incin hurts my other restricted
#competitive_discussion
solid frigate
CIR Kyogre moment
dense latch
also cir mirai moment
solid frigate
i rather lose to one of them instead of losing to both of them
cuz i can beat Incin consistently
solid frigate
just have something against Incin Rilla
forest arrow
chrome knot
farig is not a incin rilla check
chrome knot
farmed by cm pagos
solid frigate
farmed by cm pagos
i'm asking MU choices with Nick Holmer rn cuz i need a checklist on it
craggy dagger
farig is not a incin rilla check
it kinda is though-
if you run sap supper that is…
bold geode
farmed by cm pagos
My Solgaleo team was farmed by it even with Farig
But bruh
I was stupid
I could've used Sunsteel Strike 
solid frigate
it kinda is though-
if you run sap supper that is…
sap supper lmao
bold geode
it kinda is though-
if you run sap supper that is…
But then no Armor Tail
chrome knot
it kinda is though-
if you run sap supper that is…
fake out
atomic mural
it kinda is though-
if you run sap supper that is…
Getting flash backs to wolfes 2023 worlds team
south shuttle
omg guys i think i found the new meta pokemon
bold geode
it’s mind games <:MumeiHehe:985396246112006244>
Teamsheet
south shuttle
people miss things on team sheets often
if they even accept them
craggy dagger
you don’t really have much of a choice in vgc events
south shuttle
you don’t really have much of a choice in vgc events
oh i knoww in events you have to
i meant showdown
solid frigate
Kyogre>>>Groudon
south shuttle
Kyogre>>>Groudon
i personally prefer groudon's design
mint void
ok people. Took a break. Whats Arubega Miraidon rn?
south shuttle
ok people. Took a break. Whats Arubega Miraidon rn?
what's that
solid frigate
ok people. Took a break. Whats Arubega Miraidon rn?
dead
mint void
what's that
Gen Alpha Call
south shuttle
Gen Alpha Call
huh
south shuttle
ngl bruxish is kinda good
it's mostly good for catching fake-outs off guard
but it's pretty decent
mighty stump
HAHAHAHHA
atomic mural
Incin brick break tech is real
tranquil kraken
tranquil kraken
left bobcat
Ahh
jade dust
I decided that incin was better than tornadus for this team
walking wake is faster than caly shadow in the sun and snarl deals over half of its HP plus lowering its damage output
solid frigate
Incin has Unoptimal EVs
foggy lodge
252+ atk rilla is a choice
solid frigate
also how do we tell em about the CA Korai is not the best set now
jade dust
Incin has Unoptimal EVs
what are optimal evs
jade dust
also how do we tell em about the CA Korai is not the best set now
I know of the life orb and close combat but I dont like that build much
solid frigate
what are optimal evs
its either 3 EV stat invest or 5
4 EV stat invest throwed some stat points away
jade dust
4 EV stat invest throwed some stat points away
I mean I want some attack in to hit caly and lunala
120 def and 100 spc def with max HP already makes inci tanky
craggy dagger
120 isn’t anything is it?
or are you talking about the total stat number
jade dust
120 isn’t anything is it?
or are you talking about the total stat number
the evs invested
solid frigate
Incineroar @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 236 HP / 12 Atk / 52 Def / 156 SpD / 52 Spe
Careful Nature
- Fake Out
- Knock Off
- Will-O-Wisp
- Parting Shot
What i run anyways
+Calyrex should die to a knock off no?
craggy dagger
120 EVs is an irregular
i think that’s what morris was pointing out-
120 evs is an irregular and therefore you’re wasting a couple ev points that could get you some extra bulk 
solid frigate
0 Atk Incineroar Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Shadow: 300-352 (170.4 - 200%) -- guaranteed OHKO
also its useless to put attack stat on no flare blitz set cuz CSR dies anyway
0 Atk Incineroar Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 180 HP / 140 Def Shadow Shield Lunala: 116-140 (49.3 - 59.5%) -- 99.6% chance to 2HKO
jade dust
also its useless to put attack stat on no flare blitz set cuz CSR dies anyway
I already have 2 fire attacks in koraidon so I prefer to have some utility instead
My team didnt have taunt which is very useful
solid frigate
actually some Korai Lunala teams Incin still run Flare Blitz
Also this team might cause trouble against Double res teams cuz this basically a Lunala Team but Slapped Koraidon and Walking wake on it
forest arrow
I like running Jolly incin when running taunt
jade dust
So I should put the atk evs into speed?
solid frigate
I like running Jolly incin when running taunt
Throw may i transition to you cuz you play Koala more than me
forest arrow
Incineroar @
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 236 HP / 4 Atk / 4 Def / 12 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Parting Shot
- Fake Out
- Taunt
- Knock Off
jade dust
actually some Korai Lunala teams Incin still run Flare Blitz
Also this team mig...
Well I dont want flutter mane cuz it overlaps a lot with Lunala
What else koraidon teams use?
forest arrow
not av tho you can go safety goggles
hmm I like flutter still, Icy wind for the faster mode
you can try whims or even something like jumpluff if you really dont like flutter
solid frigate
also Ursaluna is free
forest arrow
Yeah fs
jade dust
also Ursaluna is free
He doesnt like attack drops from intimidate
forest arrow
You have wake
solid frigate
you do realise it still hits like a fucking truck in -1
-1 252+ Atk Guts Ursaluna Headlong Rush vs. 252 HP / 156+ Def Incineroar: 200-236 (99 - 116.8%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
jade dust
-1 252+ Atk Guts Ursaluna Headlong Rush vs. 252 HP / 156+ Def Incineroar: 200-23...
Yeah but I really try to keep incin alive
switch out before the bear can attack
solid frigate
@forest arrow i'm done persuading
Your turn
jade dust
<@762533079138566184> i'm done persuading
Your turn
Well I asked what are other koraidon teammates?
Besides wake
isnt Rilla good for korai?
atomic mural
flutter mane
craggy dagger
Throw may i transition to you cuz you play Koala more than me
what is this
relay race type switch in 
spiral ridge
what is this
relay race type switch in <:KEKWCRY:1166242454505259059>
he u turned into throw
solid frigate
what is this
relay race type switch in <:KEKWCRY:1166242454505259059>
Sonic Heroes ahhhh Switch in
spiral ridge
@molten oasis
molten oasis
Oo
solid frigate
<@465881273454559252>
New Arknights game?
solid frigate
ah
spiral ridge
:3
molten oasis
thought id spread the silksong cope
wtf
spiral ridge
<3
bold geode
atomic mural
i have a gif of that
rustic mountain
X
chrome knot
i love gholdengo
molten oasis
I wish that mon was better rn
I love gholdengoat
Unfortunately the goat doesn’t do shit rn lol
rustic mountain
it was good for majority of sv lol
left bobcat
I love iron bundle
rustic mountain
im curious if every gen after this one we gta collect 1000 coins each time
left bobcat
I love sweet potatoes
chrome knot
it was good for majority of sv lol
nasty plot
rustic mountain
molten oasis
it was good for majority of sv lol
Yea but I like the Mon
spiral ridge
Can’t wait for g3 into i2
rustic mountain
Yea but I like the Mon
ok and u couldve used it for like 9 of the 10 formats weve had
molten oasis
I did
rustic mountain
molten oasis
Let’s go back to reg h /jk
rustic mountain
id love that
molten oasis
Honestly, same lmao
I thought calyrex was an issue, nah miraidon is just the next zacian
rustic mountain
yea miraidon has been killing it
i think wat really helps miraidon among many things is its ability to pivot itself out
rustic mountain
wat other restricted really has that?
bold geode
Alright, took out a small chunk of the writing for the post tonight
Gonna spend rest of night working on some photos for it, editing and stuff
molten oasis
None, banded koraidon doesn’t exist
rustic mountain
especially one as good as miraidon
bold geode
And oh boy
This gonna be a long one
rustic mountain
gl
molten oasis
The other ones that use those moves are like, incin and shifu
bold geode
So far
molten oasis
Kyogre wouldn’t hate flip turn imo
bold geode
500+ words
3000+ characters
And it ain't even close yet
molten oasis
500+ words
3000+ characters
And it ain't even close yet <:KekHands:125129468646...
Gl man
rustic mountain
But letting it reposition is cool
honestly makes sense for kyogre to have lol
but i think itd still be bad onnit
volt switch is good for mirai cuz its stab and a special attack
molten oasis
On scarf at least I think it be nice
Maybe not av
Or any other set
I’d also just like if the Mon got 100% accurate water moves that weren’t spout
molten oasis
i think miraidon will be good even w/o tera
Miraidon is so strong it’ll remain that way for sure
I am excited to play rough miraidon w/out the type change in the future
crude laurel
spiral ridge
I am excited to play rough miraidon w/out the type change in the future
Lando gonna be eating gooddd
No more mind read on scarf Lando or protect to see specs lock just pure pain train
molten oasis
Fr
solid frigate
hey
astral kelp
hellow
chrome knot
i think miraidon will be good even w/o tera
arubega team will come back swinging bc not being able to tera into a resist now delete half the game
molten oasis
I hate that that set is fun to people
chrome knot
i played practice sets into it
with like 3 different teams and i could only beat it with milwaukees winning team by playing like a psycho
leading mirai/ursa & lunala/ursa
molten oasis
It’s strong
Makes sense
I’m looking at other restricteds now, i feel trapped in zacogre. Winning mindset has hit hard and im sick of staring at my builder trying to find things to play.
chrome knot
idk i just play stuff that wins
molten oasis
I like building teams, but only playing Zac limits that 
I’m now staring at Kyurem white 
solid frigate
woven pelican
that got dang red dinosaur grr,,,
lofty tartan
I’m now staring at Kyurem white <:acceptance:1342895765785149571>
Do what others are doing and play Zekrom/Kyurem-W and then just grip the rails and hold on for dear life.
Believe in the me that believes in you.
chrome knot
mika would u still love me if i brought leech seed cir
chrome knot
ooh….
mighty stump
mika would u still love me if i brought leech seed cir
I think Leech Seed CIR is garbage
chrome knot
jeremy was kicking my ass in practice so
i truly think its insane, most of our games came down to caly outhealing end games
solid frigate
Caly Moment
timber falcon
thinking of getting back into competetive pokemon, is there a plce where i can check out current meta teams?
sharp cobalt
I'm not angry - I'm just disappointed.
Everyone knows that's worse
sharp cobalt
thinking of getting back into competetive pokemon, is there a plce where i can c...
Yeah, I forgot the name though
timber falcon
is the miraidon/lunala team still relevant?
exotic grotto
is the miraidon/lunala team still relevant?
Yup! It's really strong!
spiral ridge
mika would u still love me if i brought leech seed cir
Stinky,,,
south shuttle
thinking of getting back into competetive pokemon, is there a plce where i can c...
i guess
i like to experiment with stuff rather than use meta pokemon
solid frigate
Nothing hurts to use Meta
chrome knot
thinking of getting back into competetive pokemon, is there a plce where i can c...
topcutexplorer
timber falcon
topcutexplorer
Much thanks
left bobcat
Ursh
bold geode
I think Leech Seed CIR is garbage
THANK YOU
bold geode
https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237
Ok buddy boy
As of last night
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@chrome knot
sharp cobalt
<@224303371564220418>
CUTE
molten oasis
Do what others are doing and play Zekrom/Kyurem-W and then just grip the rails a...
Lmao
chrome knot
<@224303371564220418>
omg so me....
bold geode
omg so me....
Bnuuy
molten oasis
I have discovered the power of koraidon
https://pokepast.es/ad22a2493f1cfb78 playing this rn
molten oasis
<@224303371564220418>
bold geode
molten oasis
chrome knot
bold geode
molten oasis
My cowowker “do you want to work for me today?”
Me “hell no” lol
bold geode
Real shit
Schedule messed up so I almost had to work today but I was like nah fuck that
molten oasis
https://tenor.com/view/hoppip-pokemon-hoppip-swarm-flying-whatever-go-my-gif-458...
The army of hoppips is unstoppable
molten oasis
Schedule messed up so I almost had to work today but I was like nah fuck that
Yea, like I have dnd today so I couldn’t anyway
rustic mountain
arubega team will come back swinging bc not being able to tera into a resist now...
molten oasis
But if you ask if I want to I’m going to say no lol
molten oasis
shouldve said could u
Exactly lol
rustic mountain
prolly still a no but better chance at a yes then do u want to which is always a no
molten oasis
Yea fs
south shuttle
wow
I just tried a new moveset with bruxish in reg i
It's actually pretty good
you can catch a lot of amoongus' off guard
solid frigate
brute Bonnet:
Allow me to introduce myself
bold geode
arubega team will come back swinging bc not being able to tera into a resist now...
Idk
That team had like hella prep so unless it can make a fat resurgence idt it comes around
chrome knot
wat
bold geode
Arubega
chrome knot
wat
chrome knot
wat
molten oasis
wat
molten oasis
Who?
bold geode
Wonder what patch notes gonna look like
molten oasis
I’ll probably look but I haven’t played in a while
bold geode
I’ll probably look but I haven’t played in a while
Nerf the gamma squid range lol
south shuttle
brute Bonnet:
Allow me to introduce myself
you can run the dazzling ability to negate sucker punch
it also has access to ice fang
molten oasis
Nerf the gamma squid range lol
Fr lol
solid frigate
you can run the dazzling ability to negate sucker punch
Seed Bomb:
Booster Defense Bonnet:
Farigiraf and Tsareena's Existence
heck Tsareena literally did that but also immune to Spore
south shuttle
Seed Bomb:
from my experience ice fang kills
south shuttle
Booster Defense Bonnet:
have yet to see a defensive booster
south shuttle
Farigiraf and Tsareena's Existence
ive seen some farigaraf however crunch does help kill it, although my other party members take care of it
it definitely isn't close to meta, however it does have some interesting matchups
solid frigate
from my experience ice fang kills
252 Atk Strong Jaw Bruxish Ice Fang vs. 252 HP / 136+ Def Brute Bonnet: 78-92 (35.7 - 42.2%) -- 89.8% chance to 3HKO after Leftovers recovery
does not even do Half
south shuttle
252 Atk Strong Jaw Bruxish Ice Fang vs. 252 HP / 136+ Def Brute Bonnet: 78-92 (3...
i said not defensive brutes
most were booster attack
solid frigate
252 Atk Choice Band Strong Jaw Bruxish Ice Fang vs. 252 HP / 136+ Def Brute Bonnet: 116-138 (53.2 - 63.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
It not even proto boosted btw
its just Regular bulk
south shuttle
252 Atk Choice Band Strong Jaw Bruxish Ice Fang vs. 252 HP / 136+ Def Brute Bonn...
brute bonnet is a bad matchup for it, just ice fang does good chip
solid frigate
0 Atk Brute Bonnet Seed Bomb vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Bruxish: 146-174 (102 - 121.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
south shuttle
0 Atk Brute Bonnet Seed Bomb vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Bruxish: 146-174 (102 - 121.6%) --...
what are you trying to prove with these calcs
solid frigate
also this is doubls ffs
solid frigate
what are you trying to prove with these calcs
Bonnet lives stuff like Glacial Lance and Tera is also an Option
If you want to use Prio Blockers that do damage
Tsareena exists
oh yeah btw
Miraidons are everywhere
south shuttle
oh yeah btw
Miraidons are everywhere
i run scarf on it
it outspeeds a lot of pokemon
solid frigate
i run scarf on it
yeah but does it OHKO Miraidon
before get fucked by Electro Drift
oh wait no,it can't even do that thanks to Speed Control
south shuttle
oh wait no,it can't even do that thanks to Speed Control
also you're just thinking about the negative scenarios
solid frigate
also you're just thinking about the negative scenarios
becauuse there is no positive scenarios
i tried it before.
with a Zacian team and i hate it
south shuttle
with a Zacian team and i hate it
im using a tr team]
it works nicely with ursaluna and calyrex
bold geode
Bruxish rhymes with rubbish cuz that's what it is
plain drum
You wouldn't throw away a pizza fish
bold geode
Yes I would
It missed too many Origin Pulse
solid frigate
since when we agree on Kyogre is a Pizza fish
Not that i argue its sounds funny
south shuttle
Bruxish rhymes with rubbish cuz that's what it is
dont you dare 😡
my bruxish has ohko'd many threats, it is better than the fat whale
south shuttle
since when we agree on Kyogre is a Pizza fish
Not that i argue its sounds funny
im not sure if this is a joke but bruxish's shiny form looks like a pizza
solid frigate
oh no
🇨 🇦 🇵
bold geode
my bruxish has ohko'd many threats, it is better than the fat whale
I mean I'm just stating facts
It's not really that great and it's only use is really to block priority moves which like
Use Farigiraf, it's way better there
solid frigate
or Tsareena
south shuttle
It's not really that great and it's only use is really to block priority moves w...
i tried both sets and im tlking about strong jaw now
bold geode
Ok so you're taking the one use it has away from it
south shuttle
Ok so you're taking the one use it has away from it
strong jaw is good too
ive been using it for a while , ive climbed decently higgh for trying vgc for the first time in a while
solid frigate
how high?
bold geode
Ok
I climbed decently high with a Hitmontop
It's not necessarily good just cuz you climb high cuz if so, someone very skilled could climb with a sandwich and say it's good
south shuttle
Ok
I climbed decently high with a Hitmontop
hitmontop has been on some vgc teams though
in tournaments
bold geode
Years ago
bold geode
low mid i'd say
Low mid noodles
south shuttle
also 1300+ is mid level
That’s good!
near crag
What y'all think of this team? https://pokepast.es/ffe689204a4eb0d6 I was trying to build around Miraidon CSR, and I was having some success, but I rly wanted to deviate from the standard build. Any ideas on how to improve this team?
left bobcat
What y'all think of this team? https://pokepast.es/ffe689204a4eb0d6 I was trying...
I mean it’s alright
timber falcon
What y'all think of this team? https://pokepast.es/ffe689204a4eb0d6 I was trying...
looks decent tbf
im not seeing too much control of tempo though, idk if its that necassery though. Just seems like the team is relaint on very fast paced games
not leaving too much space for defence
which is also evident through the lack of defence evs
near crag
Maybe I could make miraidon or treads a bit bulkier
timber falcon
i would make iron jugulis more bulky tbh, seems to fill the role of a support rather than a strong chipper that its evs make it out to be
id remove dark pulse for protect just to make sure youre able to get that important tailwind on the field more often than not too
And lastly, do you have any measures against pivoting rillabooms and Incin ?
near crag
And lastly, do you have any measures against pivoting rillabooms and Incin ?
Sneasler should be good against them, and I got a lot of Tera ghost mons. About iron jugulis, do you have any spreads for it? Could just copy paste from nimbasa city post, but those are kinda iffy
timber falcon
Sneasler should be good against them, and I got a lot of Tera ghost mons. About ...
Dont forget, sneasler and treads will be nerfed by intimidate
And I should have a bulky iron jugulis set one moment
Iron Jugulis @ Booster Energy
Ability: Quark Drive
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 HP / 36 Def / 68 SpA / 36 SpD / 116 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Tailwind
- Hurricane
- Protect
- Snarl
used in an old kyogre/wo-chien team, i think the evs should still be of use however
and ofc you can change the tera as you see fit
misty helm
What do you guys think is the best physical dragon move
Is dragon claw good enough on it’s own
Or would Koraidon benefit more from scale shot or outrage or something else
lean ridge
Outrage is kinda just gambling most of the time, scale shot loaded dice is pretty good for speed control and as a surprise jn bo1
misty helm
How does this move set sound for koraidon
Collision Course
Scale Shot
Iron Head
Bulk up
wooden steeple
it usually prefers running flame charge and no dragon move
wooden steeple
How does this move set sound for koraidon
Collision Course
Scale Shot
Iron Hea...
iron head and bulk up both are p bad
lean ridge
How does this move set sound for koraidon
Collision Course
Scale Shot
Iron Hea...
I think it needs flare blitz at least to take advantage of sun
And protect would be nice to have
misty helm
Okay flare blitz and drain punch
spiral ridge
collision course
misty helm
I would probably run collision course flare blitz drain punch and scale shot
How’s that set
misty helm
iron head and bulk up both are p bad
Why is iron head bad
lean ridge
What’s the held item?
misty helm
Loaded dice
wooden steeple
Why is iron head bad
Does no damage and is garbage coverage typing
lean ridge
Collision course or CC as the fighting move u don’t rlly need the healing on koraidon
wooden steeple
How’s that set
you need protect, also loaded dice is p bad
lean ridge
Most of the time it’s taking 1-2 hits at most
misty helm
Does no damage and is garbage coverage typing
What about fairies
near crag
The common set is just close combat, flare blitz, flame charge, and protect, with life orb.
That’s the best way to deal reliable, and big damage
wooden steeple
What about fairies
you do more damage to them by using a stronger fire type move (flare blitz) in the sun
lean ridge
Neutral flare blitz with orichalcum pulse is probably ohkoing most things anyways
near crag
Without that, you won’t be able to stand against mons like miraidon, and you will need to dedicate the rest of the team to deal most the damage
misty helm
you do more damage to them by using a stronger fire type move (flare blitz) in t...
Okay what if I opt for temper flare
wooden steeple
Okay what if I opt for temper flare
yea no don't do that, just stick with flare blitz
misty helm
I don’t like recoil
lean ridge
Recoil is better than taking hits from things u can ohko tho
chrome knot
@bold geode am i dreaming this or is this real
near crag
I don’t like recoil
Doesn’t matter much, it’s not there to stick around for the whole battle. It’s meant to kill like two things and die (or runaway with the game after flame charge boosts)
misty helm
Is this good
bold geode
<@817628066020065280> am i dreaming this or is this real
Mom come pick me up I'm scared
chrome knot
ok so this is for real
bold geode
Trust me
I punched myself in the face, felt the pain
It's real 
near crag
Is this good
Close combat is better, and scale shot is bad, since you want to have orb
bold geode
Whoa whoa hold up
Ok slow down
What are we asking
chrome knot
if the moveset is good in the koraidon
lean ridge
It’s slowly getting there dw
bold geode
@misty helm first off
Singles or doubles
misty helm
Singles
near crag
<@661269686800875559> first off
Singles or doubles
Didn’t think of that, you’re right
bold geode
Ok I'm just free ballin this shit then okay let's figure it out
Did we have an item to work with
misty helm
I chose loaded dice
bold geode
Oh
Then Collision Course and Scale Shot is fine
You'd just want Flare Blitz and Protect though
chrome knot
near crag
So prob seems fine. Close combat um should be a bit better though
bold geode
I forget you can do that
bold geode
So prob seems fine. Close combat um should be a bit better though
Not for Loaded Dice
Close Combat is really only good for Life Orb sets
near crag
Why? Think it should be good with all the pivots
bold geode
Close Combat is used on those sets cuz with Life Orb you prefer to just have the delete button
chrome knot
cc lorb is like making sure you always KO
koraidon playstyle is trading % or stats for always finding KOs or positive trades on your board
bold geode
Yeah
Any other item and you're wanting Koraidon to stick around longer
near crag
And thinking of it now, you should want not to pivot as frequently in bss, or with loaded dice
lean ridge
I rlly like the loaded dice scale shot into miraidon matchups
They almost never Tera in front of koraidon and no one expects the scale shot
chrome knot
interesting
lean ridge
Just from my experience in bo1 ranked ladder tho
near crag
And there the most common Tera is electric, so you shouldn’t even bother too much
chrome knot
flare blitz still
misty helm
What should be that last move slot
near crag
I’d say U-turn seems fine
misty helm
I’m the type of player who thinks of switching as running away cowardly
chrome knot
literally why
lean ridge
If that’s the case I have the perfect move for u
near crag
That’s not rly it. Switches can pressure your opponent, sometimes more than an attack
lean ridge
SWORDS DANCE
chrome knot
@bold geode what if comp discussion were split into two
misty helm
SWORDS DANCE
Alright that works
misty helm
Thanks for the help building my set guys
bold geode
<@817628066020065280> what if comp discussion were split into two
Only if I can be the dad that goes to the store for milk
chrome knot
what the
near crag
Only if I can be the dad that goes to the store for milk
Been there, done that
lean ridge
Thanks for the help building my set guys
Make sure u change the tera type tho if ur never planning to switch 😭
misty helm
Make sure u change the tera type tho if ur never planning to switch 😭
I don’t really like to use Tera
near crag
No Tera and no switch, one counter and that’s kinda game
lean ridge
1 speed booster flutter and ur korai is just dead tho 😭
At least Tera fire to resist fairy
chrome knot
I don’t really like to use Tera
god i sure hope they don’t click a fairy type move
misty helm
Okay Tera fire
chrome knot
it sure would suck if miraidons most used item was choice scarf with dgleam😱😱
misty helm
chrome knot
this would nawt happen tho surely
misty helm
Would you say my stat spread is alright
chrome knot
im sure 252/252 jolly will be fine
misty helm
I’m a little bit ocd when it comes to defensive stats
chrome knot
literally why
misty helm
They have to be even for me for some reason
chrome knot
unless you have something to calc for
ok so then 4/244/4/0/4/252
so from the top
no switch ins, no tera, and stats have to be evens
misty helm
You see Koraidon naturally gets higher physical defense than special defense
That means I need to train the special defense to equilibrium
chrome knot
EVs: 136 Atk / 120 SpD / 252 Spe
nothing will die bc we lack attack but at least the defence stats are the same
misty helm
Could I afford to run lonely nature
chrome knot
WHY
bold geode
Lower the defense slightly so I have more control on offense
There's no reason to do this
misty helm
I’m actually serious about this
bold geode
Chat I need ibuprofen
bold geode
I’m actually serious about this
You just wanna run either Jolly or Adamant
Not running mixed attacker Koraidon so
misty helm
Do you think I need to rethink my strategy
bold geode
Brother idek what your strategy is besides use Flintstone bike
chrome knot
Chat I need ibuprofen
me except genuinely
bold geode
me except genuinely
Oh I actually got a headache too LMAO
chrome knot
for some reason poking myself today caused puking and large headache
thanks to estrogen i got to call outta closing tn lmfao
lofty tartan
I've got a migraine myself, but I have to go to my shift. I get them too much to call out 
chrome knot
i rarely get sick
misty helm
Are these stats really that bad
lofty tartan
I have three autoimmune diseases and take that immunosuppressive medication, so I tend to get sick.
bold geode
for some reason poking myself today caused puking and large headache
My dumbass thought you were just like poking your stomach with your finger or some shit
lofty tartan
Are these stats really that bad
What are we looking at here? I see level 100 totals and no context.
bold geode
sorry, i gave myself my estrogen injection today monke..
Nah
misty helm
What are we looking at here? I see level 100 totals and no context.
Yeah
bold geode
bold geode
That's cringe
bold geode
I'd take estrogen with Incineroar
chrome knot
what if me and incineroar took progesterone together
chrome knot
I'd take estrogen with Incineroar
WHAT
bold geode
what if me and incineroar took progesterone together
The fuck is that big word
misty helm
Yeah what? I still don't know what I'm looking at here from these stats.
My koraidon
lofty tartan
I take pills and they suck. 😐
chrome knot
The fuck is that big word
🏳️⚧️❓❓
lean ridge
Make it jolly
bold geode
I take pills and they suck. 😐
Same
lofty tartan
My koraidon
Koraidon doesn't have bad stats. What's the question.
chrome knot
I take pills and they suck. 😐
you take estrogen pills??????
lofty tartan
you take estrogen pills??????
I take methotrexate.
lofty tartan
It's awful stuff.
bold geode
Actually
More of the leg hair
Tired of that shit
chrome knot
Nah
I just want big chest ngl
And if it takes away my leg hair then
it doesnt
well boobs yes, hair removal no
bold geode
I've had this spot on my leg I've had to doctor for the past week and for the past week I've just been ripping leg hair off
lofty tartan
Nah
I just want big chest ngl
And if it takes away my leg hair then
Learned some fun stuff with pushups and bench flys that help pump up that chest.
I'm gonna need new shirts soon
bold geode
Learned some fun stuff with pushups and bench flys that help pump up that chest.
Yeah
BUT DID YOU WORKOUT YESTERDAY SIR
misty helm
Koraidon doesn't have bad stats. What's the question.
I’m wondering if my ocd-ness about defense stats would cause me to fall flat
chrome knot
i needa buy a bra soon
lofty tartan
Yeah
BUT DID YOU WORKOUT YESTERDAY SIR
I didn't. I am doing arms tomorrow morning and legs Friday morning.
chrome knot
im getting skill issued by the fact that they’re apparent now and it sucks
lofty tartan
I had more shit to take care of for my new job.
chrome knot
mikamikamikamikamika
all the expenses for naic are all gone now i paid for flight & bnb ^-^
lofty tartan
I’m wondering if my ocd-ness about defense stats would cause me to fall flat
What do you mean? I see he's speed-positive and defense-negative. Use an Adamant Mint
lofty tartan
all the expenses for naic are all gone now i paid for flight & bnb ^-^
That's awesome! 
bold geode
all the expenses for naic are all gone now i paid for flight & bnb ^-^
All that just to play Leech Seed
chrome knot
HEY
bold geode
LMAO
chrome knot
leech seed cir is so good…
bold geode
At this point I don't give a fuck, we got something in the builder
lofty tartan
leech seed cir is so good…
Celesteela
molten oasis
The new and improved Celesteela
bold geode
Arby's
misty helm
What do you mean? I see he's speed-positive and defense-negative. Use an Adaman...
And he’s got just enough special defense investment to make the defenses even
lofty tartan
Just give CIR some lefties
lofty tartan
And he’s got just enough special defense investment to make the defenses even
Well they're level 100 stats so they're not the same as level 50 stats for VGC.
bold geode
Can't wait to plant my (leech) seed in the competition
chrome knot
jesus LMFAO
molten oasis
Can't wait to plant my (leech) seed in the competition
bold geode
HEY VICTORY ROAD ESSENTIALLY DID THAT
misty helm
Well they're level 100 stats so they're not the same as level 50 stats for VGC.
Is there a way to show level 50 stats
molten oasis
That was almost worse than the TikTok pictures
lofty tartan
And he’s got just enough special defense investment to make the defenses even
Furthermore you should stop being bothered about odd vs even unless you're stat boosting to avoid remainders from falling off from rounding
bold geode
That was almost worse than the TikTok pictures
lofty tartan
Is there a way to show level 50 stats
Not in the game, no. Use Showdown for reference
molten oasis
Ok that one’s funny yk what I’m talking about monke
bold geode
chrome knot
CROP YO DAMN IMAGES
lofty tartan
Hey that's a photo of me where'd you get it
bold geode
Emma I got like 20 images at once from Tiktok comments, I ain't cropping all that
bold geode
Hey that's a photo of me where'd you get it
I planted cameras in an undisclosed location
bold geode
Wrong
No one talks about me
bold geode
misty helm
This look better?
chrome knot
@bold geode im learning well
misty helm
Okay is this a bad stat spread
lofty tartan
bold geode
<@817628066020065280> im learning well
LOL
It's like when the teacher moves to the next slide too quick
late harbor
chrome knot
LOL
It's like when the teacher moves to the next slide too quick
yeah and now grandma is showing their age
late harbor
https://pokepast.es/cce3f1143600f1f5
Need advice on what tera types to use and what mons to teach protect. And just advice in general.
balmy glen
yeah and now grandma is showing their age
Are u the grandma
molten oasis
Damn lmao
chrome knot
calling ME grandma is crazy
late harbor
Gammy show me those gummies
lofty tartan
Need advice on what tera types to use and what mons to teach protect. And just a...
Best advice is to use rentals and learn how they operate and why they are good. It will give you insight on move choices.
Off the surface, WP CIR is not good. Glowking is extremely outclassed in almost any meta beyond H. If you're struggling to decide who gets protect, then you should take more time to evaluate successful or synergistic teams.
You're also missing a second restricted.
late harbor
Best advice is to use rentals and learn how they operate and why they are good. ...
Yeah I know about the second restricted
I just don’t know what other good slow mon I can use
Also what is WP CIR?
lofty tartan
Weakness Policy Calyrex Ice Rider.
Weakness Policy had a ton more relevance in a dynamax format, which this is not.
Oh, almost forgot - heavy-duty boots is irrelevant in VGC.
This is for VGC right? If not and it's for singles, I apologize, but I don't know a lot about that and you should check BSS data on Munchstats.
lofty tartan
Okay yeah, ditch Terrain Extender, Weakness Policy, and Heavy-Duty Boots yesterday
lofty tartan
Also what other item should I use on Calyrex then?
Clear Amulet is pretty popular and relevant.
chrome knot
-# leftovers
lofty tartan
Lefties if you wanna do Leech Seed nonsense with CIR 
Terrain Extender isn't valuable in this format, expecially when you've got Rilla and Miraidon switching in on you for terrain dominance.
Extender isn't given enough space to matter.
And the games are usually pretty short.
late harbor
What item is good for Indeedee then?
It’s a support mon since it’s female
I saw that female was better for vgc
lofty tartan
Psychic Seed, Safety Goggles, stuff like that.
chrome knot
rocky helmet
lofty tartan
Rocky Helmet is good too
late harbor
It is? I thought Indeedee was squishy though?
lofty tartan
Indeedee-F is a better support over M because she has Follow Me and more bulk.
chrome knot
shes quite fat
late harbor
oh damn
late harbor
What should I replace with Galarian Slowking?
lofty tartan
Literally anything is better than him.
chrome knot
LOL
lofty tartan
But you can easily ditch him for a second Restricted.
lofty tartan
If you're trying to play HARD Trick Room with no fast mons to change it up against your opponent and disrupt their gameplan, then you can run something like Lunala
Not many Restricteds are super slow, but Lunala is slower than most other Restricteds anyway, so it plays fine in Trick Room.
You're trying to battle things like Calyrex-Shadow which have dominating speed stats - anything slower is slow compared to them.
heady onyx
ya im using trick room to deter people with fast teams
lofty tartan
Literally every single one of your sweepers have Swords Dance.
heady onyx
or Icy Wind depending
lofty tartan
That's WAY too much setup.
late harbor
Trueee
heady onyx
You need 1 sweeper
late harbor
I’m new to competitive
lofty tartan
You need 1 sweeper
Incorrect.
late harbor
I’ve never built a team lol
heady onyx
Incorrect.
You need 1 Pokemon to sweep a game
lofty tartan
I’ve never built a team lol
This is why I stress the importance of using rentals to get better at the game first. Teambuilding is an advanced skill that comes from experience and knowledge.
heady onyx
Not incorrect, unless you play balance and you play attrition I guess
Then you don't need a sweeper since you likely are chipping at them
lofty tartan
You need 1 Pokemon to sweep a game
Saying flat out "you need one sweeper" with zero context is confidently incorrect. So if you only have one sweeper and lose it, how do you win?
late harbor
This is why I stress the importance of using rentals to get better at the game f...
Yeah I just didn’t really want to tbh.
I wanted to use my own mons even if I struggle getting the hang of it
heady onyx
Saying flat out "you need one sweeper" with zero context is confidently incorrec...
You don't normally. If HO loses their aggression, they tend to lose the game. That goes for any game HO is a thing
lofty tartan
I understand what chip is. Relying on chip when your opponent is using 120bp spread moves is a silly overarching gameplan.
lofty tartan
Yeah I just didn’t really want to tbh.
This is gonna limit your ability to build a team. Some of the best players don't even build their own teams.
late harbor
This is gonna limit your ability to build a team. Some of the best players don'...
Yeah I’m just doing it for fun tbh.
I’m not expecting to be the best
lofty tartan
If you're wanting to use your own mons and your own teams, just understand that you will face some struggles, and it's a long learning experience.
heady onyx
You don't need to be the best player to build a team though, do not let them deter you from exploring teambuilding. It's very fun.
late harbor
If you're wanting to use your own mons and your own teams, just understand that ...
Yeah I’m aware
late harbor
You don't need to be the best player to build a team though, do not let them det...
Yeah this was my thoughts too
lofty tartan
Teambuilding is an advanced skill that comes from experience, game knowledge, and meta knowledge.
It's not something you stumble into.
heady onyx
The mentality that building a team is some sort of wizardry act is silly imo
Everyone has to begin somewhere and it's okay to do it for fun
lofty tartan
If you have zero knowledge of the meta and how VGC plays, you're not going to build a competent team.
Full stop.
heady onyx
The team doesn't have to be competent
heady onyx
Building competent teams makes no sense when they're a newcomer to the genre
If you always stop yourself from experimenting teambuilding because you are new...
You fear making mistakes basically
Which is silly since that's how you learn. Full stop.
lofty tartan
I'm not saying never build teams.
It's not a fear of making a mistake, it's literally learning how to play VGC, which is very different from the base games, and very different from Singles.
Honestly, you're giving bad advice, and you should stop.
heady onyx
You are giving some very bad advice imo, including to tell me to stop.
late harbor
Mika you should just chill tbh.
lofty tartan
Suggesting someone play rentals to get a feel for things is hardly bad advice, and is widely agreed upon amongst VGC players as a good way to get your feet wet and start understanding things instead of just jamming mons on a team.
late harbor
It’s really not that serious
lofty tartan
I'm chill. Telling someone to stop giving bad advice isn't being angry, it's being honest.
heady onyx
Pokemon is meant to be fun
lofty tartan
Y'all are sensitive.
heady onyx
Yet you get elitists gatekeeping the fun
late harbor
Seems like you care more than us though
lofty tartan
This is VGC dude. It's literally the official competitive format of pokemon.
late harbor
Okay and? I can build my team if I want
heady onyx
it being a competitive format doesn't mean you have to be an elitist
like you're just another player like all of us
lofty tartan
Wow. Okay, go build your team how you want, I was giving you advice because you asked. If you're gonna just turn around on that and hop on this guy's bad advice that's none of my concern.
I fully subscribe to playing to have fun, but you asked advice and were given it. If you don't want advice, don't ask lol
heady onyx
None of your concern yet you yap a lot for someone unconcerned then
lofty tartan
None of your concern yet you yap a lot for someone unconcerned then
Dude, seriously, you can back off. Now you're trying to get insulting.
late harbor
Wow. Okay, go build your team how you want, I was giving you advice because you...
I appreciate the advice on the team not how I should not build my own team
chrome knot
how is the comp chat so unserious today wtf
lofty tartan
I appreciate the advice on the team not how I should not build my own team
How can you give advice on someone's team without giving advice on how the team should be built?
heady onyx
Dude, seriously, you can back off. Now you're trying to get insulting.
you genuinely told me I was giving bad advice and to stop, you came at me in bad faith. Don't play the victim card ffs
lofty tartan
you genuinely told me I was giving bad advice and to stop, you came at me in bad...
Because you were. That's not insulting. It's a statement of fact.
lofty tartan
I'm not playing any victim card. The second you started acting like a jerk they changed their tune from "Thanks for the help" to "Yeah I can build my team however I want!"
heady onyx
If you're too deep into the format to a point where you treat is as a job, you oughta chill. We're all amateurs.
lofty tartan
Genuinely chill, it's a kid's game
Dude you don't know me. You don't know my demeanor. I'm not angry, I'm aghast at how inappropriate that behavior is.
lofty tartan
If you're too deep into the format to a point where you treat is as a job, you o...
Again, you don't know me lol
lofty tartan
Quit trying to high road me
Why are you saying I'm hostile? Can I not respond to the things you're saying?
heady onyx
You really are of a bad faith, I hope you don't treat your teambuilding the same way.
lofty tartan
I was trying to give advice now you two are tag-teaming me like it's the WWE
chrome knot
Genuinely chill, it's a kid's game
some of us travel for said “kids game” but yeah its just a casual thing n stuff
lofty tartan
You really are of a bad faith, I hope you don't treat your teambuilding the same...
Dude literally hop off lol
heady onyx
some of us travel for said “kids game” but yeah its just a casual thing n stuff
And they end up with a loss on money for the vast majority, earnings aren't there for the most parts let's be real
chrome knot
and what if i enjoy travelling to play and see my friends..?
heady onyx
Then it's fun !
chrome knot
going on vacation for a weekend to play pokemon and party sounds good to me
heady onyx
Thought you were referring about the official VGC events
lofty tartan
Dude emma this guy is literally just a contrarion, he's not worth our time.
lofty tartan
Yeah spending money to travel to compete is silly, Emma. Don't do it.
chrome knot
unlucky me idk too late
lofty tartan
The whole experience isn't enriching, and you should also not try to do well at Regionals because that's also silly.
chrome knot
do NAWT have hobbies. @lofty tartan
late harbor
Okay I started a fight and I apologize please let’s just stop
lofty tartan
do NAWT have hobbies. <@294245776060579842>
Yeah man
heady onyx
don't apologize for elitists gatekeeping your fun
chrome knot
you’re actually banned and if you say hi to me in Toronto next season i will teleport you back home
lofty tartan
Okay I started a fight and I apologize please let’s just stop
I already blocked Barbossa. Now I'm just talking to Emma.
chrome knot
lofty tartan
Anyway Emma. Why are you gonna run Leech Seed CIR again?
molten oasis
It’s broken
lofty tartan
I wouldn't say broken lol
molten oasis
Nah it’s broken 
late harbor
I already blocked Barbossa. Now I'm just talking to Emma.
I respect your opinions and thanks again for the advice
gentle cragBOT
I respect your opinions and thanks again for the advice
jmoneygamer has given 1 Gen Rep to dazedmika
late harbor
I’m not expecting to be good or anything
molten oasis
/jk, I don’t generally think that but I do think it’s really strong
late harbor
I just wanna do it for fun
chrome knot
Anyway Emma. Why are you gonna run Leech Seed CIR again?
its rly strong rn
the stuff that beat cir mirai cant rly keep up with a stall variant
lofty tartan
I respect your opinions and thanks again for the advice
After that behavior, next time I don't think I'll be giving you advice. I was trying to help you, and you spun around and acted like I was an enemy. I don't think that's appropriate to do to someone trying to help you.
late harbor
After that behavior, next time I don't think I'll be giving you advice. I was t...
Alright don’t really care
lofty tartan
molten oasis
lol
late harbor
That’s how I feel lol
chrome knot
so i think its a strong candidate to consider for naic
molten oasis
Is NAIC the next tournament in America?
lofty tartan
Okay, Emma. I mean I can draw the line to Celesteela
chrome knot
but i also am coaching victoria ly while she preps psyspam so im everywhere at once rn lmfao
chrome knot
Is NAIC the next tournament in America?
portland is this weekend
molten oasis
Oh ok
lofty tartan
but i also am coaching victoria ly while she preps psyspam so im everywhere at o...
Psyspam? In this economy?
chrome knot
we’ve been kinda cooking ladder
molten oasis
Lunala psyspam with koraidon is pretty cool
molten oasis
You were all over Delphox in reg h
lofty tartan
Yeah but Reg H had a really low amount of Wide Guard and no horses slinging Lance/Barrage
molten oasis
That’s also true
lofty tartan
I've been known to fuck around with Crown Psyspam though
chrome knot
Neat. That's pretty cool.
its funny asf tbh, we’ve settled on some underused restricteds that are actually cooking rn
molten oasis
Yea, crown psyspam was pretty cool
chrome knot
seeing her succeed with it is cool asf
molten oasis
Bulky ass duo
lofty tartan
But I haven't been playing as much because I'm still writing this mod for Baldur's Gate 3. It's a huge task.
lofty tartan
It works. It's sick as hell.
I taught myself some coding in a week and got neck-deep
molten oasis
I need to play that at somepoint. Just haven’t wanted to spend $60 or however much is it on it
chrome knot
I taught myself some coding in a week and got neck-deep
me asf with old gen rng manip
lofty tartan
I need to play that at somepoint. Just haven’t wanted to spend $60 or however mu...
It's a very, very good game. There's hundreds of hours of playtime in that 60 bucks
molten oasis
I know
chrome knot
i picked up such a gross hyperfixation
molten oasis
Do tell 
molten oasis
It's a very, very good game. There's hundreds of hours of playtime in that 60 b...
Gotta finish expedition 33 first, then I wanna check out doom then I’ll look into it
lofty tartan
Gotta finish expedition 33 first, then I wanna check out doom then I’ll look int...
Dooms been having massive performance issues
molten oasis
Console
I don’t play pc, idt console’s had the same issues
At least not that I’ve heard of
lofty tartan
They're having issues with some frame drops/stuttering, input lag, blurry textures
molten oasis
Ah
lofty tartan
Like there's even an article here "Doom: the Dark Ages Seems to be Having Trouble on PS5 Pro"
But there's much more issues with PC. Absolutely.
molten oasis
Why can’t AAA games come out polished lmao
lofty tartan
They did not optimize well.
Well honestly optimization is hard.
Some people run a potato for a computer. Some people are like me.
There's so many different pieces of hardware that it's impossible to account for all of them
It's why phones routinely get phased out in mobile games. They get rid of support for those devices so they can focus more on supported devices
molten oasis
That’s fair
lofty tartan
Early stage of a custom spell I made
It looks much better now
@chrome knot
I got some animation and texture assets from another modder and updated the spell since then. Took me awhile to get all the moving pieces correct
chrome knot
woaaa
lofty tartan
That's like a level 5 version of the spell - it upgrades to 8 targets by level cap
bold geode
Is NAIC the next tournament in America?
Portland this weekend
chrome knot
Portland this weekend
only for people who waste their money on it tho
near crag
How good is 1500 in showdown? Like, is it plain mid, or is it already high(ish) ladder?
exotic grotto
Portland this weekend
Is Portland in America?
near crag
oregon
exotic grotto
Thank you!
near crag
Btw, just noticed scarf quark drive iron bundle ouspeeds timid shadow rider with tailwind
bold geode
Finally
After 2 hours of interruptions
Script done
molten oasis
Zac korai has been working pretty well
Like I think a lot of my losses are me not the team
It’s also pretty fun
bold geode
4.9k+ words
26.8k+ characters
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/5912302615ffe841 fun and feels good
Only thing that feels rough to get through is Tera fire CIR tr
Notably if I can’t taunt the tr setter
chrome knot
@bold geode thoughts?
bold geode
<@817628066020065280> thoughts?
Sorry I gotta comprehend
We using Dawn Wings
And Ape
Wait if it's Hard TR Psyspam, why not Lunala?
chrome knot
tbf ndw is more spatk + less spe
bold geode
dense latch
https://x.com/Normalssbbbx/status/1925343732821528917?t=gkOffhcDKEZam2f4LCGM7A&s...
heard the cutoff was 7 or 8
should be fine
bold geode
tbf ndw is more spatk + less spe
Oh I didn't know that
Makes a bit of sense then at least
foggy lodge
X
molten oasis
80 turns later
left bobcat
Disable encore
chrome knot
molten oasis
At this point the only thing holding me back from doing that is that I’d be going up completely by myself
red willow
Is terapagos not usually used with a psych up user?
chrome knot
@bold geode coach ms emma was a success ^-^
she made finals of her local :3 (she lost to a triple protect LOL)
bold geode
<@817628066020065280> coach ms emma was a success ^-^
Cool shit
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.2
lofty tartan
Like low-key I feel like Shadow Shield better than Prism Armor
Low-key? It's clearly superior. Like plain to see leagues better
Cmon Monke
molten oasis
why are hotels so expensive for 1 person lol
chrome knot
bc ur not able to split between people & eating all the costs yourself
molten oasis
ah ic
chrome knot
ngl i have a bnb split by 9 friends to make it cheaper😵💫
molten oasis
i dont have any friends
im only looking in the case i actually get in lol
or go in the first place
damn my hotel options all require me to walk for a mile to get to the center, could be worse ig
in theory tho i could get fully set up for $600 lol
which isnt, that bad
astral kelp
wait
holy shit the entretainment liligant
isnt solar power charizard just kinda worse chi yu nowadays
i like the idea of coaching i gotta try that
south shuttle
It's not really that great and it's only use is really to block priority moves w...
I will stand by weird lip fish
astral kelp
252 SpA Solar Power Charizard Heat Wave vs. 252 HP / 156 SpD Calyrex-Ice Rider in Sun: 174-206 (84 - 99.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Beads of Ruin Chi-Yu Heat Wave vs. 252 HP / 156 SpD Calyrex-Ice Rider in Sun: 176-210 (85 - 101.4%) -- 6.25% chance to OHKO yeahhh
chiyu has way better typing too
and better defensive stats huh wtf
astral kelp
lets try ability shield miraidon lmao
shadow wind
Why not Koraidon?
One of the main reasons people used Koraidon was because no intimidate
astral kelp
the idea is weezing gives infinite terrain control unless they are running chien pao or something
i dont realy like that mirai set if im gonna be real tbh
shadow wind
But Koraidon gets infinite weather control?
That's not a pro that only Miraidon gets from weezing is my point
astral kelp
mostly because i feel like koraidon with no lorb is kinda ehhh
and miraidon is just so fucking broken always
but yeah idk im just trying it for fun lol
so far out of all the teams ive been making this one is feeling pretty okay
viral spindle
A great option for a Weezing team is Toedscruel since it’d become the fastest Spore Pokemon in the game
Although with you building it around a sort of trick room mode it wouldn’t work too well
astral kelp
A great option for a Weezing team is Toedscruel since it’d become the fastest Sp...
that was like reg H 100 speed is not fast enough in reg i :(
shadow wind
Choice scarf
astral kelp
if you want fast sleep you prolly wanna do some chlorophill hypnosis stuff
i mean sleep powder
but also too much miraidon lol
viral spindle
Does anyone here have any experience with Little Cup?
viral spindle
if you want fast sleep you prolly wanna do some chlorophill hypnosis stuff
I prefer Compound Eye Sleeping Powder since it brings the miss rate down to 1 in 40
astral kelp
do you really want to use vivillon lmao
astral kelp
Venonat with Eviolite is also an option
💀
astral kelp
lol i respect it
viral spindle
Plus in Little Cup it’s pretty much my all time favorite support
Redirection with Sleep is over powered
Plus it’s the fastest Sleeping Powder/Spore Pokemon in Little Cup besides Toedscool or Hoppip which are both at disadvantage because of ability or chances of missing
viral spindle
Well I obviously have to wait till it’s Venonat’s time to shine in the big leagues
wanton blade
hey everyone! i’m finally deciding to get into the vgc scene, but i have no idea where to start. i know the basics of battling bc ive played draft before, but vgc feels like a whole other language. on top of that, im also just looking for friends who enjoy the game and being part of a community! any tips or thoughts would be appreciated!
astral kelp
i just lost to a smeargle x2 speed boost into max sleep turns and astral barrage crit
does he know
i dont think he did
mighty stump
hey everyone! i’m finally deciding to get into the vgc scene, but i have no idea...
We have tons of resources in the pins. Definitely have an idea of the basics and of the metagame. A point of exposure is to look at recent VODs of the regionals that just took place
For playing, utilise established teams so you can focus mainly on your play and skills
Teambuilding comes with a lot of playing and understanding
chrome knot
@mighty stump is there somewhere i can find old regional results in bulk? trying to find streamed games of celesteela
chrome knot
nvm i found playlists of the entirety of VGC2017
solid frigate
im slightly interested on why Celesteela
chrome knot
leech seed cirs ancestor
lofty tartan
For playing, utilise established teams so you can focus mainly on your play and ...
Lol I told someone that earlier and got tag teamed for it
astral kelp
Lol when I was starting I got told to do that but I like refused
I retrospect it definitevly wouldve made learning how vgc works muuuch easier
molten oasis
Funny you pinged him about it and he thinks it’s dogshit lol
chrome knot
Lol I told someone that earlier and got tag teamed for it <:arkeknine:6695004327...
that was real funny tbh
lofty tartan
Now to work a little bit on this mod before I have to play phone tag 😐
solid frigate
leech seed cirs ancestor
ah ok
mighty stump
leech seed cirs ancestor
Leech Seed Celesteela good mon
solid frigate
the defensive typing helps on it
chrome knot
yeah and then miraidon jr steps in
molten oasis
I tried Kyurem white, yeah that Mon sucks lol
sharp cobalt
Lol when I was starting I got told to do that but I like refused
I retrospect it...
Mood
solid frigate
I tried Kyurem white, yeah that Mon sucks lol
i mean its way more selfish than Pagos
molten oasis
it needs way too much to work
solid frigate
Pagos can support some restricteds with Tera
But Kyurem white needs snow+Tailwind
and does nothing to support them
lofty tartan
I tried Kyurem white, yeah that Mon sucks lol
molten oasis
lmao
solid frigate
https://tenor.com/view/shock-throw-up-laugh-gif-5391921346968738339
yeah you literally talked about that when i mentioned KW to you lmao
anyways
Back to Kyogre
lofty tartan
I mean you can just ignore the snow thing
It doesn't need it. It has 170 special attack
Just blast things
Ngl I liked the idea of running it with Zekrom
Come to the dark side of Lunala/HoOh
solid frigate
Ngl I liked the idea of running it with Zekrom
i wish Lyco was here lmao
lofty tartan
Like Zekrom with tailwind, Tera fire life Orb Kyurem white, fusion bolt and fusion flare. It's cool
solid frigate
Like Zekrom with tailwind, Tera fire life Orb Kyurem white, fusion bolt and fusi...
i remember the Double res Server Prep group literally has a channel for Zekrom and reshiram and named it
Zekrom gets tailwind
Reshiram also gets tailwind
lofty tartan
Lmao
solid frigate
Lmao
but still the synergy i can see it but is it worth it
does the fusion moves has the activates whenever one attacked first like the pledge move does
chrome knot
@lofty tartan how does this make u feel :3
molten oasis
that poor iron hands
near crag
Y'all think palkia/dialga have any place in this meta? Recon they won't be getting day 2 at the next events, but still
lofty tartan
<@294245776060579842> how does this make u feel :3
Looks like a job for your friendly neighborhood Landorus 👀
Oh I see what you're asking me
chrome knot
lofty tartan
Ahhhhhhhh lololol
ashen briar
<@294245776060579842> how does this make u feel :3
Special bulk qwark drive is a new one
What was buddy doing😭
chrome knot
attack stat was low enough that spdef passed it
molten oasis
bro got traumatized by boyt
foggy lodge
I've never lost against it
But like idk its so bullshit lmao
This weekend is portlaaaaand
Let's see if there's an actual innovation now
molten oasis
unlikely /jk
foggy lodge
I think NA tends to innovate more
solid frigate
<@294245776060579842> how does this make u feel :3
LMAO
chrome knot
I just don’t know why he’d do that
...because I dropped his attack twice & burnt him perhaps 
ashen briar
Oh I didn’t know you could interfere with quark drive like that
chrome knot
miraidon came in late so it applies to what stat is the highest @ the time of activation
ashen briar
Interesting
bold geode
Let's see if there's an actual innovation now
Bro's already bored
Tiktok ass brain
chrome knot
monke :D
astral kelp
I tried Kyurem white, yeah that Mon sucks lol
its a beast sometimes
chrome knot
i have a team i like ^-^
molten oasis
its fun its just hella inconsisntent
astral kelp
yeah you really need that weather control
ive been like trying gravity kyurem a bit but its just not that good lol
ice dragon is bad but it honestly could be worse
bold geode
i have a team i like ^-^
Nice
bold geode
its fun its just hella inconsisntent
molten oasis
bruh lmao
astral kelp
I LOVE LEECH SEED
bold geode
i click leech seed and things die
spiral ridge
Emma stinky very known
chrome knot
wtf…
south shuttle
what do you think the best item is on calyrex ice rider?
I'm currently running clear amulet
chrome knot
leftovers
spiral ridge
If not leech seed clam or never melt ice
south shuttle
If not leech seed clam or never melt ice
yeah clam is working pretty well right now
ursaluna im running silk scarf
spiral ridge
Wh
chrome knot
o hell no
south shuttle
peak trust