competitive_discussion

[shadow wind]

Which ones are those?

[spiral ridge]

NKG and zote

[shadow wind]

Oh nah I got those guys

[craggy dagger]

not sure about pantheon 4 but there are skippable bosses if you don’t fight them in base game

[spiral ridge]

Damn nice

Much better than me

[shadow wind]

P5 that last stretch is going to kill me

[spiral ridge]

Get ready and Goodluck

[shadow wind]

Markoth
Zote
Failed Champ

All in a row

💀

At least if I'm goated I get to have like a billion lifeblood hearts

[spiral ridge]

Jesus

Failed champ isn’t bad at least

Markoth melts to spells
Zote just shit

[shadow wind]

Spells that I don't get 😔

[spiral ridge]

Pft

[shadow wind]

I can hold a single spell

Also I don't know why but Failed champ is like my kryptonite

I literally just did P4 and I almost died to him then did PV hitless

[spiral ridge]

Jesus

[shadow wind]

I mean PV is choreographed so it isn't insane

[spiral ridge]

OHH

Pure vessel bro I thought you meant P5

[shadow wind]

Oh nah P5 hitless would be insane

[spiral ridge]

Pure vessel I just get too nervous on and fuck up

[spiral ridge]

I was gonna say what the fuck 😭

[mint void]

.

I also take other stuff

[shadow wind]

Do you just want any team or what?

[shadow wind]

It is a very very epic fight

I gotta enter my absrad training arc

No charms is so cooked

By far the worst binding

[mint void]

Ab Reg I team

2hrs train im bored

[shadow wind]

https://pokepast.es/6dbc131d0ca043e9

[spiral ridge]

Yeah

[shadow wind]

Nail binding is pretty bad though

[mint void]

Take

[astral kelp]

ehh i feel like theres a big chance of it getting delayed imma be real

holy dude nice

my save got wiped when i was going for it ;-;

[mint void]

@shadow wind cool team man

Whos is that?

[shadow wind]

Huh?

Mine

And thanks !

[mint void]

.

[shadow wind]

Yeah I made it today

[mighty stump]

ngl if you have sun i thinn scarf is way better

[turbid vale]

can anyone help me build a team with gholdengo

with any strategy u just gonna tell me hell i can even go with perish song

[chrome knot]

tofu

[next stump]

gm people

[chrome knot]

gm dillon

[mint void]

I think so too after playing. Specs hasnt mattered yet where scarf could have

[mint void]

Ok

@turbid vale doubles/VGC?

[turbid vale]

doubles

[mint void]

https://pokepast.es/a945a8cb3472bf23

@turbid vale un Tested slapped on in 5 mins use at own risk but doesnt seem horrible at first glance

[turbid vale]

what strategy

[mint void]

Tail Room, Imprison on CIR against hard TR/slower teams

Idk if its necessary. i think Dengo and CIR can musle through TR pretty well if Imprison is replced by protect next to Ogerpon redirecting while imprison completly shuts off opposing CIR

Tailwind+Water Spout from Moon and Ogre do tons of dmg. You might want more speed on Kyogre. It just outspeeds Scarf ChiYu in Tailwind like this.
Lando is made to outspeed Modest Kyogre in all conditions but TR useful after knocking of a Choice Scarf

Dengo underspeed Urshifu Dark in TR and would be the main mode next to CIR. While saying that...I think a specs set is better to just have immediate damage in TR since you cant lead it if u want to have TR. It would be a solid lead into a team that wants TR where u cant deny it using the 1st turn to setup and spam Make it Rain in TR as u outspeed most incin, Lunala, Smeargel and Urshifu in TR as well as cant be put to sleep by Amoonguss

[astral kelp]

WAIT

[mint void]

@turbid vale

[astral kelp]

imprision calyrex is genius

[mint void]

@astral kelp nuhuh

Nothing new

[astral kelp]

cool doe right

[mint void]

Might not even be that great here since dengo can take great advantage if the opponent setting up TR

[astral kelp]

i dont get dengo tbh

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 1000: Gholdengo

Types

Steel/Ghost

Abilities

Good as Gold

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

87/60/95/133/91/84

Total

550

Sableye version 4.28.1

[mint void]

Noticed I didnt give CIR speed EVs. Its eved to take a Edrift on Terrain rn for bulk. You can either drop bulk or dmg to get CIR to a speed where it outspeeds Modest Mirai in TW or leave as is

[astral kelp]

i mean he wont underspeed much in trick room

[mint void]

They asked for it

[astral kelp]

oh ic

[mint void]

Nah he underspeeds quite a bit

Its just slapped on quick and Im not familar with the meta game of Reg I yet so Id have to iron outspeed tiers and bulk

[astral kelp]

right ic

yeah i havent seen gholdengo in a looong time

which is kinda weird because he feels insane sometimes

i guess its just because you have better options

and csr exists

[mint void]

+I think this probably isnt a good team given Dengo was forced on it. While it kinda walls Zama it needs tera to power through CSR onslaughts

And I feel like he is mid af into Lunala

[astral kelp]

yeah bad into lunala and csr which are HUGE in the format rn

maybe tera normal gholdengo might have a nieshe actually now that i think about it

tera normal specs sounds interesting

[mint void]

Well he hits for 4x and tera gives it at least one shot so not that horrible as long as I figure out the right speed tier. A higher one that outspeeds CARin TW but underspeeds lunala in TR would prolly be neat

[mint void]

Ngl this dengo is just meant to sit in TR and spam Make it Rain

[astral kelp]

ye that sounds good

could be worth a try

honestly whenever i see a ghost type i just think
why not just use fluttermane?

in this team you have roaring moon so that makes sense

roaring moon and no sun

[charred saddle]

dengo and flutter fulfills a very different role

[astral kelp]

i just personally feel like steel is kind of a mid to shit tier offensive type

[charred saddle]

dengo burst with make it rain

but doesnt have utilities

[astral kelp]

yeah lol thats true

[foggy lodge]

There was a cool Miraidon Dengo team that got top 32 at EUIC

Is really cool

https://pokepast.es/b6dc21c79e9bdfb9

[astral kelp]

oph interesting

non tailroom dengo

[left bobcat]

Same thangs

[astral kelp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663757541343363073/1356496914220322968/hitmontop.gif

[astral kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[mighty stump]

gm

[chrome knot]

haaii

[lofty tartan]

👋

Hope everyone's having a great morning. I'm off to bed

[plain drum]

[turbid vale]

yes

[lost sun]

how has this guys cir outsped my kyogre when my kyogre has more speed than max speed cir

he used protect and glacial lance so it's not scarfed and my urshifu moved first so it's not quick claw

he had a sitrus berry so obv not an item

no tw either

[forest arrow]

Goodnight buddy

[solid frigate]

Tailroom CIR?

[lost sun]

neither were up

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2344035538

[dense latch]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2344086204-74lsmjlb8lkv3bfqwxv7f5lw12i2syapw

252+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Close Combat (120 BP) vs. +1 252 HP / 4 Def Tera Water Calyrex-Ice: 54-64 (26 - 30.9%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO

trying out a new team lower down this game was crazy lol

[tiny karma]

Move: Moongeist Beam

This move and its effects ignore the Abilities of other Pokemon.

Type

Ghost

Category

Special

Power

100

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[left bobcat]

GIGGLE

[mint void]

If you are playing on showdown send the replays in sir

[lost sun]

this was in-game

[solid frigate]

spoiler alert: ||he does not have scarf||

[chrome knot]

hmmm

[left bobcat]

What in the reg f

[solid frigate]

I AM THE STORM THAT IS APPROACHING

[left bobcat]

I had to look twice

I was like wait something ain’t right

[solid frigate]

they probably trying to predict my restricted leads and use them against me so that they did not bring Kyogre

[left bobcat]

Welp

[solid frigate]

having two of the same mon makes it predictable i guess-

[left bobcat]

The more you know

[foggy lodge]

Porygon2

[solid frigate]

it feels good tho

[foggy lodge]

What does it do that Farigiraf doesn't?

Extra bulk?

[solid frigate]

yes

and I tried Fari for a while

its literally the same issue as last time in Bham

i don't like to use Fari-

[foggy lodge]

Idk I feel like anti prio works too damn well for that team lol

Water spout/Miraidon pressure

[solid frigate]

it really did not help-

[spiral ridge]

What about Indee?

Oh yeah mirai nvm

[solid frigate]

Miraidon.

[foggy lodge]

Its a Miraidon team

[spiral ridge]

I was focusing on kyogre oops

[solid frigate]

i just don't think Fari is comfortable for me rn

[dense latch]

how does p2 differ and how is it helping the team

[solid frigate]

reverse TR

Which i can't do that well with Fari

[dense latch]

are you using tr yourself too? feels like a waste of a slot to have it only reverse trick room

[solid frigate]

4-2 team hello

i still use TR its just only for circumstances i need

[dense latch]

with hands i imagine yea i just looked at the team again

[solid frigate]

plus why the fuck not cuz I can’t use Farigiraf

first time in Bham Regionals and now here

[atomic mural]

Peak gameplay

[shadow wind]

Oh for sure I just wanted to blow everything up

Did 65 to a Kyogre using heat wave

[opal ruin]

who 1v1

[mint void]

@opal ruin #1046572041421197352

[left bobcat]

Bro

[bold geode]

Fuck this guy honestly

[spiral ridge]

Bro fucking went back three hours to hate

[bold geode]

Yeah bro fuck you

I'll shit in your garden

[spiral ridge]

Thanks that’s Lowkey nice

[bold geode]

Right
I gotta fertilize your plants

[solid frigate]

let nature do its thing

i love ducks

[spiral ridge]

I’m a flying P2 fan

[solid frigate]

fair enough

[spiral ridge]

Makes ape go bye bye in reg H

[solid frigate]

this time Tera ghost make CSR go bye bye

[spiral ridge]

Fair

[solid frigate]

+1 0- Atk Tera Ghost Porygon2 Tera Blast (80 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Shadow: 244-292 (138.6 - 165.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[spiral ridge]

Atk?

Even with atk boost shouldn’t your spa be higher?

[solid frigate]

it counts on download ability+Enemy's Bulk

[spiral ridge]

Gotcha

Spread I had spa was always higher

[solid frigate]

yeah thats why my P2 set does not have any Offensive invest

[chrome knot]

hi make ur p2 spatk higher than ur atk@+1 so tera blast stays special lmao

[solid frigate]

around how much btw

[spiral ridge]

Yeah this lady made my P2 spread :3

[chrome knot]

being 0atk modest pushes u over already lol

RE : SIN (Porygon2) @ Eviolite
Ability: Download
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 252 HP / 108 Def / 44 SpA / 100 SpD / 4 Spe
Modest Nature

• Tera Blast
• Ice Beam
• Recover
• Trick Room

regh p2 which can prob still be used

change tera ofc

[solid frigate]

i'll take it ig

[bold geode]

Reg H stinky

[chrome knot]

it was aight

i just sucked at it

[left bobcat]

Jajajajaja

[astral kelp]

is porygon 2 usabale in reg I?
its one of my favorite mons but i havent been able to find a reason to fit it in

[astral kelp]

ayo thats crazy

wait nvm idk why i read it as ice blast or something

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 233: Porygon2

Type

Normal

Abilities

Trace, Download, Analytic (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

85/80/90/105/95/60

Total

515

Sableye version 4.28.1

[rustic mountain]

reg h slander? smh

[chrome knot]

tree tree tree

i found team i fw

[solid frigate]

i just only slander Sneasler cuz that thing took me 20 Minutes to figure out Archaludon's Tera

[bold geode]

I bet it's so smelly just like you

[chrome knot]

electro drift

[bold geode]

Oh you went biking haven't you

[rustic mountain]

[chrome knot]

volt switches u

[bold geode]

U Turns with Rillaboom to regain my terrain at any moment

[rustic mountain]

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/chi-yu-spin-rotate-pokemon-scarlet-violet-gif-2551289956493589259

[bold geode]

[chrome knot]

chi yu moves first

[rustic mountain]

shiny chi yu wen

[bold geode]

Me when Kyogre

[rustic mountain]

[chrome knot]

i sure hope not

ur gettin blown away

[rustic mountain]

[bold geode]

Um
Nuh Uh

[chrome knot]

ferropalmas

[bold geode]

I have this other way to win

[rustic mountain]

🙌

[chrome knot]

oohhhh

he shoots me with a gun

[bold geode]

Sign the slip Emma

[chrome knot]

im dead i cannoy

now they cannot confirm a winner sorry..

[bold geode]

No no I haven't shot you yet

But I could
Just sign the slip

[rustic mountain]

[chrome knot]

tree

[rustic mountain]

yo

[chrome knot]

cheer for me lots when i go milwaukee

[rustic mountain]

sure

[chrome knot]

[plain drum]

Go team

[rustic mountain]

gl

[plain drum]

I tried

[rustic mountain]

wen is milwaukee

[brisk void]

does anyone have a good spread for a choice scarf chi yu

[shadow wind]

Groudon locked in !

[dense latch]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-impossible-marvel-shocked-gif-15104180

[shadow wind]

Now what if I just ran band

Might lowkey run lorb

Miraidon + Farig murders Incin

[rustic mountain]

https://x.com/IncinPkmn/status/1912592623270772935

Incineroar (@IncinPkmn) on X

Incineroar action chart

X · Apr 16, 2025, 7:43 PM

[shadow wind]

😔

[dense latch]

https://x.com/Uru910/status/1912662456867991576

Richard Watterson (@Uru910) on X

@IncinPkmn Ok but what if

X · Apr 17, 2025, 12:20 AM

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 895: Regidrago

Type

Dragon

Abilities

Dragon's Maw

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

200/100/50/100/50/80

Total

580

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

i wonder if av regidrago could be a thing

[rustic mountain]

[dense latch]

saw yotam face body press imprison grimmsnarl you might as well do that for the last moveslot

[rustic mountain]

thats wild

[dense latch]

https://x.com/Bruneaux/status/1912323208478343272 found it

Bruneaux (@Bruneaux) on X

I just watched @_yotam_ lose to the hardest anti-Zamazenta tech for a Terapagos team

X · Apr 16, 2025, 1:52 AM

[rustic mountain]

ahh yes i love a screenshot that displays nothing showing me of whats taking place outside the board position

[spiral ridge]

body press imprison grimmsnarl

gotta click cus twtitter embeds suck dick

[rustic mountain]

ahhh ok was gna say i wanna see the reaction ik whats goin on in that sense

[spiral ridge]

he laughed his ass off

[rustic mountain]

haha

the look of confusion as he asks what r u imprisoning

cuz like same

[dense latch]

lol mb i didnt know it wouldn't work without going on twitter

[rustic mountain]

its fine i watched it didnt realize it didnt embed the actual vid

[plain drum]

May 2-4 I think

[rustic mountain]

oh wow

2 days into the new format "officially"

[plain drum]

Interesting

[rustic mountain]

not really, they did worlds barely a month into reg d iirc, they just dont care

[dense latch]

still don't get what they were thinking with that one

[shadow wind]

Guys I've come to the conclusion that having 18 moves that can miss is not the play

So no more meteor beam Lunala

I don't even wanna run Groudon Chi yu

[rustic mountain]

so u just missed a crucial meteor beam for the 100th time?

[shadow wind]

Yeah 😔

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

That Tornadus would've been cooked

[rustic mountain]

damn

[shadow wind]

They clicked bleakwind too

I had the turn and then tragedy struck

[rustic mountain]

yea thats rough

[shadow wind]

But yknow

One missed meteor beam vs a million missed moves

[rustic mountain]

def gta weigh the value of the move vs its consistency

[shadow wind]

Which is why Lunala will be supportive now

Something like this probably

[rustic mountain]

doesnt mean not inaccurate but how many r u willing to go? b/w chi yu groudon and lunala id imagine many moments of disappointment

[shadow wind]

I've never loved Chi yu Groudon

Seeing that I clicked Pblade and heat wave is just bad

[rustic mountain]

nd thats why chi yu didnt hit its moves for u

[shadow wind]

Not enough love

[rustic mountain]

groudon knows ull run it no matter what

chi yu didnt feel that same love

[shadow wind]

Chi yu was indeed replaceable

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

Even though it did 60 to a Kyogre with heat wave before

[rustic mountain]

had to b specs

[shadow wind]

Specs tera fire

[rustic mountain]

yea makes sense

[shadow wind]

In the sun

[rustic mountain]

cuz kyogres got good sp def

[shadow wind]

If I would've clicked overheat it would've died

I don't want to run Tailroom for the 24th time but Groudon and Lunala are just not fast enough

[rustic mountain]

unless u miss

[shadow wind]

😔

Why I will never gamble with money

[rustic mountain]

if it works

[shadow wind]

Groudon and Lunala are like the poster children of Tailroom

90 and 97 speed are not fast enough

[rustic mountain]

generally not yea

[shadow wind]

I wonder if choice band Ursh is extremely greedy

[rustic mountain]

guess ull find out

[shadow wind]

Guess so yeah

[rustic mountain]

it probably is tho tbh

with ur team comp

[shadow wind]

Sash would be better most likely

[rustic mountain]

that or scarf

[shadow wind]

Hmm

How fast should Ogerpon be?

No TW

[rustic mountain]

prolly atleast outspeed adamant shifu

[shadow wind]

Seems valid

[rustic mountain]

i dont exactly know what ud wanna hit overall tho since this format is kinda different

[shadow wind]

Yeah it is

Adamant shifu seems valid though

[rustic mountain]

and ive been taking a break for like almost a week now

[shadow wind]

Speaking of adamant shifu

That's exactly what I'm runnin

[rustic mountain]

yea

im running adamant but its scarf

[shadow wind]

Ah ok

[rustic mountain]

really more for the sash variants

[shadow wind]

I guess scary face Grimm allows me to run normal TW speeds

Eh I guess I'll see

Screw me I guess

Goggles will be going on Lunala

[astral kelp]

[astral kelp]

btw ive been considering this

it sounds kinda crazy no?

[shadow wind]

Crazy bad maybe

Gets stopped by a lot

[astral kelp]

yeah grass and safety goggles

[shadow wind]

Prio block

[astral kelp]

oh true i didnt consider dark types

or psychic terrain and fari

[torn parrot]

I need a hug chat

Times are hard

[astral kelp]

you okeee?

i want to go outside and touch grass but theres a fucking hurricane

[mighty stump]

https://x.com/pokemonshowdown/status/1912675462712549646?s=46&t=NSIK9f9OViHUJnm37QZcEQ

Pokémon Showdown (@PokemonShowdown) on X

Update alert! Thanks to hecate, the team-sharing functionality has been overhauled. You can check it out at https://t.co/ev6wvg5ADC

- New static pages with shortlinks to easily share teams with friends, on or off PS! (check out my cool BDSP OU team: https://t.co/ze3DnS4Lft)
-

X · Apr 17, 2025, 1:12 AM

[mighty stump]

hug chat

[astral kelp]

tornados is like right outside my door help

the rain will give him a 100% accuracy on bleakwind storm

[astral kelp]

thats awesome!

[solid frigate]

hug

[torn parrot]

Thank you all

[torn parrot]

Too much going on at once 😔

Too many hurdles to overcome

[solid frigate]

have a duck

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-porygon-porygon2-love-gif-9521308133006980825

[astral kelp]

oh man i get that

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/663757541343363073/1356496914220322968/hitmontop.gif

have a hitmontop lol

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-revenge-tasty-johnnyduck-gif-18410951520284892563

[sharp cobalt]

Thankies

[sharp cobalt]

...

[solid frigate]

duck

[astral kelp]

oh my god

i think i just had my unluckiest game

this dude got 4 crits

all of them were like
if this doesnt crit i win

and 2 sleep powders but thats whatever

[solid frigate]

me with double freeze in 2 games:

[astral kelp]

💀

[solid frigate]

this is nothing to me now

[astral kelp]

this game is just pain sometimes

anyways i think i can now comfortably say that ursaluna is dog

at least how im running him

time to give csr back his red ball

[sharp cobalt]

I should run my hax queen Miltank, but its not in SV

[astral kelp]

miltank my beloved

[solid frigate]

whitney of VGC when

[sharp cobalt]

Ursaluna isnt good anymore?

[solid frigate]

its ok

still usrable

[astral kelp]

one of the only cards i have left from my trading era is an oooold milktank

[astral kelp]

hah ursable

[sharp cobalt]

I want a shiny Miltank

[astral kelp]

10/10

i wish pokemon made a game that didnt have the whole dexit bullshit

there are so many cool pokemon its so lame that we cant use them all

[sharp cobalt]

Pokemon champions hopefully

[astral kelp]

i think this is all oft them

[sharp cobalt]

For champions?

[astral kelp]

its kind of a weirdly small list

of mons not in sv

[sharp cobalt]

They should really give us some details, they said it would be released for switch

[astral kelp]

wikie wtf did xatu do

[sharp cobalt]

dracovish rightfully there

[astral kelp]

im pretty sure dracovish deserved it from what ive heard

[sharp cobalt]

It wrecked smogon, it was hilarious

[astral kelp]

omg cubone isnt in

[sharp cobalt]

I wonder if orbeetle could b any good

[astral kelp]

i fucking love cubone

[astral kelp]

thats one of the mons i have like never seen before

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 826: Orbeetle

Types

Bug/Psychic

Abilities

Swarm, Frisk, Telepathy (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/45/110/80/120/90

Total

505

Sableye version 4.28.1

[sharp cobalt]

Its got decent defenses and a usable speed

[astral kelp]

isnt this just

[sharp cobalt]

And gets good abilities in frisk and telepathy

[astral kelp]

wait whasts the name

[sharp cobalt]

Rabsca?

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 954: Rabsca

Types

Bug/Psychic

Abilities

Synchronize, Telepathy (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/50/85/115/100/45

Total

470

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

yeah HAH

[sharp cobalt]

Rabsca is TR tho

[astral kelp]

yea

its a cool mon

i love explosion revival blesssing

YO THAT GOES SO HARD

you feel kinda bad for these mons with them only existing for 1 game

[sharp cobalt]

Notable moves I can find in Orbeetles pool

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2344656042-b6xn0fngouleqp61bxq0ytasp2b0gecpw

[sharp cobalt]

Sorry work interrupted me

[astral kelp]

this dudes team was amazing

[tiny karma]

Orbeetle's moveset:

Physical Moves

Body Press, Facade, Giga Impact, Leech Life, Payback, Psycho Cut, U-turn, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Bug Buzz, Confusion, Energy Ball, Expanding Force, Future Sight, Giga Drain, Hyper Beam, Infestation, Mirror Coat, Psybeam, Psychic, Psyshock, Round, Shadow Ball, Snore, Solar Beam, Stored Power, Struggle Bug

Status Moves

After You, Agility, Ally Switch, Attract, Baton Pass, Calm Mind, Confuse Ray, Endure, Guard Swap, Helping Hand, Hypnosis, Imprison, Iron Defense, Light Screen, Magic Coat, Magic Room, Power Swap, Protect, Psychic Terrain, Recover, Reflect, Rest, Safeguard, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Sticky Web, Substitute, Supersonic, Trick, Trick Room, Wonder Room

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Orbeetle.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

e force struggle bug

ig sticky web in singles

u turn is pretty good

wtf is "Round"

[tiny karma]

Move: Round

If there are other active Pokemon that chose this move for use this turn, those Pokemon take their turn immediately after the user, in Speed order, and this move's power is 120 for each other user.

Type

Normal

Category

Special

Power

60

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Authentic

Bypasses substitute.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sound

Does not affect Soundproof.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

wtf?

[sharp cobalt]

Ally switch and screens and imprison

[astral kelp]

omg wtf everything leanrns round in gen 8

hypnosis could be good

decently fast after you

[sharp cobalt]

Yeah its movepool is honenstly not bad, just the typing

[cyan smelt]

Farigiraf is just better

Only positive is resisting body press

[mint void]

Wolfey made a team arnd round in Gen 8 VGC

Its the same mechanic as the pledges just the move doesnt get combined to only 1

[astral kelp]

its interesting lol

doesnt sound too bad tbh

ursaluna blood moon with a really fast mon could be crazy with it surelty

[mint void]

Meh bloodmoon is still just better

TW Bloodmoon just makes more sense

Its maybe neat for Porygon and Sylveon but thats it

[astral kelp]

gohdam i didnt expect that lmao

[sharp cobalt]

Murkrow said 'I''m a support, but...'

[mighty stump]

When the STAB x4 Supereffective move KOs

https://tenor.com/view/surprised-pikachu-pokemon-shock-surprised-pikachu-gif-15357817

[astral kelp]

i didnt know csr had enough atk to one shot itself

[cyan smelt]

85 plus it's not very bulky

Plus 4x weakness

[solid frigate]

I’m a Healer ahhh meme

[lofty tartan]

Been saying this about Murkrow since Reg G 1 started and now it's come full circle, once again

Know your calcs

https://tenor.com/view/gi-joe-knowing-is-half-the-battle-knowing-battle-gif-25791425

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/morgan-freeman-true-morgan-freeman-true-nodding-gif-13973817878387504960

[astral kelp]

AYOO

THIS GAME IS STUPID

[wispy spade]

Why does it still say super effective when it's much more than that?

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/whatsup-whats-up-sup-foo-gif-13613573

[chrome knot]

mikaaaa mikaaaa

[lofty tartan]

Time for me to catch some zzzs

Maybe a big schedule change coming soon where I get to have normal person hours. That'll be nice

Dm me if you wanna talk and I'll reply later

[bold geode]

You love to see it

[bold geode]

EMMMMAAAA

[chrome knot]

monke gm

[chrome knot]

goodnightsies but i found a team i like

[cyan smelt]

Hiya em hi monke hi mika

[bold geode]

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/c0f8c356389691ed

[solid frigate]

noice team

fuck all my testing

here's the final result for my mirai Ogre team

[karmic oak]

I need to make a good kyogre team what’s some recommended team mates?

[wispy spade]

Incin without a fire move

For the rest you can just hit randomize

[karmic oak]

So wait is reg I current reg

[mint void]

Check the pins if you need a Reg G team

Same for Reg I but less choices

[karmic oak]

I haven’t played competing since like start of Scarlett and Violet so no clue what I can/ can’t use

[mint void]

Legit no point in asking for a Kyogre team if you dont have a rough idea of what you want. Just go with a already established team for now

[karmic oak]

I mean I shiny hunted tornadus and saw that he works with kyogre so shiny hunting kyogre for a team

[mint void]

Reg I will be up in 2 weeks but is playable on Showdown already

[karmic oak]

So I guess tornadus kyogre would be a start?

[mint void]

You can just go with a balance team and add a 2nd restricted with some synergy

Incin, Rill/Ammonnguss, Urshifu

Or have a look at the repository in pins

For some other ideas

[wispy spade]

[karmic oak]

Who would you recommend as second restricted I’m eyeing up zacian or zam as they may work?

[mint void]

Yep

They are decent

[karmic oak]

I was debating maybe yvelatal or xern but idk if they would synergies

[mint void]

They arent in the game

[karmic oak]

Oh 😭

Would a miraidon shout be crazy

[left bobcat]

Yes

[lost sun]

I use kyogre mirai

pretty good

[chrome knot]

mirai lunala my beloved

[solid frigate]

ahem.

https://tenor.com/view/dan-heng-il-imbibitor-lunae-ultimate-ult-burst-dhil-gif-16066173447133932836

[chrome knot]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/GosSTp6WkAASa1i.gif

[left bobcat]

Hey

[next stump]

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X · Apr 17, 2025, 9:00 PM

[warped mason]

How are we feeling about scarf ogre in this format

Thinking of trying to build a team with it

[mint void]

o

k

[solid frigate]

its ok but as a person who use Kyogre in Reg I

Don't go for it if you hav Urshifu

[foggy lodge]

I was using mystic water

[rustic mountain]

just faced an icy wind thunder wave kyogre

[spiral ridge]

Teehee

Funny sets

[rustic mountain]

over 1600 too not like they were even doing bad w/ it which worries me

[spiral ridge]

I mean

It’s not a new idea for second restricted to be more supportive

Wide guard trick room lunala

It’s just a weird choice of one 😭

[shadow wind]

Twave will o wisp Groudon 🙏🙏

[rustic mountain]

exactly haha

[spiral ridge]

I mean it’s fairly bulky

Actually wait I’m thinking AV bulk can’t twave with that 😭

An AV ogre with icy wind actually sounds kinda good..

[rustic mountain]

it has good bulk its just i dont think its a good way of utilizing it

like having bulk to click icy wind/t wave

[spiral ridge]

Yeah

Honestly now I wanna test AV icy wind as I loved AV ogre as one of my first teams

[rustic mountain]

if im in a position where i can click a spread move w/ kyogre icy wind is very low on the list of moves on it id want to click

[spiral ridge]

Fair

I’m kinda thinking a board position where second restrict protects and it gets icy off to let both hit next turn for spread

[warped mason]

would u guys say that the best restricteds to pair with ogre are, mirai, zacian and caly ice?

[chrome knot]

i have a replay of that team asw LMAO

my friend sent it & said he was traumatized

[dense latch]

kyogre cosplaying flutter is crazy

[deep shadow]

Can someone help me make a team for scarlet I am thinking based around vaporeon

[rustic mountain]

haha insanity

[rustic mountain]

frfr

[chrome knot]

@rustic mountain arr u free this weekend

[rustic mountain]

i should b around a little bit

[chrome knot]

yay

wanna run 388876543334778 sets

[rustic mountain]

id run like 2-3 sets maybe

[chrome knot]

so like 8 billion right

[rustic mountain]

im p rusty on bo3

[shadow wind]

How slow do some people run Ursh??

[chrome knot]

i used to only put a 4 lol

[shadow wind]

With scarf?

[chrome knot]

mystic

scarf is just 4 236 4 12 252

[shadow wind]

This guy might've been running that

My Terapagos outsped

[chrome knot]

whats ur pagos speed stat

[shadow wind]

I feel like this team should have speed

[shadow wind]

Max speed modest

Which is still only 137 speed

[chrome knot]

right

you outspeed my ursh too lmao

granted im more bulk & max adamant

[shadow wind]

Fair

[chrome knot]

ho oh is gonna click tw when ur not looking

[shadow wind]

My Roaring moon outsped everything still

Team was slow as balls

[chrome knot]

lmfao

what was name of that account u just played

[deep shadow]

Is it possible to have vaporeon, clodsire and dragapult all on the same team or is that just not good

[chrome knot]

bc ik friend whos going to milwaukee is also trying csr ho oh but idk the other 4

[chrome knot]

singles or doubles

[deep shadow]

Either

[chrome knot]

alright & terrible

clod & pult are good in singles

[shadow wind]

Uhhhh

[chrome knot]

vaporeon is like spdef wall

[shadow wind]

TailwindMakeitrain

[chrome knot]

ik who that is lmao

[deep shadow]

Could you help make a team I dunno how to :,)

[shadow wind]

😭

[chrome knot]

i do mot play singles sry

[deep shadow]

Ooft o7

I think I wanna play doubles but I dunno

It seems like most people play singles

[dense latch]

i face that person all the time on ladder lmao

[shadow wind]

I've played them before but it's been a while

[chrome knot]

most play doubles as its our official format :3

[shadow wind]

Also my team cannot hit Zama 💀

[deep shadow]

Oh really??

What’s a good doubles team could I have one based on vaporeon?

[chrome knot]

noo

vaporeon bad,,,

[deep shadow]

Rip she’s my partner Pokémon

[forest arrow]

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X · Apr 17, 2025, 11:20 PM

[deep shadow]

How about dragapult

[chrome knot]

also kinda bad in current format

[deep shadow]

Slither wing?

[chrome knot]

unuseable

[deep shadow]

Clodsire?

[chrome knot]

also unuseable

[deep shadow]

Lapras?

Gastradon?

[shadow wind]

You need to get some more competitively viable favourites man

[deep shadow]

I dunno who’s meta atm

Lemme go look

[shadow wind]

https://munchstats.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3/0/Incineroar

This shows the most used mons

[deep shadow]

Ooo I do like Latias

Nvm he’s singles

Cresselia??

[shadow wind]

This team feels weird but I don't know what's wrong with it

[dense latch]

you’re a few years late

[rustic mountain]

it was good in sv

[deep shadow]

What’s ou

[rustic mountain]

overly used its a smogon format

[deep shadow]

But like singles?

[rustic mountain]

singles

[chrome knot]

koraidon pagos is good

[rustic mountain]

u think conner is ever gna not run groudon?

[chrome knot]

what do i do if my favourite is lurantis.

[shadow wind]

Koraidon can go die in a hole

[shadow wind]

Make bug salad

[chrome knot]

he asked whats wrong wirh it

the solution seems obvious

[rustic mountain]

haha ik

its just 1 ik he wont go for

[lofty tartan]

Run Lurantis

[deep shadow]

So is dragapult good in singles ?

[lofty tartan]

[rustic mountain]

as mentioned b4 most ppl here dont play singles

[lofty tartan]

Can I choose Ray Rizzo for my Restricted mon?

[rustic mountain]

so we wouldnt be able to really tell u wats good in it

[deep shadow]

Oki

[rustic mountain]

id join the smogon discord

much more ppl thatd b able to help u w/ wat ur lookin for

[shadow wind]

Well that solution is off the table

[rustic mountain]

yes

[lofty tartan]

Sick

[deep shadow]

Bet Ty

[gentle crag]

kirboo_o has given 1 Gen Rep to treeco.

[shadow wind]

I'll die before I give up Groudon

Cause if I'm not playing to make him work I don't have a reason to play

[rustic mountain]

rip to wen groudon isnt allowed

[shadow wind]

That's when I full sweat

Because I'm allowed to

[chrome knot]

ngl i almost did in the Toronto day 2 cup

Kat and I found a cool lurantis psyspam team LOL

[rustic mountain]

[lofty tartan]

Lurantis is one of those things that could've probably done fine in Reg H on the right team

[rustic mountain]

[lofty tartan]

Reg H was a fun ride

[rustic mountain]

was way too overhated

[shadow wind]

I just hated sneasler with a passion, everything else was fine

[rustic mountain]

eh

even sneasler like the format developed

[lofty tartan]

You just had to play Sneasler or play to beat Sneasler. Or both. Usually both.

[rustic mountain]

it really wasnt as annoying by formats end

[lofty tartan]

Sneasler was fine.

[rustic mountain]

i look at wat we have now and

its laughable ppl had a problem w/ sneasler but u hear way less w/ all the actual broken guys

[lofty tartan]

Troof

I just expected Sneasler on 90% of teams at Toronto and other pieces were usually more problematic, honestly.

Sneasler was just the good fighting linchpin

[rustic mountain]

it still did well throughout the format dont get me wrong but there were a lot of teams that won or found success w/o it

[lofty tartan]

Absolutely

[rustic mountain]

reg h was cool

also the fact a mon like sneasler even got to shine

where are the ppl that said sneasler was gna b good even after reg h?

[chrome knot]

she just doesnt do enough

takes too long to get her going

and when the format has the most cheap mfs ever

she kinda sucks ;(

[lofty tartan]

I was fully behind the Sneasler train pre-H, and even I recognize that Urshifu bullies the crap out of him

[rustic mountain]

haha yea ik u were never in that crowd

[lofty tartan]

Too many things crush him in G+

[rustic mountain]

but other ppl felt like its hidden potential was unlocked and itd somehow still have relevancy

yea exactly

[lofty tartan]

Yeah I saw that.

I just couldn't believe xD

[rustic mountain]

like oh u maybe poison/para/sleep something or u just get ko'd, seems really consistent

[lofty tartan]

There's no time to status fish off Dire Claw in high-power formats

[chrome knot]

i got 3 tourneys soon and i literally look like this, am i cooked?

[rustic mountain]

[rustic mountain]

the tempo is too different

[lofty tartan]

Can agree

[rustic mountain]

[lofty tartan]

I can only wonder what we'll do for the rest of S/V's competitive lifespan after this

[rustic mountain]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2345213399-3ues27apvnpd5d5moopsr46ijkhmh1cpw
well that was easy

[rustic mountain]

funny u mentioned that i was jus thinkin bout that like 5 min ago ahaha, i think for me layout would be
may-sept is dres, sept-jan would be ag format or some other b.s one maybe a recycled old one and then jan/feb we get champions

[lofty tartan]

Hm

[rustic mountain]

seeing as gen 10 wont be until like end of 2026

i cant see a whole entire year more on sv necessarily

[lofty tartan]

Yeah that's what I'm thinking - like a year left

[chrome knot]

praying we recycle content instead of ag

[lofty tartan]

So seeing how they occupy that year will be interesting

[rustic mountain]

prolly will cuz of irl tours

[chrome knot]

laic and the format is 6 legendaries

[rustic mountain]

ag for an official circuit is pretty lame tbh so i doubt theyd do it if thats the case

[rustic mountain]

ngl it was fun for swsh on just a ladder basis

using mythicals like victini and marshadow

[bold geode]

My precious

[foggy lodge]

WHAAAT

You have to do an unboxing

[left bobcat]

WHAAAAAAT

Why would you want to unbox it YOU’LL RUIN THE BOX

[astral kelp]

I just saw this regieleki ice rider kyogre team

Seems super cool

[rustic mountain]

80% achieved

[dense latch]

huge congrats

[rustic mountain]

ty

i was like a game away b4 and lost 1 and then had to win like 5-6 straight to claw back

it went down 2% for 1 loss lmao

[dense latch]

what’s your W/L?

[rustic mountain]

lemme check

x-2 i forgot how many wins

[dense latch]

damn that’s an impressive run

[rustic mountain]

finally eclipsed 80% ahah

[dense latch]

cant remember when i took this screenshot but i think this is around my best this reg

[rustic mountain]

nice

[dense latch]

25-6 i think

so i just need to cut a few losses when they count lol

[rustic mountain]

p much yea haha

75 is still great

[dense latch]

ty

[rustic mountain]

i def lucked out it being early format but still 80% is 80%

[dense latch]

it’s been a fun reg so far

[rustic mountain]

i gta branch out but ive been enjoying csr/zama

[dense latch]

ive been on cir mirai since the reg came out but yea i wanna try new stuff too

mirai lunala sounds fun

[rustic mountain]

those are the 3 best cores imo

or duos rather

[dense latch]

https://pokepast.es/41c376f39bf473b5 this is the last team i built and the one im trying rn

i’ve been on that farig hands miraice core for a while and i’m looking for some strong last 2 mons

valiant has been rly nice but i haven’t been bringing volc all that much

[rustic mountain]

hearthflame and whims

[foggy lodge]

I only want to be able to build teams that are no "x restricted reg G team but with 2nd restricted over a mon" on this format

Building Miraidon teams that are not arubega is hard

[dense latch]

[rustic mountain]

[rustic mountain]

i think most teams will have some resemblance but u never know more combos means more means for flexibility in some regard

especially too like things have to settle into what ppl think is initially strong before the inevitable meta adaptation and subsequent progression will take place

[dense latch]

im excited to see how the meta evolves in reg i

[rustic mountain]

yea

[dense latch]

https://youtu.be/_Vatx1cyxZY?si=HW-ckfYrKgXD3Uv9 this one?

[astral kelp]

Ye that

[astral kelp]

Holy shit

[astral kelp]

Looks awesome I love leki

[astral kelp]

Is that torkoal kyogre

Lmao

[cyan smelt]

I never trust annihilape, it can be either coaching or final gambit

[rustic mountain]

ape is a bo1 merchant

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2345250363-3lf7tc86vui39pxroykql7o9wwarss5pw

the struggling target mvp miraidon

[rustic mountain]

[foggy lodge]

Bo1 + 50/50 mon = suffering

[solid frigate]

i just assume them as final Gambit Ape

when i see Hard TR

[foggy lodge]

Its what makes most sense

[rustic mountain]

until they arent and u get cooked

[shadow wind]

Bulk up ape

[astral kelp]

i dont get why use anihilape over something like iron valient

or even just put coaching on zama

[shadow wind]

Final gambit is a delete button

[astral kelp]

i mean if youre not going scarf final gambit

[astral kelp]

right

Annihilape Final Gambit vs. 244 HP Calyrex-Ice Rider: 217 (105.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO oh wow its actually kinda close

[shadow wind]

Ok well lets do some math

Annihilape has base 110 hp

Calyrex ice has base 100 hp

Yeah you get the point

[astral kelp]

yeah lol i didnt realize it ignored defense stats

with scarf it outspeeds most of the format too thats quite nice

feels kinda shit to run since he kinda doesnt do anything else if you go this route

[shadow wind]

Doesn't need to do anything else

Deleting a restricted is just enough

[astral kelp]

yeah you right

reminds me of ditto

[dense latch]

it’s so weird to see no rolls in a calc lol

[astral kelp]

it looks so wrong right

[foggy lodge]

Bulky set up mon

Scarf annihilape lowkey goes crazy for this format

Pins all restricteds with either final gambit or shadow claw

And has coaching for physical restricteds

[astral kelp]

do people go coaching with scarf?

[foggy lodge]

Yes

[astral kelp]

interesting

i kinda wanna try it now

maybe calyrex-i?

[foggy lodge]

Scarf Urshifu runs that move a lot with CIR and Zamazenta lol

[astral kelp]

omg urshifu learns coaching ofc it does

[foggy lodge]

Worlds runner up used booster energy coaching valiant

[astral kelp]

oh ye i saw that

valient is such a cool mon

[foggy lodge]

Just a mon that is faster than most of the other Pokemon so you get coaching and then big damage move

Crazy that iron valiant was a one team wonder

For being on technically the 2nd best team of the format the team didn't have any impact on the meta

[shadow wind]

Man I couldn't type fast enough 😔

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2345283751-dajeqfb596v184e5y20xpysc0sfp9bwpw?p2

conner look away 😭

[shadow wind]

Nah kill the others

[shadow wind]

Yeesh

-13 elo is not that deep

[plain drum]

It's still real to them, dammit

[chrome knot]

1155 —> 1142

[shadow wind]

I'm just goated

I'm trying Groudon Zacian again

Lowkey prio spam but it's chill

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/giraffe-hi-gif-14914997

[shadow wind]

Bolt originally wasn't there

I had Val on it instead

[spiral ridge]

I meant farigiraf lol

[shadow wind]

Ohhhhhhhh

Chien pao trust 🙏

Chien pao is probably my gen 9 goat

He's just insane

[astral kelp]

kinda shocking tbh

iron valient is underrated i think

so much utility

[solid frigate]

bro got 2nd in worlds i don't think its gonna be underrated

well rated i would say

[cyan smelt]

chien pao does so much damage and enables so much damage

[astral kelp]

by that i mean i think the playtrate should be higher

[solid frigate]

that still like higher than a lot of underrated picks

[astral kelp]

yeah honestly 3% isnt bad at all

i thought it was lower

[shadow wind]

I love him

No way I just ran into an Iron defense Zama

Just cooks my team

I think I'll just accept that I insta lose to ID Zama

[shadow wind]

Bro this guy I'm playing is such a character 😭

What is bro on about 😭

[astral kelp]

LLOOOOOL

bros earky

[shadow wind]

What is bro actually talking about

I had to click the missing moves to win

[plain drum]

If people talk this much at higher ELOs I don't wanna make it lmao

[shadow wind]

And I'm somehow the bad guy

[astral kelp]

yknow those fake videos of like "salty showdown players"

[shadow wind]

This feels like one of those

[astral kelp]

its crazy hahah

[shadow wind]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2345318032-l1vw0q2p8xp9tdvsd98ccdw8n1rtcxvpw

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2345319164-tni9n8l4thqi06yxl6e7tjmxmabi6l7pw

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2345320372-mosl49h2vcqh9rjxpypylsikabevnoupw

Here's the games for context he didn't say anything game 1

[shadow wind]

Nah very few people actually talk

[plain drum]

Legendary

[cyan smelt]

Report those people

He told you to die

[shadow wind]

Nah cause I ain't innocent in it

[plain drum]

This was real shit 😭

[shadow wind]

Looks bad if I was saying stuff and then report the guy

Obviously what he said was not cool at all

[astral kelp]

no point really tbh

[cyan smelt]

Why are showdown players so salty, people at the regional were not like this

[astral kelp]

not like anythings gonna happen if you report lmao

[shadow wind]

But I'm a big boy and don't care what others say to me

I just find interactions like that extremely funny

[cyan smelt]

Most of the time stuff does happen if you report actually, I've been locked too many times

So now I try not to say anything

[shadow wind]

Oh yeah for sure, showdown mods are actually really good at responding to reports

I just can't be bothered

I'm here to play the game

What someone says doesn't do anything to me

Also if anyone does watch that set, I locked the heck in after game 1

[cyan smelt]

Idk if I'm gonna get abuse I don't want to play the game personally

[shadow wind]

If it really got to me I would just turn off chats

But interactions online when they aren't necessary are always a good time

For me anyway

[astral kelp]

oh really

thats cool

usually in games nothing happens its depressing lmao

[shadow wind]

Yeah showdown is good for that

[astral kelp]

its crazy how its a free survice

[cyan smelt]

And they have a filter too

[astral kelp]

a pretty amazing team and a pretty amazing site

[shadow wind]

Yeah I sometimes forget how lucky we are for having it

[cyan smelt]

I'm not salty at the mods for locking me, they're generally fair

[shadow wind]

Do you get a message for the reason you were locked?

[astral kelp]

is this your toxic teenage years lmao

[cyan smelt]

Yeah I get messages

[plain drum]

I've had some helpful people in the lobby sometimes believe it or not

[shadow wind]

The lobbies are lowkey chill

[astral kelp]

yeah usually people are super chill

[shadow wind]

And the tours are fun when they happen

[astral kelp]

ive had some really cool people

[plain drum]

I've seen it when the servers are restarting though HAHA

[astral kelp]

usually they will have a hilarious team and we will just talk about it

[cyan smelt]

Yeah those servers restart super often

[shadow wind]

I don't know if I have ever talked in a lobby

[astral kelp]

oh yeah i forgot those exist

[shadow wind]

Especially not on any of my alts

Although people know Groudon Gaming more than they know me so I maybe I just talk on that account

[astral kelp]

i love your commitment to the groudee

[shadow wind]

He's just my goat what can I say

[plain drum]

https://tenor.com/view/my-goat-washed-my-goat-is-washed-washed-goat-your-goat-is-washed-mfw-my-goat-is-washed-gif-11435157539877774481

[astral kelp]

groudon jumpluff valiant gravity

i gotta try that

[shadow wind]

Ah heck nah

[shadow wind]

😔

It's true

But that just means I'll have to be better

[plain drum]

Oh damn nah I wasn't trying to say anything I just think the gif is funny

[astral kelp]

its real tho

[shadow wind]

Don't lie to me

[astral kelp]

yknow i was thinking about how much synergy sinistcha and terapagos has

[plain drum]

[shadow wind]

It's actually nuts

[astral kelp]

ghost type redirection on a ghost type being immune to the only thing terapagos is weak to

healing it to reuse its ability

[shadow wind]

Too bad Sinistcha is weak to a certain horse

Both horses actually

[astral kelp]

bothj

[cyan smelt]

And terapagos is weak to a certain doggo

[astral kelp]

hahaha yeah and the fluterer

[astral kelp]

thats where sinsistcha comes in

i tried it a bit, being imune to body press feels great

[cyan smelt]

Csr Zama destroys sinistcha terapagos

[astral kelp]

now this is true

sinistcha also gets fucked by chien pao so hard

[shadow wind]

A lot of stuff does to be fair

[astral kelp]

and incin

yeah a LOT

[cyan smelt]

And chi yu

And koraidon

[astral kelp]

what doesnt it get fucked by would be easier

[cyan smelt]

Rilla

[shadow wind]

Urshifu water

[astral kelp]

u turn chunks it

[astral kelp]

amazing mu into it

thats like half the reason why you run it

[shadow wind]

Me when tera ghost Gastrodon

[astral kelp]

i wonder if gastrodon is good in reg i

[cyan smelt]

Probably not

[astral kelp]

storm drain is one hell of an ability

[cyan smelt]

Next to surf kyogre or surf Palkia lmao

[astral kelp]

pff i love it

[rustic mountain]

doubt it

[astral kelp]

another thing i really enjoyed using was oranguru

specifically telepathy oranguru

sometimes he can just shit on everything

[rustic mountain]

oranguru can be solid in lower power formats

dont necessarily see much of a place for it atm

[astral kelp]

i could see cir oranguru existing

[rustic mountain]

was even more niche in reg g wen it was more probable for it, now its even less viable imo

[astral kelp]

yeah thats probably true

[rustic mountain]

who knows tho really

just to me from wat ive seen i think its kinda just out of favor

[astral kelp]

i think his main issue is how clunky he is

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 765: Oranguru

Types

Normal/Psychic

Abilities

Inner Focus, Telepathy, Symbiosis (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/60/80/90/110/60

Total

490

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

definitevly good in trick room and decently tanky tho

but thers also bvetter options i think

[rustic mountain]

its one of those that if ur in the right spot its awesome but even now like

wide guard is so much more prevelant

[astral kelp]

its a win more mon actually

[rustic mountain]

and its main thing is enabling strong spread move atks

[astral kelp]

it does learn taunt

but im pretty sure incin can almost one shot it

[rustic mountain]

then ur tring and taunting or taunting and tring if u even can and then its awkward and u may lose enough resources or just get out positioned it doesnt even matter

[astral kelp]

yeah exactly

[rustic mountain]

instead of tring and instructing

[forest arrow]

After my Day 0 crash out, I gotta say this feels good
https://pokepast.es/0909e08fb8f82cfc

[astral kelp]

this was my attempt at it a while ago

[rustic mountain]

we ran into each other on ladder the other week

[astral kelp]

didnt do too bad other than being super inconsistent\