competitive_discussion

[gentle crag]

dollarmonke has given 1 Gen Rep to keanufps

[lost sun]

what format is world's gonna be

[molten oasis]

double restricted

[balmy glen]

Reg I

[lost sun]

nice

[foggy lodge]

Are you going to use the same paste or adjustments with AV Bolt

[balmy glen]

AV bolt

Slightly different spreads

[bold geode]

I feel AV Bolt is just better tbh

[lost sun]

bolt is bulky AF

[summer shore]

Wow dollarmonke is dollarmonke again

[solid frigate]

hey shiro

[balmy glen]

my friend got top 8 at Stockholm with the og but I forgot to help him with adjustments 😭

[forest arrow]

shiroo

[lost sun]

hit it with a Draco meteor earlier and it only did like 66%

[summer shore]

Hello chat

[balmy glen]

or 9th whoops

[foggy lodge]

I liked booster bolt but I guess AV is just a lot better for CSR

[bold geode]

Holy shit is that @summer shore

[balmy glen]

We need it for the newer csr adaptations ye

[summer shore]

It is monke

[dense latch]

best of luck in atlanta keanu

[astral kelp]

what can ting lu do?

[lost sun]

fissure

[balmy glen]

ty

[gentle crag]

keanufps has given 1 Gen Rep to eriksp

[summer shore]

Its really really fat

[bold geode]

How is @summer shore today

[solid frigate]

immediately missed the icicle crash again

[foggy lodge]

What are the new ones?

[astral kelp]

yea fat buyt what can it do

[summer shore]

I'm at the gym rn

[foggy lodge]

I've been seeing mostly just CSR balance

[balmy glen]

Well I meant like the post worlds ones

With tailwind stuff

[lost sun]

lower spa and tank a lot

[bold geode]

Oh nice what we doing today

[foggy lodge]

Ohh yeah

[astral kelp]

its got ruination trapping taunt

[summer shore]

I am a fbeod enjoyer just finishing with cardio

[bold geode]

I see

[lost sun]

valid

[astral kelp]

and ig i could use snarl?

[summer shore]

Ruination is stupid and gf didnt learn from nmad

[next stump]

https://x.com/animusvgc/status/1906853556973400228?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddfszOAZ6w

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Kyle (@AnimusVGC) on X

Why do we play urshifu format for every worlds this gen? Tera is a good mechanic that gets tainted by urshifu

X · Mar 31, 2025, 11:38 PM

[lost sun]

should do half of full hp instead

[solid frigate]

calyrex:

[woven hearth]

What’s generally a better special attacking move, energy ball (grass), focus blast (steel), or shadow ball (ghost)

[forest arrow]

Running Tera Water on everything

[solid frigate]

shadow ball

the first 2 jus does not work

[summer shore]

It depends on the mon and its options

[woven hearth]

Reuniclus. Making a trick room sweeper. I’ve a stab move, thunder for a rain gimmick, and I’m just looking for another reliable attack now

[summer shore]

Not energy ball

[solid frigate]

ok then none of them works

[summer shore]

And this is for vgc?

[foggy lodge]

Reuniclus is cool I was thinking about using it at a GC

It didn't make the cut tho it was too dogshit

[woven hearth]

Which would work then?

[woven hearth]

BBS

[solid frigate]

Shiro you do your thing

[astral kelp]

i think its really funny how they gave the vessels dark type super fang

[summer shore]

Oh its singles cool

CM Recover Stored Power Shadow Ball done

[woven hearth]

A fair assessment but for me he’s just my favorite so I gotta take him as my ace

[solid frigate]

Shiro do your thing cuz like we ain't dealing with BSS

[summer shore]

Magic Guard @ leftovers/life orb

[astral kelp]

wtf its move pool is so ass

ohw ait nvm

[summer shore]

Idk if you would really want reuniclus tho

At the bss power level i have my doubts

[astral kelp]

its a cool mon and magic guard is pretty good

pretty bulky too i can see why

[woven hearth]

Viability aside I can’t leave him behind he’s so perfect just look at that smile 😭

[summer shore]

Magic Guard @ leftovers/life orb
CM Recover Stored Power Shadow Ball/Focus Blast (coverage dependent)

[woven hearth]

No stab move?

[summer shore]

Stored power

[woven hearth]

Ah ok

[astral kelp]

it was my favorite mon for a while

[summer shore]

SBall loses hard into darks but like the mon is already kinda weak to darks

[astral kelp]

id say in this meta definitevly shadow ball

[summer shore]

Probably tera fairy fight or water

[woven hearth]

Yeah and dark it outright immune to psychic I’m aware of that weakness

[summer shore]

HP Def evs will do

[astral kelp]

why stored power huh

[solid frigate]

CM

[summer shore]

U cm

2 cms and u win

[solid frigate]

+Base power increase

[woven hearth]

I was actually thinking Tera fairy for defensive coverage

[astral kelp]

isnt this an expanding force team?

[astral kelp]

ye i like that

with the amount of covarage it has maybe even tera stellar

[woven hearth]

Idk I’m still workshopping the idea there’s a lot to experiment

So stored power is really that strong?

[solid frigate]

it increases base power whenever there is a positive stat change

[summer shore]

Realistically reuniclus is better out of TR than in TR teams

[left bobcat]

…

[woven hearth]

Hmm…could that potentially pair well then with a baton pass support?

[summer shore]

Because the mon is too weak without setup to really go off

[left bobcat]

It’s not April fools yet

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 579: Reuniclus

Type

Psychic

Abilities

Overcoat, Magic Guard, Regenerator (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

110/65/75/125/85/30

Total

490

Sableye version 4.28.1

[summer shore]

Its singles

[dense latch]

reg i ladder is already up damn

[astral kelp]

dude this is not weak

125 spa is really good

[woven hearth]

My plan was lead Indeedee with psychic surge is that something?

[astral kelp]

i dont think you need that much setup

[lost sun]

when does the new season start

[astral kelp]

helping hand ef just kills

[summer shore]

Please tell me what this mon does into a singular ting lu

[astral kelp]

bro who cares its not one mon you run coverage

[solid frigate]

nothing

[astral kelp]

just run urshifu or something

[left bobcat]

Or just run

[lost sun]

anyone want to 1v1 doubles

[summer shore]

Urshifu in TR yes

We run that

[left bobcat]

Iron ball ursh

[woven hearth]

I get where you’re coming from and I know what you’re saying but when I can only bring three pokemon into a battle, reuniclus makes slot 1 every time for me

[foggy lodge]

You see Ting-Lu and you click forfeit

[astral kelp]

based asf

[astral kelp]

i mean you dont need to go hard trick room

[summer shore]

Yes I understand the pet pokemon

[astral kelp]

you can have a trick room mode

[summer shore]

I would suggest reconsidering the holistic team approach though

[left bobcat]

Oh singles

[woven hearth]

Yee bss

[left bobcat]

Welp good luck with that cuz I haven’t the slightest clue

[lost sun]

with dig

[woven hearth]

Luck appreciated😭

[summer shore]

Having reuniclus in a non TR approach lets you have better options at the 2 & 3

[woven hearth]

[left bobcat]

I tried singles and so far the only thing I’ve been able to cook with is specs quark drive bundle

[summer shore]

Especially in BSS

You have ur setter and reuniclus fixed at 1&2

Now you have 1 slot left to cover for your double psychics

[woven hearth]

I always saw the low speed as a trick room required issue

[summer shore]

But TR options vs darks is like

Robot hariyama

[woven hearth]

Iron hands?

[lost sun]

robot hariyama

[summer shore]

Bc you need physical coverage

[summer shore]

Yeah

[left bobcat]

Pfffff no

[lofty tartan]

Brian Hands

[solid frigate]

Brain hands

[lost sun]

Brian hands meta in greg

[left bobcat]

Ferropalmas is more like it

GANG

[woven hearth]

Psyshock hits based off Defense instead of special defense if that means anything

[left bobcat]

YO

[forest arrow]

Brian Hands the goat

[left bobcat]

SKRTTT

[summer shore]

Issues of darks remains

[left bobcat]

Ferropalmas is better

[woven hearth]

ah true true

[lost sun]

flacko do u have some tort of typing tourettes

[left bobcat]

Yes in order to conquer the darkness within us we have to uh-

[summer shore]

Like say you have Hatt Reuniclus + spatk tr mon

And then you see 1 ting lu

Just give up

You see 1 dark mon

You give up

[woven hearth]

Iron valiant?

It’s a fighting fairy

[summer shore]

Look at val's speed

[left bobcat]

It’s too fast

[summer shore]

And thus again we boil down to TR is not it for Reuniclus in singles

TR mons in singles demands immediate power

[left bobcat]

Man singles really is more complicated than it is

[summer shore]

You have very limited turns of TR

[woven hearth]

Ok reworking that idea say we ditch the tr idea, what options open up from there

[lost sun]

singles is ass

[summer shore]

And limited slots in BSS

[left bobcat]

I remember playing a match and we lasted for about- 40 ish turns

[solid frigate]

thats OU

[summer shore]

I need to review whats legal in BSS first xdd that format is the wild west

[left bobcat]

USE RAPID SPIN

[summer shore]

40 is nothing

[woven hearth]

Fair XD

[solid frigate]

isn't it still reg G

[left bobcat]

Of course it’s not but for me it’s unbearable

[lost sun]

fr

[left bobcat]

Should be

[woven hearth]

I myself don’t know anything about what I’m doing as I’ve never really looked at competitive before a few days ago

[summer shore]

The dopamine hit of breaking stall after 100+ turns is incomparable

[lost sun]

idk those 2 people kept swapping for 1000 turns straight

[molten oasis]

Reg I is live

[left bobcat]

I like my games to end in 1-2 turns

[lost sun]

what

[left bobcat]

If you saw my last few replays you would know

[summer shore]

I think you probably will be more comfortable if you read on the basics first so lemme send you some resources

[left bobcat]

Until I use my annoying teams

[woven hearth]

DMs are open

[azure ether]

Hopefully they keep Reg G on SD along with Reg I

[left bobcat]

What are the business hours

I could eat

[astral kelp]

hm whats a good 5th here

maybe shifu?

[left bobcat]

How would you rate dms from 1-5 stars?

[azure ether]

I won't be able to practice anymore if they remove it

[molten oasis]

lunala terapagos?

[solid frigate]

Pagos is trash in reg I

[astral kelp]

doesnt hurt to try anyways

[left bobcat]

You hurt me

[molten oasis]

if pagos is supposed to be the offensive piece this isnt gonna work

[left bobcat]

So yeah it does hurt

[astral kelp]

okay?

[molten oasis]

please pick another restricted like korai or like, mirai

[woven hearth]

Me coping convincing myself I can make a reuniclus team work 😭

[left bobcat]

I mean all anyone can do is try

[solid frigate]

i mean BSS also has restricted Pokemon

[lofty tartan]

I dunno man, saying this stuff on day -30 seems like jumping the shark. Remember the first Regional with Miraidon, that really bad Restricted that no one should use because it's trash?

[astral kelp]

i know that rapagos isnt ideal in double restricted since its like weak and selfish but i think with the right comp it could be good

[left bobcat]

I have like 110 teams on showdown and I just keep trying and trying until I make something I like

[astral kelp]

literally right

rapagos with a supportive restricted could be good im sure

[left bobcat]

And works of course

[molten oasis]

im still gonna go out oh a whim and say you shouldnt run lunala and pagos together

[summer shore]

Its workable your life just becomes harder

[left bobcat]

Hmmmmmm

[lofty tartan]

This I don't disagree with

[molten oasis]

pagos kinda needs a bunch of things to work and i feel like you need a more offensive restricted with pagos not the other way around

[bold geode]

Miraidon was such a fucking situation

[cyan smelt]

Can lunadon still be viable

[left bobcat]

Just swap out Lunala with shadow rider

[molten oasis]

its still viable

[astral kelp]

that could be the strat

[left bobcat]

We’re all viable

[bold geode]

I just don't know like
What Pagos wants or what wants Pagos

[cyan smelt]

Zacian pagos

[astral kelp]

only one way to find out

kinda sucks i cant try this team out in sd

[left bobcat]

Groudon/miraidon

[astral kelp]

OH WAIT

that was fast

[left bobcat]

I call it miraidon

[astral kelp]

i checked like 30 minutes ago and there was nothing

[bold geode]

Yeah but doesn't Zac Ogre just give you more value

[forest arrow]

There’s a better LunaDon

[bold geode]

Don't forget CalyDon and CalyDon
And CalyDon and CalyDon

[molten oasis]

the concept of zacpagos is to threaten things then use pagos to kill the things that tera'd

[bold geode]

Did I mention CalyDon yet?

[cyan smelt]

I'm not hopping on the reg I ladder too early because it'll be a clusterfuck

[molten oasis]

however i would argue kyogre does this better because the things you tera out of to get away from zac tend to be fire, which kyogre nukes

[woven hearth]

Well ima get back to workshopping my team and praying reuniclus makes it into z-a

[molten oasis]

but i do think zacpagos could work

[woven hearth]

[left bobcat]

Maybe

[astral kelp]

first reg i match time

[left bobcat]

Wait come backkkkkkkkk

Noooooooooooooooooooooooo

[woven hearth]

?

I’m not dying lol

[astral kelp]

fucking INSTANTLY miraidon koraidon

[left bobcat]

Oh

Well uh-

[left bobcat]

Hmmmm I like were you’re going with this and I’m two steps ahead of you

Oh wait nvm you have chi yu

[astral kelp]

no thats op

[woven hearth]

I think bro is cooked 💀

[astral kelp]

nah im winning so far

[forest arrow]

Why do you only have Lunala

[lofty tartan]

He has Terapagos who's little

[forest arrow]

Oh Terapagos I didn’t see it

[molten oasis]

he has pagos, which i did suggest he not do but its too late now

[forest arrow]

lol

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2332411051

First win of the day

[lofty tartan]

Hey he's got a terrain counter and weather counter; he's fine

[astral kelp]

holy gay tera button

[left bobcat]

I was thinking maybe orichalcum pulse Tera fire miraidon overheat

[molten oasis]

those 2 just dont hit that hard but whatever ig

[left bobcat]

They sure wasted no time

[cyan smelt]

What is your opponent's name lmao

[left bobcat]

I’m gonna try it

Orichalcum pulse Tera fire beads of ruin life orb miraidon

That’s GOT to KO something

[molten oasis]

i was talking about pagos lunala

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/you-know-it-yup-yas-gif-20862141

[left bobcat]

Well I’m talking about-

Ok you got me

Does this mean it’s the end for ice rider?

Actually nvm

[molten oasis]

no ice rider should still be good

[left bobcat]

You could always just pair with Kyogre which I’m gonna do

[next stump]

gimme MDB hard TR with Lunala > Raging Bolt

[left bobcat]

Dawn wings and Lunala

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2332413367

2nd win

this team is doing some work

[molten oasis]

im gonna wait a few days for ladder to build up

plus i have other things i gotta do

eh maybe i'll play a bit

[astral kelp]

huh why does it say lunala is illegal in reg i

[left bobcat]

Maybe Lunala didn’t come there legally

Bros just like me fr

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/imbibitor-lunae-dan-heng-dan-heng-il-danheng-star-rail-gif-6335356100208380021

me rn

[left bobcat]

Once again

[astral kelp]

lets try a zacian ogre team

[left bobcat]

This is like the 3rd time I’ve seen you beat the odds

[left bobcat]

On the next episode

[solid frigate]

Miraidon Kyogre is that good

[astral kelp]

do i bring back the basculegion muahah

[balmy glen]

holy crap im sorry in advanced if any of u guys face me on my first team LOL

[left bobcat]

I mean it’s alright

[balmy glen]

this is actually to troll

[left bobcat]

Eh don’t worry it’s a light pack

[balmy glen]

nobody expects u to tera a non restricted so like all of these players are just dying to my ogerpon like

[left bobcat]

(I’m kidding) I haven’t even started yet

[balmy glen]

cmon guys 😭

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2332421131

Me rn

[left bobcat]

I honestly felt that pain

My tsareena missed power whip 3 TIMES

Well if everybody else is grinding the new reg

I guess it’s time I step in to

Mmmm ok maybe tomorrow I just feel very comfortable laying flat on my bed

[astral kelp]

lets try whatever the fuck this is

actually nah indeedee over mienshao

[azure ether]

will there be a regional or IC this April?

[astral kelp]

TOO EASY

god wtf is this pokemon

[next stump]

Atlanta in the U.S.

[astral kelp]

wait holy shit reshiram outspeeds scarf kyogre

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2332425864-rtobaab1dbai83j1w946rfril5er4a7pw

prolly scarf reshiram

this team actually feeling good so far

rilla plus indeedee aint it tho

[foggy lodge]

3-0 in bo3

I love missing my moves

[astral kelp]

maybe unironically brushix

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2332427305-5nrtcvswn3ic37apjpqmix3wvu3mqmgpw

won again

thank you Kyogre

also edited from Wo CHien to Comfey

[astral kelp]

omg comfey enjoyer

its my favorite mon

[solid frigate]

no fairy feather cuz good lord lefties save me

[astral kelp]

yeah feairy feather is meme

if youre going a real comfey set prolly mental herb

1v1?

just best of one dfont got time for best of 3 rn

also istg groudon is so ass

HOOLY THE GOAT

comfey best pokemon

[azure ether]

I hope what happens during Atlanta won't bite me in the ass

[next stump]

ayyyy let’s go

will that be regulation G or I

[azure ether]

Reg G

[left bobcat]

THATS MY TURF

[left bobcat]

GASP

[woven hearth]

How am I looking here chat?

[left bobcat]

Mmmmmmm uhhhhhhhhhh

[solid frigate]

why not scarf Water Spout

[woven hearth]

?

[solid frigate]

in singles that just nukes everything

[woven hearth]

Oh fr?

[left bobcat]

Oh wait there’s no trick room

[astral kelp]

this shit reficulous

[woven hearth]

Yeah I ditched the trick room idea

[astral kelp]

what the fuck HAHAH

[left bobcat]

Yeah scarf water spout is just death

[astral kelp]

palkia resists water 4x

[azure ether]

even if you're facing Raging Bolt, you can just switch out, no?

[astral kelp]

and it still did 30% LOL

[left bobcat]

Ig so

[woven hearth]

Interesting

[azure ether]

you'll need a switch into it tho

[solid frigate]

AV only works within Doubles

[woven hearth]

Better?

[left bobcat]

Mmmmm

[azure ether]

go Surf instead of Origin Pulse

lower power but less gamba

[woven hearth]

https://tenor.com/view/lets-go-gambling-gif-3937562841362806777

[left bobcat]

Just use 252 special attack 252 speed with 4 defense timid nature

[astral kelp]

urshifu belivevers?

[left bobcat]

Cooked

[astral kelp]

blunder policy bad

[left bobcat]

Well actually hold on

[solid frigate]

Bolt is in the back

[left bobcat]

There’s still close combat

[azure ether]

bolt switches in for Ho-Oh

[solid frigate]

no bolt is still in the back

[woven hearth]

Ah that actually is to feed into baton pass reuniclus

[left bobcat]

Oh nvm yeah you’re cooked

[astral kelp]

nah he just had to switch amoongus out and nothing i can do

[azure ether]

Ho-Oh heals with Regenerator, idk if that's still gonna be in CC range

[astral kelp]

oh well it tried

[left bobcat]

And you get a medal

[astral kelp]

x2 reuinculous is like

still extremely slow

[left bobcat]

🥇

Actually hold on wrong one that one is for me

[azure ether]

btw why are you only making 3 mons for BSS? isn't it a full team but you take 3 per battle?

[woven hearth]

True but at least it’s got decent bulk

[astral kelp]

also what are you planning to miss?

[left bobcat]

Here is your medal

🥈

[woven hearth]

Yeah but I’m putting my main three together just to start and figure something out to work on from there

[left bobcat]

GASP THE BIG THREE

[woven hearth]

Dual wingbeat is only 90% so if it misses I have good backup

[left bobcat]

Just Tera flying blast

[azure ether]

or Aerial Ace if you really value the technician boost

[astral kelp]

also the whole point of scissor usually is bullet punch

[woven hearth]

Really? Seemed kind of low for power

[azure ether]

you have Technician

[astral kelp]

its a +2 priority move boosted by technician

[woven hearth]

That’s still only 60 power though after technician

[astral kelp]

the only reason you would ever use scissor is bullet punch being good

[azure ether]

stab + technician

[woven hearth]

I always forget stab

[solid frigate]

Kyogre @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Surf
• Water Spout
• Thunder
• Ice Beam

@woven hearth run this

Scarf Ogre does not need bulk

It just need speed and a dream to nuke everything

[astral kelp]

thats why you usually go like choice band or lorb, it doesnt have to one shot just good damasge

[woven hearth]

[atomic mural]

im #3 on the ladder for reg I rn

[azure ether]

and U-turn so you can pivot

[left bobcat]

What the hell

[molten oasis]

zac mirai is not the play for me

[left bobcat]

I want to but then again I don’t want to uhhhhhhhhh

[astral kelp]

holy

shit just came out

what team?

[left bobcat]

Damn

[atomic mural]

i REALLY like how my Lunadon team is working out

[solid frigate]

i did not bother climb ladder and just want to do content

[azure ether]

what Don is this?

[atomic mural]

koraidon

[balmy glen]

I cant wait to be free from reg g and climb

[solid frigate]

Miraidon Kyogre seems like a good content

[molten oasis]

its early but this doesn't feel good lol

[foggy lodge]

I'm number 10 lmao ain't no way

[solid frigate]

Zama CSR?

[atomic mural]

i only lost 1 game because i didnt adapt to my opponents adaptation

[balmy glen]

gotta give my last dance a go though

[balmy glen]

uhhhhh tbh I think Zama is only good when its not popular

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/61053966490c6abd

[balmy glen]

its super easy to counter lol

[foggy lodge]

Keanu which ladder are you playing

Or are you not playing reg I

[balmy glen]

cart atm

[foggy lodge]

Ohhh

[solid frigate]

honestly yeah

I just beat a lot of them with Miraidon and Kyogre so yeah

The duo is so fucking good

[balmy glen]

not reg i until after atlanta

[dense latch]

room tours rn are massive lmao

[woven hearth]

Look a little better? I also tweaked scizors moves

[foggy lodge]

I have to grind cart when reg I comes out there I want to battle japanese players

[balmy glen]

thats where its at

30% of my twitter followers are japanese players cuz they recognize me from cart lol

its kind of funny

[solid frigate]

yeah its alr

[foggy lodge]

Lmao

[astral kelp]

wtf'

[solid frigate]

Keanu JP content when

[woven hearth]

[foggy lodge]

I think i battled one of the Tangs before worlds and saw their teal mask ogerpon team

[azure ether]

would prefer Choice Band over AV, but you're free to try it out I guess

[balmy glen]

only japanese player I talk to on a consistent basis is Joji/Suica

[woven hearth]

Unironically the most positive response I’ve gotten interacting with the competitive Pokemon side of the community 😭

[balmy glen]

depends on who u interact with tbh lol

[solid frigate]

its sub optimal but its singles and Kyogre+Scarf is just

Yeah-

[woven hearth]

I always worry when I get locked into one move

[azure ether]

that's why you have U-Turn

[balmy glen]

like if ur asking on sd which has a lot of smogon peeps ur prob going to get ignored since theres a lot of trolls on their forums

[solid frigate]

but but-

Keanu JP content ;-;

[azure ether]

and switch out

[woven hearth]

Well I can’t use U-turn if I’m choice locked is the issue

[balmy glen]

moment

[foggy lodge]

Wasn't there a smogon podcast of guys that also play VGC

[balmy glen]

wdym

[foggy lodge]

I think Rajan Bal is part of it

[balmy glen]

thats the point of u-turn is to pivot out while being choice locked

[azure ether]

you can just hard switch too if you've already locked out of u-turn

[woven hearth]

True I guess that’s fair

[azure ether]

otoh, it's bss so whatever is switching in won't have a good time

[balmy glen]

oh bss mb didnt look

I thought u were just sending half a vgc team lol

[woven hearth]

Oh definitely not lol

I barely know what I’m doing in singles I ain’t surviving doubles 😭

[foggy lodge]

Keanukeanukeanu

[balmy glen]

nah but pivot moves are even stronger in singles so lol

[foggy lodge]

Do you have time to run a bo3

[balmy glen]

no sorry im in the car

[foggy lodge]

Oh yeah

[azure ether]

yea you can just U-Turn everytime for chip dmg

[solid frigate]

VGC is just trial and error

In my experience,I maybe fast learner but i still need to do more stuff to prove i can do it

[balmy glen]

also if its for reg i then def not i havent built other than me trolling

[foggy lodge]

Nah just for reg G

[azure ether]

since your Scizor is slower, you can adjust the matchup on the next turn safely too

[foggy lodge]

I still want to play it

[astral kelp]

just loss to a 10% play rough miss fuckkk

[solid frigate]

F

[balmy glen]

get used to it welcome to reg i

[molten oasis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2332443634 pao amoonguss pop off

[solid frigate]

i already have flashbacks missing 2 dracos in a row in my regional run

[astral kelp]

thing is i dont feel too bad because i know i wouldve won if that didnt miss and thats enough for me lmao

[balmy glen]

thing is abt reg i is we have to land our moves while reg g was harder to cover for everything in the builder but we could use 100% acc and get solid results

[balmy glen]

review the match sometimes u find lines where u could have played better to avoid having to miss

[foggy lodge]

I hate not having Weezing MU lol

[astral kelp]

i need to find ways to stopping trick room

[atomic mural]

bro i messed up on game a 2 and brought koraidon instead of lunala and still won

[foggy lodge]

I was trying Joey's Miraidon Volcarona team

[astral kelp]

maybe i run imprision?

[foggy lodge]

Maybe I just don't know how to use it

[astral kelp]

i have 2 taunts and it still happens sometimes

[balmy glen]

nah the mu is hard into weezing but theres stuff u can do

[azure ether]

I was gonna say just play under it, but your team is so fast lol

[astral kelp]

yeah thats why im running 2 taunts

lunala is such a good trick romo setter

follow me trick room is so hard to stop

[foggy lodge]

Yeh

What else hmmm

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/59cb6c0722ba3401 what i am running @balmy glen

it feels solid to pilot currently

[foggy lodge]

Maybe I struggled a bit into arubega Mirai because Ogerpon does a lot of damage

But its definetely winnable I would say is like 45/55 MU

[balmy glen]

ye its def 45/55 watch joes euic stream match vs taran birdee in top 8 to see lines

joe wouldve won if he didnt get unlucky

he also messed up the line a little he told me so

[foggy lodge]

Oh true they played at EUIC

[astral kelp]

ive been going max def or spd on comfey so kiss heals more but thats prolly cuz i run incin so i dont need to worry about atk too much

[balmy glen]

just found out my av bolt was missing 128 evs uhhhhh

who let me get to 1700s with so much evs missing

[foggy lodge]

LMAO

[astral kelp]

bolt built different

[solid frigate]

bro just forgor

[atomic mural]

does someone have the link to that pars thing

or whatever its called

[astral kelp]

bro loves arubega

[foggy lodge]

Arubega ft. CIR

[atomic mural]

me me me

[solid frigate]

we have Ashton Cox using 252 Atk Lunala to win a regional

Now we have Keanu running Bolt with missing EVs

[atomic mural]

the goats dont need evs

[balmy glen]

funny thing is ashtons my favorite match at worlds we shouldve gone on stream

our games came down to me living on 1hp

[solid frigate]

dude i would love to see it happen

of course i will root for you Keanu but like

Ashton is also one of my most respected players

[balmy glen]

ashtons goated

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

[balmy glen]

but he has habits that i figured out mid set so

[foggy lodge]

whaaat

[solid frigate]

huh

[balmy glen]

im not going to say them in a public discord but ye

it was prob more so a "its worlds" type of thing where he wanted his gameplay to stay consistent

[solid frigate]

i think outside of him,MDB and Riley Factura are also my most respected players

MDB being consistent on what he do

And Factura just because he runs Crown lmao

[balmy glen]

Rileys one of my closest friends

[foggy lodge]

oh yeah

[balmy glen]

randomly hop on fortnite with him

[foggy lodge]

I saw something about derbeste being like super aggresive and reading things at worlds

[solid frigate]

LMAO Tell him i used Iron Crown because of him lol

[molten oasis]

welp, zacogre

is probably the way i play lol

[foggy lodge]

this is how i imagine my calyrex when i click psychic

[balmy glen]

some worlds players play diff at worlds than when I watch them at regionals its kind of interesting

[solid frigate]

LMFAO

[molten oasis]

did a lot better with it so far

although i have av bolt and it feels lowkey useless

[solid frigate]

i think Zac + AV Ogre works better maybe?

[foggy lodge]

Could use booster

I have tera water AV raging bolt

Is my CIR/Kyogre check lol

[solid frigate]

i think its just to not like being predictable by their habits?

its kinda like Star Wars lightsaber forms if i have to think about that

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/34f0b5795ea564e5 i mean wdyt?

[foggy lodge]

hmmm

[molten oasis]

like bolt is probably the most replacable member, and i think im 100% keeping torn zac pao kyo

[foggy lodge]

I mean

Do you think you need the extra special bulk

[molten oasis]

think its for lando

[foggy lodge]

Its a bulky offense

Actually yeah Landorus could go there

[molten oasis]

lando?

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

Or just Urshifu to keep pressure with unseen fist

Or even Iron Hands to keep the electric coverage

[molten oasis]

hands

i think hands could go hard

i like the defensive synergy with amoonguss too

[foggy lodge]

52 SpA Protosynthesis Tera Electric Sandy Shocks Thunderbolt vs. 100 HP / 4 SpD Kyogre in Electric Terrain: 212-252 (112.7 - 134%) -- guaranteed OHKO why

I have my next GC cheese again

[solid frigate]

honestly i would see AV Kyogre being used a lot due to its just so damn tanky for no reason-

[molten oasis]

mystic water goes hard

[solid frigate]

yeah probably but i just like AV's general bulk allows Kyogre to live shit

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/884ad3f002be4573 i'll try this out next

[solid frigate]

cuz i run Miraidon which i need something to tank hits for Mirai and regen with Comfey

so basically Miraidon Enables matchup that against Kyogre would be better for Kyogre and kyogre helps against CIR and Groudon which Mirai hates

if you get what i mean

[atomic mural]

that is best to put your 4 ev points in on ogerpon corner stone again

[foggy lodge]

I used bulky rockpon

"bulky" but it was just to live mystic surging strikes

[atomic mural]

even on koraidon teams?

[fringe fossil]

other than miraidon what would a good restricted pokemon to go with groudon be? I wanna build a team around him because hes one of my favorite legendaries

[atomic mural]

whats the spread

[foggy lodge]

156+ Atk Mystic Water Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 60 HP / 28 Def Ogerpon-Cornerstone on a critical hit: 135-162 (82.8 - 99.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

This is to live the standard atk that mystic water urshifu uses

[atomic mural]

whats the total spread

[foggy lodge]

If you want ensure living every mystic water surging strikes you have this

252+ Atk Mystic Water Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 84 HP / 52 Def Ogerpon-Cornerstone on a critical hit: 138-165 (83.1 - 99.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[rustic mountain]

champions in jan/feb next year then? really not much more they can do in sv other then rotating old formats really outside like an ag format or no tera

[cyan smelt]

mythicals

[rustic mountain]

i said ag

[cyan smelt]

oops misread

[foggy lodge]

Nah you just calc the mystic water surging strikes and invest everything else into atk and speed

I like max speed rockpon tho you can go adamant

[rustic mountain]

series 13 in swsh was basically that, mythicals allowed and no cap on restricteds

[cyan smelt]

only arceus and magearna would be any good though

[atomic mural]

does adamant work better if i have a tail room team

[foggy lodge]

Probably tho I would prefer outspeeding the other ogerpons outside of TR

Because most Ogerpons don't go max speed

You could beat other rockpons tho

[atomic mural]

Queen (Ogerpon-Cornerstone) (F) @ Cornerstone Mask
Ability: Sturdy
Level: 50
Tera Type: Rock
EVs: 60 HP / 164 Atk / 28 Def / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Ivy Cudgel
• Power Whip
• Follow Me
• Spiky Shield

[rustic mountain]

doesnt really matter, its an end of game b.s format

[cyan smelt]

there was one regional in that format

[atomic mural]

Queen (Ogerpon-Cornerstone) (F) @ Cornerstone Mask
Ability: Sturdy
Level: 50
Tera Type: Rock
EVs: 60 HP / 156 Atk / 28 Def / 12 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature

• Ivy Cudgel
• Power Whip
• Follow Me
• Spiky Shield
  this instead

[left bobcat]

The clout chase

The WiFi

The fufu

[rustic mountain]

either means they wouldnt have it be for the actual circuit or they wont do something like that this gen at all

[solid frigate]

Lunala

[cyan smelt]

i doubt they'd do a mythical format again tbh

[rustic mountain]

im jus theorizing post worlds sept-jan

[chrome knot]

having too much fun w/ ditto

[forest arrow]

Yeah what could champions be like tho?

[solid frigate]

maybe chaos format or Rerun of Reg F kek

[atomic mural]

@foggy lodge is this good

[atomic mural]

nice

[forest arrow]

Like formats with more than just 1 gimmick type of deal you think?

[rustic mountain]

if its meant to be the new home of vgc, they might add in stuff from lza and have like megas be the mechanic again

[forest arrow]

Thatd be cool

[rustic mountain]

do rotating formats based on different gimmicks

im not sure exactly what they plan tho it could be so many things

[cyan smelt]

actually ditto might be good in this format, third restricted lol

[azure ether]

we'll eventually get Shedinja + Tera in 1 format

[forest arrow]

Yeah we just gotta wait and see, hopefully its good tho

[rustic mountain]

yea

[atomic mural]

as soon as thats possible im going weezing

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

[rustic mountain]

dres format bein announced makes the end of svs life cycle much more apparent tho so stuff worth thinkin on imo

like where we go from here

[foggy lodge]

Its champions 100%

[azure ether]

2010 format with 4 res per team, max 2 per battle

[cyan smelt]

is champions gonna be on both switch and switch 2?

[foggy lodge]

If there's GS cup already then the next step is champions

[rustic mountain]

likely yea

[foggy lodge]

Probably on both

Its also going to be released for phones

[forest arrow]

Its on mobile it should definitely be on the switch 1

[foggy lodge]

So they would have no reason to not add it to switch 1

[cyan smelt]

if it's on mobile that's one thing it has over showdown

[forest arrow]

I play showdown on my phone all the time

[atomic mural]

ok but it would be really funny to have champions as a first game on the switch 2

well

[rustic mountain]

idk if id say already we are 3 years into the game but yea given no gen 10 in sight, lza not being comp based most likely, champions would be that link bridging the 2

[atomic mural]

we are guaranteed a new mario kart so thats nolt happening

[azure ether]

it should be a free app like Unite, no?

[rustic mountain]

[cyan smelt]

i reckon at first champions will allow mons from plza and sv

[forest arrow]

especially with way lza battles, importing those megas to champions isnt farfetched

[foggy lodge]

https://liberty-note.com/2025/03/31/tc-on-team9-1st/

Lmao

[chrome knot]

https://pokepast.es/0c881e16fd48f54b what would be a better restricted over cir, would it jus be lunala..?

[azure ether]

thundy back?

[foggy lodge]

Eh

It could find a niche

I find prankster eerie impulse + taunt + electric coverage strong sometimes

It was used in reg G at tournament and placed really well so its not impossible

[cyan smelt]

how good will giraffe be

[rustic mountain]

at this point couldnt even tell u lmao, on paper mirai cir seems good

[nocturne holly]

how is mirai zac

I feel mirai has better options than zac

[dense latch]

https://pokepast.es/0896e61a1036c9d5
https://pokepast.es/9441fa2e02d169dd

i've been trying these two teams so far

[molten oasis]

zacogre feels strong

i dont get zacmirai

but i dont think its my playstyle

[dense latch]

still figuring out what speed tiers i wanna hit with both my restricteds

[chrome knot]

IT NEEDS TO BE TAKEN AWAY FROM MEEE LMFAOOO

[atomic mural]

holy shit thats peak

[foggy lodge]

stop her

[atomic mural]

put that in that april fools cat channel

[foggy lodge]

what do you think of Inci on the second team

When I try to build "bulky mirai" I always ended in inci hands farigiraf miraidon

I'm still the biggest Jumpluff fan tho

[dense latch]

i think that's what emma's using right? diff urshi form tho i think

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/d4f7d081b931d49a

[dense latch]

i think that's pretty good too yea i like that

[foggy lodge]

Eh kinda similar

I think Dyl's team is actually a very good base for double restricted

[dense latch]

i just want a good csr zama mu lol

[atomic mural]

how did watching the newest moxie boosted video finally make me aware of a double trick room on the last turn of trick room

[forest arrow]

Korai Lunala feels solid tbh

[atomic mural]

for me my team has felt amazing

[molten oasis]

zacogre go crazy

[solid frigate]

oh god thundy-

[atomic mural]

was thinking about running that

but koraidon spamming nukes is so fun

[forest arrow]

Might try an eforce variant but idk

you tried goggles on lunala?

[atomic mural]

yeah

[forest arrow]

Its been fine?

[atomic mural]

yep

does give me my preferred spore immune pokemon of 3

[foggy lodge]

Goggles is cool for when you don't have coverage

[atomic mural]

yep

[foggy lodge]

If you want something like 3 attacks Lunala

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/1b2dd02037692786 this got me 3rd on the ladder

[foggy lodge]

I've been thinking about dropping the tect on Lunala but idk what to add lol

[dense latch]

i wonder if i can fit wide guard in cir mirai teams or if that's not necessary

[fringe fossil]

Holy CIR + Miraidon straight sweeps my team

[foggy lodge]

Maybe trick room but it's not like my team benefitiates too much from it

[dense latch]

i thought abt valiant but idk if it's worth a team slot

[atomic mural]

i won a game because i did tera flying roaring moon to sweep a faster team with earthquake ursaluna in tr

[forest arrow]

https://pokepast.es/7de12b89244b45e3

was thinking about testing lunala like this

[atomic mural]

you have double saftey goggles if you didnt know

[forest arrow]

id change it on incin just showing the lunala idea

[atomic mural]

yeah

i really like psychic seed indeedee, you get a ton of bulk and you arent taking double damage from knock offs

[nocturne holly]

that looks cool
tell me how it works out

[foggy lodge]

I used psychic seed Indeedee with Koraidon Venusaur to have a Miraidon MU lmao

[nocturne holly]

I’m prob gonna do mirai zac/cir

[atomic mural]

yeah that too

[foggy lodge]

btw berries are probably dead man

[nocturne holly]

I think mirai cir is gonna be really strong

[foggy lodge]

Atp they are dead

[molten oasis]

everyone gonna have a caly

[bold geode]

Mirai CIR kinda ass low-key

[atomic mural]

not me

[foggy lodge]

I liked my sitrus berry Volcarona

I'll miss you Joey's team

[atomic mural]

when is rental teams gonna change to reg I

[forest arrow]

Probably not until May

[astral kelp]

i love how ditto is always good

i love the guy

[atomic mural]

true

[astral kelp]

it feels so cheesy tho like usually you want your team to synergise but ditto is just

there

extra filler mon

like how do you synergise with ditto

[slender zephyr]

https://pokepast.es/e234b314ccd0dc2f
Opinion?

[astral kelp]

looks nice

other than sandy

its just kind of a worse rb

[slender zephyr]

252+ Atk Tera-Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 188 HP / 12 Def Tera-Ghost Sandy Shocks on a critical hit: 150-180 (81.5 - 97.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

🤙

[cyan smelt]

Raging bolt resists urshifu

[slender zephyr]

Bruh

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 989: Sandy Shocks

Types

Electric/Ground

Abilities

Protosynthesis

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

85/81/97/121/85/101

Total

570

Sableye version 4.28.1

[forest arrow]

yo CIR Mirai kinda sucks

[cyan smelt]

Is cir Groudon any good

[nocturne holly]

just about to say that 😭😭

[atomic mural]

its gonna be miraidon reg g all over again

[nocturne holly]

I played it a little

[bold geode]

Ayo CIR Mirai kinda ass

[atomic mural]

Ayo CIR Mirai kinda ass

[merry idol]

We managed to beat it with two Torterras and a support Brute Bonnet.

[molten oasis]

Ayo CIR Mirai kinda ass

[atomic mural]

i think ursaluna is really good into this format

[nocturne holly]

How is cir ogre?

[molten oasis]

i lost to one (barely)

it seems fine

[forest arrow]

cir ogre seems fine

[atomic mural]

im gonna talk about my first game of reg I

[forest arrow]

wide guard youre biggest opp

[atomic mural]

the guy was using a reg g team and forfeited first turn

[charred saddle]

you can play against someone above u by 200ish points what?

the fuck is this

[foggy lodge]

Which ladder is that

[atomic mural]

is that reg I ranked already?

[charred saddle]

anyway MDB CIR smeargle hard TR team is so dumb 😭

[molten oasis]

no

reg i is 1360 highest

[charred saddle]

reg G, was testing MDB CIR

[foggy lodge]

Ah yeah

[atomic mural]

alr

im still 23rd on the ladder

[foggy lodge]

For some reason reg G ladder just seems to have problems with matchmaking

[foggy lodge]

Hard TR is broken

[charred saddle]

no problems whatsoever for me

[foggy lodge]

The format needs adaptations to beat it

what

[charred saddle]

[molten oasis]

YES

[solid frigate]

YES

[nocturne holly]

What restricteds r u guys using

[atomic mural]

Lunadon

[solid frigate]

MiraiOgre

[atomic mural]

koraidon is so busted top 3 restricted fr

[lofty tartan]

Friggen got told I'll be getting a job offer this week to work with the homeless for way better pay. 2025 looking sweet. Gonna have the cash flow to compete better

[atomic mural]

w

[cyan smelt]

Congrats

[nocturne holly]

Congrats

[lofty tartan]

It's great news. Vgc ain't cheap

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/palafin-hero.png

[atomic mural]

which one is that lmao

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/beedrill.png

[dense latch]

aw it doesnt show it

[atomic mural]

what pokemon is that

[solid frigate]

its pikachu

[atomic mural]

nah its clefairy

[molten oasis]

It’s palafin hero

[solid frigate]

FUUUUUUUUUUUU

[atomic mural]

awesome

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/arcanine-hisui.png

[cyan smelt]

/afd off

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani/palafin.gif

[atomic mural]

which sprite one do i use

[boreal mauve]

Normal Palafin

Provided by Nexus-Z

[atomic mural]

man

[left bobcat]

RYUGAAAAAAAAAA

[molten oasis]

theres an april fools option

[atomic mural]

is normal palafin weak hercules

[molten oasis]

ye

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani/palafin.gif

[atomic mural]

how do you activate it

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani/palafin.gif

[molten oasis]

/ sprite / name (insert pokemon here) /april fools (true)

[cyan smelt]

Wait maybe I could finally use Groudon with sandy shocks gravity

[atomic mural]

i tried using that in reg g

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/gholdengo.png

[atomic mural]

it def worked

[cyan smelt]

Only problem is 2x ice and water weak yeesh

[atomic mural]

araquanid with utility umbrella 🔥

[cyan smelt]

Lmao

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/afd/armarouge.png

[atomic mural]

yo its mega man

[fringe fossil]

trying 2 teams one is a groudon miraidon and other is a CIR miraidon imma do morep laying tmr tho

[atomic mural]

dude i used alluring voice on this urshifu dark and when they switched into their zamazenta and next turn they hit themselves

[bold geode]

@molten oasis Ditto is Dream

[atomic mural]

cheater?

[cyan smelt]

Alluring voice is a funny move

[left bobcat]

yes my glorious KING 😫🔥

[cyan smelt]

One time I used it on a Zama and they hit themselves 3 times in a row

[foggy lodge]

I always believed in alluring voice

[atomic mural]

alluring voice indeedee really likes fucking over set up mons

[foggy lodge]

Alluring voice>>>>>dazzling gleam

[atomic mural]

true

[molten oasis]

thats wild lmao

[foggy lodge]

For Indeedee tho not for something like Miraidon or Flutter lmao

[atomic mural]

miraidon gets alluring voice?

[foggy lodge]

Dazzling just feels so awful on not offensive mons

I also used dazzling gleam Geezing it was an abomination

[atomic mural]

strange steam for chance to confuse is so funny

[cyan smelt]

Alluring voice on dondozo is peak

[foggy lodge]

So far I've only had 1 importat strange steam miss that lost me a game

[atomic mural]

havent missed one that mattered inb my time pklaying weezing

[bold geode]

Ayo Mirai CIR ass

[foggy lodge]

yo CIR Mirai Kinda sucks

[atomic mural]

Ayo Mirai CiR ass

[forest arrow]

yo CIR Mirai Kinda sucks

[charred saddle]

another 1600

[fringe fossil]

https://pokepast.es/3074c11361cc519e
threw this together (CIR Mirai) im doin alr on it

[fringe fossil]

nice im like 1110 rn

[dense latch]

amoong and mirai seem very counterintuitive since terrain is just gonna block spore

that miraidon set is also questionable

why uturn over volt switch

[fringe fossil]

yea I havent brought him much i threw it together randomly just now

[fringe fossil]

if I remember when I made it I copied and pasted some sets from smogon

Ill probably make some edits tmr and change up some of the shit

[charred saddle]

oh btw reg I already announced?

[dense latch]

o yea dont ever use smogon for vgc

[dense latch]

yep

[fringe fossil]

word

any recs on where I should go for sample sets I can work off then?

[dense latch]

munchstats is pretty decent

[bold geode]

This is G correct

[charred saddle]

ye

[bold geode]

I was finna say like damn get a life

[charred saddle]

prob just people hoppping to I

[atomic mural]

highest bo3 reg I player at 1280 elo rn

[charred saddle]

my bro bob

https://pokepast.es/ccbd93dc3fe0d8ae

torkoal -> koraidon done.

oop nvm band

dont do it, its shit

[cyan smelt]

oh god has anyone seen the scream tail sprite

[charred saddle]

HAHAHAHAHAH

[solid frigate]

LMAO

[cyan smelt]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2332518827 guys i found wolfey's team

[atomic mural]

The sprites are just for April fools day right?

[atomic mural]

Which one is you

[cyan smelt]

neither

[bold geode]

Nah they're the new sprites

[atomic mural]

Ah

[charred saddle]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regi-2332523947-g07cldfte6b12ywwovjxcve5byx28yipw

bonk

[astral kelp]

LMAO WHAT

i need that

[charred saddle]

HAHAHAHAH I CANT

[astral kelp]

LMAO

PEAK'

where the family guy at

[cyan smelt]

try /afd on

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2332539870-u7twmympvhvwnmm2e8x9u2va751g5uupw

why did this work

lmao

HAHAHA

HITMONTOP IS SO GOOD

AHAHHAHAHA

[cyan smelt]

wtf why didn't they follow me tr

[astral kelp]

THESE ARE SO FUCKING GOOD

[astral kelp]

tbf wouldnt have mattered

omg they all have shiny forms

LOOOL

NOOO WHY

ALL OF THESE ARE GOOD

[cyan smelt]

i wish sandy shocks could learn weather ball

[lost sun]

I wish kyogre could

[cyan smelt]

true that would make it so good

[lost sun]

is there an attack like weather ball but for terrains instead

[astral kelp]

i wonder why it cant tbh

[cyan smelt]

terrain pulse

[tiny karma]

Sandy Shocks's moveset:

Physical Moves

Body Press, Body Slam, Bulldoze, Earthquake, Facade, Giga Impact, Heavy Slam, High Horsepower, Sand Tomb, Spark, Stomping Tantrum, Supercell Slam, Take Down, Wild Charge

Special Moves

Charge Beam, Discharge, Earth Power, Electro Ball, Electroweb, Flash Cannon, Hyper Beam, Mirror Coat, Mud Shot, Power Gem, Scorching Sands, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunder Shock, Thunderbolt, Tri Attack, Volt Switch, Zap Cannon

Status Moves

Charge, Eerie Impulse, Electric Terrain, Endure, Gravity, Iron Defense, Light Screen, Magnetic Flux, Metal Sound, Protect, Reflect, Rest, Sandstorm, Screech, Sleep Talk, Spikes, Stealth Rock, Substitute, Sunny Day, Supersonic, Thunder Wave

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Sandy Shocks.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[lost sun]

oh it's only for arboliva

and it's line

[tiny karma]

Move: Terrain Pulse

Power doubles if the user is grounded and a terrain is active, and this move's type changes to match. Electric type during Electric Terrain, Grass type during Grassy Terrain, Fairy type during Misty Terrain, and Psychic type during Psychic Terrain.

Type

Normal

Category

Special

Power

50

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Pulse

Boosted by Mega Launcher.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[cyan smelt]

i'm seriously intrigued by utility umbrella araquanid now lmao

[astral kelp]

god this hurts my eyes

[lost sun]

I got a shiny dewpider

found it whilst looking for a shiny lapras

[lost sun]

tf is even that

[astral kelp]

april food command /afd

[cyan smelt]

no not the bees

[astral kelp]

csr looks like that only in game for some reason

GHOLDENGO IS SO GOOD

[cyan smelt]

what's whims again

[astral kelp]

bro got destroyed

[astral kelp]

kinda boring

mcdonalds iron crown

[cyan smelt]

i'm thinking of running groudon, smeargle, sandy shocks, caly-i, indeedee, iron crown and one other

[astral kelp]

seems like a decent trick room team

its just sandy shocks

what will you tun on him?

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 989: Sandy Shocks

Types

Electric/Ground

Abilities

Protosynthesis

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

85/81/97/121/85/101

Total

570

Sableye version 4.28.1

[cyan smelt]

gravity, volt switch, earth power

[astral kelp]

oh yeahhh i love gravity

[tiny karma]

- [Electric/Ground]

Immune

Electric

Resists (0.5x)

Flying, Poison, Rock, Steel

Neutral damage

Bug, Dark, Dragon, Fairy, Fighting, Fire, Ghost, Normal, Psychic, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Grass, Ground, Ice, Water

Type Notes

Electric-types cannot be paralyzed.
Ground-types take no damage from Sandstorm.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

actually not bad tera fire

[astral kelp]

letsd try make a reg i parabloic charge team

[mighty stump]

@rustic mountain got juice

[rustic mountain]

top 100 w/ csr zama

[rustic mountain]

whats the sauce or r u asking

[mighty stump]

wow who knew

thinking of a sauce

sending

pinged u

[astral kelp]

LMAO

dude im so shocked cetitan lived pure power regig

i dont understand why everything isnt getting one shot by this

no stab ig

[cyan smelt]

the team i built has a glaring dark weakness so idk what to do about that

[astral kelp]

peak

[molten oasis]

brother what is happening to your showdown

[astral kelp]

arent you running comfey?

[cyan smelt]

no

[astral kelp]

earthquake makes my entire screen explode

AJAHJAHAHAHAHA

id fall for that taunt

[brisk void]

should i run zamazenta with behemoth bash or heavy slam

[cyan smelt]

ok switched my team up a bit, it's now groudon, caly-i, indeedee, iron crown, urshifu single strike and sandy shocks

kinda want roaring moon instead of urshifu for tailwind in case i need to go fast

[astral kelp]

i dont even need to know what pokemon half of these are you just know its arubega

[astral kelp]

depends what you wanna hit

[cyan smelt]

is that reg i?

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2332584006

pressed 2 buttons and pray

[brisk void]

why

doesnt heavy slam do 120 max

and behemoth 110 consistant or smt

[astral kelp]

100

[cyan smelt]

other tera fairy legendaries are heavy and you won't do much with heavy slam to them

[brisk void]

oh alr

[astral kelp]

yeah personally i like behemoth more

[brisk void]

alright tyy

[cyan smelt]

and you ohko flutter with behemoth anyway

[brisk void]

i was learning more towards it anyway

what investments should i do?

[astral kelp]

i mean it all depends as well hahahah

https://munchstats.com/gen9vgc2025regg/1760/Zamazenta-Crowned
this site is amazing tho

AHAHAHAHAHAH

[cyan smelt]

does anyone know what speed lando usually hits?

oh are they max speed

[brisk void]

tyy

[cyan smelt]

ok time to test this hastily thrown together team lol

ok i'm liking it so far and haven't needed to bring caly-i

[mint void]

Max speed or arnd 135 frok.tang spread iirc

[cyan smelt]

do they run lorb or scarf?

[knotty mirage]

So reg I next month huh damn i guess i need to start building my team

I wonder then is miraidon currently the best restricted to be paired with caly ice ?

[cyan smelt]

ok i don't think this team is very good

already lost 4, not good

need to get rid of iron crown and shocks maybe

[astral kelp]

lmfao

i wonder what i can do with tina

it would be a decent trick room setter if it learnt it

[cyan smelt]

use origin form for levitate

walls caly-i and groudon

[astral kelp]

OH MY GOD