#competitive_discussion

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molten oasis
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I wanna know why he’s running kingambit

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The guy who won, that’s a very unorthodox team

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Also seeem the zacogre people like amoonguss a lot

lean ridge
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the pikachu is wild 😭

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i wonder what the set was

atomic mural
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light ball

lean ridge
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yea probably, also good for countering mirai with lightning rod

rustic mountain
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damn really? i feel like i bring grimm to so many games but different team

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screens are really nice depending on comp

molten oasis
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I kinda suck at playing screens lol

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I prefer fake out or follow me stuff, and incin was kinda doing a lot of the physical deterrent stuff

rustic mountain
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im getting used to it again myself tbh since i usually dont but grimms solid man

molten oasis
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While ogre just clicks CM for the special side

molten oasis
rustic mountain
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gta actually use it to understand it more

molten oasis
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Plus I’m liking this better so far

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Moons a Mon I’m very comfortable with

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I did do screens with Mirai Zac for a bit

rustic mountain
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im using av mirai rn w/ electric seed lunala, screens benefits them immensely

molten oasis
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I was better at utilizing Grimm here

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This team was hella flawed tho lol

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And I was playing this before normal Ursa got popular

molten oasis
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That teams so strong

rustic mountain
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yea

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tangs are such good teambuilders man

molten oasis
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Absolutely

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I honestly was against playing ogre for a while then looked at that team and kinda thought “yk ogres not terrible into this team” and went back to Zacogre

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It’s still not an easy game but ogre does a lot if Mirai is dealt with, and I nerf the Ursa with incin pivot stuff

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I’ve also adjusted to using incin, I appreciate the Mon a lot more now

rustic mountain
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incin the goat

rustic mountain
# molten oasis It’s still not an easy game but ogre does a lot if Mirai is dealt with, and I ne...

or u just die slowly behind the opponents screens and the war of attrition like this game ( not kyogre but still)
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2362681785-v20xdps6fw0hm0loec49br1r3wlp5uspw

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excuse the elo, been testing a bunch of different teams and adjusting to different comps peepoglad

molten oasis
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I’m doing a fresh account with PASRS rn it’s fine lol

molten oasis
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Or at least stopping one of the screens

rustic mountain
rustic mountain
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its tricky

molten oasis
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Tricky mu no matter what

rustic mountain
molten oasis
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Although I lead the same thing everytime, incin lando is really good pressure on lead

rustic mountain
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really has been my biggest issue is figuring out wen to bring what

bold geode
rustic mountain
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idk bout countered

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but idk bout arubega

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prolly somewhere in between

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ppl will adapt but some iteration of the team will survive as the meta evolves

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pretty early still for stuff to be the call like that imo

bold geode
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Right
I figured it'd be like that but yeah like
There's not much of a weakness to exploit here

rustic mountain
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even worlds we had time for the format to develop b4 we got arubega

molten oasis
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I feel like someone will find a mu that’s really good into this team

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But it’s, not gonna be easy at all

bold geode
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Tbf Arubega was like
It was near the completion the whole fucking format

rustic mountain
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the teams really good

bold geode
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Just someone finally found the right 2 mons with it

rustic mountain
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still

rustic mountain
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very

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gta build it in game and put my shiny lunala to use gladge

forest arrow
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Yessss

bold geode
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Wait ayo wtf

forest arrow
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When they gonna give us our shiny bikes

rustic mountain
rustic mountain
bold geode
rustic mountain
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shiny ruins, give us something

forest arrow
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Just do the GameStop event already, we’re begging you

bold geode
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They're probably gonna pick some shitty player

rustic mountain
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i really thought last holiday like nov/dec wed get it

rustic mountain
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ty

molten oasis
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I did not wanna ping you for that oh well lmao

rustic mountain
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well u did and look where we are

forest arrow
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lol

molten oasis
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True

rustic mountain
molten oasis
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lol

bold geode
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Nah Tree
Imagine they trade the pick for like the last draft pick KekHands

molten oasis
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I gotta put the stuff I have ingame, I haven’t played it much but I think av will be nice

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The team doesn’t like shifu and having thunder kyogre does a lot for that

rustic mountain
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idk if flagg is gna be that good but he doesnt seem like major bust either

molten oasis
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I’m curious what the next regional will bring

rustic mountain
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wen is the next 1

bold geode
bold geode
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Plz don't fuck this up Mavs

forest arrow
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This weekend I believe there is 3 going on

bold geode
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Is there anyone else besides Cooper Flag?

forest arrow
rustic mountain
gentle cragBOT
rustic mountain
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man wat

bold geode
forest arrow
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Yeah I’m pretty sure there is 3 regionals going on

rustic mountain
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oh ok

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yeeesh wtf lol

bold geode
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If they fumble the bag I'm changing teams fuck this

rustic mountain
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u should

molten oasis
bold geode
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Like Spurs iirc got 2nd and 14th pick, I'm going there maybe

molten oasis
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(It doesn’t take that long)

rustic mountain
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like luka was a dumb decision 100%, but neither team did well this year shrug until 1 wins a chip u cant say the either messed up

molten oasis
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If I wanna compete more in the future I need to play cart more anyway

rustic mountain
forest arrow
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Yeah i definitely need to play more cart too

bold geode
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But it's gonna have to be without Bron

molten oasis
rustic mountain
bold geode
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LMAO

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"Lemme listen to my LeBron glaze album in peace"

forest arrow
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You can farm money at Ace tourney with Kyu W

rustic mountain
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they wasted so many good years of lebron nd u gna have the nerve to say they can do it w/o him?

rustic mountain
bold geode
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But yeah I'm sorry
Idk if Bron ever wins a ring again

molten oasis
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Or I can just

rustic mountain
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bron of old wouldve farmed this era

forest arrow
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It takes a little longer without amulet coin but it works

molten oasis
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Ev train manually and spend 2 hours on it

forest arrow
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I let it run sometimes when I go to work

bold geode
molten oasis
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And my evs for most of my mons only need slight adjustments

bold geode
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He got Reaves, give him another guy and we good

molten oasis
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Except ogre, I have to get and train an ogre

rustic mountain
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lakers do not rn

bold geode
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Yeah
They could build around Luka for sure

molten oasis
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Yo anyone got a spare shiny kyogre Wolfe_Hello

rustic mountain
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that trade at the deadline that szn really propelled them w/ pj washington/lively/gafford

forest arrow
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I can’t tell yall how many Dmax raids I’ve done for Lunala

bold geode
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Oh yeah getting Gafford and PJ was gas ngl

rustic mountain
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i got lunala pretty quickly fortunately

rustic mountain
forest arrow
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I still don’t have mine and I’ve been at it for about 2 months now

rustic mountain
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but he rounded out the team to support the deficiences of luka

forest arrow
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not consistently but still a drag

bold geode
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Yeah cuz they had fucking Grant Williams

rustic mountain
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lakers dont have that for luka rn

spiral ridge
molten oasis
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I have to grind the dex for the charm

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Which I’m just not in the mood for

bold geode
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Grant Williams was a bum

forest arrow
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Damn I’m in for the long haul tho, Lunala is one of my most fav shinies out there

molten oasis
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Damn no one got a spare shiny kyogre AAAAA

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I’ll do the grind, probably after finishing expedition 33

lean ridge
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got my lunala today WobbuParty

rustic mountain
spiral ridge
rustic mountain
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gl dude

spiral ridge
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It has shadow ball and resists fairy

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It took me so fucking long

forest arrow
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I’ll def try flareon

lean ridge
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if u can find a path with bisharp its really strong too, it takes the max starfall pretty well and deals like 25% per attack

bold geode
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HE'S A GUARD

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Fuck it I'll take him

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Come to Papa

dense latch
molten oasis
rustic mountain
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nah hes like a sf/pf hybrid idt hes gna be as bad as bennett turned out to be

dense latch
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i’m glad flagg’s not gonna be stuck in a poverty franchise for the first years of his career

gentle cragBOT
rustic mountain
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its no guarantee but

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he had a good szn nd tourney in a tough conference

molten oasis
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MDB is playing Zacogre

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Looks neat

rustic mountain
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u wont play it tho

molten oasis
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If he sends out a paste

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I like my stuff rn tho so idt ill stick with it

bold geode
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Oh
@spiral ridge I forgot to tell ya
My store has the Ashton Hall water

spiral ridge
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Lmfaoo

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I’ll bring the banana peel

bold geode
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Let's do this KekCry

spiral ridge
bold geode
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I can say thank you a lot for sure

spiral ridge
bold geode
spiral ridge
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:3

red willow
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I thought the legendaries from snacksworth were shiny locked?

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Oh theres a raid for lunala? Mb

forest arrow
keen pine
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Any1 kno how I get pain split on a Cofagrigus in swsh

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Reset the game an I forgot how to do stuff. It’s been a few years

rustic mountain
molten oasis
rustic mountain
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like not shiny

molten oasis
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I can play it and try it out and not make it my main team lol

rustic mountain
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ofc

molten oasis
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Or do you just want me to stop making teams minionstare

rustic mountain
molten oasis
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Oww lol

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Ok for that team comp I see why like, what do you do into Mirai Lunala lol

rustic mountain
molten oasis
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Pray for crits ig

rustic mountain
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they had tera blast ghost for lunala peepoglad

molten oasis
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Scarf ogre?

rustic mountain
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man u didnt even watch the game

molten oasis
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What i totally did minionstare

rustic mountain
molten oasis
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I’ll watch it

rustic mountain
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ull get a kick out of it

molten oasis
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Fucking moron target the shifu

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Why did you go for Grimm lol

rustic mountain
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they also protected infront of an urshifu

molten oasis
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Just pray for miss that position sucked for him

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Yea that was hard to watch play my dog better

rustic mountain
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haha yea

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i didnt play too well either

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i was expecting fake out grimm t1 so i just threw reflect up prolly shouldve done light screen, i jus did not expect tera blast ghost lando

molten oasis
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You played better lol

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Also yea that tech is

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A tech of all time

rustic mountain
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nd then like targetting wise prolly should hit zacian over lando i just called the switch wrong

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i assumed theyd prefer switching zacian out but some ppl even if its the right play dont wanna lose boosts

molten oasis
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Yea I tend to do that

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I usually can call when

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But I don’t wanna lose the boost if I don’t have to

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A problem I have fs

rustic mountain
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if i do the same play there

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of double t wave and surging zacian and they protect

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they lose zacian for nothing

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losing the boost is worth it to potential have better positioning in the end game

molten oasis
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Yea

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And like, wood hammer the Grimmsnarl

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Or shifu, idk if it would have killed the shifu

rustic mountain
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they were too u turn happy

molten oasis
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Yep

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‘Need to pivot so miraidon doesn’t get terrain’ loses the war anyway

rustic mountain
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right lmao

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def getting more comfortable w/ the team

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tho still notcing a lot of misplays

molten oasis
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You’ll figure it out

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A good player with that team like, legit should rarely lose that team is insane

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There were 3 in top 4 I think

forest arrow
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Tera ghost blast Lando

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Justin was the only one to not day 2 with it

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I believe he went 5-3

molten oasis
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Yea

forest arrow
molten oasis
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That fucking bird that I hate

sudden berry
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Hey guys im brand new to the server. Does anyone in here play battle stadium singles or is this chat only vgc focused?

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I'm working on building a team right now and I don't really know what direction to take it

rustic mountain
rustic mountain
rustic mountain
woven pelican
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pops in
Oh why hello

molten oasis
rustic mountain
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ik

molten oasis
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i do like nuking it with cornerstone tho

sudden berry
rustic mountain
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id recommend the smogon server

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even if more niche theres a passionate community for it

sudden berry
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Alright I will check em out. Thanks man

rustic mountain
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np best of luck

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-8ball build lunala/mirai tn?

gentle cragBOT
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build lunala/mirai tn?
:8ball: You may rely on it

rustic mountain
bold geode
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-8ball is Solgaleo kinda the goat

gentle cragBOT
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is Solgaleo kinda the goat
:8ball: Outlook not so good

bold geode
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Damn GengarSad

molten oasis
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-8ball is my current team worth building

gentle cragBOT
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is my current team worth building
:8ball: You may rely on it

molten oasis
rustic mountain
rustic mountain
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jkjk kekwdisco

molten oasis
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bruh

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-8ball would it be better to build zac mirai?

gentle cragBOT
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would it be better to build zac mirai?
:8ball: Don't count on it

molten oasis
rustic mountain
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-8ball do you lie?

gentle cragBOT
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do you lie?
:8ball: Outlook good

rustic mountain
molten oasis
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-8ball we're you lying to me

gentle cragBOT
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we're you lying to me
:8ball: Very doubtful

molten oasis
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-8ball did you lie about that

gentle cragBOT
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did you lie about that
:8ball: Ask again later

molten oasis
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mf

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-8ball did you lie about you lying to me

gentle cragBOT
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did you lie about you lying to me
:8ball: Cannot predict now

molten oasis
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-8ball answer my question

gentle cragBOT
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answer my question
:8ball: Concentrate and ask again

rustic mountain
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lmao

molten oasis
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-8ball DID YOU LIE ABOUT YOU LYING TO ME

gentle cragBOT
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DID YOU LIE ABOUT YOU LYING TO ME
:8ball: Ask again later

molten oasis
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ffs lmao

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-8ball did you lie to me

gentle cragBOT
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did you lie to me
:8ball: My sources say no

molten oasis
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-8ball so, build my zacogre team ingame?

gentle cragBOT
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so, build my zacogre team ingame?
:8ball: My sources say no

molten oasis
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-8ball okay so build zacmirai?

gentle cragBOT
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okay so build zacmirai?
:8ball: Ask again later

molten oasis
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-8ball should i build zacmirai

gentle cragBOT
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should i build zacmirai
:8ball: Signs point to yes

molten oasis
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damn

rustic mountain
foggy lodge
molten oasis
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-8ball does zac pao mirai cook?

gentle cragBOT
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does zac pao mirai cook?
:8ball: It is certain

molten oasis
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-8ball does that cook

gentle cragBOT
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does that cook
:8ball: As I see it, yes

chrome knot
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trettreeetreeerree

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i caught a 0atk shiny kyogre in heartgold for naic :3

molten oasis
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nice

rustic mountain
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grats thats awesome

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i just transferred my shiny lunala onto my sv profile pepemostacho

rustic mountain
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just went 3-1 on cart w/ zama/csr Susbusiness

molten oasis
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very nice

rustic mountain
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at 791 rn, still got it w/ that core pepemostacho

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wanna move onto something new tho hence mirai/lunala

bold geode
rustic mountain
cyan smelt
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why does everything seem to be countering my team today

chrome knot
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well what are you playing

cyan smelt
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korai lunala

spiral ridge
left bobcat
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ZAZAZOINKS

sharp cobalt
cyan smelt
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this team sucks like all my other teams

old pumice
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Does anyone have any tips for Competitive they could give me, I'm fairly new and any help would be appreciated?

solid frigate
old pumice
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Okay thank you

cyan smelt
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man i'm terrible at vgc

old pumice
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How so?

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I doubt you are that bad

cyan smelt
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nothing i try this reg works

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i keep losing

old pumice
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This is only my 2nd regulation ever but I preferred the 1 legendary by far

cyan smelt
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i'm really struggling

knotty mirage
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This sucks i thought i can finally push on BSS this reg but it just ho-oh stall everywhere SadMimi

old pumice
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BSS? What's that?

old pumice
knotty mirage
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Battle stadium single

old pumice
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Ohh

knotty mirage
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I already reach master rank on double so i guess it's worth a shoot to also reach master rank on bss but yeah

old pumice
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Nice congrats

knotty mirage
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It's painful and the mind games is more brutal

old pumice
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Best I've gotten was great ball rank 8 and lost my rank up game 😔

unreal bridge
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Whats the best possible 6/6 team with atleasst koraidon, miradon and ogerpon in it, who should be the last 3?

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Ogerpon with firemask

bold geode
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Idk but I'd probably slap a Flutter on there

forest arrow
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Flutter for sure

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Hands Farig works too

cyan smelt
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thinking bout just switching to the regional team because every team i build sucks

forest arrow
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What’s your koala team look like

cyan smelt
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i was using the top 3 bo3 one with glimmora instead of brute bonnet but i might just switch back to the bo3 one

forest arrow
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The bonnet team is nice

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I’m still on Amoongus

cyan smelt
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the regional team seems impossible to play against though

forest arrow
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Just need ways to shut it down, but yes it’s a great team

cyan smelt
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basically can't stop it setting screens

forest arrow
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Taunt flutter/incin, adamant korai

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just a few changes I’ve made that help a little bit

cyan smelt
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i hadn't thought of taunt flutter

forest arrow
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Fast taunt is nice

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And you have Lunala so you can afford to drop shadow ball

cyan smelt
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the lunala always teras though and it's really annoying to take down

forest arrow
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Does your team have Ursaluna

cyan smelt
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the bo3 team that i was using before does not have ursa

forest arrow
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I usually just try to outpace

cyan smelt
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i'm ass at this game

solid frigate
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i forgot i have Urshifu

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cuz i did not bring Lando

cyan smelt
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Of course the psych up caly flamigo guy rejects ots

solid frigate
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the two Genies and Urshifu

cyan smelt
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They should have accepted ots because they tried to fake out a covert cloak tornadus twice

solid frigate
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i'm not suprised they lost

bold geode
solid frigate
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if the lead is Muk Smeragle my genies can beat it

cyan smelt
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Ig you lead torn then switch in miraidon to prevent spore?

solid frigate
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Torn is a flying type

lost sun
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this guy has set up trick room and his csr still moves before my lunala how

lost sun
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oh yh forgot about that

bold geode
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What speed is your Lunala at

lost sun
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4 ev

bold geode
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Depends on spreads tbh

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Oh yeah no you easily outspeed it in TW

lost sun
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wish I could tw twice to cancel it out like tr

solid frigate
abstract grail
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Hello everyone, I was hoping to get alittle advice. Im trying to get into reg I, wich jumping right into it' alittle tricky. That said I had a an idea for a koraidon+lunala team, but im unsure if adding indedee f for Psychic terrain and trick room is worth it to add here, or if I should focus on something else.

next stump
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Indeedee is a great addition for the team

solid frigate
abstract grail
molten oasis
sharp cobalt
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Hehe, Wolfeglick gets an Incin distribution

craggy dagger
bold geode
solid frigate
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Orange Cran

strange fjord
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i usually dont judge teams but come on bruh

chrome knot
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which side we talkin here 😭

strange fjord
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hey, im not the one running dozoguri with weezing csr

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shame they didnt run a cooler set for regirock

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it was just explosion endure tatsu

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with costar dozo in the back

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and i just used haze

molten oasis
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Eww ho-oh

bold geode
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CSR DozoGiri go brr

forest arrow
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Ho oh is cool

solid frigate
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you are getting cooked no matter what

foggy lodge
solid frigate
atomic mural
bold geode
shadow wind
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Flying fire lowkey a great type

bold geode
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I mean it honestly really has its negatives but the meta just really couldn't handle it as well as you'd think

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Idk why I didn't see Mirai Ho Oh though
Fought it once (though the Ho Oh set was wack so I didn't think much of it)
But it just makes sense

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And it's hella strong

lofty tartan
bold geode
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Yeah who ya think I'm using now Wolfe_Hello

lone mural
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Hey so Uhm. Question. Do regionals let you bring in resources to help you in game like a little self made write-up of matchups and gameplans and stuff like that

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I'm thinking of just printing some shit into a notebook for regionals just to help in the moment

solid frigate
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you can bring notebooks but usually i just remember the Matchup by head

lone mural
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Could I have that stuff in the notebook would they disallow that

bold geode
lone mural
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Yippee

bold geode
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I know you can bring notebooks for sure

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Idt they're like
Checking the contents of the notebook

lone mural
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Yea I've seen that but I'm not sure if there's limitations on what the contents could be

craggy dagger
bold geode
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Well you're wanting to write MUs and lines down which doesn't really go against the rules imo

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If so then practicing for events would be banned

solid frigate
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i just go in blind lmao

fossil zenith
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Soo I've been trying to find the Metagross thing can someone send me the ping for that

solid frigate
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Metagross is ummm

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wait you mean the tera Raid?

shadow wind
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But where is the Zekrom

solid frigate
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252+ SpA Protosynthesis Raging Bolt Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Urshifu-Rapid-Strike through Light Screen: 171-202 (97.1 - 114.7%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO

hmmm.

foggy lodge
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That's fake btw lol

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252+ SpA Protosynthesis Raging Bolt Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Urshifu-Rapid-Strike through Light Screen: 228-269 (129.5 - 152.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO

solid frigate
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i used the wrong calculator

shadow wind
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Singles vs doubles screen ?

foggy lodge
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Erm its actually a light clay boosted light screen

solid frigate
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i used thr wrong calc so thats why

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i am looking at when its 1v1

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108+ SpA Raging Bolt Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Tera-Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike through Light Screen: 160-189 (90.9 - 107.3%) -- 50% chance to OHKO

The bare minimum i can live Through lightscreen in 50/50

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but technically does this matter

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like i always have Miraidon lmao

foggy lodge
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I could see it surviving a tclap through the light screen

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But nah its impossible that it survives a tbolt lol

solid frigate
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it doesn't if they are max invest

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at least Lando should OHKO it

next stump
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otherwise you’ll get a game loss

lone mural
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Huh?

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How do you mean?

strange fjord
lone mural
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So like Pre set I could review my pre written notes and then at the start of the round I need to use a blank page every game?

strange fjord
solid frigate
strange fjord
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yes

lone mural
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Yea I mean you can certainly steer against that team

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They also don't have a second restricted lol so like

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Also since when was ash hat Pikachu legal in reg I is this a different format

strange fjord
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yeah i didnt really need to bring a second restricted either. just crowd control with encore and haze

solid frigate
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its more like the don't have another restricted that pairs with them

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well Zama but like

lone mural
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Crazy

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I didn't know

solid frigate
next stump
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and you cannot flip to any different page

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but between rounds, you can reference any page you want

lone mural
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Ohhhh I see

solid frigate
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@next stump should i just run more bulk on Miraidon or just run 4/252/252

if you don't mind i send you my team

lone mural
lofty tartan
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At the start of the round you hand them over, not before.

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When they announce that you're okay to start.

next stump
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^

lone mural
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I see

next stump
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Most people hand them over when you enter the team preview

lofty tartan
#

That's the most normally agreed upon moment.

next stump
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that’s when you have to pass them over, sometimes you’ll get someone wanting to do it earlier and it’s your call

lone mural
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I need to review the rules when I get home but rk9 doesn't make it easy from what I've looked into

next stump
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there’s honestly not to many, it’s very easy once you get into it

lofty tartan
#

Yeah RK9 has some good resources to help simplify the team sheet process as well.

lone mural
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I'm looking forward to it. I feel like my team is pretty good. At least I'm proud of what I've put into it. I'm Zama car's biggest fan

next stump
#

good luck 🙂 which event are you going to?

lone mural
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Melb

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I've been out of town at my parents place this week and I've still been prepping every day. I'm very new to vgc so I don't expect myself to come away with more than 2 sets but I believe

lofty tartan
#

Good to note that CSR/Zama has a lot of hate centered around it at the moment because it's basically the de facto boogeyman of the format. So just be sure to get your practice in GengHeart

lone mural
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Even then Zama csr is still strong

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I wouldn't be so committed to this is I wasn't just bigtime body press fanatic

lofty tartan
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No, I know it's strong. It's just everyone is playing to beat it. Which accounts for the lacking of it in the top cut at Milwuakee

lone mural
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Yea for sure

foggy lodge
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Play Miraidon gang

lofty tartan
#

For sure a strong team. That's why I play Lunala/Ho-Oh

lone mural
#

I have been getting a taste of getting countered tbh. I feel like I've made a team that accounts for their weaknesses though somewhat.

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Any input is appreciated too feel free to backseat yukila2Snug

foggy lodge
lone mural
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Volc string

foggy lodge
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Like in the situation of endgames against things like Zama

lofty tartan
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OH! @next stump I got the job I was working for. I'm no longer gonna be a cashier and instead get to work with the homeless finding them resources and solutions. GengHeart

lone mural
#

Strong*

foggy lodge
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You should beat it lol

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And you even have the coaching to boost the defense so like

lofty tartan
#

Significantly improves my financial state. 2 dollars more an hour and 12 more hours a week

foggy lodge
#

Good luck taking down the CIR lol

lone mural
#

I don't have coaching on my team

foggy lodge
#

Put coaching over aqua jet on shifu

lone mural
#

Scarf ursh weh

foggy lodge
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Makes up for the lacking damage the zama could have from not being max defense

lofty tartan
#

Scarf Ursh has been known to Coach a day or two

lone mural
#

Really

lofty tartan
#

Wait til you see Specs Protect Flutter

lone mural
#

Coaching is +1 atk def right

foggy lodge
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Yeah that's the good thing about the scarf coaching

lone mural
foggy lodge
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You are faster than your Zamazenta and the rest of the mons so you give it the +1 def before the opponent can hit it

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And boost the damage

lofty tartan
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And you just switch to break the Choice lock.

lone mural
#

Wait you're so right actually

foggy lodge
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The only problem would be lacking of prio moves to pick up kos but you can go with glide firepon instead of horn leech

lofty tartan
#

Double Glide spam is real.

foggy lodge
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Some double glide linea with the tera +1 hearthflame can deal crazy damage

lofty tartan
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Lunala/Ho-Oh/Double Glide GengHeart

lone mural
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I want ogerpon to be really bulky to be able to live a couple hits and spread consistent damage

lofty tartan
#

Lunala/Ho-Oh is fairly positive into CSR/Zama so if you see it, don't underestimate it

lone mural
#

Kinda just like diet Zama with redirect

solid frigate
lone mural
foggy lodge
#

Also I think the raging bolt is better with protect > snarl and dragon pulse > draco

lofty tartan
#

Try to leverage Urshifu into Ho-Oh because it'll help wall your restricteds if you don't

foggy lodge
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Because you are booster and with the draco meteor you are at -2 and kinda forces you to switch out but you lose the proto boost

lofty tartan
#

You've gotta burn tera resources before they Tera Grass Ho-Oh vs Ursh

solid frigate
#

Surging Strikes+Tera Water+Rain is just

Stupid but effective (using it rn)

foggy lodge
lofty tartan
#

If they Tailwind your Ogerpon won't be able to catch up to Ho-Oh and eat Brave Birds

foggy lodge
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Ig it didn't have a good spread

lofty tartan
foggy lodge
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But it was so funny in the moment

lofty tartan
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I've seen Ho-Oh tank CC and Icicle Crash and walk away just fine

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Sword of Ruin

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CC from Koraidon (why not Collision Course I won't know the answer to)

foggy lodge
#

I mean Zama hits hard af too

lofty tartan
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Yeah Pulse boosted Koraidon hits hard too xD

solid frigate
#

unless that pao is like Tera Stellar+Sword of ruin then does that do 90% on Ho-Oh

foggy lodge
#

The dauntless shield makes body press effectively a 120 BP move with stab

foggy lodge
lofty tartan
#

It's resisted.

lone mural
lofty tartan
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+3 156+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned Body Press vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Ho-Oh: 100-118 (46.9 - 55.3%) -- 74.22% chance to 2HKO

Like that's zero defense investment and max hp so it's wonky

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Sorry 1 defense investment*

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+3 156+ Def Sword of Ruin Zamazenta-Crowned Body Press vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Ho-Oh: 134-158 (62.9 - 74.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Sword of Ruin Body Press vs that is a lot meatier but again, not a great spread

solid frigate
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252 Atk Sword of Ruin Tera Stellar Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Ho-Oh: 134-158 (62.9 - 74.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Bruh

I guess i just gonna do Miraidon Lando Pin-

#

dear Lord

lofty tartan
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252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 212 HP / 116 Def Ho-Oh: 97-115 (46.6 - 55.2%) -- 71.09% chance to 2HKO

That's the spread I'm using.

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46-55 is a lot more agreeable but the spread is still not the best it could be. But still a lot fatter

foggy lodge
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Ho-Oh @ Clear Amulet
Ability: Regenerator
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 204 HP / 76 Atk / 156 Def / 4 SpD / 68 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Sacred Fire
  • Brave Bird
  • Tailwind
  • Protect
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I was using Pokeaim's spread

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Really goated spread imo

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Brave bird OHKOs Rillaboom

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Unless they are like impish Rilla but that's non existent

solid frigate
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220+ SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Landorus Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Tera Grass Ho-Oh: 117-140 (54.9 - 65.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

Solid damage, if i do ummm

Volt Switch+Sludge Bomb

foggy lodge
#

btw the call is careful ogerpon

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Hearthflame or wellspring

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Obviously not cornerstone lol

bold geode
foggy lodge
#

me and Alex Gómez

bold geode
#

Funny
I said that earlier too

foggy lodge
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I said that since reg G

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Was quite right it ended up being impish lol

bold geode
#

Oh so is it Impish now buddy or KekCry

foggy lodge
#

Idt the Tang's spread is bad for this format

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Rockpon is still everywhere and CIR is annoying

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Depends on what the team needs but I prefer having a stronger Miraidon MU lol

bold geode
#

Why you run Adamant Rockpon Wolfe_Hello

foggy lodge
#

Also italian players are now running Tang's team but with specs Miraidon instead of AV lmao

foggy lodge
#

jiji

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Nah I just want to fish the crits

bold geode
foggy lodge
#

Also nuke Koraidon

bold geode
#

Though usually those are Tera Fairy

foggy lodge
#

Yeah Joey's team

bold geode
#

Joey didn't have Grimm

foggy lodge
#

Tho tbh I don't think Joey's team is good

foggy lodge
bold geode
#

Eh it's aight

bold geode
foggy lodge
bold geode
#

Oh wrong Joe

foggy lodge
#

That's Pokeaim for me lol

bold geode
#

I don't call Ugarte Joey

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I say Joe or Ugarte

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Zam Mirai is kinda heat but eh

solid frigate
#

i am not gonna say a Joe mama joke-

foggy lodge
#

It was calling him either Joey or Pepe

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Choose one lol

bold geode
solid frigate
#

LMO

foggy lodge
#

no

bold geode
foggy lodge
#

But someone needs to crack it right

foggy lodge
#

I tested Lorenzo Arce's team and like it was okay

bold geode
#

I just think QD Volc is ass

foggy lodge
#

But it felt like something was lacking

foggy lodge
#

But into everything else is harder to pull out

bold geode
#

I just prefer support there tbh

foggy lodge
#

Also the sitrus berry generates some kind of like

bold geode
#

Then again I've always preferred support Volc

foggy lodge
#

Dilemma to me cause leftovers forces you to play way slower but sitrus berry its turned off by the Calyrexes

solid frigate
#

my team is ass

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for QD volca

foggy lodge
#

But yeah idt this reg is for QD Volc

bold geode
foggy lodge
#

Cool team for reg G Joey but let it go lol

solid frigate
lone mural
solid frigate
lone mural
#

What does it do outside of psyspam

solid frigate
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252 SpA Expert Belt Quark Drive Iron Crown Tachyon Cutter (2 hits) vs. 212 HP / 4 SpD Calyrex-Ice: 202-244 (100 - 120.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

it does something like this

lone mural
#

"Fuck your trick room" ah calc

foggy lodge
#

The bad thing about Crown is that like previous Koraidon teams would use it to patch MUs but now having CSR and Lunala it gets outclassed

solid frigate
#

Why use Imprison when you have a Metal Cobalion

lone mural
lone mural
#

Bonk

solid frigate
#

+1 76+ Atk Hearthflame Mask Tera Fire Ogerpon-Hearthflame-Tera Ivy Cudgel vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Indeedee-F: 174-206 (98.3 - 116.3%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

foggy lodge
#

Miraidon and Hearthflame not being besties anymore is heartbreaking

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But dw they will come back and stronger

solid frigate
lone mural
solid frigate
#

i mean there's a CSR so i can close 1 eye on Speed Control

foggy lodge
solid frigate
#

but overall Dragon is a better Tera for Zama imo

lone mural
#

That's why I'm kinda not running speed control because Zama doesn't care about taking hits and CSR/ursh outspeeds anything not in tw or scarf

solid frigate
# foggy lodge

or with My Miraidon

Fuck Arubega i am running with Kyogre

foggy lodge
#

Fake out redirect can make up for it

lone mural
foggy lodge
#

And yeah dragon

lone mural
#

I'm so dumb I was running grass as a miraidon counter

foggy lodge
#

Grass is only for rain comps

lone mural
foggy lodge
#

Dragon makes you weak to draco and dazzling but like

lone mural
#

It also turns off zamas fire weakness which I've been struggling with

foggy lodge
#

You die to the draco meteor anyways so

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lol

lone mural
solid frigate
#

trade a SpA drop for Zama is fine imo cuz Draco can't Kill Rilla or CSR that way

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also Encore on CSR is like the most common one now

foggy lodge
#

244+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Draco Meteor vs. 188 HP / 100 SpD Tera Grass Zamazenta-Crowned: 172-204 (90 - 106.8%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO

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And this was my super bulky Zama

lone mural
#

Oh yea you're right innit

rustic mountain
#

r u british

foggy lodge
#

I ran scarf jolly shifu to take care of modest scarf lando

solid frigate
#

Briitish Alert

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wait no-

I can't say that i live in uk

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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

lone mural
#

Hmmmmmm. I feel like tera grass into miraidon is so strong though idk about it. I'm so used to piloting tera grass that's it's weird. It's also a powder move counter

foggy lodge
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Because the one that deals the most damage is modest and shifu just kills it

rustic mountain
#

bri'ish

foggy lodge
#

Has wide guard too and sets up the rain

solid frigate
#

anyways does Miraidon need Bulk on Specs set or just run 4/252/252 is fine-

foggy lodge
#

Let me grab my reg G paste

lone mural
foggy lodge
lone mural
#

Ohhh

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Why exactly is grass only strong in rain?

foggy lodge
#

Turns off the fire weakness that otherwise you could not play around

lone mural
#

Ohhhh I see

foggy lodge
#

And Pelipper is a strong mon for this comp

lone mural
#

Mine?

foggy lodge
#

Turns off the fire weakness for Zama and Amoonguss and boosts Urshifu's damage to insane levels

foggy lodge
solid frigate
#

Rain+Surging Strikes+Tera Water is just Horrifying

foggy lodge
#

Depends on what you want

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Another good tera for Zama is ghost

lone mural
#

Idk. I'm very not used to running weather but I'll see about it.

lone mural
foggy lodge
#

It was the one used by Zeen

solid frigate
#

252+ Atk Tera Water Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 132 Def Kyogre in Rain on a critical hit: 105-126 (50.7 - 60.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

lone mural
#

Me issue but raaaah

solid frigate
#

Sun and rain are very easy to run now

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Well Sun is more dominant anyway

lone mural
#

Rain would turn off groudon and Koraidon

solid frigate
#

yes but rn Kyogre is in the back foot and i am running Miraidon Kyogre rn-

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and even with opressive damage is kinda doesn't matter when Koraidon is so much better as a sun setter that it can beat Kyogre no problem sometimes

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like Kyogre itself is a problem

lone mural
#

I don't have too negative of a matchup into oger itself

lone mural
#

Is 0 speed groudon like. Common at all

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I wanna make sure peli gets weather up into groudon

cyan smelt
#

I doubt it but usually Groudon aims to underspeed kyogre

lone mural
#

I need a 28 Speed IV peli SMILERS

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Groudon does like to pair with lunala so I can see Min speed groudon

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Okay nevermind after calcing I'm a peli believer now

cyan smelt
#

I'm not a sun believer anymore, seems like every other team has rain dance torn or trick room

cyan smelt
#

I suck lol

astral kelp
#

why tf does only rb learn this

molten oasis
#

funny

astral kelp
#

do they want koraidon miraidon rb to be a team

molten oasis
#

yes

astral kelp
#

or koraidon pinchurin lmfao

#

wait \

#

iron hands learns trick room???

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imagine youre playing against hands and they click trick room HAHAH

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oh nvm im dumb i searched it wrong it does not learn trick room

tiny karmaBOT
#
Archaludon [Steel/Dragon]
Immune

Poison

Resists (0.25x)

Grass

Resists (0.5x)

Bug, Electric, Flying, Normal, Psychic, Rock, Steel, Water

Neutral damage

Dark, Dragon, Fairy, Fire, Ghost, Ice, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Fighting, Ground

Type Notes

Steel-types cannot be Poisoned.
Steel-types take no damage from Sandstorm.

sharp cobalt
cyan smelt
#

Feels like I'm losing more than I win though

astral kelp
#

thats fine lol

solid frigate
#

lose some win some anyway

astral kelp
#

i was running like a 30% winrate for a long time

#

lower eveb

torn parrot
chrome knot
#

Aaah water is scary

plain drum
#

Real

shadow wind
cyan smelt
#

-8ball do I go to Melbourne

gentle cragBOT
#

do I go to Melbourne
:8ball: Outlook good

solid frigate
#

literally-

shadow wind
#

Flow state

cyan smelt
#

i need to train myself to stop playing games on autopilot

shadow wind
#

I play Bo1 in autopilot

#

One of the reasons I stopped playing it

solid frigate
shadow wind
#

Way too easy to just go brain dead and start clicking buttons

shadow wind
solid frigate
shadow wind
#

With Koraidon yeah

solid frigate
#

Kyogre is on backfoot

#

good lord Miraidon has decent Synergy with Kyogre

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Basically like ZacOgre but Electric Type

#

I remember one time people said Mirai Ogre is like bad in double res cuz we are still in the Discharge Era

astral kelp
#

i really want to try something like this

astral kelp
#

fair enough ive been meaning to try miraiogre for a bit

solid frigate
#

its more like people overcomplicating things

astral kelp
solid frigate
#

i seen people tried a lot of different things

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on Mirai Ogre and doesn't work as well

astral kelp
#

tbh what is there to try

#

mirai ogre torn

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trick room setter + prolly iron hansd

solid frigate
#

i seen very few that has Torn

astral kelp
#

and urshifu

#

iidk actually whats the 6th slotusuallyu

solid frigate
#

Trick Room is Optional

astral kelp
solid frigate
#

idk they have problems

astral kelp
#

btw wyt of icy wind torn

#

ive been trying it out on a very like defensive team its felt pretty good

near crag
#

How good y’all think miraidon zamazenta is rn?

exotic grotto
near crag
#

Do you think this duo holds up to miraidon and cir/lunala?

exotic grotto
#

Yup!

astral kelp
#

why is everyone running this

exotic grotto
#

Because it's a really strong and perfect team!

bold geode
#

Popular CSR Zam variant that won an online tour, though it's kinda meh imo

astral kelp
#

pov :D

#

csr not beating the fraud allegations imma be real

solid frigate
atomic mural
astral kelp
astral kelp
#

bro hates amoongus?

#

thats my guess

#

holy bro is cookin

#

lol these teams are hilarious

chrome knot
#

why is zoroark there every mon has an ability that activates upon entry😭

#

except zard

old pumice
#

Is cresselia any good in Reg I or is there anyone I could use instead if not?

astral kelp
astral kelp
astral kelp
old pumice
chrome knot
astral kelp
astral kelp
#

farigiraffe and indeedee have priorty blocking which counters one of the main ways people get around trick room

old pumice
#

Ah okay

#

So there's no real point in using cresselia?

astral kelp
#

oh and cresc has worse typing

astral kelp
old pumice
astral kelp
#

one of the things that makes fari/dee so good is being immune to astral barrage imo

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the only way to stop it is ig taunt

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or one shotting it lol

old pumice
real prairie
chrome knot
#

what tf

real prairie
#

That would be pain

chrome knot
#

youd catch me deaaad

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ohohoh ! @real prairie for naic i played through hgss for shiny 0atk kyogre and then got a buncha ribbons & the living legend ribbon on it so she gets to be a special baby

chrome knot
#

look at her so prettyblobmelt

solid frigate
bold geode
exotic grotto
real prairie
chrome knot
#

monkemonkemonke

#

i learnt all old games rng stuff🥺

bold geode
#

What you mean

exotic grotto
#

What is rng stuff?

chrome knot
#

look at my plat ID it has cute charm on it asw :3

bold geode
#

Ooooooooooooooooo

#

Bnuuy

solid frigate
#

Bnuuy moment

exotic grotto
chrome knot
#

using it when Lopunny comes back to vgc in future games

#

when her mega is usable ^-^

bold geode
#

How you gonna get those back to SV?

exotic grotto
chrome knot
#

ms emma has transporter and bank

bold geode
#

I see

#

I didn't know Bank was still running

cyan smelt
#

it's running indefinitely

solid frigate
#

i

solemn forge
cyan smelt
#

just lost to tera fairy tyranitar, fuck bo1

solid frigate
#

@craggy dagger NOOOOOOO I OVERSHOTTED ON THE SPEED

red willow
#

So like does close combat vs collision course on Koraidon matter that much?

solid frigate
#

lorb for Close Combat and yes it does

red willow
#

So go combat over course? Does the stat drops not end up mattering all that much?

cyan smelt
#

this team reached 3 in the bo3 ladder but i keep losing with it, what gives?

spiral ridge
bold geode
#

@craggy dagger HAI BESTIE Jingliu_hug

solid frigate
# spiral ridge What happened 😭

i was planning to Build Hyacine (New sustain in HSR, she needs at least 200 speed out of combat)

And i was gonna meet 222 (CSR’s Max Speed) or 205 (Koraidon and Miraidon’s Max Speed) in level 50

But i overshotted by 2 speed

spiral ridge
#

lol

#

Jesus new ones take that much I’d fucking hate relic rolling

solid frigate
#

im honestly baffled on your reading comprehension

foggy lodge
#

@spiral ridge share playlist i like your music lol

spiral ridge
#

I just sent someone a song and your ass pings

foggy lodge
#

Lmao

#

Your spotify appears on my friends list

solid frigate
spiral ridge
#

Gimme one sec there’s some songs I’ve been meaning to remove 😭

exotic grotto
solid frigate
#

you can just call her human Sylveon

spiral ridge
#

K it seems it did cool

#

A band I was getting tired of was in here way too much lol

#

Uhh there’s no solid genre so I recommend shuffle 😭

modern cliff
#

I’m looking for a last team member for bd for this team Electivire
Ability: Motor Drive
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

  • Wild Charge
  • Fire Punch
  • Brick Break
  • Rock Slide

Honchkrow
Ability: Moxie
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
Modest Nature

  • Dark Pulse
  • U-turn
  • Heat Wave
  • Air Slash

Garchomp
Ability: Rough Skin
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Earthquake
  • Dragon Claw
  • Iron Head
  • Poison Jab

Metagross
Ability: Clear Body
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature

  • Bullet Punch
  • Iron Head
  • Zen Headbutt
  • Ice Punch

Gyarados
Ability: Intimidate
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

  • Waterfall
  • Crunch
  • Ice Fang
  • Iron Head
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This is for bd

near crag
bold geode
near crag
near crag
#

Just feel like everyone would’ve prepped for it

bold geode
#

I mean CSR Pagos is already generic as hell KekCry

#

I really have nothing else tbh
I think Incineroar is just the best bet

modern cliff
bold geode
solid frigate
#

also wait i hashtagged something wrong lmao

modern cliff
bold geode
#

Well if you have Torterra then that's what I'd say but otherwise I have no clue

modern cliff
#

So a grass type?

bold geode
#

Ye

modern cliff
#

But wouldn’t be better to have a sp grass becouse I have 4 other type

bold geode
#

I guess though it's just the story so it really don't matter lol

solid frigate
#

literally did not matter cuz i use Greninja against BB academy lmao

#

and it nukes

modern cliff
civic ruin
#

What is the most consistent build for the ace tournament? Finally got a turbo controller and I want to put it to use

bold geode
#

@forest arrow you there man? Idk the Ace strat now

modern cliff
bold geode
#

Tbh idr what all Pokemon are in that game

modern cliff
#

Rosarade

bold geode
#

That'll work

solid frigate
bold geode
#

Idfk

solid frigate
#

oh wait

#

BDSP-

modern cliff
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Yep

solid frigate
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i am not beating Fake Gen 4 fan allegations lmao

modern cliff
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I’m just doing that game for one Pokémon

solid frigate
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which one?

modern cliff
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The shiny god

solid frigate
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ah Arceus

civic ruin
forest arrow
bold geode
forest arrow
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Kyurem W with metronome

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It has a certain spread, I’d look it up on YouTube

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Nvm I guess it’s just 252 252

civic ruin
forest arrow
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Ice beam

gentle cragBOT
forest arrow
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?

bold geode
forest arrow
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SpA and Speed

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@civic ruin

civic ruin
gentle cragBOT
forest arrow
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You’re welcome just caught me off guard cause I didn’t know who you were and you told me to ping you, I didn’t know you were asking for it lol I just got off work

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Nice to meet you tho, hope that helps you

civic ruin
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Ntmyt!
Also, what personality?

forest arrow
void sluice
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OK, so quick question. I understand that if I hyper train pokemon, I can't send it to bdsp without it being lv 100. Does this only apply to bdsp origin pokemon or other origin pokemon also?

rustic mountain
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252 252 gets too much hate

rustic mountain
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some games require different lvls to hyper train, it was standard it was lvl 100 b4 sv where u only need lvl 50

bold geode
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Hope no one clicked that

rustic mountain
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🤨

bold geode
molten oasis
bold geode
molten oasis
bold geode
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"But I wanna meet the women in my area"

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FREE ROBUX? I LOVE CALL OF DUTY

forest arrow
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💀

left bobcat
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Been waiting on u

craggy dagger
dense latch
bold geode
red willow
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Holy hell how long does it take to find an opponent on cart at beginner rank lmao

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Well we got into our first match and lunala swept their whole team as my only mon left

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Expanding force in psychic terrain go brr

next stump
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nice 🙂

bold geode
chrome knot
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i so excited for naic

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booking flights tomorrow ^-^

lofty tartan
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Put my two week's notice in at my job. 💪

molten oasis
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I was gonna go to NAIC then just didn’t have the funds

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Gonna go to worlds tho

near crag
azure ether
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Protect on a Cloak mon?

azure ether
near crag
azure ether
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Having Wide Guard on Pelipper could be good since CIR can't do anything to it

spiral ridge