should just buy tp on wii

[short quiver]

absolute crayon

[dull ibex]

what?

[short quiver]

absolute crayon

[dull ibex]

I dont get it

[short quiver]

it means absolute cinema

but sillier

[dull ibex]

scarvio has been weird in 60 fps

[short quiver]

hm?

[dull ibex]

ive been playing violet in 60 fps

[stone trellis]

He's playing on the Switch 2.

It feels weird to play at 30 FPS too.

Normally it drops to around 24 for me.

[short quiver]

why are you playing on the switch 2 if its only 60 fps 😭

[dull ibex]

What

[short quiver]

did i misunderstand

[dull ibex]

its only below 30 on switch

so 60 is double the framerate

why would i not play with double the framerate

[round abyss]

are any of yall playing reg j

[next stump]

worlds bag is so fire

[dull ibex]

I'm going to be laddering on it

[round abyss]

what r u playing

[round abyss]

this is heat bro

[dull ibex]

Rn regulation I

[chrome knot]

take a bite out of it

[next stump]

https://tenor.com/view/winnie-the-pooh-hungry-yummy-nom-nom-hangry-gif-14955634131026949607

[round abyss]

nah like what restricteds

[dull ibex]

Kyogre Zacian and Mirai lunala

[round abyss]

is sd zac viable

or is tera blast better

[short quiver]

me

[bold geode]

Pog

[bold geode]

Bite the Pikachu head off specifically
Like an animal cracker

[round abyss]

what restricteds u playin g

[short quiver]

im thinking kyogre mew

not sure yet

id play keldeo if i had one

[lean ridge]

I can’t believe they gave keldeo justified and 72 base attack

It’s one of my favourite mythicals but it basically doesn’t have an ability in battle

[short quiver]

well, if I had one, I’d be using it in the rain so there’s that boost too

[lean ridge]

Yea that would definitely help with damage, the move set on it isn’t great either though

[short quiver]

I don’t care hes a cool little horse

id use verizion but one hurricane and its joever

and its not even restricted anyways

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 647: Keldeo

Types

Water/Fighting

Abilities

Justified

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

91/72/90/129/90/108

Total

580

Other Formes

Keldeo-Resolute

Sableye version 4.28.2

[lean ridge]

Ooooo

[tiny karma]

Keldeo's moveset:

Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Aqua Jet, Aqua Tail, Bounce, Brick Break, Close Combat, Covet, Cut, Double Kick, Double-Edge, Endeavor, Facade, False Swipe, Flip Turn, Frustration, Giga Impact, Last Resort, Liquidation, Low Kick, Megahorn, Poison Jab, Retaliate, Return, Revenge, Reversal, Rock Smash, Sacred Sword, Secret Power, Smart Strike, Stone Edge, Strength, Superpower, Take Down, Trailblaze, Upper Hand, X-Scissor

Special Moves

Air Slash, Aura Sphere, Bubble Beam, Chilling Water, Focus Blast, Hidden Power, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Icy Wind, Muddy Water, Round, Scald, Secret Sword, Snore, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Vacuum Wave, Water Pulse

Status Moves

Baton Pass, Calm Mind, Coaching, Confide, Double Team, Endure, Hail, Helping Hand, Leer, Pain Split, Protect, Psych Up, Quick Guard, Rain Dance, Reflect, Rest, Roar, Safeguard, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swords Dance, Taunt, Toxic, Work Up

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Keldeo.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[lean ridge]

You could skill swap serene grace onto keldeo and then just spam muddy water as a funny gimmick

[short quiver]

where am i getting serene grace from

[round abyss]

its lowk bulky

[lean ridge]

Jirachi or chansey

[round abyss]

u could use it for support ig but not worth the restricted slot

[short quiver]

or togekiss

[lean ridge]

Jirachi would require using both ur restricteds for a gimmick tho 😭

[short quiver]

uhhhh both its def stats are 90

[round abyss]

thats decent

[lean ridge]

Unfortunately not in SV but future games it’s probably the best option

[short quiver]

its spA is really good

and its pretty fast

only problem is i dont have a keldeo 😔

[short quiver]

although imagine JUSTIFIED JIRACHI

that sounds actually quite funny

Serene Grace Keldeo Justified Jirachi

if only i HAD a keldeo

but im not spending 3 hours in the crown tundra looking for foot prints

[lean ridge]

Valid

[short quiver]

so no keldeo for me

unless one of my friends had one

which i doubt sincerely

[dull ibex]

what 4 is my tr mode and what 4 is my tw mode
https://pokepast.es/71e3db4590277b4c

[dense latch]

bottom 4 are tr
ursh lunala miraidon whim tw

[dull ibex]

gotcha

[dense latch]

your team preview shouldn't boil down to just those two modes though

[dull ibex]

I like linear leads

hard tw and tr

[lofty tartan]

Gonna have to cook some more on my Pittsburgh team this weekend 👀

[foggy lodge]

Jolly ursh is a fraud

[dense latch]

there's more than enough regional/international gameplay for you to find gameplans out of

[foggy lodge]

Go adamant always

[dense latch]

o yea what are these spreads

[lofty tartan]

Especially where that's Frederico Campo's NAIC team

[dense latch]

miraidon is arguably the only pokemon you should be 252/252ing

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/629ebca4cc64e829

[lofty tartan]

Ability: Intimidate  
Tera Type: Bug  
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD  
Adamant Nature  
- U-turn  
- Knock Off  
- Flare Blitz  
- Fake Out  

[dull ibex]

heres a better constructed team

[lofty tartan]

What is this? A hotel for ants?

[chrome knot]

mika mika mika

[foggy lodge]

And I'm pretty sure they still ran some bulk on the Mirai for light screen boost

[lofty tartan]

Yo yo yo

[chrome knot]

i 15-2 on regh with my beloved p2

[dense latch]

if you want to be a super nerd you can watch fede campo's stream games and see the pokemon's hp

[chrome knot]

AND ive done sm self care today that i have 0 insecurities left

[lofty tartan]

I've definitely been considering P2 for Pitt. He improves several matchups by just existing.

[dense latch]

then you can get a closer guess as to what the spreads are

[bold geode]

What's this cursed set

[dull ibex]

I am just going to stick to swordfish and learn gameplans on that

[chrome knot]

want my team for pitts?

[foggy lodge]

The Ursaluna has physical bulk

[dense latch]

adamant incin is cool but 252 is overboard

[foggy lodge]

Is all I know from that spread

[dense latch]

8 evs is wasting evs too

[lofty tartan]

Yeah you can shoot it over in dm

[chrome knot]

okie ill send

[dull ibex]

I clicked suggested spreads on showdown

[lofty tartan]

I mean at this point with Vest I'd probably just say max speed Jolly and take it from there

But I'm a big fan of max speed Jolly Incin

[dense latch]

it's a cool spread