competitive_discussion

[foggy lodge]

oh 115 is perfect lol

It outspeeds scard Lando lol

[molten oasis]

oh sick

[foggy lodge]

Modest tho

[shadow wind]

Maybe I leave Armarouge out of the TW line

[foggy lodge]

115 speed in tailwind outspeeds scarf modest lando

[molten oasis]

who runs jolly lmao

[shadow wind]

Timid?

[foggy lodge]

no one

So yeah you pm don't lose anything

[molten oasis]

i meant timid

[shadow wind]

Armarouge and Bolt are the same speed

[analog flax]

hi guys, i was just playing pokémon sword and i came across a guy using mewtwo, for about 10 minutes i went back and forth with this dude bc he was recovering on every move, what am i supposed to do if that happens again y’all 😭

[chrome knot]

i wannna try kyogre zac pao ursh amoonguss whims

[next stump]

Taunt, poison, burn, hitting it with strong super effective damage

[shadow wind]

Or just wait for him to run out

[lofty tartan]

Why Whims in particular?

[chrome knot]

encore lightscreen

[lofty tartan]

Fair call

[chrome knot]

weather can just be play better

[lofty tartan]

I could be down with trying that out at the beginning of the format. See how it does

[analog flax]

could you give me some advice with my team then? i was using zacian, snorlax and charizard

the worst part is that i lost to that dude too, never been more salty in my life omg

[shadow wind]

Anyone got any ideas for what to add so I can beat Lando?

[next stump]

unfortunately i dont play single battles myself, so i cant give great advice

[next stump]

maybe this dude

[shadow wind]

It's an interesting idea

[next stump]

like icy wind/freeze dry/encore/protect

[shadow wind]

Yeah

Iron Jugulis might not be bad

Maybe I'm Jugulis pilled though

[cyan smelt]

Conner I mean corv walls it

[shadow wind]

Yeah but Corv has no good MU outside of Lando 😭

[molten oasis]

the ultimate iron fraud returns?

[chrome knot]

god i sure hope lando doesnt have any teammates

[chrome knot]

? mirai bundle is strong asf

[shadow wind]

Yeah real

[molten oasis]

when did bundle redeem itself?

[lofty tartan]

I'm a Jugs stan

[molten oasis]

i've heard nothing about mirai bundle recently, im either being gaslit or im out of the loop

[lofty tartan]

We'll run Mirai/Crown/Stuff

[molten oasis]

im not gonna think about that too hard

[shadow wind]

I could go icy wind flutter with something naturally faster

Although my AV slot is still open so now I'm in a pickle

[molten oasis]

im totally being gaslit

[shadow wind]

Nah

It's real

AV MOLTRES GALAR !!!

[cyan smelt]

What about that araquanid with utility umbrella lol

[solid frigate]

M I D

[shadow wind]

Nah Armarouge already got wide guard

Only reason trust

[solid frigate]

@atomic mural

[solid frigate]

did i hear mirai crown

[shadow wind]

Why does nothing resist poison ground 😭

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/corviknight-spin-spinny-rotate-rotating-gif-22752924

https://tenor.com/view/skarmory-gif-9585565

[shadow wind]

Alright alright

[cyan smelt]

Tera steel rotom?

[shadow wind]

How bout one that works 😭

[atomic mural]

araquanid you say?

[shadow wind]

I still have AV open

So I could probably use that for this

AV Wake?

[atomic mural]

wait utility umbrealla araquanid on a sun team goes crazy

[shadow wind]

I bet this thing still takes 50 from a -1 a lorb EP

[shadow wind]

Yeah there was a team at Brisbane that had it

Unfortunately the rest of the team was hot trash 😭

[solid frigate]

hitmonchan.

[shadow wind]

And SD Oger

Actually SD Oger isn't bad on that team

[solid frigate]

SD oger is fine

[shadow wind]

Helping hand jumpluff

[cyan smelt]

What's focus energy ogerpon like

[solid frigate]

but Hitmonchan is almost running Hitmontop's moveset

[shadow wind]

Yeah...

[charred saddle]

weezing levitate

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/ogerpon-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-revenge-kitikami-gif-12243515870181973761

[shadow wind]

If Wake is running AV I should probably not run draco huh

[atomic mural]

my team wont be hot trash

[shadow wind]

🙏

[atomic mural]

would araquanid with koraidon and lunala work or nah

[shadow wind]

-1 252+ SpA Life Orb Sheer Force Landorus Earth Power vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Assault Vest Walking Wake: 68-82 (39 - 47.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[solid frigate]

i mean

[shadow wind]

Nah Lunala likes to have wide guard

[solid frigate]

Wake always have good MU against Lando

unless Lando is Tera Water

[shadow wind]

Until they tera 😔

[cyan smelt]

something with grass knot then

[solid frigate]

nah Tera Ghost Lando or tera Poison Lando still should be fine,its just water makes it terrible

[solid frigate]

froggy time

[shadow wind]

Are we messing with this or is it hot garbonzo?

[atomic mural]

true

but it would be very funny

[solid frigate]

Specs Wake is the sauce tho

[shadow wind]

Ok well specs wake is all or nothin

[spiral ridge]

Dark Tera?

[charred saddle]

water tera specs is kinda nice haha

[spiral ridge]

Just to tank CSR?

[shadow wind]

Pretty much

[charred saddle]

i just saw the dmg potential for it, its crazy

[spiral ridge]

Does AV not make you tank it pretty well I have no idea it’s bulk

[solid frigate]

Specs Wake goes hard

I tested it even with Zacian Wake Lando Core,its solid

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 1009: Walking Wake

Types

Water/Dragon

Abilities

Protosynthesis

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

99/83/91/125/83/109

Total

590

Sableye version 4.28.1

[shadow wind]

It's still kinda eh

[cyan smelt]

joke pick, mesprit with grass knot

[spiral ridge]

Ah yeah not greaf

[rustic mountain]

yea im intrigued by it

[craggy dagger]

specs what-

[shadow wind]

Wake

[craggy dagger]

oh wake

[chrome knot]

https://pokepast.es/48b189bb452b227c

[rustic mountain]

[solid frigate]

Specs wake my beloved

[charred saddle]

yeah

water tera specs in sun hydro steam KOs CIR

[rustic mountain]

[chrome knot]

the humble tera water amoonguss

[rustic mountain]

almost everything wants to be water but the water type? nah that wants to be grass (not actually critiquing the tera choices)

[solid frigate]

without Tera CIR?

kewl

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/yoink-simpsons-homer-gif-24211693

[chrome knot]

go ahead

[lofty tartan]

[chrome knot]

:3

look at my team for next weeknd

[lofty tartan]

I was looking at Zacian and Kyogre single Res teams and a common theme between the two was definitely space for Pao/Ursh

[spiral ridge]

Ooo

[spiral ridge]

Lmfao

[chrome knot]

its my signature move

[spiral ridge]

Oh shit is there regional next weekend?

[chrome knot]

4 tera waters.....

[cyan smelt]

cool team em, gl

[chrome knot]

atlanta but, im going to toronto locals

so I can try and get my invite for their invitational

[solid frigate]

unless your name is the gen 9 restricteds

[spiral ridge]

Let’s fucking go MH title update and vgc to binge

[chrome knot]

ima aliar....

atlanta is in 2 weeks...

[spiral ridge]

You’ve ruined my next weekend

Lmao

[spiral ridge]

@molten oasis FUCK I SHOULDA KNOWN IT WAS FOUR CUS I LOVE THIS MEME

[molten oasis]

lmao

[craggy dagger]

[spiral ridge]

Know nothing of the characters but the girl is real af for that

4 do be on the wheel

For now it’s MH and yakuza with multiplayer sprinkled in heavily

[molten oasis]

im finishing up a sketch finally

[spiral ridge]

God I fucking love MH yakuza and the multiplayer games I’m playing

Oh and replaying HK in bed

I’ve bought the game so much

[molten oasis]

Hk is peak

[spiral ridge]

I’ve spent 100+$ on a 15$ game lmfao

[molten oasis]

theres a lot to do

[spiral ridge]

PC. 2 switches. Then gifts to friends

[molten oasis]

gotta share peak

[spiral ridge]

Only one has actually played through it

Others kinda just flopped

But hey one is more than enough it’s made me super happy

Also bought yakuza 0 for someone and they play sparingly but still brings me joy

Gift giving is peak

[nocturne holly]

I think ima make something with zama

[next stump]

in 20 hours we will have a new format announcement if they follow their normal schedule

might just be worth waiting

[molten oasis]

thats, a lot closer than i thought

[solid frigate]

i just wanna see the new banners for each reg

[lost sun]

I wanna see dres

so I can use this

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-i-like-your-funny-words-magic-man-gif-12132376810128560925

Pretty excited

[chrome knot]

ehehehe

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/fern-pout-frieren-anime-pout-gif-2036831695195685596

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-beyond-journeys-end-fern-hitting-stark-frieren-beyond-journeys-end-gif-12703889995200742968

[molten oasis]

fitting lol

[left bobcat]

Sandwiches

Parmesan

[nocturne holly]

Oh yeahhh hopefully it’s something good

[atomic mural]

Double restricted🙏

I pray

[bold geode]

Fuck you buddy

What's good

[torn parrot]

Anybody know the things that beat cir rain?

Kind of a cwazy hard combo

Asking for groudon master

[spiral ridge]

[spiral ridge]

Doing fine
Played mtg for first time in ages today felt good

[split cairn]

Do we have lickitung in SV?

Google says we do but i can’t find it anywhere

[cyan smelt]

actually thinking of playing cir rain

[lofty tartan]

Lickitung isn't in Gen 9, no

[split cairn]

Thank you, was looking for Pokémon that can take advantage of eviolite

[gentle crag]

arsh_nanda6319 has given 1 Gen Rep to dazedmika

[fringe fossil]

oh wow so I should hold off on planning a team to build in game

[bold geode]

Good to see you're doing well

[spiral ridge]

How you been all ok?

[left bobcat]

IS EVERYONE OK?

HERRO? OH SHIT THE FOLKS ARE DYING XERNEAS USE GEOMANCY

[mighty stump]

terrible

[shadow wind]

Back on the grind 😔

All pastes

[cyan smelt]

I should pull up all caly ice teams and see if I can get some inspiration

[shadow wind]

All these pastes are from worlds 2022

[cyan smelt]

Is that still relevant

[shadow wind]

For me it is

[cyan smelt]

Or is that for double res

[mighty stump]

run the 90% GXE team

[cyan smelt]

Is that the tang team

[shadow wind]

It's relevent for me right now even if it's double res

Cause I'm not caring about the specific team members

I care about the structure of the teams

[mighty stump]

omfg it got deleted

[shadow wind]

Wait actually?

[mighty stump]

they deleted the tweet

[shadow wind]

😭

But 90% gxe is so awesome

[mighty stump]

anw its Smeargle CIR with Min Speed Smeargle

[shadow wind]

Decor?

[mighty stump]

72-10 W/L

[shadow wind]

Man that's nuts

[mighty stump]

1st on Bo3 ladder

[cyan smelt]

I guess own tempo so you don't accidentally get speed boost from moody

[shadow wind]

Yes

People were running some weird sets at worlds

Ain't bro 60 speed?

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Pokémon No. 861: Grimmsnarl

Types

Dark/Fairy

Abilities

Prankster, Frisk, Pickpocket (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/120/65/95/75/60

Total

510

Sableye version 4.28.1

[shadow wind]

Wowza

[cyan smelt]

I saw a really interesting thing on bo1 ladder yesterday, tera electric porygon 2 with tbolt and ice beam

[mighty stump]

its boltbeam

[cyan smelt]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqVn35_ysbk

[cyan smelt]

watching that was really eye-opening, i need to watch more top players

[azure tapir]

Can someone explain to me how legendaries and paradox work in ranked? I read where only one is allowed but I just faced someone with legit 3 legendaries. Idk if I don't understand the regulation wording or what

[mighty stump]

You misunderstood the Regulation wording

Restricteds are box legendaries

There is a list.

[shadow wind]

Only one restricted, so box legendaries like Groudon or Kyogre

Legendaries like Landorus are fair play

[azure tapir]

So you can have legendaries but only 1 box legendary?

[mighty stump]

Yes. Refer to the Regulation list.

[cyan smelt]

what's with liquidation dozo?

[mighty stump]

No recoil + def drop chance

[cyan smelt]

interesting

doesn't matter as much if it's nerfed in sun too i guess

[astral kelp]

how would you guys improve this team

its kinda old but honestly out of all my teams this might be the least shit one

changing mons is on the table

[mighty stump]

step 1, replace Kyurem with a good restricted

kek

[astral kelp]

[shadow wind]

Really gottem with that one

[astral kelp]

kyurem lowkey good

ive been thinking about replacing torn with whimsy

i kinda hate how frail whimsy is tho

also no snowscape

i would love an encore user tho

hmmm

we cook sup[port dragonite

or i bring my favorite pokemon

the lad

[cyan smelt]

Kinda want to try caly ice, Indeedee, torkoal core with maybe smeargle and urshifu

[charred saddle]

swapkyurem and A9

[vocal plume]

Am I the only one who really likes Smeargle

Like i feel that would rock with that team

[cyan smelt]

decorate spam is never bad

[swift sleet]

is iron valiant better than roaring moon or what

and should i rapid strike urshifu or single strike

[vocal plume]

also still a way's away with my team. gotta sort out IVs and EVs

I was so lucky that the guy I was against had a... beyond sub-optimal team

[real prairie]

Oh how I want this to be real 🤣

Same vibes

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2331862014
now theres a REASON comfey is my favorite mopn

that game was interestiing lol

idk why he just put crescelia and spammed icy wind

[next stump]

https://x.com/johnnychiou36/status/1906618100377862335?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddfszOAZ6w

Johnny (@Johnnychiou36) on X

Apology Statement Regarding My 90 GXE Post (I got penalized) @Johnnychiou36
https://t.co/xLXBEAwSKG

X · Mar 31, 2025, 8:02 AM

LOL

he’d queue into himself

[real prairie]

For a ladder placement? 🤣

Lol

[astral kelp]

i just lost to an iron head close combat incineroar

i just never saw it coming

positioned things sooo badly against it

[foggy lodge]

lol is he one of this guys

I wonder who all this people are

RoadToAnaheim2025 is proman

Feministe Sanches is probably Alex Gómez

Fedecampo is FedeCampo lol

[cyan smelt]

i could only dream of 80% gxe

[real prairie]

One of them is probably Wolfe

[real prairie]

Also think he cheated in BO1 ladder, not BO3

[cyan smelt]

Actually I could only dream of 70% gxe

[astral kelp]

bro gave up easy

[astral kelp]

wait in showdown??

what an L

if you turn off allow spectate how do you even catch people doing that

[astral kelp]

officially goofy day

[vocal plume]

Even Sir Kier Starmer is getting involved

[bold geode]

Bruh ain't no way

[mint void]

Both answers depend on the rest of your team.

Roaring moon and Valiant do significantly different things on a team.

While both Urshifus grant different coverage options

[grizzled island]

I found this i hate people and wanna troll strategy for competitive, where you use one legendary that has explode and the psychic bug that can't get hit by your teams attacks but and revives the legendary that explodes and then has other pokémon that can revive it.

How would one deal with a team like that?

[charred saddle]

just protect

ghost type/tera

or resist typing to normal ie steel

[astral kelp]

you mean azelf and the revive bug

thats such a shit team LOL

[grizzled island]

Yeah that one

I saw it on tiktok lol

[astral kelp]

literally just press protect and their day is ruined

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2310129255

[mint void]

U didnt even explode

[mighty stump]

PSA the 90% GXE player was apparently account boosting

lmfao

[astral kelp]

ik thats why its so funny

[mint void]

We saw

[mighty stump]

That’s so L

[mint void]

Cringe

[mighty stump]

Anyways i’m up against Pengy

for NPAA playoffs

[molten oasis]

someone hit 90% gxe?

[mint void]

Like do w/e but the bragging makes it cringe

[mighty stump]

soemoen boosted

[molten oasis]

damn

good luck with NPAA

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2331965709

holy that game held by a thread

49% chance of winning at the end

my god why does comfey feel SO MUCH better than tornados

prolly because i like them so much personally but godamn what a cool pokemon

[molten oasis]

[real prairie]

Fuck Yo' Turtle
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2331972915

[bold geode]

Fert bubbles LMAO

[molten oasis]

Simple beam calm mind Pagos is crazy work

[bold geode]

LMAO
I remember Simple Beam DozoGiri

And Simple Beam Clangorous Souls Kommo-O

[nocturne holly]

did they post the new ruleset announcement

I’m so excited for Pokémon champions

[vocal plume]

For sv

?

[nocturne holly]

Yea

[vocal plume]

I'm assuming Reg F

[solid frigate]

did they?

[vocal plume]

It was Reg H before Reg G so I think they are going back down the regs

[solid frigate]

Nah double res

Double res would be the most logical

[vocal plume]

I guess

[nocturne holly]

I’m not sure they did yet

[vocal plume]

They haven't I can confirm

I mean this reg was adding Koraidon and Miraidon so next is probs double res

[next stump]

about 8 more hours until we should know

[nocturne holly]

Hope it’s double restricted

thinking about what to use

[real prairie]

im really hoping its not

give me Monotype or No Tera

[chrome knot]

??

two very uncompetitive formats bruh

[real prairie]

fun though

well monotype is a bit more fun

no tera idk

[chrome knot]

xd

would like for it to be competitive > fun for an official circuit i fear

[real prairie]

meh, depends on your definition of competitive, think open creativity is more competitive.

[chrome knot]

I do not believe monotype or no tera would offer more than naturally progressing to double restricted

[real prairie]

thinking more, don't think No tera offers much other than reducing the usage of some restricted.

[vocal plume]

Kinda want to use Korai and Zama

[real prairie]

monotype could be fun

[chrome knot]

monotype will just be gambling

[bold geode]

Stimky 🫵

[real prairie]

Mono-water team ready https://pokepast.es/005e0932e0b351ae

[astral kelp]

Why do people use mienshao over hitmontop

[real prairie]

inner focus

can't stop it from wide guarding

[astral kelp]

With an insane move pool like hitmontop and mienshao I feel like I would want the tankier option that has fucking jntimidate

[astral kelp]

But you can also just one shot it it's so squishy

[real prairie]

thus it runs sash

[astral kelp]

Eh I guess

[real prairie]

and since it parterns with CSR, it only needs 1 turn

[astral kelp]

It's just intimidate is soooo fucking good

[astral kelp]

Oh I guess if you just need 1 turn of wide guard

But why not just hitmontop with covert cloak

[real prairie]

probably wanting to cloak whimsicott

[astral kelp]

Hitmontop is quite tánky you can run 252 hp 252 spd and intimidate will do the rest

[astral kelp]

Oh Ic so mienshao if you have sash available and hitmontop if you have cloak available

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 237: Hitmontop

Type

Fighting

Abilities

Intimidate, Technician, Steadfast (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

50/95/95/35/110/70

Total

455

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

ANOTHER another thing I don't get

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 620: Mienshao

Type

Fighting

Abilities

Inner Focus, Regenerator, Reckless (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

65/125/60/95/60/105

Total

510

Sableye version 4.28.1

[real prairie]

Mienshao is faster and hits harder too

[astral kelp]

I guess

Specially since you'd go max speed and atk on it

[real prairie]

both are sash fiends though

[astral kelp]

So hitmontop is for slower teams and mienshao faster teams too

[real prairie]

hitmontop low HP is a big L

[astral kelp]

Does top need sash?

50 hp is pretty low that's true

Intimidate and 110 spd make it tánky since you always want 252 hp

But yeah I don't get why people go max speed max spa on whimsy

[real prairie]

sash whims do

[astral kelp]

Nah but even cloak whims does

[real prairie]

not good ones lol

[astral kelp]

For sash yeah obviously but cloak??

It's like more common percentage based

[astral kelp]

Okay good I thought I was crazy

So it's like 4am and my imsomnia ass can't stop thinking about shit like that

So last one
Quick guard or upper hand?

Upper hand won me a game once but quick guard can block double priorities sometimes

Cuz upper hand is really good into like chien pao sucker punch when sashed for example

60 stab damage isn't bad either

But if opp has inner focus or cloak specifically

Can't stop fake out + armor tail tho hm

[real prairie]

Both are BO1 strategies at best

Who is this on btw?

[astral kelp]

Either

[real prairie]

feint is better and more consistent

breaks protect and has priority

[astral kelp]

I guess yeah

Feint is really good

Fake out is so disgusting it just feels so nice to have a way to easily stop it

[real prairie]

but really... its fake out, wide guard, close combat, protect

[astral kelp]

Really protect?

[real prairie]

if you really wanted to go ultra offensive you drop protect for feint

protect is almost always necisary on sash mon

[astral kelp]

Hm it is really nice to have

Mienshao definitevly

Sleep time I thank thee

[astral kelp]

Thank you

[gentle crag]

k4x1 has given 1 Gen Rep to oneofakindof

[astral kelp]

Rep time

[real prairie]

anytime... but fuck me go get some sleep

[timber falcon]

does double restricted start tomr? Or should i continue my reg G team

[real prairie]

something is announced soon, wont start for a month-ish

[timber falcon]

alr thanks for the info

[nocturne holly]

haven’t got the announcement yet but should be soon

[shadow wind]

It’ll be out on showdown though as soon as we know

[languid ocean]

So I have an offical tornament locally I wanted to join as a first timer, and I really wanted to make Necrozma-DW work somehow. Here's a current draft of my team:
https://pokepast.es/25f597e288c32251

It's using Reg G and is BO3; not looking to finish top cut or anything though

I had a quick writeup for my thought process I might be wrong on this so I'm looking for some thoughts. https://docs.google.com/document/d/12r-Q-hog3ExFtaqLRiuV5lR-U2aF64wW_H_9lY1oqhc/edit?usp=sharing

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Pokémon No. 1024: Terapagos

Type

Normal

Abilities

Tera Shift

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/65/85/65/85/60

Total

450

Other Formes

Terapagos-Terastal, Terapagos-Stellar

Sableye version 4.28.1

Pokémon No. 1024: Terapagos-Stellar

Type

Normal

Abilities

Teraform Zero

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

160/105/110/130/110/85

Total

700

Base Species

Terapagos

Sableye version 4.28.1

[nocturne holly]

how the hell did that terapagos outspeed my miraidon

[mint void]

Tailwind?

[nocturne holly]

It’s 252spe

[mint void]

Trick Room?

[nocturne holly]

no tw nothing

[mint void]

Icy wind?

[nocturne holly]

no

[mint void]

After You?

[nocturne holly]

o wait nvm I think it used ability

agility

[mint void]

WHAT?

[nocturne holly]

Or shell smash

[mint void]

share the game

[tiny karma]

[Latest Gen] Terapagos

Shell Smash:

• Terapagos does not learn Shell Smash in Generation 9

Sableye version 4.28.1

[mint void]

It doesnt learn either bro

[nocturne holly]

it used rock polish

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Sableye version 4.28.1

[nocturne holly]

umbrella lowk underrated

https://pokepast.es/d7bfbe58ad0c8270 last time I played this team was like 2-3 months ago I think some of the spreads are outdated

[solid frigate]

mmmmmm it wasn't that bad

but NDW without Protect is Iffy

+I did try NDW,i can make a team for it rn?

[languid ocean]

I'd like to see some additional teams for reference if you don't mind! I checked NDW teams on the vgcpastes repo and a lot of them looks like hard TR teams

was originally thinking of using a Power Herb instead of Safety Goggles to let me get a +1 from Meteor Beam but I'd risk getting Spore'd (although Tera Grass might work to counter that)

[dense latch]

https://pokepast.es/0c0d57e33ffa31a3 this team got to top 32 in last weekend's brisbane regionals

dawn wings is definitely better for hard tr, lunala is better for a softer trick room team

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/d11984d8dc74c678

I gone for a more Hard TR aspect of the team,basically rely on Sun+Hands to set up TR,oh and i added Calm Mind NDW just because i was working on that

(I can't really rely on Hisuian Lilligant but Ogerpon can be replaced by her is ok

https://pokepast.es/9159bef478932185

Lillikoal version

[unkempt flax]

Aren’t we supposed to get the new rule set rules today

Or is that next month?

[next stump]

should be in 5 hours and 38 minutes if they stick to their normal pattern

[languid ocean]

Iron Head Urshifu huh, interesting

[unkempt flax]

At 6pm my time, hm.. thought it was 12pm

[next stump]

CST gang rise up

[languid ocean]

that looks pretty good, im guessing speed IVs dont matter on hands?

[solid frigate]

its Choice Band so yyeah

[solid frigate]

you can make it slower to make Iron Hands Faster than Hard TR CIR in TR

[languid ocean]

I see, thanks!

[next stump]

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X · Mar 31, 2025, 5:17 PM

[solid frigate]

hmmmmm

nah i can't even join

[left bobcat]

Good

[craggy dagger]

[left bobcat]

Wha

[timber falcon]

Thoughts in feint maushold?

id like to make a bulky redirection set for it, with feint just in case

also, what are some nice fast tempo mons that dont require set up?

[solid frigate]

FLutter Mane?

[timber falcon]

forgot about flutter

[forest arrow]

Hopefully 3 and half hours and we get the news

[real prairie]

That might be me, need to check flights

[real prairie]

Expect 4 and a half hours, as GMT changed to BST

[torn parrot]

I think that this’ll be the first month I don’t do a masterball climb

Realized if im not having fun i should keep doing other things

Instead of clinging because obligation

[lost sun]

what time is it changing

[left bobcat]

They hating but they broke tho

[solid frigate]

tbf reg G is almost over and i rather prepare for future regs

[torn parrot]

I don’t know that I wanna play double restricted

I’m kinda bored of gen 9

[solid frigate]

unless its regional/national dex?

[torn parrot]

Huh?

[solid frigate]

nvm

i'll just cooking on miraidon kyogre

[torn parrot]

I’m just bored the game Iv done this for every reg 27 seasons

Tired

No motivation

[solid frigate]

fair

maybe my comeback is in reg I who knows idk

[torn parrot]

Plus I gotta focus on life n stuff

Rank 1 was a good place to end Gen 9 I think

[solid frigate]

fair

meanwhile what i am doing

[torn parrot]

Hope it’s fun

Thunder Miraidon

[solid frigate]

yeah it feels logical to run AV Kyogre here

[torn parrot]

Yeah it sounds cool

I’m looking forward to legends za

[solid frigate]

Mega Greninja kek

||Sadly no Mega Meowstic||

i want mega meowstic

[real prairie]

It changed yesterday

[solid frigate]

huh?

[solid frigate]

new info?

[real prairie]

The time in the UK lol

[left bobcat]

If singles and doubles all got along they probably-

[lost sun]

goated image

[lost sun]

av kyogre?

avalanche ?

[left bobcat]

Momma

[bold geode]

I need you to cook bullshit ngl

[molten oasis]

What lmao

[bold geode]

You heard me

[forest arrow]

Hey babe

[left bobcat]

Well I’m no sure how one can cook bull feces

[fringe fossil]

Put this together at 2 am last night thoughts on this setup? im new to vgc but I thought id try my hand at a double restricted team for the next reg if it is
https://pokepast.es/2b106e708b9ac4ea

[solid frigate]

w h y

[solid frigate]

ehhh passible

[lost sun]

what's av kyogre

[left bobcat]

Assault vest

[solid frigate]

the thing that azumarill is wearing

[left bobcat]

Assault vest Kyogre

[lost sun]

slap it on your neighbours air fryer

[left bobcat]

The fit 🔥🔥

[lost sun]

ah

[left bobcat]

Who ever taking the selfie needs to learn from that azumarill teach em how to dress better

[lost sun]

fr

AV azu with no attacking moves gonna be meta

[left bobcat]

Struggle

[solid frigate]

252+ SpA Life Orb Tera Fire Beads of Ruin Volcarona Helping Hand Overheat vs. 212 HP / 4 SpD Tera Fire Calyrex-Ice in Sun: 259-305 (128.2 - 150.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[left bobcat]

Little too much don’t you think?

[solid frigate]

should be good enough

[real prairie]

suprised it still only does 128.2

[solid frigate]

its CIR so

[real prairie]

just seen the mega leaks...|| not a single new Hoenn mon 😭 ||

[left bobcat]

Actually that’s just sad

[real prairie]

was hoping for ||Flygon ||at the minimum

[atomic mural]

||why not flygon||

[atomic mural]

does chi yu get helping hand?

[left bobcat]

Isn’t flygon also HOEnn?

[atomic mural]

yes

[left bobcat]

So like-

Like why would like flygon like get like a like mega like evolution like that just like doesn’t make like sense

[atomic mural]

thats a lot of likes

[left bobcat]

Like but like fr

[molten oasis]

My interest in the game is gone

[left bobcat]

What if-

What if we get new regi

[lost sun]

0/10 game

[torn parrot]

Okay you saying this made me do my masterball climb

https://tenor.com/view/wiggly-wigglytuff-pukurin-pokemon-プクリン-gif-8938451598909480693

I’ll stick around I’m not done yet

[left bobcat]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2332278244

im liking this new team of mine

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2332281246-pox745ijc8rhl2494044g9tpur5cf4gpw

hmmm i still miss my haze option but oh well

[molten oasis]

I cannot believe this card exists it’s so funny

[foggy lodge]

Its so fucking cool

[torn parrot]

When I saw this I kinda thought the leakers were trolling lol

[molten oasis]

Can’t wait to pull that card

[foggy lodge]

@torn parrot you have to make Zamazenta Zacian great

Or Kyogre Groudon

https://pokepast.es/6af4d88e3c36d843

Fuck it

[real prairie]

Scarf Kyogre with iron ball Groudon incoming 💪🏼

[left bobcat]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2332289955

I like how yesterday I said I made a miraidon team with rilla simply because I hate psychic terrain now im back to using it

[molten oasis]

Not the solar beam CSR lmao

[left bobcat]

hey ive seen tera bug life orb pollen puff

so anything goes

[atomic mural]

Nah that’s heat

[left bobcat]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2332298340

man this was definetly the easiest match ever

they set up the psychic terrain for me, no incin, no weather control

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/woomy-looking-up-shaky-gif-13445926

[split cairn]

Is the new regulation details out?

[left bobcat]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2332300178-wq2yx43a5i5lccwue7nklbu818n807opw

oh yes this team is definitely- almost the same as my lunala team

[forest arrow]

I think someone said another hour

[molten oasis]

Dammit

I need reg I NOW

[atomic mural]

me too

[lapis igloo]

Where do they normally post regulation changes

[lost sun]

I hope it is d res

[forest arrow]

Could be Reg H with paradox you never know, could be anything

[molten oasis]

Wait yea that could be interesting

No home legendaries

Bolt and flutter would be so broken

GREAT TUSK COULD COME BACK

[forest arrow]

Yeah could be fun

hopefully in 30 minutes

[astral kelp]

Yea I got chronic imsomnia irs even pretty bad

WHAT'S WHAT THAT'S AWESOME

[real prairie]

I think I may have a solution

[molten oasis]

Yea those would have been really cool designs

Those mons being part of the same evo line makes no sense

[solid frigate]

gun

[astral kelp]

Imagine you're in the pokemon league with your weedle and they pull ouy the fucking fish gun and fucking kill your weedle

[astral kelp]

Didn't work now 8 have brain damage

Oh yea we gotta have that rematch completely forgot about it

[real prairie]

No drama, I've been really demotivated on competitive ATM. Team feels stagnant with the change in the meta to hard TR

Let's play tomorrow

[astral kelp]

Sure

[real prairie]

Sorry about the delay

[astral kelp]

No stress

Really not a big deal were doing this for fun anyways

[astral kelp]

Yknow one thing I'm thinking about

If all my pokemon get out speed and one shot by scar kyogre water spout wtf do I do

My guess is just build a better team lmao

[real prairie]

Should have new regulation news in 6 mins

[astral kelp]

Hype

What if they nope us and it's not double restricted

I think comfey can priority chunk oger for at least 30ish percent hp

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/tsareena-hair-flip-gif-22673778

[left bobcat]

Damn I threw up

I cant go back to class

[astral kelp]

Aah shit true I always forget tsarene

I know turtoo can live a hit but I'm going like 20spa so it won't do shit

Rilla maybe

[real prairie]

Maybe hold your cards close til tomorrow

I don't know your team well, that'll be your upside

[astral kelp]

Fair nuff lol

[solid frigate]

meanwhile me:Made my Miraidon team to just even moe TW mode

[astral kelp]

Hahaha maybe

[lost sun]

shame now u will have to go home for the new reg

[molten oasis]

2 minutes remain

[astral kelp]

Yeah honestly it kinda sucks when you can't stop trick room

[lost sun]

predict they set up TR and setup Ur own

[astral kelp]

Like I run taunt and shit but if they just follow me trick room there's nothing you can do

Ig imprison

[solid frigate]

or just taunt it

[lost sun]

is the reg out immediately

[dense latch]

reg i comes out in may

[lost sun]

says it ends in an hour

[left bobcat]

Damn haven’t threw up since 2 summers ago and that was at home

[foggy lodge]

its just the announcement lol

[dense latch]

the season ends but not the regulation

[left bobcat]

Now I threw up at the worst time possible

[lost sun]

ah

thought it would be when the season ends

[real prairie]

So what's Reg I then?

What's the news

[astral kelp]

Wheres the announcement?

Didn't you say in 2 minutes?

[lost sun]

what's the announcement on

[next stump]

fuckkkk was there some time change shit that fucked it up

[molten oasis]

Is it in an hour were we off

[lost sun]

no that's just when the season ends

[real prairie]

Damn it, I called it earlier too

[astral kelp]

Omg what if funny April fools joke

[molten oasis]

Why wouldn’t that announcement come out when the new season starts

[astral kelp]

They just edging us

[molten oasis]

[dense latch]

was reg h announced on a 31st too?

[molten oasis]

I think so

[real prairie]

Should listen to myself

[molten oasis]

Lmfao

One more hour is okay

[lost sun]

wheres the announcement gonna be

in game?

[real prairie]

Not when it's midnight and you have work at 8am 😭

[real prairie]

Yeah on cart I believe

In the news section

[lost sun]

reloaded it twice nothing shows

[molten oasis]

You’ll be fine

[solid frigate]

nothing yet

[molten oasis]

Another hour we must wait

[forest arrow]

double res!!!

https://x.com/serebiinet/status/1906847056511005080?s=12&t=gEcvvuDLBwqjwOC0yfoRYg

Serebii.net (@SerebiiNet) on X

Serebii Update: The Pokémon Scarlet & Violet Ranked Battle Regulation I ruleset has been officially revealed. Allows for up to 2 Restricted Pokémon

Runs from May 2025 through August 2025

Details being added @ https://t.co/NWlAdn57aQ

X · Mar 31, 2025, 11:12 PM

LunaDon it’s time

[solid frigate]

here we go.

MiraiOgre time

https://tenor.com/view/miraidon-pokemon-pokemon-miraidon-gif-749037957144138891

[foggy lodge]

Damn that banner is not cool

Reg G's banner looked better😔

[molten oasis]

ITS DOUBLE RES

[solid frigate]

the banner is suprisingly shiny lmao

[lofty tartan]

Just makes sense. Good to see it confirmed.

[molten oasis]

Zacogre here I come

[forest arrow]

Tera fighting Kirai gross

Scrap the banner

[foggy lodge]

Imagine if they put tera fire Koraidon and tera fairy Miraidon instead

[forest arrow]

Would’ve definitely looked better imo

[solid frigate]

gonna have to test 6 pairs

[atomic mural]

YESSS

[forest arrow]

I knew they would last year they posted same time at 6:11pm for me

This time is was 6:12pm but roughly same time

So we just had to give them 10 mins

[lost sun]

kyogaidon gonna be meta fr

[real prairie]

Ew

Scarf Miraidon CIR incoming

[next stump]

wtf is coming after it in august???

[dense latch]

triple restricted

[molten oasis]

Reg h

[real prairie]

Double restricted til champions

[forest arrow]

Some people were talking about reg h but with paradoxes

[real prairie]

Some were saying reg H no tera too

[forest arrow]

Probably all just theory at the end of the day

Guess we won’t know til it comes

[real prairie]

@solid frigate you running thunder Miraidon yeah?

[solid frigate]

Miraiogre yeah

[real prairie]

I may join you

Scarf ogre + specs Miraidon sounds like a laugh

[solid frigate]

i run AV Ogre for Damage Trades

[lofty tartan]

Baby League

[nocturne holly]

r we in double restricted

[molten oasis]

I shall present the things I test with
https://pokepast.es/5331de4f8bce2f33

https://pokepast.es/adb33177548ee2d4

https://pokepast.es/4c8cb2568cccfd12

[nocturne holly]

HELL no

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/a-series-of-unfortunate-events-asoue-neil-patrick-harris-count-olaf-if-i-were-standing-closer-to-you-gif-3525257467704725849

[nocturne holly]

I was thinking bout kyogre zac too

why are you running iron head over behemoth blade
for flinch?

[lofty tartan]

Emmy and I are already on ZacOgre

[bold geode]

Ummmmm
Electric Boogaloo

[tranquil kraken]

how we feeling abt new reg yall

[lofty tartan]

It's as expected.

[nocturne holly]

zama mirai??

[cyan smelt]

I don't know what to use

[nocturne holly]

or Zama ogre

[lofty tartan]

Zacian threatens things that threaten Kyogre better than Zama does, I feel.

[nocturne holly]

yeah

also did tofu leave the server

[molten oasis]

Iron head gets you bblade when ir shifts into crowned form

[lofty tartan]

🤷

[molten oasis]

Zama ogre seems kinda shit into Mirai ngl

Zacogre covers the dragon issues kyogre has better

[bold geode]

Zam CSR
Mirai CIR
These are the two main cores that will dominate HARD early on
Maybe HO stuff like Korai CSR
But Zam CSR or Mirai CIR imo are really the only two that have a chance to win first regional cuz idt the other cores will be established enough to beat those fucking behemoths

[nocturne holly]

is sd zac dead

[lofty tartan]

Yeah I can align with that.

[molten oasis]

No

[forest arrow]

Bro forgot LunaDon

[bold geode]

But after first regional shit will fall right into place

[molten oasis]

There’s more room for sd now that you get 2 big guys

[lofty tartan]

Monke doesn't know.

[bold geode]

Even that idts tbh

[molten oasis]

I think korai Lunala/csr seems strong too

[bold geode]

I know
I just don't think it'll have enough
I mean we're talking about especially Mirai CIR
A fucking strongarm

[dense latch]

pretty excited to try mirai cir

[molten oasis]

Yk what’s good into Mirai CIR

[bold geode]

I just think those 2 cores will just be better at first event due to being carried by early meta
Then after that things get established and then you see more Zac Ogre
LunaDon
Yada yada

[molten oasis]

Watch something out of nowhere win the first regional

[bold geode]

Not saying they'll be bad
I just don't think they're regional winning right away
Usually something unexpected gets it but I think these 2 duos are actually now just way too strong

[nocturne holly]

What are some cir answers

[molten oasis]

Urshifu

Incin

[solid frigate]

Hands

[lofty tartan]

On day -30 you say things like this every time and you get blindsided. Too early to call - only a few small tournaments have happened thus far.

And some of those small tournaments saw weird things going undefeated.

[bold geode]

Yeah I mean it's just matter of opinion tbh
This time I'm not gonna be mad or anything if I'm proven wrong

[lofty tartan]

That's good

[bold geode]

It's just like
Already you have these titans y'know

Honestly I think Koraidon Lunala can be on the same level as Mirai CIR or Zam CSR
The benefits are MASSIVE

[lofty tartan]

There's this Zacian/Miraidon team that went 9-1

And a Zac/Lunala team that went 8-0

Another Zac/Mirai at 8-0

[solid frigate]

Zac Mirai is nice

[bold geode]

That sounds weird tbh

[lofty tartan]

Zama/CSR at 7-1

Groudon/Miraidon 7-1. That's neat

[bold geode]

Thing is the Zac duos you mentioned seem to more follow a more hyper offensive style maybe idk
Haven't seen the full 6 but like
That will definitely change as time goes on

[molten oasis]

Yk

[real prairie]

Think single target Mon + Lunala will win the first regional

Wide guard stocks on the up

[molten oasis]

My issue with zacogre is zamaCSR wide guarding kyogres attacks and CSR spamming

But Mirai nukes both

[real prairie]

And that's why we run hydro pump

[molten oasis]

Yea I’m good on missing hydro pump

[bold geode]

See my thing is like
There's other tools that help with that
Like Scarf Ursh

[real prairie]

No different than missing origin pulse

[solid frigate]

ehhhh most of the restricted pairs would be like

Aoe+Aoe
Aoe+Single Target
Aoe+Wide Guard
Single Target+Single target

[molten oasis]

I feel like scarf urshifu wants farigiraf or multiple fake out mons

[bold geode]

Eeeeeeeeeeeeesshhhhhhh
Not necessarily?

[molten oasis]

Scarf shifu just get kinda cycled otherwise

[molten oasis]

I’m speaking from experience

Scarf shifu never felt that good

[bold geode]

I mean just Ghost that bitch now
You got Rain boosting LOL

[lofty tartan]

That's what I'm saying - too early to say anything definitively lol

[real prairie]

Why some people run it tera ghost

[molten oasis]

Especially considering a lot of plays you can make is incin/rilla+CSR lead then the bear explodes

[bold geode]

Yeah
I think in general and like this is kinda no shit Sherlock
Format is gonna be around making most value out of what you pair

[molten oasis]

And in the context of playing zacian positioning that and scarf shifu is fucking annoying

[bold geode]

Yeah but like
Point is there's probably ways around

[molten oasis]

Not enough for me to warrant going scarf ursh

Plus I use urshifu as an anti CIR Mon it does that job worse as a scarf Mon

[solid frigate]

i mean TW moment

[bold geode]

1. Doing better into literally one of the top contenders
2. Kyogre has a decent MU into Ice Rider don't it?

[molten oasis]

Click tw yiu don’t outspeed zacian

[bold geode]

At most you worry about Miraidon

[torn parrot]

I like vgc more than card games I’m ngl

It is nice to have a break for now tho

Reg I is neat as we expected it would be

[molten oasis]

:/

[torn parrot]

Card games are so luck dependent

[molten oasis]

I didn’t say anything, I’m not using scarf shifu dude it feels so clunky in my hands

[bold geode]

I'm just giving like my thoughts
How you build is up to you

[molten oasis]

Pao is my anti CSR Mon

[lofty tartan]

There's a lot of skill involved. You can say "luck" really easily because you're drawing cards at random, but it's what you do with the tools available to you that separates skilled from otherwise.

[nocturne holly]

ong

do u play tcgp

[solid frigate]

its a wall

It tanks 3 Glacial Lances before goes down

AV Kyogre stonks would be wild

[molten oasis]

I don’t use shifu as an anti CSR Mon due to it just, not really liking CSR even WITH scarf

[torn parrot]

You can also get no cards and then you have to forfeit because they just kill your only basic

[molten oasis]

I think it’s fine with peli

[lofty tartan]

If you're talking about TCGPocket, it only half counts as a TCG lol

That game is a mockery of the actual Pokemon TCG

[molten oasis]

I don’t necessarily agree with it working on kyogre

[lofty tartan]

Personally I'm talking about 3 different TCG games and none of them are TCG Pocket.

[molten oasis]

Think you have to go tsareena kyo shifu torn Zac+1 which has issues as a core imo

[bold geode]

Honestly I might fuck with Korai Lunala just cuz why not

[molten oasis]

Plus Yk how I play, I like protect

[torn parrot]

damnit 😭
At first I was exclusively hating on tcg pocket
But then the tcg pocket community said all tcgs have the same amount of luck dependency as pocket

Now you here saying the opposite of what they said

So like shit

[molten oasis]

Scarf mons don’t click with me, I do get why people run scarf it’s just not what I prefer

[bold geode]

I think Zac Ogre is gonna be more offensive anyways

[lofty tartan]

Good lord no. And it's not a luck dependancy, really. These modern TCG games have multitudes of ways to "tutor" cards out when you need them and find the pieces you're looking to assemble.

[cyan smelt]

if i play vgc or if i play tcg pocket i'm still getting my ass whooped by some cracked japanese player

[solid frigate]

AV Kyogre technically helps against CIR cuz like you can't run Tera Water Safely

[molten oasis]

I think most duos will be like this

[bold geode]

Eh maybe not Zam CSR?

I think that one might be an even mix

[torn parrot]

Iv been having a bad view of card games because tcg pocket barely gives you any control strategically and you can get blown up by a misty card before you even get a turn

But I apreciate you telling me otherwise

[molten oasis]

Zama wide guard spams/kills dark types pretty fast then CSR sets a nasty plot and everything dies

[lofty tartan]

Yeah TCG Pocket is meant to be fast and lowers the skill barrier by adding luck-based mechanics. Coin flips are almost entirely absent from the real Pokemon TCG at this point

[bold geode]

Yeah but that one probably has more chances for a decent amount of defensive qualities

[nocturne holly]

anyone have a kyogre spread

[molten oasis]

I feel like zama CSR games will end in like 4-6 turns

I do think it’s a little slower but still pretty fast

[solid frigate]

AV?

[lofty tartan]

And in other games there are no coin flips.

[bold geode]

CSR kinda fits on like everything and Zam just gets slapped on

[molten oasis]

Mirai also fits on most things

[torn parrot]

This what I kept saying but tcg pocket players gaslighted me 😭 they’d get angry at me

[foggy lodge]

Funnily

[nocturne holly]

prob not I’m thinking of using bolt too

[foggy lodge]

The world champion's deck had a lot of luck based cards lol

[lofty tartan]

Yeah you dared to question them lol

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/5331de4f8bce2f33 I still think this could be gas

[solid frigate]

Kyogre @ Assault Vest
Ability: Drizzle
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 236 HP / 100 Def / 156 SpA / 4 SpD / 12 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Ice Beam
• Water Spout
• Origin Pulse
• Thunder

Thunder Stonks when CIR is mostly tera Water be like

[molten oasis]

Although I’ll probably end up on zacogre eventually

[foggy lodge]

There is this hammer that flips a coin and if it heads you discard an energy card of your opponent's pokemon

[dense latch]

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X · Apr 1, 2025, 12:00 AM

[lofty tartan]

Crushing Hammer and Pokemon Catcher are basically relics of the past. They're two of the ONLY card flip mechanics still in actual PTCG

[astral kelp]

Has it been a announced yet?

[molten oasis]

Oh the server icon changed

[lofty tartan]

Additionally, if Catcher DIDN'T have a coin flip mechanic attached to it, it would be legit busted.

[unkempt flax]

Any news on ruleset change?

[lofty tartan]

An item to force your opponent to switch and it's your choice is so powerful they made it as an ACE-SPEC

[molten oasis]

It’s confirmed double res

[unkempt flax]

Are we certain?

[molten oasis]

Yes

[lofty tartan]

Yes

It was an official announcement

[foggy lodge]

Oh yeah I forgot catcher

[lost sun]

yes

[astral kelp]

I'm shocked truly lmfao

[foggy lodge]

I thought crushing hammer was not used that much

[lofty tartan]

It isn't.

[unkempt flax]

Can you link it? I can’t find it

[astral kelp]

Man 8 have no idea how to build for double restricted

[foggy lodge]

But yeah it both cards would be broken if they didn't have the coin flip

[lofty tartan]

Tyranitar - the worlds winning deck, had a lot of things surrounding it that even PUT it there.

[astral kelp]

Maybe lunala stuff

[unkempt flax]

Because if this is true, I am gonna try building my 2019 Necrozma Kyogre team

[lofty tartan]

The person piloting Thorns LOST their top 8 match

Someone was disqualified and they were moved back in

[next stump]

https://victoryroad.pro/2022/08/22/worlds-results/

take a look at the last double restricted format

[solid frigate]

F

[foggy lodge]

Yeah Ian Robb

[next stump]

it's typically dominated by just offense

[unkempt flax]

Last double format wouldn’t be a great choice tho

[solid frigate]

2022 Worlds be like

Zacian spam

[molten oasis]

Zacian gets a little better

But not to that level

[unkempt flax]

Last format that had double restrictions had dynamax, and some legends were better than others with it

[solid frigate]

Kyogre would be relatively the same honestly

so does Groudon

[lost sun]

imagine if spout worked based off Ur normal hp amount so having dmax would make it go past 150 power

[solid frigate]

god no that would just be annoying

[nocturne holly]

zac mirai is gonna be strongggg

[lofty tartan]

Just really hates Lando

[nocturne holly]

I think mirai can pair with something better

[solid frigate]

Mirai Ogre just hates Rilla a lot

[lost sun]

kyogre

[solid frigate]

Mirai CIR

[foggy lodge]

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X · Mar 31, 2025, 11:28 PM

[solid frigate]

Zac CSR?

[lost sun]

torn would help against it

[forest arrow]

https://pokepast.es/2589cfb39edc4ba8
LunaDon Concept

[lofty tartan]

Grant, my man.

He and I will forever be Regidrago fans

[solid frigate]

good thing is i don't run Torn lmao

[lost sun]

I am but it only has 4spa

[spiral ridge]

@bold geode venom emote is up

[left bobcat]

That’s good enough

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/venom-tom-hardy-marvel-rage-antihero-gif-11732259

[bold geode]

FINALLY

[left bobcat]

NOOOOOOOO

I’m too late

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/woomy-looking-up-shaky-gif-13445926

[left bobcat]

Damn it torrent this is all your fault

[solid frigate]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[left bobcat]

Because maybe if the mitochondria wasn’t the powerhouse of the cell I probably would’ve made the team before they did uhhhhhhhh

[forest arrow]

I’ve had this for at least a few weeks when we were all speculating reg I tho 😅

[left bobcat]

I’ve been working on a similar team for the past month

[forest arrow]

Nice glad to see it

Same 6?

[left bobcat]

Especially since everyone else was like “oooo whats reg I gonna look like”

[atomic mural]

epic

[left bobcat]

No minus the flutter

Too spooky for my liking

[forest arrow]

Yessir

[left bobcat]

My piplup plush says otherwise

[forest arrow]

Torn?

[atomic mural]

the only pokemon i share is the restricteds

[nocturne holly]

what about csr?

[left bobcat]

What about it?

[nocturne holly]

I don’t see the appeal in zac other than sd

mirai car sounds cool

very offensive

[solid frigate]

don't like CSR with Miraidon

+Dies to TR

[nocturne holly]

mirai csr can use fari

[left bobcat]

Yeah they don’t exactly cover each other well

[nocturne holly]

mirai csr fari shifu

how do those 4 sound

[forest arrow]

What’s the substitute? TW? Or Deedee EForce stuff?

[left bobcat]

Koraidon and shadow rider/lunala

[solid frigate]

at this point just run Clefairy after you

[left bobcat]

Ogerpon

[next stump]

just take two strong restricted and add FWG urshifu incin rilla and you have a goated team

[lost sun]

what's a fwg

[forest arrow]

Oh nice, I was thinking of Rockpon somewhere on the team but didn’t know where to fit it

[lost sun]

I got rockpon on my kyogaidon team

[lofty tartan]

The real stars of the format gonna be Ursh, Incin, Rilla, Ogerpon

[solid frigate]

fr

[lost sun]

ain't they already

[lofty tartan]

They are.

[forest arrow]

Based

[lost sun]

bolt and amoonguss more used than Pon but close enough

[atomic mural]

fire water grass

[forest arrow]

Ehh idk about that

[solid frigate]

it would be funny to see Bronzong

[lofty tartan]

It's not about usage lol

[solid frigate]

oh wait no xerneas

[lost sun]

ah

[forest arrow]

Pretty good mix of all of them but yeah it’s not about usage

[atomic mural]

lets go

[lost sun]

pairs with groudon aswell no

[lofty tartan]

They're the glue in every team

[lost sun]

bronzong not xearn

[nocturne holly]

fire water grass core

[forest arrow]

We got some OP glue mons too

[molten oasis]

yea shifu incin lol

[forest arrow]

Rilla Shroom Ogerpon too

[left bobcat]

The shrooms

[forest arrow]

all the grass babies

[balmy glen]

glhf

[forest arrow]

Keanuuuu

[atomic mural]

tera fire koraidon tera water lunala ogerpon rock 🔥

[balmy glen]

I will unfortunately be grinding my ah off for Atlanta but will cook after

[lost sun]

any changes ?

[atomic mural]

change showdown to dark mode

[lost sun]

fair

[foggy lodge]

Still onto arubega mirai?

[lost sun]

didn't even know I could change it to dark mode

[atomic mural]

oh you meant the team?

[lost sun]

ye

[atomic mural]

yeah its good

[balmy glen]

Nope back to my worlds team

[foggy lodge]

HELL YEAH

[forest arrow]

LFG

[solid frigate]

WOOOOOOOOO

[forest arrow]

peli the goat

[solid frigate]

W choice

[lost sun]

what happened

[balmy glen]

I happened 🙂

jokes aside LF to hopefully getting the chance to finally play my worlds team on stream

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/leonardo-dicaprio-toast-cheers-champagne-gif-12045649