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LOL
turn 1 game 1 FF
there is no reason for him to turn 1 tera
if i am being real here
@next stump please help me
what is the theory behind turn 1 miraidon +1 mirrors
what tf is the most likely to be clicked
i do wonder what they were cooking
also like There is no reason to Tera Turn 1
like scarf miraidon?
miraidon vs miraidon is some of the scariest mind games i've ever been in
I feel I always play into Miraidon vs Miraidon ready to lose Miraidon every time
any of miraidon's moves are an option
So I just never Tera and play assuming I will lose Miraidon
Ultimate game of chicken and so far its worked most of the time
Lmao
LOL
Bro's preparing the casket immediately
Hello tofu and monke
Hello sir
Miraidon Lunala has been my favorite lead so far
Bro someone ordered 12 packs of water and back here in some stuff to return was 12 packs of the water I need that are in good condition, the Lord has helped me today 

Red you mean duo?
Or actual Mirai Lunala lead in game


"I, erased him. pop"
I call it a bat
Rhymes with Grug
no.
what the fuck does a “gay team” even mean
no he's gay with Throw
Well it's gay team at least
Houston we have a problem
I didn't think about the pilot part 
Wait
It'd be bad for straight man to make gay team anyways
Houston, the Twitlongers are coming
@chrome knot girl I'm sorry the more I think about it the more I realize it's a bad idea 
Mainly the fact that a straight guy is making it
We ain't making it out with this one
yeah scratch that idea please
Yeah that one going in the bin
stream sea lemon instead
Is it a singer
I see
destiny bond iron Val is fun ppl should use it more
Ma'am I think the femtanyl is getting to you cuz you're now listening to a fruit
it’s an animal btw
Ah
I was finna say
Next week you gonna be like "ah yes I love this new hit song from Banana"
- I’m trying a band that’s name has apricot in it
- https://open.spotify.com/track/1rbieHTuGFWstwVk9o7Fgr?si=UDNwAdTBQB668QT2vl5H0A
Banana Man is a banger though
oh ofc it’s tally hall 
Like no question on the apricot part
And yes banger

what’s with the reactions
Idk Emma being meanie
Gas
That song I mean
:(((
:3
closin dat
couldn't not agree on that point
disabled then encored
it takes a turn
ah
so the next turn they should have started struggling
feeling myself for naic :3

pokémon is a sick game
Can I join your party?
its got me dialled tf in rn 
I fear the team is cooked
i need learn sun mu then we ball tf out
I am a nerd
I literally did a full ass analysis on a set of mine
That's literally me talking about one set
ive done replay reviews with friends that went on for 2 1/2 hours
Can I join?
Keep in mind this is a public channel
What you talking about
The channel won’t let me join
What channel?
There's nothing really to join here
This is the competitive discussion channel
Where we discuss about competitive Pokemon about 40% of the time and random bullshit the other 60%
Are you perhaps trying to learn about competitive Pokemon or no
I think they left 
I also usually review my games like right after when they're fresh or like turn by turn
But yeah sometimes I think about em for a minute lol
Can you invite me?
My friend, you are talking in a public Discord server. They are just having a conversation. There is nowhere to invite you
iwi
bnuy
yayyy
I wanna swap scraggy out, he just isn't lasting long enough, need ideas on who I can trade him out with
Is it the coaching set?


do you EV him properly
I did and he still isn't lasting
He is
i run a similar team, it is usually pretty bulky as long as it isnt taking super effective hits from my experience
pretty sure you make him Slower than CIR and Bulky enough to live hits
and under trickroom u threaten them a lot with fakeout, endeavor, and coaching on CIR
like 1-2 neutral ones
Yeah that's what I'm going for but so far it isn't working out
Might have to try and find a new one to train
He keeps getting taken out against this stupid team i keep seeing
(The team I'm fighting is really good I'm just frustrated)
whats ur tera type on it?
Scraggy @ Eviolite
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 84 Def / 172 SpD
Sassy Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Fake Out
- Foul Play
- Coaching
- Detect
Pretty sure this is suppose to be what you run
I'm trying to get more ability patches too rn so I can change to intimidate
Is fairy weak to dark or ghost again?
Oh this version doesn't have knock off
fairy is only weak to Poison and steel
you need Foul play to beat Opposing Calyrex Ice Rider and Other Physical Attackers
Like koridon right
ive seen some versions of that set that run poison tera to resist fairy and fighting but fairy has better overall defensive coverage
if they tera that is
I think my ice rider is too fast cuz he's got 98 in speed, that's after me using berries to make sure its low af
93 not 98 sorry
Cuz i just started making him
I finished the rest of the team before I got the stupid bunny man
the CIR might be faster than other CIRs u will run into but as long as ur scraggy underspeeds it u will still get the coaching value in TR
Ahh okay ty
np 
My kyorgor also sucks lol I needa find water spout to put on him but can't for the life of me find it lol
its a level up move and he only gets it at lvl 90 😭
Thank God I'm close
i use kyogre a lot and every time i get a new one i hate that i need to spend so much candy on it 
this is why me still use the same Kyogre on my Mirai Ogre team
welcome to my world 
i just have a google docs with an analysis on every single play i did in the doc
honk
lol
homk
homk homk
honk (you’re gay) honk homk
meow meow meow meow (you’re gay) meow meow
ohhh….
someone might be a lil gay
i love my wife alot
gay Agenda moment
apparently the homophobic dog name is whitney chewston, i am delighted to this info
i dontttt
oh really? noted
gimme 2 weeks
meow meow

break my neck into 36 pieces
dw she knows this feeling
I caught this thing a few weeks ago to try min speed trickroom Kyogre (not sure if it has any important calcs mostly just for fun)
@craggy dagger how do i make it stoppppp
Atk iv is 1 as well which is pretty cool
i know what you are

she got 20$ worth of something like 2 weeks ago
who knew blinks were a good way to track advances
you dont
😭
you just have to accept it 
:3
i have 6 dollars to my name
i get all my comp stuff from bdsp since the blinks are so easy to track
dumbass
ok nvm mine is always 31 Speed cuz i belive in not tr Kyogre
you gotta level up ur game
blinks are rookie tier
look NSO auto renewed thats why so broke
any higher tier you cant talk of so maybe slow down love
i lnoww
i renewed my boobie pills today @spiral ridge
i know hun you told me you went out for them 😭
oohhh…
at 3 pm love
ohh
i wish i still had my DS, ive heard BW and BW2 are some of the best for comp mons
usum
ooo i see
sapphire
i prefer rolling seeds but some prefer dead battery
gen4 is good for cute charm so makes specific hunts rly quick
and the IDs are rly satisfying
yea im not too familiar with rng, i only got back into pokemon in the nintendo switch era but the blinking looked super easy so i tried picking it up
its very
it was in fact quite easy
Show me Ikea shark
Blahaj reveal now
Silly ikea shark
i cant bro i was a liar so she wouldn’t send me one
-# pings stella
pov of u lookin at zacian as its about to miss play rough

True lmao
treeweeeeeeee
Drago be like on ZacOgre
lmao
I wanna jump off a cliff
Start this tour, get a free win, then go 0-2 after
Now if I lose another set I'm out
ok thats just copium
ok I have a theoretical question and i cba mathing
would a +2 Spe CIR with max speed investment, 31IV, +Speed nature outspeed CSR in TW
this serves 0 Purpose outside of CTS shit
112 Speed is the max speed x 2 you have 224
yea S31 is out so I want to make a meme team
thats so ass
like max bulk investment -Spe nature Hatterene with Agility and Baton Pass
into an AV max speed CIR

what’s the worst planar
also go to bed 
Celestial differeniator?
it’s useable
-8ball is it wise to drop thundy t regardless of the results it makes
is it wise to drop thundy t regardless of the results it makes
:8ball: It is certain

6 eviolite lechonks will bring it home
why is rapid strike here
thats so real
is terapagos csr even good
yes
good morning competitive discussion
gm
gm
gm
9 days until NAIC 
7 days till i fly
are you staying till sunday or monday?
monday also 😄
I think I fly in like 10AM Thursday and leave like 8AM Monday
something like that
can i use the switch 2 in naic?
nope 😦
youd leave sunday if that was the case!!
that is a sick deal
Really? No switch 2 for Pokémon tournaments?
Not for this season at least
It will hopefully be allowed next year
It has to do with the docking ports you plug your switch into
Thank you! I didn't know that!
They’ll prob full transition to switch 2 next pokemon gen as it’ll prob be 2 only anyways
good point, but do we know when that’s coming out?
It’s gotta be 2 years away at least right?
My ultimate hope is that pokemon champions is out sooner rather than later
Lmao some people get so toxic on showdown. It’s wild
They did it for Wii U to switch
Only like a year of games were shared even though it was strong enough for switch games
I use niche Strats for fun, not expecting to win much, but some get so full of themselves when they beat my hisuian Avalugg strat with their top 4 regional copy/paste team.
showdown is super toxic sometimes
EU is especially bad I feel like
Italians will rip you a new one for getting a crit
i've gotten pretty lucky with showdown toxicity
i dont think i've faced many aside from some foreign insults here and there
Ah yes the good ol Italian slurs
Gotta love it
wtf
someone called me a cheater during the time i was in bo3 practice
And all that took to make him say that is during game 3 i called out all of his plays and predicted them
I'm sorry that happened to you!
I don’t know if I’ve ever had a “toxic” showdown experience
Like people have been rude but it’s never that serious I don’t think
those are staged 
Ability: Cloud Nine
While this Pokemon is active, the effects of weather conditions are disabled.
is that for kyogre?
that's just wrong tho
parabolic charge hits all other pokemon on the field
all adjacent pokemon
really?
I'm thinking about using Overheat on Miraidon for Rillaboom and Amoongus since I'm not yet convinced that Dazzling Gleam is what I want
Move: Parabolic Charge
The user recovers 1/2 the HP lost by the target, rounded half up. If Big Root is held by the user, the HP recovered is 1.3x normal, rounded half down.
Type
Electric
Category
Special
Power
65
Accuracy
100
PP (max)
20 (32)
Move Flags
Mirror
Copied by Mirror Move.
Contact
Does not make contact.
Heal
Cannot be selected under Heal Block.
because i thought it was like bulldoze
where it openly states it hits adjacent foes
I change my mind on Overheat now that I've seen Electro Drift calcs-
How we doin chat
What you asking?
overheat is tempting but draco just hits those pokemon the same usually
@rare pumice Dazzling Gleam is good unless you want AV or Scarf or Tera Electric, Electro Drift is always a move you run and Draco yeah just big boom
If you're not Specs Tera Fairy, Snarl is also good
I haven't played competitive in a restricted format since Sword and Shield so I have a lot to learn
But yeah Volt Switch, Drift and Draco are usually like
Your always ran moves unless you're specific sets like a CM Parabolic one
@south shuttle also yes if you haven't seen yet, Parabolic is a move that hits everything on the field
A more defensive set like that would normally be interesting to me but I think I'll try more offense first
Yeah offensive is usually better for Miraidon imo
The most defensive set I like personally is like
AV Tera Electric sets
ah
Yeah
It's why like
If you saw the Parabolic team on stream in Portland, it's why two Pokemon had a Ground tera
Well Zacian Ground Tera Blast is good for other Mirai and other stuff but there's also that
I'm guessing Ursaluna and Archaludon should be my primary focus for countering in order to protect Miraidon
Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhh
Ursaluna yes that is a threat
Archaludon not really
did Archaludon fall off a little or is it just not as big of a problem as I'm thinking?
Archaludon is kind of sitting on the sidewalk asking for change rn
Single restricted it wasn't the best and like
Idt I've seen a singular one across the at least 300 games I've probably played of double restricted
If you're playing Miraidon, you wanna be able to have good MUs into a few things
- Ursaluna
- Rillaboom
- Other Miraidon (though mirrors are usually a bitch anyways)
- Calyrex Ice Rider
Just to name a few
There's also like Calyrex Shadow Rider but if you don't have a MU for that you're genuinely throwing
I'm thinking about getting Grimmsnarl on the team I think that on its own can answer Shadow Rider
On its own nope but it does help
Calyrex Shadow is not a one Mon solved situation
Those screens can be broken thru
The screens are good
But if you only have Grimm for the horse then it's just delaying the inevitable
Well I was more thinking if Sucker Punch was one of the moves I'm using, plus I want Grimmsnarl for his screens anyways on top of that
That won't solve all of them due to terrastalization
A lot except for the Sash variants which can live a hit anyways all run defensive teras like Normal, Fairy or Dark
I always forget to keep that in mind before I reach the battle field
nickelmonke
Right
That's the big thing
and if I'm facing a Shadow Rider I'm guessing they'll focus on Terastalizing that anyways
🎶Look at this snapshot 🎶
No
In front of Grimm yeah or they'll be more conservative
Also for attacks you probably either want Spirit Break or Foul Play tbh
turns you into 47 dollars
does the Quark Drive affect dissipate alongside electric terrain or does it stay after the fact
I need that rn
nuh uh you don’t
noooo
Mhm :3

Are there other viable options for Grimmsnarl other than Light Clay for Battle Stadium or is that non-negotiable
What else would you want
for you to stopppppp
Light Clay is what you want
Those extra turns for screens matters
:(
Besides like only other items for it rn would maybe be Cloak but like
No one Fake Outs the Grimm
Wtffff
theres a bunny at my door soon you know what youve done
I do..
I really like Parting Shot Grimmsnarl
You can use that with clay
Why with my team
The horse breaks thru bro
what if i need screens to not go up this turn
I guess
Idk I'm used to funny horse
Yea monke
Yeah but sometimes more chip better before screen
What if screens loses me the game
Genuinely rn if you're the Life Orb set, just set up a Nasty Plot
Then screens don't mean shit then
but they do…
You think they would
i have been playing csr zam
But try fighting those screens teams, set up a Nasty Plot and see those damage numbers
I feel like if I'm using Parting Shot on Grimmsnarl and since Battle Stadium matches are a little fast I think I might go with Covert Cloak, each turn kind of depends on Grimmsnarl doing what he does best
More soon
In like 3 weeks ish
covert cloak is really good in closed teamsheet
In fact lemme
turns you into a covert cloak @spiral ridge
What does this even mean
Is Skeledirge doing anything right now
ur a covert cloak
No
220 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Rider Astral Barrage vs. 252 HP / 116+ SpD Grimmsnarl: 57-68 (28.2 - 33.6%) -- 0.17% chance to 3HKO
So here's no Nasty Plot
No screens right
ok but there’s another pokemon
220 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Rider Astral Barrage vs. 252 HP / 116+ SpD Grimmsnarl through Light Screen: 38-45 (18.8 - 22.2%) -- possible 5HKO
Here's Light Screen
warming up the bench waiting for the next generation
This is just a nuke to anything
Yeah well just showing numbers here really
But whyyy
ballsack beam😱
how does Shadow Rider break past dark types normally, or is that just up to its teammates
Poor crabrawler
teammates or eventually it has enough boosts to not care
+2 220 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Rider Astral Barrage vs. 252 HP / 116+ SpD Grimmsnarl through Light Screen: 77-91 (38.1 - 45%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
This is with the screen on their side and a Plot boost on your horse
CSR loves Koraidon and Zamazenta rn for that reason
In terms of just raw damage numbers
You are doing more damage thru those screens with the Nasty Plot boost
Than you did without the screen and the boost in mind
it's kind of a funky idea but I'm wondering about Snorlax now
Those screens don't matter as much as you think
they spirit break
Yeah my spirit is broken
Like honestly a Nasty Plot Calyrex against the Utrecht team
Just washes
Spirit break snarl 
Milwaukee ain't bad either
What?
Anyways my point is
The screens don't like dampen your damage as much as you think they do
Milwaukee team I’m guessing
Which is what I'm saying here
Doubles screen moment
Leech seed
I tried that last year it was funny
Welcome to regulation I
Leftovers, sub, leech seed, grassy terrain ice rider
anyone know the interaction between leech seed and psychic noise if the psychic noise lands first?
I tried to do the same with shadow rider but eh the sub would break easily
is it like drain punch where the move fails?
i think seed fails
i'd imagine it would work like that
And sure
"Spirit Break"
But we can go about that whole cycle of what about this
That's part of playing the game
You gotta figure it tf out
thank you
Tera grass, giga drain, leech seed, leftovers shadow rider
the answer is dont lead zam😱
Do screens half damage on spread moves?
When did this even happen
Uhhhh
Dillon what are the numbers?
Isn’t it like 33%?
Isn't it like 33% in doubles?
Screens only block 1/3 of the damage in doubles
Thank you!
Move: Reflect
For 5 turns, the user and its party members take 0.5x damage from physical attacks, or 0.66x damage if in a Double Battle. Damage is not reduced further with Aurora Veil. Critical hits ignore this effect. It is removed from the user's side if the user or an ally is successfully hit by Brick Break, Psychic Fangs, or Defog. Lasts for 8 turns if the user is holding Light Clay. Fails if the effect is already active on the user's side.
Type
Psychic
Category
Status
Power
0
Accuracy
—
PP (max)
20 (32)
Move Flags
Protect
Bypasses Protect-like moves.
Contact
Does not make contact.
Snatch
Affected by Snatch.
yeah 0.66
A third ok
I think it's 50% in singles
It’s .66
if Calyrex uses Psyshock would the damage be halved by Light Screen or Reflect?
yeah screens in singles are stronger in doubles
Light screen I believe
reflect
reflect since it deals physical dmg
Reflect
Oh what
Reflect actually
It is taking Defense into account
special damage but does on physical defense
Strange
wait never mind
: it uses the user's Special Attack, activates Mirror Coat and Maranga Berry (not Counter or Kee Berry), has its damage reduced by Light Screen (not Reflect), etc.
Like Psyshock can be boosted by Chien Pao
Damn that kinda fried my brain a little
the showdown damage calculator says light screen halves it but I'm not sure if it's just not accounting for psyshock's confusion or not
Psyshock’s a weird move
Move: Psyshock
Deals damage to the target based on its Defense instead of Special Defense.
Type
Psychic
Category
Special
Power
80
Accuracy
100
PP (max)
10 (16)
Move Flags
Mirror
Copied by Mirror Move.
Contact
Does not make contact.
conner is right
So some call me the goat for knowing weird interactions
It's probably light screen then
I thought that screens blocked 50% of damage until I was playing a win and in for day 2 a couple years ago and I got a crit that I thought mattered but my opponent told me I always knocked out
I’m the wrong guy to ask for that
I never really knew that interaction
Too bad I folded too quickly
I just click buttons
LOL
lol
I just attack
I just Groudon
ALL I DO IS MISS MISS MISS NO MATTER WHATTT 🎶
Got money on my mind
Got gravity on my mind
Exactly
would the current format be too dangerous for Snorlax
Got missing on my mind
Absolutely
There’s cases actually
Yes, unless you’re tofu
Thick fat goated
I wonder if he made a snorlax team
Resists both horses
Assault vest thick fat snorlax
If Snorlax fits in this meta, I'm eating my shoe
Well I don’t know if it “fits”
But it can definitely be used
@mighty stump get on it sir
True snorlax is like FAT
Doesn’t this look delicious monke wdym
not sure snorlax fits in anything
I mean it does but not very nutritious
Probably right
Like what are the macros in a Nike shoe
Belly drum couldn’t work though
For some reason I taste chocolate
Bad I’m guessing
Oh right DELTARUNE TODAY
Toby Fox is a person sent from God
Sent from arceus
I only ever played chapter 1
how does Corviknight do as an Ursaluna answer
Good but bad into everything else
Yeah
If you want a better Ursaluna answer there’s been some pick up in Sinistcha
Bro will get cooked by miraidon/raging bolt
reflect+Whatever the fuck has decent enoiugh bulk works
CIR 😔
I hate how bulky he is
Rage powder Sinistcha
does Raging Bolt run Discharge
No
But miraidon does
Let’s nerf calyrex next gen/in champions
Rarely
🙏🙏🙏
Or snarl
Or protect
No lol
At least not normally, most Mirai are choice locked or av
Unless youre the parabolic charge set
Wait miraidon knows thunderclap?
No
I thought we were talking about raging bolt
I thought we were talking about miraidon
Yeah that would be me
yooo random thought that most people might not care about but last year at the end of June they released a ton of details about the upcoming season of IRL tournaments.
Stuff like asymmetric cut, point totals, BFLs, etc. So hopefully we have some news coming soon 🙂
Electric seed/leftovers miraidon
Also shoutout me for being COMPLETELY wrong
I’m interested that if I play next season
Didn’t have the funds this year to do anything, or friends

where on earth was the target ever gonna be that low
what quark drive users would pair well with Miraidon and Grimmsnarl in your opinion. So far I'm thinking Iron Valient maybe, or perhaps Iron Moth
Iron hands
are we talking about the right electric/dragon type
If you pick anything it’s iron hands
I don’t know what I was smoking
Nah bro Zekrom
on everything
2 months later I said 800 which was at least closer hahaha
and its not negotiable
my guess has been 930+
I’m so curious for if they’re gonna do anything to worlds qualification. I really really hope they do, but I don’t actually think they will
It’s pretty hard to get in which sucks
is Electric Seed Iron Hands an option then
Yeah, it kills a lot of people’s desire to play the game and travel. It’s a tough balancing act pokémon has to deal with
Av or clam
They want an exclusive (and cheaper) worlds but it’s at the cost of your average/slightly above average player having a good shot to go if they’re committed
Assault vest
All of my IRL friends have quit outside of driving distance regionals
Thank you
That’s unfortunate
You do have to be really good to have a chance at a worlds invite
Ontop of it just being really expensive
In this meta game if you are playing future paradox mons that is not Hands,bundle or treads, you are fucking throwing
Ouchb
ig juggy as well
but iron valiant and flutter mane 
Is fluttermane a FUTURE paradox Mon?
Anyways I gotta go run errands but before that
My hot take
yes
I still have stocks in this bitch


I’m starting to understand dursh
Why Lunala?
Wide guard
Bruh if the criteria for being the best restricted was wide guard we could put pelipper up there
In the double restricted reg Lunala definitely shines
Yeah worlds invite realistically has to cost at LEAST $1000 unless you’re very very good at the game OR living like a homeless person at regionals
and for most people it’s probably double or triple that
Do people do that?
Triple restricted format 🔥
wide guard+Perfect Utility Mon for your main damage restricteds
that happened in 2010
there are people who just bum the floor of someone they know’s hotel
The BLACK/white days
its DPPt
Damn, that’s rough
Really?
You pay for the flight then live on the floor
how would Gliscor do right now
Yikes
olivia sleeping on our couch @ bnb
ray rizzo won worlds 2010 with Groudon Kyogre and Dialga
good for singles bad for doubles
alright
it doesn't
252 Atk Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Ice Shard vs. 244 HP / 36 Def Gliscor: 144-172 (79.5 - 95%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Poison Heal
alright what about Bronzong
9 years late but its workable
Fari beats it out of the water
alright
Well then an ice beam/glacial lance would
Using gliscor in doubles just- bleh
Wasn’t there a brief moment in reg h where it was good
I remember it being a good check to Sneasler
Yeah reg h
Let’s not, we’re stuck in this format for a few months
Might as well just embrace it at this rate
Or not play
I think Bronzong might be my Ursaluna answer
i'm just taking a mental break and not play for now
Kung fu bear , the whale, the popsicle cat, the horse gliscor is a no go
ummmmm acktuacly
Yeah I haven’t played this current format in a while
252+ Atk Guts Ursaluna Facade (140 BP) vs. 100 HP / 0 Def Tera Bug Iron Hands through Reflect: 130-154 (53.7 - 63.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
252+ Atk Guts Ursaluna Headlong Rush vs. 100 HP / 0 Def Tera Bug Iron Hands through Reflect: 56-66 (23.1 - 27.2%) -- possible 5HKO
Has many great sets rn, is a restricted that synergizes well with a bunch of mons and Shadow Shield is broken
Some other things too
Im out laterr
Ic
how common is trick room right now?
pretty
imprison Bronzong is starting to interest me then
Dark Urshifu is starting to interest me more than rapid
bronzong’s biggest issue is folding to calyrex shadow rider and lunala
if you can have great matchups into those two otherwise, then sure
Well I would only really need to bring out against trick room teams so that won't always be an issue for me (in Battle Stadium Doubles btw)
it should probably stop
Shadow rider u can wide guard if u can but yeh Lunala is sometimes more difficult
Bronzong's moveset:
Physical Moves
Body Press, Body Slam, Bulldoze, Earthquake, Explosion, Facade, Feint Attack, Frustration, Giga Impact, Gyro Ball, Hard Press, Heavy Slam, Ice Spinner, Iron Head, Natural Gift, Payback, Return, Rock Blast, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Rollout, Secret Power, Steel Roller, Stomping Tantrum, Strength, Tackle, Take Down, Zen Headbutt
Special Moves
Ancient Power, Charge Beam, Confusion, Dream Eater, Expanding Force, Extrasensory, Flash Cannon, Future Sight, Grass Knot, Hex, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Meteor Beam, Night Shade, Power Gem, Psybeam, Psychic, Psychic Noise, Psyshock, Psywave, Round, Shadow Ball, Signal Beam, Snore, Solar Beam, Steel Beam, Stored Power, Tera Blast, Weather Ball
Status Moves
Ally Switch, Block, Calm Mind, Confide, Confuse Ray, Double Team, Endure, Flash, Gravity, Guard Swap, Heal Block, Helping Hand, Hypnosis, Imprison, Iron Defense, Light Screen, Metal Sound, Power Swap, Protect, Psych Up, Psychic Terrain, Rain Dance, Recycle, Reflect, Rest, Rock Polish, Safeguard, Sandstorm, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Speed Swap, Stealth Rock, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Telekinesis, Toxic, Trick, Trick Room, Wonder Room
Notes
A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Bronzong.
what about Wide Guard Armarouge?
What about wide guard smeargle?
are you still running miraidon? If so then Iron Valiant is a decent option
wide guard/spirit break/close combat/4th move
COACHHHHH
wg taunt
I played against a feint valiant at milwaukee and that shit was annoying
what the
it completely changed my matchup cause oger-rock/CIR wasn't as safe
but luckily volc was my goat
it was miraidon/CIR
retweet
https://pokepast.es/11d355c2a8ddff60 this team is what I've cobbled together so far
we will both reach the promised land
🫡
what is the Hands EV spread for
do u also click astral barrage
what?
Fluttermane isn’t a future paradox lol
the speed is for outspeeding Grimmsnarl and below and the rest is just as much attack and sp.def as possible
I click EVIL leech seed and EVIL glacial lances
Just bring a watering can and pour it on the switch during sun MU
just tested myself, it'll still go off just wont heal CIR
that's a shame was really hoping it would fail
Bummer
ohhh you have half working sun mu and bad csr zam mu…
we choosing to struggle alot here
oh damn
I actually have a terrible sun matchup too bc of tera types and my other restricted
chat how do i convince my friend to use volc
that happened to me once 😦
NOOO PLEASSE
did you clear your cookies?
Happened to nova recently too I think
Volcarona’s really cool
i tried 😭 we've been theorizing scarf mirai too i feel like that's really good into the meta but he says volc's ass
firefox reinstalled ;-;-;
ah shit that'll do it I think
I am much better with it than I was at NAIC last year lol
did you manage to save any of them to the showdown server
The volc on that team made no sense
Rip
that's horrible
That’s a lot of lost teams damn
Scarf Mirai + Volcarona is already most of your CSR/Zama matchup, your mate is missing out
hot take other than building timeline shitposts i delete all my teams
Do you save your ev spreads?
😦
only if they were good and not just slider spreads
Valid
I’ve watched my spreads wipe multiple times
It happens and it sucks
fuck mannn
its because i was doing some programing shit on p5.js and it crashed firefox
im actually lowkey hearbroken lmao
you guys know any way to get cashed stuff back
hopefully you're able to find some teams you've sent in paste form or in images in the server
iron hands naturally outspeed in TR,also Prankster always have Priority over status moves so make Hands as slow as possible
don't see an vision on making it faster than Grimm who 90% always goes first thanks to prankster screens and Twave
yeah I guess vision is something I'm lacking in, it's just that I have trick room on the team to cancel out opposing trick rooms, so I'm not sure if I should have Iron Hands have speed investment or not
usually not unless its balance teams without trick room
Alright, thank you
OH SHIT
100 HP 156 Atk 252 SpD then you fine
speaking of that i might as well put my successful teams in a team doc
Holy shit insane resource someone just shared on Twitter
saves a lot of leg work
yippee my team dodges the sheet
ohh i see cool!
fuck idk if this is working
i got my reg g teams back i guess
a few reg is
i had waaay more tho but its okay could be worse
I decided to try my hand at making a team around a different Restricted Pokemon instead of Miraidon, and this is what I've come up with so far https://pokepast.es/b43cab2ae006f883
mmmmm
Pretty heavy TR so prob cir
What is cir?
calyrex ice rider
alright thank you, I'm unfamiliar with some of the acronyms and terms
Wha?
Can I question your ursuluna
it maxes @ 222spe
Oh
What’s 150 then
i think someone punched Emma so hard that they speaks stuff
I am in need of many questions, I need to learn as much as I can
150 it’s base speed
she is preferred
Pokémon No. 898: Calyrex-Ice
Types
Psychic/Ice
Abilities
As One (Glastrier)
HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe
100/165/150/85/130/50
Total
680
Base Species
Calyrex
Could be 200 
yes please do
Why is it leftovers
Why no protect
Why moonlight
yes yes no
If no protect isn’t AV just always better
do not av ever on hard tr
I have a different AV user in mind right now, but if I use leftovers would protect be better then
lorb tera normal or delete it
What Mon we talking about?
Listen to Emma here ima trust her more
ffirst CIR then Ursaluna
Lorb is life orb btw
I guess that makes sense for a hard trick room team
????
Blursa-
jus go bloodmoon hyper voice earth power protect @ life orb tera normal
this chat is something else-
SAY BLURSA THE FIRST TIME MORRIS
I am thinking about putting Kingambit on the trick room team to better resist both Calys but I'm not sure how sure I am
do mot
My brain thinks of normal Ursa
i thought you looked at the teamsheet ;-;
Nope
put urshifu dark
Dark Shifu saves the day
I do like Urshifu dark
would I still train Urshifu in speed for when trick room is down or do I try to make it work with low speed
0spe choice band
thank you

switch 

Got my receipt to pick up my switch 2 at 11 lol
Same hahaha
Has sylveon ever been able to learn wrap?
damn where haev you been-
Spamming Pokemon tech games lol
Kinda over violet and scarlet lol
Tcg*
is kanto Arcanine generally not viable in a format with Incineroar/with restricted pokemon
yea
I thought so sadly
incineroar outclasses it in almost every aspect
and I'd imagine its hisuian counterpart outclasses it in what ever is left over
not exactly actually
in reg e where both were allowed and incin wasn't in the game yet both had similar usage
arcanine hisui is a more offensive intimidate mon
arcanine resembles incineroar a bit more as its built bulkier
I think my favorite defensive set for a fire type I've used is Volcarona even if I don't have a high success rate
volc is a good pokemon right now
works well as a with quiver dance under screens or as support
is Iron Moth able to work defensively too?
not in National dex format if Incin exists
But otherwise its still good
If you look at the stats
Pokémon No. 994: Iron Moth
Types
Fire/Poison
Abilities
Quark Drive
HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe
80/70/60/140/110/110
Total
570
nope
they're very different pokemon
iron moth is def not built to be defensive
I have a defensive Crobat set that I like using in story playthroughs in older games that makes me really wish the power level wasn't as high as it is sometimes
Pokémon No. 637: Volcarona
Types
Bug/Fire
Abilities
Flame Body, Swarm (Hidden)
HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe
85/60/65/135/105/100
Total
550

how do we tell him
like genuinely how do we tell him
It is worse defensively I thought it wasn’t lol
volc at least has the tools to be good support with flame body + rage powder + will-o-wisp etc
Moth is just offensive and slither wing is dogshit
lol
Which is unfortunate cuz that’s one of my favorite paradox mons
Is this Volcarona propaganda?
also Crobat only purpose is that
Beat Xerneas
but neither are even in this game
(I love Volcarona)
Volc is great
Weaker defensively but flame body helps in that regard
And Zac Mirai is clunky
i will gladly spread volc propaganda i love volc
It’s actually not horrible on rain but yeah it would rather be an Incin
Goat activities
random question but if my eviolite user gets hit with knock off, is the damage calculated before or after the item is knocked off
Passive and loser support Volc vs winner and offensive QD Volc
Before
i see ty
before
octillery
QD Volc is ass, I'll keep those stocks invested
I think Zama Mirai QD Volc can pop off at NAIC
Just say you like Joe's team again
Watching everyone on the switch 2 tmrw while I can’t transfer my data until after NAIC
transfer a diff sabe
like I transferring my violet and leaving my scarlet on switch 1 for naic
I haven't even bought it
worlds is on switch 1 too right?
nothing on that yet iirc
I presume so with the docking problem
i would’ve stood outside for hours to get it but there’s no point for me to get it at the same time
I'm just waiting to buy it that way I can see whatever is wrong with it
Unless they can makes dock that work for switch 1 and 2 i don't think switch 2 will be allowed yet on regional or word
Right now it's not allowed for NAIC
btw
Fair enough early release console ussualy have some defect in a way
Neil got top 1 on showdown ladder with toxic pagos

It isn't bad
emma caused this
Its basically the same leech seed CIR reasoning
@chrome knot explain yourself
what the fuck-
disgrace
Eternatus seem's really have fat chance to be meta
i love how Gen 6-8 have fast paced Double res Format while Gen 9 we have Stall
Too many bulky restricted
We don't have gigantamax or dynamax anymore too brute force throught stall
Me reaching for the officer's firearm
Oh yeah and tera makes the matter worse
ya know sometimes Urshifu may be a necessary evil
It always were that's why i hope it doesn't get nerfed on future gen
Urshifu is necessary
Without it stall will thrive unless they introduce some gimmick that can dish out damage like z moves
fellas if you dont run urshifu ggs
Yeah i think people would prefer seeing urhsifu than watching a stally match on regional
this dude technically hold on the line to gen 9 being so stally
Thank god CSR Zama won the latest event
Cuz last 3 times are bulk
Watching toxic and protect stall everywhere will just makes regional boring as hell
i only barely won against Stall by a timer cuz i got more health than the opponent even tho i have lesser mons
I was already running it so 
It's June 14th, you get to the venue to play the North American International Championship with your Leech Seed Calyrex Ice Rider and Miraidon team, as you sit on your chair to play the first round, your opponent gives you their teamsheet, you read it, it's a Toxic Terapagos team
Fuckin masterclass set if I've ever heard one
im not looking forward to naic if im gonna be watching pagos and CIR stall
not fun gameplay to watch
atp even FO cycling is more entertaining
I guess there a good reason why we need some broken damage dealer restricted
Except that stall plays fake out cycling
thats even worse
Let's gooo
ok thats even worse
to watch
MDB's team had Incin and Hands
we must fight with Urshifus in this one
Pagos teams play Rilla Incin
Ooof
"You're NAIC champion is MDB with toxic terapagos"
me: GET ME OUT OF THIS HELL
Yeah i think if stall team become meta we will see more urhsifu in play again
Leech seed caly and toxic terapagos everywhere bloody hell yeah i'm not sure if i want to touch cart ladder for a while



