There’s no “doubles high horse”
#competitive_discussion
left bobcat
Herro chat
bold geode
Iker playing the MU super well
Ope that seals shit
If Víctor comes back from this, it'll be fuckin impressive
Should've hit Pao
Damn that was something
@foggy lodge AY
ZAMA IN FINALS
People gonna probably talk shit like "oh Zam only made finals cuz no one cares about this Reg"
Shut up
graceful scaffold
has eternatus won anything before>
i would google but idk the pro gamer website
astral kelp
ashmalah
bold geode
has eternatus won anything before>
Not in Gen 9 at least
graceful scaffold
thanks monke tickles you
astral kelp
wtf
full rune
Is Kyogre shiny locked in any of the games? I'm asking because somebody has a shiny Kyogre and idk if it's hacked or not
bold geode
thanks monke *tickles you*
Hehehe stawp it 
atomic mural
Wait I just started watching Seville regionals a eternatus made top 4?
bold geode
Is Kyogre shiny locked in any of the games? I'm asking because somebody has a sh...
You can get it via Dynamax Adventures in SwSh iirc
Though I'd check the trading rules to make sure it's not a trade ban in the server
solid frigate
yeah
bold geode
Wait I just started watching Seville regionals a eternatus made top 4?
Yup it's on stream now
But it's down a game
full rune
You can get it via Dynamax Adventures in SwSh iirc
Though I'd check the trading ...
Okay just checking, it's not somebody here it was somebody I was battling just now
bold geode
Oh then yeah that's possible
full rune
I'm just hoping it's not hacked because I lost to it
bold geode
Wouldn't really matter anyways, but I recommend we don't engage in that talk here
full rune
Okay
bold geode
Man that set was a steamroll
atomic mural
Why did he go for sludge bomb
bold geode
He kinda loses there anyways
atomic mural
Well yeah
forest arrow
Paonite
atomic mural
Zamazenta wins
bold geode
LET'S FUCKING GO CHAT
exotic grotto
Zamazenta wins
Yay Zamazenta!
bold geode
Ok, Regulation G is officially over and it ended the best way possible, lfg
chrome knot
me who has a reg g local today,,,,
bold geode
me who has a reg g local today,,,,
Are you hit by the juice of perpetual sadness by this
bold geode
LMAO
HELL YEAH
azure ether
How'd you do
Didn't do that well, 2-4 in swiss
bold geode
Damn
azure ether
Everyone was just too good ahaha 
bold geode
Lol
It happens, anything can happen bro
Good shot though
exotic grotto
Lol
It happens, anything can happen bro
Good shot though
Are you excited for the first ever Regulation I regionals next week!
bold geode
Yup
azure ether
I'll try again on the next Ball League, whenever they announce it. Hopefully I at least get a neutral record.
bold geode
Can't wait to see what's used
exotic grotto
It's going to be brilliant!
bold geode
I'll try again on the next Ball League, whenever they announce it. Hopefully I a...
We hope for these times 
solid frigate
Can't wait to see what's used
if i see all CSR in top cut im not watching it lmao
exotic grotto
if i see all CSR in top cut im not watching it lmao
A Zamazenta defeated a Calyrex Shadow team!
bold geode
if i see all CSR in top cut im not watching it lmao
Nah bro's tweaking
left bobcat
Shoooooo
next stump
just now catching up with the stream
this CSR player in top 16 played like booty
he can just spore psychic for 3 turns in a row and probably win the game
solid frigate
throwing moment
left bobcat
Sounds like a me moment
astral kelp
It was fun but man New Zealand is so itty bitty
I lost to first place because of a crit in the last turn twice 2/1 it was sooo close
left bobcat
The itsy bitsy spiderrrrrr
next stump
aw man just a couple players away from having a top 4 bracket after the swiss rounds
astral kelp
aw man just a couple players away from having a top 4 bracket after the swiss ro...
Yeah I wishhh
Apparantly there was this other big event around the same (like a nerdy art con) so there was a bit less than usual
next stump
that makes sense, it’s also the end of the format and so players are a lot less willing to show up
next stump
and unfortunately they made some changes to locals this season that made them less appealing for people to go to, so hopefully they have some fixes/adjustments next year
foggy lodge
X
solid frigate
gonna play a bit of Shadow Rider at the end of Reg G life Cycle
astral kelp
and unfortunately they made some changes to locals this season that made them le...
What happened?
astral kelp
gonna play a bit of Shadow Rider at the end of Reg G life Cycle
Might as well
foggy lodge
Going 12-1 and getting the same CP as someone who went 2-2 is crazy
next stump
holy shit lol is that real? do you have the johannesburg results? i don’t see it on pokedata
astral kelp
I heard that all of oce gets to send 20 people to world's which since new Zealand gets like no tournaments compared to Australia it means that unless I. Move there it's pretty much impossible for to make it to world's
I wish it was more separated by country
bold geode
holy shit lol is that real? do you have the johannesburg results? i don’t see it...
I mean did you see that it was done in someone's house?
next stump
What happened?
long story short, the way that locals used to work is that there was a limit on how many locals a TO (tournament organizer) could run, but no limit on how many locals a store could run.
Most cities have one or two stores that host VGC, but more than one or two TOs who are willing to host. That was fine in the old system because the TOs could just rotate who hosted and the store was happy to host sometimes even 2 locals per week (at least in my area).
Now, with the changes, stores can only host one Challenge per month and one Cup per quarter (3 months). That means for VG especially, you’re looking at way less locals because the TOs who want to host need to find new stores which is really difficult
foggy lodge
X
foggy lodge
https://x.com/SmartTCG/status/1916394477566169247?t=hpZYttamJuy5q7mOTMnZPA&s=19
Someone found the house where they are playing btw lmao
astral kelp
long story short, the way that locals used to work is that there was a limit on ...
Wait once per month wtf
astral kelp
https://x.com/LeafyCamo/status/1916400349230903720?t=n0E625edzl2GBzH92Pv_2A&s=19
LOL the strats
bold geode
Someone found the house where they are playing btw lmao
LMAO
I wonder what the neighbors thought when they saw like 15 cars pull up to their house
astral kelp
Wait can we earn points in online tournaments?
foggy lodge
The neighbours looking at the big pikachu getting into the house to congrats the winner
bold geode
Only the GCs
bold geode
The neighbours looking at the big pikachu getting into the house to congrats the...
LMFAO
The neighbors when the whole house starts counting Population Bomb
astral kelp
I feel like having more tournaments would be nice to equalise the like regional advantagez
foggy lodge
How many people are in VGC actually
astral kelp
Like online I mean
bold geode
There was like 20 people for that event iirc
foggy lodge
I know TCG should be full/almost full but idk vgc
foggy lodge
There was like 20 people for that event iirc
😭😭😭
astral kelp
There was like 20 people for that event iirc
Godam like 20 people in a kitchen
foggy lodge
That's the same as my local scene
bold geode
It's why shit was so low
I mean like
The thing that people aren't keeping in mind with this argument is that they JUST started allowing events in South Africa
astral kelp
Tho one thing that was nice about the tournament is thag I got time to talk a bunch with every single person that attended
astral kelp
It's why shit was so low
I mean like
The thing that people aren't keeping in min...
What's wrong with South Africa huh?
next stump
Like online I mean
the only issue with online events counting for worlds is that you can’t guarantee who’s playing them. It’s always a little tricky to have worlds points on the line when you can easily have other people play for you or just stream your games on discord to a group of people
astral kelp
It's it like pretty good
bold geode
Like sure it's wild that going 12-1 and going 2-2 in this context is weird but keep in mind rn it's probably around the same
astral kelp
the only issue with online events counting for worlds is that you can’t guarante...
Ah yeah that does suck
bold geode
What's wrong with South Africa huh?
Nothing
Lost context
foggy lodge
They should do online tournaments again
And not only GCs which are basically ladder tournaments
Obviously less prizes than irl events but idk
next stump
bringing back the players cup would be cool
foggy lodge
Yessss
astral kelp
What's the players Cup?
foggy lodge
And I think with the VR tours they can see people are fine with online tours
next stump
What's the players Cup?
a pandemic era tournament during sword shield where it was all online and organized officially by pokemon
foggy lodge
Wolfey won one
astral kelp
ay yea thag sounds awesome
next stump
easier back then because it was closed teamsheet but still doable for sure
just need a different system
astral kelp
Wolfey won one
Idk i feel like that's just expected I would be surprised if he didn't lmao
foggy lodge
It was quite big
astral kelp
It's actually fucking crazy how he makes the game look so easy
astral kelp
easier back then because it was closed teamsheet but still doable for sure
Oh really cts
next stump
yeah, SV is the first games to have OTS
foggy lodge
It was also the only time he had a chance to win one so if he didn't he wouldn't be able to say he has won every type of events
astral kelp
Bro I need to practice ots. In the tournament I was overthinking trying to play around cc on his urshifu dark only to realize HE WASN'T RJNNJNG IT
next stump
LOL
foggy lodge
lmao
astral kelp
Like on the third game
astral kelp
It was also the only time he had a chance to win one so if he didn't he wouldn't...
Bros filling the tournament wins pokedex
Btw what do you guys think of just straight up replacing amoonguss to use brute bonnet instead in reg I?
It doesn't underspeed cir but it does have sucker punch
Being weak to body press feels so ass tho
It's also decently tankier
near crag
If you’re running groudon, it could work. I don’t think it would work in any other team, even koraidon stuff
near crag
I just don’t see it working as much with korai bc of speed tiers, since with amoonguss would have a better anti caly ice
astral kelp
Ri was considering doing that on my wheezing team since it's like less antisynergy lol
astral kelp
I just don’t see it working as much with korai bc of speed tiers, since with amo...
Doesn't koraidon just wipe cir anywyas
Wait does koraidon one tap indeedde
bold geode
I just don’t see it working as much with korai bc of speed tiers, since with amo...
It's been the piece used on those teams
near crag
Anyways, how good do y’all think calyrex shadow + zacian is?
next stump
it’s tough to have two restricteds weak to incin
astral kelp
I coped it for like 2 weeks
Its not it
It's like zacian is great but he doesn't really cover csrs weaknesses
Also is it just me or is he just weak to everything zamazenta is weak to but instead of amazing body press it gets 20% chance of hitting play rough lmao
Dude this guy at the tournament brought zacian and he missed like 4/5 play roughs it's actually fucking insane
bold geode
it’s tough to have two restricteds weak to incin
Yeah let's make Incineroar LeBron James
Also @next stump (sorry for double ping)
What's your reaction on Zamazenta winning a Reg G regional again
foggy lodge
X
solid frigate
https://x.com/_KastyTP_/status/1916476180011659565
can someone translate
left bobcat
GASP ITS PATRICK
near crag
Y'all think CSR Kyogre could do smth? I mean, they don't have any real anti synergy, but wide guard or mons with a high spdef shut the duo down
solid frigate
this feels ass
bold geode
Immune to fighting ghost is pretty darn good
Nope
shadow wind
I mean it is but yeah I can see how Horoark is hot garbage through and through
foggy lodge
when people used it to counter maushold annihilape and bro somehow still didn't achieve anything
zinc umbra
Hello friends, im looking to test out pokemon for competitive play. Want to help me out then lmk. I want to test out a Snorlax Build so feel free use something he is weak against . Im just looking to see if the snorlax i built is good for singles or doubles
solid frigate
Hello friends, im looking to test out pokemon for competitive play. Want to help...
@mighty stump
your son
solid frigate
Hello friends, im looking to test out pokemon for competitive play. Want to help...
also ummmm your username feels ummm inappropriate btw
astral kelp
mint void
Hello friends, im looking to test out pokemon for competitive play. Want to help...
Snirlax is kinda ass rn
solid frigate
Snirlax is kinda ass rn
just let Tofu do the job anyway
mint void
just let Tofu do the job anyway
why Tofu specifically?
karmic oak
I need help making a team
mint void
@karmic oakPlease state format and ruleset
karmic oak
Ermmm the one on ladder right now
That’s 2 restricted right?
Ah just checked not in place till Thursday
But I have most of a team built just need thoughts on last 2 memvers
solid frigate
why Tofu specifically?
cuz he is the snorlax guy
chrome knot
@lofty tartan look what wife got for me after she got 2nd in a cup,,,,,🥺🥺
solid frigate
<@294245776060579842> look what wife got for me after she got 2nd in a cup,,,,,�...
ok thats cute
shadow wind
Pompompurin is my goat
real prairie
Anyone got a CIR I can borrow for Grand Challenge?
solid frigate
Anyone got a CIR I can borrow for Grand Challenge?
you mean like having it?
real prairie
Well I'd give it back after
solid frigate
i probably can't i have few projects coming up
+EVs are for the Tailroom team anyway
real prairie
+EVs are for the Tailroom team anyway
That'd probably be okay since I'm planning on running it with imprison so fast is fine
mint void
But I have most of a team built just need thoughts on last 2 memvers
show us what u got then
karmic oak
show us what u got then
Thinking of going for kyogre tornadus miraidon and amoongus
Was debating maybe throwing lando in there aswell
solid frigate
no Urshifu?
karmic oak
I don’t really know would it be worth having another water type?
solid frigate
lofty tartan
<@294245776060579842> look what wife got for me after she got 2nd in a cup,,,,,�...
This is awesome. Sorry I just got back from my second Easter get-together
All of my holidays exist two or three times and it's exhausting
karmic oak
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1203015224454807602/1360970466730184714/i...
So if I have urshifu who would be the 6th?
solid frigate
yeah cuz you just go Hyper Offense Core for Mirai Ogre,i have tried it as my main core and
Its just too strong-
craggy dagger
Anyone got a CIR I can borrow for Grand Challenge?
sure
you might have to redo the EVs yourself though
karmic oak
yeah cuz you just go Hyper Offense Core for Mirai Ogre,i have tried it as my mai...
So wait I use ogrepon also?
craggy dagger
and tera
bold geode
<@294245776060579842> look what wife got for me after she got 2nd in a cup,,,,,�...
We love to see it
solid frigate
So wait I use ogrepon also?
Ogerpon during my testing is pretty mediocre on Mirai Ogre imo
But Amoonguss would be fine
karmic oak
So rn we got kyogre mirai tornadus amoongus urshifu
lofty tartan
Cornerstone is pretty hot no matter how you slice it
solid frigate
yeah its just during testing for me its underwhelming
Could be wrong imo but like yeah
karmic oak
Could I rock lando at 6th ?
lofty tartan
You could
karmic oak
Just tryna slot in my shinys to save me hunting for another pokemon 😭
lofty tartan
As a shiny hunter, myself, you should never limit yourself to just what you have available.
solid frigate
exactly
lofty tartan
But Lando is fine on a rain team 🤷
karmic oak
Well I mean idm hunting another but if lando is a good option I could use I will
But got a few days till new format
lofty tartan
It runs for a few months so you have plenty of time
solid frigate
+Miraidon Kyogre core is rather Hyper Offensive anyway so Urshifu Lando isnt bad
solid frigate
If it’s mid I may try a kyurem team for fun
tried two combos for Kyurem white
Miserable to play
karmic oak
tried two combos for Kyurem white
Miserable to play
Oh really what was the team?
solid frigate
Kyogre KWhite
Zacian Kwhite
one of them is alright but the other one is just
Why make myself suffer
karmic oak
I mean I was thinkin of maybe doing a kyurem black team give him a assault vest and set up snow plus aurora veil
solid frigate
No.
karmic oak
And just hope he don’t die
solid frigate
GOD NO
karmic oak
Y.😭
solid frigate
Kyurem Black could ironically worse than Mewtwo-
Hot take i know but yeah it feels worse than Mewtwo
karmic oak
I mean his stats look good no?
lofty tartan
Yeaaaaaaaaah stats aren't everything
solid frigate
Look at the movepool
solid frigate
At least mewtwo can use its movepool and its basically worse CSR stats and Ability
KYUREM BLACK DOES NOT EVEN HAVE A CONSISTENT ICE MOVE
karmic oak
That’s crazy
astral kelp
holy shit look at this dudes murkrow set
karmic oak
I mean atleast give him ice spinner or something they fumbled the bag
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.2
solid frigate
@lofty tartan and i am not joking i put Kyurem black the lowest cuz its movepool is just so bad-
astral kelp
At least mewtwo can use its movepool and its basically worse CSR stats and Abili...
dude ikr its so stupid
astral kelp
<@294245776060579842> and i am not joking i put Kyurem black the lowest cuz its ...
loaded nice kyurem black isnt actually the worse thing ive tried
astral kelp
yeah for surelmao
karmic oak
I shiny hunted him with the intent on using him😢
astral kelp
unironically lugia is probablt better than kyurem black
shadow wind
<@294245776060579842> and i am not joking i put Kyurem black the lowest cuz its ...
My goat is making moves
solid frigate
My goat is making moves
its not escaping anti meta cuz of Koraidon
karmic oak
I may still try him is my kyogre team is buns I can change him
shadow wind
And lowkey I would have Koraidon and Zama higher than CIR
shadow wind
its not escaping anti meta cuz of Koraidon
Erm actually he’s in meta
solid frigate
shut
solid frigate
I may still try him is my kyogre team is buns I can change him
Honestly would just drag Kyogre lower
So word of advice by SkrawVGC
karmic oak
That was pitiful damage what on earth
Looks so goated just to be so buns im devastated 😭
solid frigate
thats why its sucks
Pitiful damage for a 170 Atk stat-
like come on-
strongest Move is like Dragon Claw if you want to talk about consistent
astral kelp
Honestly would just drag Kyogre lower
So word of advice by SkrawVGC
yeah like it literally does no fuckibng damage even with 170 atk
its so stupid
karmic oak
Okay so I’m praying kyogres good then otherwise I gotta hunt a whole new team😭
solid frigate
Okay so I’m praying kyogres good then otherwise I gotta hunt a whole new team😭
definently good but Kyurem Black just drags it down
astral kelp
blizzard has that freeze chance
karmic oak
Yeah no kyurem black would be an alternative team
Just cause I have him chilling in a box rn
astral kelp
kyurem black is nice because he can get really fast with scale shot
karmic oak
Is latios able to work at all?
solid frigate
Is latios able to work at all?
yeah but you gonna work harder than you need to
solid frigate
kyurem black is nice because he can get really fast with scale shot
dies to Koraidon
Oh you Tera'd? dies to Kyogre,Terapagos,Miraidon etc
like holy hell
astral kelp
hey hey im tryna be positive 
solid frigate
no i can't give Kyurem Black any positives
solid frigate
<@294245776060579842> and i am not joking i put Kyurem black the lowest cuz its ...
@karmic oak if you wanna play consistent just try ones that are from Calyrex Honse to Meta if you want consistent duos or close to no misery
astral kelp
i was running this for a whole it was actually really fun
solid frigate
bold geode
What in the clusterfuck am I looking at
bold geode
i was running this for a whole it was actually really fun
Kyurem Black and Hitmontop are both so bad it's not even funny
Also why are you on Regulation G still
Last event for Reg G happened, get to some double restricted my guy
solid frigate
What in the clusterfuck am I looking at
exactly
astral kelp
Also why are you on Regulation G still
Last event for Reg G happened, get to som...
That was ages ago lol
The team
lofty tartan
Yeah if you read what he said with the picture you'll see that it's an older team lol
rustic mountain
<@294245776060579842> and i am not joking i put Kyurem black the lowest cuz its ...
put kyogre in meta and label groudon/zacian tier 'around' and its a decent list tho id argue some of the niche ones belong in why
solid frigate
put kyogre in meta and label groudon/zacian tier 'around' and its a decent list ...
which ones tho
foggy lodge
What is Solgaleo's niche bro
bold geode
Yeah if you read what he said with the picture you'll see that it's an older tea...
That's a lot of words though
rustic mountain
which ones tho
dialga, palkia, kyruem, solgaleo, dusk mane
like why r u choosing any of those guys
bold geode
Yeah Solgaleo kinda dookie
bold geode
Yeah
Still kinda dookie
atomic mural
chat do i bring swordfish or korai csr weezing to millwaukee
bold geode
dialga, palkia, kyruem, solgaleo, dusk mane
Wait
Palkia has seen use
rustic mountain
chat do i bring swordfish or korai csr weezing to millwaukee
both dont seem great
bold geode
And I'd argue Dialga is probably fine
rustic mountain
korai csr is good but idk bout weezing
rustic mountain
Wait
Palkia has seen use
in terms of what? the past? this is a new format what is palkias place
same for dialga like why dialga what does it do for u
bold geode
in terms of what? the past? this is a new format what is palkias place
Idk what it is
But I've seen people use it
Idk why
Tryna figure it out tbh
rustic mountain
yea on cir/tr stuff that is not good
bold geode
Yeah go ahead and just use Zam CSR (totally not me 
)
bold geode
Idk I think it's fine but for both it's kinda like
Dialga or Palkia just benefit off of having another restricted
That's really it
opal inlet
Yeah go ahead and just use Zam CSR (totally not me <:worrychu:453220100636540939...
was bouta say av zam for the memes but then remembered it needs the shield to transform
solid frigate
Idk I think it's fine but for both it's kinda like
Dialga or Palkia just benefit...
Dialga works with CIR and Kyogre honestly and thats it
At least it can land its moves lmao
unlike Someone
i'm talking to you Palkia
rustic mountain
Idk I think it's fine but for both it's kinda like
Dialga or Palkia just benefit...
they do but so does every restricted and theres quite a few that are just outright better. in other formats kyogre was a lot better so palkia had more of a place (dmax was a huge bonus in swsh), and similarly w/ dialga not necessarily for kyogre but dmax and then benefit of a solid typing but between power creep yet again and a different mechanic they just are there. like sure u could pick them and win some ladder games but it still belongs in why for me
spiral ridge
https://tenor.com/view/deer-coffee-machine-deer-my-deer-friend-nokotan-gif-40057...
Some people have ran non shield zam lol
Now I’m fucking up
solid frigate
may god bless their sanity
bold geode
they do but so does every restricted and theres quite a few that are just outrig...
I think Kyogre is better rn than ya think
foggy lodge
Reg G ended so this are my final thoughts
I finally have an argument for Eternatus lol I always thought it wasn't bad
spiral ridge
may god bless their sanity
I think it was for like the 10 extra speed points lmfao
solid frigate
I finally have an argument for Eternatus lol I always thought it wasn't bad
its just toxic stall just makes it like a headache imo
But its stats are almost Perfect imo
rustic mountain
I think Kyogre is better rn than ya think
not enough to justify using palkia as my restricted slot vs having tons of other tools able to handle it otherwise
i do think kyogres good
foggy lodge
Dialga can be cool it also works as anti Kyogre
spiral ridge
Reg G ended so this are my final thoughts
Is this based off results or just personal feel btw just curious
foggy lodge
And doesn't insta die to Miraidon lmao
foggy lodge
Is this based off results or just personal feel btw just curious
Both
rustic mountain
seems reasonable
solid frigate
And doesn't insta die to Miraidon lmao
Steel Dragon typing my goat
foggy lodge
cuz if it was for results pagos and csr would be lower
opal inlet
Some people have ran non shield zam lol
???
spiral ridge
Did pagos have more than kyo? Idk just feel like saw kyo more
rustic mountain
idk if id have zama in super good at the end of the format but its fine
spiral ridge
My memory could be shitting itself
foggy lodge
Pagos won japan nationals and that's it
bold geode
not enough to justify using palkia as my restricted slot vs having tons of other...
Maybe not LMAO
foggy lodge
idk if id have zama in super good at the end of the format but its fine
Just because I didn't want to argue with monke ngl LOL
spiral ridge
Real
rustic mountain
yea pagos is another that never quite got there much
bold geode
Idk
I'll give Palkia a slight chance but idt it's winning anything
Or even hitting like top cuts
solid frigate
Pagos won japan nationals and that's it
and thats the meteor beam sets
Pretty close in some tournaments but always lost in the finals
bold geode
I think Palkia just
Exists
spiral ridge
Is anyone running pagos in reg I?
bold geode
Just because I didn't want to argue with monke ngl LOL
HEY
IT BETTER BE UP THERE BITCH
rustic mountain
yea i think its moreso that monke, some1 might day 2 w/ it randomly but its just so underwhelming to me on initial impression
foggy lodge
Is anyone running pagos in reg I?
I've tried pagos csr and its kinda cool
solid frigate
Is anyone running pagos in reg I?
tried to with Zacian
bold geode
yea i think its moreso that monke, some1 might day 2 w/ it randomly but its just...
That's honestly my thoughts on it tbh
spiral ridge
Alright
I just know it’s a huge Tera hog and another restricted makes that situation sound worse
foggy lodge
pagos korai also got top 4 at the last VR
bold geode
Like I'm not saying Palkia's cracked
I'm just saying it does exist
foggy lodge
And I was labbing with it too
spiral ridge
I need to actually play reg I some more
solid frigate
Alright
I just know it’s a huge Tera hog and another restricted makes that situa...
honestly Pagos only has like 4 usable pairs
With Zacian,With CSR,With Lunala,With Ho-Oh
foggy lodge
btw
spiral ridge
pagos korai also got top 4 at the last VR
Really both those guys love Tera that’s interesting
Cool
bold geode
Oh wait Max that tierlist is Reg G
Yeah no Zam could be lower
foggy lodge
Don't believe in the Ho-Oh bait gang
bold geode
But it's still objectively giod
rustic mountain
its good
bold geode
Don't believe in the Ho-Oh bait gang
Bro you're tweaking
spiral ridge
I loved zama in G but some stuff definitely better
bold geode
Ho Oh I think has a fair shot in double restricted
rustic mountain
i am unsure on ho-oh but it def is not in the why category
bold geode
Like if there is a restricted in the middle range that I think can absolutely pop tf off, it's gotta be Ho Oh
rustic mountain
it has a decent amount of reasonable use case
i just dont know if its sustainable wen the format actually takes off
solid frigate
Don't believe in the Ho-Oh bait gang
i put it the lowest anyway
bold geode
I see top cuts for Ho Oh
bold geode
Idt it'll ever win
MAYBE very early but
rustic mountain
marco doesnt count
spiral ridge
The humble rock cudgel
foggy lodge
Is there anything that takes less than 90% from astral body press
spiral ridge
Indeedee
solid frigate
https://x.com/marc0fier0/status/1915893842466820506
34% is kinda iffy for a Ho-Oh who resist Fighting
rustic mountain
u mean fighting
foggy lodge
And that's not sword of ruin boosted
spiral ridge
lol
rustic mountain
only issue is horoark sucks
solid frigate
252 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Astral Barrage vs. 60 HP / 252 SpD Assault Vest Iron Hands: 79-95 (33.3 - 40%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
+1 252+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned Body Press vs. 60 HP / 20 Def Iron Hands: 109-129 (45.9 - 54.4%) -- 49.6% chance to 2HKO
I mean Technically Hands but it really based on rolls
and yes i am using sample spread cuz i am lazy
foggy lodge
I remember doubling up into Hands with Zama Pao and killing it
foggy lodge
It was crazy
foggy lodge
Like some turns they would protect their mon and attack with Hands and I would just kill it
solid frigate
That poor slow bitch getting mauled by animals
PFFT
spiral ridge
It just needs one drain punch on pao and it’s safe dw guys!
bold geode
only issue is horoark sucks
Idk I got pissed off at a regular Zoroark today 
spiral ridge
Idk I got pissed off at a regular Zoroark today <:KekHands:1251294686468112434>
How lol
foggy lodge
anyways I could never hate Zama with him I had my 5-3 at the spearpillar
solid frigate
illusion moment
bold geode
My dumbass got tricked into thinking it was an Indeedee with the wrong ability
rustic mountain
i love zama
foggy lodge
Which is a shitty result but it was my first tournament ever and it was big lol
bold geode
And genuinely was getting mad like BRO WHY YOU RUNNING KNOCK OFF AND CRUNCH ON DEEDEE
spiral ridge
My dumbass got tricked into thinking it was an Indeedee with the wrong ability
Our new comp helper people 
foggy lodge
Istg If I used sludge bomb amoonguss instead of clear smog
I also fumbled the lead in my win and in if I had lead urshifu pelipper I would have won
opal inlet
My dumbass got tricked into thinking it was an Indeedee with the wrong ability
vro sees zoroark in mon select and an indeedee without psy field and thinks “oh this mf pick the other ability” 😭 😭
spiral ridge
Bro assumed own tempo
solid frigate
i don't think i have a second team for Reg I currently besides Mirai Ogre
But hopefully it changes
bold geode
vro sees zoroark in mon select and an indeedee without psy field and thinks “oh ...
Hey I fought a Chlorophyll Whimsicott the other day so
foggy lodge
who tf is smeargle
solid frigate
who tf is smeargle
the demon
spiral ridge
Some French guy idk
opal inlet
Hey I fought a Chlorophyll Whimsicott the other day so
was it like a tr team??
spiral ridge
Clove say that to yourself again
Why would you want a double speed ability in TR my love
opal inlet
no like the indeedee zoroark
spiral ridge
Ohh ok
solid frigate
Why would you want a double speed ability in TR my love
LMAO
bold geode
was it like a tr team??
Nope
Mirai Groudon
spiral ridge
Indee on a mirai team?
opal inlet
i could only see own tempo being used to neg fake out but psy terrain does that already
bold geode
no like the indeedee zoroark
Nope to that too
opal inlet
why did he use indeedee
bold geode
Our new comp helper people <:poliwhirlkek:932149535311015988>
Hey we fuck up sometimes
opal inlet
can i get an ots on this man???
spiral ridge
Hey we fuck up sometimes
I know you could so say moments about me but hey I’m not orange
solid frigate
orange moment
spiral ridge
i could only see own tempo being used to neg fake out but psy terrain does that ...
Well if it really was own tempo indee which sounds like he didn’t see it cus it was zoroark
Maybe so it isn’t a terrain war
bold geode
I know you could so say moments about me but hey I’m not orange
Wow
Talking shit about staff huh
I'm calling mods
foggy lodge
brooo i found a super old reg g tier list
spiral ridge
Wow
Talking shit about staff huh
I'm calling mods
@tranquil kraken this yo man he just fell for a zoroark
foggy lodge
Super early meta so basically from a year ago
bold geode
<@248945583874768905> this yo man he just fell for a zoroark
Ah yes I felt it
spiral ridge
Oh?
foggy lodge
wtf was I cookin LMAO
solid frigate
brooo i found a super old reg g tier list
tell that to the past that Miraidon Won worlds lmao
solid frigate
wtf was I cookin LMAO
BRUH
spiral ridge
wtf was I cookin LMAO
HAHAHA WTF STONE HENGE DOING HERE
foggy lodge
tell that to the past that Miraidon Won worlds lmao
Miraidon is in B tier in this tier list💀
opal inlet
wtf was I cookin LMAO
cir in c tier??? send this man to the guillotine
spiral ridge
DARK LANDO?
solid frigate
TORN AND WHIMS IN C WTF
foggy lodge
I was cooking sneasler long ago sorry gang
chrome knot
@spiral ridge stewwa do u have shield without zam caught.:,.
spiral ridge
Okay I’ll forgive RM that took a while
Same with CIR
But korai torn 😭
opal inlet
DARK LANDO?
dark shifu
bold geode
I could tell this was made when Chi CSR Indeedee was all of the ladder
solid frigate
NAH THIS TIER LIST IS BEYOND COOKED
spiral ridge
<@725406472464498719> stewwa do u have shield without zam caught.:,.
Umm actually maybe yes why
foggy lodge
I could tell this was made when Chi CSR Indeedee was all of the ladder
Absolutely
spiral ridge
dark shifu
Dark shifu is kinda eh
chrome knot
i want love ball one for milwaukee
spiral ridge
Lemme go checkkk
chrome knot
yay!
bold geode
I was gonna offer you mine but I forget you're so cute and demure
foggy lodge
Why did no one mention the fucking garchomp LMAO
solid frigate
i might do a tier list on the relevant Mons
opal inlet
oh scotty i saw this awesome fucking hoodie i gotta tell you about
spiral ridge
I remembered my switch case was downstairs came down to it. Forgot this case was empty and it’s up in my bed
the place I just left.
spiral ridge
GIRLHELL1999
Transfem doom girl
chrome knot
Transfem doom girl
actually no i wanna do reactor
spiral ridge
You would be doom girl it started cus his bunny died
chrome knot
lemme think of names for a little
opal inlet
it was funny valentine’s back scars on the back of the hoodie and the text of the corpse heart on the front it was so tough i gotta get that shit man
spiral ridge
I caught the zama in this save :(
want me to run through it? How much time
spiral ridge
Wait maybe I didn’t?
I don’t see a zama anywhere in my boxes
Does it say I have no main quest before I’ve caught the zama?
It says adventure to your hearts content rn
left bobcat
Chef boyardee
chrome knot
<@224303371564220418> did you switch again
mhm found building group on a team i really like
bold geode
mhm found building group on a team i really like
Ok good we like to see that
spiral ridge
Team has some of my fave stinkers on it
Hop hate was undeserved man I didn’t mind this kid
Oh fuck he’s facing me
Is my team busted or shit rn
We may be chilling
bold geode
We may be chilling
Eww I'm your friend? Disgusting
opal inlet
nvm bru dawn wings lowk fraud
0 Atk Incineroar Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 164 HP / 60 Def Shadow Shield Lunala: 128-152 (54.9 - 65.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 Atk Incineroar Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Prism Armor Necrozma-Dawn-Wings: 174-207 (85.2 - 101.4%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
im staying w lunala
spiral ridge
Trick room I think?
opal inlet
i guessed as much
spiral ridge
It’s a solid C tier
opal inlet
i'll stick with dawn wings for now
solid frigate
NDW is like
Purely Psyspam+Hard TR
opal inlet
i love psyspam lowk
opal inlet
And sus would prob be chill
i had amoongus on my hard tr at one point but then swapped it for a restricted
spiral ridge
Gotcha
opal inlet
aughhhhh i feel im not piloting it right though
spiral ridge
I’ll watch you sometime
opal inlet
i usually let indeedee die t2 after tr t1 so i get a free swap
like depending on the setup i js usually go ind-f + cir start into follow me tr
if its csr open i tr ind-f and prot cir
spiral ridge
Keeping indee alive can be useful
Helping hand and follow me great
Plus uhh if you’re goggles anti sus sleep
near crag
How good y'all think duos like Zacian Lunala or CSR Kyogre are? Been thinking about building around those, but idk if it's even worth the while
spiral ridge
I’ll watch backseat you some time again clove
opal inlet
and then once tr ends i have no way to get it up again bc mfs target cir
spiral ridge
Does dawn not have it?
opal inlet
cir and ndw die b4 i can get tr off again 💔
spiral ridge
Also don’t be scared to act like they’ll think you’re doing TR
Protect or attack can throw em off
opal inlet
yea i usually just atk when tr ends
spiral ridge
Your mons are still mons without TR
opal inlet
i remember fighting a guy with jumpluff that had tr on it 💔
spiral ridge
lol wut
opal inlet
vro tr jumpluff t1 when i clicked tr to neg and i thought he would go for it again so i didnt click tr t2 then he set up tailwind
spiral ridge
Discombobulated
I still have yet to play reg I so I’ll just spitball cook a team and face tou eoon
spiral ridge
https://tenor.com/view/deer-coffee-machine-deer-my-deer-friend-nokotan-gif-40057...
Gimme a restricted actually
opal inlet
Gimme a restricted actually
uhhh like any?
solid frigate
anyways i finally done making it-
spiral ridge
Jesus
Christ
opal inlet
im be so fr i have not seen a ruin mon, hands, or oger in a hot minute
spiral ridge
What
solid frigate
Jesus
Christ
Unofficial TorrentAegisVGC Reg G Tier list (Controversial)
spiral ridge
im be so fr i have not seen a ruin mon, hands, or oger in a hot minute
I’m gonna be honest
Play more cus you should definitely see oger and hands at very least
And a chi yu
Or pao
opal inlet
i have seen like hands and chien and oger fire/stone like once each on ladder
not a yu in a while
spiral ridge
Shocking
solid frigate
i have seen like hands and chien and oger fire/stone like once each on ladder
what is your Elo
opal inlet
like 1100 😭
solid frigate
ok no wonder
opal inlet
hmmm
protect is always a good choice when building a moveset but i feel maybe snarl on bolt would also be nice
spiral ridge
I was gonna say this but I knew I could only say it in a mean way lol
spiral ridge
protect is always a good choice when building a moveset but i feel maybe snarl o...
People do this
AV bolt
Tankier more chunk damage than big bits of damage
opal inlet
Raging Bolt @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 252 HP / 116 Def / 100 SpA / 36 SpD
Quiet Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Thunderclap
- Draco Meteor
- Protect
spiral ridge
Change to AV with bulk like that
chrome knot
anyways i finally done making it-
we just gonna ignore vivillon p2 comps?
spiral ridge
Was that in reg G?
solid frigate
Was that in reg G?
Reg G
spiral ridge
Yes I was saying that asking emma cus I didn’t know
solid frigate
we just gonna ignore vivillon p2 comps?
dude if thats reg H i will put Vivi P2 in like A tier cuz i like that comp
opal inlet
Change to AV with bulk like that
so be to av and prot to snarl
spiral ridge
Yeah sure
Cus iirc bolt doesn’t need his ability? It’s helpful but I don’t think all AV bolt had a way to prod it
Never used it myself
solid frigate
Cus iirc bolt doesn’t need his ability? It’s helpful but I don’t think all AV bo...
well its a bonus for damage purposes
spiral ridge
Mhm
solid frigate
i used that during reg G wave 1
opal inlet
https://pokepast.es/7b16155f347b4718 the wonders
ignore tera fairy tera blast clodsire
spiral ridge
Try charkoal tork
opal inlet
wait im stupid
eruption heat wave and weather ball
https://pokepast.es/813feb10a4a6fc39 peep the new indeedee set too
full support type shit
solid frigate
https://pokepast.es/7b16155f347b4718 the wonders
i really like Urshifu Dark in this team ;-;
spiral ridge
Band darkshifu would prob be great yeah but clod time
opal inlet
why cant indeedee get expanding force
spiral ridge
https://pokepast.es/813feb10a4a6fc39 peep the new indeedee set too
Faer
I’m gonna sit you down and hold your hand gently as I say this
Tell me what psychic terrain does
opal inlet
weird ass
solid frigate
why cant indeedee get expanding force
male one does
spiral ridge
What does psychic terrain do clover
opal inlet
ok we drop fake out for heal pulse
spiral ridge
NO
solid frigate
Band darkshifu would prob be great yeah but clod time
yeah cuz beats Shadow rider anyway but yeah- i feel clod is just a huge liability-
opal inlet
i will probs make a second team that is just this but band darkshifu instead of clod
spiral ridge
Also give indee goggles over seed you have no sus answer when it’s in TR
opal inlet
but not today
solid frigate
Also give indee goggles over seed you have no sus answer when it’s in TR
sus
opal inlet
spiral ridge
Protect over solar beam tork
Dropped specs you can be safer
opal inlet
grr
spiral ridge
ATP I’m making it a mission
opal inlet
anti kyogre button
spiral ridge
Clove
You’re slower
You’ll set sun
Also you should 10000% put AV bolt infront of kyo
opal inlet
(bolt exists but i choose to ignore
opal inlet
i really like Urshifu Dark in this team ;-;
tera
opal inlet
no cc?
spiral ridge
If you’re Tera poison yeah no cc
opal inlet
Urshifu @ Choice Band
Ability: Unseen Fist
Level: 50
Tera Type: Poison
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Wicked Blow
- Sucker Punch
- Poison Jab
- U-turn
mf when
spiral ridge
Name it
opal inlet
solid frigate
Urshifu @ Choice Band
Ability: Unseen Fist
Level: 50
Tera Type: Poison
E...
no CC hurts me but its fine
opal inlet
scotty said if tera poison no cc
spiral ridge
His MU with flutter is kinda scary
I thought poison jab be better
spiral ridge
Ah fuck true
I meant just fairy in general still but flutter was main I was thinking
Oops
astral kelp
wait i think i somehow activated both dlcs at the same tie
shadow wind
https://pokepast.es/804d25ae4e534fc7 - Does anyone have any idea for the walking wake set?
I was using specs but didn't like how restricting it was
astral kelp
<@421131865983025162> for swsh?
like isnt blueberry and teal mask separate things>?
sv
lofty tartan
No
They're not separate DLC - it's bought as one pack. The Teal Mask is part 1, and the Indigo Disk is part 2
cyan smelt
Amogus
cyan smelt
Imprison Indeedee
shadow wind
Smeargle gotta be the worst mon to ever exist
I feel like I need taunt on my team
It just doesn't fit well
cyan smelt
what does smeargle do, is it spore or decorate?
shadow wind
Follow me to let CIR set up TR then I get shmoked by Iron ball Kyogre
cyan smelt
you need spread moves then
cyan smelt
then imprison
shadow wind
That doesn't just slot into a team
cyan smelt
well then you need your own tr answer
shadow wind
Gee thanks for the suggestion
cyan smelt
it's all good to go fast but you need something that can work in tr
shadow wind
Tell me something that lives Glacial Lance Water Spout in rain that functions on a sun team
cyan smelt
rockpon
shadow wind
Are you on crack
How does that live Glacial Lance and Water Spout
And Firepon for sun teams is just better
cyan smelt
i'm just trying to help, idk how to live multiple spread moves
mint void
Tell me something that lives Glacial Lance Water Spout in rain that functions on...
Tbf atp you need prio or wide guard
Or imprison TR. Nothing lives that
Maybe Ursh with bulk
Or Tera Water Moon
shadow wind
Wide guard isn't a terrible plan but it's only so good when the mons can just click single target moves
cyan smelt
i guess rotom-w is out of the question then
shadow wind
Was bro ever in the question??
cyan smelt
then wide guard it is
shadow wind
Wide guard is literally such a nothing tool though
cyan smelt
it's not nothing to force your opponent to click single target moves
tranquil kraken
<@248945583874768905> this yo man he just fell for a zoroark
cyan smelt
i need to play bo3 again
cyan smelt
ili when are you becoming world champ
spiral ridge
Shoulda ss that notif lmfao
shadow wind
When you guys are making teams in showdown do you keep the order of your moves the same across mons/teams?
cyan smelt
do you guys order least powerful moves to most powerful
shadow wind
Depends I guess
My order of moves is like this
Priority attacking moves
Stab Attacking moves
Coverage Attacking moves
Status moves
Protect
Like this set just makes me cry
It should be
Moongeist
Moonblast
CM
Wide guard
plain drum
I go
-STAB descending based on damage/accuracy
-Non-STAB, usually but doesn't have to be a secondary type (proceeded by any non-damaging moves of the same type); if more than one type, see above descending order
-All normal-type moves last specifically, going down from attacks to status/protective measures
Addendum: if my primary-type move is just status, I still put that first
shadow wind
I think my favourite archetype is screens
Groudon just took less than 50 from sun boosted lorb CC from Koraidon
Like wow
astral kelp
yeah i really want to make ateam with grimmsnarl
but specifically parting shot grimmsnarl
because thunderwave is the worst and most broken move
shadow wind
I’m currently testing out taunt Grimmsnarl
I’m not a huge fan of prio taunt just cause it gets blocked by a lot but that’s why it’s testing
But besides twave I usually run scary face
shadow wind
Although to be fair prankster taunt is also very useful
astral kelp
i wanna make a team thats just a fuck ton of switching in and out
shadow wind
Don’t want something to protect for the next couple turns? Taunt em
Amoonguss? Taunt em
astral kelp
Don’t want something to protect for the next couple turns? Taunt em
sounds really good with csr
shadow wind
I mean imprison protect does the same thing
shadow wind
Oh yeah
astral kelp
i really want to make a ho oh team that abuses regenerator
with screens and parting shot grimm
shadow wind
I originally had that but with ho oh Groudon and it probably didn’t work too well cause there weren’t any good switch ins for Grimmsnarl
solid frigate
bro wanna be Sierra Dawn so badly
astral kelp
holy shit chat am i about to run u-turn koraidon
chat am i COOKING
prolly miraidon and remove slither wing thunderous put in a scarfshifu
solid frigate
i feel bad for all of the Koraidon Mains here
astral kelp
is this the most boring possible team
bruh i lose against all the meme teams but slither wing fucking wiped that team ^
cyan smelt
why are you using slither wing
astral kelp
stab u-turn plus it looks cool (im on my throw shit at a wall and see what sticks phase)
cyan smelt
if you're running sun at least use brute bonnet which is actually viable
astral kelp
i mean im not
now im kinda invested in trying to make slither wing work consistently
cyan smelt
it won't
astral kelp
not with that mindset it wont :3
cyan smelt
double res with koraidon, miraidon, torn and kyogre everywhere idt it's working
astral kelp
yeah i feel like i would have to run sash
bro it has shit stats and shit typing like why 💀
cyan smelt
gamefreak hates bug type
real prairie
Ludicolo really does put in work https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2352365303-8jt4mh7g12g4w9r86j6jd1jwlm20guppw
astral kelp
like
real prairie
Flutter should have had less speed, its broken
can see it getting a speed nerf in gen 10
cyan smelt
miraidon needs a nerf
astral kelp
maybe they will make it 60 60 60 130 130 130
real prairie
think its more likely they just move 10 speed to HP
cyan smelt
idk they haven't nerfed calyrex yet
astral kelp
for miraidon i think maybe they nerf the ability?
i think its stats are kinda fine tbh
real prairie
Yeah but Calyrex as broken as it is, doesn't hit 307 speed
cyan smelt
they can't nerf miraidon's ability because then they'd have to nerf tapu koko
astral kelp
i mean the second part
real prairie
yeah, can see that becoming 1.2x
astral kelp
rediculously busted
cyan smelt
they nerfed grassy glide they have to nerf that too or nerf electro drift
astral kelp
1.3 * 1.3 * 1.5
i feel like volt switch is more miraidons signature ability tbh
wait what if they just made it not learn dazzling gream
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.2
cyan smelt
volt switch miraidon has forced rillabooms to run u-turn
real prairie
1.3 * 1.3 * 1.5
Specs is 1.3x1.3x1.5x1.5
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.2
cyan smelt
they can't just keep introducing progressively more busted legendaries
astral kelp
dude just base volt switch stab is 177 bp
real prairie
LOL 1.33 aswell if SE
astral kelp
if its se its dead even withgout that boost LOL
244+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift (Super Effective) vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Assault Vest Kyogre in Electric Terrain: 280-331 (135.2 - 159.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
omg it lives without e terrain tho
252+ SpA Choice Specs Miraidon Electro Drift (Super Effective) vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Assault Vest Kyogre: 160-192 (77.2 - 92.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO im actually shocked
cyan smelt
even if you force miraidon to use draco meteor there's no guarantee you win
astral kelp
not as shocked as kyogre will be if he gets hit by drift lmaol
astral kelp
even if you force miraidon to use draco meteor there's no guarantee you win
dude in the tournement this guy did a crazy play
predicted my rilla switch and helping hand draco meteor the slot
cyan smelt
big brain play
astral kelp
yeah that one stuck to me ive neveer thought about that
cyan smelt
sometimes you need to make reads to win
astral kelp
but the thing is even tho he made that crazy read the -2 spa is so inpactful that the only reason he won was because of a crit on the last turn just barely getting the kill
cyan smelt
if you position well you don't lose to luck
solid frigate
miraidon needs a nerf
Its valid imo
But yeah technically without Tera Nerfs Miraidon’s Damage already
and also
CSR did not get nerfed so idk
bold geode
they can't just keep introducing progressively more busted legendaries
I mean they can LOL
solid frigate
wait until gen 10 just Powercreep Kyogre
astral kelp
you think miraidon would be balanced if they just removed dazzling gleam as an option?
solid frigate
Dazzling Gleam is not the main issue
its the Multipliers
if they did not nerf Xerneas or Calyrex then they will not nerf Miraidon
mighty stump
Dazzling Gleam is not the main issue
i think removing spread damage makes Miraidon more manageable
solid frigate
i think removing spread damage makes Miraidon more manageable
so basically being special attacking Zacian
but what about multiplier
real prairie
is it worth running Gambit as a Lunala counter?
counters both its base and tera fairy
solid frigate
is it worth running Gambit as a Lunala counter?
not really but you can try
real prairie
finding i dont need TW as much as i can TR, but i get pretty stuck with Lunala
chrome knot
is it worth running Gambit as a Lunala counter?
the humble fighting type
cyan smelt
monke when are you making a team with munkidori
real prairie
the humble fighting type
?
cyan smelt
any fighting type destroys gambit, you'd need to run it in tr
real prairie
ah yeah, there is that. but most fall to Kyogre
chrome knot
urshifu watr
real prairie
urshifu watr
Often 1shot by Kyogre unless its sash
chrome knot
kat said it doesn’t ko and she lived and breathed kyogre in g asw so ill take her word
real prairie
Depends on the Urshifu build
252 SpA Tera Water Kyogre Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 60 HP / 196 SpD Urshifu-Rapid-Strike in Rain: 163-192 (89 - 104.9%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO
thats a bulky RSU
chrome knot
you also are assuming whatever is next to ursh also isnt just gonna outspeed
real prairie
I run scarf Kyogre, so im fine in that regard, but wideguard is an isuse with Lunala
chrome knot
oh ok so
real prairie
I can also thunder tbf
real prairie
yeah, i could thunder the urshifu and hope it wide guards
then Gambit has a free hit
but its all mind games
chrome knot
does it ??
chrome knot
then ur locked into thunder and assuming ur sucker punch/thunder
also we missing the part where this lunala is gonna also wanna change its type eventually
or the fact that lunala is USUALLY paired with koraidon…
real prairie
yes ma'am
maybe i don't change the team this close to Grand Challenge and just run with it
this feels okay:
solid frigate
monke when are you making a team with munkidori
Nah
He already done that with Infernape so give him a break
speaking of which is it just me and Monke who use Starters that are not Incin and Rilla in Reg G
astral kelp
Woo I am finally medicated lmfao
It only took like half a year and 800 dollars
Adhd be gone
real prairie
thorny beacon
hit top 500 for the first time ever ever going 43-21 on the reg i ladder 
solid frigate
hit top 500 for the first time ever ever going 43-21 on the reg i ladder <a:Squi...
noice
astral kelp
https://pokepast.es/6a5c78a8d72dae5d
wait is this just your reg g team with a caly ice
real prairie
wait is this just your reg g team with a caly ice
Few minor changes
solid frigate
hit top 500 for the first time ever ever going 43-21 on the reg i ladder <a:Squi...
Best i can do it 1513 with 60% GXE
bold geode
monke when are you making a team with munkidori
When I'm dead
I'm pinning a Munkidori team to a kill switch
spiral ridge
Munkidori my least fave of the 3 lol
real prairie
Munkidori my least fave of the 3 lol
Mojojojo looking monkey Mon
spiral ridge
Don’t you dare disrespect mojo jojo like that again
solid frigate
Munkidori my least fave of the 3 lol
its so bad that its worse than Kyurem black
spiral ridge
I’d rather have a caterpie cus at least I like looking at them
solid frigate
I’d rather have a caterpie cus at least I like looking at them
at least Butterfree is like good
in some cases
spiral ridge
Yeah I didn’t wanna say butterfree cus genuinely has a use case lmao
real prairie
Munkidori has a use case
you use it to force the opponent to target it and murder it
as everyone wants to kill it
spiral ridge
He looks like a bean
In the worst way
astral kelp
Don’t you dare disrespect mojo jojo like that again
^
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.2
astral kelp
130 106 is okay ig lmao
solid frigate
106 in this economy-
astral kelp
actually real
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.2
astral kelp
imma be real this shit is so ass
solid frigate
like greninja is more frailer but it has a wide Movepool and fast enough to outspeed Modest 252 Miraidons
munkidori has NOTHING
astral kelp
is dialga-o the best one out of these 5 ?
torn parrot
Why are the gen 7 starters all so fuckin slow
solid frigate
Why are the gen 7 starters all so fuckin slow
its a common trend ig lmao
solid frigate
is dialga-o the best one out of these 5 ?
Dialga >Palkia and Giratina
astral kelp
thought so
solid frigate
but in SWSH
Palkia>Dialga>Giratina
astral kelp
oh whys that?
solid frigate
better dynamax Attacker
Resist Kyogre
astral kelp
oh i see makes sense
1/4 damage to kyogre
BRO I WAS JUST BUILDING A TEAM I ALREADY MADE LMAO
my dumbass lmao
bold geode
I like how they just make him ugly as fuck first then just like give him nothing LMAO
astral kelp
loyal3 are so ass
bold geode
Like keep in mind this frail son of a bitch gets Fake Out AND Parting Shot
But doesn't have the bulk to use it
And you can't even use it as a frail attacker cuz like
It's not fast enough and idt it really hits hard enough at least in my experience
It's just ass
spiral ridge
But doesn't have the bulk to use it
Okay to their credit
I don’t wanna see another usable incin
astral kelp
real tho
bold geode
Okay to their credit
I don’t wanna see another usable incin
Yeah but like
Honestly it kinda makes me mad that they'd put that and give it like
No bulk at all
spiral ridge
Shoulda just not given move
astral kelp
icin is cppl at least
bold geode
Like you gotta realize Incin is also Incin cuz it has Intimidate
Like it's gonna be bulkier when it's lowering an offensive stat
It had Fake Out and U Turn before Intimidate but until it got Intimidate, it wasn't used
So Munkidori would've been fine if it had a tiny bit more bulk
But no let's fuck with a random number generator to figure out this guy's stats
spiral ridge
Like you gotta realize Incin is also Incin cuz it has Intimidate
Like it's gonn...
Yeah intim very important but
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.2
astral kelp
True actually
spiral ridge
If I saw a team of parting fo cycle that could poison
I’m out
astral kelp
Grimsnarl has parting fake out but none of them use that
spiral ridge
People use fo on grimm
astral kelp
Kid named farigirafe
real prairie
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2352453201-aonn4u8en8xsagra4rp2g33e0y99tdcpw
Ludicolo putting in a SHIFT!
left bobcat
The Mursic
left bobcat
Gravity
mighty stump
so basically being special attacking Zacian
Manageable when it's single target
solid frigate
Manageable when it's single target
fair enough
bold geode
@mighty stump do you think 100 men could take down a gorilla
mighty stump
yes lol
mighty stump
yes?
mighty stump
You're genuinely an idiot if you think a gorilla can't be taken down by 100 men
bold geode
Well the Internet been arguing and memeing about it recently
mighty stump
The internet memes and argues about stupid things
bold geode
Aight
How many people do you think the gorilla gets before it's taken down
mighty stump
Probably 25
bold geode
Yeah
I loved this video where they were like "we'll fight in the jungle, make it fair" like bruh you're giving it home court?
I think the gorilla gets closer to 50
bold geode
My thing is like
People are gonna see the gorilla brutally murder at least one of em
You think ALL of the other 99 are gonna fight after that
Y'know what
Probably 25
But if we give the gorilla home court advantage, closer to 40-50
mighty stump
10 people could probably figure out a plan
bold geode
Yeah probably
Idk I just love watching the argument
Cuz it proves how simple men can be
Like it's like that one meme where the woman is like "I bet he's thinking of other women"
And the dudes just like "hmmm
Yeah I bet 100 dudes could Fist fight a gorilla"
spiral ridge
Dude human civilization came to be by us being social hunters
I hope we win in groups
Our ancestors hunted wooly mammoths by chasing them til they were tired
I think 100 all at once could restrain and fuck up a gorilla
solid frigate
why are we talking about Gorilla vs Humans-
bold geode
Yeah I think we could probably get it
Like I think we could take down the gorilla, but there'd be quite a bit of casualties
bold geode
why are we talking about Gorilla vs Humans-
Do you think 100 men could take down a gorilla?
Keep in mind
No weapons involved
dense latch
how much damage can a human actually do to a gorilla
i feel like a fist wouldn't do shit to it
solid frigate
Do you think 100 men could take down a gorilla?
are they like gym bros or like norml average people
strange fjord
heavy casualties on the men side but they probably win bc the gorilla cant attack from all sides and will get tired after some time.
solid frigate
cuz either the boys gonna overwhlem them
But the Gorilla has a speed advantage imo
strange fjord
gorilla probably will go crazy in the beginning but they cant keep it up for too long.
solid frigate
do we allow tatical retreat
strange fjord
tactical retreat probably hurts men side bc that gives gorilla time to recover stamina
dense latch
i do think the 100 dudes need a strong strat
try to subdue the gorilla somehow between the 100 ppl
solid frigate
100 Dudes has teamwork advantage tho
bold geode
are they like gym bros or like norml average people
Whatever
Just 100 men vs a gorilla
mental mason
100 dudes will probably scare the gorilla into running away.
strange fjord
What about 100 Gorillas vs 1 Man?
bold geode
No both you and the gorilla are throwing hands