or should i go for eject button
#competitive_discussion
astral kelp
shadow wind
Should go Rocky helmet
astral kelp
really?
ig its good anti urshifu
i like using helmet on someone that can be fake out
oh wait yea rage powder
cyan smelt
Should I build a sun team with scovillain
astral kelp
Should I build a sun team with scovillain
yes it would be really funny
lets see if this works lol
cyan smelt
Idk what moves I'd even run on the guy
astral kelp
we hope for no dark types
astral kelp
Idk what moves I'd even run on the guy
doesnt he have a signature
cyan smelt
Spicy extract
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
astral kelp
oh man thats shit HAHA
cyan smelt
With clear amulet it's kinda funny, free swords dance
astral kelp
free?
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
astral kelp
its just worse swords dance
cyan smelt
Yeah as in Groudon doesn't have to use swords dance
cyan smelt
If Groudon has clear amulet then it doesn't lower defense
astral kelp
yea i l ike it i like it
cyan smelt
Idk scovillain is pretty trash
astral kelp
you can turn 1 x2 miss blades
i was NOT paying attention that game
lunala seems really good into csr
im sorry im using koraidon instead of groudon
this sounds kinda fun
honestly i dont need scarf
lol lets try this
lets try some among us gaming
i just got fake outed like 4 times in 3 turns holy fuck
scovillain just one shot zamazenta LOL
nah scovillain actually the goat
AHAHAHAH
astral kelp
Fascinating right lmao
astral kelp
I could see that
Im liking it actually
Inn all the games I've played brute bonnet has just insta died
cyan smelt
Idk it doesn't get great coverage
astral kelp
And done nothing
So I'll just use sunny day torn
astral kelp
I legit feel scovillain might be underratet
Fast as fuck learns 2 130bp stab moves
Great signature
cyan smelt
Needs sun though
astral kelp
Ooh it gets super fang and endeavour for bulky Pokemon
Exactly good sash user
astral kelp
Needs sun though
Yeahhh but with koraidon and sunny day torn it shouldn't be too big an issue
You can also use spicy extract on an opponent and it acts like a helping hand
If koraidon died that is
cyan smelt
Spicy extract + brute bonnet sucker punch
astral kelp
Spicy extract + brute bonnet sucker punch
Brute bonnet sucker punch outspeeds extract
cyan smelt
Oops I forgot
astral kelp
That was the idea cuz I though bonnet could live like 1 attack but it's typing and bulk are so shit lol
Stab lorb max atk seed bomb did way less than expected on iron hands too
A different game
cyan smelt
You shouldn't run two grass types
You could run roaring moon as well for tailwind support
cyan smelt
Or whimsicott with sunny day
astral kelp
But if I run moon I have 3 dragons actually
And I want a physical attacker so maybe urshifu dark?
wait definitvly not wtf
so weak to fairies
astral kelp
Or whimsicott with sunny day
btw whats the advantages of whimsy over tornados?
encore moonblast vs taunt bleakwind storm
real prairie
faster
astral kelp
so it cant be taunted by torn
real prairie
can get TW off before being taunted
cyan smelt
Whimsicott also has sunny day to ensure sun
real prairie
Whimsicott also has sunny day to ensure sun
thats not a differentiator though, both get sunny day
cyan smelt
Light screen then
real prairie
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
astral kelp
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2317783608/
i played terribly but jesus christ scovillain fucks so hard
astral kelp
Didn't I literally sunny day that game?
cyan smelt
Nope?
astral kelp
Huh
cyan smelt
You switched in koraidon, you probably could have kept torn in and just used sunny day
astral kelp
You switched in koraidon, you probably could have kept torn in and just used sun...
That's true I had covert cloak too so I didn't need to worry about fake out
Also I just hád a thought
Entei would be CRAZY here
Free swords dance
cyan smelt
But def drop
real prairie
just rewatching Wolfe breakdown of Champions, Id say we have 2 years before Internationals and maybe regionals have to be qualified for
astral kelp
just rewatching Wolfe breakdown of Champions, Id say we have 2 years before Inte...
Oh yeah hype I should watch that
cyan smelt
Extreme speed goes before spicy extract
astral kelp
Ye ik so one turn you go sun boosted glare blitz or something then next turn you go extreme speed
Idk tho lol but it's an idea
Entei is also kinda underrated lowkey
I just lightly hit a pole with my car as soon as I got home fuck. Lmao
Like in my garage
solid frigate
Entei was not underrated?
left bobcat
Morning chat
left bobcat
Entei is also kinda underrated lowkey
Hell nah
lost sun
what can I put on kyogre instead of origin pulse for doubles cus it's just missed 3 times in a battle
charred saddle
what can I put on kyogre instead of origin pulse for doubles cus it's just misse...
nothing works similarly to that
nothing comes close to the BP power
spout has the problem of HP base, but ye, either spout or origin
ive been seeing a calm mind balance kyogre + spout icebeam protect
so if you missed one its not really a problem since ur really bulky
lost sun
I use spout icebeam thunder and origin
origins only there if ik my kyogres gonna get outsped and hit hard enough to make it do less damage than smth like surf
charred saddle
oh its scarfed/specs?
left bobcat
Scarf
charred saddle
i wont like recommend specs/scarf since FO and prio/TW is like a problem unless u have something to play around it like tsareena/fari or indeedee
left bobcat
If you run specs you might as well run the left overs/mystic water calm mind option
charred saddle
but yeah, nothing can replace origin pulse except spout, and even then usually u would still bring origin for the dmg
left bobcat
charred saddle
why whim over torn
torn still has a very good pairing with kyogre
bleakwind 100% acc even if its minimize/evasion +
covers grass
usually a HO kyogre would have torn + tsareena for prio spam stuff
thorny beacon
usually a HO kyogre would have torn + tsareena for prio spam stuff
galarian articuno too
charred saddle
galarian articuno too
thorny beacon
<:KekHands:1251294686468112434>
next stump
what’s up people
mint void
@real prairie Ludicolo is trolling me
Bro is missing a muddy water every time I use it
He hasnt hit both opponents yet
real prairie
Yeah I swapped to weather ball for that reason 😅
real prairie
what’s up people
Yo man
Been working way too much the last 3 days, excited to get these bids out and do no work for a week
lost sun
guys my opponent made a new meta
terra fire ogerpon against a kyogre 👍
chrome knot
its better than you think
real prairie
For when you double into it with ice beam and thunder incase of tera grass and it is safe from both
lost sun
why's everyone using fire mask ogerpon all of a sudden
real prairie
why's everyone using fire mask ogerpon all of a sudden
Hits hard
lost sun
I got to rank 10 and all my battles so far have been against it
chrome knot
ur gonna enjoy immediate death or a 50% swing in rain with fire move
real prairie
<@330362488447041537> Ludicolo is trolling me
astral kelp
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2317883746
random a sea of fire team wtf haqhaha
real prairie
my guy is trying to use pledge strats and is getting pissy at a Koraidon gimmick? LOL
mint void
Du fotze=U cunt
real prairie
good to know
dense latch
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2317883746
random a sea of fi...
imagine parting shotting a clear amulet mon then insulting your opponent as if they were at fault for your gameplay lol
ladder has some unique people to say the least
real prairie
thought that was clever from you tbf
dense latch
getting insulted by your opponent in a language foreign to yours is a showdown rite of passage
real prairie
just faced a scarf latios + cloak CIR team...
marsh hemlock
Someone wanna 2v2?
echo canyon
Hey I could use some advice for my Doubles batttle team. I haven't really done it before, but the team has been working fairly well in doubles ubers and I wanted to see if I could improve it anywhere. https://pokepast.es/5fbc217816d0088a
bold geode
ur gonna enjoy immediate death or a 50% swing in rain with fire move
Stinky
chrome knot
ohhhh
bold geode
Yeah
Helloing
chrome knot
goodbyeing im goin to work
mint void
Hey I could use some advice for my Doubles batttle team. I haven't really done i...
Hey we mostly play VGC
this also looks liek a VGC team
idk why u arent playing the VGC format
it seems like a solid team...nothing super amazing but has neat niches
maybe swap lilligant for the hisuian version.
real prairie
im clearly out of practice, fallen from 1600 to 1290 today
dense latch
💔
real prairie
💔
Pretty shit bombshell to end on considering Pokémon presents big talk on LATAM inclusion
mighty stump
ive been seeing a calm mind balance kyogre + spout icebeam protect
You canty run Spout as your solo STAB
mint void
https://x.com/playpokemon/status/1899838874588701171?t=zSnhz0oWac3piKMh5O0xQg&s=...
can u tldr me
Im playing ranked OW rn
real prairie
You canty run Spout as your solo STAB
theres nothing that can keep kyogre healthy enough to make that viable lol
real prairie
can u tldr me
Trainers with over 200cp get goodies, unless you are LATAM then FU
mint void
Trainers with over 200cp get goodies, unless you are LATAM then FU
makes very little sense to me ngl
how can logistics be that big of an issue
its not like u are shipping a car
dense latch
feel like tpci just hates us
real prairie
right, back up to 1400
i do love playing fake wolfe's https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2318031265
craggy dagger
ooo
what for?
next stump
https://x.com/playpokemon/status/1899838874588701171?t=zSnhz0oWac3piKMh5O0xQg&s=...
cool program 🙂
i wish there was something in game for SV
cause they’re getting TCG live stuff
real prairie
yeah, all the rewards feel very TCG
ngl the play mats are cool but i idgaf about the cards outside of saving them incase they get expensive
dense latch
i think this is enough showdown for a day
left bobcat
i think this is enough showdown for a day
Damn
And I thought missing both targets with origin pulse twice was bad
potent coyote
is there a vod of fortaleza regional anywhere?
fathom geyser
https://pokepast.es/895d0a9b742c842e
I'll leave the viability of this team an open question but should I just replace Lunala with terapagos?
left bobcat
https://pokepast.es/895d0a9b742c842e
I'll leave the viability of this team an o...
Hmmmm there’s a few things I wanna say but I can’t put the words together
But where’s the speed control
fathom geyser
I don't have a good way to take advantage of speed control here lmao
So I just ignored it, the usual game length with this team is 10+ turns.
The usual game plan is to use toxic and stall or to play defend the queen.
left bobcat
Hmmm interesting
dense latch
https://pokepast.es/895d0a9b742c842e
I'll leave the viability of this team an o...
terapagos is probably better here yea
looks pretty similar to that pagos heatran team going around
solid frigate
if you wanna play defend the king
Just play CM Pagos
dense latch
plain drum
craggy dagger
look at new silly mouse i bought ^-^
oo
plain drum
Very cool
chrome knot
keyboard for comparison😭
mint void
normal mouse size
polar canyon
And I thought missing both targets with origin pulse twice was bad
Remembering the time I was in a position I would only lose if I double missed icy wind
And as I made the play I knew that was the only way I lost
And thought like "man can you imagine"
And guess what happens next
I'm living in the 0.25% chance outcome reality ever since
solid frigate
keyboard for comparison😭
yooooo RGB Keyboard gang
chrome knot
my cute yukiaim keyboard :3
solid frigate
my cute yukiaim keyboard :3
i just only get like a Blue mechanical Keyboard but i don't have a desktop PC yet so i just use it on my laptop
lost skiff
Is conkeldurr any good pvp wise?
next stump
Is conkeldurr any good pvp wise?
used to be but not anymore
solid frigate
Is conkeldurr any good pvp wise?
ehhhh used to be good but not too much
Powercreep gottem
lost skiff
What happened to my GOAT😭💔🤧✌️
grizzled island
Is dark type kubfu a sp.atk or physical attacker?
Ik it's not kubfu but I can't spell it's other name
atomic mural
both urshifu are physical
grizzled island
Tyyy
lost skiff
Is gogoat any good pvp vise though?
grizzled island
I'm not sure I've never seen it used but it's definitely a cool pokémon
Don't take my work tho I'm new to competitive
lost skiff
BOTH MY GOATS ARE AHH😭🤧✌️💔
next stump
gogoat is cheeks
solid frigate
Is gogoat any good pvp vise though?
well Singles yes
Doubles its a dead slot
if you want to run a Physical Grass Attacker
just run Ogerpon or RIlla
lost skiff
I could clear any doubles 2v2 with gogoat and conkeldurr imma be so real
lost skiff
https://tenor.com/view/doubt-press-x-la-noire-meme-x-button-gif-19259237
Im being fr
solid frigate
tornadus:
lost skiff
Tornadus is like a seed to gogoat and conkeldurr
solid frigate
4+ SpA Tornadus Bleakwind Storm vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Conkeldurr: 156-186 (73.5 - 87.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
4+ SpA Tornadus Bleakwind Storm vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Gogoat: 134-158 (58.2 - 68.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
kek
chrome knot
bold geode
Helloing again
real prairie
I was running a team like this a few days ago 😭🤣
chrome knot
(its ass)
solid frigate
Correct, I was using it as a joke team for a laugh
mint void
Wtf is the Instagram algorithm?
real prairie
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2318311906
This is funni
Miraidon did not want to be frozen lol
real prairie
Wtf is the Instagram algorithm?
Boobies and repeated content
pallid hare
Wtf is the Instagram algorithm?
Infinite Trash
mint void
For me its just car crashes. Shit where the person for sure died, like plane crash and shit or fucking people shooting others rn....
Like...the minor shit is funny but like stop with the "these guys are for sure dead" type videos
bold geode
Boobies and repeated content
Can I choose between the two?
Thank you, door number one plz
bold geode
So boobies AND boobies? We eating good tonight 
pallid hare
So boobies AND boobies? We eating good tonight <:KekCry:1251294703102464020>
These boobys, right?
solid frigate
Miraidon did not want to be frozen lol
he understands that i have suffered before
solid frigate
Boobies and repeated content
and Scams
bold geode
These boobys, right?
I have been finessed and most importantly
Bamboozled
real prairie
These boobys, right?
I wouldn't be mad
real prairie
I have been finessed and most importantly
Bamboozled
Bamboobled
solid frigate
Most Instagram boobies are scams
The only thing that i try to throw to cover those scam up is Honkai Star Rail content
And it did help a bit
bold geode
Booba tea
real prairie
The only thing that i try to throw to cover those scam up is Honkai Star Rail co...
Gambling content is one of the worst, you watch one guy win at plinko and every video is gambling shit
astral kelp
dude whatr
polar canyon
dude whatr
Bro forgot
chrome knot
solid frigate
Gambling content is one of the worst, you watch one guy win at plinko and every ...
its just fanart
no actual gambling
atomic mural
dude whatr
tell them its not like coaching
real prairie
its just fanart
no actual gambling
No I meant in general
solid frigate
No I meant in general
yeah fair
forest arrow
astral kelp
💀
solid frigate
lmao
solid frigate
man this was close
my flutter can survive a Tera Flying Acrobatics from Moon and Uturn from Rilla Double Up
Flutter Mane @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 156 HP / 124 Def / 100 SpA / 4 SpD / 124 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Moonblast
- Icy Wind
- Shadow Ball
- Protect
somber adder
Is the only way to get calyrex via pokemon sword/shield dlc?
I want to use it for a team, but i dont want to spend all that money just for one pokemon..
bold geode
Is the only way to get calyrex via pokemon sword/shield dlc?
Yes sadly
atomic mural
i love when i have to spend 6 hours playing the story to just have to soft reset for multiple hours just to get the optimal calyrex
mint void
@somber adder try in trading chats
Its only really popular with Comp players. There is a lot of collectors in there
solid frigate
somber adder
Ok ty:)
atomic mural
in double restricted what would terapagos even pair good with
split cairn
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2318355608
finally winning matches against CSR and RSS-Urushifu teams 
I know it’s not very difficult for some but for someone who just have access to non-dlc SV, i was struggling a lot against these teams
astral kelp
im mad
i still win but im MAD
i shouldve terad koraidon
he thought i was mad about the protect surging strikes while i was still mad at the missing overheat LMALO
mint void
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2318355608
finally winning m...
Pogo can help you get some mons
split cairn
Pogo can help you get some mons
It’s too much grinding to get the pokémon from POGO since i stopped playing it years ago.
Only restricted pokémons i have in pogo is rayquaza, zekrom, reshiram and Mewtwo which i believe are not really strong in current meta
solid frigate
in double restricted what would terapagos even pair good with
Zacian
Lunala
CSR
Someone even try to run CIR Pagos
and no its not me
astral kelp
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2318355608
finally winning m...
pr just trade
you can do some shiny hunting and trade that way
takes longer ofc but yk sacrifice
craggy dagger
bwop-
How's comp chat doin this very fine evening timezone?
mighty stump
Sucky
chrome knot
bwop-
How's comp chat doin this very fine ~~evening~~ timezone?
sleepy
azure ether
All that practice for Nationals down the drain
chrome knot
?
azure ether
Philippines Master Ball League is our Nationals for Worlds
I was practicing for Reg G, until the registration opened today and we see that we'll be playing Reg H
left bobcat
Oof
bold geode
Tf?
mighty stump
Hello Tofu
How's it goin
Working on new team
noble hatch
why would you guys say that snow teams never really took off compared to sun and rain teams exceot for that period a while back with the aticuno team?
cyan smelt
- kyurem white has a mid speed tier
shadow wind
So real
Showdown couldn't have blessed me with even one more elo
Could've claimed a T100 spot 😔
cyan smelt
damn those are some high gxes
charred saddle
why would you guys say that snow teams never really took off compared to sun and...
snow doesnt provide extra damage like sun and rain does
and as conner said, no restricted that are able to set it and play around it well
taking into account like koraidon kyogre, flare blitz 120 BP single or like water spout or origin pulse
the highest or like i should say strongest ice move is blizzard, 110 BP and its not boosted by weather. and only the acc
and once u lose the weather, blizzard is just worse origin pulse in everyway
and i think the reason on why articuno works in reg F and not now
is just simple
the damage output is too low compared to the current meta
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
charred saddle
95 spA is crappy
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
charred saddle
150 spA
- dmg boosted by rain
- 150 BP if full health
so 
its not that its inherently bad, its just the power ceiling ig (idk if its the right term)
noble hatch
thats fair, thx
mighty stump
so <:Shrug:1254246584036888628>
its not that its inherently bad, its just the ...
Shits too op to deal w
mighty stump
What the shit
mighty stump
<:KekCry:1251294703102464020>
btw life of a doctor i literally just left work after 2 surgeries and reached home, hit the bed, got texted another emergency surgery entered the chat
now I’m on the way back
charred saddle
gw kalo bakal ambil spesialis ya, gbakal gw nyentuh spesialis yg kerjaanny OP
paling yg di lab ato radiologi WKAWKAWK
i cba getting calls 3 am in the fucking morning "emergency!"
torn parrot
That episode was insane
torn parrot
btw life of a doctor i literally just left work after 2 surgeries and reached ho...
You gotta be proud of it tho
Insane work
🤝
real prairie
I was practicing for Reg G, until the registration opened today and we see that ...
WTAF?!
astral kelp
Reddit is crazy
foggy lodge
mighty stump
You gotta be proud of it tho
im tIRED
cyan smelt
i'm getting my ass handed to me on bo3 ladder
cyan smelt
bo3 is hard
solid frigate
it’s a lot more competitive
agreed
also like reg G is pain but its my best Reg since its just
Build the team around that restricted
cyan smelt
my team is ass for bo3
solid frigate
my team is ass for bo3
then make it more balanced to Bo3
cyan smelt
i'm not good at teambuilding
solid frigate
then just try other teams that are good and get inspiration
lost sun
what EVs does incineroar use
real prairie
what EVs does incineroar use
it varies, what build are you going with?
lost sun
fblitz knock off parting shot fake out
cyan smelt
idk i feel like giving up, i'll never be good
solid frigate
fblitz knock off parting shot fake out
usually what i would run is 236/12/52/156/52
But it all comes down to do you want more special Bulk and more on relying Intimdate or you want to bulk to be evenly spread out
so Incin Spread is rather flexible to customise on
lost sun
thx
cyan smelt
Just like I thought, miraidon teams are running volcarona to check rilla
solid frigate
Just like I thought, miraidon teams are running volcarona to check rilla
I don’t think thats necessary?
Hearthflame eixsts
cyan smelt
Well I lost to a miraidon team with volcarona and urshifu rapid
foggy lodge
Joey's team from EUIC
Its a very cool team I love it
If I ever play Miraidon I would play that team
solid frigate
i forgot about it cuz Hearthflame is just so much better against Kyogre compare to Volca
foggy lodge
But yeah Miraidon teams just run any fire type or just something to threat/wall Rillaboom
Hearthflame, Volcarona, Entei
cyan smelt
Idk what to do about it
solid frigate
Idk what to do about it
cyan smelt
Can't use urshifu or torn because they explode to electro drift, can't use Zama, rilla or chien Pao because they explode to fiery dance
foggy lodge
Consider that that team doesn't run many speed control tools
cyan smelt
Grimmsnarl twave is super annoying
solid frigate
people think Peli is Koraidon Answer but rn Peli is just gone
left bobcat
Damn
cyan smelt
I wanted to go to the Brisbane regional but I'm ass at vgc
chrome knot
who gaf just go and have fun
chrome knot
^ other than suica & a player who SHOULD be banned idk any other aus players
solid frigate
hell during Bham i got 4-4 there’s no way you are that far back as well
(Except i got cucked by Negative ass Matchup)
next stump
4-4 solid AF for a first regional
solid frigate
4-4 solid AF for a first regional
yeah and thats with handicapped by Negative Matchups
CSR,CIR and Groudon Twice
All i faced twice on
real prairie
Genuinely think with the MUs at most regionals based on what ive seen i could handle better than what I get on SD lol
so much random shit on SD
mint void
I wanted to go to the Brisbane regional but I'm ass at vgc
Good mentality 🧢
chrome knot
Genuinely think with the MUs at most regionals based on what ive seen i could ha...
i get 80% negative mus in regionals for whatever reason
mint void
Yeah idk MU luck doesnt exist
I didnt play 1 CIR(best MU) in a while tournament with like 30%+ CIR usage.
chrome knot
if i hit all bikes @ vanc i wouldve enjoyed 8-0
instead i got
cir
mirai(yay)
cir
zam
csr
cir
in which zam team was a cir counter team
real prairie
Horses be around
left bobcat
I guess you can there’s a lot of horse playing
solid frigate
Genuinely think with the MUs at most regionals based on what ive seen i could ha...
i lost to a vileplume in Regionals lmao
solid frigate
I guess you can there’s a lot of horse playing
h o n s e
left bobcat
Vileplume?
solid frigate
Vileplume?
in a Groudon team
real prairie
i lost to a vileplume in Regionals lmao
this is new and very funny information
solid frigate
instead i got
cir
mirai(yay)
cir
zam
csr
cir
Zama
Groudon
CSR
CIR
Kyogre
CSR
Groudon
CIR
Fucking fantasitc
left bobcat
But- Venusaur
solid frigate
this is new and very funny information
well its the same match as i miss two dracos
left bobcat
Specs modest draco meteor Koraidon 
real prairie
Zama
Groudon
CSR
CIR
Kyogre
CSR
Groudon
CIR
Fucking fantasitc
Miraidon
Miraidon
CSR
Miraidon
Koraidon
Miraidon
CIR
Zama
left bobcat
Uhhhhh so much lizards
solid frigate
Miraidon
Miraidon
CSR
Miraidon
Koraidon
Miraidon
CIR
Zama
Ok you literally have half of the MUs benefit your team lmao
escpecially Scarf Water Spout
real prairie
most would say Miraidon is an awful MU for a Kyogre haha
left bobcat
Booooo
chrome knot
Miraidon
Miraidon
CSR
Miraidon
Koraidon
Miraidon
CIR
Zama
I WISH
chrome knot
most would say Miraidon is an awful MU for a Kyogre haha
if u used a real kyogre set it wouldn’t be😔🤘
grass cm ogre farms miraidon
left bobcat
Herro?
real prairie
I mean, i had no issues with the Miraidon apart from the one who had a waterpon lol
solid frigate
I WISH
i think you would at least prefer fighting Groudons over Zama cuz i got cucked by my MUs
left bobcat
Waterpon?
left bobcat
water Absorb
Ik
chrome knot
zam is easy for me if its a regular variant
left bobcat
I haven’t seen water pon in quite a while
chrome knot
but when u add dragonite & goggles ditto to the mix its just unwinnable
left bobcat
Well then again I haven’t played in a while
solid frigate
but when u add dragonite & goggles ditto to the mix its just unwinnable
My Zama fight is still stupidly easy
Hearthflame Mirai Simulator
solid frigate
ursh/amoonguss cook regular variants
you mean the ones with Amogus now?
chrome knot
zam pao chi yu flutter amoonguss
solid frigate
zam pao chi yu flutter amoonguss
ok yeah i just mauled it with Hearthflame
and thats my first round
and they have Rilla iirc
real prairie
was looking for inspiration... this team got 8-3 at a tournament recently: https://pokepast.es/821f1e2c8bce44c2
left bobcat
was looking for inspiration... this team got 8-3 at a tournament recently: https...
I think you’re conflicted
Misusing your influence
real prairie
im trying to figure out what the trevanaunt does
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
real prairie
oh shit, make things grass type and murder them with Glacial lance
left bobcat
oh shit, make things grass type and murder them with Glacial lance
Holy electro shot that’s smart
spiral ridge
oh shit, make things grass type and murder them with Glacial lance
One of my fucking fave shinies
So it’s a trick room setter and soak ass strat
real prairie
incredibly clever
spiral ridge
Could you also do it to allies to be immune to spore 
real prairie
or to take a surging strikes
im also struggling to look past the overheat Incin though too
lost sun
how is this guys sneasler going first when I have tailwind up and still moved first when he set up trick room even when he didn't use a prio move
real prairie
got a replay?
chrome knot
grassroots tours at their best
spiral ridge
im also struggling to look past the overheat Incin though too
Just a silly kitty
dense latch
how is this guys sneasler going first when I have tailwind up and still moved fi...
unburden mechanics maybe?
spiral ridge
Prob is
bold geode
Working on new team
Pog
spiral ridge
Did they swap in and out?
lost sun
Did they swap in and out?
they did but after trick room was setup
lost sun
got a replay?
no
dense latch
yea so they lost unburden when they switched out
real prairie
they did but after trick room was setup
So would have had unburden before TR, then didn't have it after
spiral ridge
they did but after trick room was setup
So if they go in and out while your tailwind is still up their unburden ended meaning their double speed left
lost sun
they moved first in trick room without swapping out
spiral ridge
Hm
real prairie
speed tie maybe
spiral ridge
Speed tie yeah
spiral ridge
Could be prio too
polar canyon
I wanna try caly ice but don't really like how trick room plays atm
Do yall think I could at least make it work without tr
Either just slow attacker or a weird fast set
left bobcat
Either just slow attacker or a weird fast set
Fast ice rider? Hahaha
polar canyon
I mean fast iron hands is something I've seen surprisingly working
polar canyon
I guess
left bobcat
Well there’s always going with the max speed and tailwind
charred saddle
but also i think CIR doesnt really like need TR/TW to work
it can still tank damage and just stay ther and glacial lance
polar canyon
Yeah
left bobcat
I’d say it’s better to have speed control
polar canyon
Thing is it doesn't need tr but it does want tr a lot of the time but I guess I can do that
left bobcat
But if it’s against shadow rider yeah it’s over
charred saddle
true, but its just like felt unecessary some of the games?
left bobcat
You gotta bring the back ups like icy wind/electro web
polar canyon
I'm very on and off and play like every few months I am gonna have some atrocious ideas so please bear with me
charred saddle
idk it felt like so after playing with it
polar canyon
You gotta bring the back ups like icy wind/electro web
Electabuzz?
left bobcat
Electabuzz?
That’s an option
left bobcat
You definitely gotta have double fake out
polar canyon
Funniest part of bo3 is trying to predict if your opponent is trying to predict your fake out
left bobcat
Yep
polar canyon
Works like half the time
dense latch
astral kelp
Is future sight feint a thing
dense latch
no
polar canyon
For a reason
astral kelp
Just sash compound eyes sleep powder
It legit feels kinda good
Tho maybe gravity hypnosis might be better because safety Google and dark types of you want to that specifically idk
polar canyon
I think I'll do peli cir
Didn't really wanna use pelipper but can't deny that drizzle wide guard is good rn
And I want that koraidon flare blitz help for calyrex
chrome knot
cir is a winning mu into korai regardless
left bobcat
Sash
polar canyon
It's shaping up to just be a basic cir team that I used to hate
nocturne sparrow
wat is cir 
polar canyon
If you can't beat em join em ig
polar canyon
wat is cir <:CuteTorchic:669500446565597184>
Calyrex Ice Rider
nocturne sparrow
oh yeah that makes sense lol, ty
polar canyon
As opposed to csr shadow rider
Wonder if I should do the average 3 attacks protect urshifu set
I kinda wanna use taunt
polar canyon
Sash
I think I prefer that on pelipper
Maybe I'll use the urshifu spread that lives a thunderclap
left bobcat
I think I prefer that on pelipper
left bobcat
Maybe I'll use the urshifu spread that lives a thunderclap
Slap an assault vest
polar canyon
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Unseen Fist
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 108 HP / 156 Atk / 4 Def / 180 SpD / 60 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Surging Strikes
- Close Combat
- Taunt / Aqua Jet
- Detect
The slowshifu
Can't remember who I got that from
I don't remember the exact calcs other than it lives most thunderclaps so I guess I'll check some numbers for the speed again
left bobcat
I don't remember the exact calcs other than it lives most thunderclaps so I gues...
Thunderclaps?
Ursh can only live 1
polar canyon
Yeah I mean from most sets
left bobcat
If you want ursh to live at least 2 you gotta slap an assault vest and bring in ting lu
polar canyon
I just want 1
polar canyon
252+ SpA Raging Bolt Thunderclap vs. 108 HP / 160 SpD Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 164-194 (86.7 - 102.6%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO
left bobcat
I’ve used that set before but with a different spread
polar canyon
With taunt?
I'm only thinking about the spread rn I'll look at that after
But honestly I think I'll keep that
left bobcat
Very well
polar canyon
252+ SpA Raging Bolt Thunderclap vs. 108 HP / 160 SpD Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 164-...
I actually didn't even do the calc right, I mistyped the spdef here lol
252+ SpA Raging Bolt Thunderclap vs. 108 HP / 180 SpD Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 158-188 (83.5 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
Yeah this is comfortable
And by extent
108+ SpA Protosynthesis Flutter Mane Dazzling Gleam vs. 108 HP / 180 SpD Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 158-188 (83.5 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
I know 108 is not a common number
Just checking how high of a spatk invested gleam it can take
left bobcat
Yeah now you’re pushing it
polar canyon
Parting shot on what
polar canyon
-6 108+ SpA Flutter Mane Moonblast vs. +6 108 HP / 180 SpD Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 14-18 (7.4 - 9.5%)
Since this can't realistically kill I think I'm in a safe spot with the spread fr
Not even friend guard vessel of ruin
But yeah this set at least lives dazzling gleam from booster speed/non specs
left bobcat
You just gotta Chad it out
polar canyon
But yeah I don't remember where I got the spread from and I'm not sure what exactly 125 speed stat is for
Is there any notable value that gets to 124 speed at -1
I think it's not a specific speed calc unless it's for a -1 speed jolly max speed hawlucha
real prairie
Do yall think I could at least make it work without tr
Bulky AV CIR might be your cup of tea
solid frigate
Bulky AV CIR might be your cup of tea
this is gonna theow my calcs out of the window
chrome knot
never melt ice cir
solid frigate
Does anyone have a past for a Reshiram team?
Reshiram?
pliant harbor
workin on a particular shiny zard
sandwiches, help me...
would be neat to get the ladder title for it
were it not the legendary regulation, id already know a solid team based on that one that was goin around with jumpluff and torkoal
but i guess one could sub torkoal for groudon in that case
maybe koraidon if i wanted a different strat
chrome knot
ok
mint void
workin on a particular shiny zard
sandwiches, help me...
would be neat to get th...
brother what?
Is this just a monologue? Are u asking for sth? You want ideas?
pliant harbor
more tossin thoughts
but ideas would help yea
mint void
Koraidon
pliant harbor
any particular reason over groudon in this case?
mint void
No overlapping weakness. Fast sun setter. Personal preference since my mons treat non 100% accurate moves as 50% accurate
pliant harbor
aint that the truth
I just figured with sun out, shared water weakness isnt as concerning
especially since that regulation H team had 3 fire types and ursaluna but did well
but i guess it depends on how you build them and play around main threats
mint void
yeah fire types under sun dont struggle that much with water attacks.
pliant harbor
imagine red orb comes back in champions (likely)
fringe fossil
Primal groudon in my top 3 Pokemon that’d be fire
gentle cragBOT
Result: 268.500000
real prairie
swift swin ludicolo is a speed tie with booster Scream Tail 😭
chrome knot
x1.5 vs x2.0 lmao
real prairie
x1.5 vs x2.0 lmao
Still a speed tie haha
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2318811145
I really really want to know what they are trying to cook with slow Chien-Pao
lost sun
gg
real prairie
well done
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
real prairie
i thought revival blessing KO'd the user, guess not
@torn parrot someone using your team: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2318862075
or some variation of it
torn parrot
<@386594600464416780> someone using your team: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.co...
Very cool variation
solid frigate
gonna fight Jeudy in a stream
real prairie
How close do you want your battle to be?
Me: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2318892440-mik2hoffu4b5k2qnquhlnc5dcmj1nd2pw
mint void
@solid frigatedrop replay after?
solid frigate
<@758873265053106217>u already played?
not yet
mint void
i have to go so...gimme replay
solid frigate
https://pokepast.es/92f12db44a7cf811
here's the team
mint void
imma try build with resh for doubles poss
spiral ridge
https://pokepast.es/92f12db44a7cf811
here's the team
Ooo
Oh shit I forgot to join what you sent lmfao
left bobcat
lol
real prairie
These are fucking cool
mint void
boomer
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2318943026 - ngl the giraffe is putting in work
left bobcat
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2318943026 - ngl the giraffe ...
Hmmm well damn
lost skiff
4+ SpA Tornadus Bleakwind Storm vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Conkeldurr: 156-186 (73.5 - 8...
Tf does this mean gang😭
Conkeldurr and gogoat still clears
uncut cosmos
showing a low investment tornadus would clap that combo
lost skiff
showing a low investment tornadus would clap that combo
Tornadus is NOT touching conkeldurr
uncut cosmos
lost skiff
NO I WANTED TO SAY HOW
Because conkeldurr js better
uncut cosmos
don't tell them
solid frigate
showing a low investment tornadus would clap that combo
that just
A showoff
uncut cosmos
true
solid frigate
boomer
i got nuked by Jeudy
But i did killed Ogerpon and Indeedee in G1 and did a big chunk in CSR on both games
uncut cosmos
joke tone indicator
mint void
i got nuked by Jeudy
But i did killed Ogerpon and Indeedee in G1 and did a big ...
W
cool experience
atomic mural
i got nuked by Jeudy
But i did killed Ogerpon and Indeedee in G1 and did a big ...
i wish i could have played him but i was at school while he has streaming
solid frigate
i wish i could have played him but i was at school while he has streaming
i was using Mirai Ogre that time
solid frigate
i fought a Palkia Lunala team and they got cooked by their own trick room
my Kyogre is slower than both of their restricteds
atomic mural
lmao
solid frigate
and Origin Pulse actually connects
unlike Bham finals
and pretty sure i did run some speed invest
atomic mural
reminds me when i joined a double restricted tournament with kyogre zacian and only lost because i missed one play rough (only time i missed it in the tournament)
solid frigate
i guess i am lucky ass b-
shadow wind
Oh hey I know the person who won that
atomic mural
Oh hey I know the person who won that
i was the only person who beat them in the tournament
shadow wind
Nice job
atomic mural
i dont think im bad at vgc but i just have a hard time bringing the right pokemon to specific matchups
like i lost to 2nd place because i just didnt bring the right pokemon
next stump
that comes with playing the same team for a long time
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
real prairie
i dunno why i struggle with the tera turtle so much!
solid frigate
i dunno why i struggle with the tera turtle so much!
weather removing+ HO tend to struggle more when Pagos is CMd
left bobcat
USE METEOR
solid frigate
Waow
atomic mural
why would he ever switch out roaring moon
astral kelp
idk how to build this
immunity to sludge wave is nice for bronzong but he kinda sucks
mint void
@astral kelp ally switch maybe also cool(idk if its priority) since levitate makes it immune to ground moves which hurt eternatus
astral kelp
<@421131865983025162> imprison body press heavy slam TR poss
yea its not too bad
also hyrop ball is kinda insane
astral kelp
<@421131865983025162> ally switch maybe also cool(idk if its priority) since lev...
YO strat i like it
mint void
Meh
Maybe just skill swap? Idk how useful it would be. Kinda depends if someone else can use it. But swapping levitate onto eternatus wouldnt be to horrible...but I think Imprison Bidy Press TR is probably more useful
craggy dagger
yo :3
chrome knot
novaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
craggy dagger
hiiiiii
mint void
are u disappointed in me yet,,,,,
Smeargel...a bit
Clefairy...nah clefairy is based
mint void
Doom scrolling has again led me onto the depression causing side of it again
Fun algorithm
craggy dagger
are u disappointed in me yet,,,,,
pffff
what’s that
chrome knot
pffff
what’s that
my team i playing this weekend
chrome knot
yeah but cash prize pool
noble hatch
anyone know if turboblaze ignores sturdy?
pallid hare
it should
solid frigate
we know
noble hatch
what about things like weak armor, would those still trigger against a mon that hits them with turboblaze?
dense latch
what about things like weak armor, would those still trigger against a mon that ...
https://m.bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Ignoring_Abilities#Ignorable_Abilities these are all the abilities that turboblaze and similar stuff are able to ignore
unless i missed it weak armor will still activate
noble hatch
ah thanks, that helps alot
craggy dagger
!!?
solid frigate
MOIST CHARLIEMAN IS PLAYING POKEMON SHOWDOWN
i knew that when i saw the tweet from temp6t
but why is he not playing VGC lmao
torn parrot
i knew that when i saw the tweet from temp6t
but why is he not playing VGC lmao
Becaus he doesn’t know how to play vgc lol
Anyone can pick up random battles and play
solid frigate
Becaus he doesn’t know how to play vgc lol
still for the fans lmao
atomic mural
https://x.com/TorrentAegisVGC/status/1900365140295393629
peak
cyan smelt
Why would U use greninja
atomic mural
because why not
astral kelp
Maybe just skill swap? Idk how useful it would be. Kinda depends if someone else...
why not funny gyro ball?
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
craggy dagger
also who’s who 😭
left bobcat
I’ve had it with these mother fcking COMMANDER BOOSTS
left bobcat
also who’s who 😭
I am chorizogrande (the guy that used haze)
craggy dagger
well played 
left bobcat
Pao haze new meta <:poliwhirlkek:932149535311015988>
Reg h murkrow
rustic mountain
fair citrus
Finally made it to ultraball singles took me 3 days and using toxipek stalling ctfu.
rustic mountain
toxapex?
fair citrus
Yeah lol
rustic mountain
oh right thats good in singles
fair citrus
I kept making team's with all offense and wanted to try something defensive
Still new to competitive.
rustic mountain
always good to try different ideas/strategies out
rustic mountain
cyan smelt
thought you were gonna post gladge
astral kelp
rustic mountain
thought you were gonna post gladge
bold geode
<:worryCyclops:799190774473293844>
left bobcat
Ewwwwwwwwuh
charred saddle
https://pokepast.es/a23ef460dfee8d7d
what the actual fuck is this
astral kelp
idk seems like a pretty normal groudon team
shadow wind
😭
astral kelp
wait
shadow wind
3 move Jumpluff is wild
astral kelp
is that water plate dark urshifu
shadow wind
No
charred saddle
3 move Jumpluff is wild
think theres a paste error
shadow wind
It says Dread plate
shadow wind
think theres a paste error
Ah ok
charred saddle
TW rage powder sleep powder and encore
shadow wind
Seems like a great GC team
shadow wind
Although the Jumpluff doesn't outspeed Timid scarf CSR so what's even the point
charred saddle
always has been
shadow wind
is wood hammer ogre a thing
It's the norm
charred saddle
i dont even know how it goes to cybertron vid tbf
charred saddle
maybe like since lots of CSR are quite bulky now
shadow wind
<:Shrug:1254246584036888628> i dont even know how it goes to cybertron vid tbf
People are desperate for Groudon
charred saddle
but idk
charred saddle
horn leech if ur bulky and can stay in field longer
wood hammer for damage
shadow wind
And power whip if you're Cornerstone
charred saddle
but wood hammer like its just good dmg overall
astral kelp
noted o7
cyan smelt
Ability shield koraidon next to geezing seems like a great gc team
charred saddle
ye power whip for rockpon since u dont want to lose sturdy
shadow wind
I usually run Horn leech on Rockpon cause I'm already using Groudon
astral kelp
ye power whip for rockpon since u dont want to lose sturdy
why not healing to regain sturdy if you get fake outedf or something
astral kelp
i mean lioke if you lose 15% or something
charred saddle
yeah and ur also wishing for everything to tickle then
rockpon generally goes max max
atk speed since ur sturdy
astral kelp
i mean for things like fake out and like wide moves specifically
oh true you wouldnt go defensive
charred saddle
bulky and sturdy dont really go well together
shadow wind
Unless you wanna live Urshifu Rapid stuff
charred saddle
i mean feel free to use that if u want
power whip just feels nice
shadow wind
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
shadow wind
How does someone throw this badly
charred saddle
yeah thats a quite niche one. i think some people calced just enough to live surging and rest on speed/atk
shadow wind
252+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Chien-Pao on a critical hit: 126-153 (81.2 - 98.7%) -- approx. 2HKO
252+ Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Chien-Pao on a critical hit: 135-162 (87 - 104.5%) -- approx. 18.8% chance to OHKO
My favourite calc of all time
charred saddle
man watching this vid kinda kills my mood for some reason 😭
shadow wind
Which vid? The Groudon one?
astral kelp
heartbreaking
cyan smelt
You're like, what have they done to my boy
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
charred saddle
100 SpA 😭
shadow wind
i mean as long as it works for them ig
In CTS yeah
charred saddle
yeah ofc
shadow wind
It's just a big torkoal at that point
charred saddle
yeah
astral kelp
LOL
charred saddle
holy fucking fuck
i just realized, its a speed booster bulky flutter
no protect, with TR
i cant
T1 fire tera eruption and TR flutter
cyan smelt
Heat wave nasty plot incin
scenic yacht
is anyone knowledge about teams and how best to optimise/change/alter my team, and/or swap pokemon out if necessary?
shadow wind
Heat wave nasty plot incin
We don't bring that up
cyan smelt
Why not? I think it's a great way to catch opponents by surprise (in CTS)
atomic mural
https://pokepast.es/a23ef460dfee8d7d
what the actual fuck is this
w team
cyan smelt
registered for brisbane, go me
hard lantern
can someone help me
idk what im doing with my team
https://pokepast.es/d1f4111ce5914e4b
craggy dagger
😭
wheres your restricted pokemon
atomic mural
😭
wheres your restricted pokemon
they dont need one
shadow wind
Why not? I think it's a great way to catch opponents by surprise (in CTS)
It was a dark time
hard lantern
😭
wheres your restricted pokemon
I saw a team with palafin and uhm the shield restricted but idk if i could play that
cyan smelt
don't use palafin, urshifu is strictly better
hard lantern
don't use palafin, urshifu is strictly better
but i dont really have a carry
cyan smelt
you lose momentum by switching palafin out
hard lantern
idk i just wanted to try to kinda build arounda pokemon
craggy dagger
who’s your pokemon of choice then?
maybe we can spin things around a bit 
hard lantern
palafin?
craggy dagger
hm
hard lantern
I lowkey just slapped a palafin team with torkal and the lightning dude
cyan smelt
you should be building a team around a restricted though
hard lantern
well everyone is already doing that
cyan smelt
you're not gonna get far without a restricted
hard lantern
well im prob not gonna compete but rather like 1 trick on pokemon showdown
im just starting so no big dreams
craggy dagger
opinions?
hard lantern
but if there is an interesting gimmick with a restricted that isnt really being used then id be down
craggy dagger
kyogre rain boosts palafin
hard lantern
for peliper?
cyan smelt
also tornadus kyogre is a classic combo, torn hits grass types for kyogre
hard lantern
how do I do Ivs and evs and levels
craggy dagger
also tornadus kyogre is a classic combo, torn hits grass types for kyogre
tornogre
hard lantern
should IV always be 31?
craggy dagger
how do I do Ivs and evs and levels
EVs shouldn’t be too bad
if you just wanna get into battling
max max spreads are fine imo
hard lantern
EVs shouldn’t be too bad
if you just wanna get into battling
max max spreads are...
how do ik what to max
hard lantern
alr and I saw from other like teams on youtube that they arent max level or like max IVs
whats the point in that
like on pokeshowdown cuz you can adjust everything
cyan smelt
vgc auto-sets levels to 50
hard lantern
vgc auto-sets levels to 50
yea so what should I be adjusting them to cuz when i copy comps online sometimes they are like 75
or like random nubmers
cyan smelt
just check what the evs say, like 252 hp etc
hard lantern
just check what the evs say, like 252 hp etc
so levels dont matter
waht about IVs should I always set them to 31?
cyan smelt
yes unless it's trick room, you want 0 in speed and special attackers want 0 in attack
cyan smelt
to be as slow as possible in trick room, but since you're not running trick room you don't need to worry about that
hard lantern
to be as slow as possible in trick room, but since you're not running trick room...
why would I want a 0 in attack then
noble hatch
sometimes you also want 0 IVs in attack stat too if you have a special attacker
so they take less dmg from foul play
cyan smelt
and confusion
noble hatch
yes but in general it doesnt really matter
cyan smelt
no, that doesn't matter because there's no special equivalent for foul play
hard lantern
ok
noble hatch
only circumstance i can see it mattering is if you are attacking with a special move on a physical attacker but its something like surf on coalossal to activate steam engine
you wan low Sp.Atk so you do as little dmg as possible but still get the boost
hard lantern
I copied this from online, why would 20 attack be useful or is it not
Raging Bolt @ Booster Energy
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Electric
IVs: 20 Atk
- Thunderclap
- Thunder
- Dragon Pulse
- Protect
noble hatch
no idea, 20 atk IVs makes no sense here to me tbh