#competitive_discussion
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still, this is probably not a half bad format for perish tbh, seeing the direction its going. yea
you need 3 turns stall needs a lot more
The only problem is Miraidon
and for my sanity sake
I am not using Perish team cuz its not for me lol
But Wolfey played around arubega Mirai very well with perish
So there's probably linea against it
they just have to pray its not Lunala
i could make a perish team but its gonna be hyper specific and with me maining Miraidon too much, its hard
beaten 2 Miraidon Bulk Teams (Mirai Nala and Mirai CIR Leech Seed)
Zacian blasts away two mons and you end with Perish
die /j
lemme go flip a coin and ill say whether youre right
I'm glad I got Scotty horse pilled
i knew i was gonna end up on a balance team again so yeah
You wanna play Zac perish trap?
And ACTUALLY test that
Nah I was just giving something
Gives you a lobotomy
kills you

yea then im not playing it lol
why would i pick zacian to explode things when theres miraidon or a calyrex or kyogre (ig)
or groudon 🙂
nah
Because Nintendo is greedy af
at least kyogre has water spout lol
I got a shiny P2 lol
nice
I just wanted to see one of the outbreaks and it spawned
Btw Porygon2 outbreaks event
its actually not the main reason
Just guess why i say that (Hint:Because of a Track)
I'm considering using P2 CSR Pagos
why shadow rider?
fighting Immunity?
Yeah
Its the natural CSR Pagos team
But P2 adds the TR mode for Pagos which is nice
And just the rest is supports
I expect Zacogre to do well at NAIC tbh
i ask myself that question everyday in regards to u picking zacian
So I think there will be things to test after that

thats not exactly what i meant i meant with zacian
ik wat u meant
8ball told me it was wise to drop thundy
would anyone like to practice battle with my?
we takin teambuilding advice from rotom now?
me*
wha?
what
if any1s down they can dm u otherwise id try #1046572041421197352
8ball is rotom
wat is confusing about wat i asked
Do we think that Zacian can top cut worlds this time like past year or nah
no
idk man, i went on a couple loss straks tilted and just, idk
Cuz I actually think Zacian is worse for this format than reg G
it is
no probably not, zacogre is good but not good enough. wha?
how is it worse it has kyogre
cuz everything else got better
-8ball ask the question
ask the question
:8ball: It is decidedly so
so regidrago zacian is better than zacogre
-8ball Should i use Mirai Ogre in my EU Collab Tour Tmr
Should i use Mirai Ogre in my EU Collab Tour Tmr
:8ball: Better not tell you now
is basically what im hearing (i think)
-8ball Tell me now
Tell me now
:8ball: Outlook not so good
damn it-
-8ball does Ho-Oh top cut worlds this year
-8ball Should i use Miraidon in my EU Collab tour
Should i use Miraidon in my EU Collab tour
:8ball: Yes, definitely
damn
ok time to shiny hunt ho-oh
Flabbergasted by the question couldn't even answer
-8ball Should i use Kyogre in my EU Collab Tour
Should i use Kyogre in my EU Collab Tour
:8ball: You may rely on it
ok Mirai Ogre time again-
lmao bro does not wanna add comments on the metagame
moreso like, csr having a partner now or miraidon having a partner now and the like still means zacian is outclassed despite having an objectively better partner in kyogre. wen the strength increases overall, some things tend to get even less useable because they have even more to contend with. zacian fits into that
i, dont feel that way but, ok
Dexit síndrome basically
sure ur also extremely bias towards zacian tho
i've felt like zac actually gets to particiate in battles more this format
Like Wolfey said that when the pool is bigger is actually smaller
Nah Zacian is better now for sure
Though it cutting Worlds? Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhh I can see both scenarios
Zacian didn't have like a bad MU into most things
ik im biased but idt it was better in reg g, one incin made it really hard to bring its not like that now

yea i just dont think thats the case, if i ever see zacian im jumpin for joy for the freelo its just not as threatening or as good a choice as any of the other top 5 guys
thats never been the case
top 7 even i think i have zacian at 8 or 9 best atm
Miraidon was a good MU for it, Ice Rider was equal I think, CSR wasn't equal but nor unwinnable, Koraidon was a bad MU for sure, Zama and pagos were 50/50 if not favorable to Zac
ice rider was bad
cuz the ice rider would always tera and tr on you
and fire was very common
CIR teams were very varied so I believe it
thats also fair
The Tangs team was bad against Zac but other teams were good into it
it was worse if it was CIR incin
i think CIR Mirai is a spot zac is still good in
but it definitely just doesnt like CSR much
ho-oh existing is annoying for it, zama CSR sucks for it it explodes, uh, mirai lunala is just a hard wall to break
idt its bad but it got worse to me this format. as bad as single restricted was u could patch holes a lot easier and only had to contend w/ 1 restricted on the opposing side, having 2 now and zacians inability to enable itself effectively or any of its teammates means its so much less flexible wen ur bringing it into games. 1 switch or intimidate and ur restricted hits like a wet noodle
maybe it is worse
I think Farig can quite solve it
solve what?
i've also found tailroom to be really awkward with zacian, which is where i usually see fari
mostly the tr mode
Hm
i also suck at playing tailroom but it still feels clunky
fckn hate ditto
Even tho I don't think Ditto is that good nos
Ditto is ass
yea id lean more onto the offensive strengths of ur team, idt its really for having tr on since u dont have a tr mode to help balance it
Always ass
the one time i was like
tailroom is okay was on lunala zac but that duo has so many holes
dittos fine it was just overused
its really only for specific teams and players that can utilize it effectively
i am not that person
Ditto is good as long as you don't copy a Ho-Oh
im the person to copy the ho-oh

Bro doesn't believe in Ho Oh
why should he
And I will never
lol
Y'all still tripping on thet
nah man
its not a good mon it just had a time to shine due to it filling a good niche
Calling it rn Ho-Oh is not top cutting neither NAIC or Worlds
ho oh had its time, i think we saw the best results for it
I hope Ho Oh wins Worlds just so I can give you a fat middle finger
sure
ok
For Max not you Tree
lmao

I see that Guts profile
I heard the tales
uh, yea idk its hard to not do zacogre cuz they pair so well with eachother and its like
guts story 
patching holes on zacnala is miserable, and zacmirai is weird
idt zac mirai is inheriently bad but it hates the concept of tr ursa
im not saying kyogre isnt the best partner for zacian im moreso saying i think zacian is worse off now

God why do there gotta be a Muk Smeargle mfer in this tournament I'm hosting
well it always will be
Timing out my tournament
zac would need its ability back to get enough power to combat imo
some ppl dont wanna play or learn the game differently
One of the reasons why I approve of Scarf Lando + Rain
You just fuck up Muk Smeargle
yea ud have to give it both it just sucks
cuz it has such a good defensive typing
and is great for pivoting
Yes please
it just, cant
but u just dont wanna do that
Give me back that pre Zam
Actually didn't your Lando Zama team destroy Muk Smeargle
Actually
Nah don't
Like heavy slam sandsear
Mfer didn't have Body Press
yea
that would have been nuts
Bro deadass that wasn't why I put it there but I found it out and was like hell yeah
eh actually idk, idk how strong zama would have ended up in gen 8 with body press
idk y they gave us zama w/o body press ever but yea
And the move was created in the same gen
wouldve made it more useable for sure
probably fairly strong but not zacian levels of strong
One would think it was because they thought it would be too broken but they gave swords dance to Zac soooo
sd zacian kinda sucks rn tho
Yea
But in the context for gen 8 it was crazy
i use it cuz its just nice into screens teams
plz tell me how often u are getting sd value
into screen teams and thats it
yea
also punishing incin ig, but that doesnt happen cuz people wuss out of taking incin into kyogre
which is valid but still
oh no ik you would the people i fight dont and i always expect it to go
yea
zacian matches are like, remove incin or remove 2 mons
or go gamble and hope they dont nerf the dog (they will)
mm, sucks not knowing what to play rn im just kinda bored.
im still on break
zac is fun but, idk
may just stop for the format tbh
like, not trying too hard to do anything just here and there playing
yea im mostly doing that
Me too
atleast for now, i just dont really care enough rn im still keeping up but this formats kinda mid
im not looking to improve in this format
I just don't like the format too much
its not that fun
I prefer watching people playing it
i need smth new and this feels like reg g 3.0
Genuinely excited for NAIC
we just let you use 2
u hated reg h and now look where we are
Asian players always cook

I WANT REG H SO BAD
REG H??
same
that format was fun
Actually reg H wasn't that bad
i didnt like it (cuz i didnt appreciate it) but like
But still I prefer reg G
ppl were so harsh on reg h for no reason
Or reg F
at least it was fun this format is not fun to play
reg f was cool reg g 1 was solid reg g 2 was not
I just didn't like the change from restricteds and legendaries format to absolutely nothing
i loved it
Valid
like wow you clicked leech seed and now i get to watch you spam protect like
that fckn sucks to play into
i also think my taste for that format was ruined when archapeli just steamrolled the first month or so
Gimme back Reg F
and then sneasler picked up, that mons annoying
it stayed good but it did not dominate that long
otherwise a9 was meta and that was lit
yea
Nah Archaludon was broken
the month before the format officially came out it was dominant
"Reg I doesn't have variety"
Nah
Brother won like 5 regionals I think??
did it?
yea
Baltimore, two in EU, Toronto
archapeli was really good
i think reg i has decent variety, format still sucks tho
Well it has variety but like
its okay variety but its genuinely really difficult to get results with not the main top 7 restrictecds
Its super stale and compared to reg G I don't see too much innovation
its early still
I think I said it before but if the biggest innovation of the format is putting leech seed on a Calyrex then it is stale xd
NAIC better cook (toxic pagos and stall eternatus)
hell no
i meaaannn, i could see it with the direction some of the format is goin in
someone did well with toxic pagos
i do not wanna watch that shit
same
Neil got top 1 on sd ladder yeah
And I had the coolest idea of toxic P2 cuz ohhh it beats the pagos and CIR
And then I realized they took it away from it
lmao
Like yeah GF thanks for giving toxic to PAGOS??? But not P2
i do think after playing through a double restricted format, i like formats with the legends but not the restricteds
Why does pagos gets toxic and no other poison type move I don't know
reg f was awesome, e was ok. d was bad cuz shifu was really hard to deal with
or more, annoying, tornshifu was nuts reg d
harc was putting up jordan numbers
harc honestly might be my favorite like
surprise meta pick, i thought harc was hella mid
initially
i didnt think itd be good
then it, like regularly beat lando t in usage right?
ik in reg e it was the prominent intimidator
ohhh imagine telling a vgc time traveler than Lando-T now sees 0 usage at high level of tournaments
Cresselia and Lando-T have 0 usage, Heatran is niche and Kangaskhan and Aegislash are no longer in the game
cress got a new awesome move, has no usage
lol
cress got taken over by a giraffe
And I believed on the Zama Cresselia team
that we thought was bad in the beginning
cress ursa was a huge fraud too
reg d it was okay it fell off later on
like hard, oh right reg e was fari blursa thats why
I can't say too much I didn't play that format
I hardly remember even something about reg E
And I started playing there
I just remember the tera dragon dengo for the Ogerpons
Rilla Shifu Harc Dengo Tornadus
oh that format was where tw moon balance picked up
THE WEEZING NERF
tbf it was good for a few formats
Do you know that if that nerd didn't exist
Miraidon and Koraidon could set its abilities with Weezing
Without needing ability shield
that is why i think the nerf is fine
the nerf wen it happened sucked but as times gone on its prolly better they did it then
I was going to ask if Clodsire is struggling right now but given the two horses in the room as well as Ursaluna I think the answer is a little too obvious
But it was crazy I think even some regionals already happened before the nerf and Weezing Moon balance did well
So they literally killed the archetype
clodsire has historically been quite bad unfortunately
yea unfortunately even b4 all those guys clodsire struggled to ever find a place, i think its much better in singles
Clodsire can OHKO Miraidon
very disheartening
Is the best it can do

Other than funny calcs nothing else
Poison/Ground
Poison Point, Water Absorb, Unaware (Hidden)
130/75/60/45/100/20
430
how?
Choice band
friendly reminder iron hands can ko mega beedrill w/ fake out
Idk a Clodsire OHKOd my Miraidon on ladder one time
Body Press, Body Slam, Bulldoze, Counter, Dig, Double Kick, Double-Edge, Earthquake, Facade, Giga Impact, Gunk Shot, Heavy Slam, High Horsepower, Iron Head, Liquidation, Low Kick, Megahorn, Poison Jab, Poison Sting, Poison Tail, Rock Slide, Rock Tomb, Slam, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Tackle, Take Down, Trailblaze, Waterfall, Zen Headbutt
Acid Spray, Ancient Power, Chilling Water, Earth Power, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Mud Shot, Mud-Slap, Muddy Water, Sludge Bomb, Sludge Wave, Spit Up, Surf, Tera Blast, Venoshock, Water Pulse
After You, Amnesia, Curse, Endure, Haze, Helping Hand, Mist, Protect, Rain Dance, Recover, Rest, Sandstorm, Sleep Talk, Spikes, Stealth Rock, Stockpile, Substitute, Swallow, Tail Whip, Toxic, Toxic Spikes, Yawn
A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Clodsire.
so banded hhp
mirais are bulky now
Yeah
It was Ceribelli's spread which wasn't too bulky
I remember that Ceribelli said that his Mirai was considered a slow Mirai by the time of worlds
252+ Atk Choice Band Clodsire High Horsepower vs. 44 HP / 4 Def Miraidon: 186-218 (102.7 - 120.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO good for it ig
still aint getting usage lmao
well yea cuz it doesnt do anything
tis just for the funnies
There was a slug at my door
Had to push it away just to be safe
thx for letting us know monke
idk
But yeah I was today years old when I discovered fake out hands can kill mega beedrill
Can't let it catch me dawg
hahah right, we may actually get that in champions depending wat it even is
you missed the night we talked and researched that
Imagine having to calc a way to make beedrill survive a fake out😭
that was so funny
how do i sun matchup
Ability shield tornadus rain dance wujuu
idk what you're using
Fair lol
and yea i agree peli is not good rn lol
peli was good for awhile
Yeah Pelipper kinda dogshit
what are you usin
was it? reg i? i never really saw it
csr zam
no like prior formats
Tho I think Zama CSR with Pelipper and Ursh isn't bad
uh, scarf CSR 
well yea, i meant currently
ok sorry i asked bruh
idk what the full team is
like i'd assume for sun you pressure with CSR, but ig theres flutter, which sucks for the caly
and zama doesnt wanna be infront of the koraidon
Isn't Chien-Pao CSR a good lead
The snail is just bullshit right
Well it depends on the sun
yes monke
Imagine
no pao
If its sash CSR or sash Flutter or weezing dondozo kodaidon
Nah I was thinking like
What if there was an actual guy that it happened to
Well it is throwing gang signs at me
mm idk man you might be cooked
FUCK
i have a bit of a different csr/zama comp but usually lead zama (water tera) and csr to feign pressure then depending on their lead i try and remove the bigger threat either by protecting csr or switching (korai isnt going to cc a ghost slot as a swap to incin if thats favorable. hard to lab a mu w/ a team i dont use outside the restricted duo
It was looking at me sideways cuzz

ill dm team tree help me text chat vgc a little
fun talk, didnt help with team advice, imma go beat up spamton neo now
Why that shit make me think of Splatoon
lol, its a deltarune character btu i see that
birb
wait what niesh does heatran have huh
niche or niesh-
damn nice,i might save my money for it cuz ummmm
They made Rainbow Road Peak
Yeah was like 150 people in line I was like number 6 went early with my daughter
no clue how to spell that man
Niche
still in line for mine but probably only 15-20 more minutes
standin n shit
super excited for VGC to migrate over eventually
you speak English you are a kiwi mf-
Wow did they have enough stock for everyone?
oahh nice
Not sure I got mine and dipped lol they were pulling them off a truck in the back
wood HAMMER
im about to SS it dw
what the freak whered duskull come from
and ill take 3 prize cards
what the freak
idk tcg can i just play a pikachu card
yayyy got one
yayyyy
nice dude
My gamestop had 70 extras for today and then who knows how many for preorders
pretty smooth rollout
i been stuck in line
feet tired from worky, took injection so leg feels like punched
dying atm :3
lets not do that love
well i dont comtrol it
Is there anywhere in the game I can get a free ability capsule? And how many badges unlock them for purchase?
First in line 💪
you get them for free in 6 star tera raids
thank you
gn
now I regret not standing outside for 7 hours
ah
NOOOOOO
A semi-trustable guy from my locals says that you can do a full data transfer from Switch 1 to Switch 2 and then do an individual Pokemon save transfer back from Switch 2 to Switch 1
IDK if I want to rely on that though because if I fuck it up then I gotta spend my next week grinding a new save hahaha
im gonna put my team on a different save just in case LMFAO
@chrome knot 
gm minke
if you guys are trying to transfer everything except pokemon to the switch 2. i would set up the switch 2 with your main profile, same nintendo login etc. then do data management -> save transfer and just transfer whatever saves you want to the switch 2 and leave pokemon on switch 1. that does mean that you leave your screenshots etc on switch 1 though unless you factory reset switch 2 and then do the full system transfer from scratch
i assume the method you mentioned about full data transfer -> single save transfer back would work as well, but the method above would guarantee pokemon stays
would i be able to transfer pokemon right after naic?
sry this lot of text that i might have missed mention of that
oh shoot, that’s HUGE! So the only thing I lose on are screenshots and other small things? Would I be able to simultaneously have switch online on the Switch 1 and 2 as long as it’s the same nintendo account?
Yup!
yeah you can then choose to transfer the pokemon save individually after
i did a full system transfer and lost nothing
correct for both yeah. just that both won't be able to go online at the same time, which is obv
So the plan then is to skip the full system data transfer and then individually transfer over everything BUT pokemon
someone make a quick tutorial of this to pin for vgc players pls
at least until switch 2 is unbanned from competitive
Are you doing this because Pokémon vgc tournaments require you to use the original?
yes
Thank you!
NAIC doesn’t allow use of switch 2
this is what transfers over if you do the full transfer. so you would just lose system settings, screenshots. and have to do the profile/save stuff one at a time
wonder if that's because they don't wanna setup docks for both switch types
FOR VGC COMPETITORS THAT NEED TO KEEP THEIR SAVE ON THE SWITCH 1
You have 2 options to choose from.
Option 1
When first booting up your Switch 2, there will be an option to do a System Transfer from your Switch 1. You go through the entire process of doing the System transfer.
Once that is done, on both Switches you go to Settings -> Data Management -> Save transfer.
You follow the steps on both Switches to transfer your Pokemon save from Switch 2 to Switch 1 (select send on Switch 2, Receive on Switch 1 and go from there).
Option 2
Setup Switch 2 from scratch as normal, login to the same Nintendo profile as your Switch 1 (same profile as the saves you wanna transfer over)
Go to Settings -> Data Management -> Transfer save data on both Switches
Choose "Send data" on Switch 1, "Receive data" on Switch 2. And then one at a time go through and transfer the saves you want to Switch 2, just skipping Pokemon
Note: This method means you'll leave behind screenshots and videos saved on your Switch 1. The only way to transfer those over once you have setup your Switch 2, is to factory reset the Switch 2 and then start with the system transfer (Option 1)
I'll leave that pinned till someone can confirm that you can just full system transfer and then transfer back your pokemon save, because that would be less time consuming 
idk better safe than sorry especially with naic less than a week away now
idk if it would be helpful but Austin John has a video guide
ty for the help tho
I personally haven’t watched since no Switch 2 yet but
tofu issue is we wanna transfer to switch 2 BUT keep pokemon on switch 1
idk abt transfer in general
yeah i looked through the AJP guide but he mainly just talks about the system transfer process. idt any of the videos out atm talk about transferring stuff back to switch 1 because it's p niche to want to do so 
@tranquil kraken since you're actively on it
did you do a full system transfer? and if so, are you willing to transfer your SV save back to switch 1 to test if that's all smooth 
iwi to the rescue
ye i did system transfer
was ez took like 10 mins
i can transfer back, making lunch rn ill update u
Helloing Tofu
i don't hae switch 2 yet but i will buy it once i gott a job
I hope you're able to get a Switch 2!
What went wrong?
hopefully
The rainbow road in MKW turned my view on the 80$ price tag lol
:0
its so fucking beautiful
its the same process except now it prompts you if you're sending to a Switch or Switch 2
i wonder if they made sharing screenshots less annoying on switch 2
you can view them directly in the nintendo switch app
and there's automatic uploads for up to 100 screenshots and videos
i think it kinda does,not too sure
ohhhh
Wait
So
We do keep our Pokemon if we just do a regular transfer right
Like lets say im not concerned with keeping things on my switch 1
Yeah then you keep your mons all fine
Tyty I'll edit the pin in a few to include that method too
bgoproton has given 1 Gen Rep to ongepast
ok pin now details both methods, with the faster system transfer method being the first choice
Why is there two Zacian and Zamazenta?
base form versus the form they have when they hold their item
Thank you!
I was trying to make terapagos koraidon work, but this team feels so weak... Any ideas? https://pokepast.es/919947797ea36a40 also, I don't really get the point of synergy between them, so that could be useful on redrawing the whole thing
i think the issue isn't the restricted duo but some of the other pokemon
its really worse than shadow rider, but it will always be better then stuff like kyurem b
i really don't see scream tail or moltres here
im assuming the 29 IVs on speed are a mistake
yeah, just noticed it
(meant to respond for the ivs message)
https://pokepast.es/dc282b3770a77712 this is the only pagos korai team i found in off bologna 256
seems like a decent enough idea
calm mind pagos > specs imo too
if I'm being honest scream tail is the only mon I'd rather keep, but I can't argue about stuff like moltress too
@next stump whats the naic call
are you clicking glacial lance or astral barrage my friend
bc me personally ill be clicking astral barrage
You think scream tail could work with them at all, or is it just completely unfitting?
glacial lance
glacial lance has gotten me 1k points over the last year surely it won’t let me down on the last 80
spout too, or just good'ol electro drift?
can't wait for naic, best of luck to you two
electro drift 🙂
thank you
5-3 result and I am super happy
anything better than that is icing on the cake
recently went back to cir miraidon after using cir kyogre and man did i miss clicking edrift
volc is such a cool mon too
I'm hitting behemoth blade, and spout. If that can't do prob astral and drift/glacial and photon geyser
such an awesome combo
I feel like every matchup is playable
Me sending the souls of the damned over the competition
and four more for aura before firing
Ok who TF made top 128 with Mewtwo
its aight, you gotta be good at basketball to be the worse lebron
but why would you hire brian scalabrine instead of lebron when they're worth the same
I agree, it's undeniably worse, but someone liked brian enough to burn a trip on it
https://x.com/2thyfor/status/1930319034467397857?t=vfy-SE_6iT6-0v_0RJrDwQ&s=19
@next stump you know anything about this
thanks to @SableyeVGC's SPAMS doc, ive created a matchup sheet with all of the relevant teams leading up to NAIC
let me know in the comments if there should be any more common teams added to the sheet
Omg my new job is 100% the tits
what happened @bold geode
Wha
why mad at idiot
Oh
That's how we greet each other
he just does this
and wtfff
Is she wrong tho
teehee
we wanna talk about the shit show that commenced last 2 days yall dumb too

YOU SHUT THE FUCK UP
Apparently it was all in my head
monke did u like my sun mu tutorial

You sent me a Sun MU tutorial?
it was very entertaining to watch this all go down
look pms
Yeah of course you enjoyed it
yeah and you woulda too
called me dumb :(
called you dub
shut uppp
me when i convert you to the chinese dub
到底是什么
:3
how tf did u mess up :3
Just remade that koraidon terapagos team: https://pokepast.es/2883ff32bf02e231 Any thoughts?
stinkyyyy
MEWTWO
FUCKING MEWTWO
also Terapagos Made it into Finals?
does that count Reg G results
I just mean it's super easy and good. No longer have to dread going to work and I get to work the same schedule as my wife now
And I get paid way better so that's a plus
intimidate
yea melbourne
holy shit whats their name
chonky,,
i didn’t ask their owner’s about its name
:(
but yeah it just intimidate+Parting shot me anyway
Anyone have a 60FPS capture card (USB preferably) that they use/enjoy? Mine currently is 30FPS and I wanted to get a new one to match the Switch 2's power
elgato hd60s+
do you have an amazon link?
we have different amazons
ah RIp
lemme find it
its rly yummy
What are good speeds for tr?
Time to really test this switch 2
If you're playing double battles, I would say anything slower than 70-80SPE (the final stat, not their base speed) is pretty good in TR
There's a lot of stuff at the 49SPE number
Should I use chesnaught for pvp
pretty terrible pokemon
also bad
assuming you're playing double battles (if you're playing singles battles not many people here can help)
the only good set is specs and it also sucks in double res
I have to fuck over myself to able to make it work in reg G lol
Anyone have thoughts on this?
empoleon is terrible in this format
no dragon move on wake is probably not a good idea either
Who would be better than empoleon
are you keen on keeping the self proc weakness policy strat? it's really not very strong but if you wanna make it work then i cant stop you
I suppose I don't need it
you can do life orb koraidon and clear amulet calyrex ice, av walking wake can work if you drop empoleon for something else
Maybe brute bonnet?
Might drop grim then..
that opens up another slot which could work
caly ice as a koraidon partner has kinda lost popularity over things like lunala and shadow rider but the duo is still decent
i can send some caly ice koraidon teams that did decently in official tournaments to see if you want to do something similar
Yea
Normal Ursa is doing better strictly for the fact that it has more balanced stats
But it has immunities to Miraidon and CSR so I doubt it’s bad right now
Very good, packs a punch, hits hard, deals good damage.
Aren’t those 3 things just the same thing?
what no
ahhaha yes they are
Packs a punch
Hits hard
Deals good damage
Right now let’s thing about a different thing it does
😔
no no
i mean good dmg, consistent dmg and burst dmg
ursaluna is all 3
can't wall the normal BM with immunity
What??
immunity to what
What’re we doin here
neither of those pokemon are ghost types
They mean they can’t be walled by ghost types
Which it wouldn’t matter either way because earth power is stupid
i know it's weird, signature ability
thank you, didnt know about that signature ability
Yuh
Ursa runs Life Orb most of the time. If it’s 100% taken, your best bet is probably Throat Spray if you’re set on testing it. Especially since AV is also used
Sash blursa fuck it
Haven’t seen that item in a while
If I took lorb off of kora
But just being honest, you’ll probably find throat spray ursa really lackluster in this format. But test it out and you might feel different
Normal plate blyrsa
Actually yeah silk scarf isn't bad
Clear amulet and make CIR lefties
Yeah
I remember a
Room service blursa set
Actually does anyone happen to know Cody Sharp
I think NAIC was the only tournament they played and then disappeared lol
lol
Oh!
perish song/Encore/disable intensifies
That poor hydreigon lmfao
bro is gonna be encore disable and Perish Song'd
No it’s a bunch of fairy types vs a dark dragon type
yuh
Holder has a 10% chance to survive an attack that would KO it with 1 HP.
just him with luck
That’s some insane luck lmao
252 SpA Scream Tail Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Hydreigon: 144-172 (86.2 - 102.9%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
252 Atk Scream Tail Play Rough vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Hydreigon through Reflect: 147-176 (88 - 105.3%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
kinda ig
Times 30
And how do you kill them back
Acrobatics, Aqua Tail, Assurance, Astonish, Beat Up, Bite, Body Slam, Breaking Swipe, Brutal Swing, Bulldoze, Crunch, Double Hit, Dragon Rush, Dragon Tail, Dual Wingbeat, Earthquake, Facade, Fire Fang, Fly, Frustration, Giga Impact, Head Smash, Headbutt, Ice Fang, Iron Tail, Lash Out, Outrage, Payback, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Scale Shot, Secret Power, Slam, Steel Wing, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Strength, Superpower, Tackle, Take Down, Thief, Throat Chop, Thunder Fang, U-turn, Zen Headbutt
Belch, Charge Beam, Dark Pulse, Draco Meteor, Dragon Breath, Dragon Pulse, Dragon Rage, Earth Power, Echoed Voice, Fire Blast, Fire Spin, Flamethrower, Flash Cannon, Focus Blast, Heat Wave, Hidden Power, Hydro Pump, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Incinerate, Round, Shock Wave, Signal Beam, Snarl, Snore, Surf, Tera Blast, Tri Attack, Uproar
Attract, Confide, Defog, Double Team, Dragon Cheer, Dragon Dance, Endure, Focus Energy, Helping Hand, Nasty Plot, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Reflect, Rest, Roar, Roost, Scary Face, Screech, Sleep Talk, Spite, Stealth Rock, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Tailwind, Taunt, Thunder Wave, Torment, Toxic, Work Up
A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Hydreigon.
ok it does learn flash Cannon good to know
Get me a consistent ko on scream tail with hydreigon
i mean
these are wild area Scream Tail and i don't think bro does not have a level 100 Hydreigon
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Steel Hydreigon Helping Hand Flash Cannon vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Scream Tail: 288-342 (129.7 - 154%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Also screw you i win
also if we count
its literally player's Hydreigon vs Scream Tail in wild Area
which should only be level 58 on average
Also how do you know it’s level 100?
That persons hydreigon
Also keep in mind the ivs varry
On the scream tails
Because
There is no fucking way no one would not level 100 their Hydreigon
Also no EVs btw
don't worry Scream Tail is on max IVs
Why would anyone spend time hitting lvl 100
you be suprised
252+ SpA Choice Specs Tera Steel Hydreigon Flash Cannon vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Scream Tail: 194-230 (102.1 - 121%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Level 50 comparison without EVs
also Indigo Disk DLC Tera Orb Buff
so they can just tera everytime
Oh right
oh yeah btw
if run out of Flash Cannon PP you can just use Tera Blast
p easy to get xp candy or rare candy

Didn't post it here so here's my magnific creation https://pokepast.es/93b437c87b94a109
y tera flying porygon
Defensive tera for fighting and at the same gives it coverage against it
honestly w/o lvl 100 mons trying to do 5 and 6 star raids for shards and shit would be miserable
It is
i think if u actually like play the game, some lvl 100s shouldnt be too hard at all
I hate having to be carried by online people
ye but fairy or ghost would be better
yea id rather just solo em w/ npcs like i do now

what does ghost give me
Yea but here’s the thing
ye there's a lot of xp Candy's from the raids that have circles around them
I don’t do many raids 
good for tera shards aswell
I would rather treat Amoonguss than idk no tera Miraidon ig
how do u get tera shards
🤨
I got a shit ton from dlc and I just
u must not change teras often lol
Rarely play. I OBVIOUSLY have some
Mons for raids
But I don’t do level 100’s for comp teams
no not for comp but i meant moreso just having lvl 100s to farm stuff for comp
I used the item printer a lot and got loads of all of them
My ruins are lvl 100 cuz for some raids id just go go gadget specs overheat on chi yu lol
or anything i used in swsh comp is lvl 100 cuz that used to be wat u needed for hypertraining

mainly did it to get other stuff to sell to buy ev boosts
if it wasn't for the item printer i wouldnt play vgc on cart lol
ye I need like 11 fairy for my lunala
That sucked lmao
i can't stand tera raids
I'm always low on ghost grass water fire and fairy
They’re not that bad
fr such a good addition to the dlc
I have like 800 psychic tera shards
It could be Dynamax raids with that fucking solrock
Where do I use them idk I'm not a psyspam player
same lol and fighting
I got a lot of fire water and grass from the starter raids a few months back
I sold my psychic shards
I don’t see a world where I’d need to legitimately use them
yea
what Pokémon even teras psychic
Psyspam mons sometimes
I mean maybe you could need it but like just one tera psychic and very niche
w. csr in the game now psychic tera seems genuinely awful not that it was ever good
And big emphasis on sometimes
Tera psychic Amoonguss won a regional on reg H
Often your psyspam mon uses an different Tera
no csr
It was for the psyspam MU btw lol
No CSR, was good for sneasler psyspam mu
yea
Wasn’t it cloaked too?
i forget prolly
So sneasler didn’t cheese the amoonguss out of its job? Idk
i believe so
and for fake out stuff
i was running cloak shroom early reg h i remember ppl giving me shit for it
Nah cloak shroom is good
Not as good nowadays but I’ve seen cloak amoonguss here and there
it was just random sd players but at the time also not many ppl were running it
very believable fact
Not a single one
tera bug?
Idk but how many bug tera hands won it so
were ppl really using it much at worlds tho?
I thought bug was gonna be universally shit
0.63% mons used tera bug
yea
Idt a bunch of people played bug, yea
Quite high actually
.063 is high?!
?
For bug yes


Ice had 0.31%
surprised it even hit that
Hehe Tera ice CIR go brr
And flying 0.47%
(That HAD to be it)
And tera rock had 2.47%
Grass
What Mon Tera rocks, ah makes sense
I’d imagine fairy is up there too
its not bad
seems like decent balance of bulk and damage
speed tiers may suck a bit thogh aside from treads
It’s better than what I’m capable of making but, if it works it works
holy shit haliburton
hes him
now we got a series
still think okc wins but now it wont be a gentlemens sweep
i was already joking with a friend about okc winning in 3 after okc made it 15
lmfao
nah 15 is nothing for the pacers
okc defense is good but pacers hit some tough shots down the stretch
idk if their fortune will continue throughout the series
lowkey on me for not knowing they'd bring it back at this point in their run
tbf it was a fairly bad hali game efficiency wise
still got the shot that mattered off he's him
yep
but he cant be that all series
they need him to be what hes been all playoffs
yea that was what i was going to with what i was saying
even if they don't get as lucky in the series if hali and siakam can be consistent throughout the series they could make it tight
also i was not familiar with lu dort's game
hes a monster
tho i will say i didnt like those 2 3s he took in the last 5 minutes
i lost interest in this szn a bit down the middle when i finally stopped coping and realized miami was ass
that jimmy debacle was annoying
should prob start watching games more consistently bc i realize there's some good ass players ive been missing out on
i still don't know what to do with my jimmy poster
really curious to see where giannis ends up
i mean id prolly keep it, even if it ended badly he had some good years for miami
imagine the spurs get him somehow
lmao
i like giannis on the rockets or even detroit or orlando
i think they know they shouldnt
i'm tired of always hearing superstars get linked to miami and then nothing happening
literally dropped to my knees when dame got traded to the bucks
idt anyones going there now, they should jus trade bam and herro and get assets and try going thru the draft
true
east is only getting better they cant keep up as is
tr33
yea in the time we've been running it back all the other good east teams have been stacking up their roster

never reply w that emote whatda
w/ kobe waving?
detroit and magic on the rise, bucks boutta suck but then u got celtics, pacers now, knicks, cavs, raptors i think r gna b ok
not the west but still


