#competitive_discussion

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chrome knot
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run flame orb bruh

spiral ridge
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BM ursa is usually LO or AV

south shuttle
chrome knot
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oh (!)

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specify dat lmfao

spiral ridge
tiny karmaBOT
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Item: Silk Scarf

Holder's Normal-type attacks have 1.2x power.

south shuttle
astral kelp
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wisp your own ursaluna CH_BigBrain

spiral ridge
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Like old swagger metagross

south shuttle
spiral ridge
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If you are wasting a turn to set up burn that isn’t protect your ursa will be dead in the water

south shuttle
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with tailwind

spiral ridge
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Scarf wisp incin
Are you ok?

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Oh silk scarf that’s right

astral kelp
south shuttle
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im confused on the pokemon wwere talking about now

spiral ridge
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Well if it’s normal ursa then you’d rather be in TR and out speed there

spiral ridge
tiny karmaBOT
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Item: Life Orb

Holder's attacks do 1.3x damage, and it loses 1/10 its max HP after the attack.

south shuttle
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i was talking about blood moon, you shifted to hisui ursa

spiral ridge
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Higher multiplier and also helps your ground move

south shuttle
spiral ridge
spiral ridge
south shuttle
astral kelp
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its weird how like ursabm and ursa feel like such different mons

spiral ridge
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Then yes life orb

south shuttle
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life orb does 1.3x for 1/10th of ur hp though

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silk does 1.2x for nothing

spiral ridge
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Yeah it’s a bloody nuke

astral kelp
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you like

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do not care about 1/10 hp

south shuttle
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the extra health helped me some times

spiral ridge
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You wanna boost your earth power for zama, incin, and anything weak to ground

south shuttle
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but sure ill try life orb

spiral ridge
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It’s worth it the EP damage go crazy

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Look at Lando that bitch be popping people

astral kelp
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oh hyper voice

spiral ridge
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Ground is good coverage

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Fire steel electric is very good to hit

astral kelp
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i was running vaccum wave for a while

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its definitevly a best of one move tho lol

south shuttle
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idk if im too loww on the ladder though

spiral ridge
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It’s still around

south shuttle
astral kelp
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ye

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no one expects a priority move from ursa

spiral ridge
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It was used for a while yeah

south shuttle
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to replace what?

spiral ridge
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On AV sets

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I don’t think it was on Lorb sets

south shuttle
astral kelp
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oh thats not bad

spiral ridge
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Prio is just useful tool, take out low health enemies

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But yeah chien would hate it

astral kelp
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specially on a slow mon like ursa

spiral ridge
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It was you talking of moon ursa iirc

south shuttle
astral kelp
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when no trick room and youre gonna die vacuum wave lets you do that last hit before dying

spiral ridge
astral kelp
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yeah you can break sash pretty easily

spiral ridge
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Gets you outta speed tiers for at least last hurrah

astral kelp
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^ yea it feels lowkey amazing

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losing blood moon hyper voice or earth power sucks thio

south shuttle
spiral ridge
astral kelp
spiral ridge
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Oh I thought it was only AV

astral kelp
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probably i just kinda winged the ursa set

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ayo no protect wtf was i cooking

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this looks so ass

south shuttle
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peak

astral kelp
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holy shit how does ursa bm have 65 spd

south shuttle
astral kelp
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i wouldnt call 113 monster

bold geode
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Yeah
Her and Nova just damn

south shuttle
astral kelp
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Ya that's why I was commenting on the spd cuz it's like lower than I thought it was

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It's just very all in defence

south shuttle
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bulky all around

astral kelp
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Yeah normal ursa is a fucking demon

solid frigate
astral kelp
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Only reason I was running bm over normal is because of weezing

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Which was pretty cool since if I needed to hit a ghost type all I had to do was switch weezer out

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Ooh wait maybe I'll slap ursa bm on the current team I'm working on

misty helm
mighty stump
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Turn efficiency would be terrible to use Toxic

misty helm
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Oh yeah poison gas hits both opponents

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Why do you need neutralizing gas when all of your Pokémon have good abilities though

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Especially when you already have 2 Pokémon weak to ground

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Alright is relic ready for bss

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Also I have a good question if incinaroar is running around so much why not use something like empoleon or galarian zapdos that can easily silence the thing

next stump
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Empoleon explodes to Miraidon, same with Galarian Zapdos

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I do think Ogerpon-Teal could actually be a decent meta pick but then you run into stuff like CIR that’s everywhere and love facing it

chrome knot
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dillonSphealBounce

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are u portland goer?

lost sun
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thoughts

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lunala has tr instead of psychic now

misty helm
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Is max attack and hp good for zamazenta

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With
behemoth bash
crunch
Iron defense and
body press

south shuttle
lost sun
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incase the oponent has tr

near crag
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I'm hard stuck on a four pokemon core of zacian, kyogre, roaring moon, and amoonguss, any ideas on other possible additions? Feel like ursh or hands are great, but it seems for there to be better options

molten oasis
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landorous

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i lke cornerstone a lot, incin

near crag
molten oasis
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i havent had much of an issue with it

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if you are scared of that stay on shifu

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and mirai incin sucks for zac

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it does not suck for lando

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lando also gives you another strong special attacker, i also just think lando is the goat

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fairy and ground coverage is hella strong

near crag
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Okay, so now we need one more. Maybe hands? Or you think smth else is the call here

molten oasis
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if you go lando, you go incin

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unless you're confident hands is enough to help with CIR

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either or is fine tho

near crag
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I think hands could be a bit better rn, cuz we can't deal too much damage to water types, plus that anti synergy from a fire type in rain isn't there. Although intimidate and parting shot is stupid good

solid frigate
molten oasis
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you run the fire for the ice resist

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you dont run flare blitz either you go wisp

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and i personally like going thunder kyogre

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but my team is also cornerstone over amoonguss

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if you want that tho go hands

misty helm
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How good is Koraidon with heat crash

chrome knot
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not

solid frigate
exotic grotto
misty helm
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I just looked it up

exotic grotto
gentle cragBOT
misty helm
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He’s 300 kg roughly

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Which isn’t anything light but it’s not heavy enough to justify heat crash

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Considering most of the competition runs Pokémon that are over 400 kg

spiral ridge
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Reg Fat

polar canyon
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Calyrex ice ruins heat crash

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How fat is that horse

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How is the horse heavier than a giant triceratops sabertooth thing

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I want to hit caly ice with heat crash gouging fire

dense latch
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horses weigh a lot

solid frigate
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252 Atk Life Orb Koraidon Heat Crash (40 BP) vs. 212 HP / 4 Def Calyrex-Ice in Rain: 21-26 (10.3 - 12.8%) -- possible 8HKO
how the ffuck you made Koraidon's Caly Ice MU even worse-

dense latch
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and it’s a big ass horse

polar canyon
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Ok fair actually

solid frigate
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252 Atk Life Orb Orichalcum Pulse Tera Fire Koraidon Heat Crash (40 BP) vs. 212 HP / 4 Def Calyrex-Ice in Sun: 133-156 (65.8 - 77.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Oh ok thats not too bad but like

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why make the MU worse

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252 Atk Life Orb Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Heat Crash (40 BP) vs. +1 100 HP / 236+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned in Sun: 52-62 (28.8 - 34.4%) -- 3.3% chance to 3HKO

solid frigate
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i was deilvery man for the calcs

south shuttle
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yeah that bruxish team flopped 😭

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@misty helm why heat crash when you can just run temper flare or flare blitz

polar canyon
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Been trying to get back into competitive just to get bored of team building 15 minutes in

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Because I don't like building with most of what's viable rn

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Someone give team pls

craggy dagger
chrome knot
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oh no, actually, im okay thanks

solid frigate
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turn 1 freeze on CSR wins me the game kek

craggy dagger
solid frigate
near crag
solid frigate
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WOOOOOOOOOOO

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THANK YOU KYOGRE DODGING THE PARA

wanton blade
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ok awesome thank u so much

gentle cragBOT
near crag
craggy dagger
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The Sunnnnnnnn

spiral ridge
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Mhm

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You have Hlilli add tork poliwhirlkek

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More sun

near crag
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This time I went a little more standard, but still think it has some unique things about it

foggy lodge
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What is tera ghost hands for?

misty helm
craggy dagger
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for singles, maybe not
for doubles
looks mostly like it KEKWCRY

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agility goltres RosThink

chrome knot
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split comp discussion 2025

misty helm
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So you think these tactics could work in singles

molten oasis
bold geode
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Y'all deal with this
Me too tired

craggy dagger
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even then you’ve got like a
70% chance you just get nuked and lose

chrome knot
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nobaaaa

misty helm
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With my current collection

craggy dagger
chrome knot
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hhaaiiiiiii ^-^

craggy dagger
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hru doing?

chrome knot
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unsure!

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hru :3

craggy dagger
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i’m doin okay
feeling a bit tired tho MumeiDead2

chrome knot
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felt

craggy dagger
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it’s been an interesting week for sure though

chrome knot
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ohh?

craggy dagger
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many sleepless nights tryna figure out things for my project i started on

chrome knot
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ohhh

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make sure you get some good rest soon

craggy dagger
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debugging sucks MumeiDead2

chrome knot
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im bugging

near crag
solid frigate
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doesn't Hands always Outlasts Zama tho

chrome knot
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ok but imagine forcing heavy slams

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and ursaluna has to headlong for neutral and u low kick for ko

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🤩

molten oasis
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Bug hands is goated

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Oh ig ghost lets you sit infront of Ursa, don’t have to take facade

near crag
ashen briar
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Idk if anyone’s doing this yet, but I really like the idea of Tera ghost Tera blast zamazenta

solid frigate
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why.

ashen briar
solid frigate
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you have your own Calyrex tho

ashen briar
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Nah

solid frigate
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Double res hello?

ashen briar
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I no no wanna

chrome knot
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why

ashen briar
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If I’m running zam I’m almost always running a rain team or a Miraidon pair, cause I’m not a huge fan of the usual pairs

solid frigate
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i'm running Rain i have close to no issue to CSR tho lmao

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i rather think of how can i beat Koraidon more than beat CSR cuz i multiple way

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and Zama Ghost blast is not the way

ashen briar
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Tera ghost is a solid counter to koraidon tho

near crag
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might aswell tera fairy in Bo1, for korai

ashen briar
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Cause they typically run like either a choice item, or life orb, close combat protect

solid frigate
chrome knot
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tera fire flare blitzcelebrating

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5 big booms for zamazenta

ashen briar
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Why not Tera fire Tera blast?

near crag
solid frigate
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are you THAT obsessed with Tera blast

ashen briar
near crag
ashen briar
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Cause I like doing life orb koraidon if anything

solid frigate
craggy dagger
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tera blast zamazenta doesn’t make sense

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i’m really sorry

solid frigate
ashen briar
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I never said I was good, I just thought it was a fun idea🌜

chrome knot
craggy dagger
near crag
chrome knot
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oh…

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cries idk

molten oasis
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Eeeeehhhhhh

solid frigate
craggy dagger
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flying type in gravity GraniCry

molten oasis
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I think the Tera blast Zac stuff worked better in reg g

craggy dagger
molten oasis
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Right now Zac prefers sub/sd or scared sword

craggy dagger
chrome knot
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omg emolga hiii….

molten oasis
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Its fine but your other restricted should do enough work Zac wouldn’t neee to run it

solid frigate
chrome knot
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she so cute and silly

molten oasis
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I also think the Tera ground Zac stuff sucks personally

craggy dagger
molten oasis
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Don’t love clicking Tera then becoming weak to shifu oldmanshrug

craggy dagger
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or was it both-

molten oasis
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Or ice rider

near crag
chrome knot
craggy dagger
craggy dagger
chrome knot
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leech seeds you😱

craggy dagger
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also i never realized but like
154 special defence??

near crag
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Only use case I rly see for tera blast is with stellar, but it's niche

molten oasis
craggy dagger
molten oasis
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Zacogre doesn’t run wide guard

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Most zacian teams don’t run wide guard

craggy dagger
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me who’s testing zacnala HO

molten oasis
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Ok you do, and that’s fine I’m more saying in a general sense

craggy dagger
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yeah that’s fair tho

near crag
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And with lunala, it can't afford to wide guard bot in tr

craggy dagger
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power herb meteor beam rayquaza….

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god
this thing gets no good physical dragon moves

solid frigate
near crag
molten oasis
left bobcat
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U right

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DRAGON RUSH?

molten oasis
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That move sucks so much lmao

tiny karmaBOT
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Move: Dragon Rush

Has a 20% chance to make the target flinch. Damage doubles and no accuracy check is done if the target has used Minimize while active.

Type

Dragon

Category

Physical

Power

100

Accuracy

75

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

molten oasis
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75% accuracy for a 100 bp move 🥀

solid frigate
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sad

astral kelp
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I love leech seed

spiral ridge
molten oasis
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She’s been playing cool stuff

spiral ridge
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debugging sounds like it doesnt play lmfao

solid frigate
spiral ridge
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pft

solid frigate
spiral ridge
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mhm?

solid frigate
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gonna grind more mats

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cuz i am done with Miraidon+Kyogre (In a good way)

spiral ridge
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glll

solid frigate
spiral ridge
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is it just relic rolling or no?

solid frigate
spiral ridge
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oo ok so either almost doneor not very if rolls are ass lmfao

solid frigate
spiral ridge
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um idk stats wanted but looks good
wow that speed

molten oasis
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If I had energy to play that game I would

spiral ridge
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gj

molten oasis
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I rarely play mobile games that requires a lot of active playing, I like arknights for a reason

spiral ridge
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fair

solid frigate
molten oasis
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The exception is like, geometry dash lol

spiral ridge
solid frigate
solid frigate
spiral ridge
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is it?

solid frigate
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however new relic set might it slightly harder but bis so far

spiral ridge
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nice

solid frigate
molten oasis
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It’s a game about learning timings for a level

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If you’re raging stop playing the game lol

solid frigate
solid frigate
spiral ridge
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neat

molten oasis
craggy dagger
spiral ridge
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oahh
can i see when done :3

molten oasis
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Is it what I think it is? I won’t share if it is cutezacian

craggy dagger
craggy dagger
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idm if you share it here MumeiBliss

molten oasis
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Eh I won’t

solid frigate
bold geode
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@spiral ridge 🖕

spiral ridge
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@bold geode apologize

bold geode
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LMAO

spiral ridge
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oh hey the timing of that
say sorry to us both bitch

bold geode
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Why

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Oh
BITCH QUIT LEAKING MY TWITCH

spiral ridge
bold geode
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Sounds like my Twitch

solid frigate
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i got gazed by Aeon of 1%

spiral ridge
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pain :(

solid frigate
spiral ridge
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shes pretty ive grown really fond of her design for not playing

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wish i was around to pull her ngl

chrome knot
solid frigate
chrome knot
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this should not be legal in any capacity bruh

solid frigate
chrome knot
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cir 1v3 my GOAT

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clam is NEVER doin dat LOL

craggy dagger
solid frigate
near crag
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What y'all think about clear amulet iron hands? My team has few protects, so that could maybe solve it

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Also could drop the scarf on my lando, or smth on my amoonguss, but giving up on the assault vest seems like the better choice

molten oasis
near crag
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you think I'm better off with lorb lando, or no sludge bomb amoonguss, then?

foggy lodge
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But I think AV has way too much value in this format

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Amulet Hands was better for reg G I think

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Even electric seed was used

molten oasis
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I think scarf lacks damage

near crag
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Cuz the team in question is using roaring moon, w kyogre and zacian

molten oasis
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Yea

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Ik, you don’t really need the scarf on lando imo

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Idt you need scarf much at all for moon zacogre

near crag
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And why is that?

solid frigate
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honestly Scarf Ogre is just not worth it on ZacOgre/MiraiOgre/CSROgre

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cuz you either want it to be bulky or moderately fast

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also you need protect on Kyogre

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cuz Rilla is a bi-

molten oasis
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Lando and Zac force miraidon into a 50/50

chrome knot
molten oasis
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Lmfao

solid frigate
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or like me,trolling Lunala to trick room but i am faster than Lunala under TR lmao

molten oasis
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Insert female rillaboom here

near crag
solid frigate
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anyways

Mystic Water Kyogre.

Can be build slow and Bulky or Fast

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honestly i just exploit Lunala Indeedee Lead with Kyogre and Grimm lol

molten oasis
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So you can afford mystic water kyogre

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I never have tried wellspring but I like cornerstone

solid frigate
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its more like

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ZacOgre don't mind don't have Urshifu

near crag
molten oasis
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Brother what

solid frigate
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slow spore is more better-

molten oasis
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Why you got quick claw lmao

solid frigate
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its not gonna 100% Proc-

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slow Spores are more better anyway

near crag
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I know, just a weird tech I'm trying out

solid frigate
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ALSO CLOAK IS RIGHT THERE

near crag
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But besides that, how's that looking?

bold geode
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It's standard so fine but take that Claw off

molten oasis
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Cloak or rocky helm

near crag
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Ight

craggy dagger
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claw why

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i play weird sets but like
claw-
MumeiWhat2

solid frigate
bold geode
molten oasis
bold geode
molten oasis
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Nuh uh

craggy dagger
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spray the cats

solid frigate
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i'm gonna let you guys figure it out

left bobcat
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SCHYEAH

molten oasis
bold geode
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NO CRY

chrome knot
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nooooo :(

bold geode
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The horse of approval has spoken

bold geode
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@chrome knot would you like me if I was a worm

chrome knot
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nope

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:3

bold geode
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True
I'd cast the worm
Try to catch a fish

molten oasis
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I will tell my gf (when I get one) no lol

chrome knot
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LOL

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the when I get one is crazy lmfao

spiral ridge
molten oasis
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See I’m too handsome so no one talks to me jakesexo

near crag
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Guys, it’s just pheromone maxxing

molten oasis
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im all serious im not looking to get into a relationship rn. I wouldn’t date myself so why should they lol. I wanna work on myself

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Need a stable job and an apartment

craggy dagger
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mood hehe

near crag
molten oasis
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I should start going to the gym

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But I wanna learn how to drive first

astral kelp
molten oasis
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Damn lol

near crag
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Honestly, make the gym a therapy session. If you go there just looking forward to improving as a person, it makes it feel great

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I’m still benching like 140 lbs, but even when the weights don’t grow, I know I have

lofty tartan
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Progressive overload is my king

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And I, a servant

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I don't go to the gym. I do a 4 day upper/lower split.

molten oasis
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Hm…

lofty tartan
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Arnold presses cooked me today arkeknine

near crag
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I do need to confess I have not done leg press in a bit, and I’m still pushing 300 lbs

molten oasis
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That would be easier for me I think

lofty tartan
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Dumbells and a pull up bar are awesome for just starting out

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A curl bar will run you like 50 to 100

near crag
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Pull-up bar could be useless if you’re overweight, but great if you want to gain muscle mass

astral kelp
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tera ghost specs csr one shots miraidon holy

lofty tartan
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You can do A LOT with dumbells

lofty tartan
near crag
lofty tartan
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But like dumbells and body weight exercises are an incredible starting point

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Even if you can't do a full push up you can start with knee pushups

near crag
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Also a bench (even if you use with no bar) could be of great use too

molten oasis
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Are those expensive?

lofty tartan
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Yes a flat bench elevates your exercises a ton

lofty tartan
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When I started

molten oasis
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That’s not too bad

lofty tartan
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It's not bad at all.

molten oasis
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Good investment

lofty tartan
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Oh. A grip trainer.

near crag
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Take a shuffle through Craig’s list (if that’s a thing where you live), and should find someone looking to throw some stuff away

astral kelp
lofty tartan
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Work your forearms every arm day and ladies are gonna look

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I add palm up and palm down wrist curls to every arm day, as well as crunches and elbow planks to every workout day.

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Levitation crunches

near crag
lofty tartan
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I do grip trainers when I'm just doing other stuff. It's a downtime workout

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Gyms are superior though for cable machines

lofty tartan
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Dude no joke. Lol

astral kelp
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arms are everything

lofty tartan
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My wife like touches my forearms randomly now

molten oasis
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lol that’s cool

lofty tartan
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Don't skip leg day.

astral kelp
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like you can be the ugliest mf in the world but if you have nice arms

lofty tartan
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Honestly Drago the toughest thing you're gonna face is being consistent

molten oasis
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So, grip trainer, 5-20 pounds dumbbells, pull up bar

lofty tartan
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And a flat bench

molten oasis
lofty tartan
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It opens up stuff like incline presses

near crag
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Also, might suck, but cardio is fantastic for you, run for an hour post workout, and the next one will feel smoother

lofty tartan
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You get to target specific muscle groups better by changing angles

molten oasis
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Interesting

astral kelp
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its fucked how like if you lose consistancy for a little bit everything derails

molten oasis
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Yea

lofty tartan
molten oasis
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It’s rough. It’ll probably take some time to get a full routine going

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And this should be easy to move around

astral kelp
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i fucking hate cardio i have asmtha so i die within like 15 minutes

molten oasis
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Plus it would help with my mental

molten oasis
lofty tartan
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Cardio is rough at first but it builds endurance

astral kelp
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i saw a thing recently about training your lungs over training cardio

lofty tartan
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Then it's cake

near crag
bold geode
astral kelp
molten oasis
molten oasis
lofty tartan
molten oasis
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Odd lol

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May need friend request, that’s what tends to be the case

serene shuttle
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Did I get pinged

shadow wind
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Cause normal people run encore Jumpluff

lofty tartan
serene shuttle
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ah no worries no worries

astral kelp
shadow wind
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Ah well yeah

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That's a given though

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Like you gotta know you're missing half your pblades

heady onyx
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isnt pblade 85 ac ?

dull ibex
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Hello I'm alive

molten oasis
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You are? Crazy

shadow wind
dull ibex
molten oasis
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Yea lol. Anyway how are you doing?

craggy dagger
astral kelp
molten oasis
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This is why we don’t play groudon jumpluff, everything will miss

astral kelp
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btw do you think i should go max speed max spa or i should do this half assed tanky build

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its big speed control

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and im not gonna switch it out unless it dies since itsnot sun

molten oasis
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I lowkey think it be cool if we got a new set of terrains or some new mechanic and we get something like gravity

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Consistency Wolfe_Hello

astral kelp
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i would love that

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gravity on switch in

shadow wind
astral kelp
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the overqwill sauce

molten oasis
languid ocean
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damn

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climbed up to 1456 with Gastrodon

astral kelp
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nah surely gastorodon is monstrous right now now that i think of it

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insane typing for current meta

tiny karmaBOT
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Gastrodon [Water/Ground]
Immune

Electric

Resists (0.5x)

Fire, Poison, Rock, Steel

Neutral damage

Bug, Dark, Dragon, Fairy, Fighting, Flying, Ghost, Ground, Ice, Normal, Psychic, Stellar, Water

Weak (4x)

Grass

Type Notes

Ground-types take no damage from Sandstorm.

astral kelp
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oof ogerpon and rilla tho

sharp cobalt
near crag
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The sauce for weather teams is annihilape though, if you get to final gambit their main weather setter it's just game

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And even if you don't bring, they need to respect the monkey

foggy lodge
solid frigate
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P2 THE GOAT

astral kelp
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man making a non meteor beam lunala set is so weird

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like i feel like that ev spread should be tanky but i got half healthed through shadow shield by volt switch

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like jesus mchrist

left bobcat
solid frigate
sharp cobalt
astral kelp
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i need to fix this team if i want to use choice band land-t lol

woven pelican
woven pelican
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do you want the gif PikaLmao

bold geode
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There we go

woven pelican
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you just did it anyways

bold geode
south shuttle
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what do you guys think should be ran on a physical defense amoongus?

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im running the usual rocky helmet and effect spore, but for the last move do I got for protect or some recovery like synthesis

south shuttle
astral kelp
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unless you dont like protect then you can go like clear smog or even fucking foul play lol

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but its def worse

south shuttle
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with rocky helmet

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effect spore makes more sense no?

next stump
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no, because you will screw yourself over with spore not working sometimes on para or poisoned targets

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it’s much more consistent to run regenerator

south shuttle
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alright

astral kelp
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OH EFFECT SPORE

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i forgot that was ability lol

next stump
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hello 🙂

solid frigate
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you going to portland or not?

next stump
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nope, I’m at a sporting event for the school I teach at this weekend

solid frigate
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ah ok

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good luuck on that event anyway

left bobcat
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GO TEACH GOOOO TEACH

red willow
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I see effect spore amoonguss and raise you an already burned ursaluna

gloomy gull
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Trying to find people in my area, Louisville, into VGC. Looked for local events but all are TCG would really like to have some people local to chat with and run things by and such.

solid frigate
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i think Louisville has VGC community idk

red willow
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Im only about 50 mins-an hour out from there but Im in the middle of nowhere lmao

chrome knot
south shuttle
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i really like rapid style urshifu right now

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specifically scarf

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paired with kyogre it's nice

bold geode
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Live look at a caveman discovering fire

solid frigate
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so true

summer shore
craggy dagger
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douse the fire
fire bad

south shuttle
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i just started vgc

bold geode
bold geode
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Hello

solid frigate
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dw

south shuttle
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yeah one big issue im having is miraidon

bold geode
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Well you're gonna have that naturally with those two Pokemon so

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Good thing we got 4 other slots to fill

south shuttle
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i was thinking iron treads

chrome knot
bold geode
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Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeehhhh
On a Kyogre team idk

bold geode
south shuttle
chrome knot
bold geode
south shuttle
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this was the team i was running +amoongus

bold geode
chrome knot
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oh my fucking god what is that

south shuttle
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i could think of

bold geode
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Not the Dusk Mane

south shuttle
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dusk was supposed to be a flutter mane counter

chrome knot
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HUH

bold geode
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

south shuttle
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max spdef and prism body

bold geode
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You're still weak to it

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If you're looking for that, Zacian is right there

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Helps with Flutter and bike

south shuttle
bold geode
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Anyways yeah um
I would do that
Also Archaludon
Nah

bold geode
south shuttle
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right now im trying to experiment with talonflame tailwind

bold geode
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Tornadus

south shuttle
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prankster doesnt work on dark types, im going for gale wings

bold geode
south shuttle
bold geode
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Tailwind works cuz it's not targeting
But if you try to Taunt an Incineroar with Tornadus, then it gets blocked unless it's tera'd to another type

south shuttle
bold geode
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Pokémon No. 663: Talonflame
Types

Fire/Flying

Abilities

Flame Body, Gale Wings (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

78/81/71/74/69/126

Total

499

bold geode
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You ain't doing much with that stat KekCry

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Besides, Tornadus has more synergy with Kyogre

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Hurricane and Bleakwind never miss in Rain, Flying type can hit the Grass types that Kyogre can't hit with Water, can set up Rain manually in case of switch ins, can set speed control, probably something else I'm missing

south shuttle
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twave can work too

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ok let me try it

bold geode
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Thunder Wave? Nah
Wait it got that

south shuttle
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nevermind

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that was thunderous

bold geode
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Also other adjustments I'd make
I'd like to see U Turn over Ice Spinner on that Urshifu and like
Honestly Tera Grass + Ice Beam on Kyogre over Icy Wind and Water tera will help the Miraidon MU some

molten oasis
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Just use Tornadus

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Tornadus doesn’t get nerfed by being in rain like talon does

bold geode
molten oasis
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Hmm, guys Hawkeye is too strong, nerf strange

bold geode
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Actually y'know what bro
I agree with Flats
I've seen enough, buff Luna

molten oasis
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Buff Luna? Why?

gentle cragBOT
bold geode
molten oasis
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ic

bold geode
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At least directly

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They did the ult cost nerfs but like they've basically done that with everyone

solid frigate
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Dusk Mane

WITH CLOAK???

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WHAT HAVE YOU DONE TO MY ARCHALUDON

bold geode
#

Portland tomorrow, let's go

solid frigate
bold geode
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It burned me

chrome knot
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wat

solid frigate
bold geode
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They deserved it

heady onyx
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which ive seen come out a fair amount of times so far in reg I onto my shroom and my ape tbh

bold geode
heady onyx
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im pretty sure its one of the best coverage options on the whale

heady onyx
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i wouldnt tech my team in a way to counter grass in a way that tries to fill a bad matchup

bold geode
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Huh

heady onyx
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id go back to the drawing board if Grass type were that much of a roadblock

bold geode
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Tornadus Kyogre is a known combo

heady onyx
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it being known doesnt mean people run it

bold geode
heady onyx
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you can combo a lot of known things, doesnt mean they hold up to the power level of said format

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i dont expect tornadus to be on every kyogre team

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whereas i expect every kyogre to be on kyogre team

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so ice beam coverage ends up way more consistent

bold geode
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You can still run both or not

heady onyx
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id look into other members to pull more leverage into counters

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Tornadus is deployed early for Prankster Tailwind in most games

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at least in master ball, cant talk about your experience much

bold geode
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Ok
He was using Talonflame for speed control
I said Tornadus would be better and listed reasons
So I think that like
Still fits

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Huh?

heady onyx
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so no one reacts with pivots or what ?

bold geode
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Brother when did I bring up pivots

heady onyx
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i am bringing them up

bold geode
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This is a speed control suggestion

heady onyx
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i asked the question 🙂

bold geode
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I mean
Some people do
Some don't
Depends on board states tbh

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But I don't see how that correlates to me suggesting Tornadus over Talonflame

heady onyx
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the board state is supposed to suggest Kyogre being threatened by a grass move

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if we're following the same convo

bold geode
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Well yeah
Guess what
Tornadus can threaten those
It can Tailwind
Can also Bleakwind
Tera is also available
There's ways here

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If we wanna break down every possibility now

heady onyx
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so you run offensive tornadus over support

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interesting

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maybe you got something with the therian form + regenerator

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that sounds interesting

bold geode
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No
You can still do good chip at least to stuff
Though I guess offensive ain't bad either

bold geode
heady onyx
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oh sorry, thought you were highly ranked with the competitive helper tag

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my bad

bold geode
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No I meant high as in under the influence

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But you're probably too young to know about drugs

heady onyx
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im probably older then you

bold geode
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Maybe

heady onyx
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i got kids

bold geode
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Idk

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Cool

heady onyx
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not sure suggesting drug usage in pokemon discord for all age groups is a good thing

bold geode
#

Anyways we're getting sidetracked here
Anyways Tornadus Kyogre is a duo that's been known
I was merely suggesting it
If they run it? Cool
If not? Also cool
If you read somewhere later probably you'll also see me recommend Tera Grass and Ice Beam which are both good things for Grass damage

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Merely doing what I do
Advising
Suggesting
Yada yada

heady onyx
#

do you attend tournaments ?

bold geode
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I do not
I do have multiple ways of knowing stuff though, whether it be resources, people who do attend

heady onyx
#

just asking 1 question bud

#

knowing you don't attend tournaments is all I need to know

bold geode
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I was answering said question

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I mean if that's all the qualifications there is, talk to Dillon
He made finals in Milwaukee
But then again
Have you attended a tournament?

heady onyx
#

I have

bold geode
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Ok cool

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Idk why we have to judge each other on ranked ladder and shit
Obviously I have a role for a reason

heady onyx
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i dont know

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normally ranked performance is a good testimony to someone's skill

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you don't want a bad player with googling skills to give out advice normally

bold geode
#

Thankfully that's not me
Y'know what
What you consider on ranked performance

heady onyx
#

the ranking you get on showdown or the ladder

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someone that can get very high mmr in a game tends to be a good player don't you think ?

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mmr is match making rating

bold geode
#

I've hit 1600 in SD ladder before
1500 with 75+% GXE
Master Ball way too many times, hitting top 100 at one point (missed Master Ball once this gen but it was during a break so)
And trusted for advice by probably quite a few people
If you really wanna get into specifics and credentials

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Idk why you wanna press people on that anyways

heady onyx
#

not people, you

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im asking you, not the whole world

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thought this is competitive discussion

bold geode
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Kinda not cool anyways to come into places and start questioning people

heady onyx
#

already mika that shuts down new players with elitist attitude

bold geode
#

Nah bud

heady onyx
#

the way you brought the ''known'' pairing was a red flag to me

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so im keen on asking

bold geode
#

You keep tryna start stuff and arguments with staff constantly, as I have seen before
Imma ask you once
Stop doing that

chrome knot
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bad time to clock outta work, huh….KL1Disappoint

molten oasis
#

The argument ended so, not really ig

chrome knot
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slow & steady wins the race

#

june had work today so

balmy glen
#

moment

chrome knot
#

keanu

balmy glen
#

sup

chrome knot
#

are u portland gamig

balmy glen
#

yes

bold geode
chrome knot
#

seed gaming?

balmy glen
#

Zama CSR

chrome knot
#

visual discomfort on my face

bold geode
balmy glen
#

I am North America’s CSR Zama’s last builder

chrome knot
#

not rly i know another guy

bold geode
balmy glen
bold geode
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Oh?

#

Was it in Utrecht or another event

balmy glen
#

Utrecht

bold geode
#

Oh damn
Weird that I missed it

#

Can't wait bro
Shit needs some life breathed into it

balmy glen
#

I mean it’s not much diff

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Just some move techs

balmy glen
chrome knot
balmy glen
#

Oh so Neil

bold geode
#

LMFAO

balmy glen
#

I’m using Neil’s Execution

chrome knot
#

what on eart does that mean

bold geode
#

Bro rose from the eart

balmy glen
#

just ask him

#

Iykyk

bold geode
#

What Neil we talking bout

balmy glen
#

Redemption arc one

chrome knot
#

i think if i paid more attention to the AI stories i would but

bold geode
#

Patel?

chrome knot
bold geode
#

Bruh

chrome knot
#

gl tomorrow tho!! cheering for you @balmy glen

chrome knot
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atp he craftin the ladders teamFukingDies

molten oasis
#

-8ball is this team the one

gentle cragBOT
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is this team the one
:8ball: Outlook not so good

molten oasis
#

-8ball are you lying

gentle cragBOT
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are you lying
:8ball: Reply hazy try again

molten oasis
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-8ball r u lying

gentle cragBOT
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r u lying
:8ball: It is decidedly so

molten oasis
bold geode
gentle cragBOT
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should Drago sugma nuts
:8ball: Cannot predict now

bold geode
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Wow

molten oasis
#

Lmao

bold geode
#

-8ball should I commit Kermit pool

gentle cragBOT
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should I commit Kermit pool
:8ball: As I see it, yes

molten oasis
#

-8ball does the horse approve

gentle cragBOT
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does the horse approve
:8ball: It is certain

chrome knot
#

smol wins today, still low elo but bo3 feels so much more rewarding than bo1

chrome knot
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im ngl

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seed cir creates long ass games, my ass WILL be sleeping alot before naic

bold geode
chrome knot
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i think fixing sleep schedule might be a mandatory task😭

bold geode
#

Fr

astral kelp
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lol what was happening betwene monke and rotom guy

foggy lodge
#

eh its better to let it die

astral kelp
astral kelp
chrome knot
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waow that was a fun read

astral kelp
#

nah what was bro on about HAHAHAH

chrome knot
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i

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yknow i have no idea

molten oasis
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You read the epic argument lol

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That was a fun read

astral kelp
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some of my favorites was randomly bringing up pivots, randomly getting offended by "high", bringing up fucking torn-T and quote "whereas i expect every kyogre to be on kyogre team"

bold geode
astral kelp
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alg o7

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understandable

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about torn, what are you guy's thoughts on sash protect on torn

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i was running it on an e-force team with 4th move sunny day/rain dance and it feels pretty great to live a volt switch or meteor beam

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but it kinda sucks not having taunt

molten oasis
#

It’s fine

summer shore
bold geode
spiral ridge
chrome knot
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pls wake me up if i do

molten oasis
summer shore
bold geode
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Nothin much
Life
I am working on a blogpost for a Solgaleo team I used in GC
Other than that nothing much
I was working out but I been slacking lately

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@summer shore

spiral ridge
summer shore
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I topped a major event recently

molten oasis
#

Can’t make the gains if you don’t do it

bold geode
bold geode
summer shore
#

Equivalent to a nationals

bold geode
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Ayo that shit tight

chrome knot
#

monke in a vgc draft league i have p2 ursa vivi gholdengo am i eating good

summer shore
bold geode
astral kelp
#

first team draft is feeling pretty epic

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archie is kinda ass i probably want to go for a sturdy build

chrome knot
astral kelp
#

or something else

#

any ideas for what to go instead of archie?

bold geode
#

Trust

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Fake Out, Intimidate, and you can WG your own EQs

chrome knot
#

alo has fake out, volt switch and a number of support moves

bold geode
#

Damn

astral kelp
#

it learns encore right?

tiny karmaBOT
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Raichu-Alola's moveset:
Physical Moves

Bide, Body Slam, Brick Break, Counter, Covet, Dig, Double Kick, Double Slap, Double-Edge, Dynamic Punch, Endeavor, Extreme Speed, Facade, Fake Out, Feint, Flail, Fling, Fly, Focus Punch, Frustration, Giga Impact, Headbutt, Heart Stamp, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Last Resort, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Natural Gift, Nuzzle, Pay Day, Play Rough, Present, Quick Attack, Rage, Return, Reversal, Rock Smash, Rollout, Secret Power, Seismic Toss, Skull Bash, Slam, Spark, Strength, Submission, Take Down, Thief, Thunder Punch, Trailblaze, Upper Hand, Volt Tackle, Wild Charge

Special Moves

Alluring Voice, Charge Beam, Disarming Voice, Discharge, Draining Kiss, Echoed Voice, Electro Ball, Electroweb, Expanding Force, Focus Blast, Future Sight, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Mud-Slap, Psychic, Psychic Noise, Psyshock, Rising Voltage, Round, Shock Wave, Signal Beam, Snore, Stored Power, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunder Shock, Thunderbolt, Uproar, Volt Switch, Zap Cannon

Status Moves

Agility, Ally Switch, Attract, Bestow, Calm Mind, Captivate, Celebrate, Charge, Charm, Confide, Curse, Defense Curl, Detect, Double Team, Eerie Impulse, Electric Terrain, Encore, Endure, Fake Tears, Flash, Follow Me, Growl, Happy Hour, Helping Hand, Hold Hands, Laser Focus, Light Screen, Lucky Chant, Magic Coat, Magic Room, Magnet Rise, Mimic, Nasty Plot, Play Nice, Protect, Psychic Terrain, Rain Dance, Recycle, Reflect, Refresh, Rest, Safeguard, Sing, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Speed Swap, Substitute, Swagger, Sweet Kiss, Sweet Scent, Tail Whip, Teeter Dance, Telekinesis, Teleport, Thunder Wave, Tickle, Toxic, Wish, Yawn

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Raichu-Alola.

astral kelp
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ye if you have the terrain that seems pretty epic

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sash endeavour too :0

summer shore
tiny karmaBOT
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[gen9] Raichu-Alola
Follow Me:
  • Raichu-Alola does not learn Follow Me in Generation 9
astral kelp
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man what would you replace for electro web

tiny karmaBOT
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[gen7] Raichu-Alola
Follow Me
  • when transferred from Generation 3
lean ridge
#

alolan raichu from gen 3 what

rustic mountain
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🤨

molten oasis
bold geode
woven pelican
astral kelp
#

holy shit the amoonmiraidon

atomic mural
woven pelican
#

IH is just patting mimikyu, it's so wholesome

jade dust
#

Ignores disguise

solid frigate
molten oasis
chrome knot
astral kelp
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omg i just pulled up my old laptop

#

what was i cooking

astral kelp
polar nest
#

so im trying to figure out perish trap in this new reg, but i cant seem to find the right restricteds, i tried zama alot, but it felt kinda off, same with koraidon, and now im not sure what to use.

solid frigate
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Koraidon+Lunala is fine

polar nest
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ok

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ill give that a shot ik thats popular

solid frigate
polar nest
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but i wanna do something funny with it (:

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if it worked in G i might be able to make it work in I

#

ive made 7 trap teams this reg

solid frigate
#

i just don't think it works that well especially its 2 restricteds

polar nest
#

fair

#

i have some other wierd stuff

solid frigate
polar nest
polar nest
solid frigate
polar nest
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i think lugia snow could maybe work?

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kinda like articuno

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but also kinda like pagos cuz u wanna tera lugia almost every time

solid frigate
#

for your sanity Sake DOn't

The reason why Articuno Snow works cuz

Decent Bulk+Actually good offenses

polar nest
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ah okok

solid frigate
#

Lugia has SpA of 90 and Dies to Calyrex and Miraidon

polar nest
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true

#

when i tera barrage does only a quarter but thats still alot in snow

solid frigate
#

also yes A lot of sets have to change if you are persistent on using this

polar nest
#

ye

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im not the best with sets

#

i like to come up with concepts for team

polar nest
solid frigate
#

Psyspam CSR maybe?

#

or Psyspam Lunala?

polar nest
#

ye the psyspam team i made is lunala

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i like it cuz its bulkier

#

maybe psyspam luna + korai?

#

i js love the lake trio

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so i threw uxie and golduck on there

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cuz golduck simple beam makes calm mine mean

#

i havent tested it tho so idk if it works

solid frigate
#

Lake trio Kinda sucks tho

Azelf just likes to blow itself apart
Uxie is just diet cresselia
And Mesprit doesn’t even know which disappointing Brothers gonna follow

polar nest
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yea

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but i do like golduck

polar nest
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o cress has e force