competitive_discussion

[left bobcat]

I would show but I must shower

[craggy dagger]

every bit of twist and info is valuable

[feral valley]

I got swept by a malamar

[left bobcat]

Besides I think I’ve already demonstrated the team

[craggy dagger]

greninja was a restricted killer which was something i didn’t expect it to be able to do

[solid frigate]

the only positive thing that my rental have is that i almost beat Yotam with that @rustic mountain

[solid frigate]

F

[solid frigate]

i might update my starter list to make Greninja to Anti Meta cuz bro can kill half of the notable ones

[rustic mountain]

wow nice bo1 or bo3

yea i wanna try that out as well

rilla-zacian-incin-bolt-kyogre and like torn or something else seems good

[molten oasis]

im messing with zac kyo pao torn bolt amoonguss rn

those 2 like redirect a lot otherwise i'd probably run rilla

[paper shard]

Araquanid is lowkey the comp goat

[solid frigate]

its in GC

I got destroyed by his Scarf CHi Yu

At least i killed Calyrec and Urshifu

[rustic mountain]

i mean shroom is great haha i was just spitballing

[molten oasis]

yea ik, that seems good tho

[atomic mural]

i agree

[solid frigate]

bro is @atomic mural alt fr

[rustic mountain]

tru

[rustic mountain]

ahhh gotcha

[solid frigate]

https://x.com/TorrentAegisVGC/status/1902883642197627142

I did made a whole tweet about it

TorrentAegisVGC/Morris (@TorrentAegisVGC) on X

So i accidentally fought @_yotam_ in this Global Challenge and honse away with the match

GGs tho,hopefully i can encounter you in the future!(Even tho we did said that in chat)
#PokemonVGC #Calyrex #worldchampion #YotamVGC

X · Mar 21, 2025, 12:43 AM

[molten oasis]

wiat how big is its head?

[atomic mural]

nah they just have the same based opinion

[solid frigate]

like 50% of its whole body

[rustic mountain]

big brain

[molten oasis]

i know, the meme is saying that its head is bigger than most of YOUR body

[solid frigate]

thats why it can learn both its moveset and his horses Moveset

[lost sun]

if next reg is dres what would likely be meta

[rustic mountain]

zama/kyogre, mirai/cir, zama/csr

[solid frigate]

dres wha-

[molten oasis]

araquanid? no lol

[rustic mountain]

stuff like that id imagine

[solid frigate]

oh nvm

[solid frigate]

Jeudy said Mirai Ogre is solid so i go for it

[molten oasis]

korai/lunala

zac/mirai is like okay

[rustic mountain]

its kinda tough to say fully

[molten oasis]

we have to see the format come out

[lost sun]

zama mirai seems good

[nocturne holly]

wait im tweaking did we already have double restrocteds yet or no

[rustic mountain]

maybe

[molten oasis]

we did not

[forest arrow]

Korai Lunala

[rustic mountain]

no not this gen

[molten oasis]

we had reg h instead

[atomic mural]

korai csr with weezing 🔥

[rustic mountain]

bring me back

[molten oasis]

lmao

[rustic mountain]

fuck reg g man

[molten oasis]

i mean i agree

we need a new format no one wanted 8 months of single restricted

[lost sun]

reg g does feel repetitive with everyone using the same 6 res

[atomic mural]

reg i is reg g 3.0

[molten oasis]

its a roulette wheel

[bold geode]

Ah it's this fucking guy (welcome back)

[molten oasis]

it sucks lol

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/b8da8351c37e9e25

i did try out lunadon and @craggy dagger try to help me by teach me how pilot

[solid frigate]

more like same 8 but we don't talk about stockholm

[lost sun]

Stockholm?

[rustic mountain]

single restricted compounds the issues of restricted power lvl in general and skews it even moreso b.c of the 1 restricted bearing so much weight on every mu

[bold geode]

Bro doesn't like it now huh

[rustic mountain]

makes it a lot harder to cover for more

[solid frigate]

Eternatus and Lunala got more appearance than Zamazenta

[molten oasis]

double res should be, more open, i hope

[rustic mountain]

it helps

[molten oasis]

things like lunala zacian palkia are better

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/breakdance-of-time-pmd-pokemon-mystery-dungeon-riolu-gif-13361005654725912571

[lost sun]

think I've seen etern 1 time

[forest arrow]

Lunala will be super good

[solid frigate]

Dialga pls make a comeback plssss

[molten oasis]

i have, not felt the hype for lunala in reg i ngl

[lost sun]

we all waiting for reg igigas

[molten oasis]

but thats probably due to me trying to find pairings with zac and the only option is kyogre lol

ah yes, my favorite regulations

[forest arrow]

Zac Lunala isn’t bad

[molten oasis]

greg and regigigas

[solid frigate]

and Pagos smh-

Smh Pagos love zacian

[molten oasis]

a single incin

[bold geode]

Greg G is almost over

[forest arrow]

Meteor beam

[molten oasis]

ruins that duo

[molten oasis]

miss/switch out/reidrect

now what

[lost sun]

just bring 6 incins and spam parting shot every attack

[forest arrow]

Skill issue

[craggy dagger]

why did discord update

[molten oasis]

...

[atomic mural]

ikr it looks weird

[craggy dagger]

-# why does it look like this...

[lost sun]

mine looks normal

[forest arrow]

Idk man that reg I server people are having success with “Moonknight”

[molten oasis]

okay regardless, if the meteor beam is whiffed somehow they both do close to nothing into incin

[craggy dagger]

lol

triple para discharge

[solid frigate]

i might do a few pairs to see which one i like

CIR Miraidon
Miraidon Kyogre
Lunala Groudon
Dialga CIR
Dialga Kyogre

[molten oasis]

personally, i get it

[lost sun]

kyogaidon

[forest arrow]

Btw I wasnt saying you have a skill issue I was just joking cause those factors definitely can occur

[molten oasis]

i care about consistency (to an extent) and if both my restricteds overall suck into incin im not playing that duo

[solid frigate]

kek

[tiny karma]

- [Ground/Steel]

Immune

Electric, Poison

Resists (0.25x)

Rock

Resists (0.5x)

Bug, Dragon, Fairy, Flying, Normal, Psychic, Steel

Neutral damage

Dark, Ghost, Grass, Ice, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Fighting, Fire, Ground, Water

Type Notes

Steel-types cannot be Poisoned.
Ground- and Steel-types take no damage from Sandstorm.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

ik

[craggy dagger]

why's this typing not bad

[molten oasis]

it was never bad

you're just weak to common types

[craggy dagger]

oh...
the stats for this mon sucks

[bold geode]

Me when schizophrenic

[solid frigate]

i will still try Dialga+whatever Restricted it likes

[molten oasis]

yep lol

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 990: Iron Treads

Types

Ground/Steel

Abilities

Quark Drive

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/112/120/72/70/106

Total

570

Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

dawg

[lost sun]

us*

[molten oasis]

i knew they werent great but those stats suck

only thing its got going for it is good physical bulk and speed ig

[craggy dagger]

excadrill is fine but its unusable in anything outside of sand
dugtrio alola just exists

[lost sun]

tailwind max speed brute bonnet

[molten oasis]

excadrill is still better than iron treads

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 530: Excadrill

Types

Ground/Steel

Abilities

Sand Rush, Sand Force, Mold Breaker (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

110/135/60/50/65/88

Total

508

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

offensively yeah-

[molten oasis]

hits a lot harder

it is a great sand abuser too

[solid frigate]

anyways Double res list but based on individual strength imo

[molten oasis]

gf give us a good snow abuser

[molten oasis]

korai is a

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 28: Sandslash-Alola

Types

Ice/Steel

Abilities

Snow Cloak, Slush Rush (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/100/120/25/65/65

Total

450

Base Species

Sandslash

Sableye version 4.28.1

[forest arrow]

Sun mons 😭

[molten oasis]

the origin forms are shit

[forest arrow]

Korai paid its dues

[solid frigate]

i can't decide on them being on B or A

So i throw them together

[molten oasis]

gonna be honest

groudon isnt gonna be that good, or at least idt it will

groudon is like pagos tier

[craggy dagger]

groudon always gets better in double restricteds though

[solid frigate]

ok being Pagos tier is a bit insulting to both Groudon and Pagos lmao

[craggy dagger]

it never feels like a driver itself

[lost sun]

ye but wasn't that mainly cus it paired so well with xearneas

[craggy dagger]

even without xerneas, groudon wasnt too bad iirc

[atomic mural]

groudon isnt that bad

[forest arrow]

Didn’t it pair with Lunala as well tho

[molten oasis]

do you want sun? yes? okay, which mon are you gonna run, koraidon? or groudon?

[solid frigate]

Groudon did not pair that much with xern in SWSH and literally being the best team in SWSH Rinya sun right?

[forest arrow]

We both know my answer

[molten oasis]

(i think koraidon is the big one)

[craggy dagger]

both do different things imo
do you wanna have ground coverage or fighting coverage

[atomic mural]

https://tenor.com/view/legendary-miraodon-koraidon-pokemon-scarlet-gif-25835897

[lost sun]

whimsicott prankster sunny day ofc

[molten oasis]

yea, i guess

[craggy dagger]

it really depends on the team i think

[forest arrow]

Now just give us shiny korai pls and thanks

[atomic mural]

dude thats so real

[solid frigate]

also both likes Flutter but Groudon likes Raging Bolt more than Koraidon imo

[molten oasis]

but also like, MOST of the time you want the speed and power of koraidon over groudons uh, stuff

[craggy dagger]

wheres my hatsune miku fish

[molten oasis]

i want the brown kitty

[craggy dagger]

groudon offers sun in a balance/trick room setting
koraidon offers sun in HO/fast balance setting

[forest arrow]

Shiny chi yu too please 😭❤️

[lost sun]

fr

[craggy dagger]

cuz you cant really underestimate groudon's bulk and its decently hefty attack

[solid frigate]

i just want to run Dialga and CIR/Kyogre for my side Project

[molten oasis]

fair enough

i still think koraidon is overall better

[craggy dagger]

plus you get spread moves which koraidon can have...
-# breaking swipe

[lost sun]

I can as I use kyogre

[molten oasis]

precimiss blades my favorite

[solid frigate]

it lives Miraidon's Draco Meteor

Enough said

[craggy dagger]

itll be much more popular i think

but they both do different things in the same department

[forest arrow]

Breaking swipe set recently won an unofficial reg I tournament

[molten oasis]

fair enough

then its not real

[left bobcat]

Nair enough

[solid frigate]

but hear me out

Dialga

[molten oasis]

like i like the theorizing dont get me wrong, im not hard calling anythign until regionals and official ladder start

[craggy dagger]

thoughts on water landorus for the last slot?
https://pokepast.es/e34ad2f4ed896e5a

[molten oasis]

sre

[craggy dagger]

-# yes thats a bulky chien pao

[left bobcat]

Eh I do the same

[molten oasis]

nova

why

[solid frigate]

i witness that and i helped

[forest arrow]

Still beat CSR Zama and CIR Mirai, two strong pairings that everyone says will be meta

[solid frigate]

wait honestly

[forest arrow]

But I get your logic

[left bobcat]

Yeah?

[solid frigate]

Dialga can cook.

[molten oasis]

nova why is that a bulky chien pao

[left bobcat]

Oh

[lost sun]

legends spammer use gliscor instead

[left bobcat]

I thought bro was gonna cook

[craggy dagger]

cloak + tera poison helps a lot

[solid frigate]

i was concern but i understand the reason

[left bobcat]

Jp dialga can cook

[solid frigate]

fuck you /j

[craggy dagger]

it does funny things which is cool

[molten oasis]

dont you want your tera going on koraidon tho

[craggy dagger]

not always
this team covers each other pretty without any tera

so tera feels more versatile on that team

[solid frigate]

Dialga-Origin @ Adamant Crystal
Ability: Pressure
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 196 HP / 92 Def / 156 SpA / 44 SpD / 20 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Draco Meteor
• Earth Power
• Flash Cannon
• Protect
  Under TW outspeeds Scarf Shifu

ALSO YES LEMME COPE

also i remember it lives a body press

[craggy dagger]

dialga 😭

at least its cool

[atomic mural]

ok but hear me out https://pokepast.es/42b3f45b0f14e7fe

[solid frigate]

idc i am coping at this point

[forest arrow]

You’re a degenerate

[left bobcat]

SEE

[forest arrow]

lol

[atomic mural]

[molten oasis]

i hope you stay in elo hell

[left bobcat]

well I do that minus the bozogiri

[craggy dagger]

252 Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 212 HP / 36 Def Chien-Pao on a critical hit: 117-138 (64.2 - 75.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
i like living surging strikes within a good margin

[molten oasis]

what were the notable calcs

[solid frigate]

https://youtu.be/q6iALHZNsuk?si=ezpcm5HvPbQaYiJC

PMD brainwashed me so much

[molten oasis]

liek what was the bulk meant for

[craggy dagger]

i forgot 😭
im looking them up again

[molten oasis]

bruh

[forest arrow]

https://pokepast.es/95fe21f17d0cbdd6

[molten oasis]

oh i think that uh, boyt played av tera electric pao once

https://pokepast.es/7578954607754a63 im "playing" this rn

[craggy dagger]

116+ Atk Rillaboom Wood Hammer vs. 212 HP / 36 Def Chien-Pao in Grassy Terrain: 148-175 (81.3 - 96.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery

116+ Atk Rillaboom U-turn vs. 212 HP / 36 Def Chien-Pao: 90-106 (49.4 - 58.2%) -- 56.3% chance to 2HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery

52+ SpA Lunala Moonblast vs. 212 HP / 76 SpD Chien-Pao: 136-162 (74.7 - 89%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

i think this was mostly a rillaboom calc

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/899090fe477738fa

Just lemme cope pls-

[craggy dagger]

and then i would tera under any other circumstance since fake out doesnt do anything

[molten oasis]

so

you made it live wood hammer, and thats, the only reason its that bulky

[craggy dagger]

i also want a free taunt

it can live a bunch of things when tera'd

[molten oasis]

it doesnt eat like, mirai gleam or, tera fairy draining kiss from CSR, or neutral ivy cudgel

[solid frigate]

it should tho

[molten oasis]

without tera, cuz it sounds like this set is HEAVILY reliant on tera

[craggy dagger]

oh
252 SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Dazzling Gleam vs. 212 HP / 76 SpD Chien-Pao: 178-210 (97.8 - 115.3%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

[molten oasis]

nova is this worth it

[craggy dagger]

the taunt is desperatley needed TwT

[molten oasis]

this set seems kinda bad ngl

run taunt flutter

[solid frigate]

i mean if i try to work on Dialga i can't really argue about that set

[craggy dagger]

its running twave

shadow ball and moonblast feel necessary

[molten oasis]

ok, taunt twave moonblast protect, why do you need shadow ball

[craggy dagger]

shadow rider MU

[molten oasis]

...

why not just

twave the CSR and then nuke it with koraidon

or sucker punch with pao

[craggy dagger]

cuz twave misses 😭

[craggy dagger]

terrain

[molten oasis]

...

[rustic mountain]

why am i looking at 212 hp chien pao

[molten oasis]

im trying to figure that out too

[craggy dagger]

i have no clue
i had an idea and i kinda forgot what it was

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

this just doesnt seem worth it, you have an open slot right?

is there a mon there you could slap taunt on

[solid frigate]

i am just here

[rustic mountain]

i think w/ pao ud wanna lean more offense like some of the lorb variants, idk if defensive pao is even worth the trade off most times

[craggy dagger]

water lando feels like the best

[tiny karma]

Landorus's moveset:

Physical Moves

Body Slam, Brick Break, Brutal Swing, Bulldoze, Crunch, Dig, Earthquake, Explosion, Facade, Fissure, Fling, Fly, Frustration, Giga Impact, Hammer Arm, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Outrage, Payback, Punishment, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Throw, Rock Tomb, Sand Tomb, Secret Power, Self-Destruct, Smack Down, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Strength, Superpower, Take Down, U-turn

Special Moves

Earth Power, Extrasensory, Focus Blast, Grass Knot, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Mud Shot, Mud-Slap, Psychic, Round, Sandsear Storm, Scorching Sands, Sludge Bomb, Sludge Wave, Snore, Tera Blast, Weather Ball

Status Moves

Attract, Block, Bulk Up, Calm Mind, Confide, Defog, Double Team, Endure, Gravity, Imprison, Leer, Nasty Plot, Protect, Rain Dance, Rest, Rock Polish, Role Play, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Stealth Rock, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swords Dance, Taunt, Toxic

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Landorus.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[solid frigate]

dude i am literally the person who teambuild with Nova and i see all of it.

[molten oasis]

huh, didnt know that

[dense latch]

how defensive can a chien pao even be with max bulk

[molten oasis]

not that bulky

[craggy dagger]

https://pokepast.es/09bf9d9afb7ce7ae
specs for now cuz im dumb and life orb is taken

[dense latch]

it sacrifices so much offense for mediocre defense

[molten oasis]

you take neutral hits a littel better i guess

[rustic mountain]

exactly

[molten oasis]

but SE moves still aboslutely obliterate it

you have 2 sashes

[rustic mountain]

triple sash team

[atomic mural]

2 sashes

[craggy dagger]

oh oops

[molten oasis]

go scarf lando, and uh

[dense latch]

y no follow me on ogerpon

[molten oasis]

could go booster flutter to retain the boost out of sun

[dense latch]

you're better off dropping power whip imo

[molten oasis]

the ogerpon doesnt have follow me?

[craggy dagger]

i dont know
i really need something for hard TR setting

[molten oasis]

oh taunt ok

[craggy dagger]

it did-
im still scrambling for a way to shut down trick room

[molten oasis]

are you 100% sure you NEED shadow ball?

[rustic mountain]

go booster flutter, icy wind taunt protect moonblast

free up ur ogerpon to actually run versatile utility

[molten oasis]

pao should be like

mostly enough for CSR

plus like, doesnt LORB flare blitz obliterate it

[dense latch]

is ho-oh something you want to 100% use?

like is it the point of the team or would you drop it for another restricted

[craggy dagger]

ive got some interesting calcs for ho oh

[molten oasis]

have you ever considered amoonguss

[dense latch]

i also don't see that much defensive synergy between the mons here

[molten oasis]

that seems like the best option, put it over ogerpon

[dense latch]

like your only resistance to ice is chien pao and does that really count when it's taking like 50% from lance

[rustic mountain]

sun amoongus feels bad

[molten oasis]

wolfe won with korai incin amoonguss

[craggy dagger]

ehh
delete ice before they delete me
plus tera fire on korai offers fairy resist too

[rustic mountain]

tru but also wolfey

[molten oasis]

i think for waht she needs its fine

[craggy dagger]

maybe i leave dual res till later

[rustic mountain]

im not touching dual restricted yet

[solid frigate]

yeah i just rule out most of the wolfey teams lmao

[molten oasis]

imprison trick room fari

[craggy dagger]

68+ Atk Ho-Oh Dual Wingbeat (2 hits) vs. 156 HP / 44 Def Ogerpon-Hearthflame: 144-172 (82.2 - 98.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[molten oasis]

hear me out

[craggy dagger]

somehow
This
works

[molten oasis]

what if you used brave bird

[rustic mountain]

i love wen he wins cuz then i face ppl that have no idea how to play the team as well as him and i get free wins

[craggy dagger]

at max max it does this
68+ Atk Ho-Oh Dual Wingbeat (2 hits) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Ogerpon-Hearthflame: 156-184 (100 - 117.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[craggy dagger]

sash precautions

[molten oasis]

...

[dense latch]

i can't take a restricted with dual wingbeat seriously imma be honest

[molten oasis]

can hearthflame hold a sash?

[craggy dagger]

68+ Atk Ho-Oh Dual Wingbeat (2 hits) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Urshifu-Rapid-Strike: 132-160 (75 - 90.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[molten oasis]

that doesn't even kill

[forest arrow]

Amoongus is still Amoongus in sun but yeah funny lol

[rustic mountain]

no bulk urshi lives

[dense latch]

idk these calcs are helping your case

[molten oasis]

just run brave bird lol

[rustic mountain]

wheres the sword of ruin boost atleast give urself a multiplier

[molten oasis]

you need SoR which is, fine tbh

are you really scared of shifu tho its a sun team

[dense latch]

68+ Atk Ho-Oh Sacred Fire vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Calyrex-Ice Rider in Sun: 174-206 (84 - 99.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[solid frigate]

thats why i tend to avoid Using them,i know i am not wolfey so i never bother to use it knowing that does not cater to my capabilities

[molten oasis]

in sun that kills which is, nice

[dense latch]

it's already in sun

[molten oasis]

it is? oh thats ass lmao

[craggy dagger]

[rustic mountain]

tbf its not every wolfey team but the perish based ones 100%

[molten oasis]

im sorry

just, the math is not mathing nova

[rustic mountain]

bruh its in the calc

[molten oasis]

im illiterate

[solid frigate]

which is like

what 40% of his teams

[rustic mountain]

this gen ? yea

he didnt use perish i think at all in swsh

[molten oasis]

usually his teams make more sense but then theres the perish trap stuff lmao

[dense latch]

i just feel like

[atomic mural]

he is 3/3 in wins

[rustic mountain]

well they make sense but he just understands them on a different level

[molten oasis]

world champ diff

[dense latch]

if you want a sacred fire user entei doesn't take up your restricted slot

and is immune to intim

[rustic mountain]

nova likes trynna make more niche things work

[atomic mural]

i know hes never gonna bring it to worlds but it would be funny if the streak kept going

[solid frigate]

Perish isn't possible in SWSH cuz like

Gmax nukes

[dense latch]

that's fair

[molten oasis]

i do as well, theres nothing wrong with it

[rustic mountain]

im aware just noting it

[molten oasis]

its just, hard to build mons that just, kinda suck

ho-oh's like, okay ig

[dense latch]

there's certainly niches to be filled with restricteds

[molten oasis]

not being able to kill CIR in sun kinda sucks tho

[rustic mountain]

its passable in dual restricted

[molten oasis]

yea

[solid frigate]

and its one of the things i admire her on(As a friend)

Dedication man

[rustic mountain]

i respect the creativity

[dense latch]

same

[rustic mountain]

i just think sometimes the basis of it needs to be questioned

[dense latch]

i've become too much of a meta slave to even come up with new ideas myself

[solid frigate]

there is a reason my teams feels more unique cuz Nova and Luna just made me be like that lmao

[molten oasis]

and like, sometimes they do work

[rustic mountain]

keep playing cir

[molten oasis]

theres nothing wrong with being a meta slave

[solid frigate]

i somehow made Semi Stall Pagos for some reason-

[dense latch]

i just like eleki 😭

[rustic mountain]

leki isnt meta tho

[molten oasis]

leki is kinda not very good lol

[dense latch]

but it's not like a new idea, im legit just using the navjit six

[rustic mountain]

ahhh ok

[molten oasis]

makes sense

i want wake to work, so bad, with zac

but like, shifu exists lol

[rustic mountain]

i mostly use other good teams myself, its w/e teambuilding effectively is tough

[rustic mountain]

boyt had a cool wake team

not zacian but still

[dense latch]

sometimes it feels like i try to give a team a spin of my own and it just ends up becoming a worse version of the original team

[molten oasis]

i saw it was cool

[left bobcat]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2328093498

[dense latch]

at most i'll change tera types or spreads to my liking

[left bobcat]

well well

[dense latch]

and then use that team for the entire format

[molten oasis]

wake needs sun to work so like, i just dont think i can get it to work to the level i want it to

[dense latch]

i used mdb pult sneasler for like 2 and a half months in reg h

[solid frigate]

from wake to woke

I'm sorry-

[dense latch]

once i find a team i like i just cant leave it

[molten oasis]

i did so well with snealer pult on ladder then got so bored

[forest arrow]

https://pokepast.es/b93d458cbc399797

[molten oasis]

dengo balance with a9 was really fun tho

[forest arrow]

The only Zac set you need

[dense latch]

stockholm syndrome

[forest arrow]

👀😂🤭

[molten oasis]

man cmon play rough isnt origin pulse

[forest arrow]

Bro I missed 14/17 yesterday

[rustic mountain]

probably because u have overlooked specific nuances to the choices that were made by usually more then 1 person and their collective input that influences why everything is the way it is. its hard to truly know wat ur changing or how that change affects the mu roulette if ur not getting it answered by one of the contributors themselves

[forest arrow]

Fuck that move lmaoo

[molten oasis]

skill issue

actually tho thats insane how did that happen

[dense latch]

i picked up renzo navarro's bax sneasler team at the end of the reg and did so well though i miss that team

[molten oasis]

the odds of that have to be so low

[solid frigate]

that regional is literally stockholm syndrome-

[rustic mountain]

doesnt need to necessarily be a direct answer either, like for instance navjit did a team breakdown on adis channel on his worlds team

[dense latch]

i struggle so much to figure out my bad matchups and stuff

i just think it's a skill issue

[craggy dagger]

cuz some of them actually work-
bulky chien pao just wasn’t it 😭😭

[molten oasis]

unfort

[forest arrow]

What’s a chi yu moment when you have a zac moment

Play rough just doesn’t hit for me lmao

[molten oasis]

stop bullying my dog

[craggy dagger]

i’m genuinely trying to remember why i tried using bulky pao

[molten oasis]

[molten oasis]

understandable

[atomic mural]

yeha i mean it only misses 10% of the time

[molten oasis]

uh, scale shot hates my guts

[forest arrow]

I don’t hate the dog tho, it’s definitely gonna be good come Double Res

[dense latch]

yea this is super true it kinds feels weird to play around with an established team and swapping around stuff

[rustic mountain]

well yea ofc but in general like even winding up w/ bulky pao. sure u live those specifics hits u mentioned but wat damage r u doing in return to those same threats? can u ko rilla in 1 shot as effectively? or threaten enough other mons that allowing urself that xtra turn on the field nets u a positive gain

[molten oasis]

bulky pao will miss ko's and explode in the process

[craggy dagger]

yeah that’s fair

[dense latch]

it's like im rebuilding a car and i take a wheel off without knowing

[molten oasis]

swordfish my beloved

cuz its gonna be the only thing im using

[rustic mountain]

im not saying u cant, im saying there has to be thought out intention on why u are changing what u are changing and understanding what domino affect that yields. vgc is all about trade offs, every decision u make whether in teambuilding or in the game itself

[foggy lodge]

That's why I barely make changes when I pick up other people's teams

Like at most I change a coverage move or something

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/e80bcc80a7e6fa73 this is like the pinacle of my building in reg g 2

[left bobcat]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2328096012 I couldve played that better

[molten oasis]

although i'd probably go sacred tera fairy zac

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/dedb9e7158922be7

CIR Dialga

Bottom text

[foggy lodge]

Don't use tera fairy pao pls

[molten oasis]

thats not what i meant lmao

[craggy dagger]

funnily enough, zacian was my best team of reg G wave 2

https://pokepast.es/f02f339e520afb9e

[molten oasis]

oh yea that team, cool team

[left bobcat]

ill copy that

thanks

[molten oasis]

you guys love my zacian spread damn

[rustic mountain]

u love ur zacian spread

[foggy lodge]

I think I would drop the CC on Urshifu

Or the taunt

[left bobcat]

why cc?

[molten oasis]

dawg all my friends that played zac used my evs lol

[foggy lodge]

I like mystic water aqua jet way too much because you just click surging strikes and then they are in range of aqua jet lmao

[molten oasis]

i am flattered

[molten oasis]

yea im not pilled like that

[craggy dagger]

-# we don’t talk about close combat zacian-
-# that’s supposed to be sacred sword
-# you saw nothing

[dense latch]

i feel like i never click cc on my mystic water ursh anymore lol

[molten oasis]

im very adjusted to taunt

because taunt shifu is my CIR mu

[dense latch]

like it's a pagos delete botton and that's it

[craggy dagger]

close combat was to spite incin and remove them from existence 😭

[solid frigate]

60% on Tornadus

Enough said

[foggy lodge]

With sacred sword on Zacian yeah I don't think you need CC that much

Surging sacred probably kills Zama

[molten oasis]

incin is so annoying

[molten oasis]

not if it teras

[rustic mountain]

incin is the goat

[dense latch]

i should check my pasrs to see how much im actually clicking that

if it loads

[forest arrow]

I’ve grown to appreciate the kitty

[molten oasis]

i have grown to hate it

this is what playing dengo and zacian most of my career has done to me

[solid frigate]

212+ Atk Mystic Water Tera Water Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Aqua Jet vs. 252 HP / 92 Def Tornadus in Rain: 106-126 (56.9 - 67.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

I am gonna rotate Tornadus's Mustache with this Aqua Jet

[dense latch]

hm

[craggy dagger]

yeah it is

[foggy lodge]

btw can we talk about how Jamie Boyt didn't fight a single Kyogre on his whole stockholm run lmao

[molten oasis]

did he have a tech for kyogre?

[foggy lodge]

The MU roulette is crazy man

[dense latch]

i click sandsear too much

[molten oasis]

or was kyogre a really bad mu?

[foggy lodge]

uhhh

I guess brute bonnet walking wake are his kyogre match up

[rustic mountain]

idk but he got mollywhopped by hard tr

[foggy lodge]

It dies to Tornadus Kyogre anyways

[molten oasis]

rip

[rustic mountain]

u gotta

[foggy lodge]

Yeah that too

[rustic mountain]

drago jus never uses incin so he only understands 1 pov

[foggy lodge]

Hard TR is broken rn

[forest arrow]

Same case for Amoongus

[molten oasis]

[foggy lodge]

2nd at vancouver + winning stockholm

Michael is not even a hard TR player😭

[dense latch]

i tried it in a new alt and had my best record ever lol

[rustic mountain]

love the shroom

[molten oasis]

incin is the ultimate gatekeeper of things getting too strong

[rustic mountain]

exactly

[molten oasis]

i understand its value

[dense latch]

hard tr just got stale for me

[molten oasis]

i can hate the mon and understand its role lol

[forest arrow]

Shroom is in my top 3 for sure now

[dense latch]

im prob not using it right though

[solid frigate]

Hard TR is just not for me-

[rustic mountain]

but not using it doesnt let u truly understand it

[foggy lodge]

Atp i'm just testing funny teams on ladder

[molten oasis]

my playstyle has also adjusted kinda hard to offensive balance/hyper offense

[foggy lodge]

I have stayed at 1400 with those so It's fine I guess

I'm mostly creating teams for GS cup

[molten oasis]

i played best this format with like, hearth shifu zac stuff

[foggy lodge]

I'm going to create arubega Mirai 2.0 for GS cup trust me

[rustic mountain]

so far its been gavins 6 for me

[molten oasis]

that was the, mystic water kyogre team right?

[dense latch]

https://pokepast.es/5d42ac2aa42c1b68 i remember trying this out for a bit

[rustic mountain]

yep

[molten oasis]

yea that team's solid

[rustic mountain]

i think mystic is the way to go

[lofty tartan]

👀

[molten oasis]

i played more kyogre and understood how the mon worked

[foggy lodge]

Leftovers or Mystic water Kyogre are the best rn

[molten oasis]

that team feels a lot better when you understand how to position it

[foggy lodge]

AV kinda fell off but its still consistent for it

It can work

[rustic mountain]

its good

[molten oasis]

i think av kyo and zac seem solid

av kyo just helps out with the CSR a little more

[rustic mountain]

big time

honestly if u watch his team report it helps give a lot of insight

[molten oasis]

i wish i knew that a month ago lol

[rustic mountain]

hes mostly just vibes which i love cuz i am similar, he gives his take on game plans which i fully agree on

[left bobcat]

yeah

[rustic mountain]

u gta keep up w/ adis channel man, its goated

[foggy lodge]

I think that Agati/Dyl's Miraidon teams can work for GS cup like just removing a mon for a second restricted

[molten oasis]

adis?

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/9cf7662726b73529

[rustic mountain]

yea adi

ck49 on yt i link it here like all the time

[molten oasis]

gnna be hoenst, never heard of him

[rustic mountain]

hes part of tub

been in the vgc scene for awhile now hes had some solid results

[forest arrow]

Bro Alex and Adi?

[rustic mountain]

yea

[forest arrow]

How have you not heard of him lol

[molten oasis]

all i've been doing the last few months is playing bo1 occasionally and chatting

[rustic mountain]

idk i link the channel here a lot

[lofty tartan]

I'm usually quite out of the loop and I know the name xD

[molten oasis]

i have not been paying any attention

[forest arrow]

Hey Mika

[molten oasis]

to like, anyone outside of the people here and ig wolfey

[lofty tartan]

BLAP BLAP. Heyyooo

[molten oasis]

idk man, didn't fly by my radar

[foggy lodge]

Aditya was the finalist of Los Angels last year I think

[rustic mountain]

yea he had csr clef

[forest arrow]

I like getting others insights to the game, I actually watch Tubnation quite a bit

[rustic mountain]

they r one of my main go tos

[lofty tartan]

I'm just anticipating Reg I announcements

[foggy lodge]

Give me reg I

[molten oasis]

can i get a link of the channel?

[rustic mountain]

1 sec

[lofty tartan]

Hopefully I can tack down this new job and exit overnight work. It's such a drag

[molten oasis]

lol, go click calm mind again

[rustic mountain]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkjh_VTQqVw

[lofty tartan]

Give me more time to play and chill

[foggy lodge]

btw Scream tail ties are so annoying

[rustic mountain]

was that confirmed a speed tie?

we dont know how they were trained

[molten oasis]

first video i see when opening his channel is reg tier list and reg g tier list tier list and reg g tier list tier list tier list lmao

[foggy lodge]

Yeah almost all scream tails go 252 252

[dense latch]

holy shit im playing pokeaimmd in almost any ability

[rustic mountain]

that video was hilarious lmao

[rustic mountain]

gl u boutta get cooked

[rustic mountain]

id say its not as guaranteed especially in a tour setting where u want ur evs to net u just as much advantage as anything else i doubt ud just keep em the same but maybe

[foggy lodge]

no almost all are atleast on pagos heatran

The original paste from francesco was 252 speed timid cuz speed tie lol

[rustic mountain]

yea thats fair i just mean b/w both that and rios

[left bobcat]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9doublesubers-2328104251 TORRENT your team works well at least in the uber standpoint

[foggy lodge]

And like I remember his play was encore eric's scream tail and that play doesn't make sense unless you know its a tie atleast

[rustic mountain]

like rios mightve hit the speed bump and felt he outsped most relevant things and then invested other evs into more bulk

[rustic mountain]

yea thats fair, i think regardless tho u gta go for that and just hope u outspeed tie or not

not really much other option in that spot

[foggy lodge]

I originally ran my tail to outspeed scarf timid landorus

But then I got hit by the ties lol

[left bobcat]

Where did torrent go

[foggy lodge]

It also helps because without the booster you outspeed all Ogerpons

And even tera teal mask pon

[left bobcat]

Well then again who uses teal mask oger

Actually nvm

[dense latch]

lowkey wasn't that horrible

i got crit and missed a steel beam which kinda lost me the game

[left bobcat]

Yeah

Ah damn beat me to it

[solid frigate]

F

[dense latch]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9almostanyability-2328105629-2nkwobjbr88fwlk4ifpbkpt8b7k5cxbpw if anyone is interested lol

[rustic mountain]

i was messin w/ u, but he is extremely good at singles

[dense latch]

yea he's the whole reason i started playing that format

i stole that team off of his channel lmao

[rustic mountain]

oh word

[dense latch]

so uh

yea surprise factor was out of the question

i've been overthrown :((

time to go gambling again

[bold geode]

Hehehehehehe the vision
Kitty big strong

[shadow wind]

Bro I'm actually 5 games in how is this possible

Can a guy not get downpaired 🙏

[molten oasis]

Lmao

[astral kelp]

impossible

has justified arcanine with beat up been good

[shadow wind]

No

Maybe in Gen 8 with Dynamax?

But even then Lucario was better

[astral kelp]

+4 extreme speed

but yeah idk lol just seems fun

dude population bomb is a crazy fucking aility

200 bp

multiplied by 1.5 with technician

thats fucking insane

[shadow wind]

But when I have 5 seconds left it auto picks my moves

[tiny karma]

- [Fighting]

Resists (0.5x)

Bug, Dark, Rock

Neutral damage

Dragon, Electric, Fighting, Fire, Ghost, Grass, Ground, Ice, Normal, Poison, Steel, Stellar, Water

Weak (2x)

Fairy, Flying, Psychic

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

imma challenge myself to make something with this set

im a falinks lover

[molten oasis]

Bro

You challenge yourself everyday

[astral kelp]

yea but when i challenge myself its not like a CHALLENGE challenge ykyk

this is like II HAVE to use falinks lmao

i love falinks hes such a cool lil guy

[cyan smelt]

In b4 falinks gets one shot by dazzling gleam or electro drift

Or astral barrage

[astral kelp]

lets try this :3

[astral kelp]

well yes very true and correct

[molten oasis]

you want a true challenge?

[cyan smelt]

In b4 falinks gets encored

[astral kelp]

i won game 1 less go

[bold geode]

I'm already a challenged person

[molten oasis]

🤝

[bold geode]

Also bruh
I clogged my toilet big time

[molten oasis]

How much Mexican food

[bold geode]

None
Thankfully the time that it actually came up there was nothing like that in the toilet

[molten oasis]

So what did you eat

[bold geode]

All I had to do was clean up water out the floor that came from the tank

[bold geode]

I ate chicken tonight but I ate nachos earlier and I didn't shit like the whole day

[molten oasis]

You did eat Mexican food

[bold geode]

But yeah no those visits it flushed down so I didn't have to deal with that
Just water

[molten oasis]

Ic

[bold geode]

Still wasn't fun

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2328173088
csr just wins wtf

im going like full bulk csr

[cyan smelt]

Man I want to use registeel but I feel like too much threatens it e.g hands, lando, koraidon, chi yu, ogerpon, miraidon

[astral kelp]

clear bodys pretty good

this ability confuses me

whats the tankiest pokemon in the game?

[solid frigate]

cosmic Power Eternatus

But here’s a word of advice here in the video

[cyan smelt]

cosmic power eternatus has a bad case of all my friends are dead

and if you let the calys stack boosts then it won't matter how much you use cosmic power

[solid frigate]

it actually would matter since Pressure+Recovery stall exists

Now that does not mean its good,1 Crit and it’s over most of the time

Dark Shifu just blows right through

[cyan smelt]

plus it's really boring to play

[tiny karma]

Move: Cosmic Power

Raises the user's Defense and Special Defense by 1 stage.

Type

Psychic

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

20 (32)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Snatch

Affected by Snatch.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

yooo thats crazy

whats that video from

[astral kelp]

youd prolly run clear smog

[real prairie]

id love to face a cosmic power Eternatus to then have it red carded by my Incin

[astral kelp]

Am I a psychopath for loving strays like that

[cyan smelt]

cosmic power eternatus only to have it ignored by dozo

[astral kelp]

Dozo is a hard counter

Like haaaard

And clear smog among us

[cyan smelt]

dozo is a test for most things in the meta except for hands and miraidon

[astral kelp]

I feel. Like dozo just checks a bunch of niesh shit

[cyan smelt]

checks a bunch of setup and both calys too

[astral kelp]

Simple beam eternatus could be cool

I would try wheezing but I think wheezing sucks balls

Oh wth eternatus doesn't learn calm mind or nasty plot

[mint void]

Morning

[astral kelp]

Good morn

[cyan smelt]

doesn't need it with 140 spa

[astral kelp]

Yea Ig not lol

[real prairie]

Chuckles in Ludicolo

[cyan smelt]

yeah cosmic power eternatus is a prime target for encore

[real prairie]

Dondozo will ALWAYS protect at least once too

[cyan smelt]

they always protect to recover leftovers hp

[real prairie]

yup, encore time

sitting duck

as long as i can keep the rain up which is easy enough

[cyan smelt]

cycle fake out so they protect, encore time

[real prairie]

yep, if they Tera then Tsareena + Kyogre go ham with Ice attacks, if they don't, Ludicolo and Tsareena go ham with grass attacks

[cyan smelt]

grass knot does heaps of damage too because it's heavy

[real prairie]

oddly enough i only really suffer if the tatsugiri afterward is scarf icy wind and they still have CSR healthy in the back

[cyan smelt]

do you suffer if they lead geezing csr

[real prairie]

nope.

Tera water helping hands water spout

i outspeed

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 334: Altaria

Types

Dragon/Flying

Abilities

Natural Cure, Cloud Nine (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/70/90/70/105/80

Total

490

Other Formes

Altaria-Mega

Sableye version 4.28.1

[cyan smelt]

use sableye altaria gravity sing i dare you

and get destroyed by ice beam or dazzling gleam sadge

[real prairie]

Tera steel Altaria

[cyan smelt]

isn't flutterfish still a thing

[real prairie]

meh, not as common

[cyan smelt]

what other mons are usually on rain teams

[real prairie]

depends, do you mean Kyogre or just rain in general, because Zacian teams like to run rain, as do some CSR or Zama teams

[cyan smelt]

kyogre

urshifu obv

[real prairie]

kyogre teammates for 1600+ Elo

[cyan smelt]

makes sense

lando and chien pao would be a definite problem for altaria

[real prairie]

0+ sees Arch, Farig and Amoongus jump ahead of Chien Pao

so higher ranked players are leaning more into Chien-Pao

[cyan smelt]

makes sense

[real prairie]

funny, as when i added Chien to my rain team i got a lot of shit haha

[astral kelp]

Sing doesn't have high enough chance

[cyan smelt]

i don't see the problem with having chien pao on rain

[astral kelp]

Plus they too slow

[cyan smelt]

with gravity it does

[astral kelp]

I'm pretty sure it falls short

[cyan smelt]

and you can skill swap prankster

[tiny karma]

Move: Gravity

For 5 turns, the evasiveness of all active Pokemon is multiplied by 0.6. At the time of use, Bounce, Fly, Magnet Rise, Sky Drop, and Telekinesis end immediately for all active Pokemon. During the effect, Bounce, Fly, Flying Press, High Jump Kick, Jump Kick, Magnet Rise, Sky Drop, Splash, and Telekinesis are prevented from being used by all active Pokemon. Ground-type attacks, Spikes, Toxic Spikes, Sticky Web, and the Arena Trap Ability can affect Flying types or Pokemon with the Levitate Ability. Fails if this move is already in effect.

Type

Psychic

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

Move: Sing

Causes the target to fall asleep.

Type

Normal

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

55

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Authentic

Bypasses substitute.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Reflectable

Affected by Magic Coat and Magic Bounce.

Sound

Does not affect Soundproof.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

0.6

[real prairie]

basically gives sing the same odds as Willowisp or thunder wave

[astral kelp]

88% is kinda shit

Like not worth the gravity

[cyan smelt]

well you're never gonna have a 100% accurate status move unless it's toxic

[astral kelp]

Bro what does alteria even do thag mon sounds ass lmao

[cyan smelt]

cancels weather

basically rayquaza without e-speed

[astral kelp]

Ehhhh

[tiny karma]

Altaria's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Astonish, Body Slam, Brave Bird, Breaking Swipe, Bulldoze, Double-Edge, Dragon Claw, Dragon Rush, Dual Wingbeat, Earthquake, Endeavor, Facade, False Swipe, Fly, Frustration, Fury Attack, Giga Impact, Iron Tail, Natural Gift, Outrage, Peck, Play Rough, Pluck, Pursuit, Rage, Return, Rock Smash, Secret Power, Sky Attack, Steel Wing, Take Down, Thief, Trailblaze

Special Moves

Air Cutter, Alluring Voice, Dazzling Gleam, Disarming Voice, Draco Meteor, Dragon Breath, Dragon Pulse, Dream Eater, Echoed Voice, Fire Blast, Fire Spin, Flamethrower, Heat Wave, Hidden Power, Hurricane, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Ice Beam, Incinerate, Moonblast, Mud-Slap, Ominous Wind, Round, Snore, Solar Beam, Swift, Tera Blast, Twister, Uproar, Weather Ball

Status Moves

Agility, Attract, Captivate, Confide, Cotton Guard, Defog, Double Team, Dragon Cheer, Dragon Dance, Endure, Feather Dance, Growl, Haze, Heal Bell, Helping Hand, Hone Claws, Mimic, Mirror Move, Mist, Perish Song, Power Swap, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Refresh, Rest, Roar, Roost, Safeguard, Sing, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Tailwind, Toxic, Will-O-Wisp, Wonder Room

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Altaria.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

Rain dance plus cloud 9 crazg combo

[cyan smelt]

gets sunny day too

[astral kelp]

It is one of the few mons thag leans perish sing

Wtf is wonder room

[cyan smelt]

it's not buff like scream tail though

[tiny karma]

Move: Wonder Room

For 5 turns, all active Pokemon have their Defense and Special Defense stats swapped. Stat stage changes are unaffected. If this move is used during the effect, the effect ends.

Type

Psychic

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

THIS IS SO DUMB LMAO

[real prairie]

Could be funny to fuck with Zamazenta lol

[cyan smelt]

alluring voice is funny to fuck with zamazenta

[tiny karma]

Move: Alluring Voice

Has a 100% chance to confuse the target if it had a stat stage raised this turn.

Type

Fairy

Category

Special

Power

80

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Authentic

Bypasses substitute.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sound

Does not affect Soundproof.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[real prairie]

yeah, alurring voice and burning jelousy turn 1

[cyan smelt]

pretty useless moves otherwise

[solid frigate]

yeah i remember tha-

[solid frigate]

no this actually benefit Zama more than fuck with it

[knotty mirage]

Does wonder room also have same prio as trick room ?

[solid frigate]

cuz stat changes does not change and Zama usually dont run that much Special Bulk

[solid frigate]

idk

[real prairie]

yeah, so it would lose all its Def bulk even with the +1

[knotty mirage]

Oh okay just wondering if it could work with prankster mon

For the funny

[left bobcat]

Ooo

Poo

[solid frigate]

but in a nutshell

Lets say Zama has 100/228/84 Bulk

With Dauntless it will be 100/228(+1)/84

But with Wonder Room it will be 100/84(+1)/228

It technically makes it equally bulky

[real prairie]

fair

i stand corrected 😄

[solid frigate]

so yeah it can potentially live EP from Lando

[left bobcat]

Lemonades

[austere sun]

mayonnaise

mayonnaise on an escalator it’s goin upstairs so see ya latereee

[next stump]

what

[chrome knot]

what

[solid frigate]

what

[mighty stump]

what

[dense latch]

what

[atomic mural]

what

[next stump]

rewatching stockholm cause i never saw top cut, eric rios v fedecampo was crazy

wonder how much the crit game 1 mattered

[bold geode]

Hey Tofu

[solid frigate]

that Grassy Glide did not kill Smeargle makes me wanna go back to Gen 8 Glide

cuz i just hate Smeargle

[bold geode]

Hi silly

[mighty stump]

LOOK AT WHAT MY GIRLFRIEND GOT ME

[plain drum]

[plain drum]

Scary

[molten oasis]

thats cool

[real prairie]

You are 1 step away from being a certifed nurse joy

[molten oasis]

get a real pokemon

[real prairie]

Okay 2 steps

[molten oasis]

lmao

[craggy dagger]

oooo
that’s cool

[chrome knot]

oh please tofu in that

[mighty stump]

I am already a certified nurse joy excuse u

[molten oasis]

but you need a pokemon

[real prairie]

Fogive me Tofu!

[left bobcat]

What?

[molten oasis]

thats wild

[bold geode]

Bro can operate on Pokemon now

[real prairie]

Alright last one, but this one had me laughing 🤣

[molten oasis]

lmao

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/tired-office-sleepy-exhausted-gif-19486265

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2328549120

[left bobcat]

Uhhhh HERRO?

[lost sun]

how common is grass terra cir

[next stump]

not very anymore

[lost sun]

ye checked it said about 3%

which is good cus most people terra it to water or fairy and both are weak to my arch

y fairy tho it's still week to steel

[next stump]

immune to miraidon and there are very few steel attacks in the format

so you kinda hope to be neutral to most things

[left bobcat]

Meh

[rustic mountain]

yea i dont see grass cir at all anymore

[jade dust]

https://pokepast.es/b75aa4f9d552f739

I made this rain team

Any thoughts on it?

Im playing around with it and Im trying to make adjustments

Im trying to make a bulky tailroom rain team

[left bobcat]

Water spout?

[jade dust]

Yes

[left bobcat]

Understandable have a nice day

[jade dust]

I made Wo Chein faster than Kyoger to heal with pollen puff before Kyoger uses water spout

[left bobcat]

Ohhhhh

I see now

[jade dust]

I was intially using Maushold with friend guard to boost Achaludon's def to max but it was kinda overwhelming

[left bobcat]

Arch in this reg?

[jade dust]

It's strong with Kyoger

Helps agaisnt Zama and Caly ice a lot

[left bobcat]

Ok maybe cir

[solid frigate]

My rental Greninja:Nuh uh

[lost sun]

do this with brute bonnet and u got a fast spore user

[bold geode]

So you literally did what Shilliang already done

[jade dust]

I did think on that tho the Atk lowering passive from Wo Chein was nice

[mint void]

Didnt claim originality

[mint void]

with Michaels CIR being grass its prolly gonna be more though, u dont think?

[lost sun]

hopefully not

wouldn't let me e shot it for ez wins

[next stump]

michael was fire type

[mint void]

ok then Im remembering wrong mb

[next stump]

no worries, i thought he was grass before watching the match

usually you see grass on hard TR

[mint void]

i think he substituted it with his redirectors

[lost sun]

is it cus of typing why brute bonnet is not used

[next stump]

typing is a lot worse

and ability is typically worse

[mint void]

its not like you are getting fast spore with it either most of the time. Its still only a base 50 something speed stat

[lost sun]

bulkier than moonguss and faster so if u put a lot of speed its faster than csr in tw

[mint void]

u need max jolly though

which drops a ton of bulk

[lost sun]

pair it with guss and double spore then pollen puff eachother

[next stump]

on paper bulkier but the typing makes it less bulky given the meta

[lost sun]

🗣️

[real prairie]

If you are going mystic water 3 attacks, you want water spout, origin pulse/hydro pump and 1 coverage move

[solid frigate]

usually ice beam cuz Rilla and let something like Bolt to do electric damage

[foggy lodge]

Quiet 9 iv speed Kyogre oh god

What is Tornadus even doing anymore

[solid frigate]

if you run TR Kyogre just run something else

[molten oasis]

Man what is that

[solid frigate]

shiliang Ogre concept but ruined everything

[lost sun]

hows this guy gonna double crit me with astral barrage then dodge my origin pulse on the first move

[solid frigate]

Pokemn amirite

[lost sun]

his moon blast even lowered my spa

the guy was destined to win from the start

he might've thrown lowk

nvm he encored now my pollen puff didn't land to heal

[lost sun]

this can't even be real the very next battle the guy opened up with another double crit

[jade dust]

That is to not need to invest in speed and work inside and outside of trick room

[solid frigate]

run 12 Speed EVs Kyogre at least you can outspeed Shadow rider in TW

[foggy lodge]

just a fun fact that Kyogre in tailwind is slower than a Scream Tail without proto boost

If you want Wo-Chien Ogre for pollen puff spout just make turbo Wo-Chien

[solid frigate]

just make sure to be a bit bulky and run Foul Play against Shadow rider and ice rider

[molten oasis]

Truck room

[solid frigate]

ruck room

[left bobcat]

Greninja goated tho

[solid frigate]

even with AV Ogre its still a 2HKO-3HKO for Gren (specs)

[astral kelp]

mornin

[solid frigate]

252 SpA Choice Specs Protean Greninja Grass Knot (120 BP) vs. 252 HP / 12 SpD Assault Vest Kyogre: 132-156 (63.7 - 75.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

NVM

THATS HIGHER THAN EXPECTED

[left bobcat]

Mornin

[left bobcat]

Lesss goooo

[feral valley]

hey guys i have a question

thoughts on me swapping incin for mimikyu?

i need a nonchalant will o wisper

[solid frigate]

why.

[feral valley]

.

every calyrex ice i try to will o wisp with incin just tera fires

[lofty tartan]

Define "nonchalant" Will-o-Wisp user.

Mimikyu over Incin doesn't help the Tera Fire problem.

[feral valley]

why on earth would a calyrex ice tera fire against a mimikyu. ppl would against incin cuz will o wisp is obvious

i need a mon where its not obvious thats the play

[lofty tartan]

People know that Mimikyu carries WoW

[feral valley]

oh

[left bobcat]

Why

[feral valley]

well i need a diff mon then

[feral valley]

to stop calyrex ice

[left bobcat]

Just use the cat

[lofty tartan]

It's not like a surprise, and Mimikyu has far less application/viability than Incin

Just adding one mon over Incin definitely will not stop the Honse.

Really nothing wrong with Incin. They're fire or they're grass, usually. Fire has risen a lot lately because of MDB's team, I believe.

[feral valley]

whats mdb

[lofty tartan]

Michael DerBeste

[feral valley]

tf is that

[lofty tartan]

A pro player that finished 2nd and then 1st at recent Regional Champs with Calyrex-Ice, I'm pretty sure.

I've been just watching Reg G 2.0 because rehashed formats are not my bag, baby.

Yeah - Michael DerBeste - otherwise known as Michael Kelsch https://pokepast.es/2223c660c97c9ab5

That's his first place Stockholm Regionals list.

Fire Tera Calyrex-Ice is in right now. 🤷

[feral valley]

what do u think season 29 will be? new reg? old reg?

[lofty tartan]

Season's are different than Regulations - there's multiple seasons in a single Regulation

[dense latch]

new reg is in may

[lofty tartan]

^^^

[feral valley]

i know but its been a while since reg g came back

[lofty tartan]

And new Regulation hasn't been announced yet, though it's reasonable to believe it's Double Restricted Legendaries

[feral valley]

oof

[lofty tartan]

Yeah Regulations last like 3 months

Four months

Jan, Feb, March, April - then May 1st should be Reg I

I checked out at the end of Reg H - Toronto Regionals took a lot of gas.

[astral kelp]

i wonder what i can do with the lugg

[lofty tartan]

Short answer: not much

[astral kelp]

x4 weakness to fighting type with 200 defence is hilarious

[lofty tartan]

Otherwise pretty bad.

Also just incredibly fragile when facing special attackers. Flutter Mane and Miraidon gonna knuckle this guy

Calyrex Shadow

Eh.

[astral kelp]

it got sturdy tho

[lofty tartan]

I know I know - get him out during trick room and do stuff 🤷

[astral kelp]

sturdy is kinda crazy

[lofty tartan]

Yeah like a Fake Out and an Astral Barrage - gg shake my hand

[astral kelp]

it just kinda doesnt do anything tho lmao

[lofty tartan]

This is the crux

Like you can play him and make a challenge out of it but yeah

[foggy lodge]

Even Bastiodon is better

And Bastiodon is not that good

Tho Bastiodon is hilarious

[lofty tartan]

I'll agree with that.

I'm all for dark horse picks, but Avalugg ain't it

[foggy lodge]

Mika are you going to Milwaukee?

[lofty tartan]

Nah I'm checked out until Reg I.

I've been taking a long break and it has definitely recharged my batteries.

Been taking the time to work on myself - health, finances, etc, so that I can better compete later on. :]

[foggy lodge]

Ohh cool cool, good luck for everything

[lofty tartan]

It's gone well. Thanks 😄

Hype for Champions - hype for Megas. It's a good time to be a pokemon fan

I'm looking forward to the very real possibility of bringing my boi Mega Kangaskhan

Emboar and Feraligatr potentially getting Megas has my dopamine flaring xD

[solid frigate]

i'm desperately wanna try Mega Salamence man bro is so cool

[lofty tartan]

Yeah man - Megas are rad.

Mega Gengar, my beloved.

The shiny that we could have had.

[solid frigate]

probably

[lofty tartan]

I mean - Mega Gengar has a vastly superior shiny form than normal Gengar

So that, on top of Shadow Tag and massive speed/sp Attack is just icing. He's awesome.

[solid frigate]

they kinda improved Garchomp's Shiny by Mega

hey at least pink is better than less saturated

[lofty tartan]

I like pink shinies.

Pink, green, blue, black, white, purple - top tiers

[solid frigate]

i think Bronzong's Shiny is recommendable to shiny hunt

I like the emerald colour

[lofty tartan]

I like Bronzong's shiny.

[solid frigate]

its one of my eariler shinies in SV

[lofty tartan]

I was just cruising around doing story stuff when the game came out and ran over a shiny Lechonk.

That thing has been in Home pretty much ever since lol

[solid frigate]

hey,Lechonk the GOAT

I think i ran across a Shiny snowrunt when i was in Ghost Gym Area
i just name it Obamasnow

[lofty tartan]

I think I've gotten about 75% of every shiny in SV - I haven't even been playing Pokemon recently lol

[solid frigate]

i haven't been shiny hunt for a while ever since i picked up VGC

what is it early Janurary?

[mint void]

What you been doing?

[mint void]

Ditto

[solid frigate]

Ditto

[astral kelp]

omg

iwould kill for mega ditto

[lofty tartan]

Fixing my credit score. Just was approved for a credit card to start busting out points. Working out 4 times a week, eating better, and potentially making a career move for an extra six dollars an hour because Pokemon Regionals ain't friggen cheap

If I get the job I'll start working with the homeless in a neighboring city, which I used to be homeless in.

I had basically ruined my credit right out of high school and after I got married I was able to fall off the radar for seven years out of forgetfulness lol

Didn't take out a new line of credit - all of my bad credit was expunged.

Now I'm unscored and able to work my credit positively

[solid frigate]

i guess its a good thing to help people that has same experience before

[mint void]

Its a wordplay bro

[astral kelp]

hmmmm what should i run as my berry fling bot lmao

[astral kelp]

ye ik just saying

could you imagine how epic it would be

what would they even do with him

[lofty tartan]

It's kind of a personal thing when it's like that - sometimes all these people need is some food and someone to talk to - I mean obviously they need housing and income but I can't legitimately provide that.

I'd basically be getting them off business properties and into viable shelters

[left bobcat]

And they diveeeeeeeeee in it

[mint void]

Goated. On a similar path but for very different reasons rn. My past years sucker real hard

[lofty tartan]

Yeah there's a million reasons to not do things and you've gotta focus on the reasons to improve. 😄

I've been trying to re-establish my business and honestly I need a loan, so I need credit 🤷

[mint void]

Yep.

What do you do?

[lofty tartan]

Like for work now?

[mint void]

Yes

[lofty tartan]

Oh it's a terrible job. I'm basically a cashier. 🤷

I work overnights

[mint void]

Oh I rather meant for your business

[lofty tartan]

Oh I was a systems integrator, essentially. I'd build, sell, and service professional and personal computers.

[mint void]

Oh neat.

[lofty tartan]

The market is super cutthroat and the part cost is scaling incredibly high so I've been looking to just open a TCG storefront in my area. Nothing super fancy, but I'd be able to hold VGC events and leverage my pokemon professor status more while enabling more events.

Covid pandemic really crippled my business

I had finished my first operating year when it hit.

[mint void]

Yeah I havent tracked it intensiveoy but I havent noticed, especially chips, recovering in price

[lofty tartan]

I'd salvage machines a lot and I'd have to be in-person to do so

[mint void]

Unfortunate timing

[lofty tartan]

Yuuup

[mint void]

Best luck on your new stuff

[lofty tartan]

But I learned how to install custom liquid cooling during the whole thing so skills to grow lol

I've been taking classes for cybersec recently as well - always looking to improve 💪

Gotta have marketable skills and options xD

[mint void]

Valid. I have some friends being trainees and students in the same sector

[lofty tartan]

It's interesting, and a lot of my previous certifications roll into it so it's fairly natural progression

[mint void]

Im on a super different path myself lol

[lofty tartan]

No doubt

[tiny karma]

Eternatus [Poison/Dragon]

Resists (0.25x)

Grass

Resists (0.5x)

Bug, Electric, Fighting, Fire, Poison, Water

Neutral damage

Dark, Fairy, Flying, Ghost, Normal, Rock, Steel, Stellar

Weak (2x)

Dragon, Ground, Ice, Psychic

Type Notes

Poison-types cannot be Poisoned.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[mint void]

I mean career wise. Im trynna work in government/politics

[lofty tartan]

Yeahhhh I aimed at that, once upon a time, when I was in college xD

[astral kelp]

oh damn

what part of it?

[mint void]

How do you mean? Like Id see EU in Brussels.

I dont live to far already so its still cool with family and stuff

[lofty tartan]

Yeah I went and had a kid so I veered away from that lol