#competitive_discussion
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too much set up in this format would make the entire pacing went wrong
especially for Kyogre Teams
what does lanturn do
It does moves
i like its coverage and funny hydropump
Kyogre+Bolt does the samething and hits harder
just gotta put my boy down
justice for laturns đ â
because this format is not for Lanturn
If its like Reg H,sure i will not stop you
Water/Electric
Volt Absorb, Illuminate, Water Absorb (Hidden)
125/58/58/76/76/67
460
even in Randbats its Ass
contribution in the whole team is a must for the team to work in Double res
I specifically had him in order incase kyorge dies i could set up another rain dance and rely on oger or urisfu
tornadus gets rain dance too with priority
oh true i forgot about him
Torn is the GOAT against Zama imo
The true GOAT is Mirai lol
Nuh uh
252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 100 HP / 4 SpD Zamazenta-Crowned in Electric Terrain: 186-220 (103.3 - 122.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Fuck you
When are we bringing back sheer force landorus??
Wait itâs gone?
its literally legal wdyfm
I havenât seen it used
Oof
It looks good
it's still used
its literally on my team
Special right?
yes
Was it paired with kyogre?
Better than iron bundle 
Landorus is non restricted?
I just throw Lando with Kyogre and Miraidon to help against Rillaboom
Crazy
SCHYEAH
nah
zama mirai
I always though the rain boost was silly
yeah,non restricted is something that is not box art legendary
Brute bonnet đ„đ„đ„
Why did so many people hate on it?
kinda sad how ass lando-t is now
They did?
Incineroar
I mean a u turn does a good chunk so
They said it was amoongus but worse
i think bonnet is Healthy for the metagame imo
I mean yeah
That typing is no bueno defense wise
ok last chance to have lsnturn. Would he work as a support partner like eletroweb and confuse ray
Maybe
or is he completely out of the question
Sort of
its just so fucking bad that honestly
Even some starters are better
oh well of the team he goes..

its ass even in random battles.
So Iâve noticed
Base 76 sp attack? Dude wth is someone supposed to with that
ngl i never once looked at its chart and only had him because its my moms fav pokemon
that's just sad wow
Itâs attack and special attack are LOWER than BRIONNE
Dude even second stage starters have a higher special attack than lanturn
my boy needs a major buff in gen 10
its that bad
Nah it needs a new evolution
possible primape treatment?!
ok it's not that horrible mdb put it at b tier
THATS WHO I WAS CONSIDEING BUT FORGOT HIS NAME
THE KINGDRA
B tier? Thatâs too generous
that or toxepox
Toxapex is better
i had him on my sword comp and it worked out well
garchomp a power crempt?
ive seen him used too much in teams with rough skin and a rocky helmet
Let me in please
Ctually nvm rotom wash spread kinda sucks
Electric/Water
Levitate
50/65/107/105/107/86
520
Rotom
ig toxepex is the way to go
you play stall?
i usally like a offence or bulky team whilestall teams are pretty boring plus its not oike im gonna toxic stall with toxepex il just have it balance out the team while getting chip damge in
?
yikes on Toxapex in a Kyogre team play stall
Then what about clodsire
ass
what am i lookin at here
đ€š
MDB Opinions
on?
whatever the fuck on non restricteds
unranks you

Clefairy in ânot relevantâ is wild
what even is this
I ran volt absorb next to discharge mirai
itâs funny bc lanturn has 2 abilities and they have to assume you have 2 immunities
I have question is there any duo restricted that hard counter caly s and zamazenta combo ?
Ho-Oh has singular good matchups vs both, most Korai Luna is basically the anti-CSRZama team but thatâs also in part due to enabling flutter and brute
Oh so flutter and brute bonnet that hard counter them
randbats tier list
it made sense in the context of the convo bc we were talking abt how lanturn was bad even in randbats
i shouldâve made that clearer
I promise you groudon + jumpluff is the nuts in that matchup
Sunlight + chlorophyll will let you outspeed the caly as well as sunlight + flutter and you can threaten it with shadow ball or sleep powder/encore if they protect
Hey guys can someone explain to me how calyrex shadows stats work since its two pokemon combined into one?
Does it take the dominant stats of either pokemon or do they add up?
it takes the EVs & IVs of horseless Calyrex, and uses the base stats of the new form
So if i wanted to build a high speed, slightly physically bulky and high special attack caly shadow? Im spending more time training the calyrex correct?
the only thing youâd need to actually train up is the calyrex. For lack of better terms it just eats the horse and becomes stronger at its base level.
Okay that makes sense! Cheers đ
I guess Ho-Oh Mirai
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is giratina viable?
might want to run a hex set
with giratina altered
giratina altered is ass
giratina origin is a little less ass
but kinda ass nonetheless
flutter mane wins the 1v1 unless you tera tho
twave hex
im just fooling around đ
i like running gimmicky teams
It takes calyrex. Not the horse
Can't
Can only have one or the other form on a team
ah
hmm
might make a trick room alcremie teama
decorate calyrex ice or ursaluna
it can run helping hand as well
set up lighscreen
Fairy
Sweet Veil, Aroma Veil (Hidden)
65/60/75/110/121/64
495
0.5kg (20 BP)
0.3m
Generation 8
Milcery
Fairy, Amorphous
F: 100%
White
You can do calyrex and ditto /:
And hope your opponent has a calyrex
and hope it's in the same slot đ
gm
how to prove you hate incineroar without telling me you hate Incin
what are the best moves to run on caly ice?
Glacial lance, trick room, throat chop, high horsepower?
lance is a must, then high horsepower or leech seed, trick room, then protect
and what tera is best?
im currently running water
water or fire
got it
sometimes grass on rain teams
Do y'all think CIR eternatus could work?
whats the synergy of that duo
item-wise i was thinking healing
like sitrus berry
CIR deals with dragon, ground, and resists ice
Just eternatus being able to kill the tera fairy mons
just edrift
that duo is also kinda ass into zacian lol
tru
Its a big mind game, you can't insta click it into mirai
first tera fairy mon that comes to mind is lunala
the eternatus
I could run smth like bloodmoon
252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Glacial Lance vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tera Fairy Miraidon through Reflect: 67-79 (38 - 44.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
miraidon+Screens is nutty
sure but, still
are fairies really issues for CIR?
that arent zac
It doesn't love flutter, nor lunala (if tera)
you can easily play around flutter with a good cir team
yes, however electric and ice have the best offensive synergy
cir vs flutter doesnt happen in a vacuum
Prob good ol high horsepower
its not like every flutter runs ghost coverage too
then HHP the moon
-# mine runs thunderâŠ
bruh
itâs on a rain team
that's a choice
a choice of all time (this is normal nova things)
miraiogre with booster spatk-
thats foul
anyway
you kinda have miraidon to deal with lunala a bit no?
like usually
If y'all think eternatus and CIR aren't good together, then what's a good eternatus duo?
@solid frigate
Grass
Bug, Electric, Fighting, Fire, Poison, Water
Dark, Fairy, Flying, Ghost, Normal, Rock, Steel, Stellar
Dragon, Ground, Ice, Psychic
Poison-types cannot be Poisoned.
Lunala is the most common, but the miraidon problem remains
Eternatus Ho Oh 
Use a pivot move and swap it in
yea
eternatus terspagos..
thats the one i think could work
you have to run rilla and some other anti mirai thing i think
at least ting lu hurts it
Tera ground Tera blast zacian is a personal favorite of mine
all that work just to get astral barraged
and die
Astral barrage will go off first so no
Terapagos Eternatus
yupâŠ
the real duo we should be running is zacian zamazenta
thats like the 3rd best imo
you saw that one stall team too?
I still don't know if Meteor Beam works, you probably do just Stall lol
Monke i tried Meteor Beam Etern
It probably worked fine
had to go against that in ladder a few days ago
cosmic power fire spin etern with whirlwind rocky helmet ho-oh
https://pokepast.es/d46fb2ca4557d420 this abomination
the other ursa is better
why?
hits harder
bulkier
tanks better
mind's eye is a good ability
guts is better
and it's a special attacker
guts is a better ability
why was it so popular a while ago then?
a while ago as in?
reg h? early reg g?
yeah this
in reg h it was a more flexible pick, since it was bulky and didnt need lorb tera normal to pick up kos
and bm ursa wasnât great by the time reg g developed
bm ursa gets kinda nuked with ease
what's the difference is regulations?
1 more restricted?
yea
less room for it in reg i
ohh
what's in this regfulation?
all the non legendary/paradox mons
you saw things like ninetales and archaludon shine
alola a9 right?
ye
btw coming back to ursaluna, the best moveset is rock, ground and dark right?
why double ground?
spread and single target
it hits all including your teammate though
is a telepathy/levitate mon needed?
or flying
wide guard blocks eq, and you can protect
so like, lunala can click wide guard
next to ursa
and it blocks the damage
that shouldnt matter
i thought you ran rock slide for flying coverage
you just facade
tera normal?
very few things take guts boosted facade from ursa, ghost or water
usually ghost
you dont need coverage on everything
yeah I was wondering if ursa was a defensive tera
Lunala has good synergy with it
moongeist can serve as coverage
Not slow enough anymore
You want iron hands or regular ursaluna
the team right?
i am running some spice so beware
yes
I'll just send a screenshot
guys i have question if a pokemon is good or no
the gen 5 dark fight lizard man with pants idk what he is called in english. is he good? its my favorite pokemon
The WHAT
scrafty?
the one tthat doest say OTS
its not good rn
there are not many non-legendaries that see play. They need to have strong abilities or redirection. Incineroar/rillaboom/amoonguss are the top 3 viable ones
the non legendaries are like, rilla and incin lol
theres more but
those are the main 2
Amoonguss is on so many teams rn
Foongus amoonguss
is galar meowth good?
why are you cloak CIR
i was going to change it
but for fake-out purposes
the goal is to trick room with cir
Drago you need Help on this situation?
Hard TR is in a weird spot rn more people are leaning towards teams that can do trick room and tailwind
while decorating with the alcremie
nah lowkey lunala cir is good
youâll need a redirection pokĂ©mon for sure
id suggest either going mirai lunala or mirai CIR personally
indeedee sets up psychic terrain for lunala
Lunala CIR feels iffy
Yup indeedee is the answer here plus the terrain means you donât need cloak
trick room miraidon??
Miraidon as Enabler
miraidon sets eterrain to prevent spores
trick room miraidon has been a thing since the firet reg G tourney lol
its not a tr sweeper but it nukes things before it goes up or after it goes down
135 base speed is throwing me off
its Tailroom
A lot of those lunalas are actually fast on miraidon teams
ah
tail room is included in trick room
Not in this case
you go trick room against faster mons like caly shadow and korai, tailwind against midspeeds and just outseed the ylower trick rooms putting the burden on them to set trick room, at which point you can just switch out into calyrex
alchremy is the weaker part on the team compared to lunala as a restricted pair for cir tho
@next stump you see this shit Jeudy going on about the competitors kits?
https://pokepast.es/f706417f56a6f722
anyways uh, funny team imma share
Might be a better idea to do urshifu-R with coaching
what lmao
Naic tomorrow
tang gang
Or even smeargle with coaching
no
yeah thatâs gotta be a troll
Huh
This is actually a very cool team
ikr
don't ask me what the pagos spread does I just did slider = funny, the others I at least know where to go from lol
EP oevr Dpulse on Pagos
you basically walled by Zamazenta
pagos likely doesn't come that matchup tbh, I need pulse for csr
Eh idt its bad
Like Dozogiri already destroys Zamazenta
And Miraidon chips it very decently even with AV
also soak + edrift will guaranteed ko any zama idc
How has the Sinistcha felt?
Tera'd Tera Starstorm already hits everyting for Neutral so nope
you don't need Pulse unless you play Specs
you do if you struggle with csr lol
clearly not lol
I suck at the team but its felt good for me, on the og team pagos mirai sinis incin is the main broken core too so Id keep it
But the purpose of dpulse is killing CSR xd
Not chip with tera starstorm
To which also the encore disable CSR kinda invalidates pagos
by the same logic earth power is redundant too
starstorm hits zama neutral anyways so why even run ep
Hmm okay okay
meanwhile both dozo giri and sinistcha deal with zama really well
But yeah I think the team actually looks cool
zama can wide guard tho
boo hoo lol, thats like never an issue tbh
I mean usually pagos is only terad later into the game
and I usually don't just let it sit in front of zama, unless I jist target the partner and rage powder the body press
Unless they pull the classic âdestroy your terrain/weatherâ on turn 1
What happens if they tera? Ya can't use soak 
What is this? Mormon Pokemon?
ayo lowkey worst case scenario I can soak the zama so it doesn't resist starstorm
It won't resist either way if you tera pagos
why are we using soak�
oh-
i thought it ran draco icy muddy water and pump-
I thought so too
help
Might need to leave miraidon behind đ
Yup thatâs when you say bye miraidon
god bless your soul
Also why I like ditto on that team instead of incin
mirai is kinda carrying me here lmao
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between 65a45t5677 and eriksp! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2025 Reg I; Date: Jun 12, 2025
The Tera fairy dazzling for sure
I play Tera electric so I wouldâve had to leave mine most likely
Go on my minions spread this team on ladder
bro channels inner technoblade
dark fight lizard man w/ pants is a certified classic

Lmao
Would be a good nickname tbh
could u fit all of that? if so fs
PFFT
Oh def not

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Volt switch good
Best Tera type for rayquaza?
I would say normal to abuse espeed but fire could also be good to stop will o wisp and also resist ice and fairy
Normal
First game in a week I lose to Tera ground earthquake ho-oh
When the ho is oh
What the Ho oh
what the haliburton
What the heliolisk
What the hipopotas
For anyone attending NAIC tomorrow

lol
is trick room not very common in singles 6v6 formats?
does ability shield let intimidate work on pokemon with clear am
is there a good place/video/anything to step up my team building and understanding of competitive in general, I feel like that's too ambiguous a question but I think there are some serious hang ups I have with pvp that I want to try and overcome
You can always ask questions here and people will help but I know thatâs not always the best
Thereâs stuff in the pinned messages as well that can help
Its better to just comprehend the format you are playing and I think the best way is watching top players of that format and the top teams
I assume you are interested in singles so ig content creators like pokeaim are the best options
I donât think Iâve watched a VGC video in like 4 months
I guess one of my bigger problems is I just try to generalize too much with teams and don't focus on specific formats nearly enough
i put wolfey on in the background a lot
I put Clash Royale videos on in the background
Yeah that's a problem
Each format is different, I don't know a lot about singles but I think there are also some people on twitter that post like usage stats for each month for formats like OU
And also the usual smogon discussion sites that help to know
But the usual to analyze a meta game is defined in just 2 questions for me
- What is good?
- Why is it good?
I think that second part is where I falter
When I see a pokemon performing well I just think of the stats and moves and ability it's using and not the circumstances that lead to its popularity or who it's partnered with too much
That's normal when you are just starting, pokemon is a game with a lot of flexibility so perfectly a new tech or something can pop off and not everybody will know why is it good
I think I'm less a beginner and more just not dedicated enough to it because I keep falling out of pvp for like half a year at a time
So yeah the best advive I could give you to comprehend the second question is asking people more experienced in the format
For my experience in VGC there were a lot of things I didn't know at first but then people explained it and you kinda just catch up on the metagame
I think my current prefered format is battle stadium doubles
Thatâs VGC !
!!!
How convenient
Yeah so tomorrow or actually in like just 9 hours NAIC (North América International) starts and its streamed
I've heard Calyrex Ice is sort of the biggest hitter right now
If you have time and want you can watch the top players play there and understand in a more deep way how they play and why
If you don't want you can just see the results of the tournament once its over
Yeah its one of the top threats
I hope Groudon wins it all đ„đ„
it didn't occur to me until just now that I never actually watch top players battle and only ever just look at the teams they've made
If it did I would actually pop off so hard
Too bad he ainât even top cutting đ
i always hope for zac but im expecting a CSR Zama win tbh
If a Groudon makes it far at NAIC it will be with Jumpluff sorry Conner
idt it has won lol
nah bro kyogre groudon
fs
/jk
cosmog
Better worse than nothing
true
has Groudon ever risen to the same success rate as it did during gen 6 with primal before or after
Just use Urshifu
Not even close
Nah
I donât think itâs been in the semis all of Gen 9
groudon has been quite mid this gen
wasn't kyogre common at one point in gen 8
it was good in gen 8 but its, not great now
zacogre was dominant
Yeah
Until they make another water type rain setter with water spout
Which they ainât doing
has there already been a 2 restricted pokemon format for gen 9
eh
no this is and should be the only one
unless we get another year of vgc in SC
Champions would probably take over?
For the remake of SV in 10 years where the add Iron Storm the paradox of Koraidon that sets rain and gets a SpA boost by being in rain
depends what we see in, uh, idk lmao
its one of the best restricted in history
aw hell nah
That would actually be dope
no, no it wouldnt
im already scared of tera water primal kyogre
It's kind of weird to me that they sort of repeated Groudon's problem with its weather when they made Koraidon
Primal Kyogre can't Tera in showdown
No stab yeah
that doesnt mean it wont be able to in champions
I canât wait for Gen 10 when Groudon is better than Koraidon
Groudon has always worked more like as an enabler than sun being what gives it its full potential
yea
These new kids have it too nice with being able to Tera out of a quad weakness
Historically that's what his sun is for
groudon was strong in gen 8 cuz it enables gigantamax charizard really well
We love Gmax Zard
it's an interesting world we live in when Torkoal can uses its ability more offensively than the legendary that created the continents
Jumpluff, Hearthflame, paradox, Charizard
Well he made the ground not the sun
has there been any news about pokemon champions since it was announced
Nope
we'll get something with the next pokemon direct, i hope
They will most likely show more in the pokemon presents
istg if they dont man
lmfao
would you prefer champions have all the different gen gimicks rolled into one, or have different formats that incorporate each one and then a bonus format that disables all of them
its gonna be BIG
(itll be 15 minutes long show us new updates and then nothing else)
I would prefer that the gimmicks rotate in and out
Like one format with tera, one with megas, one with z moves
idt we should have multiple at the same time
And then maybe start combining them
at least like
But ig they will only let you use one gimmick per battle
I hope that it has a built in casual mode so people can just battle friends and host their own tournaments
if they do dont do it in a restricted format
Like if you tera you can't mega evolve
also even Pokemon company knows that will be bad for the game
like why would you want to tera+Change forms
but, then i cant tera water primal kyogre
i rather split the gimmick for each pokemon
(i dont need this to exist)
I hope they forget to add Tera to champions
(its just a funny concept)
I hate Tera so much
dynamax was my favorite gimmick so far for battling
i jsut need a break from tera
Tera just have reverse effect on Groudon lol
Thatâs what Iâm saying
rare dynamax enjoyer i see
It doesnât help him at all
I do think
Dynamax was sick
fuck dynamax
That tera gives some toxic 50/50s
Z moves were the best though
Like the fucking mind games of Hands vs Ursaluna shit
I like knowing that my moves will do damage
I just have an optimistic view on dynamax I think, and I'm also probably a little biased because I think the online mode in sw/sh was far superior to s/v
zac vs mirai is a headache at times
I never played competitively with any other gimmicks but I know Tera is my least favourite
i'd like to play rough freely
Never click blade
i dont but still
me when Miraidon barely did not OHKO CIR:
it kills the not bulky ones
Yeah
Or fucking Treads dude
I just hate Tera
Treads lives for being a 50/50 machine
Terrible competitive gimmick
its ok
Tera is fine imo
but i want smth else and i hope gen 10 has a cool gimmick
gimmock
I like tera tbh I just find 50/50s annoying
Z-Moves feels boring
real
Mega is so overtuned
I liked Z moves
i'd like to experience megas but im not exactly looking forward to mega khangaskhan
Ion like that thing
Iâd rather that than Fairy CSR
my beloved mega in comp
do you tink there will ever be a pokemon game where all the major battles in the story are double battles
probably not
Probably not
we got that for the indigo disk dlc
which was fun but didnt appeal to singles players
You bring that dragon and I am bringing something else like mega swampert 
No more dlc Restrictedsđ
No now buy the dlc to get a Groudon
I have one shamillion Groudons already
ultra sun and moon had the right idea, buy the same game to get all the legendaries
Give me my red orb back
No
i want intrepid sword to revert back to gen 8
Deal
i can pivot again lmao
Give me Celesteela and alolan Marowak
if champions regularly updates the game that be lit
I need a non restricted wide guard user that is not Pelipper
I love Alolan Marowak
like per gen patch notes fucking sucks lmao
Or Iron Valiant
marowak gets wide guard?
No but Celesteela does
oh, makes sense
And Marowak could cook Miraidon with tera fairy
is Gallade a possibility
Celesteela, the original leech seeder
oh no
So you dont have to run Rhydon to counter Miraidon lol
leech seed celesteela and CIR
Nah its too slow
I mean its good for like psyspam hard TR teams
that sounds like a miserable meta to play into
But outside of that is meh
Give me mega Volcarona
I get the impression Wide Guard Mienshao isn't going to pop off?
This one is the other mon that could solve the format
and ferrothorn nah im good lmfao
but that mon would be solid rn
cant believe it can almost ohko koraidon just cuz it hit it
It could maybe
Mienshao is cool
It was a good mon for reg G but I'm not sure how to implement it in reg I
Wide guard + smacks around Incin
i think its jsut not enough in reg i
the only other options faster than Gallade is Hitmonlee and Flamigo for Wide Guard
Like that one Kendrick song
i wish wide guard users had more options but i dont at the same time
i think it has limited options for a reason lol
I like that inner focus is viable on most pokemon that get it now
its only good users are just 3 lol
4 if you count hitmon
well I guess a lot of the pokemon that get it do have better abilities
wut
wut
oh NAIC standings ic
Just built this eternatus terapagos team, and it looks pretty alright, for me: about: https://pokepast.es/c0d5dedd8c7f3363 any thoughts?
feels a bit too offensive for a Eternapagos
would recommend Screens since it helps survivability,Meteor Beam Etern is solid imo
I was gonna use it, but then I noticed the team struggled against zamazenta, and flamethroer deals a lot to it
i dont have issue
if i am being real
eternatus Hard walls Zama that even with +1 Dynamax Cannon on it you still outlive it
especially Speed Control would help against Zama

I tried it and its only 12-5
i also made eternapagos out of boredom
@next stump @chrome knot GOOD LUCK
THANK YOU
TY
@next stump @chrome knot good luck you two! I'll be checking in on you later!
Gonna cut out of work early today. Considering an offer for a promotion. Today is my 7th day on the job. 
Good luck Dillon and Venus!
Good luck Dillon and em!! 
GOTTA CATCH EM ALL MOTHAFUCAHHH
North America International Championships is starting really soon!
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bo1 cts ladder techs the second i start using volcarona:
What is this fucking fever dream
@bold geode keep me posted on Dillon and Emma if you can. I'm leaving work in about 2 hours.
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Word
Goodluck you two yall got this
THE MAN PATCON
Honestly I wonder what Wolfe is running
Wondering if he's still running Korai Lunala
CC HORSE
Switch 2 stream?
No TR horse
for sure
Huh so switch 2 is allowed after all
Simone has his foot on the gas rn
Nah
They're definitely doing it just for stream matches
Bro just saw a tw mirai and was like âfuck scouting choice move ima just hit itâ
Ah okay
1-0
FUCK YEAH GIRL
Pog
yeah astral kills here no matter what
played the mirror vs JPN player
woah
Well done
I see
Kathy?
wat
Howâs she doing
Easy pin right there
O
wait that Yuki?
yes
GL on that

Scary
oof
it was kinda mickey g1&2
no mickey mouse clubhouse
Oh that easy huh
Simone played that pretty well
no that weâre dumb asl playing for insane hard calls
g1 i bpâd csr expecting tera & lost, g2 he bpâd csr for same and lost
g3 i cooked tho
Oh
So same shit we did into each other lol
Good job :)

nope
My WiFi is dying :)
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i hate inceniroar
istg if it works its auto win
if not suffer
If they guess you wonât Tera
Ruh roh
boo hoo
dont worry
i have a new meta threat on the teaem
enamorus therian
ultimate wild card
252+ Atk Tera Water Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Enamorus-Therian in Rain on a critical hit: 168-198 (92.8 - 109.3%) -- 50.6% chance to OHKO
There's a lot of things I'd call Enamorus, but I don't think ultimate wildcard is among them 
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they even made the reference lmao
i just name it the fake forces of nature
I call it "flutter mane at home"
the only flutter mane at home is Sylveon imo lol
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Sylveon fills other roles than "special fairy attacker", whereas Enamorus really has no other applications or niche
Emma and Dillon 1-0
LET'S GOOO
let me give it a shot
wwhat miraidon set is this?
i just did 55% to a miradion
with guts eq on ursaaluna??
Reflect+Tera fairy?
probably specs with some bulk
i did the calcs
it'd have to be 252 hp 252 defense to live that
did you add the spread damage nerf?
i didnt see that toption
let me check
Has next round stream started yet
not yet
DOUBLE BIKE ALERT
YOO DOUBLE BIKE THIS IS PEAK
Double bike scovillian and chesnaught
I want whatever Michael Zhang is on
its so peak
Iâm excited to see how this plays out
its just Bikes Hypercarry if i am being real
Is this the same guy that brought the Rhydon to Milwaukee
You could literally do bikes + 4 flex picks
@strange juniper help idk what Michael smokes but I want it 
How many full paras was that
4
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4 out of 5 turns đ
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Horses fall to ice
Yeah ESM
So update on Michael Zhang for comp chat here
So I had a friend who lost to Michael on SD this morning before NAIC and they pulled up replays
So some other considerations for team members are as follows
Iron Crown
Metagross
And most importantly
Mandibuzz
Brute Bonnet now and Ursaluna with Korai Lunala for Wolfe hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Dillon is going against Emilio Forbes
DILLON NAME ON STREAM
isn't Emilio Forbes the 2018 Worlds Finalist?
252+ Atk Guts Ursaluna Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Tera-Fairy Miraidon: 109-130 (62.2 - 74.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
yea
252+ Atk Guts Ursaluna Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Tera-Fairy Miraidon: 88-105 (42.5 - 50.7%) -- 1.95% chance to 2HKO
Probably some bulk in combination of HP and defense and you just got a middling roll of 55%
252+ Atk Guts Ursaluna Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 20 Def Tera-Fairy Miraidon: 109-129 (52.6 - 62.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252/20 seems pretty likely
Just expect to 2-hit Tera fairy Mirai if it still has a partner on the board
Yes Emilio is very good
What was MDB's Amoongus set?
i think its still standard
Monke we literally had that discussion on it
mdb đ
micahel maybe brough both restrict this time
2-1
Nice, keep er goin
you got this hun
Spicy and Yotam are both 1-2 rn
Emma 2-1
Dillon still playing
Wolfe Glick is also still playing for you Wolfe fans
keep it upp you got this
it was at 65%
@lofty tartan here's your update right this second
i see
Landorus tried his best guys
You said you did 55% 
50%
Good shit
Okay so I was going by what you said here. lol
So if it was at 65% did you do 45% or 50% because all of your information is sorta conflicting now.
Was probably sort of bulky and you just didn't account for doubles reducing the damage of spread moves. Some damage calculators force you to enable the feature. đ€·
đ„ today man. Get 'em 
I'm home now btw.

He's cooking chat
Every time I see this emote, I think of the one time you addressed me as commander boobs
A commander of things forever out of your reach 
i love that saying
why is volc good rn?
i thought iron moth was an upgrade?
good defensive typing, strong redirector and nice damage mitigation with struggle bug
i guess loss of quiver dance wasnt good
oh
so it's more of a tank build now
I'm surprised I ain't see more Single Strike
@foggy lodgedid you get the code? i forgot to screen shot
- Wolfey vs Wolfey lol
- Wolfey what the fuck is that team
The Incin code? Yeah fs
if you cant beat him clone him ig
Let me search it
You sux
hey red
hey torrent
U first
hri doing now
you want my npc answer or the real answer on how im doing
up to you
im doing okay (npc answer)
we already have an NPC in this chat honestly
weegeecee
is it dollar
DARK TERA ZAMAZENTA
Real
yes no
lmao
Oh you especially
Nils Zam Ogre?
I didn't see this round, I'll have to go back
still going on
Why shower when u can get water spouted by Kyogre
Astral barrage
You seen that too right
Hang on! Give your best!
YOTAM ON STREAM
Stimky 
X-2 to 6-2 you can still do it 
You still got this honey keep fucking going
:( hugs

2-3 is still impressive! Great work! You'll do better next time!
respectfully please fuck offđđđđ
NPC moment
Sorry
Not to be rude, but there are right and wrong times for encouragement
My boy Cayden no
he's dead
Nah WE BELIEVE
Everyone watch this shit
Take notes
This match is finna be insane
ATTENTION LADIES AND GENTS AND EVERYTHING ELSE
I wanna take a moment to just say something
CONGRATS
TO @next stump FOR EARNING THE WORLDS INVITE
HELL YEAH LET'S GOOOOOOOOO
Lets gooo






