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id say his objectively did more then urs
i guess the idea is just to spam floral healing
tru tru
jus cuz it looks weird doesnt mean it didnt have its use
esm is known for wacky teams but he pilots them well
yea i was looking at its stuff looks awesome
Thank you Zacian
Ground/Rock
Lightning Rod, Rock Head, Reckless (Hidden)
105/130/120/45/45/40
485
like an anti csr im guessing
What
anti mirai
and mirai
7-1 so far on new alt
but underspeeding csr with rock slide is good too right
?
Bo1 or Bo3?
bo1 i'm testing it in bo1 first
Fair
After Zacian missed 2 Play roughs in a row and somehow winning I clutched the game 3
conner if its not bo3: 
yeah covert cloak volcarona was fun
And also I missed 2 play roughs and then got to win
+2 252+ Atk Rhydon Rock Slide vs. 244 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Ice Rider: 150-176 (72.8 - 85.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO ehhhh
bo1 is nice cuz you can just insta requeue and play a bunch of different teams and interactions
also you dont have to like play through up to 3 matches lol
8-1 now
where the bo1 ots ladder smh
REAL THO
OTS is just half the knowledge though
its more like an anti bullshit filter lol
yk it woul be nice if you got to like plan your matches out with opp team sheet like well before match started
in tournaments
but ig that would taketoo long
9-1, and i'm barely using jumpluff
Yeah that's one of the logistical problems with that idea. Because you'd have to set a time limit and extend the tournament by that limit multiplied by number of matches
It would be exponentially longer
Plus, enough time with a team sheet may enable you to crack it and part of the skill is adapting to information on the fly
You have opp's team sheet for the duration of the round and can take notes. So that's all fine
9-2 now
rip
3 Ls now
4 Ls
stop while you still can 
5Ls ig this team ain't working
its just tilt bro dont give up
when starting a losing streak, take a break to clear your mind
otherwise, you might start to see that streak get bigger
mindset is a huge part of battling.
why am i losing so much, i'm not gonna use jumpluff anymore
6Ls goddamn i thought this team was good
Take a moment to see why you lost. What could you have done differently. Maybe different leads? Different moves?
i thought calyrex got shown up at milwaukee
could have targeted caly shadow with urshifu
FULL GAS
WE LOVE LOSING
Tilt climbs are so real 😔
both times i led lunala when i should have led urshifu against caly s
Leading isn't your fault
its pretty much rng yeah
Like honestly leading is the most out of your control aspect
thats kinda the problem with my team rn like if they lead their tailwind setter it pretty much insta wins if i lead roaring moon and wheezing
but if i lead anything else i INSTA lose lol
yay i won one
whats the team btw?
Goat
I had to see this masterpiece now you do to
Losing on ladder isn't just the team not working. A lot of factors go into that and everyone seems to forget they're also playing against another living, thinking human being
You can play perfectly and still lose
i've won 3 in a row now so it's just teething problems ig
You can't win every game. Some of the best players in multiple competitive fields hover around a 65% to 75% win rate
Currently stretching my brain thin at work. I'm building a class mod for Baldur's Gate 3
Between that and VGC I am doing way too much thinking lately.
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2357937582 damn csr gets FUCKED by brute bonnet and chi yu combo
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between tunapretzels and k4x2! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2025 Reg I; Date: May 6, 2025
even like the best case scenario with that start
i shouldve saved tera for zama
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2357936336 i was in a bad spot but somehow won
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between aljanah and GroudonMyNerves! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2025 Reg I; Date: May 6, 2025
damn just lost to psyspam, feels bad
lost to dozo, man
Doesn't seem too unsurprising that something 4x weak to dark may struggle against two dark mons with the right position xD
Seems fine
they got a double protect, i'm fucking tilted
im hoping the weekends results means more Miraidon during Grand Challenge and less of that damn horse 🤣
The rise of Lando
I'm hoping like the last couple tournies, the ladder doesn't reflect whats actually being brought
maybe bo1 is inaccurate
even back for B'ham, i was terrified of Zama's and only faced the one with it being quite low in the restricted #s
it was all over ladder
Zamarider is all over BO3 too
just lost to tr terapagos with lunar blessing cresselia
now lost to tr dialga with kyogre and ursaluna man this team sucks
Gotta stop overreacting bro
Do you genuinely believe just calling your team ass and then not really thinking about why the losses occurred is productive cause this is more of an emotional tantrum than anything
ok maybe but it's still upsetting, i was losing way less than with the other team
Leaning into piloting a new team can often lead to more losses to begin with, at least in my experience.
Then learn to control your emotions.
Stop playing if you're getting upset
What's the point
Ah something I wish i could have told myself during OG MW2 era or Peak Fifa days 🤣
forcing myself to play 40 games of Fifa over 2 days for something called "weekend league" and getting tilted at each loss, memories!
i forgot that moongeist beam ignores sturdy
People often lose sight of the fact that they're not the only factor in control of a game
Does it really? learn something new
Yeah it functions like mold breaker
you always forget that sturdy gets ignored by random shit
I feel like people know what to expect from jumpluff
i mean duh
It got good results
My team struggles against hard tr
my team is good until the regional just ended
so i am just making edits which is pretty limited cuz Mirai Ogre
Hey guys, someone has an idea about the ev spread from the Milwaukee regional winning team with miraidon + lunala?
i'm screwed am i lmao
GASP
moongeist beam ignores unaware too btw
so if you have a MU with dozo just click that instead
good to know ty
it ignores everything cuz its super Mold Breaker
My team coming to TGC pocket
i'm still waiting for my GC team to be drawn ;-;
lost to tera fire zamazenta
now i lost to fucking tera water incineroar
What was bro cooking hello
my team does suck though
Hard sun seems difficult to pilot when you're weather countered or locked out of it
it's not even that
idk why but i'm just massively struggling with bo1 rn, welcome btw
Cheers 
Thank you for the knowledge about Scarf ursh and sash caly
I'm feeling better about this now
your team is solid
I can't believe adamant scarf ursh outspeeds max speed caly
It's getting there
I'm thinking of doubling my flutter as a trick room counter
this is normal
Oh fr
mhmm
is it to stop burn
water incin?
How does that work? Water incin wouldn't be burn immune would it
is what i was replying to but, its usually paired with rocky helmet to make ursh eat like 6 rocky helmet sets of chip
Oh so true actually
personally atm im big fan of tera bug incin
Whats that for?
fight & ground resist
thats a Genuine Tera type lmao
like one of the more reasonable tera for Incin
I'm just too used to tera ghost I forget people run anything else
Showdown ladder brainrot
🫡
bo1 ladder is brainrot, like how common is tera fire brute bonnet
Better matchup into csr and has better bulk than amoongus
i hate cts
Yo same
play bo3
Hey I'm looking for some input on this flutter set. I've been running a booster speed icy wind flutter for a while and I like it but I wanna improve my trick room matchup so I wanna run either trick room or tr+imprison on it but I'm not sure what to do about my offensive moves.
If I run TR I can keep moonblast shadow ball but if I run imprison I'm gonna have to sacrifice one of them. At the same time I'm questioning if I should keep icy wind either way because speed control is less of an issue
i don't think my team is very good
if you're gonna run imprison use a different mon tbh, flutter is too frail
Yeaaa I'd have to drop protect I guess so it'd make survival hard
wouldn't taunting the tr mon be the better solution
they usually have redirection, best thing to do is run spread
just ran into a solar blade dgleam overheat miraidon wtf
what Elo?
not suprising
koraidon and miraidon
i guess singles players got into the VGC and uses Solar Beam Miraidon in there lmao
miraidon should never have overheat
do not imprison tr on flutter
I suppose but also double tr lead is ass

also, not sure, is it a good idea to run both flutter and caly shadow?
actually it was dgleam that Miraidon doesn't need cuz without spread Miraidon is easier to manage
i'm sorry but overheat solar beam miraidon is wack
its CTS bullshit and don't care too much
i won anyway
you can cuz you can run Tera Normal Flutter and thunder wave is a bit-
I don't see too big of an issue because I've never really run into that big of a ghost weakness but I see your point
Maybe imprison tr farig?
I wish farig got taunt man...
just have a TR mode and you are fine for the team
cuz my team is HO but i still have TR mode against TR teams
My team wouldn't really function in trick room
I don't really like running mix room either
Oh CSR Zama
Most original team of the year
https://pokepast.es/e81bc3c586cae179 heres the paste before ive made any real adjustments
I wanna test scarf ursh and sash csr
what is grass for
mmmmm TR mode can work with it ig-
Or just run Clefairy After you with CSR to ensure you get first prio even in TR
On the Zama? Ground and Fighting weakness and powder immunity. I used it in reg G and got success with it
Also helps against water teams mainly kyogre but I haven't really needed it much for that matchup
Plus ice beam exists so thats a bit of a moot point
they just become neutral, amoonguss isnt rly around rn bc of how much miraidon there is
What would you say I run?
that and u cant tera out of koraidon
Dragon?
Its more like Bonnet and you
basically Body Press it
dragon or ghost
csr zam w/ ghost zam is the only variant that gave me trouble at milwaukee tbh
What does ghost zama do?
ignore fake out and stops Koraidon from Killing you
Oh yea for fighting immunity and fire neutral
facade immunity that isn’t weak to ground✨
I love TR ursa
Emma look i found a Galarian Rowlet
For this I'm thinking of just subbing out flutter for maybe farig with imprison tr? Either that or if I wanna maintain speed control I can run Tailwind taunt Torn
ohmahgah
i need to look at why i'm losing and make adjustments
i kinda want to try screens groudon
tomorrow i'm gonna reread vgc guide to see if i can finally understand it
I'm scared
I have questions can non AV groudon with max spdef survive choice spec modest draco meteor from miraidon ? just want to know before i learn it the hard way
Best way to find that out would be to calc it
252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Draco Meteor vs. 8 HP / 252+ SpD Assault Vest Groudon: 129-153 (73.2 - 86.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
annoyed i lost to tera dark covert cloak caly shadow earlier
Ignore the 8 hp I just misinput it but yea it'd barely survive
If you need to live just one hit then sure
Tera dark isn't uncommon isn't it
I mean without assault vest
Ah alright then good too know i guess i don't need to worry much if i go against groudon and bring out miraidon
https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/ heres my preferred calc if you'd like to reference this in future
Noted
I like this one cause it lets you save calcs and it's got a lot of in depth nobs you can tweak
So with this i just need too check if my openent groudon have AV or not intimidate should be good way too know
i love raging bolt
so ridiculously tanky
RAAAAAAH (Raging Bolt) @ Leftovers
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 244 HP / 68 Def / 100 SpA / 84 SpD / 12 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 20 Atk
- Thunderclap
- Calm Mind
- Draco Meteor
- Protect
My baby
AV is probably better on bolt, it can survive most things with AV
I like calm mind bolt a lot
It's fun. This thing can get away with an unreasonable amount. It's so tanky and outputs so much damage
CM Bolt is a lot more insufficient rn
Really?
This was a reg g spread I made. I'm not using it anymore I just really liked this spread
cm bolt kinda goated
My boy I love my long neck friend
Yeah but right now?
unsure ive yet to use it this reg
itll come across my builder some day
for now im csr gaming
Ma'am
Zam CSR kinda ass
nuh uh thats my ride or die right there (is it actually)
who said it was zam lol
Yeah no I'm just saying LOL
I tried it
Feels awful
It feels strong from my experience
Zama is really strong to live a lot and output damage and csr is csr. It kinda just feels like two good things together
look dm mink e
Yeah well a lot of people have prepped for that duo so
It does not feel too great when a lot of teams can just oof
@chrome knot me hungy, what eat
pizza
I have no idea what to run now
pizza?
Wish I could have pizza rn
Lol that don't sound bad
But I got another idea
I go get crossaint sandwich
From family owned business
Let's go 
Hop in my car
That may or may not have a Grookey
That a girl at my Dutch Bro's said looked like the Duolingo owl
pfft
How did it boost so much
Quiver dance ig
That do be what it do
Mirai Groudon
Don't think I'll go to Melbourne, I'm really struggling atm
Well I'm definitely scrapping that team but then I need to read vgc guide and try and understand how to build a solid team
Is this your first time going to any kind of event?
No I went to Brisbane but I'm not feeling confident at all, the meta seems really difficult atm
Honestly yea,,,
Any team I build struggles with either tr or tailwind and idk how to fix it
And miraidon just Dracos Groudon whenever I send it out
Maybe I'll feel better after sleeping
I'm upset about losing to covert cloak calyrex shadow which is an item that basically nobody runs
Honestly thats just. The ladder special
I think I need sleep and I'll feel better when I wake up
I'm very casual about vgc and I'm just looking to have fun and learn. I'm very much so anticipating there to be a lot more normalised strategies at melb
Yeah from my experience at Brisbane there were a lot of proven teams
I just tried bo3 ladder for the first time because uh
I've been doing a lot of bo1
And no one on there likes ots
I'll go back to the drawing board and try bo3 again
Try bo3 because if forces ots (I think) and also because it's easier to make adjustments
I'll have to practice there more idk why I've been so adamant about bo1
Have a good sleep, I hope you feel refreshed tomorrow
Ty good luck with your testing
Thanks!
Very
VERY few
Run that
Anyways I'd just go
Have fun with the event anyways bro
only edited Kyogre into Meta and not Meta+ cuz it got gutted so hard
groudon in meta feels like an enormous stretch
yeah we don't want any Groudon Copers to be seething
Non crowned zacian made day 2 in Milwaukee put him bottom of niche
It was Vijay Sood, shit don't count
I got 6th place at the Milwaukee Regional this weekend with Iron Bundle and Iron Treads!
Team ID: YTY8H5
Pokepaste: https://t.co/yTbbyaD2Zg
Rental team
Joey said tera ghost treads also works but in my experience yeah tera ground goes crazy too
And as personal recomendation use ice beam on bundle instead of freeze dry its way batter
It's a fantastic Trick Room matchup inverter
What are you saying?
It's slower Sun setter so like
There's that but I don't think that redeems it
huh?
It's still definitely not meta
groudon’s kinda the epitome of awkward speed mons
Eh it works in tr modes
Hell I'd say Ho Oh is meta too
Ho-Oh is meta
yeah
Yeah but like
You'd run your TR mode
This is my tier list
I'm gonna say what no one else will
Lunala over CSR until proven otherwise
Oh CSR could prove otherwise
But rn
Lunala imo is dominating way more than CSR
I do respect you though
For putting Rayquaza where he belongs
this
if we look at reg i only with no reg g context lunala >>>
yea there’s only been one regional but it’s true nonetheless
Anyways back to what I was saying
Groudon is slower so TR is not as bad for it, but as a "MU inverter" or whatever
I wouldn't say that cuz most the stuff you're going against in terms of TR MUs will be slower than Groudon so it's mainly you using TR yourself for money faster than Groudon
And it is definitely not meta
yes ?
Groudon would be low anti meta if we're generous imo
Then again it's a tierlist so
There are opinions to it
what’s your point
as in how is groudon a tr mu inverter
?
It means explain it
You didn't even explain it sir
this is very shitty ragebait
calm down
you could have asked me to explain it instead of just answering huh
They did?
words can be used to communicate, we aint sutck in the caveman period bud
monke also asked you to explain it before
Ok we don't need to throw out insults
which makes it kinda redundant for me to say it again
How does it do that though is my question
Are you familiar with trick room ?
Yes I know what TR does
yea this
so if you are so called familiar, what is it you do not get ?
groudon is not gonna help against caly ices or ursalunas under TR
Thing is if you're getting outsped by all these things, how is it even a "MU inverter"
yeah you are not familiar with such matchups
its a shame you are labeled as competitive helper, you'd expect more knowledge
156+ Atk Quark Drive Iron Hands Low Kick (120 BP) vs. 188 HP / 92 Def Groudon: 102-120 (51.2 - 60.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
what😭😭😭
good enough imo
Well you aren't explaining shit, you're just telling me idk what I'm talking about
And we're asking for an explanation
i am disengaging from your toxic attitude, dont need that in my life
matchups such as? you say such matchups then refuse to elaborate, i can guarantee you everyone here knows about TR stats
Ok, cool, have a good life
lol
that wasn't even toxic
If Monke is Toxic then wtf is Tofu
Don't engage guys
food
but tofu isnt toxic normally
are all competitive helpers just amateurs that have been on server for a while like dollarmonke ?
ngl dude post elo
Brother
The insults are unnecessary
lmao
are you on pro circuit ?
cause dollarmonke is not a name I know
dillion is a competiive helper and just got 2nd place at the most recent regional what do you mean
No
Are you?
Yotam is literally world Champion and i got humbled already by him
Idk why you have to bring that up
I know, thats why I ask. I know some competitive helpers are genuinely good at the game while some others had to ask to get the title xDD
Why are you always trying to instigate when you are online
keyboard warrior lol
if people would be a bit nicer would help
i say one comment and people lose their shit
section should be chill and welcoming
not antagonize peeps
that's the type of thing someone would say after spitting nonsense ngl
@atomic mural @foggy lodge Let the mods do their jobs I'm having a snack
okay
👍
anyways Delaying the Mirai Ogre rental cuz big changes gonna show
why the need to antagonize so much
Stop engaging
See here's my question
shouldnt start a war
i am disengaging from your toxic attitude in specific
shoulda asked it 1st
I'm tryna engage in a competitive discussion
iron hands is insane lmao
Which is this channel
so why all the drama ?
i always said Groundon is my TR matchup inverter
if you are familiar about speed control
middle speed tier is good on heavy speed control team
Ok
I just said my opinion which is that I think it's better if you have your own TR button as other TR teams will have slower mons
And I was tryna ask you why you had your side of the argument, which is what I just got
Thank you for that
This is what I wanted
To converse about our opinions on the matter
yes and you invert matchup into slower TR teams
but you didnt get how TR inverting works ?
if you use the move Trick Room while Trick Room is active, it stops working
I don't get how Groudon inverts that against slower Pokemon
That is unless you're using another Pokemon to reverse TR
Thats why i ask if you were familiar with trick room, you werent familiar with the inverting mechanic
Oh I was with that
Now that makes more sense
I just didn't see how Groudon himself does that
You think I bring only 1 Mon to a VGC battle ?!?!
No
I'm just saying the way the statement was, it sorta looked like that which is why I was confused and asked for reasoning
Read somewhere but just wanted to confirm, if I have a 1 speed IV on my calyrex will it still speed tie other calyrex with 0 speed iv
Basically yeah
1 IV is basically 0 IV
Bet ty 
Sure
Though for future reference if you're ever unsure, you can just use the Showdown teambuilder and change the IVs/EVs of stuff to compare
if you want to you can also use Damage Calculator to mess with the EVs first before doing battles @lean ridge
Yea I’ve played around with some of those specifically just to try and survive specs miraidon edrifts 😭 it’s definitely a useful tool
Unless you take away terrain that is basically gonna be impossible
Yep 😭
even with a resistance you can't live a Double Up most of the time
silly lizard goes spinnnnnnn and turns into a battery nuke
also i have different idea for Mirai Ogre to combat against this meta rn
since im not in that server anymore i havent kept up with your mirai ogre progress at all but good shit dude id love to hear about it
what if we throw away trick room Mode and stick an Aventurine in the team
grimm kyo is great together so yeah
aven means people take no hp damage so i thought you meant hard redirect loo
screens also makes lotta sense
What if I say hey stinky and shove you back in that bitch cuz I can
if someone talks there im good, if not id more than love to
its still alive and well
my goat is @chrome knot
real
dillon and emma top vgc goats
she snoozing rn i think so she can come try and refute this later

mimimimimimimimi
she would snore like that
O.o
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between MorrisPXG456 and noob4life927! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2025 Reg I; Date: May 7, 2025
mika whats yhe naic call
I want to build a Team for my First (And possibly Last) Ranked Season using some of my favs while also competively trained. Any thoughts on what I have so far?
https://pokepast.es/2a113ffa2f40e7c4
Starts with Gal setting up Sticky and Light
And really depends on Enemy Comp
I've done Showdown before with good teams
But I feel like I wanna try something different
i rather you go for Grimmsnarl since Entry Hazards are so niche that it does not work well
and it has both screens
K
also Wait
Anything goes?
Are you doing BSS or VGC-
I've never done Ranked in Violet ever before.
Either Shiny Hunting or playing Competitive on Showdown
BSS is singles
VGC is Doubles
even in singles standards your team is in a tightpole position-
whats the naic call
Reg I singles must be interesting
has to be one of the Calys i belive
Any options I could use?
mirai good
why.
I'm gonna use it, but if it seems my team is a bit weak
honestly just the top 5 are potential NAIC calls
u could set up the web then sweep with specs mirai prob
Any changes to my current team?
it needs an Overhaul
I really want to use Clawitzer so badly.

hydreigon feels very underpowered for the format
if you are using Mirai Dusk Mane then i think Moxie Boosted has a Team for that in doubles anyway
so does necrozma dusk mane
idk much about singles but munchstats does https://munchstats.com/gen9bssregi/1760/Miraidon maybe have a look at this and try to build off those mons and sets
yeah outside of well being slightly better in Movepool (Offensively) than Solgaleo
I don't see it work well
Solgaleo doesn't even have a Physical Set up move lmao
tera electric tera blast chien pao being the most common set for it in singles is so funny to me
singles likes its boltbeam
its somewhat good in singles but like rn i'm just trying to cook absolute cinema of a team rn in Doubles
was trying something like Miraidon Groudon and CSR Pagos but yes i returned to Mirai Ogre
and all it took is to throw away the trick room mode
and make sure Kyogre is still slower than Lunala in TR
what core/team of six are u working with rn
mirai ogre seems fun i imagine you’ve made further changes post milwaukee
Mirai Ogre
Tornshifu
Originally Hands P2 but now its Grimm Lando
Lunala Ho-Oh
ears are plugged
Ok I've been thinking
Mika trolling
Sorry, I'm like neck deep in trying to figure out building this mod. 
im trying out dillon’s team rn on showdown
Not even slightly.
I'll go with Dusk Mane + Mirai
i have most of the team built on cart already bc i was using dillon’s six but valiant over rockpon
And I have no idea for others
i need to change everything to make my team presentable lol
How's Ribombee?
Building a new class for Baldur's Gate 3. It's called Bullet Saint
It is... a learning experience, for sure.
ah ok
I've been playing Pokeaim's team
good luck
I like the team but yesterday I ranted about losing to a Rhydon lmao
LMAO
Not so much luck as having to learn Osiris scripting and a whole new piece of software.
I genuinely get bullied by Rhydon with that team
rhydon ):<
They clicked tera fairy swords dance with rhydon and tr with CIR and I clicked forfeit
technically my team should wash Rhydon
Ha get it
Which Pokémon learns forfeit?
Me
Thanks!
level up, tm?
Just play Metronome - that's as good as forfeit
Egg move
metronome battles on showdown are fun
@foggy lodge Calyrex Shadow Rider be like for everyone
True
When both players are committed to Metronome. But when only one player is, it's a bloodbath
i think me and my homies did that and its an experience
it takes like 15 minutes to find a game but it’s worth jt
until your pokemon explodes in front of two ghost types
I'm starting to think my team won't go as good.
your team really needs an Overhaul singles or doubles
Clawitzer can stay but you have to know that it does not do as much as Urshifu
this is why u never jump straight into teambuilding
Found my Old OU Team, anything good from it?
https://pokepast.es/2e2d4ba182c52e94
Don't know how it old was.
not really lol
Pretty sure it was before Indigo Disk released.
nowhere good
i feel like with reg I the pool of viable mons has dropped significantly, not sure if thats actually the case though
not really
it opens some mon to be stronger in double res like Ho-Oh and Brute Bonnet who has been picking up during late reg G
but rn the meta counter play is to deal as much damage as fast as possible
ho-oh wasnt really ran as much as it is now. good double restricted. groudon too. because these pokemon dont need to be the centerpiece of the team, it can be added to more teams
cause before it was match up dependant on which restricted you used in reg g
I love doing the latter for shits and giggles
One of the guys I met in another server every now and then makes a singles rental that's just Metronome
lets go gambling
Me AF
so tru
Munchlax learns metronome 
jus get p2 to do it for u

Mr Tree 

I saw the Warriors won the series
where hav u been
You think that's gonna be enough for them to keep Jimmy Butler for say.....
Another month 
Also did the semifinals start?
yes 
pacers up 2-0 on cavs
nuggets up 1-0 on thunder
knicks up 1-0 on celtics
OH DAMN I BEEN SLEEPING LIKE A MFER
genuinely
Wait
Nuggets up on Thunder?
u missed some good games
aaron gordon hit a game winning 3 in g1
so yes
Oh I was finna say ain't no way that wasn't close
Actually it's funny
Thunder actually have a fair shot this playoffs LMAO
?
Yeah just a casual jog while he's dreaming about his horses y'know
they r the favs
hes a monster
I mean yeah
But remember years ago when they started rebuilding or whatever
if voter fatigue didnt exist he deserves another mvp this year
dude the rebuilds over
they been #1 in the west b2b years now
Right I know
And the rebuild paid off like a mfer
Yeah
Did the 76ers do anything with the guy speaking of PG13 or
Ummmmmm
Just looked it up
24-58
Idk brother 
it sucks
cuz embiid is generational
he just cant sustain
id play him like 50 games tops for a szn
Oh yeah isn't Embiid one of the guys that can't stay healthy
nd hope thats enough
Or am I thinking of someone else
Ok sorry my knowledge is a little rusty there
but similar to like a bynum but obviously more talented
Ooh yeah Greg Oden was bad
and he was another extremely good player wen he could play
but like he had such limited chances before his body just broke down
But yeah no Embiid mmm
Weird though with 76ers cuz like then again yeah PG kinda washed
Embiid has those problems so that just leaves Maxey
realistically u let george walk
hope to shore up depth weaknesses with the salary opened up
Yeah but he's got like what
3-4 years left on his contract?
and rest embiid enough in the regular season
i forgot he signed with them
yea they are fucked
i feel like i'm too young to watch Sports event and actuaally discuss it throughly lol
i misremembered i thought he was an expiring contract
i mean u gta actually watch it to be able to discuss it thoroughly lmao
or atleast keep up with it
yeah but like indepth i probably can't
also for me like
i played basketball so
def makes it easier in that regard to know wats happening
i used to play basketball but i need to focus on my academic stuff so i quit that
during like what 10
and i am not too much of a sports guy now
its kinda like watching Regionals i belive
Yeah no it was a signed contract
or like my younger brother who watches almost all Manchester City Football matches
Either 4 or 5 years I don't remember exactly
yea 4 years i looked it up
I also don't remember
Hell might have to look it up, he might also have a no trade clause
76ers are fucked
Y'know what's fucked
Isn't Embiid's contract still low as balls
at least they’re not the suns right
not like they’re much better but it could be worse i guess
first try so u know shes just goated 
nah suns are definitely in an awful spot
only no trade clause itl is beal iirc
76ers have atleast like maxey and shit
unless you’re talking about him
hopefully mccain comes back well
would’ve been roty most likely
Really?
o wait i think lebron has one
yea
but it’s not like lebron is getting traded at this point in his career
Yeah at first I was surprised that peeps like LeBron or Curry might not have one but it's kinda like a given on them LOL
as a heat fan im glad we didnt trade for beal that one offseason
that would’ve cooked the roster for a while
i just thought of something
mirai kyogre power herb archaladon will do like a billion damage no
Eh? Don't mind me I'm dumb
My brain is fried from all that today. Now I'm at work
I hate mental exhaustion. It's like a ton of static up there right now. Just too much information for a 24 hour period D:
just sleep ez strat
? i was jus makin a joke cuz p2 is a virtual mon
so it is essentially code itself
ontop of the fact its actual code being part of a video game

now that i'm actually sitting down to study the meta rather than complaining about surprises, i feel better about things
give groudon a physical 100% accurate ground move that's based on hp like kyogre has
quick what would u call it
Balancing
the mirai/lunala core is looking more tempting by the day
It sure is
Ahh I was thinking that but I didn't wanna say it and sound stupid either lmfao
I'd sleep if I didn't have to work overnight
But it has definitely left my head burnt the hell out.


Hey uhm. Does anyone have any advice for dealing with lunala trick room
Because I get fucking rocked by lunala
I get so rocked by lunala and I don't know what to do with that thing
I'm thinking taunt booster speed flutter
What's the team you're working with?
https://pokepast.es/c32ae9091e400030 You can kinda ignore the flutter I'm uhming and ahing what to do with that slot
How about tera normal imprison flutter
Ehhhhh I don't really wanna run imprison flutter
Amoongus might help. They wouldn't want to set up TR for the shroom
it's moreso like. I have to deal with trick room and then also I have to deal with killing it and I have no good answer to kill it honestly
Like I have no good way to safely kill lunala
I like that idea. The amoonguss pressure is a good deterent but what is bro doing on this team aside from that
Lunala isnt really a Pokemon that can he handled with in 1 turn. Its Shadow Shield makes sure of that
Pollen Puff your restricted
spore the world~
Redirect attacks
and that
Yea and I'm okay with that but I just don't have a way to deal with it after breaking shadow shield cause its so bulky and I have nothing to pressure or ohko it after shadow shield
Sludge bomb tera fairies
That might be better than ogerpon honestly
Because ogerpon isn't really doing tooooooo too much here
And you can switch it out to regain hp
She's kinda just here for moral support and to round out the team
Shadow Rider can pressure with astral barrage. if you want your Pokemon to do things in TR, you could also try Friend Guard Clefairy
You would think that
It forces Wide Guard or Tera
You would think astral barrage goes dummy but then I get hit with the wide guard mind game
Hrmmmm,,,,
Tera means they wasted any other surprise tera they could do later
I suppose but I really don't like that level of mind games
Nasty Plot would really put pressure on them with CSR. Even if they set TR, moongus can pressure spore or Clefairy can After You the CSR. Both can redirect as well
I'll probably roll with amoonguss in that case
Spore is a moot point with miraidon lunala though
Both Clef and sus can heal CSR too
the shroom would likely be stuck on redirection unless your monke switches terrains
Also I'm gonna be honest I'm switching back to tera grass zama
I love tera grass zama it reverses a good amount of relevant weaknesses and makes it such a good miraidon counter
Then there's a lot of fire weaknesses on your team and I expect volcarona to pick up
I'm also just so used to pilotting that
True. I have rilla and amoongus,,,
I have ursh for that but it doesn't feel fool proof
Dillon's volcarona was tera dragon
Remember that we're not top players either, we can offer advice but dont let us control the entirety of your teambuilding. You should do what you think is best
Cheers :)
Someone here mentioned tera ghost zama last night but I just. Don't like it
Yep always best to go with your gut
Tera grass is what I'm used to pilotting and feels good so I'll roll with that yea
I think I'll test amoonguss over ogerpon
But I still don't know what to do about my 6th
Farigiraf?
I used to run speed control flutter but my team doesn't feel like it needs speed control all too much
Tried it and it felt like it did nothing outside of counter trick room
Could always slap on incin
It didn't feel like it did anything outside of that
The extra fake out mon would be nice
Incin is also nice in tr
Dillon the goat is a top player tho. he do be knowing a thing or two tho.
knock off would be nice into lunala too
I can spell
Just be careful of the meteor beam
i can spell, sometimes
It can also be nice into the Zama mirror with tera bug
And good against hands too, it can't drain punch tera bug
I kinda wanna try this flutter set to see how this does with the extra tr counter and ghost pressure but we'll see
Ribbon (Flutter Mane) @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 148 HP / 244 SpA / 116 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Shadow Ball
- Taunt
- Protect
but if not I'll slap on incin
Yeah try both out
Oop forgot to EV amoonguss
Just be aware that Amoonguss still takes a ton from electro drift
Also for amoonguss
- Spore
- Rage Powder
- Sludge Bomb
- Pollen Puff
?
I feel off leaving protect out
Also you could potentially run knock off on rilla for a knock off user that isn't weak to meteor beam
Maybe get rid of sludge bomb for protect
I'll give that a go
I think I'm gonna revisit my team but replace jumpluff with Indeedee and urshifu with something else
I just don't like single strike
Amen jfc
Lunala is always tera fairy anyway and caly shadow is usually dark or fairy
Chi yu would have better synergy with Groudon
I feel like if you're changing that much maybe try to rebuild from your core?
Lunala is good, so is Groudon, I wonder if I should put the psychic seed on lunala and safety goggles on Indeedee or rocky helmet
Bolt can stay because it's been clutch
Bolt is legit my new favourite pokemon, it can win games by itself
Jesus I am starting to realise my type spread is a little bit constricted
Yeah you're very weak to ice and fire
And flutter is very screwed if they have Indeedee
I really want to run iron boulder for some reason
Doesn't really work in tr though
Yep
True
Man miraidon lunala is tricky because Groudon doesn't have great sp def
90
wtf I thought it had some decent bulk
Physical bulk sure
You know maybe I just add grimmsnarl to let it survive a Draco meteor
Idk team building is hard, no idea who to add for 5th and 6th
Maybe volcarona is good
I just had some really nice games against a miraidon caly ice
And flutter went huge
The taunt flutter was so good there so thats promising
@cyan smelt If you end up sticking with lunala I'd like to practice that matchup
Would you mind playing some games later? :3
Sure I just need to figure out a 5th and 6th
I'm gonna try brute bonnet even though it's 3 ice weaknesses now
Actually incin is probably better
Depends on if you need sleep
I don't think the sleep is as worth it with miraidon running around
Yeah but it's there for sucker punch into caly shadow
Oooooo okay I see
Yea thats anti synergy if your core uses indeedee
Incin is safer
Prolly yea
Then no idea for a 6th
Lets see the paste
i like spread moves
I guess but here I don't think that groudon is just kind of being budget koraidon with an innaccurate spread move
surprised there wasn't more ho-oh at milwaukee
I guess koraidon does havew a dragon weakness
Clear Amulet Koraidon can’t OHKO miraidon
But Lorb Close Combat can
Same with Miraidon
yea
and Koraidon rather runs Flare Blitz and Flame Charge so yeah it only can use CC(both of them) to Deal damage
But personally Koraidon Lunala is more fun
@cyan smelt My uninformed instinct here just says ursaluna
It's another viable trick room mon
But it depends on what you want
already got groudon, don't want to stack ice weaknesses
Maybe you could use something more sufficient outside of trick room
just remember Groudon and Koraidon use the same partners most of the time
Isnt that Neutral-
nope, weak to ice
stupidly enough I just thought ursh dark
+Cornerstone technically has no weakness when
You have sturdy againsta a calyrex Ice rider
i tried durshifu and the mons i want to take out with it always tera out of their weaknesses
specifically lunala and caly shadow
funny suggestion what about sneasler
electric Terrain Stonks:
i'm gonna try sneasler just for the lols
I'm gonna be so upset if you run that in our practice games
oh but it can't really do much against miraidon
Never leave home without your pocket gorilla
Rilla has being on every team I've ever made I think lol. I could not dream of dealing with miraidon without it
Every first draft is dw
I love ladder!!!!
i made a new testing alt
lost my first game to expanding force calyrex
lost my second game to body press chesnaught wtf
who tf uses chesnaught in reg i
tera water chesnaught with miraidon running around
its Tera is for Caly Ice MU and Kyogre but it has Wide Guard so yeah
lower ladder cts sucks balls
hell yes feels good to beat an ursaluna
incin is clutch
Hey guys, is there any option to get Tera shards faster then just doing the raids?
@next stump Thank you for all of the Miraidon on ladder, i love this line! lol https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2358701701
Watch a replay of a Pokémon battle between the.ludicolo.guy and mke2023winner! Format: [Gen 9] VGC 2025 Reg I; Date: May 7, 2025
oneofakindof has given 1 Gen Rep to mlbd
Probably not besides MAYBE item printer
we are the only Kyogre Survivors now lol
well i've won 6 in a row after losing two
if you are winning against Conventional stuff then you are fine
if you keep losing to conventional stuff then something feels wrong about your team
well i lost to tera normal csr and grassy seed farigiraf
Both are pretty normal imo
Grassy seed Fari is basically Eseed
And Tera Normal just for CSR Mirror since you already threaten Koraidon
i lost to geezing csr
f
then your team and your state might be concerning
Take a break
my team is ass if i keep losing like this
your team is ass and so does tilting
the combination of what the results look like
i'm fucking tired of cts
Think im ready for Grand Challenge
how is your teambuilding so good
I stick to what i know, make very little changes. when i try to alternate from what im good at it goes to shit
My B'ham team:
https://pokepast.es/29f19c1b5a2ed202
My Team now:
https://pokepast.es/cb9ed13d1ebce439
honestly Jack just sticks to one Archetype
So am i
We both play rain
and we stick to our best archetype
Hyper offensive Rain is all i know 🤣
Thats why i also got into 1500+ and 60% GXE
I just run Bulky Rain lol
slowly learning TR now though with CIR in the team ive used it a bit
usually against ZamaRider
After Grand Challenge, If i do well, i might look at Mystic water kyogre, drop Tornadus for Amoongus or Ursh RS and add sweet scent to Ludicolo or Tsareena.
you can borrow my spread if you want
Gm
lives 2 unboosted Astral Barrage and with screens its a bit overkill
hey throw
I may do
Never left it haha
its just me and Jack who uses Kyogre at this point consistenly
Its a must have for Ludicolo 🤣
Oh I know you haven’t left it lol
Although ludicolo actually partners really well with CIR
My internet has had an outage for two days and I’m bouta go crazy

