#competitive_discussion

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molten oasis
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oh lovely, that one's interesting but

foggy lodge
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Isn't perish like

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Actually a way to kill stall

molten oasis
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still, this is probably not a half bad format for perish tbh, seeing the direction its going. yea

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you need 3 turns stall needs a lot more

foggy lodge
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The only problem is Miraidon

solid frigate
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and for my sanity sake

I am not using Perish team cuz its not for me lol

foggy lodge
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But Wolfey played around arubega Mirai very well with perish

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So there's probably linea against it

solid frigate
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they just have to pray its not Lunala

foggy lodge
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Ah well yeah

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Lunala and CSR are bad for perish

solid frigate
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i could make a perish team but its gonna be hyper specific and with me maining Miraidon too much, its hard

molten oasis
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im not touching perish or stall

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neither benefit zacian Wolfe_Hello

solid frigate
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beaten 2 Miraidon Bulk Teams (Mirai Nala and Mirai CIR Leech Seed)

bold geode
spiral ridge
spiral ridge
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i knew i was gonna end up on a balance team again so yeah

molten oasis
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And ACTUALLY test that

bold geode
bold geode
chrome knot
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kills you

bold geode
molten oasis
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why would i pick zacian to explode things when theres miraidon or a calyrex or kyogre (ig)

foggy lodge
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or groudon 🙂

solid frigate
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i think i know why MKW has an 80 Dollar Price tag

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i'll let you guys guess

molten oasis
foggy lodge
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Because Nintendo is greedy af

molten oasis
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at least kyogre has water spout lol

foggy lodge
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I got a shiny P2 lol

molten oasis
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nice

foggy lodge
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I just wanted to see one of the outbreaks and it spawned

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Btw Porygon2 outbreaks event

solid frigate
foggy lodge
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I'm considering using P2 CSR Pagos

molten oasis
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why shadow rider?

solid frigate
foggy lodge
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Yeah

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Its the natural CSR Pagos team

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But P2 adds the TR mode for Pagos which is nice

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And just the rest is supports

molten oasis
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ic

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hope you have fun with that, im back to now knowing what to play lol

foggy lodge
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I expect Zacogre to do well at NAIC tbh

rustic mountain
foggy lodge
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So I think there will be things to test after that

rustic mountain
molten oasis
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thats not exactly what i meant i meant with zacian

rustic mountain
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ik wat u meant

molten oasis
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8ball told me it was wise to drop thundy

chrome flower
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would anyone like to practice battle with my?

rustic mountain
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we takin teambuilding advice from rotom now?

chrome flower
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me*

molten oasis
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wha?

rustic mountain
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8ball is rotom

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wat is confusing about wat i asked

foggy lodge
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Do we think that Zacian can top cut worlds this time like past year or nah

rustic mountain
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no

molten oasis
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idk man, i went on a couple loss straks tilted and just, idk

foggy lodge
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Cuz I actually think Zacian is worse for this format than reg G

rustic mountain
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it is

molten oasis
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no probably not, zacogre is good but not good enough. wha?

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how is it worse it has kyogre

rustic mountain
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cuz everything else got better

solid frigate
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?8ball Should i use MiraiOgre in EU Collab Tour tmr

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i forgot the commands

rustic mountain
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-8ball ask the question

gentle cragBOT
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ask the question
:8ball: It is decidedly so

molten oasis
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so regidrago zacian is better than zacogre

solid frigate
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-8ball Should i use Mirai Ogre in my EU Collab Tour Tmr

gentle cragBOT
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Should i use Mirai Ogre in my EU Collab Tour Tmr
:8ball: Better not tell you now

molten oasis
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is basically what im hearing (i think)

solid frigate
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-8ball Tell me now

gentle cragBOT
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Tell me now
:8ball: Outlook not so good

solid frigate
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damn it-

foggy lodge
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-8ball does Ho-Oh top cut worlds this year

solid frigate
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-8ball Should i use Miraidon in my EU Collab tour

gentle cragBOT
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Should i use Miraidon in my EU Collab tour
:8ball: Yes, definitely

foggy lodge
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damn

molten oasis
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ok time to shiny hunt ho-oh

foggy lodge
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Flabbergasted by the question couldn't even answer

solid frigate
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-8ball Should i use Kyogre in my EU Collab Tour

gentle cragBOT
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Should i use Kyogre in my EU Collab Tour
:8ball: You may rely on it

solid frigate
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ok Mirai Ogre time again-

solid frigate
rustic mountain
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moreso like, csr having a partner now or miraidon having a partner now and the like still means zacian is outclassed despite having an objectively better partner in kyogre. wen the strength increases overall, some things tend to get even less useable because they have even more to contend with. zacian fits into that

molten oasis
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i, dont feel that way but, ok

foggy lodge
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Dexit síndrome basically

rustic mountain
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sure ur also extremely bias towards zacian tho

molten oasis
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i've felt like zac actually gets to particiate in battles more this format

foggy lodge
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Like Wolfey said that when the pool is bigger is actually smaller

bold geode
foggy lodge
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Zacian didn't have like a bad MU into most things

molten oasis
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ik im biased but idt it was better in reg g, one incin made it really hard to bring its not like that now

bold geode
rustic mountain
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yea i just dont think thats the case, if i ever see zacian im jumpin for joy for the freelo its just not as threatening or as good a choice as any of the other top 5 guys

molten oasis
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thats never been the case

rustic mountain
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top 7 even i think i have zacian at 8 or 9 best atm

bold geode
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Zacian is on the good Mon list now

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So I can't doubt it

foggy lodge
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Miraidon was a good MU for it, Ice Rider was equal I think, CSR wasn't equal but nor unwinnable, Koraidon was a bad MU for sure, Zama and pagos were 50/50 if not favorable to Zac

molten oasis
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ice rider was bad

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cuz the ice rider would always tera and tr on you

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and fire was very common

foggy lodge
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CIR teams were very varied so I believe it

molten oasis
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thats also fair

foggy lodge
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The Tangs team was bad against Zac but other teams were good into it

molten oasis
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it was worse if it was CIR incin

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i think CIR Mirai is a spot zac is still good in

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but it definitely just doesnt like CSR much

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ho-oh existing is annoying for it, zama CSR sucks for it it explodes, uh, mirai lunala is just a hard wall to break

rustic mountain
# bold geode Zacian is on the good Mon list now

idt its bad but it got worse to me this format. as bad as single restricted was u could patch holes a lot easier and only had to contend w/ 1 restricted on the opposing side, having 2 now and zacians inability to enable itself effectively or any of its teammates means its so much less flexible wen ur bringing it into games. 1 switch or intimidate and ur restricted hits like a wet noodle

molten oasis
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maybe it is worse

foggy lodge
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I think Farig can quite solve it

molten oasis
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solve what?

foggy lodge
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You don't let CIR get TR up by just fake out Zac and TR

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And Farig helps against CSR

molten oasis
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i've also found tailroom to be really awkward with zacian, which is where i usually see fari

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mostly the tr mode

foggy lodge
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Hm

molten oasis
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i also suck at playing tailroom but it still feels clunky

foggy lodge
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Hands Amoonguss

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I'm still a fan of Zac Ditto

molten oasis
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fckn hate ditto

foggy lodge
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Even tho I don't think Ditto is that good nos

bold geode
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Ditto is ass

rustic mountain
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yea id lean more onto the offensive strengths of ur team, idt its really for having tr on since u dont have a tr mode to help balance it

bold geode
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Always ass

molten oasis
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the one time i was like

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tailroom is okay was on lunala zac but that duo has so many holes

rustic mountain
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its really only for specific teams and players that can utilize it effectively

molten oasis
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i am not that person

foggy lodge
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Ditto is good as long as you don't copy a Ho-Oh

molten oasis
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im the person to copy the ho-oh

rustic mountain
bold geode
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Bro doesn't believe in Ho Oh

rustic mountain
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why should he

foggy lodge
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And I will never

molten oasis
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lol

bold geode
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Y'all still tripping on thet

rustic mountain
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nah man

molten oasis
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its not a good mon it just had a time to shine due to it filling a good niche

foggy lodge
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Calling it rn Ho-Oh is not top cutting neither NAIC or Worlds

rustic mountain
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ho oh had its time, i think we saw the best results for it

bold geode
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I hope Ho Oh wins Worlds just so I can give you a fat middle finger

rustic mountain
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sure

molten oasis
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ok

bold geode
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For Max not you Tree

molten oasis
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lmao

rustic mountain
bold geode
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I see that Guts profile
I heard the tales

molten oasis
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uh, yea idk its hard to not do zacogre cuz they pair so well with eachother and its like

rustic mountain
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guts story vegetaPain

molten oasis
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patching holes on zacnala is miserable, and zacmirai is weird

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idt zac mirai is inheriently bad but it hates the concept of tr ursa

rustic mountain
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im not saying kyogre isnt the best partner for zacian im moreso saying i think zacian is worse off now

bold geode
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God why do there gotta be a Muk Smeargle mfer in this tournament I'm hosting

rustic mountain
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always is

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same thing w/ chansey/shuckle in swsh

molten oasis
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well it always will be

bold geode
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Timing out my tournament

molten oasis
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zac would need its ability back to get enough power to combat imo

rustic mountain
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some ppl dont wanna play or learn the game differently

molten oasis
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so it can actually reposition and keep its boost

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not that i want that for zama

bold geode
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One of the reasons why I approve of Scarf Lando + Rain
You just fuck up Muk Smeargle

rustic mountain
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yea ud have to give it both it just sucks

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cuz it has such a good defensive typing

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and is great for pivoting

bold geode
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Yes please

molten oasis
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it just, cant

rustic mountain
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but u just dont wanna do that

bold geode
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Give me back that pre Zam

foggy lodge
bold geode
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Actually
Nah don't

foggy lodge
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Like heavy slam sandsear

bold geode
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Mfer didn't have Body Press

rustic mountain
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yea

molten oasis
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that would have been nuts

bold geode
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Bro deadass that wasn't why I put it there but I found it out and was like hell yeah

molten oasis
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eh actually idk, idk how strong zama would have ended up in gen 8 with body press

rustic mountain
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idk y they gave us zama w/o body press ever but yea

foggy lodge
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And the move was created in the same gen

rustic mountain
molten oasis
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probably fairly strong but not zacian levels of strong

bold geode
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Yeah lemme switch out Zam and keep my Def boost

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I'd fuck everyone up

foggy lodge
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One would think it was because they thought it would be too broken but they gave swords dance to Zac soooo

molten oasis
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lmfao

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and sacred sword

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which is just solid coverage

rustic mountain
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sd zacian kinda sucks rn tho

foggy lodge
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Yea

molten oasis
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?

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eh, yea no you're right

foggy lodge
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But in the context for gen 8 it was crazy

molten oasis
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i use it cuz its just nice into screens teams

rustic mountain
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plz tell me how often u are getting sd value

molten oasis
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into screen teams and thats it

rustic mountain
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yea

molten oasis
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also punishing incin ig, but that doesnt happen cuz people wuss out of taking incin into kyogre

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which is valid but still

rustic mountain
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im built different

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i generally always bring incin into zacogre

molten oasis
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oh no ik you would the people i fight dont and i always expect it to go

rustic mountain
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yea

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it can be kinda weird but usually u dont want zacian to keep that +1

molten oasis
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yea

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zacian matches are like, remove incin or remove 2 mons

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or go gamble and hope they dont nerf the dog (they will)

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mm, sucks not knowing what to play rn im just kinda bored.

rustic mountain
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im still on break

molten oasis
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zac is fun but, idk

rustic mountain
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been a nice cppl weeks ngl

molten oasis
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may just stop for the format tbh

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like, not trying too hard to do anything just here and there playing

rustic mountain
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yea im mostly doing that

foggy lodge
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Me too

rustic mountain
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atleast for now, i just dont really care enough rn im still keeping up but this formats kinda mid

molten oasis
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im not looking to improve in this format

foggy lodge
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I just don't like the format too much

molten oasis
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its not that fun

foggy lodge
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I prefer watching people playing it

molten oasis
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i need smth new and this feels like reg g 3.0

foggy lodge
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Genuinely excited for NAIC

molten oasis
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we just let you use 2

rustic mountain
foggy lodge
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Asian players always cook

rustic mountain
molten oasis
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I WANT REG H SO BAD

foggy lodge
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REG H??

molten oasis
rustic mountain
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same

molten oasis
foggy lodge
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Actually reg H wasn't that bad

molten oasis
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i didnt like it (cuz i didnt appreciate it) but like

foggy lodge
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But still I prefer reg G

rustic mountain
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ppl were so harsh on reg h for no reason

foggy lodge
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Or reg F

molten oasis
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at least it was fun this format is not fun to play

rustic mountain
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reg f was cool reg g 1 was solid reg g 2 was not

foggy lodge
rustic mountain
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i loved it

foggy lodge
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Valid

molten oasis
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like wow you clicked leech seed and now i get to watch you spam protect like

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that fckn sucks to play into

foggy lodge
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But personally it was a change too big

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I like formats with variety

molten oasis
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i also think my taste for that format was ruined when archapeli just steamrolled the first month or so

foggy lodge
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Reg H and G had it

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Reg I doesn't

bold geode
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Gimme back Reg F

molten oasis
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and then sneasler picked up, that mons annoying

rustic mountain
molten oasis
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otherwise a9 was meta and that was lit

rustic mountain
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yea

foggy lodge
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Nah Archaludon was broken

molten oasis
bold geode
foggy lodge
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Brother won like 5 regionals I think??

rustic mountain
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did it?

molten oasis
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yea

foggy lodge
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Baltimore, two in EU, Toronto

molten oasis
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archapeli was really good

rustic mountain
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i think reg i has decent variety, format still sucks tho

foggy lodge
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Well it has variety but like

molten oasis
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its okay variety but its genuinely really difficult to get results with not the main top 7 restrictecds

foggy lodge
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Its super stale and compared to reg G I don't see too much innovation

rustic mountain
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its early still

foggy lodge
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I think I said it before but if the biggest innovation of the format is putting leech seed on a Calyrex then it is stale xd

molten oasis
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NAIC better cook (toxic pagos and stall eternatus)

rustic mountain
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hell no

molten oasis
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i meaaannn, i could see it with the direction some of the format is goin in

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someone did well with toxic pagos

rustic mountain
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i do not wanna watch that shit

molten oasis
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same

foggy lodge
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Neil got top 1 on sd ladder yeah

molten oasis
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thats boring as hell

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those mirrors would be miserable watches

foggy lodge
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And I had the coolest idea of toxic P2 cuz ohhh it beats the pagos and CIR

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And then I realized they took it away from it

molten oasis
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lmao

foggy lodge
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Like yeah GF thanks for giving toxic to PAGOS??? But not P2

rustic mountain
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this aint gen 7

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not every other mon gets toxic

molten oasis
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i do think after playing through a double restricted format, i like formats with the legends but not the restricteds

foggy lodge
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Why does pagos gets toxic and no other poison type move I don't know

molten oasis
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reg f was awesome, e was ok. d was bad cuz shifu was really hard to deal with

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or more, annoying, tornshifu was nuts reg d

rustic mountain
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harc was putting up jordan numbers

molten oasis
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harc honestly might be my favorite like

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surprise meta pick, i thought harc was hella mid

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initially

rustic mountain
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i didnt think itd be good

molten oasis
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then it, like regularly beat lando t in usage right?

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ik in reg e it was the prominent intimidator

foggy lodge
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ohhh imagine telling a vgc time traveler than Lando-T now sees 0 usage at high level of tournaments

molten oasis
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lmfao

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"yea man, lando i gets all the usage now"

rustic mountain
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"heatran and lando t will be niche picks"

foggy lodge
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Cresselia and Lando-T have 0 usage, Heatran is niche and Kangaskhan and Aegislash are no longer in the game

molten oasis
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cress got a new awesome move, has no usage

foggy lodge
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lol

molten oasis
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cress got taken over by a giraffe

foggy lodge
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And I believed on the Zama Cresselia team

molten oasis
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that we thought was bad in the beginning

foggy lodge
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Biggest fraud I've seen

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And I falled for it

molten oasis
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cress ursa was a huge fraud too

foggy lodge
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Eh it was good for reg D? I think

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Got top 4 at worlds

molten oasis
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reg d it was okay it fell off later on

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like hard, oh right reg e was fari blursa thats why

foggy lodge
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I can't say too much I didn't play that format

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I hardly remember even something about reg E

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And I started playing there

molten oasis
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i remember ogerpon was there

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yea thats, thats kinda it lol

foggy lodge
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I just remember the tera dragon dengo for the Ogerpons

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Rilla Shifu Harc Dengo Tornadus

molten oasis
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oh that format was where tw moon balance picked up

foggy lodge
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THE WEEZING NERF

molten oasis
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lmfao

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man cmon that would be nuts rn

rustic mountain
foggy lodge
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Do you know that if that nerd didn't exist

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Miraidon and Koraidon could set its abilities with Weezing

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Without needing ability shield

molten oasis
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that is why i think the nerf is fine

rustic mountain
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the nerf wen it happened sucked but as times gone on its prolly better they did it then

molten oasis
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mirai weezing sounds so annoying

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like, nice terrain control, thats gone now

rare pumice
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I was going to ask if Clodsire is struggling right now but given the two horses in the room as well as Ursaluna I think the answer is a little too obvious

foggy lodge
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But it was crazy I think even some regionals already happened before the nerf and Weezing Moon balance did well

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So they literally killed the archetype

molten oasis
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clodsire has historically been quite bad unfortunately

rustic mountain
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yea unfortunately even b4 all those guys clodsire struggled to ever find a place, i think its much better in singles

foggy lodge
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Clodsire can OHKO Miraidon

rare pumice
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very disheartening

foggy lodge
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Is the best it can do

molten oasis
foggy lodge
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Other than funny calcs nothing else

tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 980: Clodsire
Types

Poison/Ground

Abilities

Poison Point, Water Absorb, Unaware (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

130/75/60/45/100/20

Total

430

molten oasis
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how?

foggy lodge
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Choice band

rustic mountain
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friendly reminder iron hands can ko mega beedrill w/ fake out

foggy lodge
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Idk a Clodsire OHKOd my Miraidon on ladder one time

tiny karmaBOT
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Clodsire's moveset:
Physical Moves

Body Press, Body Slam, Bulldoze, Counter, Dig, Double Kick, Double-Edge, Earthquake, Facade, Giga Impact, Gunk Shot, Heavy Slam, High Horsepower, Iron Head, Liquidation, Low Kick, Megahorn, Poison Jab, Poison Sting, Poison Tail, Rock Slide, Rock Tomb, Slam, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Tackle, Take Down, Trailblaze, Waterfall, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Acid Spray, Ancient Power, Chilling Water, Earth Power, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Mud Shot, Mud-Slap, Muddy Water, Sludge Bomb, Sludge Wave, Spit Up, Surf, Tera Blast, Venoshock, Water Pulse

Status Moves

After You, Amnesia, Curse, Endure, Haze, Helping Hand, Mist, Protect, Rain Dance, Recover, Rest, Sandstorm, Sleep Talk, Spikes, Stealth Rock, Stockpile, Substitute, Swallow, Tail Whip, Toxic, Toxic Spikes, Yawn

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Clodsire.

molten oasis
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so banded hhp

rustic mountain
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mirais are bulky now

foggy lodge
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Yeah

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It was Ceribelli's spread which wasn't too bulky

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I remember that Ceribelli said that his Mirai was considered a slow Mirai by the time of worlds

molten oasis
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252+ Atk Choice Band Clodsire High Horsepower vs. 44 HP / 4 Def Miraidon: 186-218 (102.7 - 120.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO good for it ig

foggy lodge
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For EUIC people played 12 speed Miraidon

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Lmao

molten oasis
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still aint getting usage lmao

foggy lodge
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Yeah

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Its just for funny calcs

rustic mountain
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well yea cuz it doesnt do anything

molten oasis
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tis just for the funnies

bold geode
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There was a slug at my door
Had to push it away just to be safe

molten oasis
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i wanna ohko a beedril in a mega format tho that would be so funny

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with fake out

rustic mountain
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thx for letting us know monke

bold geode
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Hey what if it's actually a snail

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Or the snail

rustic mountain
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idk

foggy lodge
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But yeah I was today years old when I discovered fake out hands can kill mega beedrill

bold geode
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Can't let it catch me dawg

rustic mountain
molten oasis
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you missed the night we talked and researched that

foggy lodge
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Imagine having to calc a way to make beedrill survive a fake out😭

molten oasis
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that was so funny

chrome knot
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how do i sun matchup

foggy lodge
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Ability shield tornadus rain dance wujuu

chrome knot
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without changing anything

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im not using garbage ngl

molten oasis
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idk what you're using

foggy lodge
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Fair lol

molten oasis
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and yea i agree peli is not good rn lol

rustic mountain
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peli was good for awhile

foggy lodge
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Yeah Pelipper kinda dogshit

dense latch
molten oasis
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was it? reg i? i never really saw it

chrome knot
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csr zam

rustic mountain
foggy lodge
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Tho I think Zama CSR with Pelipper and Ursh isn't bad

molten oasis
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uh, scarf CSR Wolfe_Hello

molten oasis
chrome knot
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ok sorry i asked bruh

molten oasis
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idk what the full team is

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like i'd assume for sun you pressure with CSR, but ig theres flutter, which sucks for the caly

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and zama doesnt wanna be infront of the koraidon

foggy lodge
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Isn't Chien-Pao CSR a good lead

bold geode
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The snail is just bullshit right

foggy lodge
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Well it depends on the sun

molten oasis
bold geode
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Imagine

molten oasis
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let it go ur fine

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is it approaching you?

chrome knot
foggy lodge
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If its sash CSR or sash Flutter or weezing dondozo kodaidon

bold geode
bold geode
molten oasis
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mm idk man you might be cooked

bold geode
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FUCK

rustic mountain
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i have a bit of a different csr/zama comp but usually lead zama (water tera) and csr to feign pressure then depending on their lead i try and remove the bigger threat either by protecting csr or switching (korai isnt going to cc a ghost slot as a swap to incin if thats favorable. hard to lab a mu w/ a team i dont use outside the restricted duo

bold geode
#

It was looking at me sideways cuzz

rustic mountain
chrome knot
#

ill dm team tree help me text chat vgc a little

molten oasis
#

fun talk, didnt help with team advice, imma go beat up spamton neo now

bold geode
molten oasis
#

lol, its a deltarune character btu i see that

astral kelp
#

wait what niesh does heatran have huh

solid frigate
#

niche or niesh-

little plank
#

Line was long as heck lol

solid frigate
# little plank

damn nice,i might save my money for it cuz ummmm

They made Rainbow Road Peak

little plank
#

Yeah was like 150 people in line I was like number 6 went early with my daughter

astral kelp
solid frigate
#

Niche

next stump
chrome knot
#

standin n shit

next stump
#

super excited for VGC to migrate over eventually

solid frigate
astral kelp
#

its my second language B)

#

i got an excuse

lean ridge
spiral ridge
#

man

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ting lu is just such an annoying typing

spiral ridge
little plank
chrome knot
spiral ridge
#

im about to SS it dw

chrome knot
#

phantom dive for 200

#

60 on your duskull

spiral ridge
#

what the freak whered duskull come from

chrome knot
#

and ill take 3 prize cards

spiral ridge
#

what the freak

chrome knot
#

yeah i mean

#

youre losing rn draw for turn

spiral ridge
#

idk tcg can i just play a pikachu card

next stump
#

yayyy got one

chrome knot
#

yayyyy

spiral ridge
#

nice dude

next stump
#

My gamestop had 70 extras for today and then who knows how many for preorders

#

pretty smooth rollout

chrome knot
#

i been stuck in line

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feet tired from worky, took injection so leg feels like punched

#

dying atm :3

chrome knot
#

took prog so im like

#

minutes away from shutting down

spiral ridge
#

uh oh

#

this is not good

chrome knot
#

:333

#

i might dieeeee

spiral ridge
#

lets not do that love

chrome knot
#

well i dont comtrol it

rare pumice
#

Is there anywhere in the game I can get a free ability capsule? And how many badges unlock them for purchase?

atomic mural
#

First in line 💪

molten oasis
#

Congrats

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I’m not trying I don’t need one

heady onyx
rare pumice
#

thank you

chrome knot
ocean timber
#

now I regret not standing outside for 7 hours

chrome knot
#

gigglin my ass off

solid frigate
#

PFFT

#

bro reported for you being good at the game

chrome knot
#

what no

#

wasn’t about me its just how funny of a lie this is

solid frigate
#

ah

left bobcat
#

NOOOOOO

chrome knot
#

@next stump lmk when u figure out what to do

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bc now even im unsure lmfao

next stump
#

A semi-trustable guy from my locals says that you can do a full data transfer from Switch 1 to Switch 2 and then do an individual Pokemon save transfer back from Switch 2 to Switch 1

#

IDK if I want to rely on that though because if I fuck it up then I gotta spend my next week grinding a new save hahaha

chrome knot
#

im gonna put my team on a different save just in case LMFAO

bold geode
#

@chrome knot spriggylobotomy

chrome knot
#

gm minke

strange juniper
#

if you guys are trying to transfer everything except pokemon to the switch 2. i would set up the switch 2 with your main profile, same nintendo login etc. then do data management -> save transfer and just transfer whatever saves you want to the switch 2 and leave pokemon on switch 1. that does mean that you leave your screenshots etc on switch 1 though unless you factory reset switch 2 and then do the full system transfer from scratch

i assume the method you mentioned about full data transfer -> single save transfer back would work as well, but the method above would guarantee pokemon stays

chrome knot
#

sry this lot of text that i might have missed mention of that

next stump
strange juniper
cyan smelt
#

i did a full system transfer and lost nothing

strange juniper
next stump
#

So the plan then is to skip the full system data transfer and then individually transfer over everything BUT pokemon

chrome knot
#

someone make a quick tutorial of this to pin for vgc players pls

#

at least until switch 2 is unbanned from competitive

exotic grotto
chrome knot
#

yes

exotic grotto
#

Thank you!

chrome knot
#

NAIC doesn’t allow use of switch 2

strange juniper
#

this is what transfers over if you do the full transfer. so you would just lose system settings, screenshots. and have to do the profile/save stuff one at a time

strange juniper
chrome knot
#

probably

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actually

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switch lites cant be docked so

#

id assume same procedure

strange juniper
#

FOR VGC COMPETITORS THAT NEED TO KEEP THEIR SAVE ON THE SWITCH 1

You have 2 options to choose from.

Option 1

When first booting up your Switch 2, there will be an option to do a System Transfer from your Switch 1. You go through the entire process of doing the System transfer.

Once that is done, on both Switches you go to Settings -> Data Management -> Save transfer.

You follow the steps on both Switches to transfer your Pokemon save from Switch 2 to Switch 1 (select send on Switch 2, Receive on Switch 1 and go from there).

Option 2

Setup Switch 2 from scratch as normal, login to the same Nintendo profile as your Switch 1 (same profile as the saves you wanna transfer over)

Go to Settings -> Data Management -> Transfer save data on both Switches

Choose "Send data" on Switch 1, "Receive data" on Switch 2. And then one at a time go through and transfer the saves you want to Switch 2, just skipping Pokemon

Note: This method means you'll leave behind screenshots and videos saved on your Switch 1. The only way to transfer those over once you have setup your Switch 2, is to factory reset the Switch 2 and then start with the system transfer (Option 1)

strange juniper
#

I'll leave that pinned till someone can confirm that you can just full system transfer and then transfer back your pokemon save, because that would be less time consuming KEKWLAUGH

chrome knot
#

idk better safe than sorry especially with naic less than a week away now

mighty stump
chrome knot
#

ty for the help tho

mighty stump
#

I personally haven’t watched since no Switch 2 yet but

chrome knot
#

tofu issue is we wanna transfer to switch 2 BUT keep pokemon on switch 1

#

idk abt transfer in general

strange juniper
#

yeah i looked through the AJP guide but he mainly just talks about the system transfer process. idt any of the videos out atm talk about transferring stuff back to switch 1 because it's p niche to want to do so KEKWLAUGH

#

@tranquil kraken since you're actively on it KEKWLAUGH did you do a full system transfer? and if so, are you willing to transfer your SV save back to switch 1 to test if that's all smooth KEKWLAUGH

chrome knot
#

iwi to the rescueGiggleHehe

tranquil kraken
#

was ez took like 10 mins

#

i can transfer back, making lunch rn ill update u

solid frigate
#

i don't hae switch 2 yet but i will buy it once i gott a job

exotic grotto
next stump
#

From someone who did a full system data transfer and then realized they fucked up

solid frigate
chrome knot
#

:0

solid frigate
#

its so fucking beautiful

chrome knot
#

no spoilers

#

but does the soundtrack have any of the old rainbow roads

tranquil kraken
astral kelp
#

i wonder if they made sharing screenshots less annoying on switch 2

tranquil kraken
#

you can view them directly in the nintendo switch app

#

and there's automatic uploads for up to 100 screenshots and videos

solid frigate
mighty stump
#

Wait

#

So

#

We do keep our Pokemon if we just do a regular transfer right

#

Like lets say im not concerned with keeping things on my switch 1

strange juniper
strange juniper
gentle cragBOT
strange juniper
#

ok pin now details both methods, with the faster system transfer method being the first choice

next stump
#

best placement so far

exotic grotto
next stump
#

base form versus the form they have when they hold their item

exotic grotto
#

Thank you!

dense latch
#

like how

near crag
#

I was trying to make terapagos koraidon work, but this team feels so weak... Any ideas? https://pokepast.es/919947797ea36a40 also, I don't really get the point of synergy between them, so that could be useful on redrawing the whole thing

dense latch
near crag
dense latch
#

i really don't see scream tail or moltres here

#

im assuming the 29 IVs on speed are a mistake

near crag
#

(meant to respond for the ivs message)

dense latch
#

seems like a decent enough idea

#

calm mind pagos > specs imo too

near crag
chrome knot
#

@next stump whats the naic call

#

are you clicking glacial lance or astral barrage my friend

#

bc me personally ill be clicking astral barrage

near crag
#

You think scream tail could work with them at all, or is it just completely unfitting?

next stump
#

glacial lance

#

glacial lance has gotten me 1k points over the last year surely it won’t let me down on the last 80

near crag
dense latch
#

can't wait for naic, best of luck to you two

next stump
#

electro drift 🙂

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thank you

#

5-3 result and I am super happy

#

anything better than that is icing on the cake

dense latch
#

recently went back to cir miraidon after using cir kyogre and man did i miss clicking edrift

#

volc is such a cool mon too

near crag
#

I'm hitting behemoth blade, and spout. If that can't do prob astral and drift/glacial and photon geyser

next stump
#

I feel like every matchup is playable

dense latch
#

truee

#

i've never felt like i've been in an auto lose mu with cir mirai

near crag
#

and four more for aura before firing

bold geode
near crag
#

its aight, you gotta be good at basketball to be the worse lebron

bold geode
#

How bro felt writing that

dense latch
#

but why would you hire brian scalabrine instead of lebron when they're worth the same

near crag
#

I agree, it's undeniably worse, but someone liked brian enough to burn a trip on it

bold geode
lofty tartan
#

Omg my new job is 100% the tits

chrome knot
#

no thats my job

#

theyre growing n stuff

bold geode
#

Bruh

#

@spiral ridge 🖕

chrome knot
#

what happened @bold geode

bold geode
#

Wha

chrome knot
#

why mad at idiot

bold geode
#

Oh
That's how we greet each other

spiral ridge
#

he just does this

spiral ridge
bold geode
#

Is she wrong tho

chrome knot
#

teehee

spiral ridge
craggy dagger
bold geode
#

Apparently it was all in my head

chrome knot
#

monke did u like my sun mu tutorial

bold geode
bold geode
spiral ridge
chrome knot
#

look pms

bold geode
spiral ridge
#

yeah and you woulda too

chrome knot
#

owch

#

not teehee

spiral ridge
#

called me dumb :(

chrome knot
#

called you dub

spiral ridge
#

shut uppp

chrome knot
#

me when i convert you to the chinese dub

spiral ridge
#

到底是什么

chrome knot
#

LMFAO

#

i was hoping you’d do that

spiral ridge
#

:3

chrome knot
#

how tf did u mess up :3

spiral ridge
#

;3

#

didnt press shift long enough

near crag
chrome knot
solid frigate
#

also Terapagos Made it into Finals?

#

does that count Reg G results

lofty tartan
# chrome knot no thats my job

I just mean it's super easy and good. No longer have to dread going to work and I get to work the same schedule as my wife now

#

And I get paid way better so that's a plus

solid frigate
#

intimidate

dense latch
chrome knot
spiral ridge
#

chonky,,

solid frigate
chrome knot
#

:(

solid frigate
next stump
#

Anyone have a 60FPS capture card (USB preferably) that they use/enjoy? Mine currently is 30FPS and I wanted to get a new one to match the Switch 2's power

chrome knot
#

elgato hd60s+

next stump
#

do you have an amazon link?

chrome knot
#

we have different amazons

next stump
#

ah RIp

#

lemme find it

chrome knot
#

its rly yummy

plush lark
#

What are good speeds for tr?

next stump
#

Time to really test this switch 2

next stump
#

There's a lot of stuff at the 49SPE number

plush lark
#

I'm looking to do a self proc weakness policy on ice horse

#

Might use Primarina

runic shard
#

Should I use chesnaught for pvp

next stump
runic shard
#

Greninja?

#

Is that a good pokemon

next stump
#

also bad

#

assuming you're playing double battles (if you're playing singles battles not many people here can help)

plush lark
#

Using empoleon vacuum wave to proc with Tera steel

solid frigate
# next stump also bad

the only good set is specs and it also sucks in double res

I have to fuck over myself to able to make it work in reg G lol

plush lark
#

Anyone have thoughts on this?

dense latch
#

no dragon move on wake is probably not a good idea either

plush lark
#

Who would be better than empoleon

dense latch
#

are you keen on keeping the self proc weakness policy strat? it's really not very strong but if you wanna make it work then i cant stop you

plush lark
#

I suppose I don't need it

dense latch
#

you can do life orb koraidon and clear amulet calyrex ice, av walking wake can work if you drop empoleon for something else

plush lark
#

Maybe brute bonnet?

dense latch
#

sure

#

brute bonnet is pretty good rn

plush lark
#

Might drop grim then..

dense latch
#

that opens up another slot which could work

#

caly ice as a koraidon partner has kinda lost popularity over things like lunala and shadow rider but the duo is still decent

#

i can send some caly ice koraidon teams that did decently in official tournaments to see if you want to do something similar

plush lark
#

Yea

dense latch
plush lark
#

How good is blood moon?

#

Ursa

foggy lodge
#

kinda flipping burgers rn

#

But its a strong pokemon by its own merits

shadow wind
#

Normal Ursa is doing better strictly for the fact that it has more balanced stats

#

But it has immunities to Miraidon and CSR so I doubt it’s bad right now

grizzled jolt
shadow wind
#

Aren’t those 3 things just the same thing?

grizzled jolt
#

what no

next stump
#

ahhaha yes they are

shadow wind
#

Packs a punch
Hits hard
Deals good damage

#

Right now let’s thing about a different thing it does

grizzled jolt
#

yes you can go physical or special

#

its not same build

shadow wind
#

😔

next stump
#

maybe he means this

grizzled jolt
#

no no

#

i mean good dmg, consistent dmg and burst dmg

#

ursaluna is all 3

#

can't wall the normal BM with immunity

shadow wind
#

What??

grizzled jolt
#

Do you know Ursaluna Bloodmoon specs

next stump
#

immunity to what

shadow wind
#

What’re we doin here

grizzled jolt
#

ghost is normally immune to normal

#

cant do that into BM Ursa

next stump
#

neither of those pokemon are ghost types

grizzled jolt
#

no no no

#

i talk about type chart

shadow wind
#

They mean they can’t be walled by ghost types

grizzled jolt
#

normal cant hit ghost

#

ursa BM goes around this

shadow wind
#

Which it wouldn’t matter either way because earth power is stupid

grizzled jolt
#

i know it's weird, signature ability

next stump
#

thank you, didnt know about that signature ability

grizzled jolt
#

my pleasure

#

always nice to help fellow pokemon enjoyers

#

so ya ursa is very good

plush lark
#

Noted

#

What's a good item? Already have life orb, covert, amulet, and av

spiral ridge
#

For what mon

#

Blursa?

plush lark
#

Yuh

next stump
#

Ursa runs Life Orb most of the time. If it’s 100% taken, your best bet is probably Throat Spray if you’re set on testing it. Especially since AV is also used

spiral ridge
#

Two versions I know are AV and lorb so

#

Oh throat spray yeah

foggy lodge
#

Sash blursa fuck it

spiral ridge
#

Haven’t seen that item in a while

plush lark
#

If I took lorb off of kora

next stump
#

But just being honest, you’ll probably find throat spray ursa really lackluster in this format. But test it out and you might feel different

spiral ridge
#

Normal plate blyrsa

foggy lodge
#

Actually yeah silk scarf isn't bad

plush lark
#

Could I take Lorb off Kora

#

Then put somethin else on him

foggy lodge
#

Clear amulet and make CIR lefties

spiral ridge
#

Yeah

foggy lodge
#

I remember a

#

Room service blursa set

#

Actually does anyone happen to know Cody Sharp

#

I think NAIC was the only tournament they played and then disappeared lol

solid frigate
foggy lodge
plain drum
#

Oh!

solid frigate
molten oasis
solid frigate
molten oasis
#

No it’s a bunch of fairy types vs a dark dragon type

solid frigate
#

but its scream tail

#

anyway

molten oasis
#

#

Does your hydreigon take gleam from 30+ scream tail?

spiral ridge
#

yuh

tiny karmaBOT
#
Item: Focus Band

Holder has a 10% chance to survive an attack that would KO it with 1 HP.

spiral ridge
#

just him with luck

molten oasis
#

That’s some insane luck lmao

solid frigate
#

252 SpA Scream Tail Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Hydreigon: 144-172 (86.2 - 102.9%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
252 Atk Scream Tail Play Rough vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Hydreigon through Reflect: 147-176 (88 - 105.3%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO

#

kinda ig

solid frigate
#

just hit em with the max revive

#

its not in a match

molten oasis
solid frigate
#

flash Cannon?

#

also ummm

#

i'd assume this user has level 100 Hydreigon

#

wait

tiny karmaBOT
#
Hydreigon's moveset:
Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aqua Tail, Assurance, Astonish, Beat Up, Bite, Body Slam, Breaking Swipe, Brutal Swing, Bulldoze, Crunch, Double Hit, Dragon Rush, Dragon Tail, Dual Wingbeat, Earthquake, Facade, Fire Fang, Fly, Frustration, Giga Impact, Head Smash, Headbutt, Ice Fang, Iron Tail, Lash Out, Outrage, Payback, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Scale Shot, Secret Power, Slam, Steel Wing, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Strength, Superpower, Tackle, Take Down, Thief, Throat Chop, Thunder Fang, U-turn, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Belch, Charge Beam, Dark Pulse, Draco Meteor, Dragon Breath, Dragon Pulse, Dragon Rage, Earth Power, Echoed Voice, Fire Blast, Fire Spin, Flamethrower, Flash Cannon, Focus Blast, Heat Wave, Hidden Power, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Incinerate, Round, Shock Wave, Signal Beam, Snarl, Snore, Surf, Tera Blast, Tri Attack, Uproar

Status Moves

Attract, Confide, Defog, Double Team, Dragon Cheer, Dragon Dance, Endure, Focus Energy, Helping Hand, Nasty Plot, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Reflect, Rest, Roar, Roost, Scary Face, Screech, Sleep Talk, Spite, Stealth Rock, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Tailwind, Taunt, Thunder Wave, Torment, Toxic, Work Up

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Hydreigon.

solid frigate
#

ok it does learn flash Cannon good to know

molten oasis
#

Get me a consistent ko on scream tail with hydreigon

solid frigate
#

these are wild area Scream Tail and i don't think bro does not have a level 100 Hydreigon

#

252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Steel Hydreigon Helping Hand Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Scream Tail: 288-342 (129.7 - 154%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Also screw you i win

#

also if we count

molten oasis
#

Hey

#

Where’d the helping hand come from

#

And you can only Tera once

solid frigate
#

its literally player's Hydreigon vs Scream Tail in wild Area

#

which should only be level 58 on average

molten oasis
#

Also how do you know it’s level 100?

#

That persons hydreigon

#

Also keep in mind the ivs varry

#

On the scream tails

solid frigate
#

Because

There is no fucking way no one would not level 100 their Hydreigon

Also no EVs btw

#

don't worry Scream Tail is on max IVs

molten oasis
#

Why would anyone spend time hitting lvl 100

solid frigate
#

you be suprised

#

252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Steel Hydreigon Flash Cannon vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Scream Tail: 194-230 (102.1 - 121%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Level 50 comparison without EVs

#

also Indigo Disk DLC Tera Orb Buff

#

so they can just tera everytime

molten oasis
#

Oh right

solid frigate
#

if run out of Flash Cannon PP you can just use Tera Blast

rustic mountain
molten oasis
#

But like

#

Idk I just wouldn’t get anything to 100 unless I have

foggy lodge
foggy lodge
#

Defensive tera for fighting and at the same gives it coverage against it

rustic mountain
foggy lodge
#

It is

rustic mountain
#

i think if u actually like play the game, some lvl 100s shouldnt be too hard at all

foggy lodge
#

I hate having to be carried by online people

lost sun
rustic mountain
foggy lodge
lost sun
molten oasis
#

I don’t do many raids oldmanshrug

lost sun
#

good for tera shards aswell

foggy lodge
#

I would rather treat Amoonguss than idk no tera Miraidon ig

rustic mountain
#

🤨

molten oasis
#

I got a shit ton from dlc and I just

rustic mountain
#

u must not change teras often lol

molten oasis
#

Rarely play. I OBVIOUSLY have some
Mons for raids

#

But I don’t do level 100’s for comp teams

rustic mountain
#

no not for comp but i meant moreso just having lvl 100s to farm stuff for comp

molten oasis
#

Which is what I was referring to

#

Well yea I have those

lost sun
molten oasis
#

My ruins are lvl 100 cuz for some raids id just go go gadget specs overheat on chi yu lol

rustic mountain
#

or anything i used in swsh comp is lvl 100 cuz that used to be wat u needed for hypertraining

lost sun
rustic mountain
#

yea i got a bunch too but the main ones im always low on

#

water/grass/ghost etc

dense latch
#

if it wasn't for the item printer i wouldnt play vgc on cart lol

lost sun
#

ye I need like 11 fairy for my lunala

dense latch
#

i can't stand tera raids

foggy lodge
#

I'm always low on ghost grass water fire and fairy

molten oasis
#

They’re not that bad

lost sun
foggy lodge
#

I have like 800 psychic tera shards

molten oasis
#

It could be Dynamax raids with that fucking solrock

foggy lodge
#

Where do I use them idk I'm not a psyspam player

rustic mountain
lost sun
#

I got a lot of fire water and grass from the starter raids a few months back

molten oasis
#

I sold my psychic shards

#

I don’t see a world where I’d need to legitimately use them

rustic mountain
#

yea

lost sun
#

what Pokémon even teras psychic

molten oasis
#

Psyspam mons sometimes

foggy lodge
#

I mean maybe you could need it but like just one tera psychic and very niche

rustic mountain
#

w. csr in the game now psychic tera seems genuinely awful not that it was ever good

molten oasis
#

And big emphasis on sometimes

foggy lodge
#

Tera psychic Amoonguss won a regional on reg H

molten oasis
#

Often your psyspam mon uses an different Tera

rustic mountain
#

no csr

foggy lodge
#

It was for the psyspam MU btw lol

molten oasis
#

No CSR, was good for sneasler psyspam mu

rustic mountain
#

yea

molten oasis
#

Wasn’t it cloaked too?

rustic mountain
#

i forget prolly

molten oasis
#

So sneasler didn’t cheese the amoonguss out of its job? Idk

rustic mountain
#

i believe so

#

and for fake out stuff

#

i was running cloak shroom early reg h i remember ppl giving me shit for it

molten oasis
#

Nah cloak shroom is good

#

Not as good nowadays but I’ve seen cloak amoonguss here and there

rustic mountain
#

it was just random sd players but at the time also not many ppl were running it

foggy lodge
#

Fun fact there were 0 mons with tera psychic on day 2 of worlds last year

#

lmao

rustic mountain
#

very believable fact

foggy lodge
#

Not a single one

rustic mountain
#

tera bug?

foggy lodge
#

Idk but how many bug tera hands won it so

molten oasis
#

Tera bug is actually quite nice

#

Which I was not expecting at all

rustic mountain
#

were ppl really using it much at worlds tho?

molten oasis
#

I thought bug was gonna be universally shit

foggy lodge
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0.63% mons used tera bug

rustic mountain
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yea

molten oasis
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Idt a bunch of people played bug, yea

foggy lodge
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Quite high actually

rustic mountain
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.063 is high?!

molten oasis
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?

foggy lodge
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For bug yes

rustic mountain
molten oasis
foggy lodge
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Ice had 0.31%

rustic mountain
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surprised it even hit that

molten oasis
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Hehe Tera ice CIR go brr

foggy lodge
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And flying 0.47%

molten oasis
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(That HAD to be it)

foggy lodge
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And tera rock had 2.47%

molten oasis
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What was highest? Water? Ghost?

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How???

foggy lodge
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Grass

molten oasis
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What Mon Tera rocks, ah makes sense

foggy lodge
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With like 15%

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Yeah lol

molten oasis
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I’d imagine fairy is up there too

foggy lodge
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Fairy is 9.43%

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5th most used

molten oasis
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Ah

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Mirai and CSR probably carried that

foggy lodge
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btw what do we think about this team

molten oasis
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It’s a team of all time

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That’s what I think

spiral ridge
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its not bad

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seems like decent balance of bulk and damage

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speed tiers may suck a bit thogh aside from treads

molten oasis
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It’s better than what I’m capable of making but, if it works it works

dense latch
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holy shit haliburton

next stump
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sooooo fucking sick

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lets GOOO

dense latch
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HOW do the pacers do it

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i've never seen a team make comebacks so consistently

rustic mountain
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now we got a series

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still think okc wins but now it wont be a gentlemens sweep

dense latch
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i was already joking with a friend about okc winning in 3 after okc made it 15

rustic mountain
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lmfao

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nah 15 is nothing for the pacers

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okc defense is good but pacers hit some tough shots down the stretch

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idk if their fortune will continue throughout the series

dense latch
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lowkey on me for not knowing they'd bring it back at this point in their run

rustic mountain
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tbf i thought okc would be fine too

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pacers are just relentless

dense latch
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tbf it was a fairly bad hali game efficiency wise

rustic mountain
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dude they had him offball he was getting suffocated

dense latch
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still got the shot that mattered off he's him

rustic mountain
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yep

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but he cant be that all series

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they need him to be what hes been all playoffs

dense latch
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yea that was what i was going to with what i was saying
even if they don't get as lucky in the series if hali and siakam can be consistent throughout the series they could make it tight

rustic mountain
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thats the big if tho

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stole g1 tho so off to a good start

dense latch
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also i was not familiar with lu dort's game

rustic mountain
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hes a monster

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tho i will say i didnt like those 2 3s he took in the last 5 minutes

dense latch
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i lost interest in this szn a bit down the middle when i finally stopped coping and realized miami was ass

rustic mountain
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that jimmy debacle was annoying

dense latch
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should prob start watching games more consistently bc i realize there's some good ass players ive been missing out on

rustic mountain
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yea dude the leagues in a good spot

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more parity then ever b4 it seems

dense latch
rustic mountain
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this offszn boutta go wild

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durant and giannis likely moving teams

dense latch
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really curious to see where giannis ends up

rustic mountain
dense latch
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imagine the spurs get him somehow

rustic mountain
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man

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theyd be a terrible shooting team

dense latch
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lmao

rustic mountain
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giannis fox and wemby would go like 4/16

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from 3

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theyd b better off w/ durant

dense latch
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valid point

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i just hope miami doesn't run it back yet again

rustic mountain
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i like giannis on the rockets or even detroit or orlando

rustic mountain
dense latch
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i'm tired of always hearing superstars get linked to miami and then nothing happening

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literally dropped to my knees when dame got traded to the bucks

rustic mountain
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idt anyones going there now, they should jus trade bam and herro and get assets and try going thru the draft

dense latch
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true

rustic mountain
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east is only getting better they cant keep up as is

chrome knot
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tr33

dense latch
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yea in the time we've been running it back all the other good east teams have been stacking up their roster

rustic mountain
chrome knot
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never reply w that emote whatda

rustic mountain
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w/ kobe waving?

rustic mountain
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not the west but still