competitive_discussion

[boreal mauve]

Blizzard

Base Power:

110

G-max Power:

140

Accuracy:

70

Category

Special

Type:

Ice

Power Points (PP)

5

Priority:

0

In-Game Desciption:

将猛烈的暴风雪
刮向对手进行攻击。
有时会让对手陷入冰冻状态。

Technical Description:

Inflicts regular damage. Has a 10% chance to freeze the target.

During hail, this move has 100% accuracy. It also has a (100 - accuracy)% chance to break through the protection of protect and detect.

Other Properties:

Does not make Contact
Affected by Protect
Not affected by Magic Coat
Not affected by Snatch
Affected by Mirror Move
Affected by King's Rock

Provided by Nexus-Z

[mint void]

You e8ther have a shit mon or a predictable bring/lead

That seems really...bad

Its usable as it was in reg G but thats it

[foggy lodge]

2nd restricted it's what helps it

[mint void]

Id say it rather holds the other one back

[foggy lodge]

You prepare for the CSR or the Kyurem you choose lol

[craggy dagger]

kyurem pagos maybe-?
or would you bring kyurem n like
lunala/misc

[foggy lodge]

AV seems fine for it tbh

Like the biggest problem is obviously being an ice type

95 speed is decent its faster than Kyogre or Groudon

And freeze dry helps with both

[craggy dagger]

you can always position/tera out of it

[foggy lodge]

Mhm

[mint void]

Hmmm

I immediately get ctsed

Someones ursh just committed on my rocky helmet

[solid frigate]

Kyurem is a bit selfish imo but do it

[mint void]

Anyone even playing GC?

[lofty tartan]

I'm not.

[mint void]

Im playing without tera on CSR

[azure tapir]

What roles do you feel are a must in doubles? It was way easier in singles because you use all 6 mons.... Me personally, I like pivot Wall,support, sweeper, and wallbreaker/revenge killer.. these I think are must. I'd just like more thought as I'm newer to doubles

[mint void]

@azure tapir irrelevant

[azure tapir]

Really?

[mint void]

You just need at least dmg from both sources. Its mostly just support, dmg and I guess restricted

Its really not as specific since you can double target

Having a designated physical wall makes no sense because of that

[azure tapir]

So wait ..... Wouldn't there be more strategy in singles then? Now I think I'm more confused...

[mint void]

No

Sonce in singles you just need to fill role slots and then have the right mon Infront of the roght thing

[dense latch]

the roles needed in a team vary heavily between them

tho there’s probably a few checkboxes that you can use like for example disruption through fake out, speed control, some form of redirection isn’t necessarily needed in all teams but it’s pretty good to have, etc

two pokemon on the field at once means you need to focus more on the synergy between your pokemon rather than their individual roles

[azure tapir]

Hmm

[next stump]

yeah those typical roles aren’t as relevant in VGC

very hard to be a wall when 2 pokémon can hit you

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/8961153beace73b1 less lame weezing

[mint void]

Played a Beat up+Justified + Silar Beam Groudon Team....

His Venusaur In sun was slower than my CSR

Wild

[fringe fossil]

Hear me out:
Kyeurem Groudon

[craggy dagger]

[mint void]

Hope this is a joke

[craggy dagger]

uh

[fringe fossil]

It is

[craggy dagger]

good

[fringe fossil]

Bc I don’t know shit abt pokemon comp and was playing showdown at my college bar

[mint void]

Lets run Kyogre Koraidon type shit

[astral kelp]

planing on it

i want to go to an aus regionals at the end of the year

[mint void]

Minimum hack check this Calyrex if u are taking it

[astral kelp]

since im planing to go visit there with my gf anyways

[astral kelp]

ah what happens if they find out a mon is hacked?

cuz a thing is
i traded for this shiny eternatus that i was planing to use but its kinda sus lmao

[mint void]

the mon gets removed

[craggy dagger]

they usually prevent you from competing in the event if things get bad no?

[mint void]

1st Fissure connected

[astral kelp]

yikes

that would suck imagine flying out to fucking australia for nothing lmao

[mint void]

Just the havked mon gets removed

If its ur restricted that's ass

[solid frigate]

back to Mirai Ogre i go

[rustic mountain]

19-1, the pressures on for 80% gxe

[rustic mountain]

would be a wild story to day 2 w/ 1 restricted in dres

[craggy dagger]

ohhh
i see

[next stump]

yeah definitely do not attend a regional with a randomly traded pokemon

they are SUPER strict now

if more than 2 of your pokemon are hacked you’re out

[solid frigate]

@craggy dagger i'm resetting my ladder win ratio

there is no way i can make it out alive now

[craggy dagger]

good luck

[rustic mountain]

20-1, cant believe that loss changed so much think id be a win or 2 away from 80% gxe otherwise

p sure im like 3-4 wins straight from getting it now

[dense latch]

good luck good luck

[rustic mountain]

haha thx, ive been here b4, lets see if i can actually convert

[dense latch]

bo3 or bo1 btw

[rustic mountain]

bo1

[dense latch]

80% gxe is still 80% gxe

[solid frigate]

i have to go back to Mirai Ogre to do Win L Ratio back

[rustic mountain]

currently sitting at 78.8

[dense latch]

i think 78% was my peak

[astral kelp]

how often do you guys reset your win ratio

[solid frigate]

i only did once

[dense latch]

i never do bc it doesn't really matter

[astral kelp]

i kinda play random teams with like a 30% gxe and then when i find a good team i just keep playing

so im currently at like 45%

[rustic mountain]

ive gotten 79ish a few times just havent hit that elusive 80

[astral kelp]

oh shit just made it to 50%

[dense latch]

im at a pretty mediocre gxe rn bc im kinda ass at reg i as of now at least

[rustic mountain]

u said u havent really been keeping up so

[dense latch]

i need to learn lines and stuff i wasnt really bringing the right stuff

[rustic mountain]

yea its an adjustment

[dense latch]

yea like u said format hasn't started yet so i have time

[rustic mountain]

cuz u got 2 broken mons instead of 1 to account for

on both ends

[dense latch]

my alt is 72 1387 at least

which is okay

[rustic mountain]

yea

[solid frigate]

i still have to perfect my Miraidon Kyogre Formula

Highest is 70% 1431

[rustic mountain]

u keep that gxe like that its more then ok

70+ is very good

60-70 is solid and 50 range is average

80+ is cracked

[dense latch]

once im free of all the stuff i have to do in the next month (ahhhhhh) i cant wait to really dip into this format

[rustic mountain]

ive been enjoying it

[dense latch]

cir miraidon has been pretty fun

[rustic mountain]

took like a week off

dont wanna play it too much either b4 it even starts

[dense latch]

i need some more practice into csr zama for sure

[rustic mountain]

feels like a top 3 duo imo

[dense latch]

i think it's one of those mus i dont bring cir into

[solid frigate]

CSR is still pain in the ass for me cuz Miraidon is slower than it

[rustic mountain]

[dense latch]

like the times i've brought i waste my tera on it and it does nothing afterwards

still finding what supporting cast i like best

cir mirai hands is a lock for me so far but there's a lot to try out honestly

[rustic mountain]

u gta be really specific which mus u are gna drop one of ur restricteds on, idk if on paper that seems like 1 id drop cir on. if i faced it and u dropped cir id throw a party

its really just how u position urself

[dense latch]

i think it's just me not playing around wide guard effectively

[solid frigate]

I'm busting out Iron Crown again in Reg I

[dense latch]

and positioning yea

i'll get stuck in a position where i really cant get rid of zama

that's the main issue

[rustic mountain]

yea its tough but try and make it so zama is forced to wide guard or u focus it down and have cir come in w/o having the threat of that

in some positions ur gna know like hey they prolly wanna wide guard here

u gta get a feel tbh that team is super position based but once u get the right boards its very strong

[dense latch]

like personally i'll find myself a lot against zama rillaboom

[rustic mountain]

atleast in my experience

[dense latch]

and that board state feels really awkward to play in

tr turns expire and then im kinda fucked and stuff

[rustic mountain]

if u have a mirai cir board ur golden, they cant protect themselves, protect rilla and also attack

[dense latch]

true

yea just need to work on positioning really

still getting used to playing miraidon

[rustic mountain]

its about knowing ur board presence and weighing wat u wanna do vs wat they wanna do, if u are able to get the pins down right its really annoying to deal w/ in my experience

cuz grass and water r ur most annoying types for those guys respectively, u threaten ice and electric its like wat do they even do most times

[dense latch]

i've found the tw kyogre matchup to be a bit problematic too, might be worth changing some teras

[astral kelp]

i feel lke miraidon is in every top 3 duo 💀

miraidon csr miraidon kyogre miraidon lunala

miraidon cir as well lmao

[foggy lodge]

cuz its the best restricted

[rustic mountain]

[astral kelp]

yeah its hilarious

[dense latch]

yea most of boltbeam's strength comes from pins so positioning makes or breaks matchups sometimes

https://pokepast.es/36af7bc7e32ef02b
https://pokepast.es/31ca3385140b2710
https://pokepast.es/509502a9341a1e1c

[astral kelp]

the bot is bugging out wth

[dense latch]

these are the teams i have in the builder

valiant's support seems interesting but still dont know if i want booster or sash/cloak on it

[rustic mountain]

p much, in my experience its mostly mirai chipping away w/ caly able to finish things/ chunk away as well and potentially set up speed control if it needs it. u dont always necessarily need that 1 board of mirai cir but it can be super threatening in certain spots

[astral kelp]

isnt valiant tanky enough to not need sash?

[dense latch]

potentially decent for the mirror to outspeed the opponent's miraidon

[astral kelp]

what is happening to the bot

[dense latch]

oh yea i slapped sash into that not too long ago so it's still the booster set lol

[rustic mountain]

its not that bulky

[dense latch]

should probably be frailer if im going sash

[astral kelp]

what the fuck

[solid frigate]

found a base Zama user what-

[rustic mountain]

sometime the bot bugs out just give it time

[dense latch]

tho valiant doesnt really need the attack invest unless im doing moonblast or sum

[astral kelp]

doesnt valient just run a bunch of support moves

[dense latch]

woo new summoning salt video

[rustic mountain]

ive played exactly 1 in like over 100 games haha

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2340186973-35fs4rlbqnrr0pktraukyesidnfe19fpw

Also Tree i am not kidding i got plumpeted so hard-

[foggy lodge]

Yeah usually

[astral kelp]

spirit break, wide guard, quick guard

icy wind maybe

feint

[solid frigate]

nah

[foggy lodge]

Wide guard encore spirit break taunt coachin

[rustic mountain]

y would u switch kyogre in there lmao

[astral kelp]

it even learns encore jesus

[solid frigate]

i just want Miraidon to sweep so yeah

[astral kelp]

encore taunt thuinder wave imprision trick room

[rustic mountain]

idk man just throwing it away like that seems bad haha

[astral kelp]

fuck man what doesnt it learn LOL

[rustic mountain]

ogre can just as easily sweep

[astral kelp]

iron val learns so many random as moves lmfao

liquidation??

also why did it just steal grimsnarls signature move

[solid frigate]

fair

But yeah i have to climb back to 1400-1500 with 70% GXE to publish my team

[astral kelp]

like lmfao

huh just as im building weezer

yeah i feel like regigigas fucking sucks

[dense latch]

tang is crazy lol

[astral kelp]

if they kill weezing regigigas just does nothing

[solid frigate]

same Ice Rider team or something else?

[dense latch]

used a team where every pokemon can miss

groudon jumpluff lmao

[solid frigate]

support set 🙂

[solid frigate]

oh god what is he doing-

[cyan smelt]

Special attacker regigigas

[dense latch]

somehow only drank six times

[solid frigate]

missed 6 times?

[mint void]

Ogre or Groudon

[solid frigate]

man the game really does not want him to be drunk

[rustic mountain]

gl

🫡

[dense latch]

yea

his chi yu locked in like crazy

[mint void]

Thats why protect and just crush grip twice

@dense latch what does he play?

[solid frigate]

i think solid core for Mirai Ogre is just the restricteds+Torn Hands

and two flex mons depend on your playstyle and covering matchups(And no i am not using Dozogiri to over them)

[dense latch]

.

[mint void]

Mb

[dense latch]

flutter chi yu rock pon bolt to round off

[cyan smelt]

Earth power gigas

[dense latch]

all good all good i just didnt wanna type it again lol

[mint void]

@dense latch missavle move on all mons then

[solid frigate]

Support Regigigas is actually legitimate lmao

[mint void]

Im 6-3/7-2 idk which I think 6-3

[dense latch]

im surprised he only missed six times in 15 games

[astral kelp]

really?

ive tried gigas a few times and it never does anything

[solid frigate]

look at the moveset

[astral kelp]

icy wind lmao

wide guards not bad

[cyan smelt]

Crush grip

[astral kelp]

so this?

[mint void]

Id say yes

[next stump]

i think i’ve seen thunder wave over crush grip

it’s not there to do any damage

or maybe it was over protect

[tiny karma]

Regigigas's moveset:

Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Avalanche, Body Press, Body Slam, Brick Break, Bulldoze, Crush Grip, Darkest Lariat, Dizzy Punch, Double-Edge, Drain Punch, Earthquake, Facade, Fire Punch, Fling, Focus Punch, Frustration, Giga Impact, Hammer Arm, Hard Press, Headbutt, Heat Crash, Heavy Slam, High Horsepower, Ice Punch, Iron Head, Knock Off, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Natural Gift, Payback, Pound, Power-Up Punch, Retaliate, Return, Revenge, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Secret Power, Smack Down, Stomp, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Strength, Superpower, Thunder Punch, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Ancient Power, Earth Power, Focus Blast, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Icy Wind, Mud-Slap, Round, Shock Wave, Snore, Tera Blast, Terrain Pulse, Thunder, Thunderbolt

Status Moves

Block, Confide, Confuse Ray, Double Team, Endure, Foresight, Gravity, Nature Power, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Rest, Rock Polish, Safeguard, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Thunder Wave, Toxic, Wide Guard

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Regigigas.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

i thought crush grip was like the entire point of the gigas

[solid frigate]

that was me who tried Support GIgas in Reg G lol

[mint void]

7-4 for the day

[tiny karma]

Move: Crush Grip

Power is equal to 120 * (target's current HP / target's maximum HP), rounded half down, but not less than 1.

Type

Normal

Category

Physical

Power

0

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[fringe fossil]

Thoughts on gogoat being competitively viable

Nevermind I take that back he’s ass

[river zealot]

Anyone wanna 1v1

[dense latch]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDeHDIRp9as&ab_channel=pokeaimMD woah that's me in the first battle

[river zealot]

anyone wanna 1v1

[left bobcat]

No

Too scary

[river zealot]

my team is mid

[astral kelp]

bro i just lost 3 in a roll

all of them against csr

and losin speed ties

i want chien pao

lets try this

eternatus kinda doesnt do anything that csr doesnt

and i need more ways to deal with dark types

man i want a fake out user

[river zealot]

wanna 1v1

[solid frigate]

#1046572041421197352

[dense latch]

yeah

[rustic mountain]

maybe, doesnt seem bad

[astral kelp]

thoughts on volt switch over low kick on hands?

[dense latch]

i think low kick is insanely valuable rn when most restricteds are super heavy

[astral kelp]

wb instead of drain punch?

[dull ibex]

Long time no see

[rustic mountain]

id agree w/ this

the lack of pivot option sucks but its tough to slot in now imo

[astral kelp]

with how slow hands is i feel like it would LOVE pivot

[rustic mountain]

it did it earlier formats

again tho, a lot tougher to justify slotting in now tho

could get away w/ fo/dp/wc and vs p easy before

low kick and even heavy slam have removed volt switch from the convo entirely w/ how things have progressed. something u could certainly try but as some1 whose run hands recently and missed volt switch i also could not see having it over any other move

[shadow wind]

What is my goat @dense latch doing in my Pokeaim video??

[rustic mountain]

think they mentioned b4 they were innit

[dense latch]

yeaaa it was so cool to battle him

[shadow wind]

Goat behaviour

[dense latch]

i sent the replay like a week or so ago i wasnt sure if a vid would even drop

[rustic mountain]

or if u would even make the vid

[dense latch]

yeah

[rustic mountain]

cuz didnt u win

[dense latch]

i think i did well enough

nah i lost

[rustic mountain]

oh

[dense latch]

he thinks through the turns way better than i did

[rustic mountain]

thats singles right?

[dense latch]

yea

[knotty geyser]

Quick question
If a a ghost mon wearing focus sash gets hit by Knock off and it 1 shots does sash still activate or does the mon just die?

[rustic mountain]

id say b/w u not being a singles player and hes like arguably the best ever u prolly did fine

[dense latch]

i’m not too big on singles but the OMs like almost any ability are really fun

[rustic mountain]

sash activates

as long as ur at full ofc

[knotty geyser]

Yea im curenty debating with somebody about this very topic

And im 100% sure this scenario happens

[rustic mountain]

as some1 whose used sash and been in that very scenario i can guarantee u thats wat happens

[dense latch]

yea i think i put up a decent fight

[rustic mountain]

nice

[dense latch]

what does b/w mean btw

[rustic mountain]

between

[dense latch]

ohh

i seem to face a lot of pros in singles metagames

i played mdb on broken cup ladder two weeks ago

[rustic mountain]

more of a niche community

[dense latch]

okay a lot is an overstatement

[rustic mountain]

vgc is a fraction of the pokemon community and singles is a fraction of that ur likely to run into the same ppl more often then not

[dense latch]

true

[rustic mountain]

probability wise atleast not necessarily actually playing them all the time

[dense latch]

@shadow wind can vouch

how many times have we played each other on ladder lol

[rustic mountain]

mdb ranked reg i so low already lmao

ive played vs conner a few times atleast

[shadow wind]

So many times 😔

I just be playing infinite games

So I’m bound to play everyone a couple of times

[rustic mountain]

ye was gna say lmao

also that

run the chance of it happening even more

[dense latch]

i got a few games of reg i tonight and one of my last games my opponent got full parad like 5 times in 7 turns

[shadow wind]

I just love the battle what can I say

[dense latch]

i love this format

[rustic mountain]

conner wen champions gets released:

[shadow wind]

I’m going to have even less of a life

I just need to find a Reg I team I can spam on ladder

[rustic mountain]

still early

[shadow wind]

Groudon’s niche is just gone

Koraidon has taken over

Which is why I will probably run Groudon Lunala

[dense latch]

og lunadon is pretty cool

i saw justin tang run it on stream not too long ago

[shadow wind]

I just really don’t wanna run Pblades + Meteor beam 😭

But man Meteor beam is awesome

[rustic mountain]

gta deal w/ the trade off then

[shadow wind]

100%

[rustic mountain]

[shadow wind]

Ground Rock offensively is pretty good

[rustic mountain]

yea both r great offensive types

[shadow wind]

Is Volcarona dead in the water or do you think it could still have some use?

[rustic mountain]

ive played vs it a handful of times, its not terrible

[shadow wind]

It’s like Ogerpon but more supportive

[rustic mountain]

nd a chance to burn physical attackers

[shadow wind]

Yup

[rustic mountain]

its nice vs like zama tbh

[knotty geyser]

Would sprit break have enough to 1 shot most other fighting type mons weak to fairy?

[shadow wind]

Yeah I’m thinking of running a core of Groudon, Lunala, Bolt, Volc

[shadow wind]

Depends on who is using it

And how much invest you give em

[knotty geyser]

Iron valiant

[rustic mountain]

even then prolly not

[knotty geyser]

359 phyical

[shadow wind]

Singles 😔

[rustic mountain]

if its for singles most ppl here dont play that

[knotty geyser]

Doubles

[rustic mountain]

but yea again like conner mentioned it depends

ur not gna 1 shot something like hands

[shadow wind]

Doubles OU or somethin?

[rustic mountain]

ud 1 shot darkshifu

[knotty geyser]

Ou yea

[shadow wind]

😱😱

[rustic mountain]

[knotty geyser]

Ima just go back to Iv being special invested

[rustic mountain]

idk much doubles ou

[knotty geyser]

Nothing phyical is over 80 base and CC not to useful on defensively weak mons

[rustic mountain]

it can be, some mons are meant to be glass cannons

[shadow wind]

I wonder if my Volc wants goggles or helmet more

I guess goggles doesn’t really help

[rustic mountain]

also cc can be used on bulkier stuff too ive seen it plenty

[shadow wind]

Rage powder 😔

[rustic mountain]

?

[shadow wind]

Well I can’t redirect spore like I’d want to with Volc

[rustic mountain]

ahhh

[cyan smelt]

Just taunt

[shadow wind]

Amoonguss is pretty slow

Nah yknow what, goggles Volc is the play

Cause it’s a fire type and can hurt the mushroom

[cyan smelt]

Amogus

[shadow wind]

Lorb Raging bolt my goat

[jaunty briar]

He so ahh

[astral kelp]

is amoongus even a thing anymore

istg in like 150 games i have yet to see an amoongus

[lofty tartan]

We're fond of Raging Bolt here

[astral kelp]

man ive had rb 1v3 games

its a crazy mon

unreasonably tanky

[jaunty briar]

Ive never used him before tbh so idk

His typing sucks though ngl

I mean its decent

Great defenses and HP

His spa is high too

He goes rlly well with pincurchin 😃

[mighty stump]

its been a while since I’ve seen a bad take

[chrome knot]

raging bolt had an entire format built around him

[foggy lodge]

electric dragon bad typing???

Its the same typing of the mon that won worlds💔

[patent marsh]

Someone hasn't been traumatised by seeing raging bolt every match yet

[wispy spade]

does Technician boost no item Acrobatics?

[dense latch]

No

only acrobatics with an item

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2340453952

This is so cursed-

[turbid vale]

can anyone help me build a tr team

[solid frigate]

back to 1200

300 more elo to go

goal,70% GXE Mirai Ogre team

[steady cove]

Anyone want to play Pokemon Stadium?

[thorny beacon]

@craggy dagger @untold urchin I was able to end the night going 10-5. Going to bed now to hopefully wake up at a normal time in case y'all wanna play your matches in your evening. Scotty will probably be playing as well .

[craggy dagger]

i’m gonna go 0-30

[spiral ridge]

Same

[bold geode]

You smell bitch

[spiral ridge]

:(

[bold geode]

OH bro I got SG skin

[spiral ridge]

SG?

Wha

[bold geode]

Squirrel Girl

[spiral ridge]

Ohh

Which of her skins??

[bold geode]

The new punk one

[spiral ridge]

The WHAT I didn’t know that existed I’ll look when I get home that sounds sick

I’ve saved enough for a legendary, but I don’t know what to get

[untold urchin]

ME TOO :D

[untold urchin]

DID THEY GIVE US THE ZOMBIE STRANGE SKIN YET

[spiral ridge]

Wait for Halloween

[untold urchin]

ITS AN MCU SKIN BASED OFF MULTIVERSE OF MADNESS

[spiral ridge]

L

[bold geode]

Sadly not

[untold urchin]

i need this

[bold geode]

It's not the best looking punk skin but I'm such a whore for those styles in games

Plus it's a character I actually play

[lost sun]

thoughts

[spiral ridge]

The punk magic is sick

Besides the bowl cut lmfao

[bold geode]

Yeah but I'm too slow for her LMAO

[spiral ridge]

Pff

I love how venom has like the best and worst skins lol

[bold geode]

I'm learning Venom fuck it

[spiral ridge]

I

What’s there to learn love

[bold geode]

How to shake dat ass

[solid frigate]

Hands feels like the actual core for Mirai ogre

[river zealot]

yo does anyone wanna battle

[solid frigate]

#1046572041421197352

[left bobcat]

LETS BATTLE

PEW PEW PEW

WAPAH

PIKACHU DODGE IT WOOOOOSH boom I win

Very fun battle

[wispy spade]

@untold urchin is that a ghost song?

[plain drum]

If you're talking about his bio, yeah it's Square Hammer

[untold urchin]

[grizzled island]

Can someone help me find a moveset for iron crown

[chrome knot]

psy noise tachyon cutter ? protect

[bold geode]

Tera Ground Blast

[solid frigate]

Iron Crown @ Expert Belt
Ability: Quark Drive
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 60 HP / 196 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature

• Tachyon Cutter
• Psychic Noise
• Tera Blast
• Protect

[grizzled island]

Tytyty

[gentle crag]

feral_vll has given 1 Gen Rep to morrispxg456

[grizzled island]

I keep seeing people using choice items for moridon, but I hate being locked into a set move, what are other good items for em?

[next stump]

life orb

assault vest and electric seed are very rarely used but sometimes you’ll see it, they’re harder to use

[grizzled island]

Life orb just makes me nervous honestly

[knotty geyser]

I can name 2 mons who could use vest

And 1 has been in vgc teams

[spiral ridge]

miraidon specifically

[next stump]

life orb is good enough to warrant the drawback

[knotty geyser]

Life orb is 20% more damage on top of the life drain every offensive skill used correct?

[solid frigate]

i think i figure out Mirai CIR and CSR Pagos MU for Mirai Ogre-

Just Slap Tornshifu and you basically nuke them

[grizzled island]

What about weakness policy i have that on my moridon

[solid frigate]

not recommended

[grizzled island]

Oh why is it not good?

[solid frigate]

you have to set up for 1 turn to do damage anyway

[next stump]

miraidon can’t live super effective hits easily

you’re better off with upfront damage

[solid frigate]

at this point just use Specs Set or even Calm Mind would not be bad if alternatives

[knotty geyser]

Is there anyway to use ogerpon cus I've tryed a good bit of different partners but oger just doesn't feel like a legendary more like a sudo legendary

[solid frigate]

i mean a Legendary even with minimal invest can still 2HKO Rilla and CIR

Well ogerpon rn its a offensive Support

[knotty geyser]

Ahhh offensive support k im using her wrong

Im curently testing out screens with oger and yea it's just not bulky enough to survive none treating moves she just dies or is out speed despite 350 speed after evs (ik that's above average when other monsters can clear 360+

[solid frigate]

wait.

level 100?

[knotty geyser]

Yes

Max speed investment with nature is 350

[solid frigate]

wait a minute what format you are playing-

[knotty geyser]

Im not talking about a format per say

Just stats in general

[solid frigate]

ok fair

but just lower it to level 50 to make your teambuilding easy for the match

cuz level 100 EV spreads are sub optimal

[knotty geyser]

I kinda wish Pokémon would introduce. What stats are like? When all mobs are locked at fifty, so you don't have to use alternate websites just to figure that out.Cause I still don't know

[solid frigate]

for a format that sues level 50 for bases

[solid frigate]

its kinda like 9 generations already i think its fine

Ogerpon-Hearthflame (F) @ Hearthflame Mask
Ability: Mold Breaker
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 212 HP / 76 Atk / 28 Def / 4 SpD / 188 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Ivy Cudgel
• Wood Hammer
• Follow Me
• Spiky Shield

You can use my spread during my regionals

[knotty geyser]

Thank you I will try this spread

[spiral ridge]

ohh SG is sick

[chrome knot]

hm..

[solid frigate]

My ass should not get that freeze=

and its 3 v 1

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2340886606-tv7i6dp2i6aw3l8xopisw422tggibxppw

[grizzled island]

I kinda got a spin on a team i like and I'm hoping to see it used once I finish evee training and hyper training the Ivs 💪✨️

But uh for innciroar what evees would I be going for

[solid frigate]

usually bulky, i like to run Mostly On HP and SpD with some Defense and Speed

if you have leftover EVs just throw it on Atk

[grizzled island]

Ty 😭 i saw this post on it but wasn't sure

[solid frigate]

mmmmmm yeah i don't recommend

cuz this is for level 100 Spread

[dense latch]

yea this spread wastes evs too at lvl 50

[solid frigate]

not level 50

[dense latch]

rule of thumb you should be investing in either 3 or 5 stats

2 4 or 6 wastes evs everytime

[grizzled island]

Ah

My incin is kinda in a trick room team

So shouldn't it be slow slow

[dense latch]

eh not really

[solid frigate]

Incineroar @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Intimidate
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 228 HP / 4 Atk / 52 Def / 140 SpD / 84 Spe
Careful Nature

• Flare Blitz
• Knock Off
• Fake Out
• Parting Shot

Like mine who uses this spread to outspeed Tailroom CIRs

[dense latch]

having faster fake out is actually better to get tr up easier

[bold geode]

Get off that website right now

[grizzled island]

Yes sir 🫡

[bold geode]

That website is abhorrent dogshit

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/domain-expansion-texas-boothill-hsr-boothill-hsr-gif-12130815054695445941

[grizzled island]

That's the same moveset and held item I was using lol

[solid frigate]

cuz its that popular and legit lol but yeah

[grizzled island]

Really? I just looked up incin competitive and looked at a few places and it's the only one that said it had builds for doubles

[dense latch]

use munchstats

[solid frigate]

it does not work cuz they don't really do VGC spreads

[grizzled island]

Ahh

[solid frigate]

VGCpastes or Munchstats have optimised spreads

[bold geode]

Game8 is horrible for stuff like that
Munchstats, Pikalytics

VGCpastes

[grizzled island]

Tysvm guys 😭🙏

[dense latch]

and filter for the higher rating ranges

bo3 is also probably better because you filter out those bo1 gimmicks

[solid frigate]

i always Meme them lmao

[grizzled island]

Question, why ghost Tera?

[solid frigate]

avoid Fake Out'd+Just a Solid defensive typing against Fighting Mostly

cuz Koraidon and Zama are gonna be Annoying

[grizzled island]

Ohh okay

[solid frigate]

especially Zama would now run Behemoth Bash (For Tera Fairy Punish)

Incin Walls that with Intim and stuff

if its Tera Ghost

[grizzled island]

So.. my moridons fairy Tera is bad for me when Zama is around

[solid frigate]

you have to time it right

personally

Just Click electro Drift on it

Zama dies to Edrift anyway

[grizzled island]

Ahh okay

Is it due to typing

[solid frigate]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 100 HP / 84 SpD Zamazenta-Crowned in Electric Terrain: 177-208 (98.3 - 115.5%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

Well Mostly OHKOs-

[solid frigate]

more like you don't die to Behemoth bash

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2340912157-shhugfoca4hhe9oomiref9em1gdo5n2pw

I hope this person trips and fucking falls down the stairs

[grizzled island]

Oop

[solid frigate]

emma what happend

[chrome knot]

annoying ass stall team when im alr tilt queueing LOL

like kill that

[solid frigate]

My eyes

[foggy lodge]

Happens

[solid frigate]

MY EYES

[grizzled island]

Stall team?

[solid frigate]

aka worst method tto play VGC

[grizzled island]

Oh, what's it do? Like stall for tie?? Or?

[dense latch]

be annoying

[chrome knot]

waste my fucking time

[dense latch]

stalls with poison generally or through very very slow chipping down

[grizzled island]

Ohh

[foggy lodge]

I liked my poison stall modes with Geezing

[solid frigate]

i'm suprised you did not use Covert but i won't argue about it anyway cuz Lefties+Grassy Terrain is insane

[foggy lodge]

💔

[chrome knot]

on what..?

[dense latch]

i’m disappointed

:((

[grizzled island]

I just watched a bit of it, (never used pokémon showdown before) but it looks like an annoying fight

[solid frigate]

Pagos?

[foggy lodge]

Nah dude lefties is the way for this format

[chrome knot]

leftovers better to keep spamming tera shell procs

[dense latch]

covert cloak pagos is fake imo

[grizzled island]

Can you explain what that means 😭🙏

[foggy lodge]

Cloak pagos could be real for reg G idk for this format

I feel the multiple tera shell is super valuable

[dense latch]

basically don’t think it’s a viable set this reg

[grizzled island]

Ah okay, like u can't use that item at all?

[dense latch]

i mean you can it’s just not great

[grizzled island]

Ohh okay

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/BTrickroomZ/status/1910717250958745833

ビッチィ【Yuta Ishigaki】 (@BTrickroomZ) on X

配信あざした！環境始まる前（多分4ヶ月前とか）に組んだ構築だからタコ負けするだろうな〜とか思ったら意外と勝てた🫤
当時上げた構築記事はこっそり非公開にしていましたが、多分もう使わないのでレンタル追加+ちょっとだけ追記して再公開します🫠...

X · Apr 11, 2025, 3:31 PM

[grizzled island]

I think I'm just about done my competitive team 💪✨️ just need to ev train and iv train

[solid frigate]

finally

something that is not Arubega

[dense latch]

this six looks so cool

[solid frigate]

lemme see

[solid frigate]

they finally show their braincell and no Arubega

[dense latch]

the sets are for a bo1 ladder tour i believe

there’s been a few cir mirai teams that arent arubega

that pelipper rockpon variant

i’ve seen hirofumi cir but mirai over bolt

[solid frigate]

yeah it just a relief to see them innovated

[grizzled island]

One second just gotta evolve the littin 😭

[dense latch]

i agree lol all i see as a cir mirai player is arubega

it’s the logical next step but MAN is it boring to see all the time

[solid frigate]

i think heatran could be funny on a Mirai CIR team but thats just me cuz Heatran can work on both modes

[dense latch]

i really wanna test out volc in cir mirai

i think the six yuta ran could be adapted for ots

i like no wide guard valiant in bo1 bc ppl are gonna respect the option regardless

[solid frigate]

from a Japanese team core to another we see lmao

[grizzled island]

I looked up that team and realized how simlar mine is to it 🥲 i used Dyl Yeomans as my reference

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2340919264-fnvs7wuxaji9pxxsb7uk5lebvhbbmjbpw

[solid frigate]

didn't Dyl's team have Iron Treads?

[dense latch]

looks nice, i do think you should change your item on incineroar

[grizzled island]

Yes but I hate that iron vacuum

[dense latch]

safety goggles loses a lot of its worth when electric terrain already blocks sleep from amoonguss

[grizzled island]

It does 🥲

[foggy lodge]

Go rocky helmet

[dense latch]

what move is activating throat spray on raichu?

[foggy lodge]

And specs on Miraidon

I think cloak is just bad on Miraidon it only works for funny gimmicky teams with it

[grizzled island]

One of these

[foggy lodge]

Like the Oranguru one

[dense latch]

cloak mirai teams usually have different pokemon arouns it yea

[solid frigate]

unless you are some person who run Tera Ghost Specs-

[tiny karma]

Raichu-Alola's moveset:

Physical Moves

Bide, Body Slam, Brick Break, Counter, Covet, Dig, Double Kick, Double Slap, Double-Edge, Dynamic Punch, Endeavor, Extreme Speed, Facade, Fake Out, Feint, Flail, Fling, Fly, Focus Punch, Frustration, Giga Impact, Headbutt, Heart Stamp, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Last Resort, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Natural Gift, Nuzzle, Pay Day, Play Rough, Present, Quick Attack, Rage, Return, Reversal, Rock Smash, Rollout, Secret Power, Seismic Toss, Skull Bash, Slam, Spark, Strength, Submission, Take Down, Thief, Thunder Punch, Trailblaze, Upper Hand, Volt Tackle, Wild Charge

Special Moves

Alluring Voice, Charge Beam, Disarming Voice, Discharge, Draining Kiss, Echoed Voice, Electro Ball, Electroweb, Expanding Force, Focus Blast, Future Sight, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Mud-Slap, Psychic, Psychic Noise, Psyshock, Rising Voltage, Round, Shock Wave, Signal Beam, Snore, Stored Power, Surf, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunder Shock, Thunderbolt, Uproar, Volt Switch, Zap Cannon

Status Moves

Agility, Ally Switch, Attract, Bestow, Calm Mind, Captivate, Celebrate, Charge, Charm, Confide, Curse, Defense Curl, Detect, Double Team, Eerie Impulse, Electric Terrain, Encore, Endure, Fake Tears, Flash, Follow Me, Growl, Happy Hour, Helping Hand, Hold Hands, Laser Focus, Light Screen, Lucky Chant, Magic Coat, Magic Room, Magnet Rise, Mimic, Nasty Plot, Play Nice, Protect, Psychic Terrain, Rain Dance, Recycle, Reflect, Refresh, Rest, Safeguard, Sing, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Speed Swap, Substitute, Swagger, Sweet Kiss, Sweet Scent, Tail Whip, Teeter Dance, Telekinesis, Teleport, Thunder Wave, Tickle, Toxic, Wish, Yawn

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Raichu-Alola.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[grizzled island]

Oh I put it on because it says prevents additional effects and moves

[foggy lodge]

It doesn't need it

[dense latch]

i’d swap out discharge for fake out on raichu

[solid frigate]

if you have fari you don't need Cloak

[grizzled island]

Oh okay, I thought it would stop like burn and poison

[dense latch]

only when it’s a secondary effect

[foggy lodge]

Only from secondary effects but it's not like Miraidon cares

[solid frigate]

outside of speed but Tailwind negates that debuff

[dense latch]

yea mirai and incin’s items feel redundant

[grizzled island]

I hate being stuck to one move that's why I was trying to avoid the specs stuff

[grizzled island]

Yeah i didn't know the electricity stopped the sleep so I added it due to that mushroom dude

[dense latch]

miraidon is easier to play with specs due to how much even resisted hits deal

• volt switch

[grizzled island]

Yea

Okay so it's the specs item right

[dense latch]

blasting stuff with draco or edrift makes the drawback of specs worth it

[grizzled island]

And what about incin? Idk what item would suit it better

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2340922006

I LOVE THIS TEAM-

[solid frigate]

rocky helm

[grizzled island]

Which side 🥲

[solid frigate]

Mirai Ogre

[grizzled island]

Ooo they have iron crown!

I saw this team with iron crown that wolfy said he had a hard time beating

[solid frigate]

thats the Psyspam version

mine is Electric Terrain version

[grizzled island]

Ooo

[chrome knot]

jesus christ please lock dazzling

cx

[grizzled island]

With my team, if someone has rila with grassy triain, how do I deal with them?

Cuz I see people using the whole grassy glide, with orger and rila

[solid frigate]

just Incin

Incin+ Mirai should be able to beat Rilla

[grizzled island]

Okay tyy

What should I Tera my raiachu

[solid frigate]

Fairy but since Alolan Raichu does not have volt Absorb then Maybe Ghost?

[dense latch]

maybe like ghost? something that isnt weak to ground for sure

[grizzled island]

Yes

[dense latch]

could be just a neutral type like water ig

[grizzled island]

And in Dyl Yeomans team she uses Tera water frig

[dense latch]

generally a good defensive tera

[grizzled island]

Ahh

Okay so it's because it's better defense wise?

[dense latch]

yea resistances to calyrex ice and urshifu rapid strike are great

and you only have two weaknesses

[grizzled island]

Is that ice guy a slow pokémon?

[chrome knot]

gore...

[dense latch]

calyrex you monster

[chrome knot]

how i love u csr

im having a weird problem tho

[dense latch]

relatively slow yea

[foggy lodge]

Wait how did you one shot a dark ursh

[chrome knot]

and its one i kinda figured id have

[dense latch]

magic

[chrome knot]

was +3 by this point

[foggy lodge]

Oh

[grizzled island]

I did it! My teams Tera are all fixed

[chrome knot]

t1 plot, t2 killed their cir

t3 nuke :3

[foggy lodge]

Average nasty plot CSR experience

[dense latch]

that lunala is 100% down to atoms after that

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2340926593-liqgkehhaj68mrabsgencwi3ympwy7qpw

fastest game vs tr ever lolz

[dense latch]

cant imagine what a +3 x4 super effective astral barrage must feel like to a pokemon

[grizzled island]

I hate that I can't change the name of pokémon I was traded. 😭

LET ME CHANGE MY ALONAN RAICHUS NAME😡

[solid frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1209607711352819802/1356974214778851378/stranger-things-fire-ezgif.com-overlay_1.gif

[shadow wind]

I'm not sure if Incin is the right 6th mon

[cyan smelt]

u need another paradox there

[latent leaf]

Did prime incineroar put up better numbers than prime LeBron

[shadow wind]

Yes

[dense latch]

2018 bron carried a team of bums into the finals i’ve never seen incin carry stuff like slurpuff to worlds finals

legoat clears

[shadow wind]

I love specs Miraidons

The read of spread move into forfeit

True combo

Also this is crazy

[tiny karma]

Move: Protect

The user is protected from most attacks made by other Pokemon during this turn. This move has a 1/X chance of being successful, where X starts at 1 and triples each time this move is successfully used. X resets to 1 if this move fails, if the user's last move used is not Baneful Bunker, Burning Bulwark, Detect, Endure, King's Shield, Max Guard, Obstruct, Protect, Quick Guard, Silk Trap, Spiky Shield, or Wide Guard, or if it was one of those moves and the user's protection was broken. Fails if the user moves last this turn.

Type

Normal

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

10 (16)

Priority

4

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[shadow wind]

Not sure if it's crazy it did that little or that it did that much

[dense latch]

reg h made it feel like facade from ursa was a guaranteed OHKO

[shadow wind]

Yeah real

I'm also 252 HP Groudon

I mean to be fair

It's still stronger than a lot of restricteds...

140 base atk
Choice banded
140 base power stab

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 383: Groudon

Type

Ground

Abilities

Drought

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/150/140/100/90/90

Total

670

Other Formes

Groudon-Primal

Sableye version 4.28.1

[shadow wind]

Like my Groudon is fat

And he still took 77%

[dense latch]

dealing 77% with a neutral hit to a pokemon with max hp and 100/140 defenses is insane highkey

[shadow wind]

Yes

9/10 times it will hit harder than a Calyrex

Calyrex without a beast boost*

[latent leaf]

Calyrex was a mistake

[shadow wind]

So was Ursaluna

A normal type with 140 base power does not need guts 😭

[latent leaf]

Regigigas should get huge power

[shadow wind]

Word

I can get behind that

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 486: Regigigas

Type

Normal

Abilities

Slow Start

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

110/160/110/80/110/100

Total

670

Sableye version 4.28.1

[shadow wind]

Yeah seems balanced

[cyan smelt]

conkeldurr has guts and 140 attack

[shadow wind]

Not stab facade

Facade has literally zero draw back

[rustic mountain]

u must be too young to remember wen he actually carried a team of bums in 2007 to the finals

that and 2001 76ers had no business being there

[dense latch]

yea i didnt follow basketball but i know about that lmao idk how he did that

[rustic mountain]

insane especially at his age

[shadow wind]

Dang LeBron was putting up numbers before I was even born

[cyan smelt]

ursaluna can be intimidated and stuff though

[rustic mountain]

even more of a testament to his greatness

mans career is older then u

[shadow wind]

My glorious king

[latent leaf]

If rayquaza was faster it would have put up better numbers than lebron

[rustic mountain]

mega ray u mean

[shadow wind]

We need a mon that keeps terrains off

[rustic mountain]

weezing

[dense latch]

same lmao

[latent leaf]

Delta stream should turn terrains off

[shadow wind]

I mean as their main ability

[atomic mural]

i was just gonna say that

[shadow wind]

Not just abilities off

[tiny karma]

Ability: Cloud Nine

While this Pokemon is active, the effects of weather conditions are disabled.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[shadow wind]

Need this but for the floor

[dense latch]

buff air lock to block terrain and weather

[latent leaf]

Delta stream should disable sound moves

[rustic mountain]

maybe eventually

[latent leaf]

That actually makes sense

Air lock too

[shadow wind]

Except liquid voice moves

Cause water

[dense latch]

water blown away

[shadow wind]

Then everything gets blown away

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Volt Switch vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Incineroar in Electric Terrain: 33-39 (113.7 - 134.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

I hate this calc

Mon is overtuned as frick

[cyan smelt]

amogus

[solid frigate]

Why would you not have SpD-

[rustic mountain]

0 spd incin is wild

[shadow wind]

I'm speedy

[solid frigate]

thats still 2HKO LMAO

[shadow wind]

My Incin uses fake out with the swiftness

[rustic mountain]

then take the trade off haha

[rustic mountain]

tru

[cyan smelt]

why does that look like something from minecraft

[shadow wind]

Minecraft movie pilled

[solid frigate]

do not let the minecraft movie brainwash you

And no it’s someone who made AV irl

[rustic mountain]

its cool they did a good job

[shadow wind]

Yeah it looks dope

[solid frigate]

I like it but i just don’t like how the movie got carried by memes more than Anything

[atomic mural]

it already has

[rustic mountain]

honestly a cool quality feature (maybe for ots) would be for them to have the item appear on the mon like that in game

[rustic mountain]

nah dude like the av the person made lmfao

fuck the minecraft movie haha

im not watching that shit

[shadow wind]

It was the greatest piece of cinema bro

[solid frigate]

oh

Yeah Irl AV Rilla is funni

[atomic mural]

first we mine, then we craft, lets minecraft 🔥 🔥 🔥

[shadow wind]

Chicken jockey 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[rustic mountain]

minecraft was a bit passed my time so never had that being something i resonated with

[shadow wind]

Valid

[solid frigate]

1.Sonic Movie Trilogy(PERFECTION)
2.Super Mario Bros Movie(They hard Fan servicing With bunch of References and the story isn’t bad but a bit rushed)
3.Detective Pikachu(Some weird Pokemon irl Designs but overall not a bad Movie)
4.Minecraft(That js basically carried by memes)

[shadow wind]

Out of those I've only seen the Minecraft movie

[solid frigate]

I watched all of them

[atomic mural]

watch sonic 1 2 and 3 they are all amazing

[rustic mountain]

ive seen 0/4 of those

[shadow wind]

0/6?

[rustic mountain]

yea

counted sonic as 1

[shadow wind]

Yeah

[atomic mural]

ok but 1/6 have jack black saying flint and steel

[shadow wind]

The theatre cheered for that

[solid frigate]

If i have to seperate the sonic Movies,3 is the best,2 is No.3 on the list and 1 is like between Super Mario and Detective Pikachu

[shadow wind]

People also threw popcorn when he said "Chicken Jockey"

[solid frigate]

thank god i am not here cuz if i am here i would have the most TERRIBLE movie experience

[gentle crag]

morrispxg456 has given 1 Gen Rep to connertep

[shadow wind]

It was funny

Only because I was out of the splash zone

Different story if I got hit

[atomic mural]

also really annoying if you are a person working there

[solid frigate]

Like we waited for the Minecraft Movie for like a decade and a Half and all we got its Memes

I feel dissapointed

[shadow wind]

It had some goated references in it

[atomic mural]

the first draft for the movie looked so much cooler

[atomic mural]

technoblade tribute was so awesome

[solid frigate]

I like the Technoblade reference

[shadow wind]

Exactly

[solid frigate]

and thats it

[shadow wind]

DanTDM and Mumbo Jumbo were in it

[atomic mural]

having pigstep was awesome

[solid frigate]

like the only good part of the movie is just 15 seconds

[shadow wind]

Pigstep was indeed epic

[solid frigate]

I know but it just feels under-utilised

Anyways i rather the movie is animated

[shadow wind]

Yknow that's fair

[atomic mural]

i saw DanTDM, aphmau and ldshadowlady but i never saw mumbojumbo

[shadow wind]

The animation choice was weird

[atomic mural]

real

[solid frigate]

i rather have like element Animations or something like that

[shadow wind]

In the scene with DanTDM

[atomic mural]

i wish they talked

[shadow wind]

Yeah

[atomic mural]

also jeb was in the movie too

[solid frigate]

bro even with Alan becker’s Animation Vs Minecraft would work fine cuz its absolute cinema without dialogues

[shadow wind]

"All this redstone stuff is a bunch of Mumbo Jumbo"

I wish they said it 😔

Who in the what

[solid frigate]

they are not cooking

[shadow wind]

Yeah nah

[rustic mountain]

gta b sub 1200

[atomic mural]

|i wish the post credit scene had ||the villager voice actor be the guy who voices the villagers in villager news (i forgot their name)||

[shadow wind]

Yes

[solid frigate]

watch me murder them with Mirai Ogre

[atomic mural]

PEAK🔥 🔥 🔥

[shadow wind]

Bro Raichu would get you

[solid frigate]

Da da da da da da da da da da da

villager News

[rustic mountain]

raichu a world champ put some respect on its name

[shadow wind]

I didn't know Urshifu could take that little from a special attack

[rustic mountain]

[atomic mural]

only news source i trust 🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️

[shadow wind]

The only way I can describe the Minecraft movie is that I felt 7 again playing Minecraft

[atomic mural]

i can deciribe the minecraft movie as it was the movie of all time

[shadow wind]

Sure was a movie of all time

I just clicked wicked blow and then looked away and literally said "Wow that crit was lucky"

[atomic mural]

bor forgot what he was using

[shadow wind]

I even clicked it because I was -1

[cyan smelt]

Maybe I should add urshifu to my team so they can't protect in tr

[shadow wind]

I'm multitasking poorly apparently

[rustic mountain]

wen u remember urshifu

[rustic mountain]

dude i wanna know tf designed that guy

[shadow wind]

That and the Calyrexes

[rustic mountain]

like we gta talk

[shadow wind]

Someone who really likes money

[atomic mural]

i love using weezing to stop people from using urshifu

[rustic mountain]

calyrexes are honestly fine tbh, tera just makes em more annoying

[shadow wind]

This is very true

[rustic mountain]

urshifu tho like wtf

if u nerf unseen fist to hit thru protect for 30% its fine

[cyan smelt]

Urshifu should get burnt from burning bulwark

[shadow wind]

Nah

[atomic mural]

if i was game freak i would nerf unseen fist to the same amount as z moves hitting protect

[shadow wind]

Or Dynamax...

[atomic mural]

yeah true

[shadow wind]

Used to be somewhat balanced with max guard

[rustic mountain]

i think a mon ignoring a core aspect of the game is problematic
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GO5vpVNWUAAvwhk?format=jpg&name=small

[shadow wind]

Balanced with a huge *

Frick that I ain't spellin it

Why is it when I want to test teams I get put against Ho oh Dialga

What is this helping me test

Ah, perfect

Infinite luck

Also is Overheat the right choice on Volc?

Like obviously there's no correct answer to that

But in a meta with huge offensive threats is it more worth to run overheat and no invest?

[dense latch]

yuta ran fiery dance on his last team with support volc

kinda punishes ignoring it i suppose

[shadow wind]

Did he have sun though?

Also why did Rillaboom take 50 from overheat...

No invest Volc does not hit

I just knew I didn't want heat wave

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2340977004

Last 2 turns I was all in

The team lowkey feels good

Also do any other items work on Lunala?

[cyan smelt]

Leftovers lol

[shadow wind]

I have lefties

They just don’t feel great but that might just be me

[solid frigate]

heat wave or Fiery Dance imo

[cyan smelt]

Power herb

[shadow wind]

I’ve written off power herb

[cyan smelt]

You could run grassy terrain grassy seed

[solid frigate]

My Regular Schedule of Miraidon Kyogre Team be like

[shadow wind]

Pblades AND meteor beam? Heck nah I’m missing everything

[shadow wind]

There really is no reason to run flame thrower huh

Well it’s between fiery dance and overheat for me

I want to limit my missing moves and I know overheat can miss but it’s a once per switch in move

[solid frigate]

yeah cuz like heat Wave does that as well and Fiery dance gives SpA boost

[shadow wind]

Heat miss more like

If I see

“Groudon is using Precipice blades”

“Volcarona is using heat wave”

I’m just forfeiting the game then and there

[solid frigate]

I mean

[shadow wind]

Just don’t position them like that, yeah I know I know

[solid frigate]

fiery dance then,Sure it does not give extra way to do burn but having SpA boost

[shadow wind]

I’ll probably test out both

Fiery dance and overheat that is

I’m also 252 hp 252+ def

And I still take 33% from Zama body press

[cyan smelt]

hi wolfey

[shadow wind]

This team was scary

[cyan smelt]

what did the murkrow do

[shadow wind]

Not a lot

Got blown the frick up by Bolt

But that team was cooked to fight

Even though I have 2 dark types they both got hit hard

[cyan smelt]

double ghost is scary

[shadow wind]

Double ghost psyspam

[cyan smelt]

my team has a psyspam mode except no e-force

[shadow wind]

Then is it really psyspam?

[cyan smelt]

ig not, but i don't want lunala to be walled by wide guard

[shadow wind]

Walled by wide guard?

Moongeist beam? 🙏

[cyan smelt]

yeah moongeist, meteor beam and moonblast

[shadow wind]

3 attack?

Dropped tr I'm guessing?

[cyan smelt]

thinking replacing one of them with tr

yeah but tera normal caly-s is a problem

[shadow wind]

Groudon no TR is hard

[cyan smelt]

wait thinking bout replacing one of em with wide guard i meant

[shadow wind]

You were running no wide guard?

[cyan smelt]

i forget now lol i need to check the team again

[shadow wind]

Bro is NOT 2nd place at 2022 worlds !

https://pokepast.es/f9bbf73cdeb00e45

Only thing I remembered about that team

No wide guard

[cyan smelt]

ok i put wide guard back on it but i was running moonblast for a bit

[shadow wind]

I run moonblast

Got that Flutter mane stabs

[cyan smelt]

should i drop wide guard?

[shadow wind]

No clue

I love when I high roll with a 53% then low roll with a 46%

[cyan smelt]

i could get rid of indeedee and run something else, idk what else i could run though

[shadow wind]

These are the 6 I'm running

[cyan smelt]

i'm running bolt, lunala, groudon, indeedee, ogerpon, moon

[shadow wind]

Interesting

I remembering trying Indeedee

I didn't like the anti-synergy with her and bolt

[cyan smelt]

there's enough overwriting terrain that bolt can still use t-clap

[shadow wind]

Fair enough

I ran this day 1

[turbid vale]

can anypne build me a tr team

[shadow wind]

Sure

[turbid vale]

alr

what pokemon can we start euth

[shadow wind]

Reg I?

[turbid vale]

yeah

[shadow wind]

Alright hard TR or just like soft TR?

[turbid vale]

i forgot whats soft tr-

[shadow wind]

Like TR is an option on the team but not the main focus

Let me find an example

[turbid vale]

soft tr

[turbid vale]

cus i cannot always set up tr

[shadow wind]

So there is a definite difference between soft tr and tailroom teams but for the sake of me explaining it's the same right now

https://pokepast.es/e5e59f4de5381bfc

Worlds 2024 winner team

While it has Miraidon and tailwind, it also has trick room mons like Iron hands and Farigiraf

They never need TR up to win the game

It isn't the main strat but a very useful tool they can utilize

https://pokepast.es/aba49445b67a73e6

Stockholm Regional winner

This is hard tr

[turbid vale]

yeah ill think ill go with soft tr

[shadow wind]

Hard TR they set up TR every single time

I don't even know how well hard tr works in Reg I

So yeah soft tr will probably work better anyway

[turbid vale]

mhm

[shadow wind]

There's only a couple restricteds that want to be in TR so you'll need to use one of those

Terapagos, Groudon, CIR

So if you wanna pick one of those then we can continue

[cyan smelt]

you know i might try out iron hands to help deal with zama or at least force a tera

oh but then i have two electric types nvm

[thorny beacon]

15-7 as of now. First time ever getting above 1600 rating

[cyan smelt]

transform smeargle is hilarious

[cyan smelt]

-8ball should I see how my team goes in bo1 for a while instead of bo3

[gentle crag]

should I see how my team goes in bo1 for a while instead of bo3
:8ball: Ask again later

[shadow wind]

This might be the dopest icon I've seen

[turbid vale]

whats cir

[shadow wind]

Calyrex ice rider

[turbid vale]

ph then cir

[shadow wind]

Yeah

[turbid vale]

or shadow

[shadow wind]

Well CIR is better for tr

CIR Miraidon is a good combo

[turbid vale]

ok and

[shadow wind]

And what?

The other 4 mons you mean?

[cyan smelt]

People have just modified the world's team to add cir

No ogerpon

[shadow wind]

I mean if it ain't broke don't fix it

[turbid vale]

yes

[shadow wind]

Probably something like Iron Hands and Farig for the TR mode