still trying to optimize csr/zama
#competitive_discussion
shadow wind
It definitely is
spiral ridge
Curious cus still haven’t touched I but are weather wars lot more common?
shadow wind
Very consistent but it seems like the mirror is tough
turbid vale
wait then reg i
shadow wind
Curious cus still haven’t touched I but are weather wars lot more common?
Nah not really
rustic mountain
Very consistent but it seems like the mirror is tough
thats the main thing im working on trying to fix atm lol
shadow wind
Most of the top dogs(pun intended) don’t rely on weathers
molten oasis
I don’t think it’s bad
rustic mountain
especially these dumbass imprison players
molten oasis
Like at all, I think it’s really good you’re just relying on positioning
dense latch
i saw someone running imprison on both csr and zama lmao
rustic mountain
Like at all, I think it’s really good you’re just relying on positioning
isnt that every team?
molten oasis
So I don’t get why everyone else is lowkey hating on it
rustic mountain
i saw someone running imprison on both csr and zama lmao
jfc man these lazy ass mfers
molten oasis
isnt that every team?
Uh, man
Ok MORE reliant on positioning
Because you want kyogre to be at like 70-max hp
Or you’re relying on pulse
rustic mountain
usually around 75% range it starts to be weaker then pulse iirc
maybe im misremembering but yea
makes sense
i feel the main difference is
dense latch
sometimes i look up moves from pokemon on google forgetting they're like actual stuff most of the time
rustic mountain
u only need 1 spout now really
dense latch
had to scroll a bit to find pokemon water spout
rustic mountain
if u get the right spout out, idc if my kyogre even goes down
being as its not the pure vocal point anymore
solid frigate
wait then reg i
so rn trick room has split into 3
Hard TR,which dedicate to use trick room to sweep opponents,also the hardest to use (Palkia CIR or Dialga CIR )
Soft TR,you can go for non TR but its more like oppoturnisticly using TR for some use cases (CIR Lunala or CIR Kyogre )
Tailroom,basically Tailwind or TR mode build in and you can be more flexible on how you use it (CIR+Any fast restricteds like Miraidon or Zacian)
It depends what you want
rustic mountain
#torrentakes
solid frigate
#torrentakes
bruh lmao
rustic mountain
turbid vale
so rn trick room has split into 3
Hard TR,which dedicate to use trick room to s...
uh which is the most beginner friendly
rustic mountain
hard tr
astral kelp
lol ikr
dense latch
hard tr has the lowest floor imo yea
solid frigate
easy MU most of the time if pokemon don't have anything else to counter TR
dense latch
but as you improve you need to think a few turns ahead to use hard tr at its best
solid frigate
which is why you rarely see me run it
rustic mountain
hard tr has the lowest floor imo yea
moreso just easiest to pick up, its more clear cut wat ur doing/gameplan. there is nuance to how u can play it as shown by michael recently and other hard tr players b4 him
solid frigate
its linear sure
molten oasis
being as its not the pure vocal point anymore
See I agree
solid frigate
but its easy enough to use it
molten oasis
One spout is so much value
rustic mountain
its linear sure
more like it can be, hence easiest to pick up. good hard tr players do not play it linear
molten oasis
Then zacian is the cleanup crew in the back and it’s like totally fine for the rest of the game
rustic mountain
generally or ur able to have em both out on the field ideally to threaten anything on the other side no matter tera and what not
molten oasis
Idk I might just, need to try and keep my mind straight and not let other people chance my opinion cuz I lowkey think swordfish is really good
rustic mountain
Idk I might just, need to try and keep my mind straight and not let other people...
remember wen ppl thought miraidon was trash early reg g
solid frigate
i think the hardest thing for hard TR rn is
Which restricted pair you want
molten oasis
remember wen ppl thought miraidon was trash early reg g
That’s a good point
rustic mountain
not saying swordfish is gna be miraidon lvl dominance but
molten oasis
Cuz it hasn’t felt bad lol
solid frigate
wata
rustic mountain
i think the hardest thing for hard TR rn is
Which restricted pair you want
i think mirai is cir's best partner so idt hard tr is gna b as good. its tougher to get it up and sustain it with so many strong options on the opposing side w/ spread damage + wide guard
turbid vale
but its easy enough to use it
then tailwind then ill move onto parish song
rustic mountain
u want it to be more of a mode u can go to but not a mode u solely rely on, atleast to me anyway
parish song, are we in church?
solid frigate
i think mirai is cir's best partner so idt hard tr is gna b as good. its tougher...
me when i run Miraidon Kyogre just because it feels underrated
turbid vale
parish song, are we in church?
your pokemon will faint if they hear 3 rounds of this song
solid frigate
then tailwind then ill move onto parish song
so hard TR then TW then Perish song,that sounds fine to learn
turbid vale
so hard TR then TW then Perish song,that sounds fine to learn
yeah and battlr stadium doubles
solid frigate
so VGC
rustic mountain
me when i run Miraidon Kyogre just because it feels underrated
i heard its good, to me wen 1 mon can hurt be super disrupting or threatening to those guys, it makes it feel awkward. the 1 mon being rilla
depends how u handle it tho ig
still have 4 other slots ofc
solid frigate
i heard its good, to me wen 1 mon can hurt be super disrupting or threatening to...
i think this core i made and you give edits is the most disruptive core i ever used
cuz Volt switch feels more important there
rustic mountain
your pokemon will faint if they hear 3 rounds of this song
yea it was a joke haha its perish song
molten oasis
i dont play vs it much rn
People like Lunala and Mirai
And kyogre is weird to play atm
spiral ridge
i heard its good, to me wen 1 mon can hurt be super disrupting or threatening to...
Can torn fix that issue?
molten oasis
I like kyogre tho, like if it’s positioned ok it’s good
rustic mountain
Can torn fix that issue?
potentially, for me, i have wide guard support so usually torn cant touch me
solid frigate
still have 4 other slots ofc
also i think this core is also good on teaching me how to beat rillaboom without a fire type
rustic mountain
cuz Volt switch feels more important there
nice to be able to reposition while doing nice damage in the process
turbid vale
also i think this core is also good on teaching me how to beat rillaboom without...
can u dm me for the team and strat
solid frigate
can u dm me for the team and strat
i could give you some good sample team that won the recent regional
turbid vale
i could give you some good sample team that won the recent regional
give me the sample team and then after ill try it ill make some tweaks with it
molten oasis
that i dont see being good
I mostly don’t see Mirai
I’ve played a little Lunala Zac it’s pretty solid but Mirai felt so bad into Ila so
dense latch
https://pokepast.es/69e2744bb6f0d88e a friend of mine was trying this team out for a bit not sure how it went for him tho
left bobcat
Lost in the sauce
molten oasis
Lando* not incin
rustic mountain
no
latent leaf
Crazy
dense latch
i’ve seen no lando or amoong since i started playing reg i
idk if im just avoiding them or they’ve just dropped a lot
rustic mountain
dropped but i still see em
molten oasis
really? i def am seeing it a decent amount
I don’t see Mirai WITH Zac
solid frigate
Is garchomp still any good
fall off in higher power
molten oasis
I see miraidon all the time
solid frigate
i’ve seen no lando or amoong since i started playing reg i
ahem
i still use Lando and its still good-
dense latch
yea ik it’s still good thats y i was surprised to not see it that often
molten oasis
Also may go thunder kyogre
dense latch
lando was one of my favs in reg g
molten oasis
I don’t click ice beam much
molten oasis
Zac Pao and torn wreck its shit
solid frigate
Zac Pao and torn wreck its shit
i am debating if i wanna go for Chien Pao in my team but Incin is my replacement for idfk who
molten oasis
I think thunder would be nice as another shifu torn precaution and Tera water mons are getting a little annoying
https://pokepast.es/8554a36f0e432317 running this atm
solid frigate
I think thunder would be nice as another shifu torn precaution and Tera water mo...
valid
rustic mountain
I see miraidon all the time
was starting to question if we existed in different timelines
shadow wind
The ladder experience sure is strange
molten oasis
Yea lol
shadow wind
Y’all Bo1 or Bo3?
cyan smelt
Time for more bo3
rustic mountain
bo1, ill prolly dabble in bo3 at some point this reg
shadow wind
Bo3 goated
rustic mountain
its great but im not really competing like that atm
molten oasis
I’ll play bo3 once I start getting comfortable-ish
I’m debating if I go to NAIC or not
solid frigate
mirai bundle stonks be like rn
rustic mountain
naic is wen
solid frigate
like in Reg I i think
Close to when Switch 2 is released
shadow wind
Groudon Ho oh seems anti meta but I might be huffing some gas fumes
rustic mountain
i think u know the answer
shadow wind
Yeah😔
rustic mountain
like in Reg I i think
Close to when Switch 2 is released
ik its reg i lmao i meant the date
dense latch
can't wait for the switch 2 to come out and make me feel poor
solid frigate
Groudon Ho oh seems anti meta but I might be huffing some gas fumes
its ok but like
You gonna have to make it work
rustic mountain
i was being lazy ill just look it up
shadow wind
can't wait for the switch 2 to come out and make me feel poor
It’s so over
solid frigate
can't wait for the switch 2 to come out and make me feel poor
i am actually interested in the Kirby DLC and the new Zelda title
rustic mountain
switch 2 console price: fine
switch 2 game price: wtf
dense latch
switch 2 console price: fine
switch 2 game price: wtf
exactly
solid frigate
sadly no Xenoblade 2 HD
cyan smelt
I'm looking forward to donkey Kong bananza
dense latch
i remember they made the 3ds cheaper a few months after release or so
idk if they'll do the same with games though
rustic mountain
molten oasis
naic is wen
June
solid frigate
I'm looking forward to donkey Kong bananza
the new DK design is gonna be memed so hard that it blew away Dedede’s redesign
molten oasis
Really debating if I go buy switch 2 or not basically
chrome knot
ok i kinda love this format
dense latch
i dont think there's enough switch 2 exclusives for me to wanna buy it like on release
solid frigate
ok i kinda love this format
Reg I? Yeah its cool
rustic mountain
June
atleast a month for this format to develop so id say give it a try if u have the money/time
rustic mountain
ok i kinda love this format
im enjoying it a lot so far
chrome knot
csr zam is fuckin crazy
solid frigate
I’m just using underrated yet teaches me a lesson on placement
molten oasis
atleast a month for this format to develop so id say give it a try if u have the...
Yea
chrome knot
rustic mountain
i dont think there's enough switch 2 exclusives for me to wanna buy it like on r...
ur gna buy it and ur gna like it
chrome knot
giving bro thr slam dunk to finish the game
rustic mountain
but yea idt imma get it on release either
molten oasis
I think this month I’m just gonna pick what dual combo I do then just experiment
solid frigate
Man the more i played my Miraidon Kyogre team the more i learned i should not be reckless
shadow wind
Bro Wolfey is going to show up to worlds with like Zama, CSR, Incin, Rillaboom, Urshifu, Grimmsnarl and call it cool
rustic mountain
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2334853485-cqhaik06loo76r9i8k...
poor kyogre lmao
solid frigate
Bro Wolfey is going to show up to worlds with like Zama, CSR, Incin, Rillaboom, ...
isnt he a Koraidon player as well because of the team? He might bring it
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Sableye version 4.28.1
solid frigate
https://youtu.be/5V0kzLYkYTM?si=0FOVUQ3o62OQ4EBM
Me and Conner be like when arguing about which weather duo is the best
dense latch
if they had announced a new 3d mario or something crazy like smash 6 releasing soon i would've gotten the switch 2 in a heartbeat
rustic mountain
I think this month I’m just gonna pick what dual combo I do then just experiment
actin like 1/2 of it wont be zacian
solid frigate
if they had announced a new 3d mario or something crazy like smash 6 releasing s...
Galaxy 3 plsssssssss
astral kelp
i need flamethrower on my eternatus lol
chrome knot
poor kyogre lmao
it was such an easy button press
dense latch
lowkey the gamecube games are smth i do wanna try tho
chrome knot
had to teach him a lesson
astral kelp
or should i run fire blast
dense latch
super mario strikers is a game i always wanted to try and the pokemon games must be nice
molten oasis
actin like 1/2 of it wont be zacian
Ofc
I love zacian, I was more saying the other restricted
solid frigate
super mario strikers is a game i always wanted to try and the pokemon games must...
i did strikers Charged and super sluggers
GOATED GAMES
rustic mountain
oh also how come nobody here has mentioned ports of colosseum and xd on switch 2 nso online 
dense latch
Galaxy 3 plsssssssss
molten oasis
oh also how come nobody here has mentioned ports of colosseum and xd on switch 2...
I ain’t paying $50 for that
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
dense latch
NINTENDOO DROP ANOTHER MARIO GALAXY GAME AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
shadow wind
https://youtu.be/5V0kzLYkYTM?si=0FOVUQ3o62OQ4EBM
Me and Conner be like when arg...
Nah I know rain is better at heart
rustic mountain
I ain’t paying $50 for that
i am 
spiral ridge
oh also how come nobody here has mentioned ports of colosseum and xd on switch 2...
I’ve never played them so can’t wait
dense latch
i already am paying it for the n64 stuff and the mario kart dlc lmao
spiral ridge
When do they drop
shadow wind
At least water can overpower through the sun, fire is hitting against water types
rustic mountain
I’ve never played them so can’t wait
i didnt play xd so also lookin forward to that but colosseum is one of my favs
solid frigate
NINTENDOO DROP ANOTHER MARIO GALAXY GAME AND MY LIFE IS YOURS
coping so hard
rustic mountain
When do they drop
idk i think around wen switch 2 releases
spiral ridge
i didnt play xd so also lookin forward to that but colosseum is one of my favs
I’m young so first Pokémon was pokepark lmfao
rustic mountain
tf is pokepark
spiral ridge
WHOCH WAS PEAK
dense latch
pokepark 2 was so fun
solid frigate
At least water can overpower through the sun, fire is hitting against water type...
i have to calc My Kyogre’s Water attacks in Sun lmao
spiral ridge
tf is pokepark
wii game that was amazing
dense latch
i have great memories w that game
rustic mountain
yea never played that 1
chrome knot
new pokepark would be insane🥺
spiral ridge
ID LOVE RHAT
rustic mountain
spiral ridge
<:pepeSellCopium:1121269591952339045>
Okay look I just got silksong I’m taking a tolerance break from copium
shadow wind
i have to calc My Kyogre’s Water attacks in Sun lmao
Yeah see ain’t no point in me calcing fire in rain
solid frigate
pokepark 2 was so fun
i played the wii version but its all Japanese Sub idfk what am i gonna do
craggy dagger
spiral ridge
Okay look I just got silksong I’m taking a tolerance break from copium
- still many sequels I cope about
dense latch
also it's cool that a lot of the fanbases dying to see new content for their games got them in the past week or so
like tomodachi life deltarune and silksong
solid frigate
shadow wind
My goat would never back down !
craggy dagger
how fast are average kyogre and do you think kyogre can work in trick room…
spiral ridge
Kyogre CIR?
craggy dagger
Kyogre CIR?
duskgloom seas (dusk mane kyogre)
shadow wind
how fast are average kyogre and do you think kyogre can work in trick room…
Could just go 112 to outspeed CSR
dense latch
but i feel like i would replay some of the games i've already played on the switch if i had the switch 2 just bc of the graphics increase
shadow wind
It’s like 12 evs
solid frigate
Could just go 112 to outspeed CSR
i run that yeah
craggy dagger
spiral ridge
though i still have a GC to finish
Oh god same
Time to actually get team polished lol
molten oasis
My thing with paying for that Nintendo service is that 1, it’s $50
shadow wind
I never lead Groudon into weather war games anyway
molten oasis
And 2 idt id use it that much
craggy dagger
we running imprison ice rider to piss people off 
spiral ridge
we running imprison ice rider to piss people off <:MumeiThumbsUp:109981066139297...
Stinky
solid frigate
we running imprison ice rider to piss people off <:MumeiThumbsUp:109981066139297...
Fair
shadow wind
And like lowkey it's been working fine so I'm not changing anything yet
solid frigate
I never lead Groudon into weather war games anyway
i think i like to well Hard Switch Ogre into Fari and Volt switch out to bring Back Kyogre in incase torn sunny day or whatever to remove Weather
thats one of my fav disruptive play
left bobcat
Woah
shadow wind
My team doesn't rely on weather for damage too much so it's like whatever for me
left bobcat
New world
shadow wind
Bolt and sacred fire I guess
craggy dagger
also groudon lunala are a popular duo right?
left bobcat
Sacred water
solid frigate
My team doesn't rely on weather for damage too much so it's like whatever for me
i mean
You are just spamming Ground type move for Groudon-
shadow wind
Yuh yuh yuh
solid frigate
also groudon lunala are a popular duo right?
yeah but hard to use i think
shadow wind
also groudon lunala are a popular duo right?
I ran em day one but I changed Lunala out
left bobcat
yeah but hard to use i think
SCHYEAHHHHHH
craggy dagger
what’s run with groudon?
shadow wind
I did like it though, I wouldn't say common
lost sun
does chi yus ability work like intimidate or does it work on mons that just swapped in aswell
solid frigate
Nova you literally saw me how terrible i am on using Lunadon-
shadow wind
what’s run with groudon?
I'm currently running Ho oh but I bet Miraidon cooks
craggy dagger
Nova you literally saw me how terrible i am on using Lunadon-
okay but i tried to help pilot that and we messed up so bad 😭
craggy dagger
I'm currently running Ho oh but I bet Miraidon cooks
ho oh :0
solid frigate
does chi yus ability work like intimidate or does it work on mons that just swap...
well lesser Intim on field
solid frigate
okay but i tried to help pilot that and we messed up so bad 😭
And Sandy shocks did some trolling
craggy dagger
how’s that going?
i remember trying ho oh koraidon
shadow wind
Incredible lowkey
Chillin here currently
Don't mind the GXE I did a lot of testing
craggy dagger
tailwind or recover/life dew?
shadow wind
Tailwind
left bobcat
Recover
latent leaf
When the smart kids in class get a different answer
craggy dagger
Tailwind
makes sense-
tera grass set?
i’ll be honest, i really wanna make ho oh work but i have no clue how
shadow wind
Yeah tera grass clam
cyan smelt
lost my first game
left bobcat
lost my first game
Welcome to the club
craggy dagger
lost my first game
shadow wind
That's the 6 I'm workin with
craggy dagger
oh ditto?
that’s a cool team
shadow wind
Still working it out though
Ditto is great for Zacian Kyogre
Which the team hates
Maya and I made it so I can't take all the credit
craggy dagger
this is what i had but i feel like i can switch somethings around
shadow wind
😔
shadow wind
this is what i had but i feel like i can switch somethings around
https://poke...
Dual wingbeat is a bit strange
left bobcat
this is what i had but i feel like i can switch somethings around
https://poke...
Wing beat is odd
shadow wind
Especially when he has regenerator
left bobcat
Just use brave bird
shadow wind
That Koraidon set is cool though
craggy dagger
it was mostly sash shenanigans
but i think bb would be better
and
no
don’t ask about the chien pao
shadow wind
We have very similar Val sets
craggy dagger
i have no clue why i chose that
i’m gonna change that
craggy dagger
I just have taunt over encore
the valiant set is just
the Yuta valiant
shadow wind
To punish those CSR sets with Astral, Psychic, and Plot
craggy dagger
the moves just work really well imo
shadow wind
For sure
shadow wind
I'm lacking protect on my team so encore doesn't really help me a whole lot
craggy dagger
To punish those CSR sets with Astral, Psychic, and Plot
tera ghost baits out barrage for some reason
solid frigate
damn i just learnt HK’s SWSH meta is kinda bizzare
shadow wind
Like obviously it would help but I like taunt for right now
Maybe encore would be better though
solid frigate
Solgaleo Kyogre with Zard???
craggy dagger
encore is fun cuz you can mess with protect shenanigans on the opposing team
left bobcat
Well Gen 8 was weird from what I’ve heard
solid frigate
encore is fun cuz you can mess with protect shenanigans on the opposing team
Creph is gonna have PTSD when see the move
shadow wind
Yeah I'll have to experiment
I've also thought about moonblast instead of spirit break
left bobcat
encore is fun cuz you can mess with protect shenanigans on the opposing team
Fake out/protect
solid frigate
Well Gen 8 was weird from what I’ve heard
i am learning from HK’s Meta is really bizzare
shadow wind
Just for Shifu but Bolt should be good enough
craggy dagger
Fake out/protect
le tera ghost
and you can encore them into protect unless it’s booster flutter or smth
shadow wind
Life dew is also interesting
left bobcat
le tera ghost
and you can encore them into protect unless it’s booster flutter o...
Ik
solid frigate
le tera ghost
and you can encore them into protect unless it’s booster flutter o...
le ghost
craggy dagger
Life dew is also interesting
top 8 reg G wave 1 team featured ho oh iirc
left bobcat
The easiest way to just scare off rilla is just encore it
cyan smelt
are you kidding my opponent got a double protect
left bobcat
Life dew is also interesting
On sum Clefairy type shit
shadow wind
On god
Both my restricteds are 252 adamant
Can't be bothered with making real sets
Also ho oh having 174 spdef raw is wild
Straight up built in AV
left bobcat
Still debating on using the bird
shadow wind
Like his spdef is higher than Groudon's with an AV
left bobcat
I’ve seen some bizarre stuff
Shadow rider and giratina
Giratina and Lunala
I’ve been seeing a lot of giratina for some reason
shadow wind
Isn't it crazy how 90 for a defense stat is considered low for a restricted
left bobcat
Isn't it crazy how 90 for a defense stat is considered low for a restricted
Well now that you mention it yeah
The minimum should be like at least 100-110
shadow wind
Like Groudon has 90 spdef and you have to work around it
left bobcat
AT minimum
shadow wind
Ho oh has 90 defense and you gotta work around it
left bobcat
Wait it DOES?
lost sun
ye
shadow wind
Yea
left bobcat
I’ve been deceived
shadow wind
Like 107 health though
lost sun
and like 150 spdf
shadow wind
154
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Sableye version 4.28.1
lost sun
fr
molten oasis
Is ho-oh working?
lost sun
110 wasted stats
left bobcat
Should’ve cut 10 points from its special attack to its defense
shadow wind
Is ho-oh working?
For me yeah
left bobcat
Or just 20 points
shadow wind
No clue about anyone else
lost sun
not tried it
left bobcat
I’ve seen some
lost sun
been using kyogaidon
shadow wind
I don't think I've seen any
left bobcat
I lost to 1 but I played really bad
lost sun
seeing a lot of zama csr
shadow wind
Yeah
left bobcat
seeing a lot of zama csr
And you got the other half that mixes them up
lost sun
changed my kyogres water spout to thunder so I can hit zama for neutral without a spread move
left bobcat
I’d see Koraidon and shadow rider and zama and lunala
shadow wind
Bo3 is the exact same
left bobcat
I advised the player even before I won that zama works better with shadow rider and Lunala works better with Koraidon
I’ve even seen shadow rider and Lunala both together
shadow wind
lost sun
imagine losing both Ur res to a snarl
lost sun
not really a fan of farig on this team should I swap it for smth
cyan smelt
let's go i'm 4-1
shadow wind
Pretty much
cyan smelt
i got paired with someone 1207 while i was still like 1000s what gives
shadow wind
Congested ladder
cyan smelt
lunala mirai seems strong
shadow wind
Sometimes you get good pairings
This looks so cancer
I just realized when I'm not playing I should be watching games
I just saw lorb Kyogre
Wild calcs
Also for Ditto is there any set tera type that's the best?
solid frigate
bro is Tang Guy
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/dc9465ebf2748895 cuz this could lowkey work now, what sun restricted and any other suggestions?
solid frigate
not really a fan of farig on this team should I swap it for smth
thats even worse than what i am doing-
shadow wind
https://pokepast.es/dc9465ebf2748895 cuz this could lowkey work now, what sun re...
Groudon
cyan smelt
5-1 now
shadow wind
Ayo?
astral kelp
x4 weakness is ouchie
shadow wind
Wait the whole set is cooked
astral kelp
wtf
solid frigate
HUH-
astral kelp
they might be investing in spa
WAIT
normal non crowned tera fire covert cloak what the fuck
solid frigate
You realise you are talking to the guy who uses Groudon like 24/7
shadow wind
John Groudon
solid frigate
John Groudon
No johns
astral kelp
i feel like this team has potential but it feels so shit rn
the best part of it is weirdly enough oranguru
cyan smelt
god groudon is tanky it can take a x2 body press from archaludon
solid frigate
god groudon is tanky it can take a x2 body press from archaludon
- how much
astral kelp
god groudon is tanky it can take a x2 body press from archaludon
be weird if he couldnt tbh
cyan smelt
will post replay in a second
solid frigate
ngl i almost wanna put archaludon in my team but ik it defeats the purpose or AV Ogre
molten oasis
And also Groudon doesn't need to tera as bad
Yea but Zac legit like never needs Tera
Koraidon needing tera is perfectly fine
cyan smelt
cyan smelt
i'm addicted to bo3
lost sun
thats even worse than what i am doing-
what's wrong with it
lost sun
oranguru is the only 1
astral kelp
no i mean
shadow wind
Smeargle 🤓
left bobcat
How low
astral kelp
instruct partner lmfao
lost sun
Smeargle 🤓
oh yh
solid frigate
what's wrong with it
Ogerpon feels worthless there and i dont see any value of Thunder from Kyogre when Miraidon exists
astral kelp
miraidon is pretty goood
shadow wind
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regibo3-2334885138-0bd9uh111dmljxe...
W game
solid frigate
also wtf is that Ogerpon spread
shadow wind
Also I changed iron head to crunch on mine
cyan smelt
cronch for lunala and csr?
shadow wind
So if you feel like you aren't clicking iron head much
cyan smelt
i'm not
shadow wind
cronch for lunala and csr?
Yuh yuh
solid frigate
cronch for lunala and csr?
cronch
shadow wind
Cronch
lost sun
cronch
shadow wind
He bited the horse
lost sun
also wtf is that Ogerpon spread
I forgot to change it to a normal 1
cyan smelt
also rising voltage bolt seems funny af
lost sun
Ogerpon feels worthless there and i dont see any value of Thunder from Kyogre wh...
wanted a strong single target move for zacian and zenta
hydro pump misses more than pulse so figured may aswell use thunder
shadow wind
Well isn't that funny
molten oasis
People at the age of 18 without a drivers license be like
solid frigate
wanted a strong single target move for zacian and zenta
Miraidon-
You have TW WHIMS + MIRAIDON
solid frigate
People at the age of 18 without a drivers license be like
ahem
shadow wind
People at the age of 18 without a drivers license be like
How I feel using Groudon
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
molten oasis
Damn
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
molten oasis
Hm
lost sun
Miraidon-
You have TW WHIMS + MIRAIDON
what else am I meant to use I'm facing so much zentas that I can barely use spout and even when I can spout kyogres been hit so pulse does more
shadow wind
Pretty goated eh
astral kelp
what does thunderous t do
shadow wind
shadow wind
what does thunderous t do
Hit hard then die
astral kelp
sounds good to me
solid frigate
what else am I meant to use I'm facing so much zentas that I can barely use spou...
Lando?
cyan smelt
isn't it eerie impulse support
astral kelp
this is just miraidon with extra steps
solid frigate
Miraidon Kyogre,Whims/Moon,Urshfiu,Farigiraf and Landours
molten oasis
How’s groudons mu into zama @shadow wind
solid frigate
like this is my comp and my Zama problems are like very little
shadow wind
This is cinema
shadow wind
How’s groudons mu into zama <@638505796476469249>
ID Zama is impossible
latent leaf
Miss hax go
shadow wind
It comes down to the better player
cyan smelt
i have lunala for zamazenta
molten oasis
ID Zama is impossible
So let’s say no ID
cyan smelt
and ogerpon
shadow wind
No ID?
molten oasis
no iron defense
shadow wind
It's hard for Groudon
rustic mountain
nasty plot csr can be so dirty sometimes lol
lost sun
like this is my comp and my Zama problems are like very little
not really a problem just stops me from using spread moves on ogre
solid frigate
It's hard for Groudon
oh yeah you miss shit with Precimiss
molten oasis
So, wouldn’t koraidon be better then?
solid frigate
not really a problem just stops me from using spread moves on ogre
I just let Lando or Urshifu do their thing
cyan smelt
jameson murray, i've seen that name on ladder before
shadow wind
solid frigate
bro knows
rustic mountain
wholesome
molten oasis
Hm
molten oasis
wholesome
Tree for this https://pokepast.es/dc9465ebf2748895 groudon or koraidon?
shadow wind
jameson murray, i've seen that name on ladder before
I don't think I have
rustic mountain
Tree for this https://pokepast.es/dc9465ebf2748895 groudon or koraidon?
try both im not sure prolly groudon so u dont double dragon
molten oasis
The core is lowkey really funny but also, did some testing with it it’s not bad, just lowkey needed a real sun setter
Manual sun is nice but having a sun restricted I think would benefit a lot
astral kelp
someone stop me
molten oasis
Oo, could go howl Zac+clam groudon
shadow wind
Wait that's a sick idea
shadow wind
Cause Scream tail doesn't have a 150 base attack
astral kelp
whos clam?
shadow wind
Clear amulet
cyan smelt
i'm thinking maybe i should go heal pulse on indeedee instead of helping hand for lunala
cyan smelt
ho-oh is based
cyan smelt
ho oh is good against the dogs
lost sun
Why am I seeing more Ape
what ape
astral kelp
thunderous and my evs
astral kelp
tho thunderous could be good in this comp
molten oasis
Hyper beam
You got a groudon spread I can use?
left bobcat
I beg your pardon?
lost sun
The annihilating kind
should make that a Pokémon
shadow wind
You got a groudon spread I can use?
What's the criteria
left bobcat
Eh fuck It just go for 252 adamant etc etc etc
shadow wind
Groudon @ Clear Amulet
Ability: Drought
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 156 Atk / 4 Def / 84 SpD / 12 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Precipice Blades
- High Horsepower
- Heat Crash
- Protect
molten oasis
Eat, uh, glacial lance maybe
left bobcat
Yeah Tera fire
shadow wind
252+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Glacial Lance vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Groudon: 152-180 (73.4 - 86.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
molten oasis
Cool
shadow wind
Outspeeds CSR in TW
The usual
156+ Atk Tera Fire Groudon Heat Crash (120 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Shadow in Sun: 213-252 (121 - 143.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Could swap High horse for tpunch
cyan smelt
Sash mons sure are annoying, I need more spread moves
shadow wind
Depends on the MUs
shadow wind
Sash mons sure are annoying, I need more spread moves
Or sacred fire
50% of the time it kills sashes
astral kelp
i really wanna use chien pao
cyan smelt
I'm gonna see how I go with my current team and if lunala sucks I'll use ho oh
astral kelp
i just cant find a nice place to put him
shadow wind
Ho oh gaming !
cyan smelt
I like tera fairy Lunala because it kills dragons
astral kelp
precipice blades L
astral kelp
hydraple + groudon when
lost sun
precimiss blades and always missing pulse the best moves itg
lost sun
not when kyogre misses
astral kelp
youre so rioght conner
molten oasis
Hm
lost sun
why is wide lens so useless
molten oasis
I also think single strike could be cool
shadow wind
Cause I know I'm stuck with Groudon either way so why blame him
lost sun
who wants 10% more accuracy
shadow wind
I also think single strike could be cool
Single strike is great
shadow wind
who wants 10% more accuracy
Tsareena
molten oasis
astral kelp
who wants 10% more accuracy
a lot of people actually
shadow wind
https://pokepast.es/40be7c5c3348d12f
Looks dope
astral kelp
i like it
molten oasis
Cool
shadow wind
Tera water tera blast Groudon
cyan smelt
Nasty plot incin
shadow wind
Who would ever come up with such a brilliant idea
left bobcat
https://pokepast.es/40be7c5c3348d12f
GASP I saw a primal Groudon hallucination
IM SEEING STARS
cyan smelt
Heal pulse Indeedee next to lunala sounds good ngl
molten oasis
lol
molten oasis
That’s crazy lmfao https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2334909924
cyan smelt
Psyspam with instruct oranguru and final gambit ape
left bobcat
That’s a lot of psychic types
shadow wind
Wait that guy
shadow wind
That’s crazy lmfao https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2334909924
He was using Groudon
Serves them right
cyan smelt
Last resort Eevee was funny
astral kelp
looks like something i would make
shadow wind
Reminds me of a certain mother
I just witnessed an Urshifu survive a lorb Astral barrage
cyan smelt
Lorb astral barrage sounds scary
shadow wind
I'd rather lorb than sash
astral kelp
but i hate psychic types
molten oasis
shadow wind
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2334911155-8hlocn5ywo6akms4ku...
That guy think he me or something
astral kelp
@shadow wind have you tried this before?
shadow wind
I think in early Reg G 2024 yeah
cyan smelt
Hydrapple is literally rng the pokemon
shadow wind
CIR food though
I have a document with every single team I've ever made so I'll have a look
💀
Apparently I didn't
cyan smelt
Bro's out here writing novels about the teams he's made
shadow wind
Only time I've used Hydrapple was Reg H with Torkoal
Nah it's literally imports of all my teams
cyan smelt
Is that in case showdown wipes your teams
shadow wind
Nah it's cause showdown was slowing down
lost sun
y not just take a ss
cyan smelt
Too many teams
shadow wind
y not just take a ss
I want to know the moves and the sets
lost sun
but u can see those in the ss
shadow wind
I had like 250 teams
lost sun
250 ss
lost sun
And showdown has an easy export button
does that export them all at the same time
shadow wind
Yup
shadow wind
If you go to the bottom of the team builder you can click a backup button and it'll put all your teams into text and it'll all be highlighted
Maya has like 900 teams I swear
lost sun
900 teams for what 💀
shadow wind
I mean I started in Reg F and have like 300
Imagine if someone played back from Gen 5
lost sun
why not just delete the ones u don't use
lost sun
1968 teams
shadow wind
why not just delete the ones u don't use
So I can look back and see what I did
lost sun
So I can look back and see what I did
same gen I get but not from previous gens
shadow wind
Erik just killed some guy
lost sun
rip some guy
shadow wind
Got shafted by CIR's glacial lance
I swear Bo1 is brainrot
I don't think I'll ever go back to Bo1
molten oasis
wtf
cyan smelt
Is necrozma good
shadow wind
No
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
cyan smelt
At least it's not dawn wings
shadow wind
That thing at least has meteor beam
lost sun
And typing
cus it's weak to csr and lunala?
cyan smelt
And koraidon
lost sun
eh only fire moves
cyan smelt
And gets destroyed by miraidon
shadow wind
cus it's weak to csr and lunala?
Incineroar
cyan smelt
Any strong neutral hit kills it
lost sun
does a 252+spa specs dragon pulse miraidon 1 shot lando
shadow wind
In eterrain probably yeah
cyan smelt
Oh it's also weak to landorus
lost sun
and groudon
cyan smelt
Were you spectating random games
shadow wind
I do a lot yeah
cyan smelt
Me too
shadow wind
I see you occasionally
cyan smelt
I feel like popping into a good elo game and saying the meta is solved lol
shadow wind
Yeah just tell em to quit now and play Zama CSR
cyan smelt
Spread the word lol
lost sun
pop into a game give them bad advice and see if they listen
then when they lose tell them to think for themselves next time
molten oasis
Man, I lost to a Ndw team because of fucking earthquake
shadow wind
Ndw?
cyan smelt
Dawn wings
shadow wind
Ahh
lost sun
what team is cress usually in
shadow wind
Ursaluna
lost sun
would it fit this team instead of farig
shadow wind
Why what's wrong with Farig?
dense latch
Erik just killed some guy
they went down gracefully
lost sun
Why what's wrong with Farig?
rarely use it
shadow wind
Could just go Ogerpon
lost sun
no TR support other than hands
shadow wind
Do you need TR support?
lost sun
cress would give me more speed control against tw heal up and change miraidon to levitate
lost sun
rock pon?
shadow wind
Either that or water pon
molten oasis
This sucks
shadow wind
What does?
molten oasis
The team
Losing to Mirai dusk mane, CIR NDW
Grimmsnarl is lowkey pissing me off
Like I can’t do shit
shadow wind
Yeah I hate that dude too
lost sun
You have Ogre
oger 2 shots and so does miraidon tho
molten oasis
Shifu’s also struggling
cyan smelt
How about howl gouging fire
lost sun
but mirai gives a 93% chance to 1 shot
and if I use cress I could terra elec mirai and swap it to levitate
cyan smelt
Sounds gimmicky and gets shut down by taunt
molten oasis
I hate Grimmsnarl
shadow wind
Twave spam?
shadow wind
Nah don't be sorry
cyan smelt
Time to ladder some more on bo3
cyan smelt
I have my replays saved in pasrs
left bobcat
WE BROKE RULES
cyan smelt
Yes a web app that you can download
shadow wind
Oh wait
left bobcat
Not in browser
Bowser
shadow wind
Do /Invite GG=Groudon Gaming
cyan smelt
Might take this team to Melbourne if it does well
cyan smelt
Haven't hopped on yet
shadow wind
👍
molten oasis
Groudon is an acquired taste
I agree
chrome knot
ok i kinda love this format
this format fucking blows lmao
molten oasis
This Mon fucking sucks lol
lost sun
Sounds gimmicky and gets shut down by taunt
mental herb
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/3e6ec68eb090029a Conner if you want it, here.im gonna test koraidon
shadow wind
https://pokepast.es/3e6ec68eb090029a Conner if you want it, here.im gonna test k...
Thanks but I have a strict no Tornadus policy
dense latch
buddy this isn't 2022 part 2
astral kelp
i respec it
molten oasis
Thanks but I have a strict no Tornadus policy
Could go whimsi then
lost sun
prankster tw is goated
astral kelp
alright time to actually build hydraple groudon
conner whats your current groudon set for trick room?
shadow wind
Uh
astral kelp
atcually tailroom
molten oasis
I usually stay away from prankster TW
Flutters fine here
cyan smelt
lunala miraidon with electric seed seems to be a thing now
shadow wind
AV or Clam?
shadow wind
lunala miraidon with electric seed seems to be a thing now
Yeah I was seeing that bunch
astral kelp
AV or Clam?
hmm prolly clam since its a slower team
shadow wind
Groudon @ Clear Amulet
Ability: Drought
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 HP / 156 Atk / 4 Def / 84 SpD / 12 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Precipice Blades
- High Horsepower
- Heat Crash
- Protect
gentle crag
shadow wind
Prankster works out of the sun
astral kelp
yeah i dont get why people love jumpluff so muchh
shadow wind
Sleep powder
shadow wind
Do you now have 2 mons quad weak to ice and Groudon?
cyan smelt
lmao there's a guy called 4 legs don't care who's using only 4 legged pokemon
astral kelp
i HATE ice types fr
cyan smelt
imprison zama is gonna be annoying i can tell
astral kelp
running 2 grass tyoes in a sun team oml
astral kelp
imprison zama is gonna be annoying i can tell
yeah imprision zama with csr seems kinda crazy
shadow wind
imprison zama is gonna be annoying i can tell
Not when I don't run Zama !
cyan smelt
yeah but i run wide guard on lunala
shadow wind
Ah yeah
astral kelp
i should just run tornados
cyan smelt
stacking up the ice weaknesses there
lost sun
may aswell make all 6 weak to ice
astral kelp
chien pao doesnt exist it cant hurt me
lost sun
fr
cyan smelt
uh, caly-ice
lost sun
just bring urshifu terra grass
astral kelp
also doesnt exist so he cant hurt me :D
astral kelp
just bring urshifu terra grass
based
lost sun
just bring urshifu terra grass
for chien
rustic mountain
lost sun
grass to make it weak to ice ofc
molten oasis
Yea yk what this sucks
Everyone just gets speed advantage on me somehow and the just, I lose cuz they saved their Tera
Fake out is also infuriating
shadow wind
You still using Groudon or switched to Koraidon?\
balmy glen
chat the team fell off
astral kelp
god this seems awful
balmy glen
its back to 100% acc csr
shadow wind
What were you using?
astral kelp
why is this dogshit garbage feeling good
cyan smelt
this team lowkey slaps, 6-1 now
astral kelp
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2334955117
kyogre slower than cir is crazy
cyan smelt
CIR food
astral kelp
only cuz i keep forgetting i have a tera button
the fact that this did like no fucking damage is so dissapointing
i need to outspeed scarf kyogre
or i can just use a good pokemon
im saying a lot more raichu and pickachu
rustic mountain
astral kelp
252+ SpA Thundurus-Therian Wildbolt Storm vs. 132 HP / 12 SpD Kyogre: 114-134 (59.3 - 69.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
jeez other than like miraidon is there anything that can pop kyogre
cyan smelt
rilla, bolt
astral kelp
252+ SpA Raging Bolt Thunderbolt vs. 132 HP / 12 SpD Kyogre: 132-156 (68.7 - 81.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO its a bit better
maybe i should just check for scarf ogre
cyan smelt
bolt doesn't insta die to water moves
rustic mountain
also its sp bulk is very good
rustic mountain
not really many things r gna b hitting it for a 1hko u gta slow play most times and either nullify its damage w/ wide guard or sun, outpace and double tap or utlilize resists to either chip it down or force it to tera
astral kelp
252 Atk Rillaboom Wood Hammer vs. 132 HP / 140 Def Kyogre in Grassy Terrain: 242-288 (126 - 150%) -- guaranteed OHKO
what a beast
rustic mountain
yea rillas goated
astral kelp
i need to outspeed scarf ogre tho
rustic mountain
or just ways of dealing with scarf
cyan smelt
i've seen this team a few times, lunala, miraidon, ursaluna, hands, ogerpon and urshifu
rustic mountain
i jus faced a variation of that
cyan smelt
with lando
rustic mountain
its quite strong
cyan smelt
for sure
rustic mountain
didnt have any practice vs it really so i think next go around i can give it a fair shake
astral kelp
oooh what about pawmot
rustic mountain
mid
cyan smelt
i'm not sure how to play against it
astral kelp
252+ Atk Pawmot Double Shock vs. 132 HP / 140 Def Kyogre: 194-230 (101 - 119.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
thats hilarious
cyan smelt
dies to everything else
rustic mountain
i'm not sure how to play against it
idk wat duo ur using but for me, im trynna make it so i can either get the lunala out of position or ko it so i dont get walled by wide guard for csr
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
rustic mountain
im thinkin of dropping zama for the mu, its threatened by mirai and lando a bunch
cyan smelt
i'm using groudon lunala
rustic mountain
same way i just dropped csr vs a lunala zama and a zama pagos
some mus 1 of ur restricted might just be dog shit
astral kelp
252+ SpA Scovillain Leaf Storm vs. 132 HP / 12 SpD Kyogre: 162-192 (84.3 - 100%) -- 6.25% chance to OHKO its close
astral kelp
i'm using groudon lunala
me too :D
rustic mountain
i'm using groudon lunala
the miraidon part should be easy tbh w/ groudon
natural immunity to its best stuff
for lunala vs lunala idk its weird, really depends ur other team members and theirs
astral kelp
252 Atk Ogerpon-Cornerstone Power Whip (1.2x Mask Boost) vs. 132 HP / 140 Def Kyogre: 218-260 (113.5 - 135.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO ig ogre is good
cyan smelt
i'm just worried about the ursaluna mainly because i run tailroom with indeedee and roaring moon
rustic mountain
variant i saw had lando over ursa
cyan smelt
even scarier
astral kelp
doesnt outspeed tho fuck me
cyan smelt
lando the real mvp of gen 9
rustic mountain
is it?
cyan smelt
lando, urshifu and rilla
rustic mountain
nah incin urshi rilla
cyan smelt
true
rustic mountain
lando def 1 of the best comp mons ever tho
cyan smelt
imprison zama is funny af
astral kelp
i just reallyhate running thunder clap and indeedee in the same team it feels so wrong
cyan smelt
terrain runs out and can be overwritten too
astral kelp
yeah i knoww
molten oasis
kinda bummed the wake concept failed
its also really bad into tr, however i really like single strike
turbid ruin
hey does anyone want to join my esports team
astral kelp
YOWTCH
cyan smelt
What's your team
rustic mountain
its also really bad into tr, however i really like single strike
yea ive been digging single strike
astral kelp
my team is finally feeling good
vocal plume
i just reallyhate running thunder clap and indeedee in the same team it feels so...
Would you recommend having both Indeedee and Lunala in?
Or at least both with TR
astral kelp
Would you recommend having both Indeedee and Lunala in?
follow me trick room is a hell of a drug
cyan smelt
Indeedee redirects for lunala, otherwise lunala takes hits and you want to keep shadow shield as long as possible
rustic mountain
generally u want wg on lunala atm so its hard to fit tr on it as a move
vocal plume
follow me trick room is a hell of a drug
I was gonna run the exact same set as you for indeedee and the thought otherwise
cyan smelt
You can run heal pulse on Indeedee to heal any damage lunala takes
vocal plume
generally u want wg on lunala atm so its hard to fit tr on it as a move
What I was going to was have indeedee with tr and follow me and then give it protect instead of helping hand. Only issue is that works for like the first 2 turns and that's it
This includes giving Lunala wg as well
I just need two more mons
Was considering Hydrapple and Kingambit
Or I could bring Torn and someone else
lofty tartan
Hydrapple is just so bad
vocal plume
Hydrapple is just so bad
That's a shame cause although it's different to comp, Flapple has carried me through so many raids in the last two gens
lofty tartan
Yeah raids and vgc are not even remotely similar. You can raid with just about anything.
molten oasis
i wish hydrapple was good
vocal plume
Guess I'm getting back to thinking
molten oasis
its just not, that typing sucks
vocal plume
I'll probs run a Tailwind team on the side so I can mix and match
molten oasis
lunala zac seems a lot better than i thought, wide guard is really nice for it
vocal plume
Then I'm taking a break and going to the gym cause I've been tweaking with this team for probably 2 hours
lofty tartan
Already did my workout earlier. 
cyan smelt
I feel like I hardly bring lunala and Groudon together
It's because I usually want tr or tailwind
vocal plume
I think I've also come to the decision that Terapagos Lunala just won't work
cyan smelt
Terapagos zacian is good
vocal plume
Terapagos zacian is good
I don't got Zacian
I'm working with limited resources here lol
cyan smelt
Terapagos is an awkward mon to use
lofty tartan
I don't got Zacian
I probably have an extra non shiny you can have. Can't have my event shinies
I'm at work right now though so it'll be a few hours
vocal plume
I probably have an extra non shiny you can have. Can't have my event shinies
Don't worry about it
lofty tartan
Eh suit yourself 🤷
vocal plume
I'll probably find a pairing somewhere
lofty tartan
I'm never gonna use the non shiny anyway lol
vocal plume
It just feels cheap being gifted legendaries yk
Even if they are good ones
I could try Lunala Zama
lofty tartan
How is it cheap being given one? It's a consolation prize for finishing Sword lol. It's literally a guarantee
vocal plume
How is it cheap being given one? It's a consolation prize for finishing Sword lo...
I never played Sword 🤷♂️
lofty tartan
So like it's gonna happen either after an arbitrary task or just stumbling onto one
vocal plume
I might find one in the Shield DLC tho tbf
lofty tartan
You won't
cyan smelt
It's not in shield
vocal plume
🤦♂️
cyan smelt
Box legendary means you get em as part of the story
vocal plume
And buying a whole 50 dollar game for a single poke is silly
Tbf the other legendaries are in there as well with the DLC but ain't no way I'm spending £90 for a few different legendaries
lofty tartan
Yeah there's a few exclusive Dynamax Adventure legendaries but you can just get someone to share a path with you for those
vocal plume
That's not too bad then
rustic mountain
This includes giving Lunala wg as well
yea usually u want 3 atks tho nd then either go tr or wg, ive seen a few that go 2 atks but those are easily the least threatening imo
cyan smelt
I'm thinking about replacing wide guard on lunala with tr because having tr only on Indeedee feels not great
Prone to non prankster taunt
vocal plume
Yeah there's a few exclusive Dynamax Adventure legendaries but you can just get ...
Coming back to that Zacian thing then, I might take you up on that offer after all if you are still down for it.
cyan smelt
Better than playing through the shield DLC to find out you can't get it lol
molten oasis
yea usually u want 3 atks tho nd then either go tr or wg, ive seen a few that go...
getting walled by dark types after meteor beam goes off sucks
i think moonblast is really nice
rustic mountain
atleast u have the threat of meteor beam tho or yea just go moonblast
ive seen a lot of tera fairy lunala
cyan smelt
+1 moonblast hurts
vocal plume
Better than playing through the shield DLC to find out you can't get it lol
Tbf I was going to play through it again cause I'm pretty sure I was missing a couple of legendaries. Not to mention my Urshifu R-S and Caly-Shadow are stuck there
rustic mountain
just transfer them thru home
vocal plume
just transfer them thru home
My urshifu is stuck in my Shield party and my Caly-Shadow is merged so you can't transfer it
molten oasis
ive seen a lot of tera fairy lunala
i think that or water are its best tera/s
vocal plume
You have to transfer Caly and Spectrier separately
rustic mountain
unfuse them then put them thru home?
vocal plume
unfuse them then put them thru home?
Yep
vocal plume
I needed to get Shield again
rustic mountain
oh u jus dont have the game
i think its cartridge based if u dont have the cart u had it on originally those guys are gone
vocal plume
i think its cartridge based if u dont have the cart u had it on originally those...
Not if you have the game archived on your Switch
rustic mountain
theres no cloud storage for pokemon
cyan smelt
The save data is stored on the switch though
pine lotus
howdy yall
cyan smelt
But yeah you need the cartridge to transfer stuff through home I think
rustic mountain
the memory is cartridge based for pokemon games 🤨 if u lose ur cartridge ur save is gone idt any backup does anything
pine lotus
saved data is all on the switch
cyan smelt
I lost my violet cartridge and bought the sv DLC pack and it was still there
pine lotus
yee
rustic mountain
u used a diff cart and still had everything?
cyan smelt
Yes
vocal plume
The save data is stored on the switch though
This is my point. I've bought Scarlet before, played through the game, traded it back in, got a different copy and all my stuff was the same
It doesn't change a thing