depends
Personally would not get the thing in your head but its up to you
#competitive_discussion
atomic mural
the fact he said gg
craggy dagger
i’m not angry-
just in extreme disbelief about their luck
real prairie
3 OHKO moves landed that game, thats fucking pain
molten oasis
yes
left bobcat
i’m not angry-
just in extreme disbelief about their luck
Damn I thought that was you
solid frigate
3 OHKO moves landed that game, thats fucking pain
thats nothing compare to my luck in skyblock (I have Luck Boost enchants) today but like
2OHKO moves in a row is just absurd
craggy dagger
Damn I thought that was you
left bobcat
I was like damn who is getting that lucky
craggy dagger
thats nothing compare to my luck in skyblock (I have Luck Boost enchants) today ...
3
not two
craggy dagger
you get my pain?
solid frigate
bro just ask him to pull for us in HSR
real prairie
The odds of hitting the target exactly 3 times out of 7 attempts, with a 30% hit rate, is approximately 22.69%
but thats based on 7 turns, they didn't try 7 times, let me redo the math
craggy dagger
https://tenor.com/view/yumeko-jabami-%E8%9B%87%E5%96%B0-%E5%A4%A2%E5%AD%90-kakeg...
no
real prairie
turns out it was 7 attempts
hard lantern
wouldnt ghost be better against ursh?
craggy dagger
but i’m also curious as to whether i would have actually lost that or not cuz of my -1
craggy dagger
wouldnt ghost be better against ursh?
surging strikes is water type so no
solid frigate
surging strikes is water type so no
i was gonna say like what the heck are you talking about
Until i saw the context
craggy dagger
252+ SpA Kyogre Water Spout (72 BP) vs. -1 132 HP / 28 SpD Zacian-Crowned: 73-87 (39.6 - 47.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery
i would have won that…
spiral ridge
:(
real prairie
water spout base power would have dropped after a hit from zacian too
craggy dagger
ok then ig grass it is
also adding tera ghost would just invoke another ghost/dark type weakness
craggy dagger
water spout base power would have dropped after a hit from zacian too
that calc is at 48%
so at full power prolly not
hard lantern
alr i gotta go work on some stuff but this is what i have rn
https://pokepast.es/00feb61326037036
I need 2 more pokemon prob ursh and smth
roaring can go but i think it kinda covers some bases
craggy dagger
its it safe to assume this set
252+ SpA Mystic Water Kyogre Water Spout (72 BP) vs. 132 HP / 28 SpD Zacian-Crowned: 58-69 (31.5 - 37.5%) -- 82.1% chance to 3HKO
hard lantern
alr i gotta go work on some stuff but this is what i have rn
https://pokepast.es...
just reply to the message if anyone has ideas
i might be late to reply tho
and thanks to everyone who has helped me so far
slim urchin
@hard lantern Amoonguss is always a safe bet with trick room teams. HP:252 Attack: -Defense: 252+ Special attack: 4
solid frigate
<@776174035654410280> Amoonguss is always a safe bet with trick room teams. HP:...
what the fuck is that spread
slim urchin
Mega bulky, spore/rage powder spammer
Try it out before you hate on it lol
Just carried me to top 1k on ladder!
mint void
@slim urchin nah there are more optimal spreads depending on what u need
slim urchin
I dont disagree with that. Just depending on what you need
chrome knot
im SpDef amoonguss rn😭
mint void
Full Def sucks as it opens you up to Special hits
chrome knot
made a spread that doesn’t die to csr psychic lmfao
mint void
What set tho?
slim urchin
I just went attack because everybody running ice rider and urshifu. TIRED of getting one tapped by one glacial lance
molten oasis
a specially bulky amoonguss
slim urchin
Full defense*
mint void
Spore it
mint void
Bring it in under TR?
solid frigate
Amogus (Amoonguss) @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Regenerator
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 220 HP / 76 Def / 212 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 27 Spe
- Pollen Puff
- Protect
- Rage Powder
- Spore
This allows to live CSR Astral Barrage from +1 Life Orb and CIR Glacial Lance in Tang Spread no Tera
+1 252 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Astral Barrage vs. 220 HP / 76 SpD Amoonguss: 195-230 (89.8 - 105.9%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
116+ Atk Calyrex-Ice Glacial Lance vs. 220 HP / 76+ Def Amoonguss: 204-240 (94 - 110.5%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO
wait wrong calc
slim urchin
Im not gonna disagree there is better spreads. Im just saying for me (Swords dance, rayquaza), I needed him to just rage powder and take hits
That is why I used that spread. Just whatever you need him for imo
WIth all of this said lol, I still think amoonguss is one of the best mon's in trick room. SPORE op!!
chrome knot
why do you even use Ray in the first place
im being niche and different😱
slim urchin
Lol - I have all my other mon's locked because I am signed up to play in a tournament and made a fun team. Went Ray team and turned out to be really good. won like 20/30 games with it. I would consider it a success
This was the squad... got top 1k on ladder with it
solid frigate
ok i am covinced showdown ladder is harder than cart at this point-
chrome knot
great heavens those spreads
slim urchin
pretty straitforward if you ask me ;p
molten oasis
why are you max defnese impish rillaboom
chrome knot
im hating
slim urchin
lol!!
molten oasis
im also hating
mint void
Bro acting like we never played before
slim urchin
Im not acting like that at all... Idk what you want me to say 
solid frigate
i am also hating
slim urchin
Urshifu is dead before he can surging strikes
Swords dance extreme speed ray one taps everything
mint void
Zama says no
solid frigate
molten oasis
it, still, matters
mint void
cir and farig probably too
molten oasis
ok so whats the 4 spD for
slim urchin
farig shits on the team, ngl
solid frigate
and Shadow Rider but yeah
slim urchin
nahh shadow rider never gives me issues
4spd is because there was a hopip right next to me when I was ev training and was to lazy to go find a defense mon
bold geode
chrome knot
slim urchin
Neither would I... The main 6 im using are currently locked because I had to register them for a tournament
bold geode
thank you gary
Thank you Gary
gentle cragBOT
Thank you Gary
dollarmonke has given 1 Gen Rep to setsumizi
slim urchin
So, I just made a team with all prio moves. Then, I realized it wasnt terrible. So i tinkered with it and this was the final product. Its not great by any means. Just a fun team
spiral ridge
Do I still gotta hep w that
chrome knot
oh i meant just playing kyogre
spiral ridge
Oh
chrome knot
uhhh i might do gen7 rng bc i need 0atk one…
bold geode
its kyogre time.
Send team, I might need something for GC if this Zamazenta shit continues to not work out as well as I hoped
It's either a swap or fuck it we ball, whatchu think
spiral ridge
Yeahh
Lmk if you do want help then
chrome knot
and my only 0atk one is with mrs kathryn
spiral ridge
Ahhh
chrome knot
Send team, I might need something for GC if this Zamazenta shit continues to not...
only if u never share it anywhere else
:(
bold geode
only if u never share it anywhere else
Girl I wouldn't do that
Help lol
craggy dagger
im being niche and different😱
wait emma is using ray-
chrome knot
no im using kyogre silly
craggy dagger
oh
solid frigate
wait emma is using ray-
it someone with an attitude
next stump
nice 🙂 very excited for milwaukee
mighty stump
no im using kyogre silly
send
hard lantern
<@776174035654410280> Amoonguss is always a safe bet with trick room teams. HP:...
i already have physical defense
i was thinking urshifu and incin but im kinda dumb
so i might be missing obv picks
slim urchin
Can never go wrong with incin
slim urchin
That makes since.. Can not go wrong with either of those two mon's
hard lantern
hmmm maybe land ther and ushifu
slim urchin
ive never seen a stonejurner in a comp team before
hard lantern
but then im just replacing oger on the team that just won
dense latch
yea the vancouver winning team kinda perfected lunala
dense latch
but then im just replacing oger on the team that just won
that's fine honestly
if you really wanna use stonjourner
hard lantern
but idk why ogre was needed
dense latch
it's just kinda bad
hard lantern
and i dont wanna like ruin the balance
well i kinda want like a solid 5 mon team with stone as a pick to make things interesting
slim urchin
Yeah that makes sense. I think that its a solid team with incin and urshifu... You going rapid strike?
dense latch
but idk why ogre was needed
double redirection is really strong right now
lets you keep your lunala safe throughout the entire game
hard lantern
Yeah that makes sense. I think that its a solid team with incin and urshifu... ...
idk
i only got luna, stone, and indee set
dense latch
also grass and fire from ogerpon is decent coverage for the team
hard lantern
then what ursh has to go?
dense latch
yea it's just rough bc i just dont see what stonjourner contributes to this team
if you really wanna use it i'd try a different core honestly
slim urchin
ability is kinda op
hard lantern
damage
slim urchin
just soo squishy... impossible to keep alive
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
hard lantern
if you really wanna use it i'd try a different core honestly
what core then
hard lantern
rustic mountain
ur actively making a good team worse by replacing a good mon w/ stonjourner. if ur ok w/ that then do it
hard lantern
idk if this is anything
i was on google and i've been finding like nothing on stone boy
hard lantern
ur actively making a good team worse by replacing a good mon w/ stonjourner. if ...
ik. its not like imma cook something better than a tourney winner
rustic mountain
didnt mean it like that
slim urchin
I get it. Thats why pokemon is so fun. You get to use your own mon's... sure it may not be "meta" but if youre good enough with it... you can make it good
rustic mountain
moreso like, wen u pick niche picks they need to actually fit a role in what they are providing vs certain meta picks or enabling ur team in specific situations that actually net u consistency
dense latch
so usage stats show its used in hard trick room teams
i guess you could do something there
rustic mountain
picking something just to pick it isnt exactly giving u that
dense latch
the thing is stonjourner's niche isn't very useful
hard lantern
yea
rustic mountain
not atm
hard lantern
thanks for the feedback but stoneboi is kinda underwhelming
dense latch
there's better ways to boost damage that dont take a pokemon slot
hard lantern
so usage stats show its used in hard trick room teams
ig ill give up on speed control
too ambitious ig
slim urchin
lol... I have tried so many teams trying to make wo-chien, kyogre combo work
dense latch
trick room is speed control
hard lantern
well you know what i mean
slim urchin
I finally found one that is pretty solid.. took a long time
rustic mountain
especially since a lot of restricted either have built in damage boosts (kyogre, mirai, korai, zama) or can snowball their boosts w/ the right positioning (horses and their ability)
hard lantern
i mean i could do the horse stone
rustic mountain
wide guard is something else it has outside just damage boosting
slim urchin
astrial barriage will hit like a truck!!
hard lantern
it would ig i cant think about that too but full trick room luna doesnt sound too bad
astral kelp
who do you guys think is the best player of all time?
slim urchin
wolfie
rustic mountain
i think its objectively wolfey at this point
astral kelp
like if all the players were to fight at their peak
slim urchin
wolfey
dense latch
it's wolfe
rustic mountain
its p much either wolfey or ray and while rays peak was better, i think wolfeys longevity and consistency especially going into the modern era puts him above that
astral kelp
i feel like if ray kept playing as much as wolfey did
dense latch
like if all the players were to fight at their peak
like in this hypothetical honestly any great player could win just because of how much variation is in every game
hard lantern
its me
mint void
+Rays success was a long time ago. The average player is a lot better now.
astral kelp
+Rays success was a long time ago. The average player is a lot better now.
yea that feels like a big point
dense latch
but in terms of success and level of play wolfey is undisputably the goat imo
astral kelp
but in terms of success and level of play wolfey is undisputably the goat imo
in terms of just raw stats for sure
mint void
10 regionals
astral kelp
10 regionals worlds and a few more random stuff
astral kelp
its impressive that he does it with shit like perish song too
azure ether
I love how vgc has a Jordan vs LeBron debate
rustic mountain
+Rays success was a long time ago. The average player is a lot better now.
i factor in dominance for your time whether or not those things are true. for basketball, jordan played in a newly added expansion league before a lot of teams could pick up ground and you could argue in todays nba, players are skilled/more athletic then that time period but you cant fault a player for dominating in the time they did wind up playing. ppl still view jordan as the goat
its basically lebron vs jordan for the debate on wolfey vs ray
its essentially what you value more for what theyve done in the time they did play
next stump
IMO it’s more like bill russell than michael jordan
dude just has a crazy amount of rings back when plumbers played
hard lantern
ray is the most
bill russel has more rings but no one glazing him
astral kelp
but like imagine if ray kept playing as much as wolfe did
slim urchin
Jordan is by far the goat and its not close
dense latch
always felt like the goat argument in the nba and vgc were really similar
hard lantern
jordan is nothing
the team was good even without him
dense latch
liked what tubtakes did comparing nba and vgc players
azure ether
but like imagine if ray kept playing as much as wolfe did
Ray is playing in Japan, iirc
rustic mountain
dude just has a crazy amount of rings back when plumbers played
theres some notable players from then are still around though, it wasnt a complete plumbers league w/ only 8 teams
astral kelp
its really funny when you think abouty it HAHAHA
next stump
it’s an interesting what if but unfortunately you lose the GOAT debate if you leave during your peak while someone else goes crazy in your absence
slim urchin
I think Wolfie is just a better than anyone - take stats out. I feel like he is just better at the game
hard lantern
it’s an interesting what if but unfortunately you lose the GOAT debate if you le...
no thats kinda the argument that jordan glazers use
rustic mountain
i see wat ur saying tho dillon
dense latch
would people still consider mj the goat if he retired after his first threepeat?
rustic mountain
nah
hard lantern
he would be in a much better position if he didnt play after his 6
next stump
i’m the biggest lebron fan there is
rustic mountain
6 rings in a decade is what vaults him on top of defensive player of the year award as a guard bunch of scoring titles, mvps etc
hard lantern
and retired in Chicago
rustic mountain
like dude just dominated an entire decade essentially
dense latch
ray rizzo vs wolfe is basically jordan if he retired after his first threepeat vs lebron
rustic mountain
and only wen he was retired really was he not in the mix to win it all
wen he did his baseball stint and what not
hard lantern
does anyone even have 2 world wins?
astral kelp
ray
rustic mountain
ray has 3
hard lantern
other than him
astral kelp
nope
azure ether
Ray is the only champion that's canonically in the game too
hard lantern
so id say its more like jordan
rustic mountain
wolfey was in one of the games
astral kelp
Ray is the only champion that's canonically in the game too
lol true
hard lantern
cuz its worth so much more
craggy dagger
wasn’t ray a secret final boss for 25th anniversary players cup-
which wolfe landed 5th place for-
astral kelp
wolfe lost his first worlds to rays third i think?
dense latch
yep
hard lantern
wolfe got influence tho so id personally go for wolfe
craggy dagger
wolfe lost his first worlds to rays third i think?
i think so yeah
rustic mountain
wasn’t ray a secret final boss for 25th anniversary players cup-
which wolfe lan...
idk bout wolfeys placement in that 1 but yea ray was the secret final trainer
next stump
the issue is that skill wise, winning 2011 worlds is not as difficult as winning even a stacked regional nowadays
like i know the accomplishment has crazy name value
but it was fking best of 1 most of the way with barely any attendees
rustic mountain
the games changed a lot
hard lantern
well wolfe won his back then too so it isnt like he is going crazy in worlds
regional yes
dense latch
the issue is that skill wise, winning 2011 worlds is not as difficult as winning...
endurance too
next stump
30 players!!!!!
rustic mountain
he was kinda that first guy tho that was really innovating and pushing the meta more then anyone else. bulky thundurus was like nowhere before he started and won w/ it
molten oasis
30 players? waht a different time
dense latch
going through 10+ swiss rounds in two days must be really exhausting
esp when stakes are high
azure ether
The world was never the same after bulky support thundy happened
hard lantern
i like he goes for more unique strats
rustic mountain
but yea i think most ppl would put wolfey over ray at this point
hard lantern
just like lebron
azure ether
All wolfey needs is a 2nd worlds title and it won't be a debate anymore
hard lantern
the goat
hard lantern
All wolfey needs is a 2nd worlds title and it won't be a debate anymore
not really jordan has 6 bron has 4
rustic mountain
rings arent everything otherwise russell would be the goat
hard lantern
thats why they say plumbers
rustic mountain
but also i think that debate is much closer and id still say most ppl pick jordan over lebron even today
foggy lodge
the issue is that skill wise, winning 2011 worlds is not as difficult as winning...
After EUIC
rustic mountain
i think its over glaze tho tbh
it is and it isnt. i think lebrons better but its tough to argue against jordans dominance. most ppl arent looking at the nuanced takes like him vsing the warriors and having key guys go down in the finals, not to mention he had no business taking his sorry ass team in 07 to the finals and facing a far better spurs team. his only real blemish is that first year in miami losing to dallas
foggy lodge
Its so hard that anyone can be over Wolfey
Maybe Marco
But Marco still needs to win worlds atleast one time
rustic mountain
but ppl still hold those other losses against him despite him doing everything he could
dense latch
i hate when ppl use lebron's 4-6 record in the finals as a way to downplay him
hard lantern
it is and it isnt. i think lebrons better but its tough to argue against jordans...
yea he wasnt really his best in miami
rustic mountain
Maybe Marco
nah marcos a top 5 player in the world atm but goat? nah hes got a ways to go
hard lantern
i hate when ppl use lebron's 4-6 record in the finals as a way to downplay him
ikr like getting to the finals is hard
dense latch
2007 was basically impossible to win with the team he carried to the finals
same with 2018
rustic mountain
i hate when ppl use lebron's 4-6 record in the finals as a way to downplay him
it sucks
foggy lodge
nah marcos a top 5 player in the world atm but goat? nah hes got a ways to go
He is the second best player atm
I don't think is impossible he climbs fast to be competing with Wolfey for the title
dense latch
is a 4-0 record really better than 4-6? is carrying a team to the finals not an accomplishment in it of it self?
rustic mountain
yea he wasnt really his best in miami
he was great but he had some mental block that finals and the other year he lost there wade and bosh just really dropped off and the rest of the team was just vet min guys
foggy lodge
But rn the best players is Wolfey EUIC Toronto and the GC all in a row
How can you be so good at the game
dense latch
2011 is fair criticism though
rustic mountain
I don't think is impossible he climbs fast to be competing with Wolfey for the t...
i didnt say impossible but he would need a lot more accomplishments to contend with wolfey for greatest ever
dense latch
2014 maybe too but that spurs team was absurd
dense latch
i didnt say impossible but he would need a lot more accomplishments to contend w...
he needs a worlds and more regional wins i feel like
rustic mountain
2014 maybe too but that spurs team was absurd
that was a perfect storm they had a chance but spurs were on one
hard lantern
yea like lebron played 20 seasons and they said he only played in soft leauges
rustic mountain
one of the best teams ive ever seen play
rustic mountain
he needs a worlds and more regional wins i feel like
yep
hard lantern
spurs, warriors, and the mavs final losses are kinda tough
rustic mountain
2011 mavs loss is the only one thats really an issue for me. 2015 he had kyrie and love go down, 2016 they win a historical one and 2017 and 18 its like wtf was he supposed to do vs durant getting added?
2014 spurs is arguable
2007 spurs he had no chance
hard lantern
yea but 2011 mavs were still good
rustic mountain
nah they shouldve won that
hard lantern
but def bron coulda locked in
rustic mountain
bron disappeared that series
they werent bad they made it to the finals but heat had way more talent
hard lantern
thats true
dense latch
i started watching basketball way too late to see the miami heat big 3, now im stuck watching kyle anderson be our most efficient scorer
hard lantern
lol
rustic mountain
hard lantern
clips fan here crying at last seasons fail
dense latch
not very big where i live so coverage isn't the greatest
dense latch
2022 ecf game 7 got me into the nba
rustic mountain
was that boston vs heat?
dense latch
yea
rustic mountain
yea good series
hard lantern
2022?
dense latch
jimmy missed a three when we were down 2 that was heartbreaking
hard lantern
wait who won that year
rustic mountain
warriors
dense latch
they faced in 2022 and 2023 in ecf
hard lantern
oh yea
dense latch
man that ecf in 2023 was crazy too
rustic mountain
yea
nobody here knows the 09 celts vs bulls series 
point differential was like razor thin almost every game
dense latch
nobody here knows the 09 celts vs bulls series <:KEKWcry:970912123762917426>
crazy unc status
rustic mountain
dense latch
damn this channel hit 2 mil messages a week ago
rustic mountain
wow
i cant even look back on my first messages here cuz the comp helper at the time was an asshole and deleted them 
molten oasis
lol
dense latch
i think i used a different pokemon server the few months i played swsh vgc
rustic mountain
i was the guy coming in trynna make anti meta stuff work but their attitude was really shitty 
i remember exactly what the mon was too
beheeyem or however u spell it
dense latch
i miss the tapus ):
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
dense latch
those are definitely stats
molten oasis
those are some abilities
rustic mountain
i was like oh its sp atk is good it must be solid
it was a regional dex format atm too
dense latch
lol found it
rustic mountain
haha yes
molten oasis
5 years ago wow
rustic mountain
yea im an og
molten oasis
thats hype
dense latch
telepathy syncronize and analytic as an ability trio
rustic mountain
telepathy isnt bad just not good on beeheeyem really
left bobcat
telepathy syncronize and analytic as an ability trio
ITS THE BIG 3
rustic mountain
nobody knows joe johnson here
craggy dagger
is @thorny beacon playing vgc again 😭
left bobcat
nobody knows joe johnson here
thorny beacon
is <@482893290266427422> playing vgc again 😭
NEIN
i am one game off mb rank though but nah i'm gonna move to honky starbucks 
dense latch
nobody knows joe johnson here
joe johnson has saved some of my hoopgrids
craggy dagger
lmao what?
rustic mountain
ur what?
dense latch
what now
rustic mountain
hoopgrid?
dense latch
dense latch
basketball pokedoku
rustic mountain
Eh close enough
u couldnt of been more wrong
rustic mountain
basketball pokedoku
ahh interesting
rustic mountain
seriously tho watch some joe johnson highlights he was cold
left bobcat
seriously tho watch some joe johnson highlights he was cold
Like ice cream cold?
dense latch
joe johnson has saved some of my hoopgrids
helping me today too lol
it's a nice ball knowledge check it helped me learn a lot about who played where considering i've missed 97% of nba history
dense latch
4 time all star i forget abt that
left bobcat
THAT WAS DOPE SCHYEAHHH 🔥🔥
rustic mountain
4 time all star i forget abt that
dude was a beast on the jazz and hawks
dense latch
there was this one season in the mid 2010s where a ton of hawks players made the all star team right?
rustic mountain
different game then tho pfs were more mid range post guys, p much every 4 nowadays can hit 3s
rustic mountain
there was this one season in the mid 2010s where a ton of hawks players made the...
2015 hawks
they were lebron food in the playoffs
dense latch
different game then tho pfs were more mid range post guys, p much every 4 nowada...
the death of the power forward
there's like 10 yt video essays about that lol
rustic mountain
yea its good/bad tbh
left bobcat
2015 hawks
To
rustic mountain
theres positives to the game being more stretched out/open but yea u lose some recipes in the process. lot of power forwards now have like no post game
hard lantern
helping me today too lol
dawg idk any of them
why is all the east
chrome knot
astral kelp
is this a concept lmao
molten oasis
its a concept yea
why fari and not deedee, and like, not rilla
psyspam lunala is good
molten oasis
lefties nala?
astral kelp
really wouldnt it still be good here?
astral kelp
looks fine the, i would have liked to know the sets
havent set any of those up yet
lol idk
not doing this
bold geode
https://tenor.com/view/frieren-fern-beyond-journeys-end-macdonald-burgers-gif-10...
Nom
toxic thunder
Hey, all! I’m making a mono-grass team for fun; planning on running a Sceptile with one of these two moveset/item combos:
Either Unburden + Power Herb + Solar Beam, or Blunder Policy + Focus Blast. I’m not very well-versed in comp, but would either of these moves be better than the other (I know they’re both a bit situational, but just asking in general)?
Thank you for your help!
hard lantern
best trick room pokemon?
astral kelp
best trick room pokemon?
fari or indeedee
molten oasis
whats the team?
astral kelp
roar is based
astral kelp
why sash?
hard lantern
cuz it dies
molten oasis
bro cant take a special attack on its life
hard lantern
prob sweep
molten oasis
yea
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
hard lantern
ive never used hatterene but what about that
molten oasis
ursaluna
astral kelp
ive actually never seen this dude before 20 spd is hilarious
molten oasis
i think a physical attacker is nice here personally but you can do hatt
molten oasis
life orb eforce spammer
tr eforce dazzling gleam and protect or mystic fire
your team is kinda bad into incin which is why i suggested ursa
astral kelp
why tf have i seen so many muk teams
astral kelp
exeggutor is a based w pokemon
hard lantern
Why you got exeggutor and torkoal?
harvest
astral kelp
just pray for no calyrexes lol
hard lantern
i mean ig i dont
and i could put in like a normal photosynth
hard lantern
just pray for no calyrexes lol
which one
hard lantern
i already have stone
molten oasis
Egg’s bad anyway lol
hard lantern
i cant have 2 niche pokemon
molten oasis
I wouldn’t suggest torkoal either
hard lantern
isnt it a trick sweep
molten oasis
Yea but it’s outclassed and kyogre being around kinda sucks for it
Bolt too, and incin
astral kelp
does trocky boy actually do damage?
molten oasis
Why do you need a dragon?
Like you could go bolt here just fine but why do you need a dragon
astral kelp
type triangle is like water fire grass
hard lantern
isnt there like psy dragon smth idk
oh wait whats a counter type for dark
cuz i have luna
rustic mountain
its psychic fighting and dark
rustic mountain
i was saying thats the other type triangle
hard lantern
oh
rustic mountain
theres fwg core and fantasy core (dragon steel and fairy) but they arent super strict things u need to always adhere to in teambuilding
mighty stump
theres fwg core and fantasy core (dragon steel and fairy) but they arent super s...
Just go mono-normal type and have everyone be tera ghost and never worry
rustic mountain
lmao
hard lantern
its seem psy ghost is really weak to ghost and dark
rustic mountain
as a typing? yea its 4x weak to both
mighty stump
Just go mono-normal type and have everyone be tera ghost and never worry
Please do not actually do this
hard lantern
done deal
molten oasis
Lmao what
astral kelp
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2322909782 man this lunala team kinda blows
rustic mountain
hard lantern
as a typing? yea its 4x weak to both
so tera water practically forced?
rustic mountain
theres a few typings u could go w/, water is definitely the most consistent defensive option
molten oasis
tofu's cookin something ig lol
mighty stump
tofu's cookin something ig lol
Trying a new Kyo team
hard lantern
so
https://pokepast.es/a16b1a6aa99dc2f8
suggestions instead of ursa, bolt, and incin
molten oasis
you're not supposed to play av ursa
hard lantern
oh
molten oasis
you play flame orb
rustic mountain
yea guts w/ av is weird, ur basically asking to be burned but then ur opponent will just realize ur not flame orb and win
hard lantern
molten oasis
i mean av incin is fine ig
rustic mountain
av incin is cool but no p shot sometimes feelsbadman
astral kelp
what do you gyys think of random crits in pokemon
rustic mountain
its ok
molten oasis
its rng and it sucks
hard lantern
i have no spec def
molten oasis
incin's bulky regardless
rustic mountain
games would get out of hand w/ certain boosts and what not. crits can be unfortunate but they are a necessarily aspect in a way to deter certain playstyles from dominating
molten oasis
why are you using stone with lunala again?
astral kelp
games would get out of hand w/ certain boosts and what not. crits can be unfortu...
how does it deter any playstyles
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
astral kelp
oh dang thats kind of an insane ability
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
rustic mountain
how does it deter any playstyles
lemme just get +6 sp def or def on this 1 guy and then just outlast everything down to timer. it would just divulge to very basic boring gameplay
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
astral kelp
lol wtf
molten oasis
that move sucks for vgc but who learns it
astral kelp
lemme just get +6 sp def or def on this 1 guy and then just outlast everything d...
there are more waysa to deal with that tho
hard lantern
why are you using stone with lunala again?
wdym againits the same thing
astral kelp
that dont rely o0n pure luck
rustic mountain
crits add a necessary variance to the game that make it so things arent necessarily impossible in certain board states
molten oasis
in my head, that name sounds like something for a darker lore steelt ype
astral kelp
the cute little star guy learning a move called doom desire just doesnt fit
isnt it like a god or something
rustic mountain
there are more waysa to deal with that tho
im familiar w/ haze, still doesnt mean that counterplay to that wouldnt just arise to then lead to the eventual boost race
toxic thunder
Hey, all! I’m making a mono-grass team for fun; planning on running a Sceptile w...
A friend recommended I run Follow Me on a Cornerstone Ogerpon (for the Sturdy combo), as well.
astral kelp
not just haze theres also like
not fucking letting them getting to that point
if they got to that point and you havent been able to stop it they SHOULD win
and not lose to some random ass dumb crit
molten oasis
crits add a necessary variance to the game that make it so things arent necessar...
fair point
molten oasis
and not lose to some random ass dumb crit
its gonna happen though
thats just a part of the game
astral kelp
its just part of the game is not an argument for good game design
molten oasis
okay
molten oasis
if the game has 0 rng it wouldnt be fun to watch
rustic mountain
if they got to that point and you havent been able to stop it they SHOULD win
could use the same logic for crits, giving ur opponent the chance to move before u and get more opportunities to get one
astral kelp
but i just think in a competitive enviroment its kinda sucky
molten oasis
astral kelp
tf2 has a good system where crits are enabled in casual play but disabled in most competitive play
rustic mountain
theres always ways to minimize the bad rng aspect of the game, once u realize that the better u get
astral kelp
theres always ways to minimize the bad rng aspect of the game, once u realize th...
i can get that aspect ig
rustic mountain
doesnt necessarily mean it has to be there
astral kelp
when you make a play you can consider the probability of them critting
rustic mountain
but it is and thats kinda it
molten oasis
i mean that probably is usually very low
astral kelp
yeah
molten oasis
unless ur ogerpon/have high crit moves
astral kelp
i think thats kinda what makes it bearable
rustic mountain
i think theres definitely reasoning why its there but i can understand the disagreement
molten oasis
same
astral kelp
if the chance was high then it would just be rolling dice
rustic mountain
crits a 4% chance iirc, its pretty low tbh
molten oasis
crits are annoying but missing moves genuinely feels so much worse
astral kelp
crits are annoying but missing moves genuinely feels so much worse
thats very true
molten oasis
crits a 4% chance iirc, its pretty low tbh
yea
astral kelp
i think missing moves is valid
molten oasis
like god on mons like kyogre or groudon
astral kelp
because like you put a move into your pokemon because it tends to have higher damage
molten oasis
those moves missing is so ass lol
astral kelp
so youre just choosing extra damage over consistency
which is fair, you should expect it
rustic mountain
unless ur one of the horses
molten oasis
yep
astral kelp
crit is just random as shit
molten oasis
or miraidon/koraidon
astral kelp
unless ur one of the horses
dude what the fuck were they thinking with the calyrexes HAHAH
molten oasis
they weren't
molten oasis
($90 mons better make it worth the price for vgc players)
rustic mountain
or miraidon/koraidon
what spread moves do they have that they use. discharge is all mons so doesnt really count and d gleam is kinda a psuedo one thats way less strong and needs tera
astral kelp
no yea i get you
miraidon and koraidon are definitevly like 10x more fair than tjhe calyrexes
rustic mountain
i thought we we're jsut naming mons that are consistent my b
oh i just figured we were talking about inconsistent powerful spread moves on restricteds
molten oasis
mirai would also be very out of control without the calys
calys are a necesarry evil
astral kelp
actually caly ice is kinda fair since its slow and trick room hasw a lot of counterplay
rustic mountain
calys are a necesarry evil
eh idk bout that haha but they are fine
astral kelp
calys are a necesarry evil
i always disagree with the necesarry evil argument
solid frigate
mirai would also be very out of control without the calys
Miraidon is basically Gen 9 Zacian or Xerneas
So calyrex being here is valid
molten oasis
man lemme hate the calys in peace
rustic mountain
actually caly ice is kinda fair since its slow and trick room hasw a lot of coun...
w/o tera they are both super fair. tera just makes the approach to them in an already volatile single restricted meta tougher to account for
molten oasis
tera makes them so much better
solid frigate
cuz the two things Miraidon hate besides rilla is the calys and argubly Bolt
molten oasis
their typings suck so much defensively
astral kelp
w/o tera they are both super fair. tera just makes the approach to them in an al...
Yea rhwy have shit typing
But so does lunala so
rustic mountain
i wouldnt say shit but they arent amazing
molten oasis
psychic ghost isnt like, terrible
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
molten oasis
yea they are 4x but its their only weaknesses
molten oasis
you also dont have many resistances
rustic mountain
yea they are 4x but its their only weaknesses
defensively its still not great tho
astral kelp
Or ghost move
rustic mountain
but its not like an outright bad typing imo
molten oasis
yea, no real notable resistances is kinda bad
astral kelp
But 150 fucking speed
molten oasis
ig fighting is the only one
rustic mountain
but regardless the typing is only 1 aspect of a mon
molten oasis
CIR on the other hand
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
astral kelp
Cir has shit ass typing
molten oasis
that typing fucking suck lmao
astral kelp
Well yeah we know we're just talking about typing
astral kelp
that was the trade off
And slow
astral kelp
Like literally just the fact that it's slow gives it counterplay
Csr the only counterplay is like
rustic mountain
that was the trade off
for both in a way, u make those guys have awesome types on top of everything theyd just be on like every team
astral kelp
Fuck idk none really
spark steeple
Does anyone know which urshifu form is the best ? New to comp
astral kelp
Rapid
astral kelp
Not even close you only use dark if youre using like sun
astral kelp
so jus infinitely better flutter
LOL true
molten oasis
yea it be so broken lmao
astral kelp
Flutter still out speeds tho so there's that
rustic mountain
Does anyone know which urshifu form is the best ? New to comp
rapid has been consistently the better performing urshifu, but both are strong
molten oasis
i think that CIR would be a kinda bad typing no matter what cuz ice is just, not a good typing
defensively
and CIR is a bulky ice type
spark steeple
THANKS for the help 👏🏽
astral kelp
Why are they just obsessed with making ice types "bulky"
molten oasis
idk
rustic mountain
to offset how bad the type is otherwise defensively
astral kelp
There's a Reason chien pao is the only good ice type
molten oasis
which hardly works
rustic mountain
ice should resist water imo, idk if it even resists itself
molten oasis
hey a9 is doing its best
astral kelp
And bundle ig
rustic mountain
i forget
molten oasis
ice resists ice
astral kelp
hey a9 is doing its best
I love a9
rustic mountain
ice resists ice
thats it tho right
molten oasis
yep
astral kelp
But I'm sorry it's the worst part of kyurem white teams lmao
rustic mountain
it has like no immunities and 1 resistance
molten oasis
its so bad defensively
astral kelp
Bad offensive good offensive
rustic mountain
one of the best offensive types tho so really ig the trade off yea
molten oasis
yea
astral kelp
Then they make it bulky pokemons that are good defensively and bad offensivrly LOL
molten oasis
ice is a fairly balanced type, they just dont make good ice types
rustic mountain
But I'm sorry it's the worst part of kyurem white teams lmao
u literally need it for kyruem to even be somewhat useable
molten oasis
yep
astral kelp
u literally need it for kyruem to even be somewhat useable
Yea and that's why it's the worst part of kyurem white
You're forced to use it
molten oasis
poor kyurem
rustic mountain
kyruem white is the worst part of kyruem white
molten oasis
its so cool but it needs way too much to work
astral kelp
do NOT sleep on kyurem he fucking HUIRTS
molten oasis
a9 isnt even that bad but its best abuser has literally been itself or cuno
molten oasis
so does CSR
astral kelp
kyruem sucks man im sorry
let a man dream
astral kelp
man i wouldnt even mind if it was slow but it also kinda bad in trick orom
rustic mountain
to me its like, why would i ever pick kyruem over like any of the other better restricteds
molten oasis
zama, zac, calys existing just, sucks for it
astral kelp
BECAUSE HE LOOKS COOL
rustic mountain
im not a big kyruem fan
molten oasis
zama is just awful for it cuz wide guard
rustic mountain
gen 5 dragons kinda mid design wise to me
rustic mountain
they really stepped up after gen 5
gen 3 been goated tho
astral kelp
you got kyurem reshiram and zekram
molten oasis
true
rustic mountain
kyogre carrying the mantle on its back this gen
molten oasis
kyogre still strong to this day
astral kelp
zekram and reshiram are like lowkey useleess
molten oasis
yep
rustic mountain
kyogre still strong to this day
groudons been really good too tbf up until this gen
itll be back
astral kelp
if only they had a good movepoolk
molten oasis
we got 2 significantly better electric dragon types
astral kelp
gen 5 was my favorite gen was it came out
molten oasis
itll be back
yea, i think if pblades and opulse get buffed it would help
astral kelp
its still my favorite gen by far
molten oasis
mostly pbaldes cuz spout is at this point kyogre's signature move
rustic mountain
we got 2 significantly better electric dragon types
the fact raging bolt is just a better zekrom to slot in is crazy
molten oasis
yep
rustic mountain
dont even need a restricted for that
molten oasis
bolt is a restricted in disguise
rustic mountain
i wouldnt say that but its better then zekrom
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
astral kelp
bolt feels kinda more supportive
rustic mountain
nah bolt hits like a truck
molten oasis
i wouldnt say that but its better then zekrom
im mostly joking but it has restricted levels of bulk
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
rustic mountain
u could be more supportive ig but its strong
molten oasis
bolt hits so hard even on av sets
astral kelp
bolt is usually more supportive
molten oasis
life orb sets are hilarious
molten oasis
i thought bolt was gonna have like, 115 special attack
solid frigate
life orb sets are hilarious
Choice Specs Zekrom 
astral kelp
i hate how urshifu rs is just better palafin
rustic mountain
bolt is usually more supportive
its objectively done better as an offensive threat but yea some av sets have done well
astral kelp
what set do you go offensively?
molten oasis
booster
molten oasis
is the normal thing, max max life orb picked up for a bit
astral kelp
i usually see myself going like electro web and shit
solid frigate
Magnet,Booster.Lorb
i seen some alternatives
molten oasis
av sets still run modest and a decent amount of investment
rustic mountain
i usually see myself going like electro web and shit
its team dependent really
molten oasis
snarl and eweb are both good but yea it depends on what your team is struggling with
rustic mountain
lot of bolt teams have flutter so e webs is usually overkill
astral kelp
jesus christ what is happening on my work computer's teams
molten oasis
not the alolan golem
astral kelp
snarl is manual spa intimidate its so fucking good
molten oasis
when do we get petrify
astral kelp
LOL
molten oasis
the spA variatn of intimdate (dont do this plz)
solid frigate
my builder is a mess rn cuz it has Reg I stuff
rustic mountain
when do we get petrify
is that ur hypothetical name for special intimidate?
astral kelp
bro why does physcal attack get shittier moves and have to deal with intimidate
molten oasis
idk what else to call it
astral kelp
spa is literally just better
molten oasis
but dont make that an ability i dont need incin AND that mon cycling my teams offenses to death
molten oasis
bruh
rustic mountain
solid frigate
but dont make that an ability i dont need incin AND that mon cycling my teams of...
at this point that kills the VGC pacing and its just singles lmao
molten oasis
rustic mountain
im kidding man
molten oasis
ik
astral kelp
when i started playing i never really god what made incin so good
solid frigate
i think TPCi knows that would kill the VGC popularity if they do that
molten oasis
at this point that kills the VGC pacing and its just singles lmao
well no i feel like defiant would be really common
astral kelp
but god intimidate + parting shot is so fucking disgusting
molten oasis
defiant and like, clam
rustic mountain
idk if they ever give us special intimidate
astral kelp
well no i feel like defiant would be really common
serperior return :D
molten oasis
i hope not
solid frigate
when i started playing i never really god what made incin so good
Intim,Batman Utility Belt of Moves
Strong defensive typing
molten oasis
it be cool but like, nah
astral kelp
idk if they ever give us special intimidate
give it to a shit ass pokemon like minum
rustic mountain
itd b weird cuz if u give it to a bad mon nobody cares and if its good everyone will use it
astral kelp
Intim,Batman Utility Belt of Moves
Strong defensive typing
ofc i do now its so disgusting
rustic mountain
nd new abilities distribution is usually just for that one mon
astral kelp
fake out is probably the best move in the game after like protect
rustic mountain
so wed have to wait for a new set of mons to see if any1 else gets it
molten oasis
the unique guys get cool new abilities tho
solid frigate
ofc i do now its so disgusting
Urshifu is kinda a Necessary Evil against Incin
if Incin did not Tera that is-
molten oasis
like i doubt protosyntesis or quark drive show up anywhere else
rustic mountain
is necessary evil the buzzword here tn?
astral kelp
Urshifu is kinda a Necessary Evil against Incin
if Incin did not Tera that is-
as much as i hate the necessary evil argument
youre so right here
molten oasis
terrain made sense cuz terrain is a mechanic
i like shifu
and theres more than ONE way to handle incin
astral kelp
iron hands
solid frigate
like i doubt protosyntesis or quark drive show up anywhere else
unless they add new paradox mons
Which i doubt they would but yeah Paradox mons might be like Ultra Beasts
molten oasis
special attackers, lando, rain teams, good positioning
astral kelp
yeas i feel like i cant play torn without it
solid frigate
non prankster taunt
astral kelp
non prankster taunt
ehhh
solid frigate
ahem Roaring moon
molten oasis
eh
astral kelp
ive seen av incin
molten oasis
like yea, you shut off parting shot but incin still can rotate in and out
solid frigate
its OTS
molten oasis
hard switching and all
solid frigate
like yea, you shut off parting shot but incin still can rotate in and out
wisp
molten oasis
fair
solid frigate
another reason why my CIR team has Supporting Moon
astral kelp
i dont see wisp that much tbh
molten oasis
wisp tends to be on teams with peli or kyogre
astral kelp
for damage bolt what should i run here?
molten oasis
dude dont run that mon
solid frigate
-
low ladder on your POV
-
god no i seen more Wisps than usual when Hands is on my team
molten oasis
scovillain sucks
astral kelp
1. low ladder on your POV
2. god no i seen more Wisps than usual when Hands is ...
good point
astral kelp
scovillain sucks
dude lowkey i think scovillain might be underrated
ive actually been having a lot of success with him
astral kelp
insane typing
130pp fire and grass moves
and its so fast
well yeah i know its not good
over relience on sun, squishy etc
but i dont think its as bad as poeple say
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
astral kelp
clear amulet works with it
thing is koraidon kinda one shots everything anyways
maybe ill try groudon
molten oasis
if it works it works ig
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
astral kelp
yeah but decorate is slow as fuck
azure ether
that's just shittier Decorate with extra steps
astral kelp
the advantage with spice is that scovillain has chlorofill
lol this team is so dumb
azure ether
I'm not sure if you got value out of your combo there
astral kelp
apparantly groudon gets exploded by csr idk
lest try this ev spread HAHAH
i kep wining games with just raging bolt alone
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
astral kelp
this dude dodged rock slide 3 times wtf
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
spark steeple
Can I use POGO in comp? Im new so probably a dumb question
hard lantern
https://pokepast.es/29c40f1c3f833fef
i kinda dislike incin and ursa
what else would be a good fit
maybe idk how to use them
charred saddle
Can I use POGO in comp? Im new so probably a dumb question
yes you can
you would still need to transfer the POGO mons to home first
then to maingame first tho
astral kelp
wtf
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
astral kelp
wth why does no one use this this seems insane
solid frigate
wth why does no one use this this seems insane
cuz it also hits your allies
astral kelp
@real prairie https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2323011810-6cqwo6pyhxhgtbs2bnmbl5soltoek4jpw
the problem with scarf/specs ogre lol
real prairie
<@330362488447041537> https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2323011...
you cant be running choice items and not know your speed tiers
lol
astral kelp
you cant be running choice items and not know your speed tiers
Lol ikr
9 HP ogre stuck in water spout is like a lil wet blanket
real prairie
astral kelp
https://tenor.com/view/teletubbies-po-flowers-watering-plants-watering-can-gif-2...
LOL
LOL
lmfao i think i finally found a way to make kyurem black usable
and its by copy and pasting my kyurem white team
real prairie
lol
ggs
@astral kelp can i set you a challenge? I like how creative you are with your team building but you seem to get lost in it, so want to try and direct your creativity to success.
astral kelp
lol wdym?
real prairie
Think you could build a creative team that can still succeed, aiming to hit say 1400 in BO1
real prairie
nope, you have complete creative freedom. just wanna see if your piloting and creativity can hit 1400
astral kelp
hahah sounds fun
i could prolly get there with my kyruem-w team
but i feel like for the spirit of the challenge i should use a new team
maybe i should try get there with scovillain i really think he has potential
real prairie
Give it a shot, I'm excited to see what you can cook but also balance out to win more consistently
real prairie
my luck is not with it today.... https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2323051664-29y3uoqb6bi58i338fj5k8ycrr2q9vcpw
astral kelp
neither man
real prairie
i was so tempted to go triple axel as i had a feeling id miss
astral kelp
i missed 3 rock slides in a roll another game
we multitasking
i need to find inspiration first
astral kelp
sorry ludi im destroying your boy with weakness policy lmao
real prairie
i dont think thatll work, oranguru is too slow
if you are gonna do that, there are better options
better option:
Magmar @ Eviolite
Ability: Vital Spirit
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 140 HP / 252 Def / 116 SpD
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Follow Me
- Helping Hand
- Mach Punch
- Burning Jealousy
non stab, low Atk mach punch into tera steel Kyogre
astral kelp
that does sound a lot better
ill try both!@
whats your ludicolo set
i must honor my mentor
i didnt realize his stats were so bad im ngl LMAO
real prairie
this is my current set:
Pina (Ludicolo) (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 228 Def / 52 SpA / 228 Spe
Timid Nature
- Fake Out
- Encore
- Grass Knot
- Weather Ball
astral kelp
holy shit
hm idk tbh ive made like 5 different teams today and somehow the fucking lugia simple stockpile team is the best one
i visibly laughed
woven pelican
real prairie
even 1700 players don't expect the Tsar @chrome knot LOL
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2323082606-snn004mupig36b6js4dvdxisby0voudpw
left bobcat
I just win again and win again
astral kelp
result of porygon z in pikalyrics lmfaio
we going WAY out ther
LOOOOL
after you liligant plus torkoal is kind of a crazy cvombo
real prairie
was immense before the silly speed tiers kicked in
chrome knot
even 1700 players don't expect the Tsar <@224303371564220418> LOL
https://repl...
1700player
look inside
csr ho and they didnt go right to torn t2 to tw barrage for game
real prairie
they didn't bring torn lol
astral kelp
was immense before the silly speed tiers kicked in
lol wdym
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2323107543-uqj7xmrhb2ps8l1tig7kb13ypmridx4pw
nah this is like the dumbest team ever idk how op misplayed so bad i won
chrome knot
they didn't bring torn lol
selling for fun
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
astral kelp
like every turn was a misplay
astral kelp
oh yeah its so overkill lmao
chrome knot
you cast a magic spell on ur opps to run outdated spreads and to never bring the right 4 its diabolical
astral kelp
ikr hahah
chrome knot
not u xd
astral kelp
dude liligant hisui after you chlorofill is kinda crazy lowkey
real prairie
you cast a magic spell on ur opps to run outdated spreads and to never bring the...
id like to think ive got to nearly 1700 with more than luck though 😅
chrome knot
probably but the replays u send dont rly help ur case when he had game in hand and didnt bring the wincon
real prairie
tbf id protect and switch to incin to get CSR red carded and give me a chance to switch in Torn myself
chrome knot
if they weren’t ass, red cards into ursh, since that should be the last mon, torn still on board click taunt into ur torn whenever it makes its reappearance idk they just sucked lmao
real prairie
haha fair enough
ive not actually been red carded, is it random or do they pick? it happens quickly so feel its random
chrome knot
astral kelp
@real prairie
real prairie
Ooo who is this
astral kelp
tbf id protect and switch to incin to get CSR red carded and give me a chance to...
Wait who do you run red card on that's so based
real prairie
link plz
astral kelp
Ooo who is this
Sorry for my wack dark Mode lol