competitive_discussion

[upbeat venture]

Lmao

[charred saddle]

idk how u derive collision course into ground 😭

its literally collision

[shadow wind]

Did you think Koraidon was a ground type?

[upbeat venture]

Calc is short for calculator chat they’re just using slang

[knotty geyser]

I don't own koridon

[upbeat venture]

LMAO

[knotty geyser]

Wana battle every player is closing app on my team before I can even play

[upbeat venture]

So we all agree d punch? Just to be sure

[charred saddle]

dont play singles but id prefer collision > dpunch

[shadow wind]

Try it out then if you’re missing KOs switch it

[upbeat venture]

This is my second ever trained Pokémon you scare me 💀

[knotty geyser]

From what you're putting down it sound like u have a team lol

I've only ever seen 3 koridons with d punch

[upbeat venture]

I’m just a Pokémon autistic lmao

[knotty geyser]

Every one runs cc for immediate damage and what's kori att stat?

[upbeat venture]

135

With 135 speed

Do you reckon drain punch astral?

[knotty geyser]

Unless kori base attack stat over 350 I just run cc

[shadow wind]

135 but with Orichalcum pulse it’s way higher

[upbeat venture]

Mine is 369 with 405 speed

[charred saddle]

+STAB

[knotty geyser]

Forgot stab is a thing

[charred saddle]

and STAB multiplier favors bigger numbers

[shadow wind]

STAB doesn’t come into the conversation because they’re both fighting

[charred saddle]

yes but it favors bigger number still

100 BP= 150
75 = 102.5

[upbeat venture]

If it makes drain punch super powerful it makes it a worthy contender though because of healing

[shadow wind]

Yeah that kinda goes for every single multiplier in the game

[knotty geyser]

I would treat kori like the restricted legendary it is and run high damage coverage moves and same type moves for stab

[charred saddle]

i mean yes, im saying it on the context of ur looking at the potential dmg of a mon

not calcing out a multiplier is just weird

[shadow wind]

Drain punch isn’t there for massive damage though

That isn’t its job

[knotty geyser]

Does kori live a super effective fairy/ice/dragon move?

[charred saddle]

yeah ik, i didnt say its bad 😭

or like anything, i only say i prefer collision > dpunch and not getting OHKO could be a very different game

[shadow wind]

Not fairy

[knotty geyser]

If yes sure get drain punch if no cc

[charred saddle]

fairy is 4x

[shadow wind]

And depends on the move

[knotty geyser]

O ITS 4X FAIRY yea cc

[charred saddle]

ur most likely going to tera fire as well to boost flare blitz/temperflare/flame charge

[shadow wind]

Icy wind? Yeah probably
Draco meteor? Nah

[upbeat venture]

I mean 75power + swords dance + stab + over 350 stat

Won’t that kill?

Also it has iron head

[shadow wind]

Yeah it goes both ways but I full understand what you mean

[charred saddle]

yeah if u could have SD up

[knotty geyser]

Kori doesn't need SD

[shadow wind]

Also this is for singles so I legit have no idea what I’m talking about

🤪🤪🤪

[upbeat venture]

What’s that?

[charred saddle]

not having SD = dont ever hope for a OHKO unless its a weak SE mon

[knotty geyser]

Swords dance

[upbeat venture]

I’m sorry if I’m clueless lads lol

I don’t see what’s wrong with a first turn swords dance if it’s decently bulky and fast and has good coverage

[charred saddle]

same

just like pointing out the things to consider

[upbeat venture]

I really appreciate the help btw thank you ♥️

[charred saddle]

i mean, in singles ur most likely going to swap in and swap out

[knotty geyser]

Flutter main that's why

[shadow wind]

Me personally I just run mono HBD

[charred saddle]

more switching = no impact of setting up

like u set up, then they swap in into somethhing that resist kraidon

lets say ceruledge

immune to fighting, flash fire

[shadow wind]

And iron head

[charred saddle]

iron head resist

[shadow wind]

I still don’t know the format for this so I’m even less help

[charred saddle]

i mean aside from the opposing mons as well, if ur going to pivot things around quite often. setting up will be less impactful

[upbeat venture]

I was thinking Tera steel is the thing

[shadow wind]

Singles is weird though

[charred saddle]

ye

[shadow wind]

Like setting up to kill one specific mon could be worth

[knotty geyser]

You want tera fire on don because of sun you set

If u go iron u feed fire types and become massively weak to them

[charred saddle]

should we tag shiro

shiro is the comp helpers for singles iirc

[upbeat venture]

I’m thinking
Swords dance
Draining punch
Iron head
Dragon claw

Tera steel

[upbeat venture]

But then I just don’t tera

[upbeat venture]

Also how does fire help if he has no fire moves

[charred saddle]

flare blitz

[knotty geyser]

Fire types still resist kdon

[charred saddle]

temper flare
flame charge

[upbeat venture]

I’m saying mine specifically

[knotty geyser]

So u don't benefit from SD

[upbeat venture]

Not dragon claw

[charred saddle]

i mean whats the reason u dont have it?

cuz like sun boost = STAB

iron head doesnt get any boost

sun boost like flame charge could even get kills on some mon

[knotty geyser]

Because kdon sets sun you're best tera is fire

[charred saddle]

especially going to fire tera means u get STAB + sun boost

idk how singles works, but in doubles u literally always want fire

[upbeat venture]

Super effective fairy and resisting psychic/ice

[knotty geyser]

And mon that doesn't resist sun flame charge fire blitz just dies

[charred saddle]

well yeah as i said, u dont really need SE if ur getting STAB + sun boost

thats the same as doing SE

[upbeat venture]

I’m so confused lol

[knotty geyser]

I say run kdon with you're best fire/fighting moves

Tera fire

[astral kelp]

i wonder what i can do with grip claw lmaoo

[upbeat venture]

Sun Tera fire flare blitz sounds pretty yummy icl

[knotty geyser]

Its broken

[upbeat venture]

So to get this right

Swords dance
Draining punch
Dragon claw
Flare blitz

Tera fire

Is that good? ♥️

Thank you for helping me btw guys I don’t know what I’m doing lol ♥️

[knotty geyser]

I still run cc over dp

[upbeat venture]

But wouldn’t it help balance out flare blitz damage?

[knotty geyser]

No cus one draw back with recovery moves If the mall you're using it into resist it, or it doesn't do enough damage, you don't really gain a lot of health back from the skill

And since kdon is the kind of pokemon that just comes in with an extreme amount of burst damage It just wants to kill things efficiently as possible

[upbeat venture]

I wouldn’t use it against a Pokémon that would resist it and not much resists fighting right? Nothing I wouldn’t hit with dragon claw if I need to

[knotty geyser]

Well if ur dead set on it sure it's you're pokemon

Good luck

[upbeat venture]

I’m not I just want to learn honestly

I’m not trying to be argumentative, I’m sorry if I came across as such

I just want to know why you know what I mean?

[knotty geyser]

I've been on the receiving end and I can't really recommend recovery moves that. Don't directly just heal you. Because in the description of all recovery moves, they only give back half as much HP as damage dealt, regardless of the damaged multiplier and stab. So most of the covery moves don't really give back enough health if your Pokémon's already losing You just wasted a slot for something that could potentially swing for more damage. My opinion

The only Pokémon that this doesn't really apply to is shadow rider.
Because fairy moves are busted

And if u so happen to tera kdon u lose fighting stab so dpunch just becomes a weaker damaging option

[upbeat venture]

If drain one shot would it heal a decent amount back?

[knotty geyser]

That depends on the pokemon you 1 shot with IF it does 1 shot

[upbeat venture]

Would one swords dance make it one shot?

[knotty geyser]

For anything that doesn't resist fighting i think so but again I don't have kdon

So I don't have anything really comparable to test

[astral kelp]

lets try some funny business

[upbeat venture]

Pokémon’s confusing lol

If I did cc would I keep swords dance?

[knotty geyser]

U can yes

If u get SD up i don't see and none ghost mon living that

Is cc 100 base power?

[upbeat venture]

Yeah

[knotty geyser]

Yea nothing lives that

[upbeat venture]

Does koraidon instantly set up sun when it comes out?

[knotty geyser]

Yep

[upbeat venture]

What’s sd?

[knotty geyser]

Swords dance

[upbeat venture]

Ooh I see

I thought you meant sunny day and got confused lol

This is an evil creature we’ve crafted

[knotty geyser]

SD in community means swords dance

We just say sun for anything involving weather

[astral kelp]

this is absolute garbage

[upbeat venture]

I think I’ll try Tera fire

Swords dance
Flare blitz
Cc
Dragon claw

Jolly nature

Is that good?

[knotty geyser]

Yea that's looks good

Now go build fluttermane and u have a strong duo

[upbeat venture]

I’m considering it because I think it’s really cool and then I found out it was busted lol

[mighty stump]

Is this for doubles?

[knotty geyser]

Also just putting this out there
Scarlet has better paradox mons then violet
Violet only has like 1 good 1 and that's iron bundle

[mighty stump]

Because Protect would be really necessary

[upbeat venture]

The other Pokémon I made was espathra with stored power, protect, calm mind, Tera blast fire with speed boost

[mighty stump]

Standard current Koraidon builds run LO or ClearAm with Flare Blitz/Flare Charge/Close Combat or Collision Course/Protect

[upbeat venture]

It’s singles

[mighty stump]

Sometimes you get the occassional Loaded Dice Scale Shot set but it’s subpar

[charred saddle]

singles apparently

this

[mighty stump]

ew

jk

[upbeat venture]

Thank you so much for the help though guys you’re awesome ♥️

I’ll make my cool koraidon now 😎

[mint void]

U could improve that by...idk...deleting weezing cause eternatus kinda does what it would do besides NeutralGas

[mint void]

Wild ass call with the recent success of crown and the existence of Iron Hands my one and only

[knotty geyser]

Forgot about hands and iron crown?

[cyan smelt]

give iron leaves a chance

[mint void]

Maybe look into SD+Flame charge with less speed investment and some bulk. Maybe even Bulk Up over SD.
Tbf Im not familiar with the singles meta so I cant really savely tell you what you want to outspeed in base/after a flame charge.

[knotty geyser]

Rilla exist as the superior grass type

[mint void]

I really like all the Iron Legends

They look neat imo and are a cool twist but deciding that they may all be psychic sucks

[cyan smelt]

iron leaves has horrible typing

[knotty geyser]

Am I the only one who thinks ogerpon is a fraudulent legendary?

[cyan smelt]

ogerpon is a great utility mon, it can be support or more offensive if you need it

[shadow wind]

Resists Urshifu rapid strike

🧠🧠

[cyan smelt]

also good against ogre

[knotty geyser]

But it dies to It still

[cyan smelt]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9vgc2025regi-2342364144 hey look conner someone else is using lunadon

[astral kelp]

yeah i ended up doing pretty much that lmaop

eternatus just isnt tanky enough tbh

and typing wise

[tiny karma]

Eternatus [Poison/Dragon]

Resists (0.25x)

Grass

Resists (0.5x)

Bug, Electric, Fighting, Fire, Poison, Water

Neutral damage

Dark, Fairy, Flying, Ghost, Normal, Rock, Steel, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Dragon, Ground, Ice, Psychic

Type Notes

Poison-types cannot be Poisoned.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

psychic weakness is rough

[cyan smelt]

i'm thinking more ground, dragon, ice lol

[astral kelp]

that too B)

[cyan smelt]

and ofc urshifu single strike and whimsicott negates any setup you can do

[astral kelp]

yup its pretty awful hahah

[cyan smelt]

and flutter often has taunt

[astral kelp]

or urshifu

[cyan smelt]

or incin

[astral kelp]

or literally like every team

[shadow wind]

Nah it actually has fairly decent stats

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 1010: Iron Leaves

Types

Grass/Psychic

Abilities

Quark Drive

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/130/88/70/108/104

Total

590

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

urshifu is fucking crazy man

[shadow wind]

I like how his damage is consistent

I don’t have to worry about crits

[astral kelp]

that typing is SO awfuil holy

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 1010: Iron Leaves

Types

Grass/Psychic

Abilities

Quark Drive

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/130/88/70/108/104

Total

590

Sableye version 4.28.1

Iron Leaves [Grass/Psychic]

Resists (0.5x)

Electric, Fighting, Grass, Ground, Psychic, Water

Neutral damage

Dragon, Fairy, Normal, Rock, Steel, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Dark, Fire, Flying, Ghost, Ice, Poison

Weak (4x)

Bug

Type Notes

Grass-types are immune to Powder-based Moves.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

jesus mc christ ahahah

[shadow wind]

https://tenor.com/view/exeggutor-nightmare-pokémon-pokemon-pokémon-stadium-gif-15988070903293670164

[astral kelp]

6 resistances is a lot too

252+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid Strike U-turn vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Iron Leaves: 200-236 (120.4 - 142.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

116+ Atk Rillaboom U-turn vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Iron Leaves: 176-208 (106 - 125.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO ya yikes

[mint void]

Anyone seen the Wilfey Video? I havent finished it but do we think that this was pre Toronto?

[astral kelp]

looks like it was reg H

like ages ago

[mint void]

So was Toronto

Where he brought an extremely similar team to this

[astral kelp]

rain + perish song

[mint void]

Incin for Scarftys shit

Dont remember the 6th

[astral kelp]

wait youre right hahah

its like the same team lmao

thats actually crazy

instead of amoongus he has fucking electrode tho

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 186: Politoed

Type

Water

Abilities

Water Absorb, Damp, Drizzle (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/75/75/90/100/70

Total

500

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

70 speed tho yikes

i thought iut was fast

[mint void]

TR mode for that

+he only opted for Scarfty and Electrode since Incin and Amoonguss would be too expensive

[dense latch]

yea i’m pretty sure that in an interview he mentioned the auction was part of the reason he decided to go to toronto

and use perish trap

• the gc he played with the team

[astral kelp]

he said he was planning electrode the entire time

pretty fire video

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2342441726
man csr is just broken

cant belive moon lived barrasge plus cudgel

oh man its crazy how ursa blood is JUST fast enough to not underspeed calyrex ice

[astral kelp]

this ladys luck is fucking crazy

how did yuki miss like 5 thunder waves against her

then lose to a her hitting paralysis and it being prockjed on the perfect turn

[charred saddle]

15-0

1 loss from disconnected

[astral kelp]

dang nice

what tteam?

[charred saddle]

MDB

[astral kelp]

[astral kelp]

draft auction league
look inside
||rillaboom + incin won||

spoiler to wolfe vid

it was a cool team i gotta say tho

swamp is such a cool strategy

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2342502344-oelnox1sgxlj5ja2i25py1cncc4djrbpw

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2342507376

geezing who

when you have an Urshifu

[next stump]

NAIC registration dates

[nocturne holly]

What’re u guys using

[solid frigate]

Reg I?

[left bobcat]

Reg

Regular show

[lost sun]

regular show

[alpine charm]

I don't know what else to do, I need someone help me to get a lot of BP so I can battle elite four.

My code is VCDD8M

[dense latch]

#1187213102647873567

[full rune]

What held item should I use for Clefairy

[solid frigate]

eviolite

[full rune]

Oh I'm using focus band rn

[solid frigate]

Eviolite is the only good item for clef

[full rune]

What about Ninetails

[solid frigate]

which one-

[full rune]

Normal

[solid frigate]

why use that tho

just curious

[full rune]

Because it has hypnosis and I like Ninetails

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 38: Ninetales-Alola

Types

Ice/Fairy

Abilities

Snow Cloak, Snow Warning (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

73/67/75/81/100/109

Total

505

Base Species

Ninetales

Sableye version 4.28.1

Ninetales-Alola's moveset:

Physical Moves

Aqua Tail, Avalanche, Body Slam, Covet, Dig, Double-Edge, Facade, Feint Attack, Flail, Foul Play, Frustration, Giga Impact, Headbutt, Ice Shard, Icicle Spear, Iron Tail, Payback, Play Rough, Return, Secret Power, Tackle, Tail Slap, Take Down, Triple Axel, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Aurora Beam, Blizzard, Chilling Water, Dark Pulse, Dazzling Gleam, Disarming Voice, Draining Kiss, Dream Eater, Extrasensory, Freeze-Dry, Frost Breath, Hex, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Moonblast, Powder Snow, Psyshock, Round, Sheer Cold, Snore, Solar Beam, Stored Power, Swift, Tera Blast, Weather Ball

Status Moves

Agility, Attract, Aurora Veil, Baby-Doll Eyes, Baton Pass, Calm Mind, Captivate, Celebrate, Charm, Confide, Confuse Ray, Disable, Double Team, Encore, Endure, Fake Tears, Grudge, Hail, Heal Bell, Helping Hand, Howl, Hypnosis, Imprison, Laser Focus, Mist, Misty Terrain, Nasty Plot, Pain Split, Power Swap, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Reflect, Rest, Roar, Role Play, Safeguard, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Spite, Substitute, Swagger, Tail Whip, Toxic, Wonder Room

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Ninetales-Alola.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[solid frigate]

i mean alolan Ninetails is way better imo

[full rune]

I don't have alolan Ninetails

[solid frigate]

so you aren't using them for comp or-

[full rune]

I actually don't have an alolan Ninetails

[solid frigate]

ik but liike

are you using regular ninetales for comp?

[full rune]

Yeah I like pairing my Ninetails with Clefairy

[solid frigate]

Doubles or singles

[full rune]

Doubles

[solid frigate]

good luck-

Regular Ninetales would suffer even more against the current format

[full rune]

I mean I can go through my other pokemon after I find delibird presents

[solid frigate]

what other pokemon you think of?

[full rune]

Breloom is a very odd choice but it has poison heal as an ability and I have its moveset as poison jab, substitute, swords dance and facade

[solid frigate]

Calyrex Ice Rider food

https://tenor.com/view/glastrier-gif-21054576

[dense latch]

are you playing ranked doubles or just casual battles? because those pokemon won't hold up with the current rules or those to come next month

[full rune]

Calyrex has wiped my whole team one too many times

[solid frigate]

i mean

[full rune]

Ranked, mostly because casual is just full of a bunch of legendaries from what I've experienced

[solid frigate]

no shocker cuz did you consider any restricted legendary?

[full rune]

No

[dense latch]

you should start with that

your restricted legendary is what you should build a team around in this regulation

[solid frigate]

or two if you play reg I

[full rune]

All of my legendaries that aren't caught in Violet is in SP and I remember I have the regi quartet, latios and latias, giritina origin form, and palkia

I also have Rayquaza and Kyogre that was gifted to me by a friend

[dense latch]

kyogre and miraidon (which i assume you have bc of violet) are both great restricteds

miraidon is better though if you do have it

[solid frigate]

my beloved duo in reg I

[craggy dagger]

how does stellar tera interact with weather changes and weather ball

[dense latch]

reg i has been pretty fun so far

[full rune]

The only thing stopping me from using my beloved regigas is its ability :(

[dense latch]

i'm glad im taking it a bit slow this reg

[solid frigate]

Terapagos?

[craggy dagger]

maybe

[solid frigate]

oh wait i get what you mean

[craggy dagger]

does each weather get one boost or is it just one boost overall

[solid frigate]

each type gets one boost

so hypothetically speaking

weather ball gets 5 Boosts

[full rune]

I also have uxie

[solid frigate]

if all weather exsts

[solid frigate]

thats trash

[craggy dagger]

but the type in the menu is just normal type?

i thought it would only boost once

cuz stellar = one time boost to move

[solid frigate]

i think Wolfe actually mentioned that before when he plays Kingdra

[spiral ridge]

weather ball when in rain is STAB for peli isnt it

[dense latch]

yea

[solid frigate]

basically

[spiral ridge]

so i assume it does read as different type so yeah it should be stellar boosted when weather changes?

[craggy dagger]

oh okay

[solid frigate]

Rain
Sun
Sandstorm
Snow
Normal

All gets a boost in stellar Tera

[spiral ridge]

yeah

[solid frigate]

so basically you have 6 Boost if you play Kingdra

[spiral ridge]

if you have 4 weathers 😭

[full rune]

Also is there a secondary support pokemon you would recommend? Because my second support is Skarmaroy

[solid frigate]

which is impossible

[dense latch]

chat does this mean im the luckiest person on pokemon showdown

[spiral ridge]

torn

[solid frigate]

unless your name is just torn with all weathers

[craggy dagger]

[solid frigate]

yeah

[spiral ridge]

god dayum nice

[solid frigate]

what you probably gonna do is try to think the team outside of what you have currently

cuz you can trade with people on the Pokemon you have

[dense latch]

skarmory's pretty good in singles afaik but it's pretty bad in doubles

[solid frigate]

and Skarmory is singles stall machine

Double is kinda suckass

LOOKING AT YOU AMARYS

[dense latch]

those walls that work in singles like skarm and toxapex don't work as well because there's two pokemon on the field at once

[solid frigate]

and yeah

both gets nuked by Miraidon anyway

[dense latch]

to be fair most pokemon do

[solid frigate]

@full rune so what is your gameplan tho

[full rune]

My game plan mostly consist of sending out Clefairy and a DPS, whether it be Kyogre or Flutter mane or something and just keeping my dps alive while lowering the other teams attack, as for a game plan on how to improve? Just working on my strategy and pokemon

If you meant something different idk

[solid frigate]

Sounds like CSR

like CSR material

[full rune]

Whats CSR, I'm very new to actually playing competitive Pokemon

[solid frigate]

Shadow Rider Caly

Shadow Honse

[full rune]

That's actually the honse I keep on getting wiped by

[solid frigate]

lemme bring you the team for now

cuz you want Clefairy+Sweeper

[full rune]

Uh huh

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/1fe9a4a9ea7a21f0

here,should be a basic+Easy team to use

[full rune]

I only have access to SP and Violet

I do not know where to get the other pokemon

Except for the Ushifiru, I'm planning on buying Sword or Shield this summer

[solid frigate]

trading

[solid frigate]

get the DLC.

[full rune]

Ik

[solid frigate]

Calyrex is also in the DLC

well not SV one

SWSH DLC Crown tundra

[full rune]

Alr

What about tornadis

Do I just pray that somebody accepts what little I have to offer or?

[solid frigate]

this one you have to ask for trade,idk if they are in dynamax adventures

and tbf in my experience they are quite friendly as long as you have a fair deal

[full rune]

Are there any alternatives to tornadis or

[dense latch]

whimsicott maybe

if you cant get torn

[full rune]

I'm working on evolving my cottonee rn so

What item should I give it

[solid frigate]

Covert Cloak or Focus Sash

[full rune]

Ok

What about moveset, I have tailwind and poison spores but I'm curious if it can learn sleep spores

[chrome knot]

@rustic mountain may i get ur opinion on team i wanna run this weekend for vr tour

[dense latch]

tailwind moonblast encore is the three you definitely want

then you can run a few different moves as your 4th

typically it's light screen, taunt or protect

in that order based on usage

[solid frigate]

personally i just run Tailwind Moonblast Encore Protect

to keep my uptime inside TW better

[full rune]

ok I'm going to hyper train and try it out

Update it went really well

Nobody died

[atomic mural]

why did they say this

minecraft movie reference

[solid frigate]

bruh-

[left bobcat]

DARKNESS

[solid frigate]

DROWN IN DARKNESS

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-x-shadow-generations-sonic-the-hedgehog-shadow-the-hedgehog-sonic-mephiles-gif-9533144750352371415

[left bobcat]

FAIRY TYPE

[atomic mural]

FIGHTING TYPE

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/throwing-tomatoes-spongebob-meme-gif-16484771711608947508

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9doublesubers-2342850165

Not VGC but this is hilarious

[atomic mural]

your opponent is based

[solid frigate]

yeah but i beat my fav restricted pair with a team i am curious on building

[bold geode]

Ooooo whatchu got girl

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/stickbugged_lol/status/1911720732146495544

dyl (@stickbugged_lol) on X

im pretty disappointed, the team deserved so much more but its pilot just sucks :(

still, points with wigglytuff lmfao

X · Apr 14, 2025, 9:58 AM

[chrome knot]

experimental csr zam stuff lol

[bold geode]

Oh? New core idea?

[chrome knot]

kijnda

[bold geode]

May I perhaps take a look see?

Me would like to see

[worthy mango]

dollar

i just wanna ask why u ran iron head > bbash on ur zama team xD

[solid frigate]

Iron Head turns into Behemoth bash

when Zamazenta turns into Crowned State

[worthy mango]

oh

mb didnt know that XD

[solid frigate]

Same thing with Zacian's Behemoth blade

[worthy mango]

ahhh

alr alr thx lol

[bold geode]

What he said lol

[solid frigate]

somehow i have no idea on building any team now in reg I

[left bobcat]

Some of my combinations aren’t exactly working the way I thought it would

[polar marten]

Best walking wake moveset?

My walking wake has 252 in speed and spatk and 4 in spedef btw

[left bobcat]

Hydro steam
Draco meteor
Weatherball/ flamethrower
Protect

[lost mortar]

yo anyone pokemon showdown reg i?

[left bobcat]

Tera fire/water/fairy/poison holding a life orb/mystic water

[solid frigate]

Specs Wake is goated

Hydro Steam
Flamethrower
Draco Meteor
Snarl

4 HP 4 Def 244 SpA 4 SpD 252 Speed

Timid Nature

Tera Water

make sure to be Booster Speed on Koraidon/Groudon teams to make it effectively Faster that some restricteds

[polar marten]

What abt non competitive?

[lofty tartan]

What is "best" when talking about casual?

In the competitive discussion channel no less 👀

[foggy lodge]

also for a pokemon not obtainable until post game

[polar marten]

I just got one from trading

[lofty tartan]

Wake is tera raid events anyway

[polar marten]

Also mika, don’t scam people

[lofty tartan]

Like 5* so doesn't even need a 6-star unlock

[left bobcat]

…

[lofty tartan]

Eh. Too late. 🤷

[left bobcat]

It ain’t likely

[lofty tartan]

I'm like Team Rocket, but I actually succeed

[polar marten]

Did u know Jessie and James pose to make the letter R

[next stump]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2342961030-tuqjtmuev0jq1mvvcb3ula3872sqqx8pw

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2342964592-xjcp32jlaq5eihgnn2qi4inbo8idl2cpw

CLUTCHED NPAA (draft league) FINALS LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[mighty stump]

Lmao gratz dude

My performance was terribad

[next stump]

I had such a terrible read on what he was going to bring to the set

my teammates swore up and down it was gonna be zama/ting lu/dozo

[dense latch]

congrats!!

[solid frigate]

noice

[chrome knot]

gang what is the secret to reg i

i legit have no fucking clue how to play it all the balance stuff feels awful

[torn parrot]

I’m tearing up the pocket ladder 🦖

Too addicted

[solid frigate]

either HO or Hard TR

like thats my current thought about it

[astral kelp]

man how good would the sword of justice but paradox be if they didnt have the psychic type

other than iron crown ig

[chrome knot]

both are so shit to pilot :/

bruh milwaukee & naic are gonna be so fucking boring i wish i went to euic while it was still reg g

[astral kelp]

whats HO?

[solid frigate]

Crown won the last regional of Reg G lmao

[astral kelp]

yeah other than iron crown lol

mighty cleave actually feels like an insane ability sometimes

[solid frigate]

then i guess Tailroom? but that feels very shitty for me at least

[dense latch]

hyper offense

[chrome knot]

i have no idea but my bpd keeps spiking and making me extremely upset and im stressing bc im running out of time

and i dont have a team to work off of

[astral kelp]

oh ic ty

[gentle crag]

k4x1 has given 1 Gen Rep to eriksp

[solid frigate]

i kinda did have a team but like rn there is no de facto best playstyle rn-

But my gut tells me to do Hyper Offense

[astral kelp]

man i had a great idea for a terapagos team in my dream but now its gone

i know that terapagos and grimmsnarl were there

but i dont remember anything else lmao

oh wow i didnt realieze how well i was going with my weezing team

[polar marten]

What’s the best basic mon in competitive?

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/incineroar-smash-anime-fight-smack-down-gif-16720688

[polar marten]

I said basic

As in only one evo and no special abilities etc

[atomic mural]

whenever i see snake now i have Invisible by duran duran playing in my ear

[solid frigate]

thats virtually impossible

The defininition of basic is very different from my eyes

Anything that is not Legendary/Mythical/Ultra Beast/Paradox are consider basic Pokemon

[polar marten]

I mean a mon like squakabilly

Or klawf

[astral kelp]

its definitevly not this

but i think its close

[solid frigate]

both Special Abilities and base form

Dude Incin and Squakabilly both have Intimidate

And Klawf's Ability is a Signature ability

[polar marten]

Oh

[solid frigate]

the definition is flawed from the start

[polar marten]

Lemme rephrase: one evo and not smth like legendary or starter u get the point

[solid frigate]

and the best Comp pokemon even with anything is Incineroar-

[polar marten]

Wolfglick alt?

[solid frigate]

no its literally widely agreed on

[polar marten]

lol

[solid frigate]

look at 2018-2019 Usage Ratings

[polar marten]

I know

It’s just a competitive meme at this point

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/hsr-honkai-honkai-star-rail-star-rail-herta-gif-5466245339195567873

[foggy lodge]

Probably something like Dondozo or Ditto for this format

[polar marten]

Oh forgotten abt that

Also is maishold good?

[foggy lodge]

Ehhh

Could have a niche

[astral kelp]

I LOVE SQUAKBILLY

[vestal umbra]

hello!! Im looking for someone to help me teambuild for an upcoming tournament my friend is hosting. I've got some pokemon down, i haven't gotten much of the movesets. No legendaries allowed DM me

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2343022779-gqxpm8evk2bmi799etvuqcxfmrso45tpw

yeah idk this team feels kinda ass lmao

idfk what op was up tyo

[jade dust]

@solid frigate hey how did your pulls went this patch? Did you pull for Castorice?

[solid frigate]

yeah i got her

[jade dust]

Nice

I got Yanquin

[solid frigate]

but lost to E3 Clara and Bailu Sig

[solid frigate]

and now Hyacine is next

[solid frigate]

bro say nuh uh on the 10 pull

[jade dust]

Mhm

[jade dust]

Oof

At least Bailu’s signature is like her best “f2p” lc

Yanquin did it again

Those jumpscares

[solid frigate]

currently like even with Bailu Sig i can still do 1 Mil damage lmao

Ruan Mei+RMC moment

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2343026280
the idea of sinistcha is that its immune to fighting moves which turtle is weak to
its feedling kinda nice actually

[jade dust]

Yeah I use Ruan Mei as well

I don’t have Tribbie

I will pull her on rerun tho

[solid frigate]

same

after Hyacine i'm skipping

[jade dust]

Thank god for the free Ruan Mei. I never had the chance to get her

My Firefly was benched

[solid frigate]

E2 or just E0

[jade dust]

E0…

My Firefly is cope yes

[solid frigate]

relatable

tbf Dolphin vs Lightspender moment

[jade dust]

Yeah I’m a dolphin

[solid frigate]

i'm just light spender

I think i only spend on Robin Pulls+2 Express Passes

[jade dust]

I’m not crazy or rich enough to go full whale

[jade dust]

Nice

That crit rate is a bit overcapped tho

[craggy dagger]

[solid frigate]

its alright but you haven't seen My Casto's CR lmao

its even more Overcapped than Therta

[jade dust]

lol

Let me guess

110+

[solid frigate]

with quantum orb is even worse lmao

[jade dust]

Yeah you want HP orb

The orb is shit

But the body is damn good

[solid frigate]

i would go for HP more

but like

nvm you have Sunday anyway

Casto is still fine with Sunday

Just not as good as RMC

[jade dust]

Yeah I have hyperspeed Sunday

Tho RMC is better cuz Mem is an extra HP pool

And Sundays ult buffs don’t apply to dragon unless it’s already in the field

And the energy is useless on Cas

[solid frigate]

yeah its still ok alternative but just go with RMC Tribbie or RMC Ruan Mei

[charred saddle]

[jade dust]

Yeah this is my current team

171 spd Gallagher

Need that to outspeed the dragon

[solid frigate]

sustainless Therta make sense

[jade dust]

Mhm, the AS heals you when you break the boss so

But gotta say you need good rng

That bug deals a lot of damage

[craggy dagger]

LEOOOO

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2343038141-2r77h9gp0bg91r26pldrcfibl04nx2rpw
grimsnarl actually making leftover rapagos playable

i woudlve so lost if that porygon z was a hearthflame or something i think

[charred saddle]

[craggy dagger]

[astral kelp]

omg this looks epic

i love this so much'

so much cooler looking than oringinal

[shadow wind]

I would probably have it like that if all models had it

I hate the pngs

[astral kelp]

yeah

like this screne looks awesome

[shadow wind]

Yeah it does

[astral kelp]

butt then sinistcha switches in

and it just looks like ass lmao

or just look at oger

[shadow wind]

😭

Dang this boy fat

Granted no e terrain

🙏

This team is actually working exactly how I imagined it

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2343049666

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2343051546

Still feels a bit too Groudon heavy

[fringe fossil]

Somehow hit 1200 (new high) on my regirock team and I feel like I have a semi consistent strat going for me that somehow works

[shadow wind]

Bo1 or Bo3?

[charred saddle]

u make fat turtle?

[shadow wind]

Like barely

Still max spatk

[charred saddle]

icic

[fringe fossil]

Bo1

[shadow wind]

I'm testing to see if I like a meteor beam or specs set more

Meteor beam is feeling honestly pretty good

Getting stuck into a spread move when wide guard is so common feels pretty bad

Do my eyes deceive me?

Guys it Rayquaza

[mighty stump]

Who

[shadow wind]

Rayquazer

Lizardon prime

Also Tofu, what do you think is better right now? Specs Terapagos or Meteor Beam Terapagos

[shadow wind]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2343066096-xeg2afua06nxq0nwnp2xmikqjhilx28pw

A simple skill difference

[charred saddle]

it feels good until it decided to miss 2 mbeam in 4 games for me and i drop that shit

but yeah

[shadow wind]

Groudon on the same team made me make some decisions

Gravity Farig 🤪

This team might be buns

[mystic steppe]

Am I totally out of line for thinking that in it's current state, Pokémon is an absolute dogs#*% game from a competitive standpoint? There are over 1000 options with like, far less than 10% of those being currently usable competitively in ranked. That is objectively a weird and seemingly not good approach just from a game design perspective. Is Reg H being goated a got take? I had sooo much more fun. I'm dreading reg I.

[shadow wind]

Nah that's pretty much spot on

But there's some merit to it

Seeing a less used mon do well is an unmatched feeling

But I do agree, the balance is just not there

[mystic steppe]

I mean that's true, but you have to really carry them in order to do that.

[shadow wind]

Power creep in recent generations is becoming too much

[shadow wind]

Yeah it's an unreasonable task

But I do really love the concept of pokemon, I just wish it was executed better

[charred saddle]

reg E > [insert ur own]

[mystic steppe]

I guess I'm just bringing it up because I'm curious if anyone thinks there's a solution on the horizon. If anything, I am really hoping Champions is a legitimate competitive scene that let's you define your own ruleset/regulation.

[charred saddle]

then thats just smogon?

or something something close to that

[shadow wind]

I think there's a very fine line on what people will like

Because me personally I would hate if every pokemon was viable

[mystic steppe]

I do get that by the very nature of legendary and mythical pokemon existing balance is out the window for the franchise as a whole, but I think competitively the game is just so much more interesting when the OP pals are put in their own little corner to play. Like my ideal situation would be two leagues, one with no restricted pokemon at all, and one with ONLY restricted pokemon. Because I also think they become more balanced in a vacuum.

[mystic steppe]

Well totally, but I mean like for official ranked with in game usable rewards and stuff.

[charred saddle]

[mystic steppe]

Idk this was a random rant. 😅 It just feels bad that in a game with so many options you're punished for trying to explore them.

[charred saddle]

i hate you

[shadow wind]

Which is why the win with lesser mons is so awesome !!

Also this avatar is so dope

[mystic steppe]

Tatsu dondo with ghost calyrex is not really pushing any envelopes lol

[charred saddle]

what

[shadow wind]

Wish I had any cool avatars 😔

But besides that for some reason my Groudon Terapagos team has actually been putting in the work

So that's cool

[balmy glen]

Everyone in NPA has this

[shadow wind]

NPA?

Neva mind, looked it up

[craggy dagger]

[astral kelp]

chien pao rayquaza sounds really fun

too bad rayquaza is so fucking ass lmao

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 384: Rayquaza

Types

Dragon/Flying

Abilities

Air Lock

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

105/150/90/150/90/95

Total

680

Other Formes

Rayquaza-Mega

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

thats like legit not restricted stats pretty much

[charred saddle]

went 16-0 just to lose to a dozo CSR geezing

[craggy dagger]

csr dozo geezing sucks

[charred saddle]

i mean tbf i dont use restricted since im helping cello get the master ribbon for cellos giratina

[shadow wind]

I think I just used all my luck up for the next 7 years

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2343083922-exvlhlup2d34akrtd51w0ja39r0ogufpw

[charred saddle]

look at this

teeny shiny giratina

[shadow wind]

Sheesh

All the BDSP ribbons too, epic

[charred saddle]

yeah cello ribbon hunted everything possible

true giratina fan

[shadow wind]

I did that with my Groudon

[charred saddle]

on 2 giratina as well

[shadow wind]

But I need to catch another one 😔

[craggy dagger]

yaaaayyy

[shadow wind]

I shiny hunted for it on an alt and made the mistake of nicknaming it

And now that alt is gonezo so no renaming it

[chrome knot]

need a team ):

[charred saddle]

painge

[lofty tartan]

Defining your own ruleset is the antithesis of a competitive league where people actually attend in huge numbers.

[lofty tartan]

No longer a ZacOgre believer?

[chrome knot]

no and ive been all over earth playing teams and i got literally nothing but a bunch of bpd induced cries

[lofty tartan]

I think you should just start swinging with something and don't look back.

I did this before Toronto too

[chrome knot]

i just can’t find a team i can pilot well

[lofty tartan]

You may be being a little too critical of yourself there too. You're a good pilot you just need a team you like

[chrome knot]

i’ve been trying

nothing has rly felt good to play

and im in a bit of a panic bc i have a week at most

[lofty tartan]

Go overboard and play Kyurem-White

[chrome knot]

i will nawt be doing that

[shadow wind]

I knew this name would be a hit

Well that sure is a lot of damage

[lofty tartan]

I know. Half joke, half pet project for me. Zama/CSR is fine but you have to dance around the mirror and a lot of people are gonna be on it because it's popular and rock solid.

Take something CSR/Zama doesn't like to play around

[shadow wind]

CSR Koraidon is good into it

[astral kelp]

whats a good bring into tailroom?

you got like hands, amoongus

maybe chien pao?

[shadow wind]

Like to counter it or build it?

[astral kelp]

peak

[astral kelp]

counter it

i think more like
can function inside both trick room and enemy tailwind

something versetile

ursaluna blood moon has been feeling pretty good but it kinda doesnt outspeed anyone in trick room and doesnt outspeed anything out of trick room lol

and weak to ice is really bad here

i would use ursaluna but yk

plus i dont think its bulky enough

[foggy lodge]

Dondozo Tatsugiri jijiji

I've been playing Miraidon AV + specs CSR + Dozogiri and it goes crazy against that

[astral kelp]

how is koraidon good into it btw?

oh ig se against zamazenta even if it teras actually

but doesnt it just get destroyed by caly?

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/ddee_ssbu/status/1911471439154196843

SS | DDee! (@ddee_ssbu) on X

Finished top 16 (10–3) at Atlanta!

Lost to 3 difficult matchups but played some of the best vgc I’ve ever played this weekend so happy 😭

Might enter stuff for reg I

X · Apr 13, 2025, 5:27 PM

A smash ultimate player got top 16 at Atlanta lol

And with leftover calm mind raging bolt

[astral kelp]

he is bulky enough to do that

thats cool

sounds fun ahha

[chrome knot]

this is actually optimal

you cook pagos and the csr mirror lmao

[foggy lodge]

Yeah its a good set

I remember recently talk about leftovers CM Raging Bolt and people didn't believe

[astral kelp]

omg i actually never considered rb into csr

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2343216424-eeemxrnoiy1o6huba3t76ggy98c3m4apw
i love how weezing shuts down prankster its so nice

opp never expects weezing to out taunt tornados haha

this is actually the best score ive ever gotten

omg lugia looks fuckign AWESOME

bro now that i know im winstreaking im so nervoud help

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-look-alex-engvid-stop-looking-at-this-you-cant-look-at-this-gif-25961007

[left bobcat]

That’s a weird looking roaring moon

[chrome knot]

ive pivoted into csr korai with a few friends

i personally just feel so lost in this format

[lofty tartan]

Doesn't sound bad at all

[mighty stump]

do you wanna make something

[lofty tartan]

I don't even have anything to play for Reg I yet but I'm not competing, either. Just getting back into the swing of comp

[chrome knot]

i dont know im struggling sm

[chrome knot]

no its quite bad'

everything in this reg feels like turbo shit

[chrome knot]

i have a regional and an ic for this reg and i really wish i didnt :/

[charred saddle]

idk i still dont believe it

only having dpulse as the attack move is kinda hard
idk prob just me

[chrome knot]

u have tclap asw

[charred saddle]

i mean as in the targeting move

i mean clefairy is not around as much

but clef just shuts down that bolt

i mean im prob just biased or like hating it too much

but i really dont like cm bolt in this reg

[chrome knot]

if clefairy is an issue i sure hope there isnt 5 other pokemon on this team cx

[foggy lodge]

Against clefairy CSR you probably pick CSR Incin Rilla Hearthflame

[fringe fossil]

Is rock slide worth the 80% hit chance if I dont have wide lens

[chrome knot]

yes

[fringe fossil]

Cool thx

changing up my team a bit after playing a bunch of games with it

mainly movesets

[chrome knot]

anyone wanna run set im bored at workkkkk

[solid frigate]

i'm down

[chrome knot]

send to femcel csr

[solid frigate]

wait-

[chrome knot]

sry in advance for bad games tho i literally have no idea what im doing this reg

[solid frigate]

i fought you before lol

[chrome knot]

yes i know what ur gonn say

i blanked on ursh item and just didnt bother switching to korai lmao

[solid frigate]

lol tru

usually the MU is like Neutral for me but i can't find the sixth

[chrome knot]

idk u just played so passive

after vswitching

while im settimg up a 2ko on last turns of tw to set csr for the rest

so by also playing slow with me im chill doing nothing while also taking no damage

[solid frigate]

i used to have Iron Crown Version which lets me play so offensively that i can clean games in 2-3 turns

but man Incin and Grimm feels deadweight+Wellspring kinda is my pain in the ass

[chrome knot]

scarf ursh is rly good into csr zam

only issue is wellspring

[solid frigate]

yeah which i would usually do but i just respected too much on wellspring

[chrome knot]

which is why it never rly had to show itself to ursh also showed up

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 566: Archen

Types

Rock/Flying

Abilities

Defeatist

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

55/112/45/74/45/70

Total

401

Sableye version 4.28.1

[spiral ridge]

mfer gives up hes so real

[shadow wind]

He just like me fr

[rustic mountain]

sure

[chrome knot]

there is no opinion needed team was ass i found out

[shadow wind]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2343620607-3n04v1qpxfy8xody3tltmgrkr1nn5qcpw

Generational game

[warped mason]

Why'd this team have to pop off at the end of reg g, such a cool looking team.

[solid frigate]

we have same team Mirror in San Antonio

Now we have same team Mirror in Alanta

[rustic mountain]

[rustic mountain]

still technically have 2 weeks left of the format

[chrome knot]

panicked bad rn

and teamless, might just play swms mirai lunala

[rustic mountain]

i wouldnt pressure urself too much, its such a new format. mirai/lunala is good. what happened to csr/zama?

[chrome knot]

bad ):

im just stressed bc i got a reg i tourney in denver, then milwaukee week after

[rustic mountain]

taken some days off from the format but csr/zama still felt strong wen i was playing

nd yea i feel that but the format technically hasnt even begun yet

theyll be more optimization/meta shifting now that players are gna be shifting their focus onto that. rn its a bit all over in a lot of respects

[astral kelp]

Brute bonnet whaaat

I thought brute bonnets whole thing was sucker punch

What tournament was this?

[warped mason]

Atlanta regionals

[astral kelp]

Awesome it's crazy than number 1 and 2 was this team

Omg all the top 8 teams were awesome what

[tiny karma]

Move: Seed Bomb

No additional effect.

Type

Grass

Category

Physical

Power

80

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Artillery

Does not affect Bulletproof Pokémon.

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[mystic steppe]

Dang you're so right. I just beat a Miraidon VGC team with water tera Feraligatr and no restricteds and it was both juicy and satisfying. 👌

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/DinomiteVGC/status/1912245357301641682

Oliver Gausden (@DinomiteVGC) on X

Welcome back Pult Sneasler balance

X · Apr 15, 2025, 8:43 PM

[left bobcat]

Eww sneasler

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2343742379

What am i looking at-

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2343743877

This is a bit Overkill-

[shadow wind]

Gotta love showdown

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2343745637

I'm just nuking stuff left and right-

while Xenoblade Battle music Blasting on my head

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2343747667-rokg420qo9t0xy48o72nv4fluvesk1vpw

[vestal umbra]

can any1 help me create a good team to win in a tournament with my friends? (Yes, I have to be the best in everything that's casual)

[mint void]

@vestal umbra what are your rules?

[vestal umbra]

no legendaries
and no aron strat

[mint void]

6v6? s8ngles? doubles? Team of 6 pick 4?

[vestal umbra]

2 person on 2

[mint void]

3v3

[mint void]

What?

[solid frigate]

i have a stroke seeing that

[vestal umbra]

oh i was adding to the rules sorry

it's 6 pokemon

[mint void]

How many mons do you as the individual have to pick from and how many will you actually battle with

[vestal umbra]

you can have 6 pokemon maximum on your team

indivisually

[mint void]

Is it singles or doubles?

Or multibattle

[vestal umbra]

multi

[mint void]

Do.u have set pairs?

[solid frigate]

chaos mode:

[mint void]

Or do you get paired up randomly?

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2343753485

[vestal umbra]

set pairs

[chrome knot]

i have to change alt name :c

[mint void]

Ok. Idk how many you can being to the battle later

[solid frigate]

why tho-

[mint void]

3 each?

[solid frigate]

you can bring 3

[vestal umbra]

no u can bring 6

[chrome knot]

i not on csr anymore,,,,

[solid frigate]

wha-

[vestal umbra]

12 on 12

basically

[solid frigate]

didn't click?

[chrome knot]

how can i be femcel csr with no csr

[mint void]

@vestal umbra holy shit

[vestal umbra]

LOL

[rustic mountain]

csr exists in ur heart

[mint void]

Uh ok thats a mad meta game

[vestal umbra]

ITS PRETTY BIG

[rustic mountain]

ur asking a comp chat how to build a team for a casual format

[solid frigate]

CSR Always haunts non CSR players

Unless they don't have Tera Water against Urshifu Rapid Strike

[rustic mountain]

csr also haunts csr players lmao

[mint void]

Probably just inculde some hard sweeping strats like Weak armor weakness policy armarouge next to Iron Bundle with Indeedee in the back

[solid frigate]

yeah lol

[mint void]

Psyspam basically

[mint void]

Paradox allowed?

[solid frigate]

also tree currently trying P2 on my MiraiOgre team

Seems solid to use+Can reverse TR

[solid frigate]

lmao

[vestal umbra]

yea i was thinking of a team like tinkaton, annihilape, froslass, slowking, meowscarada and flygon

[vestal umbra]

and no, it's not allowed

no legendaries, mythicals, or paradox

[rustic mountain]

p2s been weird for sv, was kinda dogshit in single restricted i doubt it gets better in double but ive been wrong on p2 before

[solid frigate]

i can agree on it

Eh i think it deserves Potential anyway

[rustic mountain]

maybe

[solid frigate]

i'm just throwing my Reg H set P2 into my team cuz why not

[rustic mountain]

also u mean u think it has potential

[marsh drum]

Thanks google

[solid frigate]

LMAO

[marsh drum]

This is actually real

[vestal umbra]

oh btw @mint void only starters allowed are Paldea starters for some reason

[marsh drum]

I just looked this up

[rustic mountain]

ai powered search engine sucks so no surprise

[vestal umbra]

:|

[marsh drum]

And then I actually look up what VGC stands for and it’s correct

[rustic mountain]

video game championships yes

[mint void]

Well thats prett good for psyspam

[vestal umbra]

true

[solid frigate]

bro is playing reg A

no DLC?

[vestal umbra]

no we have DLC

its just my friends are weird AF

[solid frigate]

A R C H A L U D O N

[vestal umbra]

ok wait BRB

[rustic mountain]

no this is ur only chance

[solid frigate]

me on my way to spread Archaludon propaganda

[mint void]

@vestal umbra can you have the same mons or 1 per pair

Id assume only 1 per pair right?

[marsh drum]

Yeah ik, I was looking up something related to gmax and that was the beginning of it lmao

[rustic mountain]

lmao

[solid frigate]

lol

VGC really brings out the worst of you

[marsh drum]

it’s very good code after all

[chrome knot]

waow i love magdalena bay

[vestal umbra]

like 1 of the same species?

@mint void

[solid frigate]

ah yes

Angel on a Satellite

[mint void]

@vestal umbra

Id probs go Tailroom stuff. Poss Ursaluna BM over normal Ursa

[vestal umbra]

hmm

[mint void]

Fill in the gaps with TW users and Sneasler

[solid frigate]

lol

Meanwhile my names are just this

[mint void]

Fit on some more DMG

[chrome knot]

I like cute looking name themes

[mint void]

My GC team was food

Next one will be flowers cause spring

[vestal umbra]

hold on wait

[solid frigate]

mine are just random Names that makes a bit of sense on them individually

[chrome knot]

i usually do albums I likke

or characters

[solid frigate]

fair enough

[chrome knot]

most of reg i has been Sanrio theme'd, most of reg h was hypchondriac by brakence

[dense latch]

i do songs sometimes when i do nicknames

[solid frigate]

i did not bother nicknaming teams in Reg H

Restricted formats i name them based on Video Game Characters,Memes or just something makes sense

[vestal umbra]

@mint void I DM'd u

[solid frigate]

like Tornadus Stormborn cuz well

He's literally controlling weathers and literally has moves that makes storms

[shadow wind]

That’s sick

[astral kelp]

i just lost to a stunky team

[shadow wind]

Got the replay?

[astral kelp]

oh shit yea wait

nope :(

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2343771576
got this tho

so basically it was a poison gas toxic stall team

and it was running both the evolution and pre evolution

i got aftermath jumpscared

also stunky TANKS +2 astral barrage

[solid frigate]

all they have to do

Is to use Scarf Shifu lol

[astral kelp]

yeah it was a weird game

[rustic mountain]

says the guy using mystic a week ago

[shadow wind]

I love mystic water Urshifu

[astral kelp]

scarfshifu seems kinda crazy into csr

[solid frigate]

i love both

but rn,Scarf is my friend

[rustic mountain]

mystic is ass in reg i

[astral kelp]

really why?

[rustic mountain]

increase in power ur threatened by so much its consistency seems to be lacking

if u want protect jus go sash imo

the bulks not worth the trade offs anymore to me

[astral kelp]

do people with mystic water not go 252atk 252 speed?

[rustic mountain]

hell no

[astral kelp]

right ic

[rustic mountain]

usually ur heavily sp def invested, decent amount of hp, some atk, and some speed to outspeed stuff depending on team comp (under tw after an e web etc)

nd then dump a little bit in def

[astral kelp]

lol i didnt know urshifu had so much variety

its usually like always the same

[solid frigate]

able to live Thunderclap to be exact

[astral kelp]

so that last one would be a bulier one

[solid frigate]

like a weak one at least-

[chrome knot]

almost lost to hard tr on 11xx 😭

[astral kelp]

bro wtf are 0.1 players doing

[shadow wind]

Me with my choice specs urshifu

Bro ain't no one on Bo3 ladder right now

[astral kelp]

ded as heel

[dense latch]

the top is lonely lol

[shadow wind]

It ain't even the top 😭

[plain drum]

Tackle /s

[dense latch]

close enough

cut me some slack :((

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2343790376-bl3oev2fhxogaotox86ejmx9rphq5nwpw

https://tenor.com/view/chi-yu-spin-rotate-pokemon-scarlet-violet-gif-2551289956493589259

[solid frigate]

that burn matters

[chrome knot]

no shit!!

[shadow wind]

Y'all ever just send messages to mess with your opponents in Bo3s?

[cyan smelt]

Like what

[shadow wind]

Just funny things like "Don't forget X mon" or "This game matters a whole lot for me"

[cyan smelt]

Idk I think all my opponents have had chat off

[foggy lodge]

I told someone sorry because I paralyzed their Koraidon 4 times in a row

[shadow wind]

I'll say mbad if I hax

I think for the time being I'm happy with 1400 on Bo3 ladder

[cyan smelt]

I won't apologise for ogerpon crit

[shadow wind]

It's just so punishing to play above that

[astral kelp]

today has been such an L day for me

ive lost a fuck ton of showdown games, a fcuk ton of brawlstars games and i cant get these fuckign textures to bind right

[shadow wind]

I'm going to start saying "I'm going to tera"

[cyan smelt]

When you're that good that you can make jokes with your opponent

[shadow wind]

Just an extra layer

[cyan smelt]

Idk how you feel like making jokes when Groudon misses three precipice blades in a row

[astral kelp]

I WAS 10/0

[strange fjord]

it be like that

[spiral ridge]

I’d forfeit as sorry if I did someone like that

[shadow wind]

Play Bo3

It's more consistent

[strange fjord]

fr i need more data- I mean yeah more consistency

[shadow wind]

Pizza I'm giving you SO MUCH data

I've played Groudon with pretty much everything at this point

Anyway time to take a break

Hollow Knight time baby

[astral kelp]

groudon + kyogre when?

[astral kelp]

are you a silksong in 2025 believer?

[shadow wind]

I mean it's confirmed

So yes?

[shadow wind]

And speaking of HK

Just did this 2 minutes ago

[mint void]

Anyone hace a CSR Pagos Balance team EVed I can get? Im in the train and don't have my teams on the phone

[craggy dagger]

is that pantheon 4-

[shadow wind]

Pantheon 4 all bindings

[craggy dagger]

damnnn

@spiral ridge get over here

[spiral ridge]

Oh dear god I’ve never even attempted that

I haven’t even beaten that thing normally

[craggy dagger]

i’m guessing you skipped optional bosses…?

[shadow wind]

Optional bosses?