competitive_discussion

[undone sage]

||I don't like Helly||

[astral kelp]

me

i bought this 200 dollar costum made notebook because i was joting down game ideas and like plans on how to implementing etc etc a lot

[rustic mountain]

shes ight but like || shes still her outtie u cant really compromise the 2 things necessarily even w/ reintegration||

[astral kelp]

then i felt bad using it so i just kinda stopped lmao

[undone sage]

Exactly

[rustic mountain]

as far as my understanding atleast

[undone sage]

||altho she seems like she'd betray father dear||

[rustic mountain]

yea

[undone sage]

And ||how are they going to do anything from the inside except get caught||

Idiot

[rustic mountain]

thats wat im saying

[undone sage]

Omg

[shadow wind]

I wasn’t kidding

[graceful scaffold]

I LVOE IT

[astral kelp]

fucking epic

[graceful scaffold]

you are talented! theyre so cute!!

[shadow wind]

My notes make me look insane 😭

[astral kelp]

is that cir LMAO

[undone sage]

The face

[shadow wind]

I look schizo

[shadow wind]

Everything that goes on in my head when thinking goes on the paper

[spiral ridge]

Why does the face give Leonard vibes

[undone sage]

Who's Leonard

[shadow wind]

Like everything on that page is followed by a question mark

[spiral ridge]

I think that’s what the emoticon is called one sec

[shadow wind]

Simply because I don’t even know what’s going on

[graceful scaffold]

mood

[shadow wind]

Lenny face

[faint quarry]

[rustic mountain]

talked to ppl giving me a bunch of bullshit ||on they dont care if its 5 minutes they just wanna spent time together and its like oh plz get real u cant coexist in a space that wants to end u both and call ur outties selfish while in the same breath compromise their livelihood (more mark then helly) ||

[astral kelp]

resemblance is uncanny

[shadow wind]

Thank you thank you

[spiral ridge]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Lenny sorry

I was saying his legal name

[undone sage]

RAGE

Oh that

[astral kelp]

What is even going on with the spoiler talk lol

[rustic mountain]

severance

[spiral ridge]

Show

[shadow wind]

A show I think?

My notebook is full of stupid things

[astral kelp]

Omg I just found my old work notebook

[graceful scaffold]

its hard to choose a favourite out of them tbh, please show me more sometime conner lol

[astral kelp]

Buried at the bottom of my desk

[undone sage]

I wanna go spy on Taunt but I don't want my kids to follow and annoy me

[spiral ridge]

Pft

[shadow wind]

There’s a lack of pictures for the most part, nothing was more unstoppable than CIR RockPon for one of my teams

[astral kelp]

I actually made this one
https://jakob-woods.itch.io/game-about-a-wizard-dude

[shadow wind]

Nothing made me that unsure of a lead

[undone sage]

👁️🔥👁️

[astral kelp]

my handwriting is so ass

[graceful scaffold]

oh yeah ur a game dev too right

[shadow wind]

In search of a fire type

[rustic mountain]

holy shit ur handwriting

[graceful scaffold]

i really like the art, what would i have to do to get more of ut art

[rustic mountain]

r u just speed writing

[undone sage]

Comp people are wild

[shadow wind]

Yeah, it’s a small book too

[rustic mountain]

ok

[undone sage]

I also took a picture the other night

[astral kelp]

cereludge 🔥

[shadow wind]

And had to cram a lot into a line

[rustic mountain]

my handwriting isnt that great but like some of that is rough hahah

i can understand cramming it tho and writing fast

[shadow wind]

Dude there’s Tauros Blaze in there

[astral kelp]

yeah trying lol

[shadow wind]

Even Skeledirge was in that list

[graceful scaffold]

grougiug live

[rustic mountain]

pokemon champions wen

[astral kelp]

are you just writing down all the fire types

[shadow wind]

All the ones that could’ve worked yeah

[graceful scaffold]

i agree, grougiug live has yoof typing

[astral kelp]

thats so neat and organized

[shadow wind]

Yo that handwriting is peak

[undone sage]

Its not normally neat

[shadow wind]

Is the strong at least legible?

[graceful scaffold]

stroug, yeah

[shadow wind]

Good enough !

[astral kelp]

LMe

[shadow wind]

Now realizing I drag my pen a lot

[graceful scaffold]

live, laugh, grougiug fire

[astral kelp]

LOOOOL

[astral kelp]

i actually laughed at my quiet workspace to that

[shadow wind]

I wanna make Gouging fire good

He has the stats

[astral kelp]

i feel like its just the movepool

[shadow wind]

If he had wisp

But unfortunately he don’t

He’d be so awesome

[rustic mountain]

yall r stretching his handwriting so much haha they dont look like those other words at all

[astral kelp]

you could use dragon cheer

[shadow wind]

Handwriting is not my strong suit but believe it or not

It used to be way worse

[astral kelp]

handwriting is lame anyways who cares ykyk

[rustic mountain]

nah but like the words are atleast mostly legible is wat i mean

[astral kelp]

he can use snarl too that pretty good

[shadow wind]

🙏

[rustic mountain]

it clearly says good typing not yoof haha

[cyan smelt]

Won my last game so finished 4-3 positive wr let's go

[undone sage]

Yoof

[shadow wind]

My a’s and u’s look very similar I will say

[rustic mountain]

grats

[shadow wind]

Goat goat goat

Kalos tomorrow I’ll dm you with some ideas I had for a team if you want

[cyan smelt]

That miraidon team is scary

Yeah sounds good

[astral kelp]

wait you could unironically cook some gouging fire misty terrain shit

[undone sage]

Taunt would like to know if there's a round 8

[astral kelp]

i could see it

[rustic mountain]

no

[shadow wind]

I know you said you were interested in the process

[cyan smelt]

Yeah I feel like I need to understand the building blocks

[rustic mountain]

i think it was 7 rounds of swiss kit

[shadow wind]

I heard 7 aswell

[undone sage]

[astral kelp]

0r gouging fire could work as a scale shot loaded dice mon

[cyan smelt]

How did taunt do

[rustic mountain]

kalos said they finished positive at 4-3 if there was another round im sure theyd play it

[pure niche]

You reckon 7 and done?

[cyan smelt]

Yeah I'm pretty sure they said 7

[shadow wind]

Gouging fire is a great support Mon with burst options

Very similar to a certain cat

[pure niche]

Couldn't get past the chi-yi/FM/koraidon core to finish so went 3-4 in the end, nice work with your positive finish!

[astral kelp]

what does he have for support just howl?

[shadow wind]

Howl, snarl, breaking swipe

Burning bulwark I guess a little bit?

[cyan smelt]

Ty taunt that sounds like a tough mu for you, I couldn't get past the dogs

[astral kelp]

holy shit manual intimidate

that doesnt sound bad actually

too bad youre kinda slow

[shadow wind]

I love breaking swipe

[astral kelp]

wait no protosynthesis

honestly yea maybe

[shadow wind]

I feel fixated on Gouging fire so that’ll probably be my next team

[astral kelp]

also its a proto mon thats also a fire type

[shadow wind]

Only one in the game

[astral kelp]

thats pretty goodge

[shadow wind]

Similar to Scovillain

Only Chloro mon to be fire type

[astral kelp]

my goat scovillain

[pure niche]

I managed to win my two Moraidon match ups, struggled in the Zam/Koraidons - all good fun and luck of the draw

Glad you did well with your Groudon

[cyan smelt]

I beat miraidon twice too but struggled against zacian and zama

[astral kelp]

if you go full atk you can get 1.5 sun boost + 1.3 proto boost + idk 1.3 lorb boost that could be fun

thats a lotttaaa damage

[graceful scaffold]

highlight/ funniest moment?

[shadow wind]

I honestly just go full bulk

[astral kelp]

would you not want the proto speed boost?

[shadow wind]

Howl is enough for him to output numbers

Well bulk and speed Proto yeah

[astral kelp]

yea

honestly i kinda hate not being able to hit so much shit with fire types

[cyan smelt]

Funniest moment was an incin living a precipice blades on 1 HP and missing it 3x in a row

[shadow wind]

At least you won !!

Also Incins notoriously live on 1 HP for me

But with a howl boost he won’t 🤑🤑

[cyan smelt]

That mon is so bulky

[shadow wind]

95/90/90 isn’t even that crazy

[astral kelp]

https://pokepast.es/fb25db98e61e100e

yknow what would be cool

what if moves with low accuracy like missipice blades increase in accuracy the more you use them in a roll

manual stomping tantrum

[paper pewter]

How should I go about creating a competitive team in scarlet and violet? Cuz I am very very very interested but have the attention span of a gold fish to watch a video

[astral kelp]

bro it might be joever

[shadow wind]

Look at what did well recently and use that then try to understand why it did well so you can recreate that success

[paper pewter]

👌

[shadow wind]

Kalos you live in AUS right?

[astral kelp]

ayo oce gang

[cyan smelt]

Yes

[shadow wind]

So what time is it for you right now?

Just so I know when the appropriate time to dm you is

[cyan smelt]

3:30pm

That was an exhausting day

[shadow wind]

And it’s 11:30 pm for me

[astral kelp]

oh shit you live like far east?

[shadow wind]

I mean I plan on staying up for a bit still if you wanted to help team build now I’d be down

[shadow wind]

Me or Kalos?

[astral kelp]

kalos

[cyan smelt]

Yeah east coast

[astral kelp]

usually aus is 2 hours behind but hes 3 hours behind

[cyan smelt]

I'm pretty tired after the regional conner, maybe tomorrow

[shadow wind]

That’s what I was thinking anyway

[tiny karma]

Landorus [Ground/Flying]

Immune

Electric, Ground

Resists (0.5x)

Bug, Fighting, Poison

Neutral damage

Dark, Dragon, Fairy, Fire, Flying, Ghost, Grass, Normal, Psychic, Rock, Steel, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Water

Weak (4x)

Ice

Type Notes

Ground-types take no damage from Sandstorm.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[shadow wind]

Just wanted to propose the idea just in case

[cyan smelt]

Solid team and if I had used high horsepower in the mirror instead of heat crash I'd have made day 2

[shadow wind]

I’ll cook up some good ideas

[shadow wind]

Nah bad way to think, cause if you won that you would’ve played different people

[cyan smelt]

True

[shadow wind]

It’s always hard to say if one win mattered

[cyan smelt]

I recognise a lot of the archetypes now so at least that's good, zacian drago chi yu, chien Pao zama

[shadow wind]

On paper yeah it mattered but who knows who you would’ve played

[shadow wind]

Experience is always good

I wish I could go to irls

[tiny karma]

- [Water]

Resists (0.5x)

Fire, Ice, Steel, Water

Neutral damage

Bug, Dark, Dragon, Fairy, Fighting, Flying, Ghost, Ground, Normal, Poison, Psychic, Rock, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Electric, Grass

Sableye version 4.28.1

[cyan smelt]

OFC miraidon whims farig hands urshifu

[shadow wind]

Too bad I live in the middle of frickin no where

[cyan smelt]

Damn that would suck, even here in Australia is no good, we get 3 regionals a year

[astral kelp]

btw do we know when the december regional is?

[shadow wind]

I guess if I really wanted to I could drive to lots cause NA

But I live in the middle of Canada

[astral kelp]

i would really like to participate

[cyan smelt]

December regional? No idea

[shadow wind]

Neither coast is that close

[cyan smelt]

Can you do limitless tours etc?

[shadow wind]

Oh yeah for sure

I like limitless tours

[cyan smelt]

Vgc is fun again

[shadow wind]

Why I switched to Bo3 actually

It’s more realistic

[shadow wind]

Perfect, that’s my goal when making teams

[cyan smelt]

I'd like to see the usage stats for the regional, the day 2 ones will be interesting

[shadow wind]

How many other Groudons were there?

[cyan smelt]

Just the one I played

[shadow wind]

Oh wow only 2

[cyan smelt]

No kyogre though

[shadow wind]

That’s even crazier

[cyan smelt]

And OFC Zac and Zama

[shadow wind]

The dogs

Both which should be threatened by fire types

But the team was lacking that offensive pressure

This next one will not be lacking that

[cyan smelt]

Yeah but Zac tera'd out of steel type and Zama tera'd to dragon

[shadow wind]

And yeah

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2330435095

[shadow wind]

Both weak to ice, hmm

[astral kelp]

oh my fucking god encore is so good

im really curious as to what that baxcalibur was running

if he just killed chiyu i was so fucked

[cyan smelt]

I've learnt to never protect in front of whims

[astral kelp]

yeah or fake out or trick room or tailwind etc etc

[shadow wind]

Unless your name is Roaring moon

[astral kelp]

prankster encore is so fucking busted

yeah true ig thats the counter

[cyan smelt]

Roaring moon got other issues against whims lmao

[astral kelp]

yk csr learns encore

[shadow wind]

And disable

[astral kelp]

wait hawlucha has unburden encore what

[shadow wind]

Yeah, did you tera moon at all or nah?

[cyan smelt]

Scream tail also has encore disable

No I never did

[astral kelp]

but scream tail is expected

no one expects the csr to just fucking encore

[shadow wind]

Yeah I also found that when testing it out

[cyan smelt]

It probably would be better with booster and flutter with sash like you said

[tiny karma]

Move: Bounce

Has a 30% chance to paralyze the target. This attack charges on the first turn and executes on the second. On the first turn, the user avoids all attacks other than Gust, Hurricane, Sky Uppercut, Smack Down, Thousand Arrows, Thunder, and Twister, and Gust and Twister have doubled power when used against it. If the user is holding a Power Herb, the move completes in one turn.

Type

Flying

Category

Physical

Power

85

Accuracy

85

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Charge

Has a charging turn.

Contact

Makes contact.

Gravity

Cannot be selected under Gravity.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

oh lol

[shadow wind]

Yeah

[astral kelp]

this is just fly with extra steos

[shadow wind]

I did like the breaking swipe on it though

[astral kelp]

dude im looking at hawluchas movepool it actually might be an insane support mon

[shadow wind]

Caught a shocking amount of modest/adamant Miraidons and Koraidons with their pants down when I had a spread dragon move

[astral kelp]

its got the fastest non prankster encore in the game

and taunt
also you can entretainment unburden

quick guard is crazy too

[cyan smelt]

I'm gonna see when Melbourne regional is

[astral kelp]

lmk o7

i might come visit

[shadow wind]

If you are going I could help you team build for that if you’d like, something more geared towards you than me

[tiny karma]

Move: Flying Press

This move combines Flying in its type effectiveness against the target. Damage doubles and no accuracy check is done if the target has used Minimize while active.

Type

Fighting

Category

Physical

Power

100

Accuracy

95

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Gravity

Cannot be selected under Gravity.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[cyan smelt]

May 17th-18th

[shadow wind]

Whoa that’s my birthday

[cyan smelt]

It'll be double res

[shadow wind]

Oh cool

[cyan smelt]

Scary

[shadow wind]

Double res is gonna be dope

[astral kelp]

oh dude thats gonna be crazy

thats gonna be fun

Maybe eternatus will be good in that format

Probably not tho lol

[molten oasis]

3 weeks in the format is nothing but horse spam

[shadow wind]

Nah I’ll break the cycle, trust

[molten oasis]

(this shouldn't be the case but if it is the case im gonna scream)

[shadow wind]

Groudon will play the support role that he was meant to

[molten oasis]

yea supporting the heaps of copium it needs to survive

[shadow wind]

😭😭

[molten oasis]

/jk groudon should be okay in double res at least

[shadow wind]

Pot calling kettle black bro

[cyan smelt]

Drago I lost to zacian

[molten oasis]

what was the team?

[shadow wind]

Probably the ditto one

[cyan smelt]

I only saw zacian chi yu regidrago

[molten oasis]

the ditto one ok

that team goes like chi yu drago whimsi zac ditto and wellspring/cornerstone/amoonguss

very offensive

[cyan smelt]

I think it was cornerstone

[molten oasis]

that would make sense

i think the shifu torn hearth zacian cores are best rn but that one's good

[cyan smelt]

Shifu on the miraidon comps is so strong

[shadow wind]

Those ones flutter is your very best friend

[molten oasis]

lmao

yea flutter kinda crazy into those teams

[shadow wind]

Set up TW then outspeed

[molten oasis]

i need the new format on showdown so bad

reg g is so boring

[shadow wind]

I also really like Hearthflame for those MUs

[cyan smelt]

I actually used flutter and bronzong against that and won game 3

[shadow wind]

Resisting Dgleam and Edrift is great

[cyan smelt]

Oh I remember an E drift hit ogerpon and it still did a ton of damage

[shadow wind]

Well yeah it’s still Miraidon

One bajillion boosts

[molten oasis]

broken mon lmao

[shadow wind]

It’s not anymore broken than Kyogre

It just uses Tera better

[molten oasis]

eeehhhhh

miraidon gets more multipliers than ogre does

[cyan smelt]

They expected me to tera bronzong T1 so they d gleamed into flutter and bronzong

[molten oasis]

ogre just gets the rain, mirai gets terrain and ability boost

[shadow wind]

Water spout is 150 BP

[molten oasis]

yk fair point

[shadow wind]

And Kyogre has naturally higher spatk

[molten oasis]

i always forget the dons are 135

they dont seem like that ever

[cyan smelt]

Kyogre gets two rain boosted spread moves

[shadow wind]

I mean their abilities make them like 170

[molten oasis]

yea exactly lmao

[molten oasis]

origin miss my favorite

[shadow wind]

Precimiss blades

[molten oasis]

i love missing moves

[cyan smelt]

Eruption Groudon

[shadow wind]

Big Torkoal

[cyan smelt]

Specs Groudon

[molten oasis]

i love losing cuz the big ass whale missed a cat

[rustic mountain]

with what

[shadow wind]

Atleast you OHKO the cat guaranteed if you hit

[molten oasis]

uh, ur mother

[rustic mountain]

🤨

[shadow wind]

Lunala 🙏🙏

[cyan smelt]

Groudon and Zac should be good

[molten oasis]

lunala, zacian groudon is okay

[rustic mountain]

this isnt swsh man

[molten oasis]

emphasis on okay

[rustic mountain]

yea

[shadow wind]

Lunala Groudon should be good

[molten oasis]

cuz imma be honest idk wtf you pair groudon with

[rustic mountain]

right thats kinda wat i was getting at

[molten oasis]

we have new and improved lunadon

[rustic mountain]

like ok lunala groudon, and.......

[molten oasis]

you go koraidon now

[rustic mountain]

nd csr yea

[shadow wind]

Koraidon doesn’t need TR

[molten oasis]

lunala can exist wihtout tr as well

[shadow wind]

Groudon loves the TR option

[molten oasis]

its like base 97 speed right?

[rustic mountain]

yea

[shadow wind]

Yup

[molten oasis]

yea lunala is okay without tr as well, i have friends testing lunadon (koraidon) they're saying its really strong

[shadow wind]

When CSR is 150 speed I think I’m allowed to run TR with a 97 speed Mon

[molten oasis]

well, yea ofc

[rustic mountain]

cant wait till reg i is some random format

[molten oasis]

im going

to lose my mind if its not double res

[shadow wind]

Triple restricted

[molten oasis]

i wanna play zacogre so bad, ITS RIGHT THERE

[rustic mountain]

nah i think cuz its coinciding w/ worlds itll be dual restricted

[molten oasis]

i want my dog to not feel bad because someone brought a cat

[rustic mountain]

or season 13 swsh vibes and basically anything goes

[molten oasis]

its also the end of the games life

or close to, 3 years

[rustic mountain]

how? if anything we are having it extended

[molten oasis]

then (if champions is what we think it is) itll go to that

im saying in the context of champions being the new vgc home

[undone sage]

@rustic mountain trying to see if Taunt wants to go to Melb for the next one

[rustic mountain]

its hard to say

we dont know the full scope of what champions will be

[cyan smelt]

I want to go to Melbourne tbh

[molten oasis]

if not we just, play some more in sv which is okay

[rustic mountain]

is it?

[molten oasis]

im not coping

[undone sage]

Make a weekend of it

[rustic mountain]

he should

[molten oasis]

im so done with tera

[undone sage]

He's more leaning on the no side of it i think

[rustic mountain]

fair, its his call

[molten oasis]

i like tera but its been so long i need a new gimmick or no gimmick

[rustic mountain]

i want no gimmick

please

[undone sage]

Convince him (so i can go to Melb)

[molten oasis]

i wanna sucker punch CSR without worrying about you becoming a fairy

[molten oasis]

im actually pretty interested how a format with the current mons would go without a gimmick

[rustic mountain]

i can try

[undone sage]

[molten oasis]

like same stuff would stay strong but you remove a tool, im curious what would get worse/better

[rustic mountain]

for one terapagos becomes instantly ass cheeks

[molten oasis]

lmfao

pagos is already not that great

[rustic mountain]

its fine tho

[cyan smelt]

Caly s still has redirection at least

[molten oasis]

yo goltes can shine

/jk

[rustic mountain]

right cuz chi yu isnt right there

[cyan smelt]

I miss yveltal but I don't miss xerneas

[molten oasis]

xern would be, a mon, in this format

[cyan smelt]

Xern and flutter

[rustic mountain]

its tough to say how much tera affects wats strong. i think wed still see a lot of the same mons

[molten oasis]

calys get worse, i think thats notable

[rustic mountain]

its still mostly strong get stronger

[molten oasis]

i think they're still going to be strong options but tera pushes them up a lot

having that gone kinda sucks for them

[cyan smelt]

Koraidon is bad without tera

[rustic mountain]

yea

[molten oasis]

yea korai gets worse

[undone sage]

Forgot about these

[molten oasis]

hm

[cyan smelt]

I hope I can still buy those tomorrow

[rustic mountain]

u shouldve played

[undone sage]

No

[rustic mountain]

no like the side event

[molten oasis]

ogerpons get worse to some extent

[undone sage]

[cyan smelt]

Actually I'm pretty exhausted by it so I don't think I'll go tomorrow

[molten oasis]

like hearthflame cant nuke things with tera fire ivy cudgel

[rustic mountain]

rock doesnt tera much anyway

[molten oasis]

idt fire tera's much either tbh

[rustic mountain]

but yea hearthflame would lose offensive flexibility

and defensive in certain mus

[molten oasis]

yea

[undone sage]

Get thrashed in side event

[molten oasis]

any mon that relies on tera for success gets worse

[rustic mountain]

hahah its about having fun right

[molten oasis]

tough to call but it would be interesting

[astral kelp]

Man I wish there were more restricted

[molten oasis]

i dont

[rustic mountain]

every mon does in a sense though

[molten oasis]

the power creep is only going to go up

[molten oasis]

yea but i mean more defensively

[astral kelp]

I feel like we have like a pool of 5 or 6 viable restricted

[molten oasis]

like you definitely lose some offensive pressure on shifu and booster/lorb bolts

[rustic mountain]

gen 10 restricteds are gna have 5 abilities

[astral kelp]

Csr found sucker punched in an alley

[molten oasis]

but korai/calys have to deal with their weaknesses more

[rustic mountain]

4x weaknesses are a bitch

[molten oasis]

or just having like, waht 7

[tiny karma]

- [Ice/Psychic]

Resists (0.5x)

Ice, Psychic

Neutral damage

Dragon, Electric, Fairy, Fighting, Flying, Grass, Ground, Normal, Poison, Stellar, Water

Weak (2x)

Bug, Dark, Fire, Ghost, Rock, Steel

Type Notes

Ice-types cannot be Frozen.
Ice-types have their Defense increased by 50% in Snow.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[rustic mountain]

or ur ice type and weak to like everything

[astral kelp]

It's actually not bad

[molten oasis]

6, and 4 of those are really common

resisting ice and psychic is not good lmao

[astral kelp]

6 weakness could be worse

[rustic mountain]

bruh

[astral kelp]

For an ice type lol

[molten oasis]

damn CIR has no resistances, thats wild

[rustic mountain]

thats as about as bad as it gets

[molten oasis]

thats like up there for worst typing for ice

defensively

[astral kelp]

No 4x at least hahah

[rustic mountain]

yea

[astral kelp]

Cir is so tánky anyways

[molten oasis]

that doesnt offensively do much either, i think

[rustic mountain]

nah ice is great offensively

[tiny karma]

Ice, Psychic

Hits for 0.5x

Steel

Hits for 1x

Bug, Dark, Electric, Fairy, Fire, Ghost, Ice, Normal, Psychic, Rock, Stellar, Water

Hits for 2x

Dragon, Fighting, Flying, Grass, Ground, Poison

Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

psychic gives you fighting.

cuz what notable poison types are there rn, that arent amoonguss, which you already hit

[astral kelp]

That's pretty good

[rustic mountain]

ur not really using ur psychic stab anyway for cir

[astral kelp]

Alsk has high horse

[molten oasis]

im just saying for a typing but yea

CIR's a monster in tr regardless

[rustic mountain]

yea i jus mean its still gna utilize ice/fighting or ice/ground which are both great offensively

[molten oasis]

yea true

[rustic mountain]

trade off for its defensive typing being so bad

u cant have it be too good as ive mentioned

[tiny karma]

Ghost, Psychic

Hits for 0.5x

Dark

Hits for 1x

Bug, Dragon, Electric, Fairy, Fire, Flying, Grass, Ground, Ice, Normal, Rock, Steel, Stellar, Water

Hits for 2x

Fighting, Ghost, Poison, Psychic

Sableye version 4.28.1

[rustic mountain]

gta be some trade offs

[molten oasis]

at least you hit most things for neutral as CSR

[rustic mountain]

ghost is fantastic

[molten oasis]

psychic doesnt do, much, lets you hit normal types ig

[rustic mountain]

yea

[astral kelp]

Csr being immune to fake out is soooooo good

[molten oasis]

psychic seems like a burden lmao

on most typings

[rustic mountain]

again, needs a trade off

but atleast u use ur psychic stab a bit more on csr

[molten oasis]

thats true

CIR doesn't ever need it

[rustic mountain]

i cant see good reason to run it

[molten oasis]

yea, idk why it needs the psychic stab lol

[astral kelp]

It's funny how bad psychic type is

[molten oasis]

its not bug

[rustic mountain]

used to be the best type in the game or one of back in gen 1

[molten oasis]

expanding force is a good move

[rustic mountain]

i think normal was the best

[molten oasis]

psychic was the best typing in gen 1

[astral kelp]

Psychic before dark type

[molten oasis]

mostly cuz the way gen 1 worked was nuts for mewtwo and alakazam

[rustic mountain]

yea but stuff like snorlax and tauros were also very strong

i think its debatable

[molten oasis]

definitely

they also had to nerf psychic a lot, which is why its mid

i wouldn't say its overall bad but its mid

[rustic mountain]

maybe could use a buff now maybe why like

e force is a thing

[molten oasis]

fairy exists like, give it smth

or bug, like i get we should have weak typings but theres a bunch of cool bug types

[rustic mountain]

id say bug type needs a buff more then anything

[molten oasis]

let them do something

like give golisopod a new ability it be so fun

[rustic mountain]

like wat

[molten oasis]

tough claws would make sense

id take anything that isnt a detriment to it

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani/golisopod.gif

[rustic mountain]

i think thats the trade off cuz it has decent stats and typing

[molten oasis]

intimidate maybe (dont), uh, sharpness

[rustic mountain]

unless im misremembering

[molten oasis]

yea, feels unfair tho

things like urshifu exist

[rustic mountain]

run it w/ weezing or cry about it

[molten oasis]

i will cry about it then

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

i think its cool in concept tho, if it had a better ability it walls CIR

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 768: Golisopod

Types

Bug/Water

Abilities

Emergency Exit

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/125/140/60/90/40

Total

530

Sableye version 4.28.1

[rustic mountain]

urshifu is a legendary its a bit different but u also know i think unseen fist needs a slight nerf regardless

[molten oasis]

kingambit

[rustic mountain]

yea it could use a different ability

[molten oasis]

i think it be nice, i get why they did it its supposed to be its whole gimmick

[rustic mountain]

its not like slaking bst not that i thought it was but i think i thought the stat distribution was different. its still solid tho

[molten oasis]

its just lame cuz it could be a cool mon in vgc

[rustic mountain]

it almost top cut worlds in swsh

[molten oasis]

thats cool, he had a work around im guessing

or just make the ability work in his favor

[rustic mountain]

no weezing

yea he was just goated

[molten oasis]

weezing is the work around, which is valid lol

[rustic mountain]

he only lost to dc not even cuz he actually lost

[molten oasis]

that sucks

[cyan smelt]

I'm still salty about that

[rustic mountain]

same

[molten oasis]

golisopod had a chance to top cut and got robbed

[rustic mountain]

he really deserved it

[molten oasis]

was it gigas weezing stuff?

[rustic mountain]

had raikou too

[rustic mountain]

no weezing on the team like i said b4

[molten oasis]

oh

[rustic mountain]

lemme see if i can find it

[molten oasis]

i thought you meant like no, weezing

[rustic mountain]

nah lol

[rustic mountain]

https://victoryroad.pro/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Suraimu-Groudon-Kyogre-0000-0003-W55D-YC.jpg

[molten oasis]

that would have been a very interesting team to hit top cut

[rustic mountain]

it got 17th

[molten oasis]

groudon and kyogre is weird

[rustic mountain]

not a bad placement at all

[molten oasis]

not at all, i wonder how he piloted it

[rustic mountain]

it saw a bit of success

worlds runner up in 2016 won a players cup with it

[molten oasis]

huh

[rustic mountain]

not this same team but kyogre groudon

[rustic mountain]

what is confusing about that

[molten oasis]

thats not what i meant

i meant like, huh as in interesting not huh as in confused sorry

[rustic mountain]

ur good, misunderstood

yea its kinda cool, tough to pilot but can be very strong in the right spot

[molten oasis]

totally gonna try to get golisopod to work in the future, like bo1 probably

[rustic mountain]

also it was swsh meta

[molten oasis]

its a cool guy

[rustic mountain]

dmax made things different

[molten oasis]

thats true

i prefer tera, do wonder what a gen with no gimmick would be like

like nowadays

[rustic mountain]

yea we wont get it but nice to imagine

maybe another format like series 10 in swsh

[molten oasis]

big pikachu needs gimmicks to keep pulling players ig

[rustic mountain]

yea i think the gimmicks add a lvl of flair to the games

not just for the casual in their in game experience but also spectators watching comp

[molten oasis]

yea fs.

[rustic mountain]

teras fine in the grand scheme

beats out every other gimmick before it

[mighty stump]

Bigachu

[rustic mountain]

curious to see where wed go from here as far as gimmicks are concerned. champions opens up the possibility of rotating formats/gimmicks in a never before seen kind of way if it winds up being what ppl think

[molten oasis]

bigachu

[undone sage]

Fun for who

[rustic mountain]

so we may just go to swapping between dmax/tera/z moves etc for the forseeable future

[molten oasis]

cant wait for tera water origin kyogre water spout

[rustic mountain]

idt we mix the mechanics much

otherwise it gets dicey

[molten oasis]

it showed in the champions trailer tera and mega at the same time

[rustic mountain]

and it also said not actual gameplay footage

[molten oasis]

could have jsut been for flair but if thats the case uh, pain ngl

[cyan smelt]

You can probably do only one or the other

[rustic mountain]

it was likely just there to display both will be in the game, doesnt mean at the same time

[molten oasis]

i'd hope its that or its jsut rotating formats

like one foramt is mega no legends and the next is legends tera or smth

[rustic mountain]

i hope ur not deciding the formats if they rotate

[molten oasis]

that would suck lol

[undone sage]

O there was a round 8 for masters

But seems only for the big bois

[astral kelp]

what are the items that are good with unburden?

[cyan smelt]

yeah the ones who lost only 2 right

[molten oasis]

i hope GF continues to just, pick the format and then we play the format

[astral kelp]

so you got the seeds and normal gem

[undone sage]

Ye looks like it

[molten oasis]

seeds w/ terrain, normal gem, white herb, no item

[astral kelp]

yeah no item doesnt work

i guess herb ehhh it has to be something i can do

[undone sage]

There's 1 guy who was 7-0

[molten oasis]

right it has to be lost

[rustic mountain]

if theres 8 rounds of swiss every1 can play those games out, x-2 is more for who moves on to day 2

[astral kelp]

sash and herb are eh

[shadow wind]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2330458057-45b6ewh705lyc5nhitxxhcxwso93jpepw

[undone sage]

It just showed as round 8 on the website

[shadow wind]

Wowza, what a game

[cyan smelt]

well i was too tired to stay

[undone sage]

It only lists people who lost 2 and better

[astral kelp]

i guess maybe this

[undone sage]

But didn't call it anything special

[cyan smelt]

maybe someday i'll be one of those people

[molten oasis]

why'd bro tera

[rustic mountain]

idk there shouldnt be an extra round of x-2s for day 1, thats more for day 2 qualification

[astral kelp]

wait no i can just do white herb and close combat

[molten oasis]

well, ig that blitz would hurt, that CIR was so pinned lmao

[shadow wind]

Blitz I guess

[rustic mountain]

aus follows the same circuit rules as na so shouldnt be any different of a bonus round for x-2s on day 1

[undone sage]

I dunno

[cyan smelt]

i'm already liking the look of gouging fire on your team conner

[undone sage]

There just is

[rustic mountain]

unless every1 who was x-3 dropped but that seems highly unlikely

[undone sage]

Maybe they just said fuck it

[molten oasis]

the dude at the table by themselves just like "wheres my opponent"

[cyan smelt]

maybe too many people with x-2

[rustic mountain]

u can atleast get points at 5-3, 4/4 u get nothing

[undone sage]

There were like 47 competitors for this round

[molten oasis]

going positive in regionals gets you points?

[cyan smelt]

i don't think i got points

[molten oasis]

or is it like smaller regionals

[rustic mountain]

47 ppl competing in masters?

[undone sage]

For this "round 8"

[rustic mountain]

🤨

yea im not sure

[molten oasis]

we're you the 47th?

[undone sage]

That's how many had 2 losses or better

[molten oasis]

oh nvm

[undone sage]

No we're getting dinner out in the city

[rustic mountain]

😎

[cyan smelt]

sounds nice

i'm a fan of ogerpon hearthflame now

[astral kelp]

wait what if i do wsome fliing shaningans

[molten oasis]

ogerpon is goated

hearthflame just does all

except beat incin

[rustic mountain]

incin the tru goat

[rustic mountain]

enjoy

[molten oasis]

i'll probably pick up more incin reg i if its double res

[rustic mountain]

no u wont

[molten oasis]

zac doesnt appreciate incin much (from my expereince it prefered hearthflame) but it helps with others

[molten oasis]

no the thing is, i'll try then get stuck and have to run incin

[rustic mountain]

incin gna go crazy

[molten oasis]

although idk how much i'll be runnign incin wiht kyogre

shroom incin goes crazy tho

[rustic mountain]

can always run like wow/fake out/knock off p shot

[rustic mountain]

it really do

[molten oasis]

i mean the mon i think i'll always have wtih zacogre is amoonguss

[rustic mountain]

yea

[molten oasis]

so an incin amoonguss route is perfectly fine

[rustic mountain]

add bolt and in 5 mons u hav fwg and fantasy core

[molten oasis]

then round out with like tornshifu or bolt or smth

yea lol, i run bolt moonguss zacogre rn

with just early here there testing

anti sun guy is nice

[molten oasis]

also anti tornshifu, tornshifu is rough sometimes

[molten oasis]

why did it do taht little

[shadow wind]

Tera fire

[rustic mountain]

yea bolt dissuades the fuck outta that

[molten oasis]

ah, the ultimate iron fraud

iron bundle

[rustic mountain]

it had its time

[molten oasis]

reg b, and like some of c i think

[rustic mountain]

yep

[molten oasis]

reg d added the legends and it fucking died lol

[shadow wind]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2330461806

Man I don't even think this team is good

Caught a greedy flutter though

[rustic mountain]

ur a greedy flutter

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Hawlucha [Fighting/Flying]

Immune

Ground

Resists (0.25x)

Bug

Resists (0.5x)

Dark, Fighting, Grass

Neutral damage

Dragon, Fire, Ghost, Normal, Poison, Rock, Steel, Stellar, Water

Weak (2x)

Electric, Fairy, Flying, Ice, Psychic

Sableye version 4.28.1

[shadow wind]

😔

[rustic mountain]

yea it was rough out there for bundle after dlc 1 + home release mons

[molten oasis]

bolt only made it worse

[rustic mountain]

i think it was barely around but by reg e it was finished

[shadow wind]

Chances of this account hitting 80% are like 0

[cyan smelt]

oh you changed moon to speed booster conner

[molten oasis]

yea it was gone reg e

[astral kelp]

wait has no one cooked normal gem terapagos

[molten oasis]

then it had a very very short resurgence in reg g 1

[shadow wind]

Yeah I'm testing it with a pretty similar team

[rustic mountain]

more like burning the kitchen down

[molten oasis]

and then died again

[shadow wind]

It already has saved me like 3 times

[cyan smelt]

looks promising so far

[astral kelp]

actually it wonr work because i cant entreteinment it\

[cyan smelt]

although triple dragon idk

[molten oasis]

idt normal gem even works with tera starstorm

[rustic mountain]

yea wen ppl realized it was still dogshit and miraidon didnt need it

[shadow wind]

Yeah it's a bit ehhh

But Gouging like barely counts because the fire type balances it out very well

[molten oasis]

yep lol

[shadow wind]

And the only real dragon type right now is Miraidon

And draco is committal

[molten oasis]

maybe bundle will have some light in the future

[astral kelp]

and koraidon

he exists

[molten oasis]

raging bolt would like a word

[shadow wind]

He doesn't use dragon type moves

[rustic mountain]

koraidon doesnt run dragon stab yea

atleast the ones that do well

[shadow wind]

Yeah

[molten oasis]

you're even using raging bolt lmao

[shadow wind]

With Draco

[rustic mountain]

oh yea bolt

[shadow wind]

Same issue as Miraidon

[molten oasis]

i love bolt, hes just perfect

[rustic mountain]

also wake was pretty legit on boyts team

[molten oasis]

that was a cool team

[shadow wind]

I am scared of Lando with this team though

[cyan smelt]

i enjoy sun teams now

[shadow wind]

So that's what I'm trying to iron out

[molten oasis]

pao?

[rustic mountain]

anyway point is theres dragons around outside miraidon

[molten oasis]

could pao go anywhere

[shadow wind]

Not easily nah

[molten oasis]

what if over bronzong volc

[rustic mountain]

r u asking like generally

[molten oasis]

no for Conner's team

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

i could see pao being hard to fit tho

[shadow wind]

Yeah

[molten oasis]

its my go to anti lando guy

[shadow wind]

Although Volc and Zong are literally just CIR counters

[rustic mountain]

paos gta b one of my fav gen 9 mons

[molten oasis]

the ruins i think we're all pretty cool mons

[rustic mountain]

yea

[molten oasis]

they cooked with some designs this gen

[rustic mountain]

most id say

[molten oasis]

yea actually, i was trying to think of bad ones but theres not many

[cyan smelt]

why do i keep thinking roaring moon is flying type

[shadow wind]

Salamence

[molten oasis]

cuz it literally always tera flyings also salamence

[rustic mountain]

yea

[molten oasis]

bro's main move is acrobatics

[rustic mountain]

ive made the same mistake b4 too earlier on

now im just like its hydreigon

[molten oasis]

real lol

[shadow wind]

Hydreigon with the stats of a goat

[molten oasis]

hydreigon when pixie dust

[rustic mountain]

well yea after the typing is where the similarities end

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 635: Hydreigon

Types

Dark/Dragon

Abilities

Levitate

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/105/90/125/90/98

Total

600

Sableye version 4.28.1

[shadow wind]

They both get tailwind !

[molten oasis]

huh

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

i thought it had more bulk

[shadow wind]

Wowza

[rustic mountain]

its got good bulk

[shadow wind]

Slightly worse than Incin

[molten oasis]

i know but i thought it was higher

[rustic mountain]

not bad not great

[molten oasis]

think im semi used to mons being min maxed

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 898: Calyrex-Shadow

Types

Psychic/Ghost

Abilities

As One (Spectrier)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/85/80/165/100/150

Total

680

Base Species

Calyrex

Sableye version 4.28.1

[rustic mountain]

ur too new gen pilled

[molten oasis]

i mean, i've only played gen 9 lol

and its only gonna get worse

[rustic mountain]

nah itll get better

then itll get way worse

[molten oasis]

next legends gonna get 2 items and 3 abilties

and new megas

[shadow wind]

Reg H was my only Reg without Flutter mane

[molten oasis]

reg h was a format

[rustic mountain]

reg h was cool

[molten oasis]

i could have been better about it, fuck snealer tho

[shadow wind]

Nah for real

[molten oasis]

there was counterplay and i played a lot of dengo, i still hated it

[rustic mountain]

it was annoying but id prefer that over this shit storm of a format

[molten oasis]

lmfao true

sick of the roulette wheel

[rustic mountain]

ur telling me

[molten oasis]

im just kinda surprised they had us do reg g again

[rustic mountain]

im not

we rotated the same 2 formats twice in swsh

[molten oasis]

oh we did? had no idea

[rustic mountain]

series 7 and 9 and 8 and 11 iirc

[molten oasis]

damn, they did it twice

oh reg h again is totally an option

[shadow wind]

😭

[molten oasis]

we'll just have to wait and see

[rustic mountain]

yep legends format twice and then 1 restricted format twice

then series 12 was dual and 13 was ag

[molten oasis]

what was single restricted like in swsh

[shadow wind]

Bolt taking 24% from that should not happen

[molten oasis]

was it like mostly zacian or not really

[torn parrot]

Reg I bouta be something left field please 🙏

[rustic mountain]

mu roulette still but i dont remember it being as bad

[molten oasis]

ic

[rustic mountain]

nah but zacian was around

[molten oasis]

waht would it be tho

[torn parrot]

Uhhh

[rustic mountain]

lmao

[molten oasis]

it have to be no tera format or like, reg f again

[rustic mountain]

y

[molten oasis]

uh, cuz i'd be down for reg f

[rustic mountain]

u love reg f

[molten oasis]

reg f was awesome

[rustic mountain]

ud play reg f for the rest of svs life if they had it

[molten oasis]

idk about that, i'd never get to play with zacian

[rustic mountain]

if u could pick any mon as a starter and it not be a legend or restricted wat would it be

[shadow wind]

Excadrill

I sure do love my Ground types

[molten oasis]

hm

[rustic mountain]

ok cool choice

[molten oasis]

alolan ninetales or dragapult probably

[rustic mountain]

itd start out as a drilbur ud b ok with that?

[shadow wind]

Course

[rustic mountain]

so alolan vuplix or dreepy

[molten oasis]

yk, a9 was meta in reg h, reg h would be fine again i jsut need to appreciate the format

[shadow wind]

Drilbur is a legend

[molten oasis]

yea

[shadow wind]

Bro has 85 atk

[molten oasis]

actually just alolan vulpix

[shadow wind]

Don't count him out

[molten oasis]

alolan vulpix is adorable

[rustic mountain]

actually kinda goated

yea thats a solid choice i like a vulpix/a9

[molten oasis]

foxes are also some of my favorite animals

[rustic mountain]

id be boring and pick treecko

[molten oasis]

i almost picked popplio ngl

[rustic mountain]

but if i had to pick something else id go dratini

[molten oasis]

that or sprig

[rustic mountain]

yea popplio is dope

[molten oasis]

popplio got too much hate

[rustic mountain]

idk why

gen 7 is like gen 3 it has a really strong starter trio design wise imo

[molten oasis]

yea, final and starting are just really good

gave us incin

[rustic mountain]

yea most middle evos are kinda mid. not everythin can be grovyle

[molten oasis]

grovyle is just peak middle starter

[rustic mountain]

fr

[molten oasis]

floragato is also alright

[rustic mountain]

eh its not bad

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani/floragato.gif

[rustic mountain]

better then the other 2 gen 9 middle evos

[molten oasis]

could be worse, you could be whatever quaxly's is

[rustic mountain]

quaxlys middle evos is genuinely one of the worst

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani/brionne.gif

[rustic mountain]

brionne is fine

[molten oasis]

its fine

[rustic mountain]

torracat is cool

[molten oasis]

quiladin is like, it exists

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani/quilladin.gif

[molten oasis]

ew

[rustic mountain]

quiladan is where everything begins to go downhill

cuz chespin is cute

[molten oasis]

lowkey freaks me out

[shadow wind]

Bro is 100% of my problems

[rustic mountain]

its the worst middle evo

[molten oasis]

it looks so bad

[rustic mountain]

bayleef is top tier

[molten oasis]

true bayleef is awesome

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani/wartortle.gif

[rustic mountain]

wartortle is solid

[molten oasis]

wartortle isnt too bad

ivysaur's solid too

[rustic mountain]

all the gen 1 middle evos are solid

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani/servine.gif

[rustic mountain]

same for gen 2

[molten oasis]

i like dewott

[rustic mountain]

its eh

[molten oasis]

servine's alright, uh, pignite is eh

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani/pignite.gif

[shadow wind]

We got all the buddies now

[rustic mountain]

servines weird and pignite is meh

[molten oasis]

4 dragons is wild

guess wake is anti lando material tho

[shadow wind]

One singular ice resist

[rustic mountain]

theres no dragons in the format
also conner using 4 dragons

[molten oasis]

lmfao

[cyan smelt]

conner loves dragons

[rustic mountain]

he said they werent real

[molten oasis]

its like his favorite typing

bro just didnt want to admit it

[rustic mountain]

tru

[molten oasis]

ok waht else, gen 8 mid evos

oh right thwakey exists

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https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani/thwackey.gif

[rustic mountain]

thwackey is wackey is wat i always say

[molten oasis]

maybe that was the goal lmao

people like raboot i think

[rustic mountain]

raboots fine

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani/raboot.gif

[rustic mountain]

drizzile is meh

[molten oasis]

drizzile, no wonder i forgot its mid evo

its so close to drizzle i'd get confused

[rustic mountain]

lmao

[molten oasis]

yea gotta say, grovile is just simply peak

[rustic mountain]

other gen 6 middle evos, gen 4

[molten oasis]

grotle

[rustic mountain]

ew

[molten oasis]

lmao

[rustic mountain]

prinlup is meh

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani/monferno.gif

[shadow wind]

Hey whoa

[molten oasis]

monferno's fine

[rustic mountain]

hard pass

its like ok

[shadow wind]

They just gave me goated dragons this generation

[molten oasis]

i mean they did

that whole trio has pretty cool designs

bolt only really grew on me through vgc tho

i think out of the 3 bolt has the worst design but its not like its by a big margin

[rustic mountain]

bolt grew on me a few days after cuz at first i was like wtf then i was like ok its just a funny guy vibing

[molten oasis]

wake is my favorite by design

[rustic mountain]

wake is gross

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https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/gen5/gougingfire.png

[rustic mountain]

pineapple head

[molten oasis]

eh, actually bolt's second lmao

bolt's goofy

[rustic mountain]

yea i love it

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/gen5/walkingwake.png

[molten oasis]

how is wake gross?

[rustic mountain]

r u serious? look at that abomination

[shadow wind]

No legit what I thought when he was shown

[rustic mountain]

they did suicune so dirty

[shadow wind]

Yeah he looks like a monster

[molten oasis]

fair enough, i think wake's cool tho

[rustic mountain]

yea thats fine

i just dont like its design myself

[shadow wind]

Gouging is my favourite

[molten oasis]

i see that aspect of it but i feel like taht was somewhat the goal

[rustic mountain]

really only bolt i like

gouging is weird pineapple head

and wake is idek wtf

[molten oasis]

like to turn them into dinosaurs, went a little far with wake ig

[shadow wind]

Triceratops are goated

[molten oasis]

bolt overall best one tho

[shadow wind]

Dinosaur debate

Anklyos are goated

[molten oasis]

ig compared to suicune you'd think they go more elegant with it

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani/suicune.gif

[rustic mountain]

crown is cool boulder is gross and leaves is fine

[molten oasis]

i definitely see it now

[shadow wind]

Agree, agree, and agree

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2330472167

Just look at the last turn of this game

I know this guy from a different server but that will not save him

[rustic mountain]

it just got changed so much idk, and the bipedal aspect mixed with the t rex arms and all that idk its just off putting

[molten oasis]

yea fs

[rustic mountain]

i like the og beast trio

[molten oasis]

good call

[rustic mountain]

too tired to watch conner

[molten oasis]

would draco+blitz have killed without the tera?

[molten oasis]

valid, they all have good designs

[rustic mountain]

right?

enteis one of my favs

[molten oasis]

suicune is up there for me

[shadow wind]

All you need to know is that I'm goated

[rustic mountain]

nice

[mighty stump]

r u tho

[molten oasis]

lmao

[mighty stump]

r u rlly

cuz if u gotta say ur goated

[rustic mountain]

tofus hard truths

[shadow wind]

😔

I mask my insecurity with blatant lies

[mighty stump]

thats why insecurity = confidence

“i suck at this game” actually goat

[rustic mountain]

that 1 sanvy tweet

[molten oasis]

wait so saying youre confident at the game is a trap?

[rustic mountain]

yes and no

[mighty stump]

ur so insecure that it flips to confidence

[molten oasis]

gotcha

[mighty stump]

cuz if ur too confident ur actually insecure

[rustic mountain]

lmao

[mighty stump]

#tofuthoughts

[rustic mountain]

its time for bed

[mighty stump]

spread the word

cure the disease

[molten oasis]

lmfao

[mighty stump]

FIGHT THE WOKE MINDVIRUS

CONFIDENCE IS WOKE

BE INSECURE

the above content is satirical in nature

[molten oasis]

"Confidence is woke" -Tofu 2025

wise words

[rustic mountain]

my elo jus went up 20%

[mighty stump]

Anyways PLZA needs to come sooner

I cannot wait

[molten oasis]

ong

[rustic mountain]

yea