competitive_discussion

[solid frigate]

probably

unlike during Miraidon runs

Fari is more better in CIR than Miraidon does

[spiral ridge]

farig is good

hurts sus a ton

[solid frigate]

you mean sus you mean amongguss

[spiral ridge]

yes

psychic noise hurts for 50%

[solid frigate]

yeah i am running Goggles on it anyway

[spiral ridge]

Mhmm

[craggy dagger]

kleavor
ribombee
frostmoth
volcarona
lumineon
illumise (prankster

[astral kelp]

hmm should i run tera blast

[spiral ridge]

Protect is fine

[chrome knot]

t4 finish at toronto cup today, answered question i had of.. “does this team even work”

[bold geode]

It works

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2311185326

man it doesnt even kill gholdengo

[shadow wind]

Tera blast could also be used without Tera so it could definitely be an option

One advantage normal types get

Free special 80 BP stab move

[real prairie]

Is it always special? Or can it be physical too? Or is that only after tera?

[left bobcat]

Yoooooooooo

[real prairie]

Hello

[left bobcat]

Jello

[mint void]

only after tera

[real prairie]

Well then

[chrome knot]

https://x.com/toronto_vgc/status/1896335283106570275?s=46&t=FIWgOpf0yRQcHBdRCEbKnw

TorontoVGC (@Toronto_VGC) on X

Mississauga League Cup Results: March 2 2025

X · Mar 2, 2025, 11:02 PM

^-^

[craggy dagger]

yaaayy
good jobb

[shadow wind]

Where’s the Groudons?

[mint void]

17th

[chrome knot]

toronto is like all cir, kyogre, zam, miraidon, other

[spiral ridge]

no CSRs? damn

[chrome knot]

not that i saw

my mus were
Miraidon
Zamazenta
CIR
Pagos
Kyogre

CIR
Zamazenta

[spiral ridge]

hm interesting

[shadow wind]

😔😔😔

[chrome knot]

5-2 (2-0,2-0,2-0,0-2,2-1,2-0,0-2)

just need to polish the 0-2s

[shadow wind]

Hey 5-2 is awesome

[steep bone]

What's the H-Zoroark team?

[next stump]

@real prairie

you live near here?

[real prairie]

It's about an hour and a half

[chrome knot]

you got this

[real prairie]

Maybe haha I'll look into it

[chrome knot]

i just travelled 4 for 1 cup

[real prairie]

Cheers @next stump

[chrome knot]

you can do 1:30 for 2 locals

[gentle crag]

oneofakindof has given 1 Gen Rep to mlbd

[real prairie]

Haha depends on my kids, but I'll try

[left bobcat]

That’s a lot of horse

[chrome knot]

cir balance is popular here

[left bobcat]

And just where is this here?

[chrome knot]

toronto

[real prairie]

Shiny Chien-Pao be sleepy kitty

Right time for bed... Just missed back to back power whips to stop me going masterball

[spiral ridge]

felt

[real prairie]

93% accuracy pain

I see why Wolfe tries to refuse replying on inaccurate moves

[spiral ridge]

93%?

[real prairie]

Wide lense boosted

[spiral ridge]

wh

base oger wide lens?

[dense latch]

tsareena i think

[real prairie]

Correct

[spiral ridge]

ohh when i think whip i think oger lol

cool set

[real prairie]

Cheers

Pretty standard, boosts triple axel too

[spiral ridge]

i dont see tsa much to know the sets well lol

[real prairie]

Haha valid point

[astral kelp]

i went to the doctors about my imsomnia and he started talking about cognitive behavioural therapy

but he kept calling it cbt

my brain

i was trying so hard not to laugh its not even funny

[bold geode]

@chrome knot can I see the sauce 👉👈

[chrome knot]

nope

its coming to vancouver with me

so after its uploaded to pokedata or top cut explorer

[craggy dagger]

[bold geode]

Awwwww
I wouldn't share but okie
Better fuck it up

[spiral ridge]

she will

[left bobcat]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2311260774

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2311263009

[astral kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[knotty briar]

I think it's time for me to swap over to masters

[mint void]

@knotty briar masters is an age division

afaik u could get puniched for registering for the wrong one

Dont think its enforced on online comps tho

[knotty briar]

I thought Juniors = minors, seniors = adults, and masters = best players
Thanks for letting me know

[bold geode]

Nah you're beating up teenagers LMAO

[spiral ridge]

😭

[bold geode]

He probably be fine? As long as it's not linked to a Play Pokemon account for CP

@knotty briar were you linked for CP?

[chrome knot]

pfffft

[knotty briar]

Nah, I was just playing for the challenge

[bold geode]

Ok so at least there's no repercussions

[knotty briar]

Thought I was going up against adults

[spiral ridge]

Lmao

[bold geode]

Nope
Teenagers

[chrome knot]

lmfao

[knotty briar]

Well I just changed to masters
I'm not letting that happen again

[dense latch]

possibly 10 year olds too

[next stump]

LOL that's hilarious

I don't blame you, but yeah they're age divisions

if you're 16 or older you are a Master

[chrome knot]

Dillon whats ur line into zam

[knotty briar]

I feel a lot less good about my performance now...

[chrome knot]

i got schmoked bruh

[trim hound]

Hyper Voice + Tera Blast + Shadow Ball + Protect iirc

[shadow wind]

Crazy how early you become a “master”

Like last year was my first year ever playing competitive and I was in the masters group and man those GCs are ruthless

[next stump]

winner's team

[left bobcat]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2311273776

[next stump]

wait

fuck

[knotty briar]

Welp, I'll just have to do well in Masters now

[chrome knot]

wat

[next stump]

didnt mean to responsd to you

LOL

[chrome knot]

LMFAO

[left bobcat]

gahhhh damn what was the build

[next stump]

my line into zama is usually like

redirection + sandsear t1, turn 2 look to clean stuff up with priority, play from there

[shadow wind]

Ah heck nah, toxic stall + CIR

[chrome knot]

hmm

i see i see

[left bobcat]

ah heck yahhh

[next stump]

if you can get a speed drop with electroweb that's also really good

[chrome knot]

im snarl bolt :<

[left bobcat]

eleki

[next stump]

ooo yeah that's tough

[chrome knot]

it could be swap to webs so its not insufferable

[left bobcat]

icy webs

new move slows down speed and has a chance to freeze

[astral kelp]

im scarfin

since i cant run sash

[trim hound]

Snarl or Icy Wind

[astral kelp]

i put in grass knot to deal with the ogre

i dont need icy wind

[mint void]

Sitrus CIR is crazy

[astral kelp]

idk if i should run voice tbh

[mint void]

Is it just a stall mon? Like leech seed and shit?

[astral kelp]

does do much

[astral kelp]

LOL

ill use voice instead of psychic

BLIZZARD LOOOOl

yea like hyper voice does nothing

i guess they are both tanky but idk

[shadow wind]

Rilla might have AV

[astral kelp]

lol i love zoroark tho like this shit is peak

dont ask me why hes running giratina idfk

[shadow wind]

Wowza

[spiral ridge]

You’re running double kyurem many questions can be asked 😭

[left bobcat]

You’re not an eagle

You’re a chicken

[pallid hare]

they said they were running zoroark

[atomic mural]

they're just goated

[spiral ridge]

I know just a funny screenshot in general

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/rizabeth373/status/1896370788770685126?t=2PGCnITLfKsZ_7zWd_ASMw&s=19

Érizabeth (@rizabeth373) on X

J'ai gagné 🥹！！！！

X · Mar 3, 2025, 1:23 AM

Erizabeth won with Glimmora

Stall CIR😭😭😭

[mint void]

Hate her

Cba

If I see an increase in this shit Im going insane

[shadow wind]

Ah heck nah

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/NL_Nuz/status/1896327588441956391

Nuz (@NL_Nuz) on X

Fun Pokémon Clips: Day 1 | @WolfeyGlick teases the world's smartest backseater

X · Mar 2, 2025, 10:31 PM

[left bobcat]

Sing better

[atomic mural]

"dude why did wolfe run no attacking moves on his scream tail??!?!?!"

[left bobcat]

One prankster taunt and it’s over

Me personally I like the loaded dice scale shot set better

[shadow wind]

Yeah well lorb cc does one billion damage

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2311334628

Man I hate Zama

[cyan smelt]

Feels like they wasted tera

[shadow wind]

Yeah they did

But it was better to never tera Zama

[cyan smelt]

They could have terad flutter or lando

[shadow wind]

True

[cyan smelt]

Dunno why they thought tera ghost was good in front of two dark types and a ghost type

[graceful scaffold]

how bad would a team where you use no status moves be i wonder lmao. i shiould try it, always worked when i was a kid/j

[spiral ridge]

Prob not the worst

Would be lots of choice

[cyan smelt]

first bo3 game i play and it's wolfey's team lmao

[shadow wind]

Yeah it's been extremely common

[cyan smelt]

lorb boosted cc hits like a truck

[shadow wind]

Yes

It has OHKO'd my Groudon

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2311398050-qvvlcgyk15vfrs15pphx3sb92i5qrqmpw

What the actual heck was this game

Try not to shaft me at every corner challenge level: impossible

[cyan smelt]

should've gone for snarl on jugulis instead of tw

ok bo3 is kinda fun you have to really think about what you bring and when you bring it

[shadow wind]

Their Kyogre outsped my Groudon

[cyan smelt]

Hmmm fair

I'm only in low ladder for BO3 so far so I'm not gonna post any replays

[shadow wind]

My Volc just clutched a 2v1 against Zacian and Amoonguss

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2311425771

Don't mind the start of the game by the way, they absolutely got me

[cyan smelt]

I hate that fluff ball

[real prairie]

LOL every time someone over exaguates a number i hear it in Senku's voice

Also, good morning

[torn parrot]

I’m really trying my damned hardest to see why people hate the Shrek redesign to the point of comparing it to ugly sonic

[real prairie]

people hate change

nothing more to it

the kids who are the target audience wont give a fuck

[torn parrot]

So blatantly unselfaware about it

Like treating it like they just comited a crime when it looks completely normal and even good

Anyywayys

Hope it’s a good movie

[real prairie]

personally i feel they milked Shrek way too far anyway, but im not going to let it spoil my day haha

[solid frigate]

lmfao

[torn parrot]

Well yeah that’s definitely obvious

the last 3 movies were the same plot

[real prairie]

wont lie, i have no idea, stopped watching after 2

[torn parrot]

Shrek 2: Shrek can’t get used to his mundane married life and wants to be a real ogre again

Shrek 3: Shrek can’t get used to his mundane married life and wants to be a real ogre again

Shrek 4: Shrek can’t get used to his mundane married life and wants to be a real ogre again

[real prairie]

Somone needs to check on the lead script writer, he might need marriage councilling

[shadow wind]

I love making up numbers for dramatic effect

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/senku-dr-stone-stone-world-stone-wars-laugh-gif-13817348006091164119

[shadow wind]

A gorzillion even

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2311446779-704xpgtrlicm29okatch2rxkg8ppqelpw

any feedback on this game?

that snowscape play i was tryna predict a kyogre switch

[real prairie]

Would have killed the incin turn 2 personally, would have caused you less trouble later, the taunt was good though

[astral kelp]

would urshifu kill incin?

[solid frigate]

100%
If they are not Sitrus or Tera Water/Grass

i think Mystic Water Urshifu should kill comfortably

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2311468026

Ok i wasn't expect Latios moment

but that that damage

252 Atk Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Icicle Crash vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Tera Steel Latios: 54-65 (34.6 - 41.6%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

[real prairie]

that crit flinch ice crash hurt

[solid frigate]

at least i still have Amogus

[real prairie]

yeah big time

smart move would have been protect-taunt from them

they played it too offensive

[solid frigate]

i was trying to be very defensive with Suicune Latios Lead and i did not expect tornshifu lead

and they try to taunt Suicune but Sacrificed Urshifu by my Latios

(Soul Dew+Luster Purge)

[real prairie]

ive found 9/10 if they have a TW setter they lead with it

[solid frigate]

if they play Offensive in turn 1 at least

i think that if i play Defensively while also killed Urshifu at least i have Suicune without being taunt

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2311475727

[cyan smelt]

i'm enjoying bo3, i'm missplaying a lot i feel but it's a good challenge

[solid frigate]

i might do some B03 with this team

[cyan smelt]

Why does dragon cheer ignore rage powder

[solid frigate]

its the same princple as Coaching

[cyan smelt]

Well that seems annoying lol

[old tulip]

Anybody have any suggestions for two mons I can put on this team?

[solid frigate]

Raging Bolt

[real prairie]

Flutter mane

[cyan smelt]

You might want sash on that Venusaur

[old tulip]

I assumed Avest Bolt but was not entirely sure
I know Fluttermane would be good....But god do I hate using Flutter

[real prairie]

walking wake then

[old tulip]

@cyan smelt Sash over Life orb hey? May I ask why just so I can understand the pick! (Not disagreeing with it! Just like understanding different options!)

[cyan smelt]

Just because this format is high powered and you want to be able to hit stuff like caly s twice

[solid frigate]

and Venusaur is not that tanky

[old tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

Gotcah Gotcha!

[cyan smelt]

And you might want sludge bomb on Venusaur because a lot of caly s are tera fairy

[real prairie]

also lets you threaten those flutters 😉

[cyan smelt]

And rilla

[old tulip]

bomb over powder yeah?

[real prairie]

bomb over weather ball

Stab >

if you want weather ball, put it on Bolt, who gets SpAtk boost in sun

[old tulip]

ok! thank you for the suggestions!

Is there ever a world I run Chi yu/Urshi Dark?

[solid frigate]

Chi Yu is fine

[spiral ridge]

Chi yu sun is a fucking menace

https://tenor.com/view/competitive-pokemon-pokemon-chi-yu-zacian-gif-11975217553074508895

[real prairie]

Now add sun boosted LOL

[forest arrow]

lmao

[left bobcat]

Weather ball

[spiral ridge]

Lemme find new gif

https://tenor.com/view/competitive-pokemon-pokemon-chi-yu-clodsire-gif-7103389245654503824

[lost sun]

what item should I give to salamance and whimsicot

salamence is intimidate if that changes anything

[real prairie]

You seem to be missing a restricted

[dense latch]

what format is this for?

[lost sun]

doubles

[lost sun]

my first time making a team I would use kyogre instead of ogerpon but I don't have it

[real prairie]

if you have teh DLC you can catch Kyogre

the*

[lost sun]

how do I get it

[real prairie]

https://game8.co/games/Pokemon-Scarlet-Violet/archives/413514

[lost sun]

nvm I just Googled it

[mint void]

You should get rid of tyranitar

[real prairie]

yeah dual weather is not the motive

[mint void]

It has huge anti synergy with Kyogre and really isnt that good in this meta

Scizor is fun. Also played it a bit in an Ogre team. Tailwind and great into CIR is decent but I just didnt like slow TW

[real prairie]

dont use it as the TW setter, let it be technician hitter

[mint void]

Since you dont have a Whimsicott item id suggest covertcloak to dodge fake ouz

[mint void]

Yeah. I just needed a TW biy that matches good into CIR so I used it for a bit.

[real prairie]

fair

[mint void]

Had a shiny so

[lost sun]

I like ttar too much to do that

[real prairie]

then dont run kyogre

[mint void]

Salamnce used to like Mirror Herb but that was purely Reg H to play into defiant.
What are its moves?

[lost sun]

EQ dragon claw roost and aerial ace but im gonna change aerial ace

[mint void]

Dual Eing Beat is better

[mint void]

@lost sun u could ho for Zama instead.

Doesnt profit off Sandstorm but at keast doesn't get hurt

[lost sun]

ok

thanks

[young shadow]

I feel like Bellossom needs a slight rework. Their abilities should be Chlorophyll, Dancer and HA should be Serene Grace.

Also swap their base attack and speed

And if we want to be EXTRA spicy, give them Fiery Dance.

[chrome knot]

(?)

[stray silo]

Hi boys, i need some help. I'm building a hard trick room team and i'm having superfun with it. I think i have 5 strong pokemons but i'm missing a 6th and i can't figure it out. Please help me :3
I'm playing:

• Lunala
• Indeedee F
• Torkoal
• Amoonguss
• Ursaluna (normal)

What should i play as last pokemon? I was thinking dragonite but is there anything that can help me with coverage?

[chrome knot]

Hatterene

[stray silo]

i think that's on the lunala slot isnt it

[left bobcat]

…

[chrome knot]

& you can like cut amoonguss for lilligant hisui

[left bobcat]

HATTERENE

[chrome knot]

what (?)

[stray silo]

isn't like the same move pool as lunala?

[stray silo]

love it gonna try it

[chrome knot]

lunala should have ghost/psychic/rock, then hatt gives you psychic/fairy

if ur playing hard tr/psyspam you dont rly care abt doubling on psychic types bc ur clicking a rly broken move lmfao

[chrome knot]

if u want to hit even harder consider turning lunala into dawn wings necrozma

[left bobcat]

EVEN HARDER

just use specs dawn wings to hit EVEN HARDER

[stray silo]

holy smoly i missed necrozma, i'm going to train one and swap with lunala

that spatk is something else

thanks boys i'm going to try hatterene

if you have any other tip let me know :3 is hard clicking on a 6th spot with these 5

[chrome knot]

https://pokepast.es/a5e603c8319a94a6 something like this is really strong

@stray silo

[real prairie]

poor Emma, gave the most advise and gets ignored 😢

[left bobcat]

Cap

[stray silo]

what you mean i said i'm going to sub it

that's the best advise

[chrome knot]

good morning stimky

[real prairie]

Stimky? lol

[stray silo]

honestly yesterday i compared necrozma to lunala and i guess i did the noob move to check the wrong necrozma form

[real prairie]

Good morning Em

[chrome knot]

hai

i got home at like midnight yday and just crashed but i woke up so hungry for mcdonalds mcgriddles but i woke up too late :(

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/its-literally-in-the-name-paul-karyakos-chefpk-its-obvious-in-the-name-its-already-written-in-the-name-gif-2396979780974780803

[chrome knot]

now im just sad and hungry

[real prairie]

What is a McGriddle 🤯

[chrome knot]

its like a

[real prairie]

Also, sorry you feeling burnt out

[chrome knot]

pancake but the syrup is inside asw

[real prairie]

but hope you had fun

[real prairie]

Oooo yum

[chrome knot]

i am feeling the most motivated ive ever been actually LOL

[left bobcat]

Oh pancakes

[chrome knot]

i was just so fucking sleepy after a long day

[real prairie]

Tomorrow is Pancake day 🥳

[real prairie]

came 4th right?

[left bobcat]

No

[chrome knot]

yeah

[real prairie]

G fucking Gs

[chrome knot]

team worked good, just need to fix lines into terapagos and zamazenta

[stray silo]

i was playing wide guard on lunala i'm going to miss it though 😿 how do you handle calyrex without

[chrome knot]

you nuke it

[real prairie]

Blow it up

[stray silo]

the question is do i resist one attack?

[chrome knot]

if cir hit with rock, if force tera now you can click expanding force 80 times

if csr tera water set tr and play for ursaluna to win end game

^& torkoal bc eruption will prob clear board

[stray silo]

sorry for my stupid questions, what csr means?

or cir

[chrome knot]

realize that playing psyspam is alot of takinng calculated risks and knowing when to not give a shit about losing pieces bc it overall makes your boardstate stronger

calyrex ice rider & calyrex shadow rider

[stray silo]

oh ok i get it

thanks so much let me try it out

[real prairie]

Scarf Kyogre is similar, you can lose 3 mons setting the right boardstate to just nuke everything at the end lol

[chrome knot]

i know ive played both teams

[real prairie]

that you have haha

seems we both enjoy blowing things up

[stray silo]

sus

[real prairie]

would be without "up"

[stray silo]

my brain partially ignore words

[real prairie]

Id imagine this doesn't give points?

[chrome knot]

yes it does

[real prairie]

Ooooo

[chrome knot]

those are your local events that give pts (!)

[real prairie]

thats cook

cool*

[chrome knot]

ye the cup i played yday got me 32

oh i technically got 3rd DUBS

my cup bfls are so good rn im ded

to gain pts at cups now i have to get 2nd or 1st LOL

[real prairie]

i have no idea how all of that works lol

but G on 3rd haha

[chrome knot]

sososo your local events “league challenges” and “league cups” are how you earn points locally

with challenges giving 15 for first and then it scales down, and cups giving 50 for first that also scales down accordingly

so yesterday i got 32*pts in which like 7 of them counted bc it was an upgrade from a t8 finish to a t4 one lmao

bc you have a limit to how many pts you can achieve from them, your 4 best placing locals in both categories will count

[foggy lodge]

Im seeing a wild charge Koraidon

Holy

[craggy dagger]

oh dear

[steep bone]

G feels quite hard for me I've gone 18-15 so far 😭

[chrome knot]

i dont think koraidon is a deer?

[craggy dagger]

it can be if it wants to be

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2311659740
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2311662257
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2311663552

Starting to play CIR in B03

[solid frigate]

deeraidon

[craggy dagger]

traitorrrr /tease

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/glastrier-gif-21054576

i already told you i have been play CIR or 2 weeks lmao

[craggy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/calyrex-ghost-calyrex-shadow-rider-astral-barrage-pokemon-gif-12499362770308053912

[solid frigate]

also Suicune and Latios moment lol

[solid frigate]

that Kingambit living:

[chrome knot]

WELCOME

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-dance-calyrex-gif-19192527

[craggy dagger]

im still processing your suicune pick

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/betting-gif-20778769

[solid frigate]

blame me for using Hearthflame and not using Pelipper

[craggy dagger]

what-??

[chrome knot]

WTF

nvm not welcome you are not a cir player yet

[craggy dagger]

solgaleo gets endeavour..

[chrome knot]

i just saw the team in replay

[solid frigate]

how

in thhe fuck did you not know this

that i am messing with almost everything cuz i am bored

[chrome knot]

ive been prepping for vancouver not pocket watching your teams

[spiral ridge]

Good game 1 :3
getting more used to TR?

[solid frigate]

i did not know the opponent is faster than me in TR and he just always attack

[spiral ridge]

It was speed tie no?

[solid frigate]

no defensive plays whatsoever

[spiral ridge]

Oh wait no it wasn’t

[solid frigate]

i am using Tang Team-

[spiral ridge]

Yeah no I was thinking smth else for a sec

[craggy dagger]

https://pokepast.es/6bbacf27b16b1536
i have no clue what this is

[chrome knot]

nearing patcon but for some reason theres a bear

[spiral ridge]

Yeahh you prob coulda done a spore with how Aggro he was lol

[craggy dagger]

ionno lol

[chrome knot]

yeah i know you dont know x)

[solid frigate]

idk man

[foggy lodge]

Why did they go for wood hammer into CIR

[solid frigate]

thats what i did in Game 3

[foggy lodge]

Me when im greedy af

[spiral ridge]

Game two did not go well Jesus 😭

[solid frigate]

Tera Water CIR

[foggy lodge]

They have raging in the back it just punishes the tera

[solid frigate]

yeah but Hearthflame and Lando kinda helps it out

[craggy dagger]

im trying to figure out what my valiant spread was cuz showdown got wiped on my phone

[foggy lodge]

Well its 1200 ladder people button mash there

[solid frigate]

can't you just see your old chat logs to see old teams?

[craggy dagger]

that’s what im tryna do but i don’t know which paste it was lmao

[spiral ridge]

Nice crit damn

[solid frigate]

which game

[spiral ridge]

3 on bolt

Just wiped it

[foggy lodge]

It was at +1

It didn't matter

[solid frigate]

+1 should kill normally

[spiral ridge]

Oh I was thinking not boosted

Thought it was bulky enough to live one

[craggy dagger]

what was that rage powder turn 2 😭

[solid frigate]

i forgot it was Ogerpon-

[spiral ridge]

Rage powder when it’s just oger up and CIR asleep was funny

[craggy dagger]

also why did they lock in wood hammer 😭

[solid frigate]

and i forgot this is not Follow me

[solid frigate]

punish my Tera Water CIR

[craggy dagger]

oh

[foggy lodge]

😭😭😭😭😭

[solid frigate]

also why am i using Tera Ghost on Suicune it literally has a Tera Ghost-

[chrome knot]

novanovanovanovanova

[craggy dagger]

use tera grass

[chrome knot]

see u soon stimky

[solid frigate]

goggles

[craggy dagger]

it already has flinch immunity so unless you wanna get deleted by shadow rider

lefties better

what’s your suicune spread anyways?

[solid frigate]

wait a damn minute

why did i not pick roar

[craggy dagger]

see you soon miss stimky

[chrome knot]

ehehe

[craggy dagger]

morris
no

[spiral ridge]

Oh god roar

[solid frigate]

Suicune @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Inner Focus
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 156 HP / 100 Def / 52 SpA / 196 SpD / 4 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Tailwind
• Scald
• Icy Wind
• Protect

[craggy dagger]

trust me, i know how suicune works-
it does not want

where’s snarl

[chrome knot]

RAAAHHH LMFAOO

[craggy dagger]

[chrome knot]

2pts ahead of wife 😭😭

[spiral ridge]

Yayy

[craggy dagger]

what’s it calced for-

also that’s-
really slow-

[spiral ridge]

What are the points in

[solid frigate]

Living Life Orb CSR Astral Barrage,Rillaboom's Glide

i am doing Snarl later

[craggy dagger]

.-.

not a wood hammer?

[solid frigate]

it can't live one

[craggy dagger]

116+ Atk Rillaboom Wood Hammer vs. 164 HP / 196+ Def Suicune in Grassy Terrain: 176-210 (89.7 - 107.1%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO

[solid frigate]

i mean

[craggy dagger]

you forgot i made a suicune spread-

[left bobcat]

Damn

[craggy dagger]

i can relocate some speed into more hp

[spiral ridge]

62.5% chance it lives

[solid frigate]

i did not notice the spread+ idk if the spread generally work on CIR stuff

[craggy dagger]

116+ Atk Rillaboom Wood Hammer vs. 196 HP / 196+ Def Suicune in Grassy Terrain: 176-210 (88 - 105%) -- 31.3% chance to OHKO

[craggy dagger]

i mean

considering how slow yours is-
i suppose you can kinda just take away the speed-
suicune isn’t meant to hit hard anyways

[solid frigate]

Suicune @ Safety Goggles
Ability: Inner Focus
Level: 50
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 164 HP / 196 Def / 4 SpA / 100 SpD / 44 Spe
Bold Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Tailwind
• Scald
• Snarl
• Protect

[craggy dagger]

252 SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Astral Barrage vs. 196 HP / 36 SpD Suicune: 101-121 (50.5 - 60.5%) -- 86.7% chance to 2HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery

252+ SpA Life Orb Calyrex-Shadow Astral Barrage vs. 196 HP / 36 SpD Suicune: 110-133 (55 - 66.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

252 Atk Life Orb Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Close Combat vs. 196 HP / 196+ Def Suicune: 125-148 (62.5 - 74%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
like

it’s supposed to just sit there and absorb hits

[twin kindle]

Nowak more like noway

I’ll see myself out

[chrome knot]

what

[solid frigate]

lol

[twin kindle]

Don’t you encourage me 😭

[twin kindle]

Hi emmie

[chrome knot]

hai gm bean

[twin kindle]

Good job btw c:
I can see ur hard work has paid off

[chrome knot]

[twin kindle]

I always believed in you smhhsh

[twin kindle]

[chrome knot]

bwaaahhaduibwjfbayuihl im just low confidence player you know thisss

[twin kindle]

That just means you work even harder for what you do achieve
Misss prooo

[chrome knot]

i try my best

[next stump]

@chrome knot LOL sam is one of my best friends

don’t think he has twitter tho

[chrome knot]

apuigfwas78uoyasei LMFAOO

TELL HIM GO WIN REAL FAST

[spiral ridge]

LMFAO

[next stump]

HAHAHAH

[chrome knot]

LMFAOOOO

im deadddd

ive been stolen 😭

[solid frigate]

lmao

[bold geode]

Damn Emma got taken away wallahi

[bold geode]

Helloing

[bold geode]

What you doing stinky

[craggy dagger]

suicune calcs

[bold geode]

I see

[real prairie]

[bold geode]

But what if I jusr

[craggy dagger]

[real prairie]

It really is a small pokemon world we live in

[bold geode]

[spiral ridge]

😭 kidnapping

Said so casually lmao

[foggy lodge]

Pagos toxic in the GC

This is not real

Pain split charm Flutter with it😭

[spiral ridge]

GC is just mad max atp

[real prairie]

GC is fucking wild

[spiral ridge]

You see saner shit in fallout

[foggy lodge]

Stall is real

[twin kindle]

No pfp pure aura

[spiral ridge]

Which is really funny since doubles

Is usually freer of stall

[solid frigate]

Emma is gonna kidnap me when i use CIR+Suicune

[spiral ridge]

Pft
I think she’ll just judge

[twin kindle]

Not if I do it first

[real prairie]

Ooo pokemon horizons on Netflix, don't mind if I do

[spiral ridge]

Mhmm

I gotta watch the cute stop motion one

[real prairie]

Truly incredible how it's made

[spiral ridge]

im so bad with shows so i prob wont watch it for another 3 years at least :)

[chrome knot]

no id just beat u up

[foggy lodge]

Scarf/Booster speed count as a speed control?

[balmy glen]

lets get a pic in vancouver

are u already there I forgot what part of canada your at

[chrome knot]

im leaving thursday morning

& yeah ofc !!!

[chrome knot]

Ontario, i live across the country from Vanc

[small scaffold]

anyone know the optimal ev spread for amoongus and incin?

[dense latch]

for amoong you can go for 236/0/236+/0/36/0- to tank a glacial lance or 244/0/156+/0/108/0- for a generally good spread

[small scaffold]

tyy

[dense latch]

252 HP / 4 Atk / 188 Def / 60 SpD / 4 Spe Impish Nature

[small scaffold]

for incin?

[dense latch]

that’s the most used incin spread

[small scaffold]

ty

[dense latch]

it tanks unboosted surging strikes iirc

[small scaffold]

also would u be down to help me find a last mon for my team

[dense latch]

feel free to send

[small scaffold]

im trying to make a calyrex ice team

[dense latch]

what’s the team so far

[small scaffold]

https://pokepast.es/03a442459a8afeda

[dense latch]

yea looks pretty standard

[small scaffold]

idk how to team build i js steal random ppls teams i find on ladder

id prefer a more original team tbh i just dont rly know how

[dense latch]

yea there’s many ways to build a less standard caly ice team that’s still good

[small scaffold]

fr?

[dense latch]

for example a team with caly ice and regieleki got top 8 at worlds

[small scaffold]

id be down to start from scratch iyw

[dense latch]

but this is fine honestly

you can try landorus incarnate or raging bolt

[small scaffold]

k

what about for a more original team

[dense latch]

https://pokepast.es/56d0c2159137c4f9 this is a pretty cool team

[small scaffold]

yoo

this team looks gas

[dense latch]

it got top 4 at the last international championships

[small scaffold]

so much for my old ways of not using legendaries lmao

this looks fun to use tho

what do i do for evs?

[dense latch]

ogerpon rock is simple

max attack max speed jolly nature

[small scaffold]

done, i did the spread u gave me for incin and amoongus

[dense latch]

you can give your calyrex ice some speed investment so you outspeed things after one or two icy winds

[small scaffold]

idk how much is some im rly sorry these competitive terms arent too familiar to me

[dense latch]

https://munchstats.com you can look for full sets here

[dense latch]

oh no problem

[small scaffold]

yoo tysm

[dense latch]

so since flutter mane has icy wind which lowers both of your opponents speed by one stage

you can put some EVs in speed so your calyrex ice can be faster than some well used pokemon after one or two speed drops

[small scaffold]

i see, but how much speed is some speed?

like 4 evs or like 100 evs

[dense latch]

that’s up to you honestly

some good ev benchmarks for cir are 36 evs, 116 and 156

[small scaffold]

cir?

[forest arrow]

116 is a good start

[dense latch]

calyrex ice rider

[small scaffold]

ah ty

so 116 speed and the rest into attack and hp?

[chrome knot]

@next stump whats ur zamazenta line

[dense latch]

usually it’s 252 HP 116 attack with an adamant nature

then what’s rest on spdef

[small scaffold]

kk, its so cool how u remember these

[next stump]

heavy heavy emphasis on speed controlling the zama/pao and cleaning the game with lando

so something like grimm/bolt or oger/lando lead

[dense latch]

i run that cir spread so i’m pretty familiar with it

[next stump]

CIR typically useless in the matchup, urshifu can be good especially to clean up with aqua jet or KO something like Pao/Chi-Yu

[small scaffold]

ooh you run cir? can u give some tips on how to play them, idk how to play any team properly except maybe the reg h archaludon one but i dont think that counts

[dense latch]

wait let me find the stream of the international championship so you can see how the player used the team

[small scaffold]

omg yes pls 🙏

[dense latch]

https://www.youtube.com/live/uPwAnRgEQns?si=Z3KNwEmNh8XkEX5W

timestamp 9:08:20

that’s one of the games

[small scaffold]

tysm, gonna watch in free time

[chrome knot]

I see, tho none of these tools that i have ngl

i was wondering if ur line was similar to idea i had abt it

[dense latch]

then 10:19:00 is his top 4 set

happy to help :))

[chrome knot]

like it just has to be lando and start blasting take a trade of amoonguss for pao

make zam tera to dragon

ursh has to taunt amoonguss lando keeps applying damage pressure

[next stump]

what’s your OTS 6?

[chrome knot]

pms

[next stump]

https://x.com/andybrphy/status/1896708337896714473?s=46&t=fDxHQLlKCKU_ddfszOAZ6w

andy brophy ✦ (@andybrphy) on X

I recorded all the Day 2 side stream matches at EUIC, and now they're all available over on @DimtheSimVGC's channel. Individual match links below!

X · Mar 3, 2025, 11:44 PM

[dense latch]

nicee

[foggy lodge]

Resetting for 0 speed CSR

wait no its 0 atk

im sleepy sorry

[spiral ridge]

Genuinely broke my head so bad I read CSR as CIR like 5 times wondering what the issue was lmao

[next stump]

I have never had this error before

when I try to put in a pokepaste on showdown, it literally wont let me import

this has to be tied into all my teams being deleted off my PC yesterday as well

[spiral ridge]

Oh Jesus all of them :(

[next stump]

yeah RIP 😦

[mint void]

happens if u clear cookies or cache ircc

or bugs

[next stump]

yeah which is weird because i definitely didn't voluntarily do that

but I read online that sometimes it can happen automatically

I dont really care but it is annoying that I can do a pokepaste link import

[spiral ridge]

Your main teams upload to showdown

Is about only thing I can rec

[dense latch]

yea i’ve heard several stories where it just happens spontaneously

[craggy dagger]

you can also just-
export your entire team library and post it on a google docs

then if everything gets wiped, you can do a mass import back onto showdown

through the google doc

[dense latch]

this sucks a lot i hope you manage to fix it

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/eeecd9376a48a777 I need help finding a final member for this team

[spiral ridge]

Bolt could be good

For rain MU

[craggy dagger]

specs chi yu..

[mint void]

*delete button

[craggy dagger]

why not try iron hands?
adds electric type coverage plus fake out

[foggy lodge]

I got a 2 atk Calyrex

Good enough

[atomic mural]

not good enough

[foggy lodge]

Nuh uh

[mint void]

1 or 0 is perfect

[spiral ridge]

Good enough

I’m lazy so I’d take it

[atomic mural]

i got a 1 attack iv calyrex in like 2 hours

[foggy lodge]

0-3 is the same for -atk nature

[mint void]

got a 0 speed AND 0 attack one in like 30 mins

[atomic mural]

yeah i forgot about that

[forest arrow]

could try iron hands if running farig

theyre a good duo in itself

[tiny karma]

Calyrex-Shadow's moveset:

Physical Moves

Assurance, Body Press, Body Slam, Bulldoze, Bullet Seed, Crunch, Double Kick, Double-Edge, Facade, Foul Play, Giga Impact, Lash Out, Pay Day, Payback, Phantom Force, Pound, Psycho Cut, Seed Bomb, Solar Blade, Stomp, Stomping Tantrum, Tackle, Take Down, Thrash, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Astral Barrage, Confusion, Dark Pulse, Draining Kiss, Energy Ball, Expanding Force, Future Sight, Giga Drain, Grass Knot, Hex, Hyper Beam, Leaf Storm, Magical Leaf, Mega Drain, Mud Shot, Night Shade, Pollen Puff, Psybeam, Psychic, Psyshock, Round, Shadow Ball, Snarl, Snore, Solar Beam, Stored Power, Swift, Tera Blast, Tri Attack, Uproar

Status Moves

Agility, Ally Switch, Aromatherapy, Baton Pass, Calm Mind, Confuse Ray, Curse, Disable, Encore, Endure, Grassy Terrain, Gravity, Growth, Guard Swap, Haze, Heal Pulse, Helping Hand, Imprison, Leech Seed, Life Dew, Light Screen, Magic Room, Metronome, Nasty Plot, Pain Split, Power Swap, Protect, Psych Up, Psychic Terrain, Reflect, Rest, Safeguard, Scary Face, Skill Swap, Sleep Talk, Speed Swap, Substitute, Sunny Day, Tail Whip, Taunt, Trick, Trick Room, Will-O-Wisp, Wonder Room

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Calyrex-Shadow.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

oh
it does learn energy ball…

[foggy lodge]

Giga drain was used too

[spiral ridge]

Hands is prob better yeah listen to them and give it a try

[foggy lodge]

Rilla + Clefairy and you have giga drain lol

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/0ac6489e3cb242c3 i think this is good right

[craggy dagger]

solar beam…

whimsicott calydow with solar beam hm..

[spiral ridge]

Sure

[atomic mural]

solar beam clayrex shadow with koraidon

[craggy dagger]

im a fan of heavy slam over low kick cuz of fairy types but both work

[spiral ridge]

Oh fuck sake not more bulky healing CSR sets

[atomic mural]

i think low kick is good if i have to deal with psychic noise farig

[forest arrow]

I like low kick, just depends on what you feel you need in mus

heavy slam could be good too

[craggy dagger]

yeah

it’s just
asides from a very situational specs overheat or a shadow ball from flutter, you don’t have much else to deal with fairy types

[foggy lodge]

Im gonna send him with hir horse

[craggy dagger]

and chi yu can dispatch the giraffe really easily anyways

[atomic mural]

true

[tiny karma]

Move: Giga Drain

The user recovers 1/2 the HP lost by the target, rounded half up. If Big Root is held by the user, the HP recovered is 1.3x normal, rounded half down.

Type

Grass

Category

Special

Power

75

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Heal

Cannot be selected under Heal Block.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[spiral ridge]

On a team with no like prio tw would scarf chi be better for natural speed?

[foggy lodge]

Specs kinda needs tailwind imo

[spiral ridge]

Yeah I was thinking that

[foggy lodge]

Or fake out rotation, basically balance

[atomic mural]

ok so choice charf chi-yu instead?

[spiral ridge]

Icy wind is there but you may not be fast enough on a chi flutter lead since no booster

[atomic mural]

yeah

[craggy dagger]

1000% yes

[spiral ridge]

Imo yeah but what feels best

[atomic mural]

so i should go overheat over flamethrower?

[craggy dagger]

unless you’re willing to make a quiet 0spe chi yu build with specs-

[foggy lodge]

The thing about icy wind is that its sash so you need the boost to really start outspeeding and work as a speed control for Chi-Yu

[spiral ridge]

Overheat is normal move on them yeah

[spiral ridge]

Yup exactly

[foggy lodge]

So imo you would have to go booster energy on it to have lines without sun

[craggy dagger]

snarl heat wave dark pulse overheat is the general set
but flamethrower isn’t too bad either since it’s more accurate

[spiral ridge]

Yeah

Big issue with sun is relying on it for synthesis can be rough

Booster can feel better especially when making leads

[foggy lodge]

Choice Chi-Yu just needs heat wave overheat dark pulse snarl

[spiral ridge]

Spread spread big hurt big hurt double STAB
Truly a great set

[foggy lodge]

Maybe you can drop snarl for tera blast if you are tera ground but if not you live with those 4

[craggy dagger]

i mean-
i know a couple that run tera blast and like
tera ground/ghost

[foggy lodge]

What does tera ghost tera blast would do for Chi-Yu tbh?

I think dark already does what it needs to

[craggy dagger]

um
well ghost is mostly for fake out but like some people use tera blast-
there’s also grass and water blast

[foggy lodge]

Grass and water was something i saw with cloak Chi-Yu i think

[spiral ridge]

That fish fucking hates fake out

[craggy dagger]

i remember what it was

ghost blast psychic heat wave and overheat on scarf

[tiny karma]

Chi-Yu's moveset:

Physical Moves

Bounce, Crunch, Facade, Flame Charge, Flame Wheel, Flare Blitz, Giga Impact, Lash Out, Payback, Take Down, Temper Flare, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Burning Jealousy, Dark Pulse, Ember, Fire Blast, Fire Spin, Flamethrower, Heat Wave, Hex, Hyper Beam, Incinerate, Inferno, Lava Plume, Overheat, Psychic, Ruination, Snarl, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Confuse Ray, Endure, Light Screen, Mean Look, Memento, Nasty Plot, Protect, Reflect, Rest, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Spite, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Taunt, Will-O-Wisp

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Chi-Yu.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[atomic mural]

do choice scarf chi yus always run max max?

[spiral ridge]

Think so yeah

[atomic mural]

awesome

[craggy dagger]

usually yeah
sometimes youll reduce some speed for hp

[atomic mural]

now i have absolutely no idea how to ev the rest of my team

[craggy dagger]

iron hands only really has like 2 EV spreads,
flutter mane would prolly just go max max since its sash

[forest arrow]

well flutter korai and chi yu general will be max max

[craggy dagger]

i have no clue how to EV koraidon
amoongus would prolly be super bulky

[forest arrow]

LO korai is just max max jolly

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/678a6453df29336c this is what i have so far

[spiral ridge]

Uh I have a farig spread for you one moment

[twin kindle]

This one is basic if you want more bulk but still out speed csr

Lycoris (Chi-Yu) @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Beads of Ruin
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost
EVs: 68 HP / 84 Def / 116 SpA / 4 SpD / 236 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Heat Wave
• Overheat
• Dark Pulse
• Snarl

I think 116 spa modest is the same as 252 spa timid

[forest arrow]

Amoonguss @ Covert Cloak
Ability: Regenerator
Level: 50
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 244 HP / 156 Def / 108 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Atk / 0 Spe

heres a general amoongus spread

[forest arrow]

2nd bump def, dump spdef

[spiral ridge]

Idk what it’s calced for but it felt good

[forest arrow]

Im actually playing a similar korai comp as you

playing indeedee crown over hands farig atm haha

[spiral ridge]

How’s crown feeling?

[forest arrow]

Its fun feels better than scarf lando thats fs

I did have hands on that team with lando and i did enjoy hands

[spiral ridge]

Specifically pointing out scarf lando damn
If I miss like 3 sandsears im just gonna think of that now

[atomic mural]

https://pokepast.es/eb609f67717b5b86 so like this?

[spiral ridge]

Chi yu isn’t max max?

What message did I miss

[dense latch]

you can give it some bulk

[atomic mural]

this one

[spiral ridge]

Oh I see it now

[forest arrow]

lol

[spiral ridge]

Bulk fine I just was confused cus I missed that message

[spiral ridge]

2,1,153,151

[forest arrow]

Showdown tripping haha

[spiral ridge]

Motherfucker hit the whole gen 1 Pokédex

[forest arrow]

Looks good Id move 56 from atk over to hp on hands and your set

[atomic mural]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2311969972-9prgvygatoqowaryrwt1rcqjifao31hpw

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2311970873-rus08yipn0b6scgkkdjcjjdsqqehgndpw

[atomic mural]

We dont talk about this Game 1:https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2311976947-yao1aj6hy4c2ciqc9nbsw7bow134mtupw

Game 2: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2311979571-afj03q5sx4m2g3jbqrrndhyeq2v4o6mpw

Game 3: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2311981775-0bqvi44eeii84frrgk7v6iv4mwcrf07pw

[left bobcat]

My legs feel like noodles rn

[foggy lodge]

Dude I had a shiny Geezing that I caught like a year ago

And now i realized its 1 atk im the luckiest person ever

[atomic mural]

cooked noodles or still in the box noodles

[left bobcat]

Soggy noodles

[atomic mural]

damn

[spiral ridge]

Oh god you’re doing calydow geezing aren’t you

Is it dozogiri too?

[atomic mural]

[left bobcat]

GUHHHHHHHHHHHH

[foggy lodge]

Well gonna hunt for shiny Dragonite

Is kinda ugly but I don't need specific ivs so its easy and why not

[spiral ridge]

Calydow geezing paonite? Neat

Or you just shiny hunting lol

[foggy lodge]

Mhm

Its Kyle Livinghouse's team

I have Hands and Urshi

[cyan smelt]

Add dozo giri for maximum annoyance

[spiral ridge]

Don’t.

[foggy lodge]

I prefer this one

[spiral ridge]

Glhf then

[foggy lodge]

I have sash CSR and lorb Pao

[spiral ridge]

That’ll throw someone off wtf

Neat

[forest arrow]

Its neat i seen it featured somewhere on youtube

[foggy lodge]

Yeah James Baek used it recently

[forest arrow]

Maybe that was it

[foggy lodge]

But I like the team is like perfect rn into the meta imo

The stall mode of Geezing helps a lot and then you have mons that can just clean up the game like CSR and Urshifu

[forest arrow]

encore csr

[spiral ridge]

I uh

I always just sandsear in case geezing protect and they usually can’t tank more than 2

It’s fairly good pressure on them

[foggy lodge]

Yeah it doesn't take a sandsear

I was testing some interaction with Ditto and Geezing and i got sandsear by a non sheer force Landorus and it killed Weezing lmao

And im almost full HP full SpD

[left bobcat]

Geez

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/58ecb7eee8af8953

Here's the paste and the EVs

[spiral ridge]

Stall that :D (I’m just always glad I avoid that pain)

[foggy lodge]

I only put drain punch over heavy slam on Hands and strange steam over dazzling gleam

[left bobcat]

I use a very identical team

[spiral ridge]

Ah scarf rapid
Uh oh

[left bobcat]

I make a few swaps

[forest arrow]

Yeah no drain punch is offputting

hands needs it

[foggy lodge]

It just felt bad tbh

[left bobcat]

Yeah my hands need it

I got a bruise on my hands

[foggy lodge]

I needed hands to survive to stall things like tailwind or trick room and then i could make it kill itself with wild charge to have a free switch in

I put strange steam over dazzling because dazzling is an abomination on weezing imo

[left bobcat]

Gunk shot

[forest arrow]

call me crazy but i like weezing over geezing

[foggy lodge]

60 BP for single target vs the 95 BP

[spiral ridge]

Strange steam I never got the confuse on lol

[left bobcat]

Liking and being better are two different things

[spiral ridge]

Yeah fairy typing is really nice

[left bobcat]

You guys look like fairies

[forest arrow]

Adding a steel weakness sucks

[left bobcat]

Wait-

[foggy lodge]

By design I prefer og because i loved James

For comp galarian is better because fairy is so good

[spiral ridge]

Both good reasons lol

[forest arrow]

No yeah I get it

[foggy lodge]

1 extra weakness for everything else that fairy gives you is a way more favorable trade

[left bobcat]

koffing the goat

[mint void]

meh. like Steel isnt that popular of a offensive type rn

[foggy lodge]

I don't pick Weezing against the steel restricteds

It doesn't do too much

[left bobcat]

What steel restricted?

[foggy lodge]

For the other mons like Heatran or Gholdengo meh its there

[foggy lodge]

Dogs

[left bobcat]

Eh just bring the cat

[spiral ridge]

What about hands or heavy slam users?

[foggy lodge]

Inti Miraidon i pick it because denying the terrain or prankster its very good

Against things like Dozogiri Miraidon I would also pick it because i can deny commander and the terrain

Steel moves are just kinda annoying but not hard to deal when i have Hands and Urshifu

[spiral ridge]

Makes sense

[left bobcat]

Bozoskibidi

[left bobcat]

Indeedee

[foggy lodge]

Against Zama is just feels specially bad because Zama would force the tera and then i can get pinned by Raging Bolt

[spiral ridge]

And you do like nothing to Zama back

[foggy lodge]

And toxic spikes doesn't do anything because Zama is steel and Amoonguss erases them

Only thing it can do is taunt Zama so it can't use wide guard

[left bobcat]

Hmmmmm sounds like you’re getting walled

[spiral ridge]

But you’re psychic csr so you can get around wide guard decently

And chunk em

[foggy lodge]

Not into the Pao Zama line

[left bobcat]

Expanding force

Oh-

[spiral ridge]

Ah true

[foggy lodge]

The only funny thing about Weezing into Zama is that i can nuke it with Hands Geezing

[left bobcat]

Hmmmmmmmm Urshifu

[spiral ridge]

Geezing wouldn’t help much there either tho it can’t hurt pao that much right

[foggy lodge]

It can put it on sash

[left bobcat]

But you can wisp it

[spiral ridge]

I’ve only ran bulky geezing idk its output much

[spiral ridge]

That’s not bad

[foggy lodge]

Im running strange steam because of that for like wide guard mons

Weezing CSR likes could be walled

[left bobcat]

Hmmm I feel like volc would be really good for this

But that’s just a theory

A game theory

[foggy lodge]

Strange steam ruined my full 100 accuracy moves tho

[left bobcat]

Gravity

[spiral ridge]

Real

[cyan smelt]

Is play rough more accurate

[atomic mural]

i know play rough is 90 but idk about strange steam

[tiny karma]

Move: Strange Steam

Has a 20% chance to confuse the target.

Type

Fairy

Category

Special

Power

90

Accuracy

95

PP (max)

10 (16)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[mint void]

where?

didnt follow the convo

[left bobcat]

I mean rage powder

Against pao pao and zama

[next stump]

does rocky helmet do exactly 16%?

i feel like it does based off showdown

[tiny karma]

Item: Rocky Helmet

If holder is hit by a contact move, the attacker loses 1/6 of its max HP.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[left bobcat]

For a second I thought you said asap rocky

[next stump]

okay 1/6th is 16.67%

and i think pokemon truncates

so 16% ill work with

thank you 🙂

[left bobcat]

I’ve just been waiting for so long

[mint void]

Th8s triggers me

[chrome knot]

ew wtf

[left bobcat]

Holy shot

[mint void]

Thats from the foreign team someone sent in here recently

The funny Archaludon translation

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 100: Voltorb-Hisui

Types

Electric/Grass

Abilities

Soundproof, Static, Aftermath (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

40/30/50/55/55/100

Total

330

Weight (Low Kick BP)

13kg (40 BP)

Height

0.5m

Introduced

Generation 8

Base Species

Voltorb

Evolution

Electrode-Hisui

Egg groups

Mineral

Gender Ratio

N/A: 100%

Color

Red

Sableye version 4.28.1

Pokémon No. 1008: Miraidon

Types

Electric/Dragon

Abilities

Hadron Engine

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/85/100/135/115/135

Total

670

Weight (Low Kick BP)

240kg (120 BP)

Height

3.5m

Introduced

Generation 9

Egg groups

Undiscovered

Gender Ratio

N/A: 100%

Color

Purple

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

what’s the 4 in spatk for 😭

[chrome knot]

can any zam players run sets rn

[old tulip]

Need some opinions on my Reg G team!
Anything that looks like it should be changed? Are the move and Item sets lookin ok? Any help is awesome!

considered Electroweb on RBolt

[cyan smelt]

It's always good to have multiple methods of speed control

[old tulip]

Gotcha! Over Volt switch yeah?

[cyan smelt]

Yep

[old tulip]

@cyan smelt My only fear is the team is super special heavy, Would I ever consider Urshifu dark over one of these guys?

[cyan smelt]

if it has what your team needs, you already have two dark types and it's not too good to overlap with types too much

[old tulip]

I understand! I just fear I am low of Physical damage as I have like no ev in attack for umbreonb

he is mostly there for hard trick room

[cyan smelt]

most caly ices are tera fairy anyway so you could consider scrapping umbreon and replace with urshifu to force the tera at least

i'm no expert teambuilder though

[cyan smelt]

ok this sucks i'm losing more in bo3 with my team

[mighty stump]

You don’t need offenses if you’re using Foul Play anyways

It uses the final attack stat of the opposing Pokemonz

[real prairie]

Morning

[cyan smelt]

Morning, I'm getting slightly better at playing against the miraidon team (except when I teraed zamazenta stupidly)

[real prairie]

Nice stuff

I'm considering a ground level rebuild of my team, wondering if Male Indeedee might be the solution i need, still being able to outspeed Rilla and apply offensive pressure whilst also being able to imprison TR

[cyan smelt]

Could be a good idea yeah

Farigiraf is good too and can use foul play

But it's not fast

[real prairie]

but is slower than RIlla, which means Kyogre is open to RIlla assaults

i could go female indeedee and redirect, but i prefer killing things LOL

[cyan smelt]

Female Indeedee is more passive

i already know i hate playing against encore lol

[real prairie]

haha i love encore, partnered with basically the fastest fakeout around with Ludicolo its lovely!

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2312178181

[mint void]

@solid frigate someone on Wolfeys Server wanted to do sth with Body Press Bulk Up Koraidon for fun.

Gravity for purely Hypnosis spam is a little wild

[real prairie]

i was considering a gravity specs kyogre team last night

[solid frigate]

thank god I have Taunt on Roaring Moon

[gentle crag]

morrispxg456 has given 1 Gen Rep to lnk1603

[real prairie]

its confirmed @mint void you are god

🌟 PokeDoku Champion 🌟
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[forest arrow]

Gm

https://pokepast.es/5d1d3e4b806275b0
the sauce atm

[chrome knot]

i hope everyone plays korai & mirai in vanc

itd make me rly happy

[mint void]

late but

good that you see it

[next stump]

https://pokepast.es/86b765c9562824a9

Yosuke was cooking with this team

[chrome knot]

no jet ursh we feast

[real prairie]

Whats the HP/SpDef investment of the usual wellspring?

[next stump]

it is very nice that tera fairy dazzling + rocky helmet + moonblast is a KO onto Zama almost exactly

does like 98% if you get all min rolls

[left bobcat]

I choose you

Use thunderbolt ☝️

[cyan smelt]

61.3% gxe on bo3 not great

[mint void]

id argue it is

depending on where you at rn tbh

[cyan smelt]

only 1240 so still mid

but it's super tough

[left bobcat]

Just use a gimmick

[real prairie]

its not bad

[real prairie]

@next stump you have anything?

[stray silo]

Yo boys, sup?
I tried what you suggested yesterday and i did some steps ahead but i was missing some tools i felt i needed like wide guard. So this is where i'm sitting at and it performs well https://pokepast.es/17e2b9d09dda6820
Now, i need advise for the 6th slot. I tried hatterene and is a cool way to fill the spot but i'm SUFFERING from farigiraf clicking on exclusive for banning trick room. Is there a pokemon that can 0KO the giraf? I need a hard counter only for that :3

does dark urshifu do the trick?

[real prairie]

You want TR, i dont understand?

you are facing enough Imprison Farig to cause you issue?

[stray silo]

i'm facing too many imprisons yes

and i'm struggling to get rid of the giraf before he does it so i was thinking to play a specific counter for that

if there's any

sorry i typed exclusive instead of imprison cause i play it in italian :3

[real prairie]

Most Farig are Def heavy, so a strong SpAtk could help.

Scarf Chi Yu could be a good option, hits hard, gives you a fast utility to use with the sun boost, boosts the SpAtk of Torkoal inside of TR, Stab Dark SpAtk moves etc

mean you could run charcoal Torkoal and have protect and helping hand too so its not useless outside of TR

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/italvolley-campioni-del-mondo-world-champions-mondiali-italia-gif-26714059

[stray silo]

let's try chi yu! ty

[spiral ridge]

Can confirm that fish is fucking annoying for the giraffe

[stray silo]

good to know o.o

Chi-Yu @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Beads of Ruin
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Overheat
• Heat Wave
• Dark Pulse
• Snarl

This should be fine right? Should overspeed also shadow* calyrex i think?

[solid frigate]

yeah its alr

but Tera Type to Ghost would be fine

[dense latch]

modest also outspeeds with scarf btw

[stray silo]

perfect i go with modest then

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2312353107

I regret run thhis team for a match-

[real prairie]

Support Gigas?

how retro Wolfe of you

[spiral ridge]

wtf

That’s what slow starts message is?

“Regigigas can’t get it going”
I might be too childish

[real prairie]

well he is an old boy

[boreal mauve]

Shiny Koffing

Provided by Nexus-Z

[solid frigate]

i am being stupid with the team

[real prairie]

little blue guy for Regigigas

[real prairie]

nah the message is just funny

[spiral ridge]

Get him his rare candy to help

[real prairie]

You played that fine

[spiral ridge]

Yeah no wasn’t that bad play at all

Maybe Tera RM next time but rilla was perfectly fine

[solid frigate]

i just think regigigas is funny for a one off ggame