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BM ursa is usually LO or AV
blood moon
I prayed it was BM and assumed cx
Holder's Normal-type attacks have 1.2x power.
im not wasting guts like that 😭
wisp your own ursaluna 
Like old swagger metagross
new meta???
If you are wasting a turn to set up burn that isn’t protect your ursa will be dead in the water
it'll be scarfed
with tailwind
one trillion iq
im confused on the pokemon wwere talking about now
Well if it’s normal ursa then you’d rather be in TR and out speed there
If normal ursa. Flame orb
If BM, AV or LO is lot better
Holder's attacks do 1.3x damage, and it loses 1/10 its max HP after the attack.
i was talking about blood moon, you shifted to hisui ursa
Higher multiplier and also helps your ground move
the choice scarf recommendation was satire
Cus we started talking about burning so I went to normal ursa
I know I’m just saying it straight to clear confusion
my moveset is blood moon, hv, earth power, and protect
its weird how like ursabm and ursa feel like such different mons
Then yes life orb
Yeah it’s a bloody nuke
the extra health helped me some times
You wanna boost your earth power for zama, incin, and anything weak to ground
but sure ill try life orb
hv?
oh hyper voice
Surprisingly havent seen much lando
idk if im too loww on the ladder though
It’s still around
on ursa blood?
It was used for a while yeah
to replace what?
i mean the only use i can see for vacuum wave is chien pao
oh thats not bad
specially on a slow mon like ursa
@foggy lodge there’s moonblast 😭
It was you talking of moon ursa iirc
you'd have to double into that slot though, most chien i've seen run focus sash
when no trick room and youre gonna die vacuum wave lets you do that last hit before dying
True. But it’s still good
yeah you can break sash pretty easily
Gets you outta speed tiers for at least last hurrah
^ yea it feels lowkey amazing
losing blood moon hyper voice or earth power sucks thio
main loss is protect
You run it on LO?
lol yeah i did when i made that team
Oh I thought it was only AV
probably i just kinda winged the ursa set
ayo no protect wtf was i cooking
this looks so ass
peak
holy shit how does ursa bm have 65 spd
bc it already has a monster HP stat
i wouldnt call 113 monster
Yeah
Her and Nova just damn
with 120 defense it is
Ya that's why I was commenting on the spd cuz it's like lower than I thought it was
It's just very all in defence
run hisui ursa if it's an issue
bulky all around
Yeah normal ursa is a fucking demon
Protect over Vac
Yeah for sure that's a shit ass set ignore it lmao
Only reason I was running bm over normal is because of weezing
Which was pretty cool since if I needed to hit a ghost type all I had to do was switch weezer out
Ooh wait maybe I'll slap ursa bm on the current team I'm working on
Why not run toxic on weezing over poison gas
Turn efficiency would be terrible to use Toxic
Oh yeah poison gas hits both opponents
Why do you need neutralizing gas when all of your Pokémon have good abilities though
Especially when you already have 2 Pokémon weak to ground
Alright is relic ready for bss
Also I have a good question if incinaroar is running around so much why not use something like empoleon or galarian zapdos that can easily silence the thing
Empoleon explodes to Miraidon, same with Galarian Zapdos
I do think Ogerpon-Teal could actually be a decent meta pick but then you run into stuff like CIR that’s everywhere and love facing it
Is max attack and hp good for zamazenta
With
behemoth bash
crunch
Iron defense and
body press
why would you run trick room with such fast pokemon
incase the oponent has tr
I'm hard stuck on a four pokemon core of zacian, kyogre, roaring moon, and amoonguss, any ideas on other possible additions? Feel like ursh or hands are great, but it seems for there to be better options
Do I not already deal well enough with mirai? Also scared of that ice weakness
i havent had much of an issue with it
if you are scared of that stay on shifu
and mirai incin sucks for zac
it does not suck for lando
lando also gives you another strong special attacker, i also just think lando is the goat
fairy and ground coverage is hella strong
Okay, so now we need one more. Maybe hands? Or you think smth else is the call here
if you go lando, you go incin
unless you're confident hands is enough to help with CIR
either or is fine tho
I think hands could be a bit better rn, cuz we can't deal too much damage to water types, plus that anti synergy from a fire type in rain isn't there. Although intimidate and parting shot is stupid good
both Bikes btw
you run the fire for the ice resist
you dont run flare blitz either you go wisp
and i personally like going thunder kyogre
but my team is also cornerstone over amoonguss
if you want that tho go hands
How good is Koraidon with heat crash
not
yeah
DON'T
Is Koraidon not heavy?
Thank you!
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He’s 300 kg roughly
Which isn’t anything light but it’s not heavy enough to justify heat crash
Considering most of the competition runs Pokémon that are over 400 kg
Reg Fat
Calyrex ice ruins heat crash
How fat is that horse
How is the horse heavier than a giant triceratops sabertooth thing
I want to hit caly ice with heat crash gouging fire
horses weigh a lot
252 Atk Life Orb Koraidon Heat Crash (40 BP) vs. 212 HP / 4 Def Calyrex-Ice in Rain: 21-26 (10.3 - 12.8%) -- possible 8HKO
how the ffuck you made Koraidon's Caly Ice MU even worse-
and it’s a big ass horse
Ok fair actually
252 Atk Life Orb Orichalcum Pulse Tera Fire Koraidon Heat Crash (40 BP) vs. 212 HP / 4 Def Calyrex-Ice in Sun: 133-156 (65.8 - 77.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Oh ok thats not too bad but like
why make the MU worse
252 Atk Life Orb Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Heat Crash (40 BP) vs. +1 100 HP / 236+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned in Sun: 52-62 (28.8 - 34.4%) -- 3.3% chance to 3HKO
heat crash?????????
@misty helm ask him
i was deilvery man for the calcs
also uh
yeah that bruxish team flopped 😭
@misty helm why heat crash when you can just run temper flare or flare blitz
Been trying to get back into competitive just to get bored of team building 15 minutes in
Because I don't like building with most of what's viable rn
Someone give team pls
oh no, actually, im okay thanks
:(
Bro I was trolling a kyurem white team earlier, and the guy ended up winning after a double blizzard freeze, outside of snow
ok awesome thank u so much
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Solgaleo and solaire similar
The Sunnnnnnnn
That’s peak
What y'all think of this CSR Miraidon team? https://pokepast.es/53d6f1fe103444af
This time I went a little more standard, but still think it has some unique things about it
What is tera ghost hands for?
https://pokepast.es/ba0ed612d2848749 in a vacuum do my sets seem likely to always fail
split comp discussion 2025
So you think these tactics could work in singles
Ah back to our regularly scheduled programming
Y'all deal with this
Me too tired
possibly
even then you’ve got like a
70% chance you just get nuked and lose
nobaaaa
https://pokepast.es/762de21f5ebbee45
https://pokepast.es/f84681dce6e52d44
so I am a singles player does it seem possible that I could pull out wins
With my current collection
emmmaaaa
hhaaiiiiiii ^-^
hru doing?
i’m doin okay
feeling a bit tired tho 
felt
it’s been an interesting week for sure though
ohh?
many sleepless nights tryna figure out things for my project i started on
debugging sucks 
im bugging
Mainly for fake out blocking, but also creates some intresting mind games against facade and zam
doesn't Hands always Outlasts Zama tho
ok but imagine forcing heavy slams
and ursaluna has to headlong for neutral and u low kick for ko
🤩
Bug hands is goated
Oh ig ghost lets you sit infront of Ursa, don’t have to take facade
But about this team though, any thoughts? https://pokepast.es/53d6f1fe103444af
Idk if anyone’s doing this yet, but I really like the idea of Tera ghost Tera blast zamazenta
why.
Calirex and lunala
you have your own Calyrex tho
Nah
Double res hello?
I no no wanna
why
If I’m running zam I’m almost always running a rain team or a Miraidon pair, cause I’m not a huge fan of the usual pairs
i'm running Rain i have close to no issue to CSR tho lmao
i rather think of how can i beat Koraidon more than beat CSR cuz i multiple way
and Zama Ghost blast is not the way
Tera ghost is a solid counter to koraidon tho
might aswell tera fairy in Bo1, for korai
Cause they typically run like either a choice item, or life orb, close combat protect
no its not-
Its not better-
Why not Tera fire Tera blast?
You got some better options
are you THAT obsessed with Tera blast
Nah I just use it when other coverage isn’t an option or if I don’t wanna explode from clicking a move
Stellar tera blast Zacian is kinda goated tho
Cause I like doing life orb koraidon if anything
that one makes sense but still no
Nova help me-
I never said I was good, I just thought it was a fun idea🌜
tera ground blasts u
but i’m a flying type-
That's Zacian stuff, and that we can approve of
Eeeeehhhhhh
electro drift you
flying type in gravity 
I think the Tera blast Zac stuff worked better in reg g
volt absorb goes brrrr
Right now Zac prefers sub/sd or scared sword
ground blast is alright imo
omg emolga hiii….
Its fine but your other restricted should do enough work Zac wouldn’t neee to run it
i miss emolga
she so cute and silly
I also think the Tera ground Zac stuff sucks personally
isn’t emolga motor drive-
Don’t love clicking Tera then becoming weak to shifu 
or was it both-
Or ice rider
I mean, is more of a matchup patch. If you have strong defenses and fighting coverage might aswell tera blast
motor drive but same thing….
that’s why you got redirect
true true
leech seeds you😱
also i never realized but like
154 special defence??
Ground is kinda mid tho, cuz you need it if the team is weak against mirai, what you can't really afford to be in this format
Only use case I rly see for tera blast is with stellar, but it's niche
So you’re gonna redirect glacial lance?
you got wide guard for that
plus doesn’t bblade usually take a huge chunk out
me who’s testing zacnala HO
Ok you do, and that’s fine I’m more saying in a general sense
yeah that’s fair tho
And with lunala, it can't afford to wide guard bot in tr
power herb meteor beam rayquaza….
god
this thing gets no good physical dragon moves
most Rain teams don't run wide guard if its Kyogre
Had some fun running it with specs pagos
Wdym dragon claw 
That move sucks so much lmao
Has a 20% chance to make the target flinch. Damage doubles and no accuracy check is done if the target has used Minimize while active.
Dragon
Physical
100
75
10 (16)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Makes contact.
75% accuracy for a 100 bp move 🥀
sad
get some sleep silly
but whatcha working on :0
She’s been playing cool stuff
debugging sounds like it doesnt play lmfao
i mean
FOr some it is
pft
anyways
mhm?
glll
technically i'm almost done anyway
is it just relic rolling or no?
just traces and possibly new Hyacine Relics
oo ok so either almost doneor not very if rolls are ass lmfao
actually not really
If I had energy to play that game I would
gj
I rarely play mobile games that requires a lot of active playing, I like arknights for a reason
fair
she needs
200 speed Minimum out of combat lmao
The exception is like, geometry dash lol
jesus
how to rage 101
which is fairly easy
is it?
yeah
however new relic set might it slightly harder but bis so far
nice
trust me you would complain more about Powercreep here
That game doesn’t make me mad
It’s a game about learning timings for a level
If you’re raging stop playing the game lol
genuinely suprised huh
But fair enough
but eh the placeholders helped me to go 200 speed so i am not complaining
neat
Vgc makes me mad cuz I get frustrated when I lose not knowing why
secret project 
oahh
can i see when done :3
Is it what I think it is? I won’t share if it is 
rng always makes me question what mistake in plays i did
but then you realize that there’s was literally nothing you could do to prevent it
don’t think so-
what do you think it is?
idm if you share it here 
Eh I won’t
my 4 cycle MOC run got fucking destroyed by Monke TV-
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@bold geode apologize
LMAO
oh hey the timing of that
say sorry to us both bitch
You looking in the mirror
HAHAHR EALLY
pain :(
me rn
shes pretty ive grown really fond of her design for not playing
wish i was around to pull her ngl
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More fatfuck Hyacine supporter is always nice
this should not be legal in any capacity bruh
least boring leech seed gameplay
it’s a fever dream
Hyacine+Streaming is the last thing i would think of her
What y'all think about clear amulet iron hands? My team has few protects, so that could maybe solve it
Also could drop the scarf on my lando, or smth on my amoonguss, but giving up on the assault vest seems like the better choice
You lose a lot of bulk on assault vest
you think I'm better off with lorb lando, or no sludge bomb amoonguss, then?
Eh it could be ok
But I think AV has way too much value in this format
Amulet Hands was better for reg G I think
Even electric seed was used
LORB lando is awesome
I think scarf lacks damage
Cuz the team in question is using roaring moon, w kyogre and zacian
Yea
Ik, you don’t really need the scarf on lando imo
Idt you need scarf much at all for moon zacogre
And why is that?
honestly Scarf Ogre is just not worth it on ZacOgre/MiraiOgre/CSROgre
cuz you either want it to be bulky or moderately fast
also you need protect on Kyogre
cuz Rilla is a bi-
It’s balance, protect is valuable for scouting out things like miraidon
Lando and Zac force miraidon into a 50/50
RILLA IS BISEXUAL ! ?
Lmfao
or like me,trolling Lunala to trick room but i am faster than Lunala under TR lmao
Insert female rillaboom here
I thought we all knew it by now
anyways
Mystic Water Kyogre.
Can be build slow and Bulky or Fast
honestly i just exploit Lunala Indeedee Lead with Kyogre and Grimm lol
Also I do agree you want something to hit water types but that’s kinda why I like ogerpon
So you can afford mystic water kyogre
I never have tried wellspring but I like cornerstone
Well, that's the current version of that team: https://pokepast.es/6fe2873f600f6378 Don't mind the weird item on amoonguss btw
Brother what
slow spore is more better-
Why you got quick claw lmao
I know, just a weird tech I'm trying out
ALSO CLOAK IS RIGHT THERE
But besides that, how's that looking?
It's standard so fine but take that Claw off
Standard just drop the claw
Cloak or rocky helm
Ight

You can copy my work but change it up a bit so they don't notice
Stfu I was here first

i'm gonna let you guys figure it out
SCHYEAH
Stimky 🫵
nooooo :(
The horse of approval has spoken
@chrome knot would you like me if I was a worm
True
I'd cast the worm
Try to catch a fish
Brother who would like anyone as a worm
I will tell my gf (when I get one) no lol
Mfer does not believe in Disney true love
See I’m too handsome so no one talks to me 
Guys, it’s just pheromone maxxing
im all serious im not looking to get into a relationship rn. I wouldn’t date myself so why should they lol. I wanna work on myself
Need a stable job and an apartment
mood 
That’s honestly very respectable. You need to love yourself before you love someone else. Also need to focus up on the gym, been sick lately, need to bulk back up
when my gf asked me that and i didnt answer with just yes she was legit sad lmao
Damn lol
Honestly, make the gym a therapy session. If you go there just looking forward to improving as a person, it makes it feel great
I’m still benching like 140 lbs, but even when the weights don’t grow, I know I have
Progressive overload is my king
And I, a servant
I don't go to the gym. I do a 4 day upper/lower split.
Hm…
Arnold presses cooked me today 
I do need to confess I have not done leg press in a bit, and I’m still pushing 300 lbs
What would you suggest for any home workout gear?
That would be easier for me I think
Dumbells. Olympic curl bar and weights. Pull up bar
Dumbells and a pull up bar are awesome for just starting out
A curl bar will run you like 50 to 100
Pull-up bar could be useless if you’re overweight, but great if you want to gain muscle mass
tera ghost specs csr one shots miraidon holy
You can do A LOT with dumbells
Yeah if you're overweight it's gonna be a problem. But it's a goal. Even working toward a full rep is progress
As of weight, would get 5kg, 10kg and 15kg pairs for you to start out
But like dumbells and body weight exercises are an incredible starting point
Even if you can't do a full push up you can start with knee pushups
Also a bench (even if you use with no bar) could be of great use too
Cool
Are those expensive?
Yes a flat bench elevates your exercises a ton
I bought a set of 5 to 20lb cast iron dumbells for 100
When I started
That’s not too bad
It's not bad at all.
Good investment
Oh. A grip trainer.
Take a shuffle through Craig’s list (if that’s a thing where you live), and should find someone looking to throw some stuff away
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Work your forearms every arm day and ladies are gonna look
I add palm up and palm down wrist curls to every arm day, as well as crunches and elbow planks to every workout day.
Levitation crunches
Those are very useful if you’re gonna work out at home, only. Once you go to a gym, just doing stuff like back exercises should suffice
I do grip trainers when I'm just doing other stuff. It's a downtime workout
Gyms are superior though for cable machines
Dude no joke. Lol
arms are everything
My wife like touches my forearms randomly now
lol that’s cool
Don't skip leg day.
like you can be the ugliest mf in the world but if you have nice arms
Honestly Drago the toughest thing you're gonna face is being consistent
So, grip trainer, 5-20 pounds dumbbells, pull up bar
And a flat bench
Oh I know, it’s hard to build the habit
It opens up stuff like incline presses
Also, might suck, but cardio is fantastic for you, run for an hour post workout, and the next one will feel smoother
You get to target specific muscle groups better by changing angles
Interesting
its fucked how like if you lose consistancy for a little bit everything derails
Yea
I jog around my park and then I do jumping jacks and free squats to high kicks
It’s rough. It’ll probably take some time to get a full routine going
And this should be easy to move around
i fucking hate cardio i have asmtha so i die within like 15 minutes
Plus it would help with my mental
It’s good for you but yea cardio sucks
Cardio is rough at first but it builds endurance
i saw a thing recently about training your lungs over training cardio
Then it's cake
And start off slow. Two weeks twice a week, and up one day every other week. I would stop at 5/6 days a week though, you need that rest day
Is it a dumbbell or is it cake
why not both
The rest day will likely be my dnd day
Have you seen the weird al real or cake video?
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Did I get pinged
Nah
Cause normal people run encore Jumpluff
Sorry it was me and fat fingers. Apologies
ah no worries no worries
lol i mean op missing literally everything
Ah well yeah
That's a given though
Like you gotta know you're missing half your pblades
isnt pblade 85 ac ?
Hello I'm alive
You are? Crazy
Yup
Insane right
Yea lol. Anyway how are you doing?

and 2 sleep powders lmfao
This is why we don’t play groudon jumpluff, everything will miss
unless gravity
btw do you think i should go max speed max spa or i should do this half assed tanky build
its big speed control
and im not gonna switch it out unless it dies since itsnot sun
I lowkey think it be cool if we got a new set of terrains or some new mechanic and we get something like gravity
Consistency 
Nah when I play I always hit everything
the overqwill sauce
mhmm
damn
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climbed up to 1456 with Gastrodon
nah surely gastorodon is monstrous right now now that i think of it
insane typing for current meta
Electric
Fire, Poison, Rock, Steel
Bug, Dark, Dragon, Fairy, Fighting, Flying, Ghost, Ground, Ice, Normal, Psychic, Stellar, Water
Grass
Ground-types take no damage from Sandstorm.
oof ogerpon and rilla tho
I lob
The sauce for weather teams is annihilape though, if you get to final gambit their main weather setter it's just game
And even if you don't bring, they need to respect the monkey
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man making a non meteor beam lunala set is so weird
like i feel like that ev spread should be tanky but i got half healthed through shadow shield by volt switch
like jesus mchrist
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There we go
Gimme
you just did it anyways
what do you guys think should be ran on a physical defense amoongus?
im running the usual rocky helmet and effect spore, but for the last move do I got for protect or some recovery like synthesis
protect lol
that's what i thought too
unless you dont like protect then you can go like clear smog or even fucking foul play lol
but its def worse
amoonguss wants regenerator
im running a physical tank build
with rocky helmet
effect spore makes more sense no?
no, because you will screw yourself over with spore not working sometimes on para or poisoned targets
it’s much more consistent to run regenerator
alright
hoi Dillon
hello 🙂
you going to portland or not?
nope, I’m at a sporting event for the school I teach at this weekend
GO TEACH GOOOO TEACH
I see effect spore amoonguss and raise you an already burned ursaluna
Trying to find people in my area, Louisville, into VGC. Looked for local events but all are TCG would really like to have some people local to chat with and run things by and such.
i think Louisville has VGC community idk
Im only about 50 mins-an hour out from there but Im in the middle of nowhere lmao
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i really like rapid style urshifu right now
specifically scarf
paired with kyogre it's nice
Live look at a caveman discovering fire
so true
Monke discover stick
I'm just playin lol
Glad ya found somethin
heh
yeah one big issue im having is miraidon
Well you're gonna have that naturally with those two Pokemon so
Good thing we got 4 other slots to fill
i was thinking iron treads
electro drifts you
Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhh
On a Kyogre team idk
Switches in Rillaboom
thats what i thought
glacial lance….
this was the team i was running +amoongus
For Kyogre teams, depending on the second restricted being used, I'd use something like Iron Hands, Landorus, Rillaboom
Something like that
ah
oh my fucking god what is that
Not the Dusk Mane
dusk was supposed to be a flutter mane counter
HUH
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
max spdef and prism body
You're still weak to it
If you're looking for that, Zacian is right there
Helps with Flutter and bike
thought zacian was nerfed to the ground
Anyways yeah um
I would do that
Also Archaludon
Nah
It's doing better in a double restricted format
Though Incineroar is something to watch for but guess what
Big ass whale
ill try out zacian
right now im trying to experiment with talonflame tailwind
Tornadus
prankster doesnt work on dark types, im going for gale wings
Ok and how does that affect TW
dont moves get cancelled if a dark type is on the field?
Only if the affected move is targeting the Dark type
Tailwind works cuz it's not targeting
But if you try to Taunt an Incineroar with Tornadus, then it gets blocked unless it's tera'd to another type
talon has more offensive utility too no?
No not really
Even if it has some good moves like look at it's stats real quick
Fire/Flying
Flame Body, Gale Wings (Hidden)
78/81/71/74/69/126
499
You ain't doing much with that stat 
Besides, Tornadus has more synergy with Kyogre
Hurricane and Bleakwind never miss in Rain, Flying type can hit the Grass types that Kyogre can't hit with Water, can set up Rain manually in case of switch ins, can set speed control, probably something else I'm missing
Thunder Wave? Nah
Wait it got that
Also other adjustments I'd make
I'd like to see U Turn over Ice Spinner on that Urshifu and like
Honestly Tera Grass + Ice Beam on Kyogre over Icy Wind and Water tera will help the Miraidon MU some
What about Strange
Hmm, guys Hawkeye is too strong, nerf strange
Actually y'know what bro
I agree with Flats
I've seen enough, buff Luna
Buff Luna? Why?
oh cool thanks
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ic
At least directly
They did the ult cost nerfs but like they've basically done that with everyone
Portland tomorrow, let's go
monke do you have Holy water
wat
what sins have you commited
you could run ice beam as coverage for that specific goal
which ive seen come out a fair amount of times so far in reg I onto my shroom and my ape tbh
I mean
Why not both
im pretty sure its one of the best coverage options on the whale
i wouldnt tech my team in a way to counter grass in a way that tries to fill a bad matchup
Huh
id go back to the drawing board if Grass type were that much of a roadblock
Tornadus Kyogre is a known combo
it being known doesnt mean people run it

you can combo a lot of known things, doesnt mean they hold up to the power level of said format
i dont expect tornadus to be on every kyogre team
whereas i expect every kyogre to be on kyogre team
so ice beam coverage ends up way more consistent
Well yeah
But I'm also giving suggestions and that's a good suggestion
You can still run both or not
id look into other members to pull more leverage into counters
Tornadus is deployed early for Prankster Tailwind in most games
at least in master ball, cant talk about your experience much
Ok
He was using Talonflame for speed control
I said Tornadus would be better and listed reasons
So I think that like
Still fits
Huh?
so no one reacts with pivots or what ?
Brother when did I bring up pivots
i am bringing them up
This is a speed control suggestion
i asked the question 🙂
I mean
Some people do
Some don't
Depends on board states tbh
But I don't see how that correlates to me suggesting Tornadus over Talonflame
the board state is supposed to suggest Kyogre being threatened by a grass move
if we're following the same convo
Well yeah
Guess what
Tornadus can threaten those
It can Tailwind
Can also Bleakwind
Tera is also available
There's ways here
If we wanna break down every possibility now
so you run offensive tornadus over support
interesting
maybe you got something with the therian form + regenerator
that sounds interesting
No
You can still do good chip at least to stuff
Though I guess offensive ain't bad either
Brother I'm not that high
No I meant high as in under the influence
But you're probably too young to know about drugs
im probably older then you
Maybe
i got kids
not sure suggesting drug usage in pokemon discord for all age groups is a good thing
Anyways we're getting sidetracked here
Anyways Tornadus Kyogre is a duo that's been known
I was merely suggesting it
If they run it? Cool
If not? Also cool
If you read somewhere later probably you'll also see me recommend Tera Grass and Ice Beam which are both good things for Grass damage
Merely doing what I do
Advising
Suggesting
Yada yada
do you attend tournaments ?
I do not
I do have multiple ways of knowing stuff though, whether it be resources, people who do attend
just asking 1 question bud
knowing you don't attend tournaments is all I need to know
I was answering said question
I mean if that's all the qualifications there is, talk to Dillon
He made finals in Milwaukee
But then again
Have you attended a tournament?
I have
Ok cool
Idk why we have to judge each other on ranked ladder and shit
Obviously I have a role for a reason
i dont know
normally ranked performance is a good testimony to someone's skill
you don't want a bad player with googling skills to give out advice normally
Thankfully that's not me
Y'know what
What you consider on ranked performance
the ranking you get on showdown or the ladder
someone that can get very high mmr in a game tends to be a good player don't you think ?
mmr is match making rating
I've hit 1600 in SD ladder before
1500 with 75+% GXE
Master Ball way too many times, hitting top 100 at one point (missed Master Ball once this gen but it was during a break so)
And trusted for advice by probably quite a few people
If you really wanna get into specifics and credentials
Idk why you wanna press people on that anyways
not people, you
im asking you, not the whole world
thought this is competitive discussion
Kinda not cool anyways to come into places and start questioning people
already mika that shuts down new players with elitist attitude
Nah bud
You keep tryna start stuff and arguments with staff constantly, as I have seen before
Imma ask you once
Stop doing that
bad time to clock outta work, huh….
The argument ended so, not really ig

How the prep
moment
keanu
sup
are u portland gamig
yes
June is taking it one step at a time
That's good
seed gaming?
Zama CSR
visual discomfort on my face
Is it still that Shohei shit or did we innovate my boy
I am North America’s CSR Zama’s last builder
I don't go to events or I'd say I'm right there with ya
Innovate but the team was passed to the homies in team Ireland and they did well so
Utrecht
lies
no lies he just keeps bitching out of going to events lmao
Oh so Neil
LMFAO
I’m using Neil’s Execution
Bro rose from the eart
What Neil we talking bout
Redemption arc one
i think if i paid more attention to the AI stories i would but
Patel?
he said aight time to craft worlds winning team
proceeded to forget to register for NAIC
Bruh
gl tomorrow tho!! cheering for you @balmy glen
Bro thinks he’s arubega
atp he craftin the ladders team
-8ball is this team the one
is this team the one
:8ball: Outlook not so good
-8ball are you lying
are you lying
:8ball: Reply hazy try again
-8ball r u lying
r u lying
:8ball: It is decidedly so

-8ball should Drago sugma nuts
should Drago sugma nuts
:8ball: Cannot predict now
Wow
Lmao
-8ball should I commit Kermit pool
should I commit Kermit pool
:8ball: As I see it, yes
-8ball does the horse approve
does the horse approve
:8ball: It is certain
smol wins today, still low elo but bo3 feels so much more rewarding than bo1
Pog
My ahh be cleep before NAIC
i think fixing sleep schedule might be a mandatory task😭
Fr
lol what was happening betwene monke and rotom guy
eh its better to let it die
LOOLLL
💀
waow that was a fun read
nah what was bro on about HAHAHAH
some of my favorites was randomly bringing up pivots, randomly getting offended by "high", bringing up fucking torn-T and quote "whereas i expect every kyogre to be on kyogre team"
Plz no commenting on the argument
It's settled already, no need
alg o7
understandable
about torn, what are you guy's thoughts on sash protect on torn
i was running it on an e-force team with 4th move sunny day/rain dance and it feels pretty great to live a volt switch or meteor beam
but it kinda sucks not having taunt
It’s fine
Car go meow
I thought it went moo
Gonna be sleeping during naic
pls wake me up if i do

What have u been up to
Nothin much
Life
I am working on a blogpost for a Solgaleo team I used in GC
Other than that nothing much
I was working out but I been slacking lately
@summer shore
nah its fine auto turns of leech seed gotchu
Bruh
Can’t make the gains if you don’t do it
Really? What event
I know bro
Ayo that shit tight
monke in a vgc draft league i have p2 ursa vivi gholdengo am i eating good
Top 8 and got my invite to continentals
Pog
Do you have the kat
first team draft is feeling pretty epic
archie is kinda ass i probably want to go for a sturdy build
nah i grabbing alolan raichu, less expensive fake out user
Grab Hitmontop instead
Trust
Fake Out, Intimidate, and you can WG your own EQs
alo has fake out, volt switch and a number of support moves
Damn
it learns encore right?
Bide, Body Slam, Brick Break, Counter, Covet, Dig, Double Kick, Double Slap, Double-Edge, Dynamic Punch, Endeavor, Extreme Speed, Facade, Fake Out, Feint, Flail, Fling, Fly, Focus Punch, Frustration, Giga Impact, Headbutt, Heart Stamp, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Last Resort, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Natural Gift, Nuzzle, Pay Day, Play Rough, Present, Quick Attack, Rage, Return, Reversal, Rock Smash, Rollout, Secret Power, Seismic Toss, Skull Bash, Slam, Spark, Strength, Submission, Take Down, Thief, Thunder Punch, Trailblaze, Upper Hand, Volt Tackle, Wild Charge
Alluring Voice, Charge Beam, Disarming Voice, Discharge, Draining Kiss, Echoed Voice, Electro Ball, Electroweb, Expanding Force, Focus Blast, Future Sight, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Mud-Slap, Psychic, Psychic Noise, Psyshock, Rising Voltage, Round, Shock Wave, Signal Beam, Snore, Stored Power, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunder Shock, Thunderbolt, Uproar, Volt Switch, Zap Cannon
Agility, Ally Switch, Attract, Bestow, Calm Mind, Captivate, Celebrate, Charge, Charm, Confide, Curse, Defense Curl, Detect, Double Team, Eerie Impulse, Electric Terrain, Encore, Endure, Fake Tears, Flash, Follow Me, Growl, Happy Hour, Helping Hand, Hold Hands, Laser Focus, Light Screen, Lucky Chant, Magic Coat, Magic Room, Magnet Rise, Mimic, Nasty Plot, Play Nice, Protect, Psychic Terrain, Rain Dance, Recycle, Reflect, Refresh, Rest, Safeguard, Sing, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Speed Swap, Substitute, Swagger, Sweet Kiss, Sweet Scent, Tail Whip, Teeter Dance, Telekinesis, Teleport, Thunder Wave, Tickle, Toxic, Wish, Yawn
A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Raichu-Alola.
Pog indeed the goat is never washed
- Raichu-Alola does not learn Follow Me in Generation 9
man what would you replace for electro web
- when transferred from Generation 3
alolan raichu from gen 3 
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holy shit the amoonmiraidon
W mimikyu pick
IH is just patting mimikyu, it's so wholesome

what
i was lunala lol big rip to that guy
so im trying to figure out perish trap in this new reg, but i cant seem to find the right restricteds, i tried zama alot, but it felt kinda off, same with koraidon, and now im not sure what to use.
Koraidon+Lunala is fine
also Perish trap is kinda dead unless wolfey does something funny with it
but i wanna do something funny with it (:
if it worked in G i might be able to make it work in I
ive made 7 trap teams this reg
i just don't think it works that well especially its 2 restricteds
ive got these three, idk if any of them are good https://pokepast.es/9c1de12fdae2083a https://pokepast.es/5797cc369ea8bc70 https://pokepast.es/e839d71c166ce0ac
ye i spent way too much time on making these and most suck ):
what the heck i saw
Honestly Kyurem black is more dissapointment than Mewtwo
i think lugia snow could maybe work?
kinda like articuno
but also kinda like pagos cuz u wanna tera lugia almost every time
for your sanity Sake DOn't
The reason why Articuno Snow works cuz
Decent Bulk+Actually good offenses
ah okok
Lugia has SpA of 90 and Dies to Calyrex and Miraidon
also yes A lot of sets have to change if you are persistent on using this
i like psyspam, but the psyspam team i made might just be atrocious
ye the psyspam team i made is lunala
i like it cuz its bulkier
maybe psyspam luna + korai?
i js love the lake trio
so i threw uxie and golduck on there
cuz golduck simple beam makes calm mine mean
i havent tested it tho so idk if it works
Lake trio Kinda sucks tho
Azelf just likes to blow itself apart
Uxie is just diet cresselia
And Mesprit doesn’t even know which disappointing Brothers gonna follow
diet cress with e force
o cress has e force










