#competitive_discussion

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solid frigate
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also i legit have fun using CIR in reg G so he's here

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its just i spammed so much Miraidon and Kyogre in reg G

chrome knot
rustic mountain
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idk its just funny seeing a tier list and 1 category is "yea i tried these" and thats it

lofty tartan
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Man six hours til the end of my job. Can't end soon enough magisweat

shadow wind
chrome knot
shadow wind
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Back in Hoenn

bold geode
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LMAO

shadow wind
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"Too much water"

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How the heck do you think Groudon feels

chrome knot
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actually i needa fix this

solid frigate
molten oasis
chrome knot
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i 1 tricked cir balance all of reg g lol

molten oasis
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You did lol

solid frigate
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i just swapped from

Terapagos>Kyogre>Miraidon>Miraidon>CIR

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and then for double res

rustic mountain
solid frigate
rustic mountain
bold geode
chrome knot
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mirai came pretty natural to me when practicing openers on miraidon teams to prep for cir/mirai compositions

csr was fun on balance when I prepped w/ lorcy & mattie morgan for euic&vancouver

lunala I played a bunch in USPA and she was my GOAT

cm kyogre I only used in showdown practice when I was bored of CIR and it was really cute and fun to be annoying with

ndw is for the psyspam girlies

pagos required a lot of balance fundamentals that I had lacked, and it would be very apparent in my gameplay which lead me to stray away from it alot

zac/zam felt weird to me to pilot and I didn't really enjoy it early reg i

koraidons play style of trading % of HP for positive trades always didnt settle with how I like playing

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the silly explanation

molten oasis
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Mostly just won’t play horses (ik the disadvantage I’m putting myself in)

solid frigate
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Terapagos is my first restricted mostly because i think its interesting CM team without fake out cycling

Kyogre is just i love Rain

The only reason i even become a Miraidon main is Iron Crown lol

molten oasis
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that’s totally why I couldn’t pick anything every duo is something+horse

bold geode
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@rustic mountain what we think of Ho Oh now

molten oasis
shadow wind
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Sometimes I forgot freeze dry can freeze

rustic mountain
molten oasis
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Yk it’s bad when solgaleo is above groudon

chrome knot
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cir is goat fuck you!!!!!

bold geode
rustic mountain
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i honestly only put it up there cuz of zacs team

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u could put it in why too and i wouldnt disagree

bold geode
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LMAO ngl shit is gas

rustic mountain
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it kinda was

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he played it really well too

bold geode
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I tried it
It's gas

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He released a rental

solid frigate
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don't mind me just played the GC team and weep

rustic mountain
tiny karmaBOT
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Move: Ice Fang

Has a 10% chance to freeze the target and a 10% chance to make it flinch.

Type

Ice

Category

Physical

Power

65

Accuracy

95

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Bite

Boosted by Strong Jaw.

Contact

Makes contact.

astral kelp
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this move is so ass thats why LMAO

bold geode
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Tree you want the Zac rental KEKW

astral kelp
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youre like forced to use dice

tiny karmaBOT
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Move: Icicle Spear

Hits two to five times. Has a 35% chance to hit two or three times and a 15% chance to hit four or five times. If one of the hits breaks the target's substitute, it will take damage for the remaining hits. If the user has the Skill Link Ability, this move will always hit five times. If the user is holding Loaded Dice, this move will hit 4-5 times.

Type

Ice

Category

Physical

Power

25

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

30 (48)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

rustic mountain
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i think miraidon and csr tho have the most use case of being splashable whilst still being extremely potent options in quite a few different kind of comps

solid frigate
rustic mountain
bold geode
astral kelp
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miraidon would literally work in every team and still do a billion damage

bold geode
solid frigate
bold geode
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Anyways you think Ho Oh just ok?

astral kelp
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why do people treat solgaleo like mr weakness policy btw

tiny karmaBOT
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Solgaleo [Psychic/Steel]
Immune

Poison

Resists (0.25x)

Psychic

Resists (0.5x)

Dragon, Fairy, Flying, Grass, Ice, Normal, Rock, Steel

Neutral damage

Bug, Electric, Fighting, Stellar, Water

Weak (2x)

Dark, Fire, Ghost, Ground

Type Notes

Steel-types cannot be Poisoned.
Steel-types take no damage from Sandstorm.

solid frigate
rustic mountain
bold geode
rustic mountain
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it was a good meta call and i feel like ppl adjusted

astral kelp
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idk i feel like you should just go camulet or lorb

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hes basically like trick room zacian right

astral kelp
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with way way worse typing damage and everything

bold geode
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Ice Rider Kyogre is rough but like
Other than that, you look at the other Pokemon in the meta now
Ho Oh still ain't bad
Zacian got better
Zam CSR got better

solid frigate
rustic mountain
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idt zam csr got better i think ppl abandoned it too quickly

astral kelp
rustic mountain
astral kelp
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i literally like know this too

molten oasis
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What is a generally fun duo to play? I should go and experiment with other duos, think for the most part I got my zacian things down

bold geode
astral kelp
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so foolish of me

bold geode
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Trust me

solid frigate
molten oasis
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idk, ig I can give the horse a shot I don’t like Tera syncs tho

bold geode
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I mean
Eh you tera it less than you'd think with good plays
Want my team?

molten oasis
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is it incin rilla shit

shadow wind
bold geode
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No

rustic mountain
shadow wind
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Most undeserved win in history oh my god

molten oasis
astral kelp
bold geode
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Ok just don't share with too many people plz

molten oasis
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I won’t

astral kelp
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like ive been running a similiar zama csr team since early reg i and it just feels better in showdown ladder now

rustic mountain
astral kelp
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yeye

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cuz like when you think about it

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zama csr should be decent into mirai cir no?

molten oasis
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Decent, but leech seed CIR sucks for Zama

rustic mountain
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its like 60/40 in the zama/csr favor depending on team comps

astral kelp
solid frigate
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I realised i have multiple versions lol
from Bottom to top

Reg G times theorycraft (Discharge Mirai Era)
GS Cup,faced Jeudy
Mirai Ogre Roaring Moon with Healing
Mirai Ogre Roaring Moon with more Offense
Beta Mirai Ogre
Fuck Trick Room Mirai Ogre
Final Version

astral kelp
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wait could i see your discharge mirai set

solid frigate
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its literally the same as my Dgleam version but tera Electric

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also yes i always loves this duo since reg G wave 1

shadow wind
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Is there any point in looking back on a set if all the games came down to like 1 turn?

astral kelp
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i had a set in a tournament that i lost twice to a final turn crit :(
it was like months ago BUT IM STILL MAD
but like thinking back i made some risky ass plays that i couldve done better

shadow wind
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Oh yeah I just lost to a draco miss + sludge bomb poison + like 2 3 turn sleeps

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Like I feel like I don't need to look back at that

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I'm also realizing I never save games to look back on them

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Which isn't good

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I think

solid frigate
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all my games can be summarised as like this

astral kelp
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man I wish showdown was sponsered by pokemon in a way that gives them full creative control
could you imagine how much they could do, they are already a HUGE advert for pokemon and singlehandedly fuel their competitive scene
it would be awesome if we had like a full on replay database and stuff

astral kelp
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yeah i knowwww

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but its prolly gonna be like nintendo shitified

molten oasis
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Played a game of CSR Zama, busted lmao

solid frigate
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i'm still on the way of the dragon

astral kelp
molten oasis
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Nope

solid frigate
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nope

molten oasis
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Never have

solid frigate
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I think i accidentally made Drago's Set when i was building Zac

astral kelp
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this acceptable?

astral kelp
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tera fire because of all the wisp incins pretty much lol

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my team still gets fucking shit on by land ;-;

molten oasis
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Zacian @ Rusted Sword
Ability: Intrepid Sword
Level: 50
Tera Type: Stellar
EVs: 132 HP / 172 Atk / 4 Def / 28 SpD / 172 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Iron Head
  • Play Rough
  • Swords Dance
  • Protect
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This is my spread, Tera and 3rd move are pretty interchangeable

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And I like running a taunt Mon/volc/Hearthflame to deal with wisp so you can tera into smth that doesn’t remain weak to ground

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I play stellar for damage and comfortably

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This eats +2 barrage

forest arrow
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I think Hooh has a time to shine in this upcoming regional with all the csrzama

languid ocean
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I kept getting burned over and over from sacred fire

astral kelp
languid ocean
astral kelp
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whats your current full team?

molten oasis
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I mean, that’s fine. Uh what are you looking for

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Kyogre? Miraidon?

astral kelp
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csr

molten oasis
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I don’t play Zac CSR

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it’s terrible into incin

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If you WERE to tho, peli shifu rilla+1

solid frigate
astral kelp
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i always do that somehow lmao mb

molten oasis
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lol

astral kelp
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fuck cornerstone

shadow wind
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Who does this guy think he is

astral kelp
atomic mural
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im finally doing it

astral kelp
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entretainment :D?

atomic mural
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hell yeah

astral kelp
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we love entrainment

solid frigate
shadow wind
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Like you wanna see it?

solid frigate
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I wanna se it so i can nitpick

shadow wind
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Well it's long gone

solid frigate
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poliwhirlkek use your memory

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does it have trick room

shadow wind
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Man this was like 20 minutes ago I have no idea

solid frigate
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aight

atomic mural
molten oasis
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Not having to work for wins feels nice

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This duo is fucking stupid

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Out of 20 games

shadow wind
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I just played a best of 3 against this and it took no jokes 24 minutes

shadow wind
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I just played a Landorus who is min speed

molten oasis
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i ran into a min speed basculegion

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and iron ball min speed kyogre

shadow wind
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Min speed Bascu is weird but at least the Kyogre is obvious cause iron ball

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Miraidon might be the dumbest pokemon ever made

molten oasis
lofty tartan
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Omg two hours left and I just want to check out completely right now lol

molten oasis
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you're so close

lofty tartan
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I'm so mentally checked out

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Then I gotta stay awake all day so I can flip my sleep schedule, so I'm gonna buckle down and get that mod released today

chrome knot
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best of luck

lofty tartan
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Gah 5 minutes left!

chrome knot
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2 more minutes

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60 seconds yay!!!

sharp cobalt
lofty tartan
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Freeeeedom!

lofty tartan
# sharp cobalt Until what

Today was my last day at my garbage job. I'm taking a big pay increase to go work with the homeless in a neighboring city where I was homeless 20 years ago

azure ether
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Does VGCpastes have a filter option? I wanna make a team with a core of CIR, Koraidon, and Raging Bolt

foggy lodge
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I don't think it does

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But I think someone made top cut with it at Milwaukee?

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Yeh kinda similar

next stump
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let me link it once i’m on my PC

next stump
next stump
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I filtered so that it would only show official tournament results with CIR, Koraidon, and Bolt

left bobcat
solid frigate
# next stump

Dillon Iron Ball Kyogre geniunely Suckass to fight-

foggy lodge
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Miraidon CSR is good but I hate Chi-Yu + Incin

astral kelp
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lol lets do some dumb shit

azure ether
next stump
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you're very welcome 🙂

exotic grotto
solid frigate
atomic mural
astral kelp
next stump
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man low ladder is always SO bad

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do you guys think there are AI bots programmed to play this game sometimes

foggy lodge
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Yeah

next stump
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even my 13 year old students in pokemon club are way better than some of these people

foggy lodge
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Its not normal having +100 games and still be in 1100

chrome knot
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lcq team for tomorrow, wish me luck

spiral ridge
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You got thisssd

next stump
chrome knot
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tyyy

next stump
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do you need to win?

chrome knot
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yeaah

next stump
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how many people do you guess are gonna be there?

chrome knot
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at least 20

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since 21 players are filtered out due to already being qualified

next stump
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so there will be a tourney in june/july for cash for players who qualify?

chrome knot
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yeah the following weekend

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$1200 prizepool

next stump
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god damn that’s crazy

chrome knot
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yeah

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i hope i can clutch up tmrw i kept getting t4, 2nd placements previously

dense latch
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maybe that’s what they’re doing lmao

solid frigate
solid frigate
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its just they don't learn

next stump
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so is it official, are we gonna see Mika at a regional next season?

solid frigate
chrome knot
# solid frigate gl

tyyy tho ngl im panicked asf bc i went 0/2 on things that would refocus and centre my brain but both had to be delayed till later

solid frigate
bold geode
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Emma you got this

shadow wind
lofty tartan
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I'm essentially doubling my take-home pay

chrome knot
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yippee

lofty tartan
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Hell I'm looking at houses right now 👀

Wife and I are making some decisions 👀

lofty tartan
chrome knot
lofty tartan
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That would be rad

chrome knot
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would be nice

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distance kinda sucks

lofty tartan
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Oh for sure. When my kid was born, my wife and I didn't live with each other, and actually lived a good deal apart. She would drop my daughter off with me when she went into work in the morning

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It was rough

chrome knot
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ohh jeez you had it a bittt worse

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being with her often is really nice its just went you have to go home from a trip

lofty tartan
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She had it pretty bad - she was driving 45 minutes each way

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Yeah saying goodbye is a drag

chrome knot
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having the love of your life nearly sob in your arms that they don’t want you to leave is

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probably the worst feeling on earth

lofty tartan
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Oh for sure

chrome knot
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alsoalso i get to annihilate my bank account soon :3

chrome knot
# lofty tartan Oh for sure

on top of that when home its the slow feeling in the back of mind that is being touch starved and missing being held like a babyFukingDies

next stump
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hopefully they’re good with their stock this year

lofty tartan
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I wanna take my kid sometime.

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She'd lose it, 100%

chrome knot
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ngl look at the date of mine i be assuming i dont make day 2 with this one

next stump
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LOL

chrome knot
next stump
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I got a Thursday one to be safe but had Saturday last year

chrome knot
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if nobody got me at least pokemon centre at 10am can cheer me up

lofty tartan
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Rooting for you guys SealFlex

next stump
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nothing will be as bad as Worlds pokemon center, legit probably 4 hour wait to enter

chrome knot
next stump
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and there were hella Japanese players/spectators who were camping the store

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like they’d sit inside the store waiting for restocks

chrome knot
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whatda

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thats freaky asl

next stump
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and THEN they’d sit on the sidewalk outside the venue and scalp everything they bought

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it was crazyyyy

chrome knot
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wtfff

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at milwaukee someone was tryina trade fake tcg cards outside

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was funny asf

molten oasis
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Sounds about right lol

tiny karmaBOT
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[Latest Gen] Terapagos
Toxic:
  • As Terapagos from a TM, HM or TR
chrome knot
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wtf.

dense latch
bold geode
chrome knot
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no reasonnn

bold geode
spiral ridge
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Leech seed cir toxic pagos…

craggy dagger
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sounds worse than something i’d make

spiral ridge
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@stark kindle Annihilate

dense latch
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we're getting a lot of these lately damn

gentle cragBOT
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🔨 Banned .guymanxd. indefinitely

spiral ridge
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Tyyy

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Also I forget if that’s mod ping worthy or not so just pinged you :3

stark kindle
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It is ye

spiral ridge
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Kk

craggy dagger
spiral ridge
bold geode
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@stark kindle DID I MISS THE FUNNY LINK AGAIN

stark kindle
bold geode
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I'll never meet any hot women in my area GengarSad

stark kindle
bold geode
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Plz I don't wanna

bold geode
pallid hare
bold geode
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Don't even ask this mfer about Tom Segura, he's got some lovely videos of him

pallid hare
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have you tried telling him to stop?

bold geode
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Tbh I've seen weirder shit so like

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It doesn't actually bother me but at the same time like I don't think

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Honestly if anything I'm kinda perplexed

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Like I wanna know more
I wanna know how it's been shaped to this point

stark kindle
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Legally monke can't tell me to stop. Im his boss

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Power dynamic and all that innit

bold geode
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Mod abuse smh

stark kindle
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Monke abuse

bold geode
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That's not abuse

stark kindle
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Just for like clariy tho ye

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One of the last thing monke dmd me was a guy shitting in a urinal

bold geode
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Peak

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Before that at some point I sent him a pic of a horse vomiting in a store

stark kindle
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Ye like. He's not innocent i promise

pallid hare
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so, neither of you are innocent, got it

bold geode
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No not at all

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You'd hate to see my fyp just sayin

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It's either offensive memes or brainrot, with the every so often dance video or some other random shit

solid frigate
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Monke Abuse moment

lofty tartan
bold geode
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Like the rat dance

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My ass could not do this to save my life
And it's legitimately so fucking simple

chrome knot
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ow

late lodge
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I need help

dense latch
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my friend and i built this team trying out thundy cir kyogre so far very fun

dense latch
late lodge
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Can anyone help me with a good trick rooms team? Like idk if I wanna run two truck room, two support, two sweepers or one trick room one support 4 sweepers

dense latch
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what restricteds are you thinking of using

late lodge
dense latch
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that's not a restricted btw

late lodge
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It’s for New Orleans on June 13

dense latch
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best performing teams at the latest regionals

late lodge
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Thanks man. It’s my first event and it’s close to home like a 2 hour drive

molten oasis
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Would highly suggest Mirai CIR or Mirai Lunala

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Both are pretty strong

bold geode
late lodge
gentle cragBOT
solid frigate
dense latch
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we've kinda been laddering together but he uses that account more than i do

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but i was spectating

chrome knot
late lodge
chrome knot
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im also going to naic lol

next stump
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NAIC is a great first tournament to attend, you’ll have fun 🙂

chrome knot
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yippee

next stump
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make sure you try to show up either the day before or early the morning of

foggy lodge
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Found this set from some time ago but still

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Any ideas of how to play this better?

molten oasis
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A reg g set?

tiny karmaBOT
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Okidogi [Poison/Fighting]
Resists (0.25x)

Bug

Resists (0.5x)

Dark, Fighting, Grass, Poison, Rock

Neutral damage

Dragon, Electric, Fairy, Fire, Ghost, Ice, Normal, Steel, Stellar, Water

Weak (2x)

Flying, Ground

Weak (4x)

Psychic

Type Notes

Poison-types cannot be Poisoned.

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Poison
Does not hit

Steel

Hits for 0.5x

Ghost, Ground, Poison, Rock

Hits for 1x

Bug, Dark, Dragon, Electric, Fighting, Fire, Flying, Ice, Normal, Psychic, Stellar, Water

Hits for 2x

Fairy, Grass

astral kelp
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is it worth using gunk shot over poison jab

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on the dogi

molten oasis
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Probably

astral kelp
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i like the idea

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good coverage

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lets see lol

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Also I was looking at zekroms stats it legit doesn't seem that bad

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Wait I need a trick room mode shit uhh

molten oasis
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Why are we playing zekrom AND Rayquaza on the same team?

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This looks pretty bad into CIR

astral kelp
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Lol my idea was tailwind

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I was gonna go hooh but I wanted to try zekrom

astral kelp
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Yeha you right I should go corner stone

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Lmao wb tailwind wide guard lunala

lean ridge
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U could put wisp on ur incin too maybe to help with the matchup

astral kelp
molten oasis
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Zekrom is ass btw

astral kelp
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Yeah ik lol

lean ridge
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Oh the whole team is physical

astral kelp
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Yea that's the idea

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And okidogi is like really good into incin

lean ridge
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I see

astral kelp
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Lol idk it's probably dumb

lofty tartan
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Maaaaan, my mod is nearly complete and ready for release and two skills are stumping me hard 😐

lofty tartan
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Two attacks that are supposed to interact with reloads on weapons

Starting at 3rd level, as an Action, you can empty your gun on a single target, firing with great speed. You can make one attack for each bullet on your gun's magazine. Doing so causes your weapon to break, and a broken weapon can't be used until you repair it.```


```Mag Dump
At 18th level, you use every tool and bullet in your arsenal to take out your designated targets. If a gun you are using has the reload property and have more than 1 bullet before having to reload, you may make a special attack that fires all available guns before having to reload. You make one attack and roll damage separately for each bullet fired. Guns used this way require a full action to reload, even if you may ignore the reload property of guns.```
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Basically have to redesign them because that's a bit strong

molten oasis
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Ah, those are both sick too

lofty tartan
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I'm gonna try and keep the intent still there. Just have to tone them down and make them reasonable in a game setting

molten oasis
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Yea

bold geode
molten oasis
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I downloaded the game. Then went to play it and then it crashed cuz steam didn’t finish completely downloading it, fckn dumb lol

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I should be able to play it tonight

lofty tartan
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That sounds pretty dumb

molten oasis
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I’m gonna crash out if it does that again

lofty tartan
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You should be fine

molten oasis
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Nightreign is not what I thought it was and ran so poorly on my laptop (every 3 minutes I’d get 3 minutes of shit frames) so, hoping this game runs well

lofty tartan
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I'm sorta pumped for Nightreign but I just bought Dune so I'm holding off on it for a bit arkeknine

spiral ridge
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apparently its mixed reviews but i really wanna get it too

lofty tartan
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It's mixed because "gamers don't have friends"

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They're mostly super pissed that they can't just solo smash it

spiral ridge
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i saw more that it just felt like the seamless coop dlc for 40$ each

lofty tartan
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I'm just noting what I saw from reviews on steam.

Having played Seamless Coop mods, there's gonna be a huge difference because it's just... got a fundamentally different vibe

shadow wind
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My Groudon just dodged a Miraidon Draco and a CIR High horsepower

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Maybe he's the goat

bold geode
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Nah

shadow wind
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He's turning over a new leaf

dense latch
shadow wind
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Also Bulk up Groudon is definitely the way right now

molten oasis
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I don’t mind nightreign being multiplayer

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What pisses me off is no cross play

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The games fun I just can’t play it with my friend cuz I refunded it and bought it on my Xbox so I actually got to play the game

lofty tartan
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No - you need to have the same problem as all the other people complaining arkeknine

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Acquire problems!@

astral kelp
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i forgot to change back to icicle spinner

shadow wind
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Miraidon CSR is actually so scary to play against

foggy lodge
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Nah I'd light screen

lofty tartan
molten oasis
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Oh right lol

dense latch
lean ridge
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Seeing the Grimm try to set up a double reflect was pretty funny

foggy lodge
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Unless you are Iker

dense latch
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also that grimm twaving into a dark type was interesting

astral kelp
lean ridge
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ohh is that closed team sheet?

astral kelp
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yeah idk still dumb tho

dense latch
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but wouldn't that still go before brick break

foggy lodge
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Yea

astral kelp
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oh yeah true too KEKW \

foggy lodge
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Soooo

dense latch
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they prob just misclicked

astral kelp
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tbh this is my other account so its prolly just

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they didnt know 💀

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they are not those who nose

foggy lodge
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I love Entei so much

dense latch
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nicee

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i think i remember this team from mdb's stream going through his utrecht run

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how's psychic lunala? im so used to seeing moonblast there

foggy lodge
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It feels good

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Its nice having two stabs

solid frigate
foggy lodge
#

Its better against Ursaluna and Amoonguss

molten oasis
astral kelp
#

extreme speed

foggy lodge
#

Amoonguss for obvious reasons but the psychic can chunk Ursaluna for a 2hko most of the time while moonblast needs you to tera to deal more damage and then you get hit by facade

solid frigate
#

anyways gonna sleep cuz i need a break for Mirai Ogre before June

astral kelp
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i like the idea of shifu dark + extreme speed

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imma steal that actually

dense latch
foggy lodge
dense latch
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thundurus is actually really fun to use

tiny karmaBOT
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Move: Eerie Impulse

Lowers the target's Special Attack by 2 stages.

Type

Electric

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Reflectable

Affected by Magic Coat and Magic Bounce.

molten oasis
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I wonder if I can make smth more niche work with zacogre

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If I can, find smth that does

bold geode
astral kelp
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is this like anti miraidon?

molten oasis
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Idk, maybe

solid frigate
dense latch
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anti any special attacker honestly

molten oasis
#

Tera fairy thunderous t might be sick actually

dense latch
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helps against csr and pagos too

solid frigate
tiny karmaBOT
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Pokémon No. 642: Thundurus-Therian
Types

Electric/Flying

Abilities

Volt Absorb

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

79/105/70/145/80/101

Total

580

Base Species

Thundurus

astral kelp
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isnt thund t usually specs

dense latch
#

yea i was running some thundy calcs a bit ago

solid frigate
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yeah nope-

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Thundy T is still frail anyways-

foggy lodge
#

Thundurus T is usually nothing because why would you use it

molten oasis
astral kelp
#

volt absorb idk

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i was trying it on discharge miraidon but it just felt so ass lmao

solid frigate
#

doesn't Dgleam still chunks it

foggy lodge
#

I like thundurus tbh

molten oasis
#

Think the point is for the mon to just

foggy lodge
#

I believed in that mon since reg G

molten oasis
#

Go explode smth and die

astral kelp
#

t or i?

molten oasis
#

T

foggy lodge
#

Eerie impulse + taunt + electric coverage + ground inmunity is quite a good niche

molten oasis
#

I definitely has potential but t’s a cool Mon

solid frigate
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252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Tera Fairy Thundurus-Therian: 91-108 (59 - 70.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

molten oasis
#

Most things eat that at neutral

solid frigate
molten oasis
shadow wind
#

Rarely do I see people clicking dgleam no tera

solid frigate
#

that just how bad the bulk is

astral kelp
#

yeahhh if youre running thund t for anti mirai lol

shadow wind
#

Oh I thought it was a showcase for it being good

#

Mbad

solid frigate
astral kelp
#

mirai also resists everything thund t can throw at it KEKW

solid frigate
#

any Miraidon hits

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the reason why Rhydon is better cuz it has Actual bulk and offenses

astral kelp
#

TRUE

molten oasis
#

Lemme scroll da builder

dense latch
#

lightning rod is also way better than volt absorb

molten oasis
#

Probably looking for stuff that helps into CIR/Mirai

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Or CSR Korai Geezing

astral kelp
#

dude that one rhydon hooh toxapex team was SICK

molten oasis
#

I beat that team

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Through outpacing it lol

spiral ridge
#

no one doing ranked so had to hop on casual battle

solid frigate
spiral ridge
#

immediately what the fuck

solid frigate
astral kelp
lean ridge
#

Choice scarf serene grace iron heard Jirachi incoming

molten oasis
#

What lmao

molten oasis
molten oasis
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Hey Yk what’s cool about thundy t, it outspeeds shifu and nukes it, and probably does pretty good damage into incin. Could go Tera flying Tera blast to nuke rilla too

solid frigate
#

Scarf ummmmm-

astral kelp
#

yeahhhhh hahaha

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oh wait no

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i think they go scarf

solid frigate
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252 SpA Tera Fairy Thundurus-Therian Wildbolt Storm vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Tera Fairy Miraidon in Electric Terrain: 81-96 (46.2 - 54.8%) -- 58.6% chance to 2HKO

I mean-

astral kelp
spiral ridge
lean ridge
#

😭

spiral ridge
#

TERA FIRE D GLEAM TRICK ROOM JIRACHI

astral kelp
spiral ridge
#

they legit like

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have no space to bring in meta
i got a knock off and body press in each slot try me

chrome knot
#

honk

solid frigate
#

honk

spiral ridge
#

this d gleam is doing 20 hp to each of my characters
IT WAS CHOICE SCARF INDEEDEE IN TR????

#

WHAT IN BLOODY TARNATION

lean ridge
#

william was cooking in teambuilder

spiral ridge
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-40 damage stomping tantrum into zama

molten oasis
#

Hm

spiral ridge
#

-non sash non booster flutter

#

wasnt specs either

astral kelp
spiral ridge
#

IDK IT GOT B BASHED

molten oasis
#

Yea my only thought for something niche w/ zacogre is a thundurus form

astral kelp
#

bro its literaly hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

spiral ridge
astral kelp
#

youre bullying children 💀

spiral ridge
#

NO ONES IN RANKED

molten oasis
spiral ridge
#

HOP ON LADDER IF YOU WANT THE KIDS TO BE SAFE

astral kelp
#

bro made a team with all his favorite pokemon

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yay i love my pokemon and my team!!! lets try play against other people :DDDD

spiral ridge
#

im nasty plotting CSR and about to show them god

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shadow sneak means nothing into tera dark

astral kelp
#

then they get matched into 4 of the most played mons 💀

molten oasis
#

Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby

latent leaf
#

What’s luxray doing there

spiral ridge
#

its a special ceruledge

solid frigate
spiral ridge
#

it just shadow balled

astral kelp
#

bro its probably like

#

the first luxray they caught that they brough to their championship battle

latent leaf
#

Shed tail is good in doubles bro trust me

shadow wind
spiral ridge
#

IM A GOOFY GOOBER

astral kelp
#

with min evs

shadow wind
#

What the Groudon

latent leaf
#

Why would you send them to the shadow realm

astral kelp
shadow wind
spiral ridge
#

forgive me gardevoir and gyrados

dense latch
latent leaf
#

They could always get a high roll crit

spiral ridge
#

turn 3 +6 CSR was a fair game gg wp

astral kelp
latent leaf
#

quantum particle changes the speed

spiral ridge
#

IF THIS AQUA JET KILLS

latent leaf
spiral ridge
#

ITS NOT EVEN AQUA JET

molten oasis
spiral ridge
#

awe damn only +5 csr garde is sash :(

#

HAHAHAH I LIVED THEIR MOONBLAST THATS SO BM

solid frigate
#

LMAO

spiral ridge
#

okay done bullying kids thisd was funny

solid frigate
#

bully one more lol

spiral ridge
#

nah im tireddd

solid frigate
spiral ridge
#

already closed it

latent leaf
#

I need to finish the story so I can go bully the kids

dense latch
solid frigate
molten oasis
solid frigate
#

Dude

tiny karmaBOT
#
Pokémon No. 763: Tsareena
Type

Grass

Abilities

Leaf Guard, Queenly Majesty, Sweet Veil (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

72/120/98/50/98/72

Total

510

molten oasis
#

…yk what sure

solid frigate
#

Queenly Majesty is Armor Tail

molten oasis
#

Wait no

solid frigate
molten oasis
#

4 ice weaknesses

#

Time to rebuild

dense latch
#

you could do ursh

solid frigate
#

You think i care when my team is 3 ice weak lol

dense latch
#

ice resist

spiral ridge
#

Why tsa over indeedee?

dense latch
#

could do splash playe on kyogre and mystic water ursh like kian campbell in portland

solid frigate
spiral ridge
#

Indee with sus so that if they have mirai sus is still useful

solid frigate
#

sus

spiral ridge
#

You do not need to rebuild yet drago

spiral ridge
#

@molten oasis gonna ping so hopefully see and consider this before builder hell

molten oasis
#

?

spiral ridge
#

Indeedee

shadow wind
dense latch
#

i'd use another water type over farig

spiral ridge
#

Terrain to keep sus good into mirai for caly mirai teams and also does what you need

dense latch
#

whatever you feel would be nice

spiral ridge
#

If you want anti prio

shadow wind
#

There's some weirdos out there

molten oasis
#

Do I need amoonguss anymore?

#

I had amoonguss for redirect

shadow wind
#

Wait

#

I just matched into the same person twice in a row

#

I didn't think that was possible

molten oasis
shadow wind
#

I hope it disappears soon

astral kelp
#

lol im liking the idea of iron threads and bringing it ONLY against specifically miraidon

shadow wind
#

I mean people did that in Reg G

astral kelp
#

yeah sounds good

foggy lodge
#

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Draco Meteor vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Iron Treads: 166-196 (100 - 118%) -- guaranteed OHKO

foggy lodge
#

I never saw Treads outside of Agati's team xd

shadow wind
#

I swear I remember it being on ladder a lot

#

Especially when Reg G 2 started because of Luca's team

astral kelp
astral kelp
foggy lodge
#

Ig it counts? Tho I never saw it outside of that

astral kelp
#

or tailwind and trick room actually

foggy lodge
#

Unless you want to play 50/50s and swear you will win them all

#

Is not consistent

astral kelp
#

either way you can protect and force them to lock into draco

#

since most are specs

#

and the ones that arent specs shouldt one shot with dragon pulse which is what most av use

foggy lodge
#

what no

#

AV runs draco xd

astral kelp
#

does it??

#

i might be wrong then

#

i swear ive seen mostly pulse

foggy lodge
#

The only Miraidon counter is a fairy mon with lightning rod

#

Miraidon doesn't has counters Iron Tread is just a check

astral kelp
#

tera fairy rhydon when

cyan smelt
#

What about ursaluna does it also die to draco

foggy lodge
#

Yes

shadow wind
foggy lodge
#

And 2hko'd by tera fairy dazzling gleam

astral kelp
#

if yorue not fairy youre dying to draco lol

#

wait does av kyogre live draco

foggy lodge
#

Probably

dense latch
#

yea pretty comfortably

#

244+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Draco Meteor vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Assault Vest Kyogre: 124-147 (59.9 - 71%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

#

well relative to other draco calcs

astral kelp
#

i wouldnt call that comfortably lmao

#

godam it does so much damage

dense latch
#

again relative to what it does to every other pokemon

cyan smelt
#

Miraidon is probably the reason we don't have a ground/fairy type this gen

astral kelp
#

whats specially tankier than av kyogre

shadow wind
#

Some call me a prophet

astral kelp
#

do ground fairy types exist

shadow wind
#

No

astral kelp
#

i mean steal is close enough like?
it resists dragon and fairy

shadow wind
#

There's almost no steel types in the meta

astral kelp
#

i mean iron threads

foggy lodge
#

And Treads is ground but dies to draco anyways

shadow wind
#

He's not in the meta

foggy lodge
#

:v

shadow wind
foggy lodge
#

Iron Treads is meta lol

astral kelp
#

im not talking about meta im talking about threads 💀

shadow wind
#

Also this replay is probably one of the greatest games I've played

shadow wind
astral kelp
#

im on my work computer could someone calc this

Miraidon @ Assault Vest
Ability: Hadron Engine
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 100 Def / 132 SpA / 4 SpD / 20 Spe
Modest Nature
- Electro Drift
- Draco Meteor
- Volt Switch
- Dazzling Gleam
``` vs standard threads
#

the draco

shadow wind
#

Does like 88

#

Wait

astral kelp
#

eh good enough

shadow wind
#

That's AV

#

Probably does more like 59

#

132+ SpA Hadron Engine Miraidon Draco Meteor vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Iron Treads: 102-120 (61.8 - 72.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

#

For no bulk I was pretty darn close

astral kelp
#

how much does threads do back to it?

#

i feel like horspower should kill

astral kelp
shadow wind
#

252 Atk Iron Treads High Horsepower vs. 252 HP / 100 Def Miraidon: 134-158 (64.7 - 76.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

astral kelp
#

ehhhh

#

thats not that good god why is miraidon such a fucking beast

foggy lodge
#

If you need that much a Miraidon answer

shadow wind
foggy lodge
#

Just put psychic seed on Indeedee

astral kelp
#

maybe if i go adamant tera ground

shadow wind
#

Me when Incin chunks

astral kelp
dense latch
#

nahh av indeedee is the play trust

shadow wind
#

AV Indeedee with Fake out 🧠

foggy lodge
#

I played the Koraidon Venusaur team in reg G and the Miraidon MU was only winnable because of the Indeedee seed

shadow wind
#

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Draco Meteor vs. 228 HP / 116 SpD Assault Vest Incineroar: 160-190 (80.4 - 95.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

#

Holy goat

astral kelp
#

true asd tho holey

shadow wind
#

Also I just beat like my frickin nemesis on the ladder

astral kelp
#

john kyogre?

shadow wind
#

😭

#

Nah Mattmaster2010

astral kelp
#

OH SHIT TIME TO TRY THE THREADS

dense latch
#

kyogre feels like a phil

shadow wind
#

I've been playing this guy since like Reg F when I started

#

And he usually beats me

foggy lodge
#

Building the team in game finally wujuu

dense latch
#

nice

shadow wind
dense latch
#

i still have to transfer my shiny kyogre from usum if i wanna build cir ogre

shadow wind
#

And this team is not nice for me

foggy lodge
#

Tbh who the fuck is mattmaster2010

#

He was top 1 for a while in reg G bo3

#

Or she

#

Or they

shadow wind
#

Whoever they are

#

They're frickin cracked

foggy lodge
#

They are for sure

dense latch
shadow wind
astral kelp
shadow wind
#

77% GXE with over 1000 games is mad respect

dense latch
#

are the style points worth the three bucks

astral kelp
#

tjhat fucking username sends

shadow wind
#

And Erik the team is cooking with Specs Miraidon

dense latch
#

sick

#

i meant to answer to your dm i got caught up with some work i had to do

shadow wind
#

All good

dense latch
#

i'd be down to give it a shot

shadow wind
#

Dope

#

And I feel like Cloak Volc is the play

#

No fake out can stop my tailwind now

#

The trade off is that I can't shaft Urshifu for clicking surging strikes

#

0 SpA Volcarona Fiery Dance vs. 100 HP / 4 SpD Zamazenta-Crowned: 86-104 (47.7 - 57.7%) -- 94.9% chance to 2HKO

#

Also this is actually insane

astral kelp
#

op had like the worst lead POSSIBLE for me too lmao

shadow wind
#

I guess Volcarona is just that guy

astral kelp
#

i shouldve leech seeded the ursaluna slot too

#

like lunala was so obviously gonna switch there

shadow wind
#

Why attack booster?

astral kelp
#

oh wait i put wrong nature down woops

sterile raven
#

So, I wanted to pick someone's brain. My roommate is trying to host a private tournament using the VGC format. I have a decent start to my team, but I'm trying to figure out what else to throw on.

shadow wind
#

VGC as in Regulation I?

sterile raven
#

Yeah.

shadow wind
#

Alright good

sterile raven
#

So far I have:
Rapid Strike Urshifu
Incineroar
Miraidon
Fluttermane

#

I'm stuck on the last two slots.

shadow wind
#

Well you still have a restricted slot open

sterile raven
#

Yeah, I'm back and forth on Kyogre, Shadow Calyrex, and Cornerstone Ogerpon

shadow wind
#

Miraidon Kyogre seems cool

sterile raven
#

That was my thought.

shadow wind
#

But if you did those 2 you would probably want Tornadus

sterile raven
#

Yeah, I didnt move mine from ORAS to Pokebank before I got rid of my 3ds and I'm kicking myself for it.

shadow wind
sterile raven
#

Ooo, this is spicy.

cyan smelt
#

Iron hands

shadow wind
#

These are just some teams I found with Miraidon Kyogre

sterile raven
#

I kinda like the Iron Hands, i'm ngl

shadow wind
#

Could go Tailroom

#

Kyogre
Miraidon
Urshifu
Farigiraf
Iron Hands
Tornadus

sterile raven
#

I'm gonna be honest, I'm rather new to VGC. I stopped doing comp battling in X/Y

#

Cause I mained Dragons lol

shadow wind
#

Yknow that's fair

#

Tailroom just means Trick room and Tailwind lines

sterile raven
#

Oh, okay. So you give the Farigiraf the Trick Room and then Tornadus tailwind?

shadow wind
#

So you have mons like Iron hands who love Trick room but also have mons like Kyogre who can work in both

shadow wind
#

The worlds team was actually Tailroom

sterile raven
#

Oh! Okay, I'm following.

#

I kinda like that honestly.

shadow wind
sterile raven
#

I just need to get a Tornadus lmfao

shadow wind
#

It's very flexible in how you play

#

Gives you a lot of freedom with how you approach teams

astral kelp
#

this team feels kinda disgusting actually

#

grim snarl is so fucking good

#

also for some reason he just didnt have a single way to hit tera fire cir

solid frigate
sterile raven
#

Yeah, I'm trying to build a team around them, lol

solid frigate
#

and heck even i say fuck TR

shadow wind
#

Only reason I suggested is cause they said they liked the hands idea

astral kelp
#

i fucking love this HAHAHAHA

solid frigate
#

you can just try Nick's Team with Tsareena

#

it does the same thing with Prio Blocker

sterile raven
#

I was telling Conner that I'm relatively new to VGC.

shadow wind
#

That's the team they're talking about

sterile raven
#

So I think they were trying to give me something that was relatively easy to grasp.

solid frigate
#

Mirai Ogre ig its easy to pilot but you have to play the posistion game

sterile raven
#

My roomate and I are trying to get into VGC, we play the TCG as well, but I kinda wanna play a team with Miraidon and Kyogre to laugh at him cause he's wanting to play the Lunala team.

solid frigate
#

mmmmmm

#

what restricted is he play with Lunala

sterile raven
#

Miraidon

solid frigate
#

ah so milwaukee pair

sterile raven
#

Yeah.

#

Meanwhile I'm trying to use meta pokemon but not copy an existing team lol

solid frigate
#

i think the Matchup between Mirai Ogre and Mirai Lunala is alright during my testing with my Mirai Ogre team

astral kelp
#

yeah thats hard man

shadow wind
#

Eh, it's not that hard

sterile raven
#

Oh, I know lol. I netdeck in the TCG so I wanna do something different in this.

solid frigate
sterile raven
#

I've been seeing a lot of Iron Jugulis in top cut lately.

shadow wind
#

Like I'm using 5/6 of the mons from a team from Portland but I changed a little bit and now it's my team

sterile raven
#

I was contemplating that.

solid frigate
#

Juggy is fine imo however i just like Torn having Rain Dance

astral kelp
shadow wind
#

Is my team heavily inspired? Yes. But is it also unique? Yes

astral kelp
#

IF IT DIDNT CRIT

#

i actually wouldve won the next turn

#

id he had to get one eventually

#

WAIT NO I SHOULDVE JUST PP STALLED IT AND NOT ACCROD

solid frigate
#

i mean

#

from bottom is reg G wave 1 to present day

sterile raven
#

Ooooo. I like the one with Roaring Moon tho

astral kelp
#

yeah i didnt have enough mountain dew

sterile raven
#

Mostly cause Salamence is my favorite non-legendary.

shadow wind
#

When it means stats are rounded down, after an icy wind a max speed modest Miraidon will be at 124 speed right?

solid frigate
sterile raven
#

CSR?

shadow wind
#

Calyrex Shadow Rider

sterile raven
#

Ohhhhh

solid frigate
#

252+ Atk Tera Water Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Shadow on a critical hit: 180-216 (102.2 - 122.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

#

@sterile raven i wanna see how you envision on teambuilding Mirai Ogre

With Moves,Items and Abilities

Tera and EVs can wait cuz you are new to VGC i just wanna see the understanding

#

in showdown teambuilder btw

sterile raven
#

I know how to EV train lol.

#

I'm not new to comp battling, just VGC.

solid frigate
sterile raven
#

I played a lot of comp singles in B/W

solid frigate
#

lemme have a look once you give me a rough draft to have a look

astral kelp
#

OMG IM GONNA LOSE TO A NO GUARD SKILL SWAP TEAM PURELY BECAUSE I HAD NO IDEA WTF WAS GOING ON HAHAH

#

genius

#

AND HE HIT THE FISURE WITHOUT IT HAHAHAH

#

HAHAHAHAHA

sterile raven
#

I forgot to change the Moon's tera type to dark, rip

shadow wind
#

Nah no way I predicted a Draco miss

#

I said "Well there's no point in tera'ing if I don't miss so I guess I should tera to be safe"

#

And I missed and I tera'd and won because of it

sterile raven
#

Love to see it

shadow wind
#

Lunala Ho oh is never an easy game for me

solid frigate
# sterile raven https://pokepast.es/37c9490de0d94ddd

i see a few problems on the team

Miraidon usually run Tera Fairy on Dgleam Sets

Kyogre's EV spread looks a bit unoptimised also replace Thunder With Protect,You have a Car Battery in your team

Urshifu likes Scarf in this team more than Choice Band as it helps on not relying on Tailwind

Incin in Rain wants will-o-wisp to negate physical attackers and parting shot is advised for safety goggles set

Roaring Moon's Set Kinda feels bad imo,since set up usually are not advised on Hyper Offensive Teams,In this team Roaring Moon is Supportive TW setter however you have to compete with Tornadus on this role

Tornadus wants Covert Cloak Tera Steel to able to resist Fake out and have better Matchup against Zacian and Leech Seed Set Calyrex Ice Rider,also Moveset would like to be Hurricane,Taunt,Rain Dance,Tailwind as it was supportive anyway and hurricane helps on not getting fucked over by wide guard and prankster for +1 Priority on status moves

shadow wind
#

Sitting at mid 1400s and I think I'll call it there for the night

sterile raven
#

With the exception of Moon, most of the movesets were stuff I found online tbh

sterile raven
#

I did a little research.
Nah, Smogon.

solid frigate
#

smogon set are usually fake for VGC as it does not apply to the current format

#

remember

#

what singles use does not work on doubles environment

sterile raven
#

I gotcha.

#

What's a better place to get information?

solid frigate
#

you can also read my blog (Shameless plugin) to see about Mirai Ogre idea (Though depends on you cuz The stuff from above are more better)

sterile raven
#

This is one of the few times I feel dumb for getting rid of my 3DS before moving shit to Bank.

solid frigate
#

F

sterile raven
#

Cause I now have to either trade for a Tornadus or move one over from another game.

#

And trying to find someone to trade me a Tornadus has been... difficult to say the least.

solid frigate
rustic mountain
#

no swsh dlc im guessing? or pla?

sterile raven
#

I have the SWSH DLC, but I have to replay through the game bc new switch.

solid frigate
#

oh then just play the game

#

at least you can get another Urshifu+Calyrex

sterile raven
#

I don't even have Calyrex LOL

rustic mountain
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yea just do that tbh, its a time sink but atleast ur getting something u know is legit

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u can access the tundra area pretty quick too

sterile raven
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I was trying to procrastinate a replay of Sword lmao

shadow wind
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Hi tree

rustic mountain
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u can just bypass the story by losing to that dude at the start and hit the lair

foggy lodge
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I hate speed ties istg

rustic mountain
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so for torn specifically u dont even really need much story progression

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i think its sword exclusive tho

rustic mountain
solid frigate
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Roaring Moon is ass in that core lemme tell you that

rustic mountain
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omg mirai/kyogre torrents having a field day lmao

solid frigate
rustic mountain
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who?

shadow wind
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This’ll be me the day someone asks about Groudon 😔

solid frigate
rustic mountain
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did he make top cut

solid frigate
rustic mountain
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ohhhhhh right

shadow wind
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Iron Bundle is lowkey awesome guys you gotta trust me

rustic mountain
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now i remember him yes

solid frigate
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i think James Baek covered that team as well cuz i literally send him the video

rustic mountain
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bundle isnt the problem conner

sterile raven
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So, question.

solid frigate
rustic mountain
shadow wind
rustic mountain
sterile raven
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If I'm gonna just play Sword, should I just run Calyrex instead of Kyogre?

rustic mountain
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idk

solid frigate
shadow wind
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Although recently I’ve been having games where Groudon wins and Koraidon doesn’t

solid frigate
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especially Ice Rider

shadow wind
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And it’s been pretty epic

solid frigate
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which just won Portland with Kyogre

sterile raven
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I was leaning more towards CSR Miraidon

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I mean, I'm mainly trying to put a team together for a home tourney my roommate is trying to host.

solid frigate
rustic mountain
sterile raven
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TR?

rustic mountain
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^ u rn

solid frigate
sterile raven
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Oh okay.

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I'm learning lol

rustic mountain
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we abbreviate a lot in vgc

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(video game championships)

sterile raven
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I mean, we do it in TCG too, so I get it.

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I know what VGC means lol.

rustic mountain
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it was a joke

shadow wind
rustic mountain
shadow wind
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But also after 2 bulk ups that CIR is doing nothing

sterile raven
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Like I said earlier, I'm not new to competitive battling. Just VGC. pepeshrug

shadow wind
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Just don’t put me in front of a CSR

sterile raven
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So, is Ceruledge even worth trying to run in something?

rustic mountain
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not atm unfortunately

sterile raven
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Its my favorite Gen 9 pokemon

solid frigate
# sterile raven I'm learning lol

i think the best thing you can do is either Calyrex Shadow Rider+Kyogre Calyrex Ice Rider+Kyogre or Miraidon Kyogre since these two are fun if you know how to play it right,its just if you know how to position and deal with the board State

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conner tried ceruledge hell tell u about it this format