#competitive_discussion
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The guy who won, that’s a very unorthodox team
Also seeem the zacogre people like amoonguss a lot
light ball
yea probably, also good for countering mirai with lightning rod
damn really? i feel like i bring grimm to so many games but different team
screens are really nice depending on comp
Yea idk
I kinda suck at playing screens lol
I prefer fake out or follow me stuff, and incin was kinda doing a lot of the physical deterrent stuff
im getting used to it again myself tbh since i usually dont but grimms solid man
While ogre just clicks CM for the special side
I know, I just suck at using it lol
gta actually use it to understand it more
Plus I’m liking this better so far
Moons a Mon I’m very comfortable with
I did do screens with Mirai Zac for a bit
im using av mirai rn w/ electric seed lunala, screens benefits them immensely
I was better at utilizing Grimm here
This team was hella flawed tho lol
And I was playing this before normal Ursa got popular
The team that won Milwaukee?
That teams so strong
Absolutely
I honestly was against playing ogre for a while then looked at that team and kinda thought “yk ogres not terrible into this team” and went back to Zacogre
It’s still not an easy game but ogre does a lot if Mirai is dealt with, and I nerf the Ursa with incin pivot stuff
I’ve also adjusted to using incin, I appreciate the Mon a lot more now
incin the goat
or u just die slowly behind the opponents screens and the war of attrition like this game ( not kyogre but still)
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excuse the elo, been testing a bunch of different teams and adjusting to different comps 
I’m doing a fresh account with PASRS rn it’s fine lol
Yea I have to lead intentionally trying to get rid of Grimm usually
Or at least stopping one of the screens
ill hit 80% again......eventually 
yea its tough cuz u focus too much on that and u may lose too many resources in the process cuz ur committing just for 1 support mon
its tricky
Tricky mu no matter what
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getting better w/ the squad, band urshi mvp
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Although I lead the same thing everytime, incin lando is really good pressure on lead
really has been my biggest issue is figuring out wen to bring what
You think that team is gonna be countered at some point or is it gonna be like an Arubega
idk bout countered
but idk bout arubega
prolly somewhere in between
ppl will adapt but some iteration of the team will survive as the meta evolves
pretty early still for stuff to be the call like that imo
Right
I figured it'd be like that but yeah like
There's not much of a weakness to exploit here
even worlds we had time for the format to develop b4 we got arubega
I feel like someone will find a mu that’s really good into this team
But it’s, not gonna be easy at all
Tbf Arubega was like
It was near the completion the whole fucking format
im honestly finding all my losses have to do w/ me vs the team
the teams really good
Just someone finally found the right 2 mons with it
still
That team is so strong
Yessss
Wait ayo wtf
When they gonna give us our shiny bikes

i said that earlier, ik man its insane

It's ok, they want the casino bro
shiny ruins, give us something
Just do the GameStop event already, we’re begging you
They're probably gonna pick some shitty player
i really thought last holiday like nov/dec wed get it
Nice game
ty
I did not wanna ping you for that oh well lmao
well u did and look where we are
lol
True

lol
Nah Tree
Imagine they trade the pick for like the last draft pick 
I gotta put the stuff I have ingame, I haven’t played it much but I think av will be nice
The team doesn’t like shifu and having thunder kyogre does a lot for that
easily need to be removed as ownership
idk if flagg is gna be that good but he doesnt seem like major bust either
I’m curious what the next regional will bring
wen is the next 1
Yeah but rich people want what they want so
They already gave up Luka
Bro plz just
cart is so much fun
Plz don't fuck this up Mavs
This weekend I believe there is 3 going on
Is there anyone else besides Cooper Flag?
Yeah yall got the golden ticket fs
luka as crazy as it was, still wasnt super far fetched, this is like they have such a massive handout rn ud be crazy to pass that up
treeco. has given 1 Gen Rep to dollarmonke
man wat
Right just like plz do something with this
I beg of you
Yeah I’m pretty sure there is 3 regionals going on
If they fumble the bag I'm changing teams fuck this
u should
I have to build the mons tho and I’m lazy 
Like Spurs iirc got 2nd and 14th pick, I'm going there maybe
(It doesn’t take that long)
like luka was a dumb decision 100%, but neither team did well this year
until 1 wins a chip u cant say the either messed up
If I wanna compete more in the future I need to play cart more anyway
u should have so much bp from hitting mball tier just buy the vitamins
Yeah i definitely need to play more cart too
I'm sorry this might be a hot take
I think the Lakers can win a chip with Luka ......
But it's gonna have to be without Bron
I haven’t hit MB since December lmao
You can farm money at Ace tourney with Kyu W
they wasted so many good years of lebron nd u gna have the nerve to say they can do it w/o him?

But yeah I'm sorry
Idk if Bron ever wins a ring again
Or I can just
bron of old wouldve farmed this era
It takes a little longer without amulet coin but it works
Ev train manually and spend 2 hours on it
I let it run sometimes when I go to work
BRO LUKA TOOK THE MAVS THERE WITH ONE OTHER GUY AND SOME GOOD ROLE PLAYERS
And my evs for most of my mons only need slight adjustments
He got Reaves, give him another guy and we good
Except ogre, I have to get and train an ogre
they had a solid squad
lakers do not rn
Yeah
They could build around Luka for sure
Yo anyone got a spare shiny kyogre 
that trade at the deadline that szn really propelled them w/ pj washington/lively/gafford
I can’t tell yall how many Dmax raids I’ve done for Lunala
Oh yeah getting Gafford and PJ was gas ngl
i got lunala pretty quickly fortunately
b4 that they werent that good
I still don’t have mine and I’ve been at it for about 2 months now
but he rounded out the team to support the deficiences of luka
not consistently but still a drag
Yeah cuz they had fucking Grant Williams
lakers dont have that for luka rn
Took me years and 300+
Goodluck
Grant Williams was a bum
Damn I’m in for the long haul tho, Lunala is one of my most fav shinies out there
Damn no one got a spare shiny kyogre 
I’ll do the grind, probably after finishing expedition 33
got my lunala today 
yea
its great
Use stuff like flareon
Deadass
gl dude
I’ll def try flareon
if u can find a path with bisharp its really strong too, it takes the max starfall pretty well and deals like 25% per attack
Also question
Cooper definitely ain't a Bennett is he
HE'S A GUARD
Fuck it I'll take him
Come to Papa
i doubt there’ll ever be a bust as big as bennett

anthony bennett?
nah hes like a sf/pf hybrid idt hes gna be as bad as bennett turned out to be
i’m glad flagg’s not gonna be stuck in a poverty franchise for the first years of his career
Thank fuck
dollarmonke has given 1 Gen Rep to treeco.
u wont play it tho
I’ll try it
If he sends out a paste
I like my stuff rn tho so idt ill stick with it
Oh
@spiral ridge I forgot to tell ya
My store has the Ashton Hall water
Let's do this 
Can you float midair above a pool for 4 minutes?
We find a way
I can say thank you a lot for sure
For our fatasses I think a way is also known as a forklift

:3
I thought the legendaries from snacksworth were shiny locked?
Oh theres a raid for lunala? Mb
Yeah Dynamax Raids in Sw/Sh, all good!
Any1 kno how I get pain split on a Cofagrigus in swsh
Reset the game an I forgot how to do stuff. It’s been a few years

i wish i didnt hunt ho oh already lol
like not shiny
I can play it and try it out and not make it my main team lol
ofc
Or do you just want me to stop making teams 

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like i always say swordfish is freelo
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Pray for crits ig
they had tera blast ghost for lunala 
Scarf ogre?
man u didnt even watch the game
What i totally did 

I’ll watch it
ull get a kick out of it

they also protected infront of an urshifu
Just pray for miss that position sucked for him
Yea that was hard to watch play my dog better
haha yea
i didnt play too well either
i was expecting fake out grimm t1 so i just threw reflect up prolly shouldve done light screen, i jus did not expect tera blast ghost lando
nd then like targetting wise prolly should hit zacian over lando i just called the switch wrong
i assumed theyd prefer switching zacian out but some ppl even if its the right play dont wanna lose boosts
Yea I tend to do that
I usually can call when
But I don’t wanna lose the boost if I don’t have to
A problem I have fs
if i do the same play there
of double t wave and surging zacian and they protect
they lose zacian for nothing
losing the boost is worth it to potential have better positioning in the end game
Yea
And like, wood hammer the Grimmsnarl
Or shifu, idk if it would have killed the shifu
they were too u turn happy
right lmao
def getting more comfortable w/ the team
tho still notcing a lot of misplays
You’ll figure it out
A good player with that team like, legit should rarely lose that team is insane
There were 3 in top 4 I think
Tera ghost blast Lando
Justin was the only one to not day 2 with it
I believe he went 5-3
Yea
Dammn ho oh is such a goated shiny too
That fucking bird that I hate
Hey guys im brand new to the server. Does anyone in here play battle stadium singles or is this chat only vgc focused?
I'm working on building a team right now and I don't really know what direction to take it
right
its mostly vgc focused theres only a few ppl ive seen that either dabble or only play singles and they usually just pop in from time to time
walls zacian 
pops in
Oh why hello
yea thats why i hate it lol
ik
i do like nuking it with cornerstone tho
That's a shame. I love singles quite a lot but I understand why it's niche
id recommend the smogon server
even if more niche theres a passionate community for it
Alright I will check em out. Thanks man
build lunala/mirai tn?
:8ball: You may rely on it

-8ball is Solgaleo kinda the goat
is Solgaleo kinda the goat
:8ball: Outlook not so good
Damn 
-8ball is my current team worth building
is my current team worth building
:8ball: You may rely on it

rotom actually being honest
well i guess it cant always be
jkjk 
would it be better to build zac mirai?
:8ball: Don't count on it

-8ball do you lie?
do you lie?
:8ball: Outlook good

-8ball we're you lying to me
we're you lying to me
:8ball: Very doubtful
-8ball did you lie about that
did you lie about that
:8ball: Ask again later
did you lie about you lying to me
:8ball: Cannot predict now
-8ball answer my question
answer my question
:8ball: Concentrate and ask again
lmao
-8ball DID YOU LIE ABOUT YOU LYING TO ME
DID YOU LIE ABOUT YOU LYING TO ME
:8ball: Ask again later
did you lie to me
:8ball: My sources say no
-8ball so, build my zacogre team ingame?
so, build my zacogre team ingame?
:8ball: My sources say no
-8ball okay so build zacmirai?
okay so build zacmirai?
:8ball: Ask again later
-8ball should i build zacmirai
should i build zacmirai
:8ball: Signs point to yes
damn

-8ball does zac pao mirai cook?
does zac pao mirai cook?
:8ball: It is certain
does that cook
:8ball: As I see it, yes
nice

grats thats awesome
i just transferred my shiny lunala onto my sv profile 
just went 3-1 on cart w/ zama/csr 
very nice
at 791 rn, still got it w/ that core 
wanna move onto something new tho hence mirai/lunala

why does everything seem to be countering my team today
well what are you playing
korai lunala
You just gonna be holding onto it in the back until it seems like people aren’t ready for it lol
ZAZAZOINKS

this team sucks like all my other teams
Does anyone have any tips for Competitive they could give me, I'm fairly new and any help would be appreciated?
Pins Message usually have some comp Doubles tips you can use
Okay thank you
man i'm terrible at vgc
This is only my 2nd regulation ever but I preferred the 1 legendary by far
i'm really struggling
This sucks i thought i can finally push on BSS this reg but it just ho-oh stall everywhere 
BSS? What's that?
What are you using?
Battle stadium single
Ohh
I already reach master rank on double so i guess it's worth a shoot to also reach master rank on bss but yeah
Nice congrats
It's painful and the mind games is more brutal
Best I've gotten was great ball rank 8 and lost my rank up game 😔
Whats the best possible 6/6 team with atleasst koraidon, miradon and ogerpon in it, who should be the last 3?
Ogerpon with firemask
Idk but I'd probably slap a Flutter on there
thinking bout just switching to the regional team because every team i build sucks
What’s your koala team look like
i was using the top 3 bo3 one with glimmora instead of brute bonnet but i might just switch back to the bo3 one
the regional team seems impossible to play against though
Just need ways to shut it down, but yes it’s a great team
basically can't stop it setting screens
Taunt flutter/incin, adamant korai
just a few changes I’ve made that help a little bit
i hadn't thought of taunt flutter
the lunala always teras though and it's really annoying to take down
Does your team have Ursaluna
the bo3 team that i was using before does not have ursa
i'm ass at this game
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i forgot i have Urshifu
cuz i did not bring Lando
Of course the psych up caly flamigo guy rejects ots
it doesn't matter cuz this team has 3 teammates beats that strat
the two Genies and Urshifu
They should have accepted ots because they tried to fake out a covert cloak tornadus twice
i'm not suprised they lost
Just giving this info
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if i lead Lando its even worse for him
if the lead is Muk Smeragle my genies can beat it
Ig you lead torn then switch in miraidon to prevent spore?
Tera*
Torn is a flying type
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this guy has set up trick room and his csr still moves before my lunala how
New gastrodon time
You set up TW
oh yh forgot about that
What speed is your Lunala at
4 ev
wish I could tw twice to cancel it out like tr
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Hurricane > Bleakwind Storm
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Hello everyone, I was hoping to get alittle advice. Im trying to get into reg I, wich jumping right into it' alittle tricky. That said I had a an idea for a koraidon+lunala team, but im unsure if adding indedee f for Psychic terrain and trick room is worth it to add here, or if I should focus on something else.
Indeedee is a great addition for the team
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Thank you!
https://pokepast.es/924facabd6594593 scarf ogre is picking up ig, does it make any sense here? I like av so far and idt spout makes sense on this team but i could be wrong
Hehe, Wolfeglick gets an Incin distribution
i read that as scarf ogerpon 
Don't hurt to give it a shot at least
bruh lmao
Orange Cran
i usually dont judge teams but come on bruh
which side we talkin here 😭
hey, im not the one running dozoguri with weezing csr
shame they didnt run a cooler set for regirock
it was just explosion endure tatsu
with costar dozo in the back
and i just used haze
Eww ho-oh
Morals are bullshit
CSR DozoGiri go brr
Ho oh is cool
as a Miraidon main
What am i seeing here
you are getting cooked no matter what
Terapagos is an anomaly of a Mon cuz how tf does it manage to be good and awful at the same time
because gamefreak don't want to make it as Busted as Calyrex
because its mid
Ho Oh a bitch (help me he's hard lol)
Flying fire lowkey a great type
I mean it honestly really has its negatives but the meta just really couldn't handle it as well as you'd think
Idk why I didn't see Mirai Ho Oh though
Fought it once (though the Ho Oh set was wack so I didn't think much of it)
But it just makes sense
And it's hella strong
He doesn't like Cornerstone
Yeah who ya think I'm using now 
Hey so Uhm. Question. Do regionals let you bring in resources to help you in game like a little self made write-up of matchups and gameplans and stuff like that
I'm thinking of just printing some shit into a notebook for regionals just to help in the moment
you can bring notebooks but usually i just remember the Matchup by head
Could I have that stuff in the notebook would they disallow that
Never been but iirc you can do that
Yippee
I know you can bring notebooks for sure
Idt they're like
Checking the contents of the notebook
Yea I've seen that but I'm not sure if there's limitations on what the contents could be

Well you're wanting to write MUs and lines down which doesn't really go against the rules imo
If so then practicing for events would be banned
i just go in blind lmao
Soo I've been trying to find the Metagross thing can someone send me the ping for that
@fossil zenith #hydreigon_raids
252+ SpA Protosynthesis Raging Bolt Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Urshifu-Rapid-Strike through Light Screen: 171-202 (97.1 - 114.7%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKO
hmmm.
That's fake btw lol
252+ SpA Protosynthesis Raging Bolt Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Urshifu-Rapid-Strike through Light Screen: 228-269 (129.5 - 152.8%) -- guaranteed OHKO
wait a sec
i used the wrong calculator
Singles vs doubles screen ?
Erm its actually a light clay boosted light screen
i used thr wrong calc so thats why
i am looking at when its 1v1
108+ SpA Raging Bolt Thunderbolt vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Tera-Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike through Light Screen: 160-189 (90.9 - 107.3%) -- 50% chance to OHKO
The bare minimum i can live Through lightscreen in 50/50
but technically does this matter
like i always have Miraidon lmao
I could see it surviving a tclap through the light screen
But nah its impossible that it survives a tbolt lol
252+ SpA Protosynthesis Raging Bolt Thunderclap vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Tera-Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike through Light Screen: 177-209 (100.5 - 118.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
it doesn't if they are max invest
at least Lando should OHKO it
you can have anything in your notebook but you need to be on a blank page every round
otherwise you’ll get a game loss
lol i won ez
So like Pre set I could review my pre written notes and then at the start of the round I need to use a blank page every game?
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somehow huh
Were you the miraidon ho oh
yes
Yea I mean you can certainly steer against that team
They also don't have a second restricted lol so like
Also since when was ash hat Pikachu legal in reg I is this a different format
yeah i didnt really need to bring a second restricted either. just crowd control with encore and haze
its more like the don't have another restricted that pairs with them
well Zama but like
always legal
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Legit dunno what is Lorb Set Eternatus speed EVs
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When you sit down against your opponent, your notebook needs to be open to a blank page
and you cannot flip to any different page
but between rounds, you can reference any page you want
Ohhhh I see
@next stump should i just run more bulk on Miraidon or just run 4/252/252
if you don't mind i send you my team
Out of curiosity when do you see your opponent's team sheets. Do you just hand it to them when you sit down
At the start of the round you hand them over, not before.
When they announce that you're okay to start.
^
I see
Most people hand them over when you enter the team preview
That's the most normally agreed upon moment.
that’s when you have to pass them over, sometimes you’ll get someone wanting to do it earlier and it’s your call
I need to review the rules when I get home but rk9 doesn't make it easy from what I've looked into
there’s honestly not to many, it’s very easy once you get into it
Yeah RK9 has some good resources to help simplify the team sheet process as well.
I'm looking forward to it. I feel like my team is pretty good. At least I'm proud of what I've put into it. I'm Zama car's biggest fan
good luck 🙂 which event are you going to?
Melb
I've been out of town at my parents place this week and I've still been prepping every day. I'm very new to vgc so I don't expect myself to come away with more than 2 sets but I believe
Good to note that CSR/Zama has a lot of hate centered around it at the moment because it's basically the de facto boogeyman of the format. So just be sure to get your practice in 
Oh my friends been making a bunch of different teams with a whole bunch of different restricteds and supporting mons so I'm confident
Even then Zama csr is still strong
I wouldn't be so committed to this is I wasn't just bigtime body press fanatic
No, I know it's strong. It's just everyone is playing to beat it. Which accounts for the lacking of it in the top cut at Milwuakee
Yea for sure
Play Miraidon gang
For sure a strong team. That's why I play Lunala/Ho-Oh
I have been getting a taste of getting countered tbh. I feel like I've made a team that accounts for their weaknesses though somewhat.
https://pokepast.es/dcfc6c30dbed6286 firepon needs more testing but I like it so far
Any input is appreciated too feel free to backseat 
btw this CIR set is really strong https://pokepast.es/04704eaad06722ac
Volc string
Like in the situation of endgames against things like Zama
OH! @next stump I got the job I was working for. I'm no longer gonna be a cashier and instead get to work with the homeless finding them resources and solutions. 
Strong*
Significantly improves my financial state. 2 dollars more an hour and 12 more hours a week
Good luck taking down the CIR lol
I don't have coaching on my team
LETS GOOOO
Put coaching over aqua jet on shifu
Scarf ursh 
Makes up for the lacking damage the zama could have from not being max defense
Scarf Ursh has been known to Coach a day or two
Really
Wait til you see Specs Protect Flutter
Coaching is +1 atk def right
Yeah that's the good thing about the scarf coaching
Ooooo okay
You are faster than your Zamazenta and the rest of the mons so you give it the +1 def before the opponent can hit it
And boost the damage
And you just switch to break the Choice lock.
Wait you're so right actually
The only problem would be lacking of prio moves to pick up kos but you can go with glide firepon instead of horn leech
Double Glide spam is real.
Some double glide linea with the tera +1 hearthflame can deal crazy damage
Lunala/Ho-Oh/Double Glide 
I want ogerpon to be really bulky to be able to live a couple hits and spread consistent damage
Lunala/Ho-Oh is fairly positive into CSR/Zama so if you see it, don't underestimate it
Kinda just like diet Zama with redirect
the funny button
What would you think my play is into that?
Also I think the raging bolt is better with protect > snarl and dragon pulse > draco
Try to leverage Urshifu into Ho-Oh because it'll help wall your restricteds if you don't
Because you are booster and with the draco meteor you are at -2 and kinda forces you to switch out but you lose the proto boost
You've gotta burn tera resources before they Tera Grass Ho-Oh vs Ursh
Surging Strikes+Tera Water+Rain is just
Stupid but effective (using it rn)
Fun fact I ko'd a Ho-Oh with icicle crash body press double up
If they Tailwind your Ogerpon won't be able to catch up to Ho-Oh and eat Brave Birds
Ig it didn't have a good spread
That's crazy. Sword of Ruin, probs, and possibly lower Def investment because that's whacky
But it was so funny in the moment
I've seen Ho-Oh tank CC and Icicle Crash and walk away just fine
Sword of Ruin
CC from Koraidon (why not Collision Course I won't know the answer to)
I mean Zama hits hard af too
Yeah Pulse boosted Koraidon hits hard too xD
unless that pao is like Tera Stellar+Sword of ruin then does that do 90% on Ho-Oh
The dauntless shield makes body press effectively a 120 BP move with stab
Oh it was a Koraidon LMAO I thought you were talking about urshifu
It's resisted.
I wanna run protect bolt but I'm running snarl for lunala
+3 156+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned Body Press vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Ho-Oh: 100-118 (46.9 - 55.3%) -- 74.22% chance to 2HKO
Like that's zero defense investment and max hp so it's wonky
Sorry 1 defense investment*
+3 156+ Def Sword of Ruin Zamazenta-Crowned Body Press vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Ho-Oh: 134-158 (62.9 - 74.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Sword of Ruin Body Press vs that is a lot meatier but again, not a great spread
252 Atk Sword of Ruin Tera Stellar Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Ho-Oh: 134-158 (62.9 - 74.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Bruh
I guess i just gonna do Miraidon Lando Pin-
dear Lord
252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 212 HP / 116 Def Ho-Oh: 97-115 (46.6 - 55.2%) -- 71.09% chance to 2HKO
That's the spread I'm using.
46-55 is a lot more agreeable but the spread is still not the best it could be. But still a lot fatter
Ho-Oh @ Clear Amulet
Ability: Regenerator
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 204 HP / 76 Atk / 156 Def / 4 SpD / 68 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Sacred Fire
- Brave Bird
- Tailwind
- Protect
I was using Pokeaim's spread
Really goated spread imo
Brave bird OHKOs Rillaboom
Unless they are like impish Rilla but that's non existent
220+ SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Landorus Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Tera Grass Ho-Oh: 117-140 (54.9 - 65.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Solid damage, if i do ummm
Volt Switch+Sludge Bomb
btw the call is careful ogerpon
Hearthflame or wellspring
Obviously not cornerstone lol
Says who
me and Alex Gómez
Funny
I said that earlier too
Oh so is it Impish now buddy or 
Idt the Tang's spread is bad for this format
Rockpon is still everywhere and CIR is annoying
Depends on what the team needs but I prefer having a stronger Miraidon MU lol
Why you run Adamant Rockpon 
Also italian players are now running Tang's team but with specs Miraidon instead of AV lmao
cuz hearthflame
jiji
Nah I just want to fish the crits
I saw some Grimm + Mirai comps
It helps
Also nuke Koraidon
Though usually those are Tera Fairy
Yeah Joey's team
Joey didn't have Grimm
Tho tbh I don't think Joey's team is good
He did
Eh it's aight
No
It was Hands Farig Bundle Mirai Ho Oh Treads
Oh wrong Joe
Oh you mean that Joey
That's Pokeaim for me lol
i am not gonna say a Joe mama joke-
Leave Joey's peepee outta this
LMO
no

I think Zama Mirai is broken
But someone needs to crack it right
I tested Lorenzo Arce's team and like it was okay
I just think QD Volc is ass
But it felt like something was lacking
QD Volc is like autowin into Zama CSR if played right
But into everything else is harder to pull out
I just prefer support there tbh
Also the sitrus berry generates some kind of like
Then again I've always preferred support Volc
Dilemma to me cause leftovers forces you to play way slower but sitrus berry its turned off by the Calyrexes
But yeah idt this reg is for QD Volc
Plz refrain from using that term like that in this server
Cool team for reg G Joey but let it go lol
i forgot to edit it
Iron crown spotted
used it since Last year's July
What does it do outside of psyspam
252 SpA Expert Belt Quark Drive Iron Crown Tachyon Cutter (2 hits) vs. 212 HP / 4 SpD Calyrex-Ice: 202-244 (100 - 120.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
it does something like this
"Fuck your trick room" ah calc
The bad thing about Crown is that like previous Koraidon teams would use it to patch MUs but now having CSR and Lunala it gets outclassed
Why use Imprison when you have a Metal Cobalion
How do you deal with indeedee
exactly
Bonk
+1 76+ Atk Hearthflame Mask Tera Fire Ogerpon-Hearthflame-Tera Ivy Cudgel vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Indeedee-F: 174-206 (98.3 - 116.3%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
Miraidon and Hearthflame not being besties anymore is heartbreaking
But dw they will come back and stronger
its fate but its more like Hands+Miraidon
Btw sorry to keep bringing it back to this but what would y'all say my team's main weakness is because I don't know what to prepare for outside of patching up my team against just the stuff I practice against
i mean there's a CSR so i can close 1 eye on Speed Control
but overall Dragon is a better Tera for Zama imo
That's why I'm kinda not running speed control because Zama doesn't care about taking hits and CSR/ursh outspeeds anything not in tw or scarf
or with My Miraidon
Fuck Arubega i am running with Kyogre
Fake out redirect can make up for it
WAIT IT DOES RESIST ELECTRIC DOESNT IT
And yeah dragon
doesn't Lando OHKO Zama
I'm so dumb I was running grass as a miraidon counter
Grass is only for rain comps
Yea
Dragon makes you weak to draco and dazzling but like
It also turns off zamas fire weakness which I've been struggling with
I don't think so surely
trade a SpA drop for Zama is fine imo cuz Draco can't Kill Rilla or CSR that way
also Encore on CSR is like the most common one now
u already know 
244+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Draco Meteor vs. 188 HP / 100 SpD Tera Grass Zamazenta-Crowned: 172-204 (90 - 106.8%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
And this was my super bulky Zama
Oh yea you're right innit
r u british
I ran scarf jolly shifu to take care of modest scarf lando
Briitish Alert
wait no-
I can't say that i live in uk
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Hmmmmmm. I feel like tera grass into miraidon is so strong though idk about it. I'm so used to piloting tera grass that's it's weird. It's also a powder move counter
Because the one that deals the most damage is modest and shifu just kills it
Could go with Pelipper
bri'ish
Has wide guard too and sets up the rain
anyways does Miraidon need Bulk on Specs set or just run 4/252/252 is fine-
Let me grab my reg G paste
For ursh?
Turns off the fire weakness that otherwise you could not play around
Ohhhh I see
And Pelipper is a strong mon for this comp
Mine?
Turns off the fire weakness for Zama and Amoonguss and boosts Urshifu's damage to insane levels
It can work for yours too
Rain+Surging Strikes+Tera Water is just Horrifying
Idk. I'm very not used to running weather but I'll see about it.
I tried that and it felt awful
It was the one used by Zeen
252+ Atk Tera Water Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 252 HP / 132 Def Kyogre in Rain on a critical hit: 105-126 (50.7 - 60.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Me issue but raaaah
Rain would turn off groudon and Koraidon
yes but rn Kyogre is in the back foot and i am running Miraidon Kyogre rn-
and even with opressive damage is kinda doesn't matter when Koraidon is so much better as a sun setter that it can beat Kyogre no problem sometimes
like Kyogre itself is a problem
I don't have too negative of a matchup into oger itself
Is 0 speed groudon like. Common at all
I wanna make sure peli gets weather up into groudon
I doubt it but usually Groudon aims to underspeed kyogre
I need a 28 Speed IV peli 
Groudon does like to pair with lunala so I can see Min speed groudon
Okay nevermind after calcing I'm a peli believer now
I'm not a sun believer anymore, seems like every other team has rain dance torn or trick room

What happened to my goat ...
I suck lol
why tf does only rb learn this
funny
do they want koraidon miraidon rb to be a team
or koraidon pinchurin lmfao
wait \
iron hands learns trick room???
imagine youre playing against hands and they click trick room HAHAH
oh nvm im dumb i searched it wrong it does not learn trick room
Poison
Grass
Bug, Electric, Flying, Normal, Psychic, Rock, Steel, Water
Dark, Dragon, Fairy, Fire, Ghost, Ice, Stellar
Fighting, Ground
Steel-types cannot be Poisoned.
Steel-types take no damage from Sandstorm.
It what
Feels like I'm losing more than I win though
thats fine lol
lose some win some anyway
Aaah water is scary
Real
Win some lose most is how I live
-8ball do I go to Melbourne
do I go to Melbourne
:8ball: Outlook good
i just go with the flow honestly
literally-
Flow state
i need to train myself to stop playing games on autopilot
i mean i play Rain so
Way too easy to just go brain dead and start clicking buttons
Must be nice 😔
Actually sun is the better Archetype rn
With Koraidon yeah
Kyogre is on backfoot
good lord Miraidon has decent Synergy with Kyogre
Basically like ZacOgre but Electric Type
I remember one time people said Mirai Ogre is like bad in double res cuz we are still in the Discharge Era
yeah feels like it right
it does kinda look like they get destroyed by riilla boom tho lmao
i really want to try something like this
not really
fair enough ive been meaning to try miraiogre for a bit
its more like people overcomplicating things
wdym?
i seen people tried a lot of different things
on Mirai Ogre and doesn't work as well
i seen very few that has Torn
Trick Room is Optional
tf? why wouldnt you 100% bleakwind is like half the reason i want to run kyogre
idk they have problems
btw wyt of icy wind torn
ive been trying it out on a very like defensive team its felt pretty good
How good y’all think miraidon zamazenta is rn?
They're really amazing and powerful!
Do you think this duo holds up to miraidon and cir/lunala?
Yup!
why is everyone running this
Because it's a really strong and perfect team!
Popular CSR Zam variant that won an online tour, though it's kinda meh imo
tried it
Its horrible speed control
That’s crazy
its kind of like
you tailwind opp tailwind
you icy wind
but actually after trying it a bit more if i dont need rain id rather have protect tbh
tera fire too
bro hates amoongus?
thats my guess
holy bro is cookin
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2363782714
THE LAND T SWEEP
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between dhduehehb and k4x2! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2025 Reg I; Date: May 14, 2025
lol these teams are hilarious
why is zoroark there every mon has an ability that activates upon entry😭
except zard
Is cresselia any good in Reg I or is there anyone I could use instead if not?
💀
farigiraffe/indeedee does much more
it does as well 
How so? I don't really know what cresselia does just yet
it activates on move use?
nah it like shows a lil "solar power" indicator thing
cresselia is tanky but thats kinda about all it does
farigiraffe and indeedee have priorty blocking which counters one of the main ways people get around trick room
oh and cresc has worse typing
eh if you like it i guess lol
Ah yeah pure Psychic being weak to ghost
one of the things that makes fari/dee so good is being immune to astral barrage imo
the only way to stop it is ig taunt
or one shotting it lol
Yeah I use indeedee on my current team and it does rlly good
what tf
That would be pain
youd catch me deaaad
ohohoh ! @real prairie for naic i played through hgss for shiny 0atk kyogre and then got a buncha ribbons & the living legend ribbon on it so she gets to be a special baby
Nice work!!
look at her so pretty
pink feesh
I'd be convicted for murder if this happened to me
EMMA
HAI
0 iv on Attack and Shiny is really rare! Congratulations on getting it!
Shes a sea sink?!
What you mean
What is rng stuff?
look at my plat ID it has cute charm on it asw :3
Bnuuy moment
Congrats! Are you using it in a tournament?
How you gonna get those back to SV?
Isn't Pokémon Bank still running?
ms emma has transporter and bank
it's running indefinitely
i
It’s still running but getting it was “officially” shutdown
just lost to tera fairy tyranitar, fuck bo1
@craggy dagger NOOOOOOO I OVERSHOTTED ON THE SPEED
So like does close combat vs collision course on Koraidon matter that much?
lorb for Close Combat and yes it does
So go combat over course? Does the stat drops not end up mattering all that much?
this team reached 3 in the bo3 ladder but i keep losing with it, what gives?
What happened 😭
@craggy dagger HAI BESTIE 
i was planning to Build Hyacine (New sustain in HSR, she needs at least 200 speed out of combat)
And i was gonna meet 222 (CSR’s Max Speed) or 205 (Koraidon and Miraidon’s Max Speed) in level 50
But i overshotted by 2 speed
Which Pokémon is Hyacine?
@spiral ridge share playlist i like your music lol
gmorning 
How did you-
I just sent someone a song and your ass pings
Gimme one sec there’s some songs I’ve been meaning to remove 😭
Sorry I didn't know Hyacine wasn't a Pokémon..
she is a new character in a Gacha Game called Honkai Star Rail
you can just call her human Sylveon
Fuck idk if it updated to stuff I removed but here https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5GWBmx8qE3HccDm0Ng0Vle?si=Qx3fHj2mT1OVycOZje_j_A&pi=d8VE8Fb8SpuWU
K it seems it did cool
A band I was getting tired of was in here way too much lol
Uhh there’s no solid genre so I recommend shuffle 😭
I’m looking for a last team member for bd for this team Electivire
Ability: Motor Drive
Tera Type: Electric
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Wild Charge
- Fire Punch
- Brick Break
- Rock Slide
Honchkrow
Ability: Moxie
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 248 HP / 252 SpA / 8 SpD
Modest Nature
- Dark Pulse
- U-turn
- Heat Wave
- Air Slash
Garchomp
Ability: Rough Skin
Tera Type: Dragon
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Earthquake
- Dragon Claw
- Iron Head
- Poison Jab
Metagross
Ability: Clear Body
Tera Type: Steel
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Bullet Punch
- Iron Head
- Zen Headbutt
- Ice Punch
Gyarados
Ability: Intimidate
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Waterfall
- Crunch
- Ice Fang
- Iron Head
This is for bd
What last mon y'all think should work in this team? https://pokepast.es/df410d09ca9a6e27
Incineroar is always a good option
What format?
I was thinking about it, but I just feel like it would be way too generic, yn? Do you have any other ideas?
Nothing wrong with generic
Just feel like everyone would’ve prepped for it
I mean CSR Pagos is already generic as hell 
I really have nothing else tbh
I think Incineroar is just the best bet
It’s for bd story
Oh then just use whatever you want
https://x.com/TorrentAegisVGC/status/1922709074409320642
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Well Then,Guess i'll do it myself.
Miraidon+Kyogre needs Attention anyway so why not i'll be the pioneer.
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also wait i hashtagged something wrong lmao
I just want to cover my team weaknesses
Well if you have Torterra then that's what I'd say but otherwise I have no clue
So a grass type?
Ye
But wouldn’t be better to have a sp grass becouse I have 4 other type
I guess though it's just the story so it really don't matter lol
Would the first gen grass starter be better?
What is the most consistent build for the ace tournament? Finally got a turbo controller and I want to put it to use
Sure
@forest arrow you there man? Idk the Ace strat now
Wait what about the best grass type in that gen
Tbh idr what all Pokemon are in that game
Rosarade
That'll work
isn't that not in the game
Idfk
Yep
i am not beating Fake Gen 4 fan allegations lmao
I’m just doing that game for one Pokémon
which one?
The shiny god
ah Arceus
Dunno if I got an answer for this; if it helps, I'm specifically looking at for for after the dlc TwT
What you mean
What's the new Academy Ace strat
Kyurem W with metronome
It has a certain spread, I’d look it up on YouTube
Nvm I guess it’s just 252 252
Please ping me in the future, i don't have alerts on for this channel. TwT
I'll double check, tysm!
In what stats are those in?
Ice beam
eregore has given 1 Gen Rep to throwdatahh
?
Sorry I was gonna ping you
I was asking someone who knew
All good! Ty anyways! :D
And ty Throw!
You gave Gen Rep too recently. You can give Gen Rep again <t:1747251620:R>.
You’re welcome just caught me off guard cause I didn’t know who you were and you told me to ping you, I didn’t know you were asking for it lol I just got off work
Nice to meet you tho, hope that helps you
Ntmyt!
Also, what personality?
Modest
OK, so quick question. I understand that if I hyper train pokemon, I can't send it to bdsp without it being lv 100. Does this only apply to bdsp origin pokemon or other origin pokemon also?
nah thats the certain spread tho 
252 252 gets too much hate

im unsure wat ur asking here
some games require different lvls to hyper train, it was standard it was lvl 100 b4 sv where u only need lvl 50
Hope no one clicked that
🤨
Funny little scam link

Brother loves clicking the sus links

💀
Been waiting on u
what 
contacted one of them and she asked for whatever a social security number and credit card informations(??) is should i give it to her i think it might bag me a date
Yeah bro don't forget to give her your mother's maiden name /j
Holy hell how long does it take to find an opponent on cart at beginner rank lmao
Well we got into our first match and lunala swept their whole team as my only mon left
Expanding force in psychic terrain go brr
nice 🙂
Sir did the video on your team ever come out?
Put my two week's notice in at my job. 💪
How y'all think this team could be generally improved? https://pokepast.es/325b02d25c4a5d4d Also feel like it should be particularly weak against TR
Protect on a Cloak mon?
Scratch that, you even have Protect on Specs Mir
Copied the wrong set, what happen was I copied my lorb spread, and just forgot to change the moves. About protect on whims, just thought I had few protects on the team, but also got it to be taunt now
here, fixed it https://pokepast.es/0051c3ffaeac7b5f
Having Wide Guard on Pelipper could be good since CIR can't do anything to it

