it makes my zamazenta useless its so funny
#competitive_discussion
shadow wind
I actually don’t
cyan smelt
imprison is a wasted moveslot
lofty tartan
Or you see it in OTS and taunt it or don't bring Zamazenta or or or
Imprison, I have used, in niche circumstances
cyan smelt
most of the time
shadow wind
Unless it’s imprison trickroom
lofty tartan
But only for very specific matchups
shadow wind
Imprison trickroom is the only consistent use for imprison
cyan smelt
imprison tr is good
shadow wind
Unless you’re Gen 8 Zacian
astral kelp
@shadow wind do you have an av groudon set?
shadow wind
I’m using AV Groudon right now yeah
cyan smelt
maybe i should switch to av groudon and lorb bolt
shadow wind
I’m using goggles bolt
cyan smelt
what's your 4th move on groudon
chrome knot
for the stuff ive shared alr, i think being silly is getting farther than acc trying to build lmao
shadow wind
Wowza
chrome knot
idk this reg is weird to find a groove in so far
but not rly but also something feels off
shadow wind
I found my groove immediately but I could totally see why finding it could be hard
I’ve had dreams of Groudon Lunala
It just feels right
summer shore
Awake and thriving
bold geode
Awake and thriving
Nice
chrome knot
ohmahgah
cyan smelt
does ray rizzo still play or is he retired?
shadow wind
Miraidon food
shadow wind
does ray rizzo still play or is he retired?
I wanna say he’s retired
chrome knot
cyan smelt
maybe there's some trick there that i'm not seeing
cyan smelt
maybe it's tera ground eq gyarados
astral kelp
also what evs?
shadow wind
why not heavy slam?
Cause Tera fairy CIR is heavy
Iron head is literally double damage
shadow wind
I mean my first game with AV I had protect as my 4th move 😭😭
cyan smelt
should i still run tclap on bolt even though i have psychic terrain
shadow wind
That’s a very hard question
chrome knot
i would
there is literally 3 terrains goin around rn that are all common asf
you'll find openings and opportunities to tclap
and find great value w/ it
shadow wind
wb evs?
I just ran 252 HP like 80 some spdef evs and enough speed to outspeed CSR when you’re in TW(I don’t even have TW) and the rest in attack
chrome knot
I found my groove immediately but I could totally see why finding it could be ha...
like it looks cute on paper but I am literally drooling and clicking buttons 😭
astral kelp
I just ran 252 HP like 80 some spdef evs and enough speed to outspeed CSR when y...
lol
chrome knot
I just played a game where my wincon was "on god this kills"
shadow wind
I legit feel lobotomized when I climb late at night
chrome knot
bc I jus had no idea LMFAO
shadow wind
I just played a game where my wincon was "on god this kills"
Goat behaviour
I went 11-1 pretty much just clicking buttons
chrome knot
if adjusted this team so muchn that its just arubega lmao
shadow wind
A couple extremely hard reads but other than that it’s just standard clicks
chrome knot
cyan smelt
i have fun clicking precipice blades
chrome knot
something is prob wrong here but, its aight for day1
astral kelp
lets try something like this
shadow wind
tiny karmaBOT
astral kelp
LOOOOOOOOOOL
shadow wind
Ok that's funny how it works
astral kelp
avarage groudon main
shadow wind
The more protects the better
astral kelp
wait this move is crazy
next stump
was a sick move in SWSH
cyan smelt
eleki used to get it
shadow wind
Regieleki my goat
astral kelp
what if i use discharge instead of thunderbolt
next stump
you’re losing damage
astral kelp
lol wtf why 70%
shadow wind
To fill in the 30%ers
astral kelp
im just gonna yoink your bolt set
shadow wind
By all means
I literally clicked the “suggested EV spread” button
I didn’t spend a very long time on this team
shadow wind
I don’t think so
knotty geyser
Really
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
shadow wind
Go look for yourself
astral kelp
I literally clicked the “suggested EV spread” button
💀
shadow wind
Hey man
knotty geyser
And this move set deals with so much set up mons and ez pop on focus ash, so no more endures
shadow wind
They know what I need
knotty geyser
Is it worth running rest/sleep if I drop Eq?
shadow wind
I’m a professional, you gotta trust me
knotty geyser
Ruination is free 50% hp cut but ik i can't kill other wise
astral kelp
oh what the hell
shadow wind
Yes
astral kelp
do i go for double protect or hope to live
knotty geyser
Rest
Sleep talk
Stealth rock
Do I drop eq/ whirlwind, for more survivability, but with no utility to kill
Or keep
Eq
Ww
Stealth
Ruin?
shadow wind
Second set
shadow wind
do i go for double protect or hope to live
Koraidon + Groudon seems bad
astral kelp
holy hell
twin kindle
Is it worth running rest/sleep if I drop Eq?
the meta is way too offensive for stall
astral kelp
Koraidon + Groudon seems bad
its just cuz this team heavily relies on sun
spiral ridge
There was a rest sleep talk dozogiri at stockholm
shadow wind
the meta is way too offensive for stall
They’re playing singles
chrome knot
the meta is way too offensive for stall
i just lost to cm miraidon/oranguru
manic bear
Aight sorry yall but I was told to go here|| 
||
astral kelp
wait does any restricted have intimidate immunity naturally
shadow wind
Solgaleo
twin kindle
Aight sorry yall but I was told to go here|| <:LETSFUCKINGPISS:10335181938950349...
ah, the youth and their gullible nature
untold urchin
<@468575028418707466> come collect ur child
YOUR CHANNEL IS A RESTROOM AND MAYO IS ALLOWED TO USE IT
Hi Luna
chrome knot
manic bear
chrome knot
go use shiny hunters chat or something
Hi there kimchiii
manic bear
go use shiny hunters chat or something
Wtf 
shadow wind
New reg just dropped we don’t have time for such antics
chrome knot
we got lotsa time tbh
shadow wind
we got lotsa time tbh
Not if we wanna hit #1 on ladder !
chrome knot
i dont i wanna wait till tmrw morning till i can bug rishi abt teams lmao
spiral ridge
You’re never gonna fuckint believe this
shadow wind
i dont i wanna wait till tmrw morning till i can bug rishi abt teams lmao
Who is that?
astral kelp
chrome knot
Who is that?
fren who frequents top of bo3 ladder
spiral ridge
Oh damn
spiral ridge
I DIDNT WANNA ASSUME
WHY WOULDNT YOU I FUCKING LOVE ALMA
shadow wind
fren who frequents top of bo3 ladder<a:FukingDies:694380769615020132>
Fair enough then
chrome knot
looking stupid is the fun part
spiral ridge
untold urchin
WHY WOULDNT YOU I FUCKING LOVE ALMA
BECAUSE ASSUMPTIONS LEAD ME DOWN A PATH I DO NOT WISH TO TAKE
spiral ridge
I WOULDA JUST SAID NO DUMBASS ITS ___
untold urchin
I WOULDA JUST SAID NO DUMBASS ITS ___
thats the path I dont wanna take
spiral ridge
Why 😭
untold urchin
You already trust google more than me I dont want you now thinking Im stupid too
chrome knot
the girls are fighting
spiral ridge
the girls are fighting
Singular
spiral ridge
You already trust google more than me I dont want you now thinking Im stupid too...
That was a joke wtf was that not obvious 😭
chrome knot
@untold urchin @spiral ridge pick 1 restricted i needa build something dumb to pass time
both of u pick 1 :3
untold urchin
Eternatus
spiral ridge
<@468575028418707466> <@725406472464498719> pick 1 restricted i needa build some...
Fuck uhhh
Is it dialga that can OHKO CIR with funnies
chrome knot
dude
spiral ridge
Did you want meta restricted
chrome knot
what on planet fucking earth
spiral ridge
I thought you wanted silly 😭
chrome knot
eternatus & dialga
shadow wind
Sludge wave spam
dapper crag
So does anyone have predictions for what restricted duos will carry the leaderboards
spiral ridge
If you want actual shit then zama ig
dapper crag
Miraidon ho-oh for me
untold urchin
Maam you’re asking someone who doesnt play vgc and just chooses the first cool Pokemon that comes to mind
spiral ridge
Yw :)
left bobcat
You’re welcome GANG SKRTTT SCHYEAHHHHH
shadow wind
So does anyone have predictions for what restricted duos will carry the leaderbo...
Miraidon + CSR
chrome knot
i been making HO teams this whole time wondering why does this shit suck😭
untold urchin
That was a joke wtf was that not obvious 😭
It’s really hard to tell nowadays so I assume everything is serious
chrome knot
its me, i suck at HO
spiral ridge
i been making HO teams this whole time wondering why does this shit suck😭
Girl 😭
That’s why I questioned incin
Cus you’re great at parting intim cycle and shit
chrome knot
i click buttons
spiral ridge
It’s really hard to tell nowadays so I assume everything is serious
I was Audibly laughing as I said that and made fun of myself
Maybe you do suck at assuming 😭
shadow wind
I just assume everyone is joking all the time
untold urchin
Maybe you do suck at assuming 😭
Maybe I should just assume everything is a joke unless you yell at me because if I assume everything is serious then it won’t be fun to talk to me, not that it is in the first place lol
left bobcat
I just assume everyone is joking all the time
Wait we aren’t?
spiral ridge
Bro why do you take me serious
I feel like this shoulda been learned by now
shadow wind
That’s what I’m saying
spiral ridge
We’ve defi had this convo
untold urchin
Bro why do you take me serious
I feel like this shoulda been learned by now
because you’re more mature than me even though you’re younger 
spiral ridge
Maybe I should just assume everything is a joke unless you yell at me because if...
Also shut up on that last part
untold urchin
Also shut up on that last part
WELL IDK WHAT ANYONE THINKS
spiral ridge
???
In certain scenarios MAYBE but in ow girliepop no
left bobcat
shadow wind
Take this to dms
untold urchin
sorry
spiral ridge
I was saying choice words about doomfist beating me up lmfao
chrome knot
I was saying choice words about doomfist beating me up lmfao
uhuh..
wait play ow with me…
spiral ridge
wait play ow with me…
YOU PLAY?
chrome knot
hitscan dps
left bobcat
Oh shit it took me a second to understand what just happened
Man I’m slow
I guess you can say I was on a SLOW START 
chrome knot
We doing Easter event
whatda
shadow wind
I guess you can say I was on a SLOW START <:arkeknine:669500432741040129>
Bro cooked with that one
chrome knot
they did a second le sserafim bundle
untold urchin
We doing Easter event
its april fools
im also gonna stop talking before i get yelled at by the comp helpers
spiral ridge
they did a second le sserafim bundle
The song was so pretty and so were the skins
chrome knot
Juno
spiral ridge
im also gonna stop talking before i get yelled at by the comp helpers
They likely don’t care and they’d not yell
Casual convos are very common lol
chrome knot
makes me wanna relapse to main support
spiral ridge
Juno<:blobmelt:318150867733839873>
Hehehe yess
I too broke for skins but wanted all
left bobcat
Like William
chrome knot
I too broke for skins but wanted all
hehehe
i could buy but, i dont actively play so no reason for me toooooo
spiral ridge
That was second reason as I did have money but I play rivals more anyways
Money saved for sillsong
untold urchin
They likely don’t care and they’d not yell
Casual convos are very common lol
But also I dont know anything about competitive
spiral ridge
Neither do I lmfao
untold urchin
I don’t think anyone comes in here with 0 knowledge or interest in competitive
spiral ridge
Ask me a question about a stat
untold urchin
And just talks for no reason that’s kinda rude
untold urchin
Played vgc under a vgc player’s supervision
spiral ridge
Once
Or twice
And that was monkey
You’ve played the same if not more with minh Leo
And nova sooo
untold urchin
And nova sooo
NOT YET
I asked Minh for my cottonee back and I was gonna build the team Nova sent
Only then will I play vgc truly
And fail a lot
spiral ridge
lol
left bobcat
spiral ridge
You will watch?
Sure
spiral ridge
And laugh? <:poliwhirlkek:932149535311015988>
Apparently not cus saying yes last time meant I wasn’t let into the call
I’d help
untold urchin
Apparently not cus saying yes last time meant I wasn’t let into the call
sorry
you can if you want, it’s all in good fun, it’s all for fun
That’s what Minh would say at least
spiral ridge
sorry
you can if you want, it’s all in good fun, it’s all for fun
That’s what ...
You’re fine btw I’m teasing
untold urchin
oh
bold geode
Or twice
And that was monkey
What
spiral ridge
You helped eni no?
bold geode
You helped eni no?
I did
untold urchin
What you doing in here bitch
I may have told Mayo he could come pee in here
bold geode
I may have told Mayo he could come pee in here
Only on me Bro that's disgusting
untold urchin
AYO @manic bear THIS MAN RIGHT HERE
spiral ridge
Ohhkay
bold geode
<:pepeCringe:1355411885700419644>
manic bear
Can’t believe I was woken up for this wtf. Fuck it imma just hold it in 
bold geode
Can’t believe I was woken up for this wtf. Fuck it imma just hold it in <a:Lyria...
NO MOTHERFUCKER
COME HERE
untold urchin
Can’t believe I was woken up for this wtf. Fuck it imma just hold it in <a:Lyria...
Oh shit 
sorry
manic bear
spiral ridge
Run piss boy
bold geode
I got a joke I can't say
manic bear
I got a joke I can't say
You better not, otherwise urine a lot of trouble 
manic bear
Aight imma go back to sleep now, Gn yall 
untold urchin
Gn Mayo
bold geode
wait play ow with me…
Play Rivals with me
chrome knot
fuck no
chrome knot
nope :3
bold geode
Why not
chrome knot
just not my vibe
fringe fossil
Gotta be my favorite exercise
bold geode
just not my vibe
Oh just not into the heroes being well
Marvel heroes
fringe fossil
Play Rivals with me
Rivals fried my cpu I had to get a new one and a new power supply
It’s fun but im not risking that again
chrome knot
Oh just not into the heroes being well
Marvel heroes
mhm
bold geode
mhm
Honestly not that crazy
I feel part of it for me is that but like
I grew up with Spider-Man and all that
I want to try OW seriously though
forest arrow
Honestly not that crazy
I feel part of it for me is that but like
I grew up with...
pls do
bold geode
Come play Overwatch with both of us <:AU_hehe:922698611127640075>
Low-key I might either main support or Tracer I'm ngl
untold urchin
Low-key I might either main support or Tracer I'm ngl
Be a support there needs to be more of those
bold geode
Ok what's the most annoying AF support then
forest arrow
Play Kiri or Ana
bold geode
I might also play Moira cuz my aim is ass 
forest arrow
Zen, Moira, Lucio, Juno
bold geode
fringe fossil
https://pokepast.es/e08db30e26f1eff5
ok im gonna be honest this team is probably not good but omg it is so much fun when I get it to work. Maybe with a little practice and I learn to not make a lot of stupid mistakes I could do better with it or improve on it further
untold urchin
I might also play Moira cuz my aim is ass <:KekCry:1251294703102464020>
Reddit Lucio
bold geode
Reddit Lucio
See low-key imma be honest
I only know the characters that are in naughty shit
Like I low-key be watching OW content back now just to figure out what fucking characters are what
untold urchin
See low-key imma be honest
I only know the characters that are in naughty shit
Bro 
Is comp discussion always this unhinged with you in it
bold geode
Bro <:kekhands:1179615323146702938>
Is comp discussion always this unhinged wi...
ITS NOT MY FAULT OW PEOPLE ARE FREAKS
untold urchin
Is this the forest where you reside
untold urchin
# ITS NOT MY FAULT OW PEOPLE ARE FREAKS
IM NOT
Having 6k hours in the game doesnt count
bold geode
Like deadass the only character I knew outside of that shit
Was fucking Winston
fringe fossil
how is the text so big
bold geode
Winton
untold urchin
untold urchin
winton
fringe fossil
winton
untold urchin
Like deadass the only character I knew outside of that shit
Was fucking Winston
Well your name is Monke
bold geode
@forest arrow how much longer you awake
shadow wind
Meteor beam and pblades on the same team feels kinda eh
forest arrow
I got work in the morning about to go to bed
bold geode
I got work in the morning about to go to bed
Ok
astral kelp
Hai gamers
What do you think miraidons best combo is?
I was thinking av Groudon would be good but ehhh idk
fringe fossil
I have no experience but from what I was playing today groudon seemed to work well for me when I wasnt making dumb mistakes
fringe fossil
Yea he seems very hit and miss and id always feel like I had to bring him bc hes a restricted mon
torn parrot
Dog horse is everywhere as we predicted
astral kelp
Man I thought I would like zamazenta but I feel like he's so ass
All the physical attacker restricted kinda suck other than koraidon and cir and cir doesn't fit my team
wanton berry
This is a Regulation I team I came up with but I still have very little knowledge about type match-ups or anything else and at least it’s a start
mighty stump
This is a Regulation I team I came up with but I still have very little knowledg...
Looks like CIR food
wanton berry
Your not wrong about that but it’s a start it’s not fully complete
solid frigate
What do you think miraidons best combo is?
K y o g r e
astral kelp
~~K y o g r e~~
wait i meant koraidon
vocal plume
wait i meant koraidon
In terms of moveset?
solid frigate
wait i meant koraidon
Korai Lunala
vocal plume
Korai CSR could be decent as well
solid frigate
the problem is
As much i fought CSR
They all paired with Zama
and man its Piss easy to fight with Mirai Ogre
vocal plume
I feel like cori csr is so like not synergy
That's why I put decent. I feel synergy might throw it off
vocal plume
Zama CSR seems like the duo
solid frigate
its not shit its more like i have easy MU against them
solid frigate
i rather use Zac Ogre
vocal plume
i rather use Zac Ogre
Ogre doesn't count as a restricted tho no?
strange fjord
Oh, btw, MunchStats has preview data for Reg I. Pokemon with multi forms (Urshifu, Zamazenta, etc) might have some exaggerated Teammate percentages lol
solid frigate
me when someone use Eternatus Stall while i lead with Roaring Moon Lando
molten oasis
intersting
solid frigate
Oh, btw, MunchStats has preview data for Reg I. Pokemon with multi forms (Urshif...
Can i see
strange fjord
astral kelp
ogre is kyogre
I still think we should call him Kyg or Kyo
molten oasis
nah ogre
solid frigate
Nah Ogre
bold geode
Oh, btw, MunchStats has preview data for Reg I. Pokemon with multi forms (Urshif...
Tf is your Zam teammate percentages
molten oasis
Plus I call ogerpon by their mask forms
vocal plume
I still think we should call him Kyg or Kyo
I just call Ogrepon and Kyogre
bold geode
Yeah im using CalyDon rn
solid frigate
Yeah im using CalyDon rn
CSR Koraidon?
bold geode
CalyDon
strange fjord
Tf is your Zam teammate percentages
lol i said the percentages are a big buggy for multi-form pokemon
since team preview doesnt show which form of Zama it is, it gets a little weird. ill do a hot fix tomorrow
bold geode
lol i said the percentages are a big buggy for multi-form pokemon
Why you considering the other Zam form
Oh algorithm shit?
strange fjord
yeah, same reason urshifu is also a bit weird. ill figure something out lol
twin kindle
ogre is kyogre
Im ngl 😞
I was. So confused at first like is it rlly that hard to write ky in front of ogre lmao
solid frigate
fair enough
vocal plume
Might have to re-purchase Shield again soon
strange fjord
||ky||ogre
solid frigate
strange fjord
switch 2 direct in like 5 hours
wonder what they can have a direct about. Switch but better? maybe theyll mention some VC stuff
vocal plume
Might have to re-purchase Shield again soon
My poor Rapid Strike Urshifu and Calyrex-Shadow are stuck there 😢
cyan smelt
can i finally use bulldoze caly-s next to weakness policy solgaleo?
solid frigate
My poor Rapid Strike Urshifu and Calyrex-Shadow are stuck there 😢
cant you just use Pokemon Home-
vocal plume
can i finally use bulldoze caly-s next to weakness policy solgaleo?
Only one way to find out
vocal plume
cant you just use Pokemon Home-
Urshifu is in my Shield party and Calyrex-Shadow is merged so you can't move it
You have to move Caly and Spectrier separately
Which is dumb
solid frigate
can i finally use bulldoze caly-s next to weakness policy solgaleo?
i think i prefer Solgaleo+Koraidon
Like your trick Works but like you have to do that first which is finicky
solid frigate
thats why i say Koraidon Solgaleo
molten oasis
I was. So confused at first like is it rlly that hard to write ky in front of og...
yes
also zackyogre doesnt sound as good as zacogre
vocal plume
also zackyogre doesnt sound as good as zacogre
I'd ask to report back on Zacogre but ion got Zacian so
astral kelp
I just call Ogrepon and Kyogre
That's a whole 5 letters tho
vocal plume
That's a whole 5 letters tho
So lazy 😂
solid frigate
also zackyogre doesnt sound as good as zacogre
Ah yes
Zacky the zacian
twin kindle
Zac attack the zacian
vocal plume
Rolls right off the tongue
cyan smelt
man solgaleo gets so many recoil moves
twin kindle
Cuz the sun burns bright giving us light 💔 omg so deep
cyan smelt
light that burns the sky, was that necrozma's z-move
cyan smelt
hopefully with champions we get ultra necrozma back
astral kelp
Bro can we buff solgsleo fr
He feels so USELESS
WAIT
Omg he has an ability that works perfectly on my scovillain team
Maybe he's not useless I gotta cook
strange fjord
Clear Amulet Koraidon does that too, and gets Chlorophyll in set up automatically
strange fjord
Back in SwSh, i would bulldoze WP on Dmax Solgaleo
astral kelp
Oh man his move pool is so ass 💀
Ig I can try giving scovillain sash to chien pao and run protect the also run earthquake
Do I run flare blitz or heat crash hmm
strange fjord
I do wish solgaleo's sunsteel strike would break Lunala's Shadow Shield
strange fjord
Flare Blitz is more consistent bc heavy weight in Restricted format
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
astral kelp
Oh Ix
strange fjord
so mold breaker cant break it either
astral kelp
Hmmm I could run av sunsteel fangs blitz and quake
cyan smelt
but bulldoze does break the shadow shield then you can sunsteel strike away
strange fjord
true
I think Solgaleo is silly but not great. I'd love to see a team featuring da lion doing well
i like its design
strange fjord
it gets wide guard, which is something ig
astral kelp
Oh wait does it nvm
Do I just run leftovers then idfk
Maybe tr
no protect lefties tho
god his speed tier is so akward
real prairie
Morning
astral kelp
Hallo jack
real prairie
What a difference going to bed makes 🤣
astral kelp
Going to sleep L
cyan smelt
i think i might stay up to watch the direct
real prairie
see you stalking again @cyan smelt ❤️
cyan smelt
guilty
real prairie
clawed that one back from the jaws of defeat: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2333449559-khq0hxx6vlv6c8gxx4e18ot9b3cmncypw
cyan smelt
ludicolo is so cool
astral kelp
why i hate hydro pump lmao
cyan smelt
maybe i should run something else on lunala instead of power herb meteor beam and run tera fairy moonblast
astral kelp
maybe i should run something else on lunala instead of power herb meteor beam an...
i really enjoy tera fairy moonblast
fairy type is just so good
real prairie
ludicolo is so cool
i sense sarcasm lol
cyan smelt
nope being completely serious
real prairie
oh haha because i didn't bring it to those battles so thought you were like "why is she there" haha
cyan smelt
fair few people running lunala groudon
real prairie
What are the odds on that surviving that? https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2333453815-cap6ynjwvabhnjnete769jnp6bd8d4apw
thats got to be LOW
mighty stump
What are the odds on that surviving that? https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen...
Lol check Friend Guard
cyan smelt
how was your torn faster than whims?
real prairie
they clearly like to invest in bulk 
cyan smelt
maybe i should ladder
real prairie
Lol check Friend Guard
252 SpA Tera Water Kyogre Helping Hand Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 44 HP / 4 SpD Tera Fairy Miraidon in Rain with an ally's Friend Guard: 283-334 (156.3 - 184.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
so they clearly are bulk heavy
im at a loss... 252 SpA Tera Water Kyogre Helping Hand Water Spout (150 BP) vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Tera Fairy Miraidon in Rain with an ally's Friend Guard: 211-249 (101.9 - 120.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
cyan smelt
i'm not sure i like calm mind lefties lunala
real prairie
ITS ASSAULT VEST
vocal plume
So I'm assuming the assault vest helped it survive
cyan smelt
Assault vest+ friend guard
real prairie
So I'm assuming the assault vest helped it survive
Assault vest + Friend guard + a minimum either 152hp or 102SpDef investment WITH a low roll
vocal plume
That's horrific
cyan smelt
It's annoying how miraidons are moving away from the specs set
vocal plume
It's annoying how miraidons are moving away from the specs set
What are they moving to?
cyan smelt
Other items that let them use protect
vocal plume
Right
bold geode
also zackyogre doesnt sound as good as zacogre
My favorite restricted
Zackyian
Also update
Mirai CIR still kinda ass
vocal plume
What moveset does Thundurus typically use? Tailwind, Bleakwind Storm and what else?
cyan smelt
Thundurus or tornadus?
charred saddle
thundy doesnt get bleakwind
cyan smelt
Taunt and protect I think
charred saddle
so did u mean thundurus or torn?
vocal plume
so did u mean thundurus or torn?
I meant Torn
charred saddle
they both uses a very different set
charred saddle
torn TW is a must
-bleakwind/hurricane/air slash
-rest 2 are flex
weather control
taunt
protect
theres also an option to run scary face
vocal plume
I feel Tornadus could run well with a Kyogre
cyan smelt
Add urshifu in for extra fun
vocal plume
well no shit its been a pairing for ages
Gee, I only started a week ago bruh
I mean it's common sense now that I think about it
charred saddle
lately been seeing whim ogre since encore is like very annoying
cyan smelt
And light screen for caly s I'm guessing?
charred saddle
lots of scenarios to like encoring
protect etc
u could ye
btw is that kit lurking
👁️
KitsumiVGC 
undone sage
KitsumiVGC <:ono:1325188725839233105>
I can't deal with the sweaty 
I just wanna play chill haha
vocal plume
I meant Torn
I meant Torn and I don't even got one. I'm calling for Pokemon Shield fr
real prairie
just lost 2 games in a row to speed ties
astral kelp
im consideringlight screen
solid frigate
im consideringlight screen
w h y
solid frigate
at this point just run that as Single restricted
and use Bronzong
this is just a single res team
cyan smelt
You just gave me an idea, I could run bulldoze koraidon then tera dark solgaleo with draining kiss comfey to trigger wp
molten oasis
3 hours remain
astral kelp
yes this is the og team
astral kelp
You just gave me an idea, I could run bulldoze koraidon then tera dark solgaleo ...
lmfao
cyan smelt
That also gives me a resistance against caly s
cyan smelt
No wp solgaleo
cyan smelt
I remember back in swsh days they'd trigger wp on yveltal with draining kiss comfey
astral kelp
maybe wp mirai with PC
cyan smelt
PC?
cyan smelt
Sounds funny
Idk what else should go on the team, I've got koraidon, comfey and solgaleo now
real prairie
and use Bronzong
wide guard, imprison, Trick Room, Body press 🤣
astral kelp
Idk what else should go on the team, I've got koraidon, comfey and solgaleo now
flutter and rb are auto includes
bad ogre matchup
cyan smelt
Terrible
astral kelp
rb just destroys ogre
cyan smelt
Unless it's tera grass
astral kelp
then flare blitz should kill even in rain
chrome knot
wide guard, imprison, Trick Room, Body press 🤣
i figured out my issue with this format
astral kelp
i think
real prairie
i figured out my issue with this format
oh?
cyan smelt
It won't
chrome knot
im a balance girl and i’ve been making HO teams wondering why i couldn’t find a groove cx
astral kelp
wtf man
real prairie
?
real prairie
im a balance girl and i’ve been making HO teams wondering why i couldn’t find a ...
makes sense
its hard to resist HO in a format where you can have 2 nukes
real prairie
the temptation to go CSR + Scarf tera ghost Kyogre is HIGH
chrome knot
albeit the teams aren’t bad they just aren’t for me
cyan smelt
I need some additional form of speed control, I've got icy wind and bulldoze
real prairie
TW?
chrome knot
think if i go train in the mountains and only play csr zam till milwaukee i should be good
jaunty briar
I wanna battleelelellee
astral kelp
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2333497903
solgaleo is actually not that bad
astral kelp
think if i go train in the mountains and only play csr zam till milwaukee i shou...
objectivetely no way that goes wrrongh
bro how do you guys deal with follow me trick room
with indeedee or fari
do i have to run imprision or something
cyan smelt
I just had a thought, sunsteel strike is great for ohkoing rockpon
cyan smelt
It also functions like mold breaker so no sturdy
astral kelp
need better evs tho tbh
astral kelp
It also functions like mold breaker so no sturdy
does it stop rapagos?
cyan smelt
Yes
astral kelp
why do they just make new abilities with different names that have the exact same function as other abilities
cyan smelt
"signature moves"
astral kelp
talking about this and clear body
astral kelp
"signature moves"
cyan smelt
"signature abilities"
azure ether
they like gen 5
vocal plume
they like gen 5
Evidently lol
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
astral kelp
what the fuck is this
molten oasis
A mediocre move
astral kelp
this team was crazy
jaunty briar
Anyone tryna single battle on SV
cyan smelt
ok time to try my crazy idea
astral kelp
ok time to try my crazy idea
have you built it?
cyan smelt
yep
astral kelp
i just lucked them so hard
im so glad this discord is waking up on comfey
cyan smelt
astral kelp
https://pokepast.es/f85127042b2426a7
we have 5/6 exact same mons 💀
solid frigate
im so glad this discord is waking up on comfey
i am not leading Comfey or using it
its just Kyogre being Dummy Strong here with Moon Lead
astral kelp
astral kelp
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2333507080
that turn 1 crit was nasty
OMG AND THE FREEZE ON RB HAHA
nice knock off play on lunala
solid frigate
nice knock off play on lunala
Ya know
Even with that i can still Edrift on that Lunala
astral kelp
honestly maybe ishould just run normal miraidon on my koraidon team
its just so fucking good
vocal plume
honestly maybe ishould just run normal miraidon on my koraidon team
KoraiDon? MiraiDon? Nah that doesn't work
astral kelp
komidon
vocal plume
Komraidon?
cyan smelt
why do people just forfeit instantly when they see your team
astral kelp
kormidon
vocal plume
why do people just forfeit instantly when they see your team
I don't complain
Nah Komraidon sounds better
solid frigate
KoraiDon? MiraiDon? Nah that doesn't work
b i k e s
vocal plume
Miraidon is arguably better than Koraidon so it makes sense
astral kelp
id cry
vocal plume
What would Zama Lunala be? Zamanala?
astral kelp
lunala and zamazenta seems counter intuitive together
cyan smelt
lost to solar beam jumpluff lmao
vocal plume
Eh I'm just creating names
vocal plume
lost to solar beam jumpluff lmao
I'd laugh but you are definitely better at pokemon than I am so imma shush
cyan smelt
nah it was funny
vocal plume
I mean Jumpluff is funny af lmao
astral kelp
lmao wtf is bro cooking
vocal plume
lmao wtf is bro cooking
Surely crowned is being used the most for the defensive capabilities tho.
I know this is about Base Zama
But like what is he cooking
vocal plume
dude you lose 40 bst
Having THAT much def and spd is better than slightly better speed
astral kelp
tbf it is like less defense the more you have
vocal plume
Exactly
With Zama the better your defense, the better your attacks are
But conversely, getting the speed boost over mons like Mirai is cool
solid frigate
Why would you even drop for worse Defensive typing,Defense Stats
When you ain’t gonna invest on that much speed
astral kelp
ikr
solid frigate
like come on that’s not a Justified way to run Base Zama
vocal plume
Facts
solid frigate
also isnt base Zama in Smogon still use IDBP
cyan smelt
this ain't working so well, need to position better
astral kelp
lol any1 replays
cyan smelt
hang on
astral kelp
dude why you running 4 atk on comfey
cyan smelt
ev dump
solid frigate
Comfey does not need speed so remove that as well and put it in SpD
Or put it in SpA
astral kelp
yea
cyan smelt
losing a lot with this team but i think it's just teething problems
astral kelp
teething??
cyan smelt
getting used to it
cyan smelt
nah
vocal plume
getting used to it
You'll get there. Trust
cyan smelt
real prairie
nah wtaf has happened to wood hammer on Showdown
astral kelp
wdym?
real prairie
sorry power whip
solid frigate
special groudon wtf
Gen 6 Flashbacks
cyan smelt
i'm not sure if this team is good but it's funny
vocal plume
Again I got faith in you lad
cyan smelt
vocal plume
Gonna take me time to cook up a team for next month
cyan smelt
losing too many with this team
vocal plume
Imma try CSR and Kyogre
cyan smelt
gonna scrap it i think
glad imp
Imma try CSR and Kyogre
I feel like kyogre is really good rn
vocal plume
I feel like kyogre is really good rn
Just want to use him
glad imp
Just want to use him
he’s so good at shutting down opposing koraidon and he can rip 100% accurate thunders
jaunty briar
Does your team have syngergy?
solid frigate
Does your team have syngergy?
got into 1200 in second day of Ladder
Speak for itself
cyan smelt
losing too many with this team
jaunty briar
got into 1200 in second day of Ladder
Oh dayum
cyan smelt
i'm gonna abandon this team
astral kelp
rip
solid frigate
cyan smelt
beat a muk smeargle team, felt good
solid frigate
Man CIR Mirai is Ass
astral kelp
why is koraidon in content?
also csr under zacian huh?
wait is zacian actually good
i miss every single play rough
solid frigate
Zacian is way better in terms of pairing up with Miraidon
CSR is good but you kinda in a Situation that you get fucked by Hard TR+Speed Booster Flutter Mane
And Koraidon is self explanatory when you look at the typing
astral kelp
you usually tera koraidon anyways idk
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
solid frigate
but Miraidon also wants Tera for the damage Boost.
solid frigate
Also isnt that makes Ground gonna nuke both restricteds if Korai Tera
Zac Ogre is gonna have a field day as well against them
Groudon does not have that issue
molten oasis
Zacian is way better in terms of pairing up with Miraidon
lowkey i think mirai zac is overrated
astral kelp
idk i still feel like koraidon is fast enough to be able to nuke one or 2 mons before dying
you should try order this that could be fun lmfao
solid frigate
i will not order them
glad imp
Everyone gangsta til I pull up with eviolite cosmoem
astral kelp
maybe ill try eternatus in this format
smoky shard
I want to get into doing competitive double battles because I want to try a slaking wheezing strategy. Who else should I throw on the team in the back
Im aware im gonna suck at first
solid frigate
lowkey i think mirai zac is overrated
Heck CIR Mirai is overrated
astral kelp
this could be good
solid frigate
thanks Arubega-
molten oasis
stop
astral kelp
why did people decide to put in cir in arubega i dont get it
molten oasis
cuz arubega is really good
astral kelp
ofc but why cir
solid frigate
its Big 6 level of Busted
molten oasis
cuz CIR mirai should be crazy, mirai likes tailroom
solid frigate
ofc but why cir
cuz TR mode replacing Either fari or whims
molten oasis
CIR is also fine in tailroom
solid frigate
but its just ass and everyone prepared for it
astral kelp
im guessing you dont always bring cir
astral kelp
but its just ass and everyone prepared for it
its actually the chalk effect
solid frigate
Arubega is on Big 6 Level of Busted
Chalk is kinda just its busted but like compare to Arubega who literally won worlds+ the regional After
solid frigate
Xerneas P Groudon
And i forgot the last 4
molten oasis
anyway with mirai zac, i just feel like mirai isnt that flexible in sets
protect is so nice and they both fucking hate ground types
solid frigate
anyway with mirai zac, i just feel like mirai isnt that flexible in sets
unless you are a Psychopath and run AV Miraidon
astral kelp
parabolic mirai isnt too bad i really gotta try it
solid frigate
OTS:
astral kelp
i dont play ots 
molten oasis
unless you are a Psychopath and run AV Miraidon
eh, thats not
astral kelp
i love jumpscaring opp with dumb strats
i also love being jumpscared with dumb strats
molten oasis
like yea they're both offensive but i dont feel like mirai even does that much for zac besides blowing up incin
solid frigate
eh, thats not
look i am a Miraidon player and i absolutely hate AV Miraidon
(Lorb is fine but its just finicky)
molten oasis
plus im ngl with all the psyspam on ladder rn mirai felt really annoying to position with a mon that doesnt want to switch out
solid frigate
like yea they're both offensive but i dont feel like mirai even does that much f...
against Kyogre i guess but Zac can do that with Play Rough Right
wait nvm play rough misses Half of the time
molten oasis
zac can handle ogre
solid frigate
dialga CIR
Dialga Kyogre
molten oasis
but also, its early, and tbh mirai is not my playstyle
astral kelp
i mean mirai
solid frigate
these losers give me trick room
hey one of them actually won worlds Before
astral kelp
wait what which one
astral kelp
what did they run even?
glad imp
back in Early Days of VGC
Wasn’t that the spikes/stealth rocks meta?
astral kelp
i played against a double pressure encore team that was wild
solid frigate
Wasn’t that the spikes/stealth rocks meta?
w h y would you run Stealth Rock in Doubles VGC
astral kelp
glad imp
Idk bro I didn’t pick up Pokémon til sw/sh 😭
How am I supposed to know what happened in the wee days of platinum?
solid frigate
I picked up VGC in SV.
glad imp
Yeah hindsight makes sense
astral kelp
what a shit signature move lmao
glad imp
Hyper beam? Is that you?
glad imp
That would be fun
dense latch
signature moves have just gotten so much better over time
they need to help out the older guys
astral kelp
bro why does dialga have such a shit movepool
it gets flash canon
as its best steel type move
glad imp
signature moves have just gotten so much better over time
At first when I read it I thought it was like gigaton hammer for a sec
astral kelp
and either dragon pulse which sucks or draco meteor which isnt ideal
dense latch
At first when I read it I thought it was like gigaton hammer for a sec
that could be a good buff too lowkey
astral kelp
i might just use lorb honestly
solid frigate
Flash Cannon
Draco Meteor
Trick Room/Earth Power
Protect/Trick Room
run that and you should be fine
where’s my Dialga CIR team
dense latch
it’s insane to me how spacial rend isn’t 100% accurate
it’s a 100 BP move it doesn’t need a drawback
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
astral kelp
maybe ill use giratina
glad imp
it’s insane to me how spacial rend isn’t 100% accurate
I mean at least it’s not like 80% or smth
astral kelp
sooo tanky
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
solid frigate
maybe ill use giratina
dies to Glacial Lance and Astral Barrage
Im sorry Giratina is my fav Legendary and i dont think it works
astral kelp
shadow force is pretty good
dense latch
mid
astral kelp
im talking about just
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
solid frigate
Just stop.
glad imp
What’d u run?
jaunty briar
I used to be a toxipex abuser in solos
Hes so fk tanky
vocal plume
he’s so good at shutting down opposing koraidon and he can rip 100% accurate thu...
100%. His power is unbelievable
vocal plume
palkia oh my lord
Palkia's is HORRENDOUS
cyan smelt
this team completely blows
vocal plume
this team completely blows
What are you using?
cyan smelt
a shit team
vocal plume
Sure, that sums it up
cyan smelt
koraidon, solgaleo, raging bolt, flutter, torn, comfey
vocal plume
koraidon, solgaleo, raging bolt, flutter, torn, comfey
I think it is probs just Solgaleo
cyan smelt
it doesn't do enough damage
vocal plume
another one
Is that Miraidon, Dialga, Oranguru and Glisor?
astral kelp
mayhaps
cyan smelt
i'm gonna abandon the team
vocal plume
i'm gonna abandon the team
Fair enough for trying something different tho
cyan smelt
solgaleo did more damage in a dmax format
vocal plume
What price is the switch 2?
glad imp
Where you have to pay money for a console manual
Just for the manual they’re making you pay?
astral kelp
bruh i was cleaning a frying pan using the boil vinegar water and baking soda method but i forgot it and now its completley burnt
fuck meeee how do i clean this
it was like 20 bucks maybe i just throw it away
my favorite pan too
solid frigate
astral kelp
i really want to play something with substitute
its in a weird spot where nothing is tanky enough and fast enough to use it well
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
astral kelp
oh cool move
molten oasis
W direct
patent marsh
bro why was there a fromsoft game in bloodborne's world in that direct
what happened to bloodborne
molten oasis
They hate the fans
patent marsh
They hate the fans
what's crazier it's confirmed to be a nintendo switch 2 exclusive
chrome knot
toads factory back for mario kart🥹
molten oasis
Silksong’s a real game (probably)
chrome knot
it is
molten oasis
The camera is $50
real prairie
i really want to play something with substitute
skill swap prankster substitute lol
mint void
Dont give him ideas
astral kelp
Love that guy
real prairie
lol
astral kelp
solgaleo did more damage in a dmax format
Yeah he Kind does nothing rn
I guess wide guard zamazenta lunala alternative
Fills in the same role as zamazenta pretty much
real prairie
thats the spirit
astral kelp
I need to be able to survive like 2 hits on substitute
real prairie
tbh fake out pressure + subsitute is the obvious answer
astral kelp
I wonder if there's any pokemon that can do that and learns sword dance or something
astral kelp
tbh fake out pressure + subsitute is the obvious answer
Very true stopping double ups
It's kinda funny
I thought she'd tail would be busted and used everywhere when I was starting out
But it's kinda nigh unusable
Although
Sceptille feels underrated
astral kelp
Ehhh
Maybe
The mins that learn it are really slow
And not tánky enough
Unburden sceptille maybe
But the payoff isn't worth the effort
Like big deal you live 1 more hit wow
Like who would be good if they could learn shed tail?
real prairie
unburden sceptile might work with Indeedee follow me and psychic seed, letting you swap out maybe CIR with a sub and +1 SpDef
astral kelp
Yeah but you can also just follow me trick room and win
astral kelp
unburden sceptile might work with Indeedee follow me and psychic seed, letting y...
Though
I want to try this
It's a 3 pokemon commitment which kinda sucks tho
I saw this sceptille. Miraidon team that was really fucking cool
Maybe I'll try dragon cheerzceptile with parabolix mirai with min speed oranguru
You deagon cheer then so some shit
Then you can shed tail with like 300 speed and spam instruct
Or trick room
3 turn trick room setup where they can just kill the miraidon at any time or fake out sceptille lmao
patent marsh
The camera is $50
nobody is buying it anyways
just the voice chat is enough, the camera for video chat is just too much
molten oasis
I know, I can’t believe they’re charging you that much for it tho
The quality didn’t look good either
astral kelp
Silksong’s a real game (probably)
I saw a video about it that makes a lot of sense
They were forced to release hollow knight way before they wanted to
Now they can take their time so they will
Pretty based I love their approach
real prairie
I want to try this
well it can work with CIR or Lunala, and you also have the straight TR option instead
astral kelp
True
Man a big problem with my teambuilding is that I always try to find perfect synergies but in a way where if something gets disturbed in a specific way the entire strategy is ruined
Prolly comes with all the combo decks I used to play in runeterra
I feel like in card games everything works so neatly and perfectly
I'm really enjoying the variability and extra considerations you have to have in pokemon
real prairie
butt cheeks clentched on that one https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2333640754-v76eath6j49b279ewtwp7fk64olis18pw
vocal plume
Time for me to make some teams
solid frigate
@real prairie
real prairie
LOL
cyan smelt
well that solgaleo team i made was shit
solid frigate
well that solgaleo team i made was shit
you too focused on the gimmicks you wanna do tho i'd would say
cyan smelt
it was a dumb idea
solid frigate
its not persay but focusing on one gimmick is hard to use that team as a success
cyan smelt
it got destroyed by tailwind and tr
solid frigate
because it was that obvious to counter
the only reason why it was good in SWSH cuz Dynamax
solid frigate
i might try groudon and ho-oh
Korai Ho-oh would work
cyan smelt
might be bad in TR
and might struggle with miraidon
Maybe I could try discharge miraidon next to Groudon
thick geyser
Any changes to this team https://pokepast.es/648c017fe84b4447
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
real prairie
What happens if i encore and imprison a move?
dense latch
What happens if i encore and imprison a move?
Similarly, it will use Struggle if it is forced to use a single move by Encore or a held choice item but that move is blocked by Imprison.
fringe fossil
I wanna try playing the in game ladder which restricted should I switch out to make this team for reg G
https://pokepast.es/8c2caed7ed800a3f
Im thinking switch out caly for a different trick room setter because thats where Regirock can shine the brightest and maybe switch out tornadus for something else because Im not really bringing him all that much
vocal plume
Let's build some teams (half of them will make no sense)