competitive_discussion

[rustic mountain]

https://sg.portal-pokemon.com/play/resources/pokedex/img/pm/d7d457cb1d0f7fe0ac881370d0ed4bb3c4f9a1fd.png

peak

[shadow wind]

Now that’s a bad design

[jade dust]

I love Snorlax if thats something

[jade dust]

And Iron Hands

Both fat fucks

[shadow wind]

Tree we have every different tastes in Megas

[molten oasis]

ok thats fine

but like, i like my cool sleek designed gundam

[lofty tartan]

It's thick

[rustic mountain]

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd.it%2Fwho-was-right-v0-kmp3je2yxq8a1.png%3Fwidth%3D320%26crop%3Dsmart%26auto%3Dwebp%26s%3D2c6c348da424a685cc85e2343c7f210a76fd1c60

[shadow wind]

Time to think of a Mega I think we can agree on

[shadow wind]

Was literally thinking this

[molten oasis]

thats so accurate

[shadow wind]

Mega Ampharos

[rustic mountain]

frfr lol

[shadow wind]

Peak or Garbage

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani/ampharos-mega.gif

[lofty tartan]

Nah, friendship ended. You can go to hell.

[rustic mountain]

bad

[shadow wind]

I didn’t even say an opinion

[molten oasis]

kinda wish they did a little more with it

[lofty tartan]

Mega Ttar sucks

[shadow wind]

I brought him up that’s all

Well I personally like Mega Ampharos

[molten oasis]

what other megas exist

[lofty tartan]

No

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 303: Mawile-Mega

Types

Steel/Fairy

Abilities

Huge Power

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

50/105/125/55/95/50

Total

480

Base Species

Mawile

Sableye version 4.28.2

[rustic mountain]

mega ampharos looks like it trying to do an anime cosplay

[forest arrow]

I like mega Mawile

[lofty tartan]

Lmfao

Poor Mawile

I mean Huge Power is cool

[shadow wind]

50 speed 🥀

[lofty tartan]

But 50hp 50speed is sweatin

[forest arrow]

Yeah fs, design wise I like it a lot

[rustic mountain]

i think mega mawile was one of the good megas

[lofty tartan]

My kid is so desperately excited for Mawile

[shadow wind]

Tree, I think I found the mega we can agree on

Mega Zard X

[molten oasis]

yes

[forest arrow]

Mega Banette looks cool too

[lofty tartan]

Yeah? See I don't know how any of the Megas shook down. I've never gotten to play Mawile in anything except for mainline games.

[molten oasis]

i think it has potential in a mega format with like, fari and BM

[lofty tartan]

So I haven't looked into move sets on Mawile for sure

[rustic mountain]

good design

[shadow wind]

I did indeed find it

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani/lucario-mega.gif

[lofty tartan]

I've played plenty of low stat bricks in VGC so far though, so stats aren't everything

[forest arrow]

Lucarios is simple and sweet

[lofty tartan]

It's just that absolute anime design and it fits

Also spikes

[shadow wind]

Lucario is just Lucario but slightly cooler

[rustic mountain]

yea just from watching vids/hearing older vgc players talk about mega formats i remember seeing ppl had done well w/ it and referred to it a bunch

idt it was like dominant but it was good

[shadow wind]

And I don’t like OG Lucario very much

[forest arrow]

It was there for sure I think I remember it too

[lofty tartan]

I haven't watched too many videos that included megas where they weren't busy screaming when Origin Groudon switched in and Z-moves firing off

I looked into it earlier in my VGC career when it was objectively more chaotic

[forest arrow]

That’s when Shady P was a commentator

[jade dust]

Mega Lucario looks more like steel

Idk why regular is steel

Wtf

[stone trellis]

Unbreakable resolve, maybe?

[forest arrow]

The spikes

Duh

[lofty tartan]

Mega evolution takes everything about a pokemon and amplifies it, so it makes sense why the Mega looks more appropriately themed

[jade dust]

They dont really standout enough to say "Im made out of steel"

[rustic mountain]

dude if mega shiny dnite is blue imma b hyped

[forest arrow]

That’s literally what I said tree

I’m excited to see it

[stone trellis]

Yeah, I hope it's blue.

[lofty tartan]

OR if it's Dragonair's shiny version

[rustic mountain]

thatd b cool too

[shadow wind]

Anyway I’m going to bed, Mega Ttar is peak, Mega Sceptile is Garbonzo and I’ll die on those hills

[forest arrow]

If keeps the gold pearl and pink body that’d be awesome too

[lofty tartan]

If they do neither, it's a lost opportunity

[forest arrow]

knowing TPCI they’ll just keep it green with purple wings

[rustic mountain]

weird hill to die on

[rustic mountain]

if its that ill know who to blame

[lofty tartan]

Oh for sure

[molten oasis]

do we like mega dntie?

[lofty tartan]

I do.

[rustic mountain]

yes

[forest arrow]

I love it

The hate is so forced

[rustic mountain]

if ur a tru dnite fan, ull love the mega

[lofty tartan]

Idc what other people say. I like what I like

That big doofy dragon is always gonna be great

[molten oasis]

i think its fun

[forest arrow]

All the “mock up drawing” of potential megas people brought up and they all just have to much going on

[rustic mountain]

dnite is goofy, they made it goofier w/o doing too much

and also majestic

[lofty tartan]

And it's still a beast

[forest arrow]

And that’s exactly what makes it dnite

[molten oasis]

I think i'll be running mega dnite in za

[forest arrow]

Now give us aerialate Espeed

[lofty tartan]

The entry they wrote up for it is pretty 🔥

It does you a kindness by finishing you fast

[rustic mountain]

yea lol

[spiral ridge]

Dnite I always loved cus I imagined it had a beer belly and I find that silly

[atomic mural]

ayo

[spiral ridge]

The mega is cute

[forest arrow]

And like on the anime it’s a total goober all the time, Dnite is not meant to look serious

[spiral ridge]

That’s haxorus job

[forest arrow]

They did an amazing job with it and I’m excited to see the others

[molten oasis]

mega dnite is fire

[forest arrow]

Mostly my boy feraligatr

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-haxorus-outrage-uses-super-saiyan-dragon-gif-26853869

I love haxorus

[lofty tartan]

Give it Armor Tail. I swear to GOd

[forest arrow]

All the homies love Haxorus it’s a shame they didn’t just make it a suedo…

[spiral ridge]

It’s not?

What’s that gen’s pseudo again then

[forest arrow]

No

Hydriegon

[spiral ridge]

Oh yea
That

Mannnnnnnnnnnnn

[forest arrow]

Can’t wait to see what it gets 🥹

[spiral ridge]

Hydreigon I’ve always found kinda goofy looking ngl but I like it

[lofty tartan]

We love Hydreigon and Jugs here

[spiral ridge]

Fr

[forest arrow]

Yeah I agree, Haxorus was the one on my team, Hydrei cool tho

[spiral ridge]

Especially jugs that thing is goated

[lofty tartan]

Dark/Flying is very good

[spiral ridge]

Kyo jug go brrr

Yeahh

Only thing is flutter just shits on it

Alrighty gn folks

https://tenor.com/view/incineroar-pokemon-intimidate-fake-out-parting-shot-gif-12147142405669202144

[forest arrow]

Goodnight!

[stone trellis]

Give him Strong Jaw.

[stone trellis]

I got a Lunala with 1 Attack IV first try.

https://tenor.com/view/lbj-gif-13596181858079823880

[lean falcon]

does someone have a rental team with pecharunt for vgc? wanna try it a bit before reg j, would appreciate it 😄

[stone trellis]

@cyan smelt

[cyan smelt]

My team has had mixed results

Like it's decent but maybe you could improve it @lean falcon

[stone trellis]

Yeah, but do you have a rental?

[cyan smelt]

No rental, just a pokepaste

[stone trellis]

Aight.

Send it here and I'll try making it in game.

[lean falcon]

Would help also if Can See it

[cyan smelt]

I'm not at home atm so will need to get home

Just watch out because I've seen Arceus running shadow claw now

[stone trellis]

Who is Pech's partner?

Cause if it's Zamazenta, Arceus is cooked.

Man's getting cracked in half like a fucking omelet 😭

[cyan smelt]

It's usually farig or ghost tera ursaluna because I'm running it in tr

[stone trellis]

Cool, but who is the other restricted, Kalos?

[cyan smelt]

Oh miraidon

[stone trellis]

I wonder...

[cyan smelt]

I was originally running electric seed farig but I'm open to changing it

[stone trellis]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 200 HP / 0 SpD Arceus in Electric Terrain: 214-253 (97.2 - 115%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

Goddamn.

They really have to do the CIR thing all over again.

[cyan smelt]

How about scarf

[stone trellis]

Scarf hits like a wet pool noodle compared to Specs.

252 SpA Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 200 HP / 0 SpD Arceus in Electric Terrain: 130-154 (59 - 70%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 SpA Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 200 HP / 0 SpD Arceus in Electric Terrain: 130-154 (59 - 70%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[cyan smelt]

Do you think I should run specs instead

[stone trellis]

(I know Arceus' HP EVs aren't optimal, shut the fuck up)

[stone trellis]

Yeah.

[cyan smelt]

Only issue with specs is scarf annihilape

[stone trellis]

Oh, wait.

Just use Scarf with Helping Hand on Farig.

If they lead Ape, you have your solution right there.

[cyan smelt]

I remember my evs weren't optimal on pecharunt

Probably need to calc it to live a glacial lance

[stone trellis]

36+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Glacial Lance vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Pecharunt: 58-69 (29.7 - 35.3%) -- 16.2% chance to 3HKO

You already live that shit.

Hell, you can live +4.

[cyan smelt]

It's probably not living many special attacks

[stone trellis]

Yeah, Psychic from CSR OHKOs it by a pretty wide margin.

[cyan smelt]

Not to mention astral barrage

Hence dark tera

[stone trellis]

100 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Psychic vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Pecharunt: 172-203 (88.2 - 104.1%) -- 25% chance to OHKO

Yeah.

Miraidon covers Zamazenta and Koraidon pretty well anyway.

[cyan smelt]

I think it can tank at least one sun boosted flare blitz from koraidon

[stone trellis]

You mean Pech?

[cyan smelt]

Yes

[stone trellis]

196+ Atk Life Orb Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Pecharunt in Sun: 130-153 (66.6 - 78.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Yep, he takes that shit like a champion.

I'm 90% sure that Bold Pecharunt actually takes Tera Fire FB.

[cyan smelt]

Serebii described pecharunt as a physical blissey which is pretty accurate

[stone trellis]

196+ Atk Life Orb Orichalcum Pulse Tera Fire Koraidon Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 124+ Def Pecharunt in Sun: 164-192 (84.1 - 98.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Holy mother of Arceus.

[cyan smelt]

I also saw it live a shadow ball from a speed booster flutter

[stone trellis]

252 SpA Flutter Mane Shadow Ball vs. 252 HP / 132 SpD Pecharunt: 134-162 (68.7 - 83%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Yeah, it lives by a pretty wide margin.

[cyan smelt]

So it's basically just chi yu, miraidon, Darkrai and caly shadow that it needs to watch out for, and probably magearna with a couple of boosts

It can tank an earthquake from dozo

[stone trellis]

Also Landorus.

[cyan smelt]

Oh right lando

And kyogre

[stone trellis]

And Groudon.

Nevermind, you live P-Blades.

[cyan smelt]

Never bringing it against strong special attackers

Unless it's tr

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/4dd83f27da4fbd68

[stone trellis]

Why is CSR so frail if it's Life Orb?

[dull ibex]

Thoughts

[stone trellis]

Life Orb tends to run more bulk to maximise the amount of HP you get while also taking as little Life Orb recoil as possible.

[dull ibex]

I can run spooky plate instead

It's not sash because of pao

[stone trellis]

Hence the 108 HP / 44 Def / 100 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe build on Showdown.

[stone trellis]

Are you that adamant about CSR being frail?

[dull ibex]

For now yes

[stone trellis]

Why?

[dull ibex]

I prefer spreads I understand

[stone trellis]

I can explain the Life Orb one to you.

It's simple: Life Orb recoil rounds down, so if you have 189 HP (like the Life Orb build) you only lose 18 HP after each attack.

So you just put the rest of the points into Special Attack, Defense and Special Defense while still being as fast as possible.

[dull ibex]

Oh that's fair

Can you post the full build so I can slap it into showdown

Got it

[stone trellis]

Calyrex-Shadow @ Life Orb
Ability: As One (Spectrier)
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 108 HP / 44 Def / 100 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
IVs: 0 Atk
Timid Nature

• Astral Barrage
• Psychic
• Nasty Plot
• Protect

[dull ibex]

Thanks

https://pokepast.es/1d60b3416baf9c9b full new team

I wanted to use CSR Zama and stay aggressive

[stone trellis]

Good luck.

I might be an avid CSR Zama hater, but I hope you do well.

[dull ibex]

I hope so as well

[chrome knot]

jus go 28/0/4/220/4/252

[dull ibex]

Why?

[chrome knot]

optimal life orb hp stat, bulk isnt necessary

[dull ibex]

Bulk is fine

[chrome knot]

dropping spatk by 15 stat pts for no reason

and like half the moves hitting into csr have such a high curve in damage bumps that the hp change wont matter

you also automatically lose csr zam mirror now that you can’t reliably 2hko zam

[cyan smelt]

https://pokepast.es/c934805c89db3400 ok here's my crappy reg j team lol

[stone trellis]

Looks great.

[stone trellis]

Yeah, it's not living Helping Hand Tera Water Surging Strikes or +1 Tera Fire Ivy Cudgel either way.

[next stump]

https://x.com/dinomitevgc/status/1865115901445492972?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddfszOAZ6w

Oliver Gausden (@DinomiteVGC)

The RNG never mattered, you could have always played better, we play bo3 for a reason. The sooner people realise this, the sooner they'll get good.

Analyse your damn games

X · Dec 6, 2024, 7:27 PM

[chrome knot]

tough pill to swallow

[bold geode]

The sermon no one wants to attend church for

[bold geode]

Bulk doesn't really make sense here, at least not that much
I have heard some go to bulky horse but personally I think it's better when they hit harder and go fast
That being said, if you REALLY want bulk, I think 28/84 for HP/Def over 108/44 makes more sense
Let's you survive Tera Water Surging from Scarf or Sash Ursh, from there you can choose to either drop speed or attack, meaning you have either lower speed or go like I think either 140 or 156 Spatk

Then again, I think the spread Emma gave is just a tiny bit more reliable

[buoyant marlin]

Could this team still be good? https://pokepast.es/a89887c5ab6cb33e

[stone trellis]

Is this the NAIC team or am I tripping?

[forest arrow]

NAIC had whims > Grimm

But yes this team is still good

[strong marsh]

Paul

[stone trellis]

Yeah?

[river zealot]

anyone wanna battle

[dense latch]

#1046572041421197352

[buoyant marlin]

Quick question about ev spread. As a beginner would it be ok to follow the builds on smogon? And later do more complex spread fitting my needs

[next stump]

If you're playing VGC, it's better to get your EV spreads from a website like https://www.munchstats.com/

It's more actively updated and it has other useful info too

[dull ibex]

we replaced shifu

with rillaboom to improve my mirai matchup

[foggy lodge]

I just realized how many ability patches we need for reg H teams lmao

[next stump]

champions cant come soon enough lol

[dull ibex]

FOR REAL

https://pokepast.es/c419685c3073151a There is a rental for these spreads

may just use it

nvm rental is dead

[next stump]

@lofty tartan I checked with my fiancee who went on a family trip to Maine earlier this summer, she spent a night in Bangor before going to Acadaia National Park

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/DavidPartVGC/status/1953908366691955126

David Partington (@DavidPartVGC)

Countdown to World's - 10 Names You Can't Ignore

#️⃣7️⃣ - Joji Kaieda (@mihono_suica)

📕Achievements: Joji arrived on the VG scene in the Sword & Shield era, managing to achieve a top 16 finish at Japan Nationals in 2021, qualifying for World's in 2022, and since achieved 1st in

X · Aug 8, 2025, 7:57 PM

[next stump]

best ladder player of all time

🐐

[lofty tartan]

Oh yeah? Yeah I work for Bangor

Turns out there's a shot I may be taking over for my boss because he sucks at his job

[chrome knot]

did u see discord dm

[dull ibex]

could i stay with max max and maybe change the item?

[river zealot]

anyone wanna battle

[dull ibex]

cart or showdown?

[river zealot]

wdym

[dull ibex]

in game or on showdown?

[river zealot]

in game

[dull ibex]

singles or doubles

[river zealot]

i dont mind either

[dull ibex]

ill do a doubles match

[river zealot]

ok

[dull ibex]

code is 4635 6453

[river zealot]

ok im searching

[dull ibex]

my ign is redingtonJ

searching

[river zealot]

ok

[dull ibex]

I may play a bit badly

[polar canyon]

That should be fun

[river zealot]

i cant play because of one of rules

two of my pokemon have the same item

[dull ibex]

then change an item

[polar canyon]

That usually solves that issue

[dull ibex]

do you not play vgc?

[river zealot]

no

[dull ibex]

oh.

this should be interesting

[river zealot]

ok now im ready

ik searching

[dull ibex]

wut

[river zealot]

One sec

try again

for the new item 90% of logic was thrown away

[dull ibex]

I bet

[deft meteor]

I have a question can I make a sun team around leafeon ?

[dull ibex]

leafeon is not very good but im sure you could

[deft meteor]

So it wouldn't work with a competitive team?

[dull ibex]

I don't think so

[deft meteor]

So I should use a different Eevee evolution ?

[bold geode]

What other item you even want?

[dull ibex]

I was thinking spookyplate

[deft meteor]

Honestly I don't know anything about making a team so I need help

[bold geode]

20% boost to Astral Barrage vs 20% boost to everything else

[dull ibex]

Can I suggest you use a rental of a well made team then learn the game before building one?

I hope that didnt come out too harshly

[deft meteor]

I guess I could try with the rental thing I just don't know

[dull ibex]

gg cheese

[river zealot]

gg

also i have a question i wasnt paying attention did i use perish song

[dull ibex]

dont think so

it wouldn't have worked anyways

[river zealot]

I mean the zamazenta killed my gengar

[dull ibex]

perish song is hard to play well

[river zealot]

my gengar whole purpose is to kill a mon i dont like

it has disable mean look perish song and destiny bond

[foggy lodge]

All eeveelutions are bad in this format ngl

Sylveon is borderline viable

[dull ibex]

speak of the devil

im facing one

[foggy lodge]

Espeon is usable if you want to pretend that there are not like 20 other expanding force users in the game

[deft meteor]

I thought Sylveon was good for comparative play?

[dull ibex]

at the beginning it was

[deft meteor]

I'm going to have to come up with an idea for a team

[dull ibex]

good luck

[deft meteor]

Before I create a team how strong is this year's competition

[jade dust]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2418566462

When the game ends in turn 2

[dull ibex]

very

[deft meteor]

Oh ..boy...

[heady onyx]

misquoting someone isn't a tool to defuse a tensed situation normally. I'd suggest trying to understand the other and not behaving like a know-it-all when it comes to factually proven things. Very infuriating that a helper can hold their opinion above facts.

[dull ibex]

Oh boy

[dull haven]

This has been a situation that was moved on so I'll give you a final warning as a nicety. Drop it and move on. You don't need to argue, especially when the helper already did their part and apologized. You also do not need to have the last word. Leave this situation in the dust and move on with your day. If you can't then further action'll have to be taken since you have a history of dragging things on. This is done.

[chrome knot]

@bold geode monke i dyed my hair today

[bold geode]

Ooh can I see it?

[chrome knot]

yeah but first heres a before pic when i had jus sat down

and after ;3

[bold geode]

Oh pog love it

[chrome knot]

yay!

[cedar trench]

Hello guys, I'm really new to competetive pokemon, and while playing showdown 2v2 in Reg H I got a case where on Gothitelle's first turn I fake out Volcarona, but it uses Heat Wave and kills me.

Shouldn't fake out flinch the pokemon it hit?

[knotty mirage]

Covert cloak

[cedar trench]

It had an item that denies it?

oh, okay

[dense latch]

covert cloak denies all secondary effects from moves including fake out flinches

[cedar trench]

does it deny encore?

[bold geode]

Question actually
That's just like blonde right or is it the platinum stuff

[next stump]

nope, encore's primary effect is locking you into a move

no secondary effect

[waxen dock]

What about toxic thread?

[bold geode]

Bro's out here worrying about Ariados

[next stump]

that's a move? hahaha

[waxen dock]

Does it count as a secendary effect

[tiny karma]

Move: Toxic Thread

Lowers the target's Speed by 1 stage and poisons it.

Type

Poison

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

20 (32)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Reflectable

Affected by Magic Coat and Magic Bounce.

Sableye version 4.28.2

[next stump]

i'd imagine it blocks the poison

[dense latch]

Covert Cloak protects the holder from the additional effects of other Pokémon's damaging moves.

[knotty mirage]

I just want to know from people who already play reg j on showdown but does electric terrain just shutdown gravity dark void or nah ?

[dense latch]

so it doesn't block anything

[waxen dock]

It does shut dark void

But gravity not

Each terrain has its own effect

Rlectric blocks sleep

[knotty mirage]

I mean the reason people even use gravity in the first place is for dark void so good enough for me

[waxen dock]

Grassy heals and do 0.5 to earthquaqe and buldoze

Psychic blocks priority

And misty blocks status effect like burn

And misty also half the damage of dragon type moves

And grassy electric and psychic power up these type moves bt 1.3

[waxen dock]

Also pblades

[next stump]

Rank 1 right now posted on twitter

I wonder if that’s singles hahaha

[dull ibex]

im going to run imprison on my zama over heavy slam

or atleast im considering it

[cyan smelt]

Run imprison mew

[next stump]

Yep definitely singles after digging deeper on their profile

[wanton stirrup]

They made mythicals legal?

[knotty mirage]

Damn the new shiny wo chien event really makes people trying so hard to makes wo chien good competitively

[next stump]

yes they did for online ranked battles starting september

[knotty mirage]

Yeah in new reg j you can use mythical even tho you need to use your restricted slot for them

[wanton stirrup]

Arceus legal.

[ember linden]

Only one hard to build with lol

[wanton stirrup]

https://tenor.com/view/tai-lo-gif-7790910211250344374

[ember linden]

Everyone’s reaction lmao

[knotty mirage]

Not sure if it's gonna do much i can only see it get body press to oblivion by zamazenta

[wanton stirrup]

Fairy Arceus?

[ember linden]

Normal arceus is the best one

[wanton stirrup]

Also I see people chatting about Darkrai + Gravity.

[knotty mirage]

I know e speed sword dance with chien pao

[wanton stirrup]

Tbh I think that’s going to be kind of a gag and not a real meta strategy.

[ember linden]

Darkrai + gravity is meh

[knotty mirage]

But like i said it prolly just gonna end up as fodder for caly s zam team

[wanton stirrup]

I could be wrong but I see so many things going wrong.

[knotty mirage]

It got shutdown by miraidon at least

[wanton stirrup]

Yeah Miraidon comes in and you’re done.

Also Fake Out or taunt.

[ember linden]

Miraidon won’t go anywhere and the most consistent way of working I’ve seen is scarf darkrai that underspeeds csr by 1 point so csr gets gravity up and then darkrai uses the move and has to immediately switch after lol

It’s kinda cool but that’s it

[knotty mirage]

But seriously tho mythical prolly just gonna end up as meme build especially when you can just use mirai caly i or caly s zam

[ember linden]

It needs to be 136 speed honestly unless this format goes to live events

[knotty mirage]

It just not worth your restricted slot except for select few

[wanton stirrup]

The only mythical that’s going to be worth anything is Arceus.

[next stump]

I think the format will become very stale when people realize that every tournament will be Reg H so there's no meta teams to steal hahaha

[wanton stirrup]

Unless I’m forgetting someone.

[next stump]

End of the season screenshots of teams and that's really it

[knotty mirage]

And magearna i think if you use hard trick room team

[wanton stirrup]

Oh yeah Magearna.

So we have a whopping two newcomers that are actually real.

[wanton stirrup]

I tapped out of the online doubles ladder once Reg H rolled around.

Calyrex genuinely ruins doubles for me.

Calyrex Ice is not that bad to deal with actually but Shadow, I hate it.

[ember linden]

Not all that hard to deal with

I think you can still find fun

[wanton stirrup]

I’ll take this W I got ages ago and be content until the next regulation rolls around.

[knotty mirage]

Have you tried something like scarf snarl miraidon

[wanton stirrup]

I did play Reg H at one point and managed to get Giratina-O up to Ultra Ball tier

But I got busy and just barely missed out, season ended and I never made it.

[ember linden]

Reg-G you mean?

[wanton stirrup]

Wait

[ember linden]

No legendaries in reg-h

[wanton stirrup]

Yeah think I’m getting confused

[knotty mirage]

[wanton stirrup]

Oops.

[wanton stirrup]

Is this an actual thing?

[knotty mirage]

I mean we can use 2 restricted now so yeah

[ember linden]

Yes

[wanton stirrup]

That’s really funny I may try that.

[ember linden]

It’s a good set into csr

[wanton stirrup]

That or I’ll just roll up with Regigigas and finesse my way to master ball tier somehow.

On paper the Regi matchup isn’t THAT bad if you have a Weezing.

[knotty mirage]

Just try to use secondary restricted that can deal with zamazenta because it's pretty much caly s partner in crime most of the time

[wanton stirrup]

Immune to Barrage and you can just OHKO with knock off.

It’s really not that bad when you really take a moment to think about it.

[ember linden]

It definitely is

[wanton stirrup]

Yeah…

😔

[ember linden]

Lol

[solid frigate]

huh Vik cameo

[ember linden]

?

[solid frigate]

rare to see you here

[ember linden]

Yeah

[chrome knot]

good thing

[solid frigate]

true

[chrome knot]

lol

[foggy lodge]

https://youtu.be/j5Qi7gQk99c?si=CRezg_ksepST_hH0

[next stump]

I saw that earlier, he has a good channel

I think those quick tutorial videos are good

[foggy lodge]

Yeh I like their channel

I wonder if hard TR is a thing in this format lol

I know atleast someone that is bringing hard TR to worlds but idk

https://www.lacuarta.com/tendencias/noticia/estos-son-los-chilenos-que-lucharan-por-convertirse-en-maestros-en-el-mundial-de-pokemon/

They made an article about the chilean players that go to worlds❤️

[next stump]

https://pokepast.es/9fec17fa3cfff8df

this had a really good NAIC result

[dense latch]

that's a lot of tcg players

[foggy lodge]

19 players in VGC

Still a good amount for a considered "small" country

[dense latch]

i remember renzo navarro got an article in a big local newspaper after winning the players cup

[foggy lodge]

That's so cool

[glacial tartan]

I have this one last hint from Masuda, before I leave Pokemon for good, to say to you.....

Tell me that I didn't make my Pokemon that way!!!!"```

[solid frigate]

more like

L O N G

[foggy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/bro-just-typing-shit-bro-just-typing-shit-gif-18336060238854257551

[red willow]

Is galarian slowking playable in reg h

Or not good

[dense latch]

not good

[red willow]

Oh no

Guess I'll play sneasler as my poison type and be original

[foggy lodge]

https://www.abyssalruins.com/entrevistas/victor-medina-wcs-2025/

Torviv interview pre worlds

Tho its in spanish I still consider it a valuable read

[next stump]

VAMOS HARRY POTTER

[bold geode]

VAMOS HARRY POTTER

[bold geode]

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/duckpoind/status/1954292713219674436

duckpond (@duckpoind)

Look I'm not saying this is all a psyop

But

If I was planning on running Timid CSR at Worlds

I would want to get as many people as possible, myself included, to flood the ladder and online tournaments with Modest Calyrex the week before

Just saying

X · Aug 9, 2025, 9:24 PM

timid CSR winning worlds in a tournament full of modest CSR would be some of the funniest histories for competitive pokemon

[dense latch]

META MANIPULATION RAHHHHH

[rustic mountain]

this made me think of the reddit post where some1 had wolfey sayin incineroar go roar or something

[foggy lodge]

what would tree co.'s phrase be...

https://x.com/WestyLiamVGC/status/1954395960785715209

WestyVGC 🔜 🇺🇸 (@WestyLiamVGC)

Love this game so much such a fun format we should do reg H 3.0 wouldn’t that be so funny lmao lmao lmao lmao lmao lmao lmao lmao lmao Frankfurt and Lille gonna be so fun #havingsuchafuntimewithdireclawtotallynotbrokenlmaoalmaolmaolmaofunfunfunfun

X · Aug 10, 2025, 4:14 AM

Reg H is back so its time to say RNG DOES matter and its annoying af but you still could have played better

(most of the time)

[dense latch]

https://x.com/SoulSurVGC/status/1953327654557319232

Jeudy ➡️ Pokemon Pocket (@SoulSurVGC)

“Time for Incin to Roar!” - Wolfe Glick

X · Aug 7, 2025, 5:29 AM

[molten oasis]

not wolfey crashing out lmao

i think he hates sneasler doesnt he?

[rustic mountain]

damn worlds only a week away

[solid frigate]

i tink Liam is losing it

[molten oasis]

we're not gonna talk about me being illiterate

[solid frigate]

Literacy is dead

[jade dust]

Is it me or Dondozo feels stronger in restricted formats?

I feel like it was easier to counter it in past regulations for some reason

Before we could use Murkrow, Palafin or Primarina with haze to shut it down

But nobody uses those in restricted

[dense latch]

it's pretty eh in reg i

it was good in reg g at least

it does well into a few teams but just gets overwhelmed by others

[molten oasis]

its not as prepped for ig

[jade dust]

My teams specifically struggle to do anything

I use caly ice and miraidon in reg I and caly ice and magearna in J

Draco meteor doesn’t do enough

[molten oasis]

you're struggling into dozo, with miraidon? and CIR?

what???

[jade dust]

And in my Magearna team, unaware ignores all my boosts

[dense latch]

a well positioned miraidon should beat dozo

[jade dust]

I mean tera grass makes electro drift a 6HKO

By that point my Miraidon will be gone

And Draco meteor doesn’t a bit over half

[dense latch]

pin it

[jade dust]

But with halved sp atk can’t do much

[dense latch]

redirect

[cyan smelt]

Pecharunt does well into dozo, can tank an earthquake, poison gas + helping hand hex is good

[jade dust]

What about earthquake

It’s really hard to position miraidon without eating an earthquake

That is an easy 2HKO

[molten oasis]

who runs eq in reg I

[jade dust]

Dozo apparently

[molten oasis]

rilla is everywhere, wide guard is everywhere

[jade dust]

Yeah but obviously I don’t have Rilla if I have Miraidon

[molten oasis]

ok well, you just pin dozo with mirai and CIR

[jade dust]

If super effective glacial lance did more than 10% damage

[dense latch]

if you really can't beat it

you'll only see it once every 20-30 games at most statistically

you're gonna have some tricky matchups but dozo is winnable

what's your team

[molten oasis]

164+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Rider Glacial Lance vs. +2 4 HP / 196+ Def Tera-Grass Dondozo: 66-78 (29.2 - 34.5%) -- 98.05% chance to 4HKO after Leftovers recovery thats a lot more than 10%

[jade dust]

More specifically the caly shadow and weezing teams. I use my tera on caly or else I can’t trade favorably

Weezing runs taunt so I can’t set trick room reliability

So when Dozo comes in, I have tera fire caly ice

[jade dust]

Yeah at least it’s not that common

[jade dust]

Well I use 116 atk

[molten oasis]

still

[jade dust]

https://pokepast.es/6e79c98cd490687e

This is the team for reg I

https://pokepast.es/0c9de81a6c21457a

[dense latch]

make the most out of your ogerpon

[jade dust]

This is reg J

[dense latch]

if you can get it to land cudgels you can get lucky and crit at least

if not it'll do decent damage to tera grass anyways

[jade dust]

Well did you see the replay I posted some time here?

[cyan smelt]

I wanna play a dozo again so I can poison it and hex it

[jade dust]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2402913021-pvt0edg2vdm7tn6wtw2ft67pevhcdrxpw

I manage to win but Dozo lived a tera fire ivy cudgel

[molten oasis]

the fact freeze dry would really help is hilarious

[jade dust]

When it had less than 40% HP

[molten oasis]

instead you have chilling water

[jade dust]

Lol well it’s a funny move

Would it do much against Dozo?

I didn’t want to use another ice move on bundle cuz I already have CIR

[foggy lodge]

Consistency >

As Erik said you see it roughly every 20-30 games

Would you prefer having an extra tool to help in a MU you can perfectly never encounter or having consistency into a good part of the meta

Apart from that Miraidon CIR is a pin into Dozo where even if draco meteor isn't a OHKO two draco meteors take it down

And even then its a 2v1 where Dozo shouldn't be as oppresive

Eve Bundle Miraidon can pin it with volt switch ice beam

[jade dust]

Yeah I don’t want to specifically tech against Dozo

I don’t want to add Murkrow just for that MU

I need to position better to deal enough damage

[foggy lodge]

You don't even really need to tech

You have the tools to beat it

First analyze is there is REALLY nothing you can do in that MU and the consider changing stuff

Cuz I even find weird that Korai CSR comps would pick Dozo mode into your team

If I was the Dozo player I would pick CSR Koraidon Weezing and the 6th mon

[jade dust]

So freeze dry on bundle?

[dense latch]

that's worth it regardless i think it's a better choice than chilling water

[foggy lodge]

What kind of Bundle are you using even lol

[molten oasis]

a bundle

[foggy lodge]

If you are only running water moves idk what you are doing

Precissely Bundle's work for Miraidon should be dealing with grass and ground types

[molten oasis]

.

[foggy lodge]

Super specific question but

If someone got chosen to appear on stream and they can't use their own switch for the stream but they don't speak english what would happen

Because afaik the switches they have for stream are all in english

[jade dust]

Lol idk why they didn’t give Bundle any water move

Yes fuck scald

Worthless piece of shit coward move

But make an alternative for water special moves

[stone trellis]

Yeah, that's kind of stupid.

[dense latch]

i think i've seen non-english streams tho i might be wrong

they'd probably use the other person's POV and if that doesn't work then you're just forced to put it in their native language i suppose

[jade dust]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2418795384-9s9yx44vwikx26xe3f93oteh9vxa8prpw

I DID IT

I BEAT ONE OF THOSE DOZO TEAMS

I was a lucky with the paralyze

But we take it

[cyan smelt]

God if they're going tera steel to avoid poison I'm gonna have a hard time with pecharunt

[jade dust]

Yeah that was funny

Probably the reason they use tera steel

But you see?

Took like 6 turns to beat the fish

With some lucky paralyze

If not would had taken way more

[molten oasis]

good job

[cyan smelt]

If they go tera steel I just go helping hand headlong rush

Tera steel is probably to avoid clear smog too

[jade dust]

Yeah, clear smog is the other move that can remove buffs

[cyan smelt]

Nobody is running haze

[jade dust]

Clear smog is rare too

[stone trellis]

One singular crit would've sent Dondozo back to the lobby.

[mighty stump]

Time to lose to Amoonguss

[molten oasis]

Tofu? Active? Impossible

[knotty mirage]

[jade dust]

Need to get lucky too

[stone trellis]

How many full paras did you get again?

What was it, four or five?

[jade dust]

Was 2 or 3

[stone trellis]

Yeah, that's only 1/64.

So it's only 3 times less likely than a single critical hit.

[cyan smelt]

are annihilapes vital spirit now to stop darkrai sableye stuff?

[solid frigate]

miraidon exists lol

[brave hazel]

Focus sash is so annoying.

Also since when does sheer cold hit so often.

[solid frigate]

me when No Guard Sheer Cold

[next stump]

https://x.com/wolfeyglick/status/1954522001453851103?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddfszOAZ6w

Wolfey (@WolfeyGlick)

I'm off to California for the Pokemon World Championships this Friday! I've really enjoyed the prep process this year, it's always a special time. I want to focus on the tournament 100% so I won't be doing any fan interaction until after I'm eliminated - thanks for understanding!

X · Aug 10, 2025, 12:35 PM

[stone trellis]

My stocks are on Marco, MDB, Wolfey and Dillon.

I actually hope MDB wins, since he seems to run CIR-Miraidon.

[chrome knot]

hope mdb misses day 2

[stone trellis]

?

What do you mean?

How do you "miss" day 2?

[chrome knot]

not making it..?

[next stump]

you've gotten win 6 out of 8 rounds day 1 to make day 2

[stone trellis]

Oh.

Yeah, I know how it works.

Anyway, why do you hope he doesn't make it to day 2?

Did he steal your lunch money back in high school?

[chrome knot]

an asshole when he watchpartied regionals while my close friend was ON stream

hes jus a weirdo imo! i dont rly care if hes good lol

[stone trellis]

I don't care if he's a weirdo, he's a good player.

I don't personally plan on interacting with these people anyway.

[chrome knot]

hmmmm this line of thinking will bring you to scary places in life

[stone trellis]

I'm sorry for not wishing for him to burn in hell, alright?

[chrome knot]

meant more as a broad statement

[stone trellis]

I know.

Look, my bias for CIR-Miraidon takes priority here.

If he's a bad person, that's his problem to deal with.

[chrome knot]

so what do if he brings not that

[stone trellis]

Yeah, throw him in jail.

[chrome knot]

[stone trellis]

I can make excuses when it's the GOAT duo.

[bold geode]

I respect him as a player, but I will say that whole thing was a bit off putting

[next stump]

I think Pokemon competitive unfortunately attracts some really big weirdos

[red willow]

Why are there more reg h pastes that include glimmora over sneasler lol

[solid frigate]

i mean 3rd times is the charm

[stone trellis]

Or sixth if you're Wolfe Glick.

[next stump]

where are you seeing them?

[red willow]

When I google regulation h pokepaste lol

But uh whats a good sneasler balance team look like for reg h

[foggy lodge]

Check the VGC repository

[real prairie]

Someone help me out, just played someone with donzogiri, slept it, woke up turn 1, slept it again, chesto berry proct

Surely berry would proct first time?!

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/VGCVictoryRoad/status/1954569615872237939

Victory Road VGC (@VGCVictoryRoad)

This is the Top 16 bracket of the Victory Road to Anaheim - The Final Stretch! 🏆

The winners of this round guarantee prize money! 💸

X · Aug 10, 2025, 3:44 PM

[red willow]

Am I crazy or am I seeing BM ursa on non tr teams with tw and max speed investment

[solid frigate]

its not that uncommon

[red willow]

Right on think I've got a team in theory cookin

Sneasler BM ursa Dnite Dhengo Incin and Rilla for reg h

Just need to figure out how to fit tw on dnite

[shadow wind]

Groudon made it 🙏🙏

With Paotei of all things

I swear I’ve made every single Groudon team at some point in my builder

Monkeys in a typewriter kind of builder

[red willow]

What entei even do lol

[molten oasis]

sun boosted SoR sacred fire probably hurts like hell

[shadow wind]

Oh yeah

I love leading Paotei into every MU in the world

Although they have to run crash

Which is not fire

[red willow]

I guess having access to just auto click ice spinner into a Mirai lead would be pretty cool

[shadow wind]

Yeah I love doing it

Or you lead it into Indeedee CIR

Ohko Indeedee and sacred fire the CIR

Just don’t miss

[bold geode]

If they have Stone Edge and CB too you also can OHKO like Incin and Hearth with SoR boost

[jade dust]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2419049237-fe3191iechjh87565i89ocahessbaompw

Urshifu is too good against perish

[dull ibex]

hi monke

[stone trellis]

Farig was the real GOAT here.

[jade dust]

Melman the GOAT

[stone trellis]

I've said it and I'll say it again: Stopping priority moves while not having to engage in any terrain wars AND being immune to Ghost moves is extremely good.

On top of the great bulk.

[jade dust]

Fari is one of the things stopping caly shadow from ruining the game

[dull ibex]

https://pokepast.es/67c8a08ddef74adb alright chat need a bulky kyogre

[stone trellis]

Same with Bolt stopping TornShifu from running away with the game back when it first came out, right?

[jade dust]

Also some players are worried for Xerneas coming back and ruining the game

But remember Xerneas was bad in SwSH

Zacian kept it in check very hard

[real prairie]

Any ideas?

[stone trellis]

Zacian will fuck Xerneas' shit up.

[jade dust]

What’s your question?

[real prairie]

^

[jade dust]

I don’t understand the question

[next stump]

I think their concern, like wolfey said in his video, is that xerneas + tera is terrifying. I don't think anyone is worried about Xerneas again in a no tera format

[real prairie]

When I put a pokemon to sleep, surely the berry proct straight away, not the second time I put them to sleep

Nevermind just figured it out

Calyrex was on the field first time.

I played myself

[next stump]

https://tenor.com/view/congratulations-played-way-to-go-gif-20642385

[jade dust]

Berries only work the first time

Gets eaten

Then disappear

Abilities like unnerve prevent berries from being used

Caly has unnerve

[dull ibex]

tera will make xern broken again

[real prairie]

Unless the horse is around, so they got a 1 turn sleep then a berry proct

[dull ibex]

xern is going to be unstoppable in champions

primal groudon back and it gets to tera

[jade dust]

No the berry won’t work unless you KO it or it switches out

[real prairie]

I had the horse

[stone trellis]

Tera Steel is the only Tera which deals with both the Poison and the Steel weakness.

[jade dust]

I mean tera fire will be good for it but

[real prairie]

Then switched it out and spored again, triggering the berry.

It's fine I'm an idiot

[stone trellis]

Primal Groudon will eat the deer alive.

[jade dust]

^

[stone trellis]

Tera Fire or Tera Steel, that thing is not living.

Moreover, Dondozo (with Tatsugiri) just walls everything the two could possibly throw at it.

[jade dust]

Also why do some people say Xerneas didn’t learn anything but fairy moves?

It gets thunderbolt, flash cannon and psychic

Psyshock too

Those are good coverage options

[stone trellis]

Congrats, that'll do a lot to the Tera Grass Dondozo.

And no, Pdon Heat Crash does not do a lot to it.

[next stump]

+2 252+ SpA Fairy Aura Xerneas Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 132+ SpD Bronzong: 84-100 (48.2 - 57.4%) -- 94.53% chance to 2HKO
(84, 86, 87, 87, 89, 90, 90, 92, 93, 93, 95, 96, 96, 98, 99, 100)

vs.

+2 252+ SpA Xerneas Thunderbolt vs. 252 HP / 132+ SpD Bronzong: 81-96 (46.5 - 55.1%) -- 69.53% chance to 2HKO

you're dealing as much damage with STAB Fairy Aura moves as you are with a neutral coverage move

[stone trellis]

Arguably slightly more.

[jade dust]

I mean if quad resistant then it’s doing nothing

Like Heartan

[next stump]

Sure, but you can say that about anything

[stone trellis]

Heatran does NOT like to sit in the field when Primal fucking Groudon is opposite to it.

[next stump]

it's more useful to have Dazzling for spread than it is to have a niche coverage move for pokemon that 4x resist fairy

[jade dust]

So then a coverage option is good to have to at least hit for neutral

[next stump]

You're going to click Dazzling probably 2-3x as much as your neutral coverage move

[jade dust]

Drop Moonblast then

[next stump]

brother what

[jade dust]

Or protect

[dense latch]

it’s not a single battle the team
should be able to check the resists

[next stump]

if that was strong, people would have run it in 2016 or 2019 when the pokemon was broken

they have 2+ years to decide on coverage moves and unanimously decided it wasn't worth the slot

[dense latch]

boosted xern feels like it has no resistances aside from quad resists

[stone trellis]

And Bronzong.

[dense latch]

you’re sabotaging how well it deals with everything else for a few mons that the rest of the team should check anyways

[jade dust]

So the issue was not limited movepool

Because the coverage moves are there

[bold geode]

Bye

[dull ibex]

Kyogre @ Assault Vest
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 52 Def / 156 SpA / 4 SpD / 44 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Water Spout
• Origin Pulse
• Ice Beam
• Thunder

[stone trellis]

What is this calcing for?

[dull ibex]

no idea its the pikalytics spread

[real prairie]

We continue the climb...

[bold geode]

Ok
Probably fine

[dull ibex]

I like this one. It's plenty bulky without sacrificing offense too much. Lives a -1 wood hammer from rillaboom and 2 life orb astral barrages from calyrex.

Defenses are nice, but if your pokemon can't do damage, it's not a good pokemon most of the time. (There is an exception for purely support pokemon like amoonguss)

found this on reddit

[bold geode]

I was in the top 200 at the beginning until I lost a couple
I've probably taken a mad fall

[bold geode]

I keep forgetting you take advice from fucking r/vgc

[real prairie]

Bravo! Annoyed at myself as I started the ladder climb 12-1 and bottled

[dull ibex]

no i take advice from their discord not the subreddit

[bold geode]

Still feel like that's the fucking Bing of advice

[dull ibex]

its done me good so far

[bold geode]

Nah I was doing good then I lost a game against Mirai Nala where they swapped sets and COMPLETELY fucked with my gameplan

[dull ibex]

im putting bulk on kyogre becasue of you monke lmao

[bold geode]

Like I go ok Fake Out into the Miraidon and it don't matter if Whims Tailwinds cuz I take a KO with Tera Stellar CC
Nah it's fucking Cloak and it lives on 1

[molten oasis]

bruh

[real prairie]

Running feint on Smeargle has been so perfect tbh surprised noone else is

[dull ibex]

back to trade channels i go ig wish me luck

[bold geode]

Well yeah cuz that's what you do LMAO

[real prairie]

Hate cloak miraidon, I've been faking out the whims as so many as sash endeavour now

[dull ibex]

does zacian also need any bulk?

[bold geode]

Your choice probably

[dull ibex]

🤔

[real prairie]

Oh shit that's a big jump for 1 win

[dull ibex]

I am around 7000

[bold geode]

Yeah but like
Even with Sash Ursh I can't afford to not Fake Out the Mirai in that board LMAO
Also like knowing me I'll get the fucking Cloak Whims

[real prairie]

What they cooking

[bold geode]

Honestly just looks like an offensive CSR Zam team

[next stump]

def some imprison shenanigans

and anti-miraidon terrain control

[real prairie]

Torn + whims + indeedee

[next stump]

https://x.com/chazingdra/status/1954626954214228299?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddfszOAZ6w

Charlie Merriman (Chazingdra) (@Chazingdra)

So with the latest VR results, of all 26 Reg I events on their site (official & grassroots) here’s the no. of wins/pair:

CSR/Zam + CIR/Mir - 6

Zam/Mir - 3

Lunala/Mir + CSR/Kor - 2

CIR/Kyogre, CSR/Mir, Lunala/CIR, Terapagos/Mir, CSR/Terapagos, Groudon/Mir, Zacian/Kyogre - 1

X · Aug 10, 2025, 7:32 PM

[foggy lodge]

300 elo gap wtf

[stone trellis]

Just like when someone with like, 1608 Elo beat my ass (I was barely 1300 at the time).

[jade dust]

A tie of Zama CSR and Mira CIR

I hope Mira CIR come on top

[stone trellis]

May the agenda be maintained.

Although if we combine the grassroots results with official tournament results, it's clear who has won more.

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/VGCVictoryRoad/status/1954609888220647902

Victory Road VGC (@VGCVictoryRoad)

Congratulations to 🇬🇧 Taran Birdee (@AuraRayquaza), winner of the Victory Road to Anaheim - The Final Stretch! 🏆

Taran takes home $1130 for the win! 💸

Thank you to all players for joining us this weekend! 🚀

📖 Teams, stats & all info: https://t.co/jnJxnEHLBT

X · Aug 10, 2025, 6:24 PM

This team is super strong going into worlds

[dull ibex]

ok kyogre has bulk now

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/455e96f16be2fc74

[dull ibex]

do i keep the mystic water?

[foggy lodge]

The real meta manipulation

[molten oasis]

Oh whimsi, interesting

[molten oasis]

That was so funny

Caught me so off guard

[molten oasis]

If you wanna go even bulkier you could run av, but mystic is the way to go imo

[dull ibex]

urshifu has some bulk should i still give it a scarf?

[molten oasis]

Nah

Go splash plate or sash

[dull ibex]

chien has my sash so ill do splash plate

[real prairie]

Good place to stop for the night (excuse the brightness, windows snipit hates HDR)

[dull ibex]

maybe i need to put on bulk on zacian while im at it

[jade dust]

We should make a new agenda to kill Smeargle forever

Hunt them all till extinction

[stone trellis]

I'm on it.

Miraidon and Farigiraf already stop half of its tools.

[jade dust]

Yeah but I want it dead

I want to put them in eternal grave and use their grave as my personal toilet

[stone trellis]

Alright, give me your suggestions then.

Some run Decorate and Focus Sash.

So Prankster Taunt can also stop it from snowballing.

[molten oasis]

Do you want a spread?

[dull ibex]

if you explain it sure

[molten oasis]

And what do you want it to do? My spread eats +2 barrage, not LORB

[dull ibex]

im okay with anything

[stone trellis]

Wow, I wonder which handsome devil who just shaved for the second time ever has made a team with Miraidon, CIR, Farigiraf, a Prankster Taunt user and something that deals with the Focus Sash.

[molten oasis]

Shit my cookies got wiped

I need a minute

[stone trellis]

RIP Drago's teams.

[molten oasis]

Zacian-Crowned @ Rusted Sword
Ability: Intrepid Sword
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 148 HP / 172 Atk / 4 Def / 28 SpD / 156 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Play Rough
• Behemoth Blade
• Tera Blast
• Protect

Tera and Tera blast can be changed to whatever

[dull ibex]

thank you

[gentle crag]

redstonejesus has given 1 Gen Rep to drayagedrago

[molten oasis]

Notably, I believe it takes pblades from groudon, +2 astral barrage from non LORB/spell tag CSR

Should take helping hand HHP from CIR

[jade dust]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regj-2419114889

[molten oasis]

Hits 206 speed, can go 209 if you want, drop a bit of bulk for it

Attack dump

[jade dust]

@molten oasis

Do you see how much glacial lance did?

[molten oasis]

[jade dust]

In that replay

After tera grass

[molten oasis]

It’s almost like he was +4 defense instead of +2

[jade dust]

Yeah true tho isn’t def boosting giri more common?

And body press

[dull ibex]

tera ground? btw

why tera ground drago

[stone trellis]

It walls Miraidon's Electro Drift, it loses its two weaknesses and Tera Blast sends Incineroar back to the lobby.

[dull ibex]

ill try it then

[molten oasis]

Pressure

Tera electric miraidon still hates you

[jade dust]

Sacred sword is a good coverage move as well but tera blast is fine as well

[molten oasis]

Koraidon blows up, extra stuff for incin

[jade dust]

Specially cuz it ignore stat changes

[shadow wind]

Groudon top 4’ing the VR makes me happy

[fluid fiber]

About to hit M ball now, working on getting higher up https://pokepast.es/a1854b63ab9d49b1

Would've hit Masterball a lot earlier but been working on Reg H

[real prairie]

Good shit, will probably end up facing you in ladder at some point 🤣

[fluid fiber]

Probably lol

[real prairie]

If I do, I'll share my items screen too so we are on an even playing field haha

[buoyant marlin]

What mons you think we should prepare for Reg J?

[molten oasis]

Reg I mons

Mythicals suck for the most part, and even the good mythicals are eh

[foggy lodge]

Reg I meta + Arceus

[buoyant marlin]

Okok, even Darkrai wont be used you think?

[foggy lodge]

Only in gimmick stuff

Not really a good pokemon just something to annoy people

Tho the value of getting double dark void sleep is crazy

https://x.com/DinomiteVGC/status/1954668096397967455

Oliver Gausden (@DinomiteVGC)

Trying to build a meta reg H team is apparently very difficult because every time I make something I find out it's already been made 💀

X · Aug 10, 2025, 10:16 PM

[molten oasis]

Nah that’s too real

[shadow wind]

That was me with Groudon bro

Cause there’s only so many ways to make him work

[fluid fiber]

I think I'm the only one I've seen using Espathra tbf

Side note, I wish there was an item to let Minior start with it's shell broken

[solid frigate]

Darkrai when they saw Miraidon:

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-miraidon-plush-spin-silly-gif-7447766115590536849

[real prairie]

just shy of sub 100 now, this was a nice tech move this evening (excude the lack of audio, need to fix that)

[dense latch]

it's an impossible task im convinced

[waxen dock]

102 battles the season just atartes like a week and half ago

So that means you do like 10 battles a day

Which takes something like 2 hours each day

Thats a lot of timr

[next stump]

2 hours a day lowkey not very much time at all

that's pretty normal gaming hours for most people

[foggy lodge]

10 on bo1 is quick af

[wooden steeple]

could anyone help me get an english Screenshot for a rental i made?
T0R36T

[dull ibex]

one sec

[wooden steeple]

tysm 🙂

[wooden steeple]

tyy

"I top cut an 82 player tourney with non flareblitz non cc koraidon" lol

[fluid fiber]

I'm just tryin'a make day 2 when I hit the Vegas regional

[wooden steeple]

big

[next stump]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-chandler-joey-good-job-great-job-gif-14529502018741882152

[wooden steeple]

just gotta believe enough 🙂

[solid frigate]

uhhhhhh

good luck

[woeful spruce]

Hey so whats a good Pokemon Comp team?

Nvm

[dull ibex]

there is a few to choose from

[woeful spruce]

Would like to find a team thats meant for singles and have only 1 Legendary or mythical

[next stump]

Unfortunately this chat is almost all doubles :9

🙁 *

[dense latch]

lol i was trying to figure out what emotion :9 was supposed to express

[woeful spruce]

Damn it

[red willow]

Is Sinistchea a cool guy for reg h

[dense latch]

yea

it's good in rain teams

[red willow]

Carmel mocha or w/e seems like a good attack

Mocha Toastada

[dense latch]

matcha gotcha

[red willow]

You sure did

[next stump]

LOL trying to type while playing a league game

[red willow]

I have not jungled since they added the little guys that help you

[next stump]

unc

[red willow]

Fer sure

[dense latch]

i could never get into league for whatever reason

[red willow]

Some champs are fun to play and play against

Some

Is expandong force spamming in psychic terrain decent in reg h?

That typo is so good that I am leaving it

[dense latch]

yes

those indeeedee-m sneasler HO teams ruled late reg h

[red willow]

Ooohhhh not indeedee f

Weird

[dense latch]

i mean indeedee-f was still used but indeedee-m had a lot more usage once the format settled

but you only really saw female with hard tr

[red willow]

Ursaluna is a guy

That likes the tr

I might try that out too if I can ever roll a 0 spee teddiursa lol

[foggy lodge]

That duo is super opressive and people don't talk about it enough

You need answers for Indeedee Sneasler because otherwise they can tear through your team

They struggle about TR of course but most Indeedees run imprison trick room to prevent that

Atleast you force them to not click expanding force in theory but then it gets to mindgames where you have to either go for TR or for something else

[dense latch]

i hate going up against those teams

[next stump]

https://x.com/lexiconvgc/status/1954728304944247294?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddfszOAZ6w

Alex Underhill (@LexiconVGC)

locking in your worlds team on Sunday and spending the rest of the week spamming ladder with your auto loss matchup so everyone has practice into it >>>>>>>

X · Aug 11, 2025, 2:15 AM

[bold geode]

[bold geode]

I preferred the paste he shared earlier

[dense latch]

peak fiction

[dull ibex]

weegeecee?

[wooden steeple]

LOL

[dense latch]

at this point players will figure out how to meta manip during worlds

is this what prepping for reg i worlds does to a man

[foggy lodge]

The real prep for worlds is meta manipulate everyone and win based from that

[shadow wind]

At this point that’s half the game

Or just get a godly bracket

Like a Groudon team could make finals if all they fight is Miraidon Zama

[dense latch]

could it though

[shadow wind]

But unfortunately Groudon isn’t known for being lucky

On my life it could

85% of the time

My interest in mons has dipped so hard since Reg H

Getting so bad I started playing Hypixel Skyblock again 🥀

[dense latch]

you need to find your groudon

[shadow wind]

There just isn’t one

[dense latch]

use a scale shotter

close enough right

[shadow wind]

Ttar is the closest I’m going to get

But people actually use Ttar

Need to find a mon that’s viable but barely viable

[foggy lodge]

85% accurate stab move

That sets weather

[shadow wind]

And then build an entire team around it

[foggy lodge]

Close enough

[foggy lodge]

Calyrex shadow rider

[shadow wind]

Truly a barely viable Mon

[foggy lodge]

Niche option

[shadow wind]

Very niche

[foggy lodge]

Hmmm

Charizard is technically niche

It only exists on one very specific team

[shadow wind]

Not what I’m looking for though

Anything I make will just be a worse version of that team

At least with Groudon I was pioneering stuff

[foggy lodge]

Venusaur

[shadow wind]

Or I just go Lillikoal

[dense latch]

lilicamerupt 👍

[shadow wind]

🥀

Maybe I just devolve to hard TR

[foggy lodge]

Or Conner with perish

What mons learn perish song

[shadow wind]

I could play perish

But it’s just going to be worse than Wolfey perish

Or will it

Yeah screw it I’ll play perish

I’m finally home tomorrow so I can start team building

I haven’t been home for like 2 weeks, showdown on mobile is killing me

Boutta make the nastiest team anyone has ever seen

[foggy lodge]

Nvm good luck

[shadow wind]

I got this

[cyan smelt]

Murkrow prankster perish song

[shadow wind]

Ah heck nah

Gotta use Kricketune

Nah honestly I’ll probably use something like Altaria

[cyan smelt]

Have fun getting dracod by archaludon

[shadow wind]

Not a 1v1 broski

It’s kinda like there’s a whole other Pokémon on the field helping it out

[cyan smelt]

Yeah it's usually gothitelle

[shadow wind]

And that Mon has fake out

And Altaria doesn’t have to stay in the whole time

It could easily switch out to a Mon who could take a Draco

Also Altaria allows me to mess with weather teams

What’s a Pelipper without its rain

Or a Charizard without its sun