competitive_discussion

[shadow wind]

I can get that 79% on occasional but that 80% still alludes me

[rustic mountain]

ive yet to hit 80

[shadow wind]

80 is like

[cyan smelt]

I can't even fluke 70%

[shadow wind]

You've cooked, and cooked hard

[torn parrot]

I’ll find it

[shadow wind]

🙏

[rustic mountain]

yea

[shadow wind]

And it's not even just the team, it's the player too

[rustic mountain]

or ur just extremely good at player diffing

[shadow wind]

Yeah or that

[cyan smelt]

I might hop on bo3 later, I'm out of practice

[shadow wind]

I love Bo3

Friendship ended with Bo1

[rustic mountain]

b03 is more honest

which is better

[shadow wind]

And somehow Smeargle still manages to shaft me

[rustic mountain]

i like bo1 tho but bo3 is goated

[native nova]

[rustic mountain]

really havent played it much the past cppl years tho

[torn parrot]

No wait your right your right this is your best record

[rustic mountain]

i dont think so unfortunately

[shadow wind]

Not my best GXE though, you're right on that end

I think my peak GXE is like 79.5%

[rustic mountain]

we are at a point w/ legends and restricteds most mons are kinda wiped out of being viable

[shadow wind]

Then I immediately lost 3 in a row

[torn parrot]

Pheww

[torn parrot]

😔 🤝

[shadow wind]

The "It's so over" crash after that high of a "We're so back" is incredibly humbling

[rustic mountain]

not to say haxorus cant be good in a future format but atleast in the present moment and immediate future i cant see it having a place

cool mon tho and great shiny

[torn parrot]

Im so ready for pokemon champions

[shadow wind]

Haxorus is a cool niche into Terapagos

[native nova]

Damn, I'd want to run a team based around non legendarys, would garchomp be a better viable option?
I was think like Garchomp, Flutter Mane, Iron Valiant, Pawmot, Meowscarada and Iron Bundle

[shadow wind]

And I guess Lunala/Lugia

[torn parrot]

guys imagine PLAYING COMPETITIVE ON YOUR PHONE FINALLY

[shadow wind]

The addiction needs to stay in my room

[twin kindle]

Me la what

[solid frigate]

rest in piece my phone storage

[rustic mountain]

u could run anything really tbh u just mentioned it being competitively viable. garchomp is generally a better option over haxorus tho yea

[cyan smelt]

So once champions comes out sv comp dies right

[torn parrot]

Oh god your so right

[shadow wind]

Mold breaker for Shadow shield/Multiscale

[cyan smelt]

Ogerpon is better mold breaker

[solid frigate]

i already play Honkai Star Rail i can afford another game who potentially have fuck ton of Storage

[rustic mountain]

wat if its jus new age pokemon stadium

u still gna be hype?

[shadow wind]

I think it's going to be that

[twin kindle]

Don’t expect much from big nintend

[rustic mountain]

im keepin my expectations low atm

[solid frigate]

yeah

[twin kindle]

Whens the last time they cooked

[solid frigate]

Legends Arceus

[shadow wind]

Valid

[rustic mountain]

id still be happy w/ a revamped stadium but man the potential for champions really could be huge

[rustic mountain]

what level of cooking are we talking

[torn parrot]

Nah surely it’ll be the go to battle simulator surely

[twin kindle]

Met expectations

[solid frigate]

good games that aren't rushed

[native nova]

ORAS

[solid frigate]

ok thats a bit of a stretch

They cooked PLA

[rustic mountain]

idk if they ever met expectations since the community has gotten to where its at haha its almost an impossible task

[native nova]

PLA was mid for a remake

[twin kindle]

My expectations are not a buggy mess of a game

[native nova]

[solid frigate]

Pokemon Fans trying to be Sonic Fans moment

[rustic mountain]

sonic games are objectively bleak for the most part

[solid frigate]

at least they cooked after Sonic frontiers lmao

[rustic mountain]

while pokemon has its flaws i think its been solid the past cppl gens personally as someone returning to the games

[patent marsh]

Yea sonic games are an omega hit or miss even if it's well made

[rustic mountain]

its either all time banger/classic or wtf even is this

[azure ether]

this resonates to me as someone who emulated DS games and skipped 3DS

[rustic mountain]

i find the old gens borderline unplayable at this point

as someone whose tried to replay them in recent years

[patent marsh]

Generally speaking ignoring the game's performance and horrible textures in world map, gamefreak took a really good direction mechanics wise and gameplay wise

[azure ether]

the first time I played Sword was probably the most fun I ever had playing Pokemon since Platinum

[solid frigate]

saw a Giratina in Ladder

Yeah i need a break

[patent marsh]

Just a shame SV didn't have PLA catch system

[molten oasis]

[solid frigate]

hey drago

[rustic mountain]

agreed, the overall experience to me was really enjoyable, story was a big step up from swsh. dlc tho having flaws of its own had some good aspects to it

[azure ether]

SV would've been better if it wasn't open world like it is right now. would've preferred the map being split into areas like PLA

[molten oasis]

SV goated games

They were just terribly optimized

[rustic mountain]

ill never forgive them for making the snacksworth legends shiny locked and basically ditching crucial aspects of the terapagos storyline/lore

[patent marsh]

Also them pushing a lot of QoL to reduce the barrier of entry for VGC like how they changed packs in Pokemon TCG and made league battle decke

[cyan smelt]

Blame Nintendo's underpowered hardware

[patent marsh]

It seems the entire IP is just on a run to push for accessibility

Which is good for the long term growth

[molten oasis]

I kinda hate that they keep shiny locking everything

Id so hunt pao and chi yu it be so worth it

[azure ether]

they're not IV locked too btw so it's possible to get 0 IV legendaries

[cyan smelt]

And the shinies we do get you can't hunt them, they're dex rewards

[molten oasis]

Yea

[azure ether]

like 0 in all stats

[cyan smelt]

They're essentially clones

[rustic mountain]

yea i agree, i think the competitive accessibility has improved immensely from the last few gens. i mean having stuff like mints, bottle caps, resetting ivs/evs more easily, giving resources to ppl to be able to ev train/iv train more effectively. (pokejobs in swsh was goated)

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2309467515-i252xqbv5dt9wap91f5a0tgom0yhns7pw

[rustic mountain]

ew

i want my legends 4iv minimum

[molten oasis]

My favorite 0 attack chien pao

[solid frigate]

lol

[patent marsh]

Next they just need feature to reduce IVs to value you want and game is 100% accessible as long they make it easy to get access to it

[rustic mountain]

well that wouldnt be snacksworth legend but sure

[molten oasis]

What’s a snacksworth legend?

[patent marsh]

Reshiram etc

[molten oasis]

OH ok

[cyan smelt]

In some ways they've made vgc more accessible but they've made it more expensive, eg caly being locked behind a paywall

[molten oasis]

Oh yea them blocking those hunts was cringe

[patent marsh]

Yea crazy how calyrex and genies not catchable in SV

[solid frigate]

also why is Calyrex not part of it

[rustic mountain]

me calculating the ev reducing berries w/ the current evs and then using the feathers to then get those last fews points i need

[molten oasis]

I’d hunt shiny Spectrier

And never use it but it’s a pretty shiny

[fluid fiber]

0-2

[rustic mountain]

oh wait wrong response

[cyan smelt]

I'd hunt chi yu

And pao

[molten oasis]

Hm what else is hunt worthy, kyogre and groudon

[azure ether]

Ray

[rustic mountain]

i got both of those in das

[molten oasis]

Nah I got the raid ray

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

I need to do that with kyogre. Pink whale

[patent marsh]

Latios latias have pretty good shinies

[azure ether]

Solgaleo and Lunala

[molten oasis]

Pink whale and blue dog would go hard

[rustic mountain]

make sure ur path that ur resetting has wide guard

[molten oasis]

It spams spout/pulse?

[rustic mountain]

pulse spout yea

[molten oasis]

Ah

[cyan smelt]

Either wide guard or cloud nine, or lilligant

[azure ether]

Lightning Rod + Wide Guard + Maractus makes Kyogre unlosable

[molten oasis]

I also have to go do the SWSH dex

[rustic mountain]

or maybe its just pulse

[molten oasis]

Man am I excited to do that

[azure ether]

pulse and surf

[rustic mountain]

idk w/e it is it hurts

[cyan smelt]

And body slam for some reason lmao

[azure ether]

it pulses when it's desperate

[torn parrot]

7 minutes till arceus WOOOO

[rustic mountain]

u pray it goes for body slam they added that as a mercy

[cyan smelt]

And you can bet you're getting paralysed when it uses body slam on you

[molten oasis]

Yea lol

How long did it take you to get them tree?

[azure ether]

as long as your wide guarder isn't wiped out you shouldn't lose

[rustic mountain]

right surf and pulse. i remembered it was 2 spread water moves

[torn parrot]

I can’t wait till furret ex comes to pocket

[cyan smelt]

It has thunder too so pelipper is out as a wide guarder

[azure ether]

it's the ground bosses that are the most cancer to hunt

[molten oasis]

Zygarde lmao

[azure ether]

it's fine as long as there's lightning rod in your comp

[rustic mountain]

lando isnt bad at all

jus need a decent path

[azure ether]

lando has 3 spreads

[molten oasis]

Ice types

[rustic mountain]

zygarde is a nightmare if u dont have an ice type

or ice move

[cyan smelt]

Zygarde is awful if you don't have a special ice type because beartic and piloswine have special moves but are physical attackers

Porygon, cryogonal and jynx are good

[azure ether]

you'll only rly need Wide Guard at the minimum for Zygarde tbh

[molten oasis]

Im not ever gonna hunt zygarde

[rustic mountain]

yea i jus didnt find it as difficult as g money and kyogre. i didnt even need wide guard on the path i was resetting wen i got the shiny. wide guard on the gen 3 guys is like 100% needed

[molten oasis]

My plans are the tapus and kyogre

[azure ether]

it's not like it resists everything outside Ice

[molten oasis]

The tapu shinies are so cool

[solid frigate]

or dragon moves but yeah

Zygarde can be a fucking tank

[molten oasis]

I want fini and koko specifically

[azure ether]

why not, when Z-A is right around the corner

[rustic mountain]

nah even w/ dragon ur fucked

[molten oasis]

Because it’s miserable

[rustic mountain]

u do enough to get to half and then he just gets like most of the hp back and wipes ur team

[solid frigate]

oh yeah core enforcer

[cyan smelt]

You have to kill zygarde in two turns otherwise it's over

[rustic mountain]

kalosun gets it

[azure ether]

I hunted Groudon being the Wide Guarder. imagine me spamming Wide Guard and hoping my 3 AI teammates chip away at it

[molten oasis]

Oh god doing DA with ai

[rustic mountain]

this was me too

it actually worked well but it was hilarious

[molten oasis]

Top 10 most miserable experiences

[rustic mountain]

i had pelipper which was perfect

nd iirc it was atleast 2 teammates w/ water moves

[azure ether]

I was Peli, AI were Abomasnow, Poliwrath, and Bronzong

[rustic mountain]

solid team

mostly just sweating that he doesnt set sun then hit aboma w/ a fire move multiple times

[azure ether]

The grassy terrain that never happened because AI can't dynamax

[rustic mountain]

im trynna remember its moveset

[azure ether]

the bronzong can be smart sometimes by skill swapping Drizzle

[rustic mountain]

thats clutch

[cyan smelt]

AI just spams status usually

[rustic mountain]

the like 1 instance its useful with the ai doing that

[azure ether]

but yea it's miserable when only 1 AI is actually doing dmg and the others just use status

[rustic mountain]

just dont pick araquinid that mfer entrainments everything and then some

[cyan smelt]

Dedenne too

[rustic mountain]

or like have a path where the ai picks it is what i mean

[cyan smelt]

And maractus and pincurchin just spam acupressure

[azure ether]

and the random times when Groudon is smart with just using Max moves instead

[rustic mountain]

right lmfao

celesteela is a nightmare to face in dmax

oh electric or fire type? imma max quake u

still gta finish that 1 eventually

[fluid fiber]

I've lost 7 50/50s

From fiery dance boosts

[azure ether]

by the time I probably get this Lando, he's out of meta

[fluid fiber]

I've gotten 0

[rustic mountain]

hope u get it soon

it should be good for atleast the next cppl months of reg g

[cyan smelt]

I forget lando's da Moveset, I think it's like bulldoze, rock slide and eq

[azure ether]

those but he only uses EQ once when he's desperate

still doesn't feel good to tank when compared to having Wide Guard

[cyan smelt]

Sneasel I've found is pretty good for it because of triple axel

[rustic mountain]

if u can get ice type damage for urself and a partner usually 2-3 turns u ko it and ur gucci if ur team isnt too susceptible to the spread damage usually thats enough to clear it before getting swept out

if u can get wide guard on a decent path tho then yea for sure

4x weakness legends are a godsend

[azure ether]

except Zygarde

[rustic mountain]

zygardes tough cuz u need ice type damage and wide guard

[cyan smelt]

Yveltal and xerneas are nightmares too

[rustic mountain]

otherwise ur just screwed 9/10

[rustic mountain]

yea those i gta go for eventually too. seems like wide guard will be a must unless u have like a full team of resistances

[molten oasis]

nah just crit it a lot ez

[cyan smelt]

I still shudder at those dark aura boosted snarls

[azure ether]

Xern gets neutered by Weezing, funnily enough

[molten oasis]

oo i NEED to get yveltal at some point

bacon bird

[rustic mountain]

both are great shinies

[cyan smelt]

I used wigglytuff for yveltal, resists the dark moves and punishes the snarls

[rustic mountain]

makes sense

[molten oasis]

i think i would have played or at least tried playing yvetal in this gen if it was here

but idk if it would have been any good

[cyan smelt]

Yveltal is gonna struggle with miraidon now

[azure ether]

would've helped against CSR like in SwSh definitely

[molten oasis]

yea but that was always gonna be the case

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 717: Yveltal

Types

Dark/Flying

Abilities

Dark Aura

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

126/131/95/131/98/99

Total

680

Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

i mean hes pretty fucking bulky

like not for Mirai but for other mons

[azure ether]

didn't Yveltal usually run AV?

[molten oasis]

idk

[cyan smelt]

Yep I think so

I'm shuddering about xerneas flutter in future games

[molten oasis]

Yeaaaa, that’ll be annoying

But also CHI YU YVETAL

[azure ether]

will it still be as scary without tera?

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/boom-bomb-explosion-iron-man-tony-stark-gif-15429820

[rustic mountain]

eh itd be ok

xerneas tho, oh god

[molten oasis]

I think it would hard struggle with CIR

because of tera

[azure ether]

like it would be lame if one mon is forever unplayable just because of the presence of another

[molten oasis]

That would have been a nightmare

[azure ether]

might as well delete Xerneas and Yveltal altogether

[cyan smelt]

Koraidon might struggle without tera

[molten oasis]

Will

Struggle without Tera

Fighting dragon is a terrible defensive typing

Maybe not terrible but it’s not very good

[rustic mountain]

koraidon and terapagos are gna suck going forward

[molten oasis]

Flutter would be its #1 enemy

Oh poor Pagos

[azure ether]

just rebalance Fairy and we good imo

[molten oasis]

Pagos isn’t even that good right now

[rustic mountain]

its been around atleast but yea

[cyan smelt]

Ogerpon will suck too if they don't have the masks as available items in future games

[molten oasis]

I think it’s alright but people are just opting for horses and Mirai

Which is valid they’re broken

[rustic mountain]

koraidon miraidon, horses, kyogre, zama

[molten oasis]

Ogerpon I think will be okay

[rustic mountain]

all better options then pagos imo atm

[molten oasis]

I agree

id argue Zac but that’s just bias lol

[rustic mountain]

idk if id go that far

[molten oasis]

Ogerpon is a good redirection Mon

[rustic mountain]

im currently using wellspring its been solid actually

[molten oasis]

I think ogerpon is a good Mon without Tera but Tera makes it a lot better

I will miss Tera fire ivy cudgel being capable of OHKOING almost anything

[azure ether]

it also means we'll never see mega Ogerpon

[molten oasis]

I don’t want to see any new megas but we’ll get some

[rustic mountain]

right cuz that was definitely a possibility at any point

[azure ether]

unless the masks somehow work like mega stones

[cyan smelt]

Dynamax z-move mega gmax wildfire

[molten oasis]

I’m wonder if they will commit to mega incin as a joke

[rustic mountain]

ull get them and ull like them

[azure ether]

I mean with Champions, who knows

[molten oasis]

Will I?

WAIT MEGA MAWILE nvm its fine i got mini zacian

Oo, mega mawile Fari Ursa sounds fun

[rustic mountain]

champions doesnt mean they r just gonna throw things out the window tho. like suddenly ogerpon doesnt need masks to change forms?

[molten oasis]

That would be nuts

[rustic mountain]

prolly not, megas are kinda mid to me personally for the most part

[molten oasis]

With megas it’ll be fine I just know it’s a very restrictive set of formats

And I like more open formats

[rustic mountain]

drago trynna make some obscure mega work in a meta of mega gengars and kangaskhans:

[molten oasis]

I’d be using mega mawile which I think was good

[rustic mountain]

i think it was ok

for like 2 seconds

[molten oasis]

It was a tr guy I think

[cyan smelt]

Mega beedrill

[molten oasis]

No lmao

Doesn’t he have 40’s in both defenses

[azure ether]

gets Sucker Punched

[rustic mountain]

prolly less

[cyan smelt]

It's a literal glass cannon

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 15: Beedrill-Mega

Types

Bug/Poison

Abilities

Adaptability

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

65/150/40/15/80/145

Total

495

Base Species

Beedrill

Sableye version 4.28.1

[rustic mountain]

problem is u cant even run like sash

[molten oasis]

One sucker punch

https://tenor.com/view/do-you-have-any-ibuprofen-i-have-a-headache-meme-ibuprofen-meme-anime-girl-meme-mood-gif-17693332636758375379

[rustic mountain]

80 sp def thats something

[molten oasis]

Beedrill after sucker punch

[cyan smelt]

Beedrill after grassy glide

[rustic mountain]

incin fakes it out:

[molten oasis]

Eh it could eat grassy glide it 4x resists

Wood hammer probably not

Shifu aqua jet

[rustic mountain]

imagine a mon actually getting 1 shot from fake out

[azure ether]

Tera Normal Fake Out

[cyan smelt]

Was the thing that made mega kangaskhan so broken is that it could fake out, then mega and use two moves?

[molten oasis]

252+ Atk Mystic Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike Aqua Jet vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Beedrill: 91-108 (65 - 77.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO lmao

Man I sure hope this aqua jet doesn’t kill my beedrill

[cyan smelt]

Scrappy is already a great ability

[azure ether]

it could Fake Out twice so no need to wait a turn to mega

[molten oasis]

What other megas are there

[azure ether]

Salamence, Rayquaza

[cyan smelt]

Gengar, Alakazam, slowbro, Scizor, camerupt, altaria, ttar, gallade, gardevoir, sableye, banette

[molten oasis]

If I had to use one I’d probably go mega Zard Y or Mence

[cyan smelt]

Metagross

[molten oasis]

Mega Zard teams seem fun

[twin kindle]

Gallade gardevior for me

[molten oasis]

Or mawile

[azure ether]

Lucario too

[molten oasis]

Damn it has 210 physical attack (huge power)

Definitely a tr Mon

[cyan smelt]

Houndoom

[molten oasis]

So without any invest it be 250 attack lmfao

[cyan smelt]

Why do Mewtwo and zard get two Megas each

[rustic mountain]

252+ Atk Choice Band Incineroar Helping Hand Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Beedrill-Mega: 103-122 (73.5 - 87.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
https://media3.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExNWVrY3A2ejcxbGZrbG04cXV6YXJ3dWVnbXY3djRva2F1amNiaTRpZyZlcD12MV9pbnRlcm5hbF9naWZfYnlfaWQmY3Q9Zw/h7oTCmZBPQFPWT6x6j/giphy.gif

[molten oasis]

Zard is just, Zard man

[azure ether]

sales

[azure ether]

add tera Normal and Sword of Ruin

[cyan smelt]

Which one is the good zard one, it's y right the fire dragon one

[molten oasis]

You can’t

[azure ether]

Pao can't learn HH?

[molten oasis]

Y is the one with drought and kept it’s typing

[cyan smelt]

Oh X is better then?

[molten oasis]

No y is better

[cyan smelt]

Idk about Megas

[rustic mountain]

252+ Atk Choice Band Iron Hands Helping Hand Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Beedrill-Mega: 119-141 (85 - 100.7%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO

[molten oasis]

It sets sun that’s crazy good

WERE SO CLOSE

[rustic mountain]

cant have helping hand and sword of ruin

tera normal still wouldnt do it

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 727: Incineroar

Types

Fire/Dark

Abilities

Blaze, Intimidate (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/115/90/80/90/60

Total

530

Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

Try rillaboom

[azure ether]

why not if Beedrill is beside Pao

[molten oasis]

Rillaboom is 125 I think

[azure ether]

for some reason

[rustic mountain]

if hands isnt getting there no way rilla is

and hands kinda does get there, 6% of the time haha

[molten oasis]

Oh that was hands my bad

[rustic mountain]

ur good

[azure ether]

does that already include atk quark boost?

[rustic mountain]

yea i swapped to hands cuz originally thought something w/ more manageable atk could get there but yea nah

[rustic mountain]

252+ Atk Choice Band Quark Drive Iron Hands Helping Hand Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Beedrill-Mega: 154-182 (110 - 130%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Possible damage amounts: (154, 156, 158, 160, 161, 163, 165, 167, 169, 171, 172, 174, 176, 178, 180, 182)

if u can somehow set e terrain and then get ur iron hands on the field w/ something that can helping hand it sure u can there guaranteed

[azure ether]

it's like swatting a bee

[rustic mountain]

[cyan smelt]

Miraidon next to farig, volt switch into hands, then hh fake out

[rustic mountain]

yep

or u jus ko it w/ mirai t1

[molten oasis]

252+ Atk Choice Band Tera-Normal Iron Hands Helping Hand Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Tera-Fairy Flutter Mane: 144-169 (110.7 - 130%) -- guaranteed OHKO

It would kill beedrill I think

If you had Tera normal

[azure ether]

252+ Atk Choice Band Quark Drive Tera Normal Sword of Ruin Iron Hands Helping Hand Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Beedrill-Mega: 309-364 (220.7 - 260%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[rustic mountain]

oh yea tera normal hands sure i was saying that for incin

[azure ether]

beedrill dies twice iver

[molten oasis]

That’s impossible we were trying to find that within reason lol

How did you get quark drive helping hand and SOR

[azure ether]

I mean Pao doesn't have to be on Hands side

[rustic mountain]

how would u get sor and helping hand

i guess yea lmao

[azure ether]

Pao affects partner mons

[molten oasis]

Yea but beedrill would have had to come in the turn after

Oh ig if pao is on the field with Mirai and Mirai switches into beedrill it could work

[rustic mountain]

no like if its pao bedrill ur facing down

[molten oasis]

But quark drive

[rustic mountain]

oh yea for that case for sure

[azure ether]

Mirai Hands vs Pao Beedrill

[rustic mountain]

yea but then u dont have helping hand

[tiny karma]

Miraidon's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Body Slam, Crunch, Dragon Claw, Dragon Tail, Facade, Giga Impact, Heavy Slam, Outrage, Supercell Slam, Take Down, U-turn, Wild Charge, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Charge Beam, Dazzling Gleam, Discharge, Draco Meteor, Dragon Breath, Dragon Pulse, Electro Ball, Electro Drift, Flash Cannon, Hyper Beam, Mirror Coat, Overheat, Parabolic Charge, Power Gem, Shock Wave, Snarl, Solar Beam, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunder Shock, Thunderbolt, Volt Switch

Status Moves

Agility, Calm Mind, Charge, Confuse Ray, Dragon Cheer, Eerie Impulse, Electric Terrain, Endure, Helping Hand, Light Screen, Metal Sound, Protect, Reflect, Rest, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Swords Dance, Taunt, Thunder Wave

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Miraidon.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[azure ether]

Mirai HH

[molten oasis]

Why does Mirai get that

[azure ether]

why not

[rustic mountain]

oh lmao

ok in that case sure

[azure ether]

Mirai has hands

[molten oasis]

This is one of the dumbest hypotheticals I’ve been involved in

[rustic mountain]

so does stonjourner and it doesnt get helping hand

[azure ether]

no thumbs

[rustic mountain]

idt mirai does either

[azure ether]

it has claws?

[rustic mountain]

the whole point of this was never serious

[molten oasis]

It might be THE dumbest hypthetical lol

[cyan smelt]

I gotta watch out for stonjourner imprison because it imprisons zamas wide guard and body press

[molten oasis]

I know I’m just saying

[azure ether]

at least you can sleep knowing Fake Out can OHKO something

[rustic mountain]

who tf is running that

[cyan smelt]

No idea but I've seen stonjourner before

[rustic mountain]

i found it amusing doing calcs to see if beedrill gets kod to fake out

[molten oasis]

he is clearly

[rustic mountain]

[cyan smelt]

I'm not running that

[rustic mountain]

stonjourner is based

u have to understand it on a subatomic level

[spiral ridge]

What we doing now

[azure ether]

it's the closest we'll get to an in-game representation of swatting a mosquito

[rustic mountain]

doing calcs to see if mega beedrill can get ko'd by fake out

[spiral ridge]

Please tell me it can

[rustic mountain]

yes

[spiral ridge]

Perfection

[cyan smelt]

Because I jokingly suggested to drago to run mega beedrill

[azure ether]

Beedrill dies 2 times over

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 15: Beedrill-Mega

Types

Bug/Poison

Abilities

Adaptability

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

65/150/40/15/80/145

Total

495

Base Species

Beedrill

Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

its so funny

[spiral ridge]

65/40 lmfao

[azure ether]

252+ Atk Choice Band Quark Drive Tera Normal Sword of Ruin Iron Hands Helping Hand Fake Out vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Beedrill-Mega: 309-364 (220.7 - 260%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[forest arrow]

Just Tera ghost bro

[spiral ridge]

I can see how if you keep it minimum bulk you can do it

[molten oasis]

shut up lmao

[rustic mountain]

i feel like ur face is like this as u typed that:

[spiral ridge]

Yeah and take this sucker punch :D

[azure ether]

megas can't tera

[molten oasis]

[azure ether]

or can they

[molten oasis]

but what if they could

[spiral ridge]

260%😭

[azure ether]

gg go next, I guess

[rustic mountain]

y would u run bulk on beedrill

[spiral ridge]

I just meant it’s base bulk it definitely could die to one

If you made it 252/252 hp def it could maybe live it

[forest arrow]

From Khanga?

[rustic mountain]

if u 252/252 hp def its def living but like then ur running not only mega beedrill but the worst version of it possible

[azure ether]

nope sorry

252+ Atk Choice Band Quark Drive Tera Normal Sword of Ruin Iron Hands Helping Hand Fake Out vs. 252 HP / 252 Def Beedrill-Mega: 202-238 (117.4 - 138.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[spiral ridge]

At least it lived a fake o-
Oh

[forest arrow]

Oh shit iron hands

[rustic mountain]

lmao

oh well

[spiral ridge]

Iron hands the fly swatter

[forest arrow]

That’s funny lol

[rustic mountain]

did u confer that title on ur iron hands?

[azure ether]

not even a def+ nature can save it

[spiral ridge]

Dude I totally should

[rustic mountain]

haha

[spiral ridge]

I have an annihilape named pancreas puncher

[molten oasis]

thats awesome lmao

[spiral ridge]

Long story short was supposed to be a gift for someone with pancreatitis 😭

[rustic mountain]

i meant like the title on the mon it asks if u wanna confer it in game

whether u get it from mball or like its naturally on the mon

[spiral ridge]

Ohhh titles

[rustic mountain]

yes i said titles

[azure ether]

ngl Beedrill dying to Fake Out paints a funny mental image in my head

[spiral ridge]

Yeah you can get the title it’s 1/1000 for every bug type you kill

[rustic mountain]

i think u got more of a kick out of it then i did

[spiral ridge]

I thought you meant nickname it but calling it a title like it was honorably called fly seatter 😭

[rustic mountain]

nah i was making a joke of that being a possible title for it

[spiral ridge]

That would be awesome

I want a title of like

__ the sick of this

Some shit like that

[rustic mountain]

chikorita the sick of this

[molten oasis]

lmao

[spiral ridge]

Exactly

Or like

Mimikyu the burnout

[rustic mountain]

what about like
_ the what the fuck is going on

[spiral ridge]

Give that to a Mon with unaware

[rustic mountain]

slowbro the what the fuck is going on

[spiral ridge]

yes

[rustic mountain]

it has oblivous but yea

if u go off vibes

some mons dont seem that unaware

[spiral ridge]

__ the tired of their trainer

[rustic mountain]

like skeledirge, he doesnt strike me as that unaware

[twin kindle]

Have y seen fuecoco

Buddy has no thoughts behind those eyes

[rustic mountain]

that makes sense for sure but skeledirge not really

[spiral ridge]

Same he all serious

[rustic mountain]

mons change abilities all the time wen they evolve

[spiral ridge]

I love fuecoco I nicknamed my the derpster then he got all edgyy

IMAGINE A TITLE OF THE IDIOT

sprigatito the jackass

[rustic mountain]

also like this is just ability vibe check. like u see scrafty pull up ur intimidated?

come on lets be serious

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 560: Scrafty

Types

Dark/Fighting

Abilities

Shed Skin, Moxie, Intimidate (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

65/90/115/45/115/58

Total

488

Sableye version 4.28.1

[spiral ridge]

To be fair his whole design is tryna look tough

Like he’s a kid who is tryna appear cool to others

[rustic mountain]

yea but its just a facade im not intimidated by that

[spiral ridge]

That’s the vibe I always got from him

[spiral ridge]

Well good thing you aren’t his opponent

[rustic mountain]

[spiral ridge]

Mr. Inner focus

[rustic mountain]

no but like gyrados, incin, lando ,arcanine those are all vibe wise intimidating

scrafty its like most mons are bigger then it and looking down at it and they are scared? theres some strings being pulled for sure

[spiral ridge]

Yeah the strings holding up its pants while it money spreads on you

[rustic mountain]

[spiral ridge]

Hate all you want that -1 is coming

:3

[rustic mountain]

clearly big scrafty is paying u to spread this propaganda

[spiral ridge]

I love scrafty I think they’re a cutie

He’s always been a mon I vibes with

[rustic mountain]

exactly u jus admitted its not intimidating

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/scraggy-gif-10636033

Also I like their evo

[rustic mountain]

its a cool mon i like it

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/scrafty-golpe-ataque-pokemon-batalla-pokemon-gif-14795614

[rustic mountain]

we jus shouldnt be lying about the reality

[spiral ridge]

Girl idk how to tell you this

Pokémon isn’t reality

:3

[rustic mountain]

[azure ether]

until gen 69 where we go VR

[spiral ridge]

I think arcanine is a cutie too

Gyrados is ugly sorry dear

[rustic mountain]

i could see it coming across as intimidating to other mons

even if i myself find it more majestic then intimidating

[rustic mountain]

[tiny karma]

Filters

• Has the ability Intimidate

Results (46)

Ekans, Arbok, Growlithe, Growlithe-Hisui, Arcanine, Arcanine-Hisui, Tauros, Tauros-Paldea-Combat, Tauros-Paldea-Blaze, Tauros-Paldea-Aqua, Gyarados, Snubbull, Granbull, Qwilfish, Qwilfish-Hisui, Stantler, Hitmontop, Mightyena, Masquerain, Mawile, Manectric-Mega, Salamence, Staravia, Staraptor, Shinx, Luxio, Luxray, Herdier, Stoutland, Sandile, Krokorok, Krookodile, Scraggy, Scrafty, Landorus-Therian, Litten, Torracat, Incineroar, Wyrdeer, Overqwil, Squawkabilly, Squawkabilly-Blue, Squawkabilly-Yellow, Squawkabilly-White, Maschiff, Mabosstiff

Generation

natdex

Transferred Pokémon

Included

Sableye version 4.28.1

[spiral ridge]

Big fluffy dog that deserves to frolick and set fire to fields gets used by police 😔

[rustic mountain]

im doin vibe checks not appearance checks

[spiral ridge]

OH YEAH SNUBULL LMAO

Sandile lmfao

[cyan smelt]

masquerain too

[rustic mountain]

yea see like

squawekabilly not intimidating at all

does not pass the vibe to ability check

[spiral ridge]

Nor does it have reason to try to act intimidating I think
Unless dex entry idk

[azure ether]

idk man, those pompadours are intimidating

it's like those biker gangs

[spiral ridge]

Scrafty def does try to act it there’s much bigger offenders lol

[strange fjord]

Those birds are in a gang

[rustic mountain]

yea but they are all in the same boat of not fitting the vibe

[strange fjord]

i think some forms of them are pokedex wise

[spiral ridge]

Nah if we’re talking mons that need intim due to their presence it’s this mon:

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-squirtle-cute-cool-gif-17959904

Straight aura I would be terrified

[rustic mountain]

tru

squirtle would pass the vibe

[strange fjord]

only sunglasses squirtle tho

[rustic mountain]

nah only the squirtle squad squirtles

glasses or not those guys are intimidating

[strange fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/squirtle-pokemon-gif-23882585

[rustic mountain]

they were running shit b4 ash came along

[spiral ridge]

Owned those routes

[rustic mountain]

honestly tho blastoise could loosely pass the vibe check if it got intimidate

[azure ether]

all it takes is see that special episode whereBlue's Squirtle bites the shit out of Red's Charmander

Pokemon Origins, iirc

[strange fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/squirtle-bites-charmander-squirtle-bite-squirtle-charmander-gets-bitten-charmander-bitten-gif-23247152

[rustic mountain]

oh wow

[spiral ridge]

I think outta the 3 genuinely zard blastoise ivy in that order

[rustic mountain]

yea

id agree w/ that

[spiral ridge]

Ivy is big and scary but like
It looks like a toad

It’s face is ugly

[rustic mountain]

i wouldnt be that scared of venusaur it wouldnt pass the vibe check

[spiral ridge]

It is genuinely a big mon

[rustic mountain]

zard definitely tho would pass

its big but its not intimidating

would u gna do put me to sleep? ok

[spiral ridge]

If an angry plant started coming at me and had that face on it
Actually nah I’m putting it over blastoise

https://tenor.com/view/venusaur-walks-around-roleplay-pokemon-rupyyz-gif-10696267903346912070

This bitch looks angry

I ain’t tryna fuck with a toad looking at me angrily as it approaches

[rustic mountain]

if i have to take a water cannon of that magnitude at point blank range im fearing for my safety, blastoise definitely more intimidating

[spiral ridge]

True it’s cannons..

Super soaker back duh

[strange fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/blastoise-pokemon-anime-pokemon-anime-pokemon-origins-gif-8514815277979256732

[spiral ridge]

All 3 are fairly intimidating they all got more chunky agressive designs

[strange fjord]

intimidating aura

[spiral ridge]

Yeah fair

[strange fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-gif-21696933

goofy aura

[rustic mountain]

other mons that dont pass the vibe check for intimidate-stantler and wyrdeer, granbull and snubull and staravia/starapter and masquerain

[spiral ridge]

Back to second I’ll take a vine whip

Yeah id only argue snubull cus that bitch always looks like it wants a fight

It’s a bully

[strange fjord]

Masquerain is supposed to be intimidating bc its wings are supposed to look likes eyes to wild pokemon

[rustic mountain]

snubull is like bark but no bite to me

[spiral ridge]

Bark is meant to intimidate

It do be a mental game

[rustic mountain]

yea but im facing it in a controlled battle enviornment and depending on what pokemon i am im not scared at all of that in the wild

[rustic mountain]

thats fair ok ill give it a pass on the vibe check

[spiral ridge]

Ima try to sleeep again my ass is only getting 4 hours now

Nighty night

[spiral ridge]

Legit same as like growl lol

[rustic mountain]

feel better

yea i feel that

[spiral ridge]

I’m almost to a week of feeling like this :) yippee

I’ll celebrate with a practice SAT test cus that’s always fun

[rustic mountain]

might not be the best time to practice

[spiral ridge]

I can’t wait for 3 weekends from now

[rustic mountain]

jus focus on getting better 1st

[spiral ridge]

Being made to on Saturday

[rustic mountain]

damn ight

[spiral ridge]

Cus 8th SAT, and driving test day before

[rustic mountain]

ahh gotcha

[spiral ridge]

So my weekends are boned for next two weeks

Gotta make 3 weeks (I won’t make it)

Alright sleep time take care lovelies

[rustic mountain]

y 3 weeks?

later

[spiral ridge]

This weekend is fucked and next
So 3 is next one that’s hopefully fine 😭

[rustic mountain]

oh i see

id just hope to get better first. everything else isnt as bad wen ur feeling more normal

[spiral ridge]

Yeah just sadly don’t have that privilege much with this all

If I did it would be a full week now and that’s lotta shit to kiss

I stayed home two days and that’s already been terrible

[rustic mountain]

oof yea thats rough

[cyan smelt]

how do i input Bo3s into pasrs? just individually? don't want to play bo3 ladder without doing it

[shadow wind]

I’m not sure if there’s a Bo3 setting but I personally would just input the individual games

[cyan smelt]

there's not but i think they added support for bo3 a while ago

[shadow wind]

Maybe if it sees your elo not changing from a game it’ll do some funky google sheets stuff and know it’s a Bo3

Might want to just test it and see

[cyan smelt]

i found where it talked about bo3, you upload the individual replays then review them in match by match

*game by game

[shadow wind]

Yeah I’d assume it still takes the stats the same

Although your games played might get screwy

[cyan smelt]

i might just make a fresh one then

from my bo1 pasrs looks like i struggle against ogre, miraidon and caly-s

[shadow wind]

I make a new google sheet for every team

Well the ones I use PASRS for anyway

I usually don’t use it at all

[cyan smelt]

it's helpful for me to see what i'm struggling with

[shadow wind]

Yeah that’s fair

[cyan smelt]

but idk what to do because kyogre, miraidon and caly-shadow are hard to stop

[shadow wind]

Sounds like you got a special attacker problem

[cyan smelt]

my team is mostly physical yeah

[shadow wind]

Have you got any special damage control?

Maybe a light screen or a snarl somewhere?

[cyan smelt]

no i don't

maybe i could run whimiscott with light screen and tw instead of torn but then i lose rain dance

[shadow wind]

What’s the team?

[cyan smelt]

https://pokepast.es/3322d626c0fac92b skeledirge is there for the dondozos and any mon that gets boosted by coaching

[shadow wind]

Yeah the rain does seem pretty necessary

[cyan smelt]

i could run snarl on skeledirge but idk if that defeats the purpose since it's unaware

[shadow wind]

Yeah it would be a bit counterproductive

[cyan smelt]

and then i sacrifice its other moves

maybe i could run a snarl mon in place of rilla and run ice spinner idk

[shadow wind]

Are you just utilizing wide guard poorly or how do they usually kill Zama?

[cyan smelt]

but then i have no fake out

usually they play around wide guard and i think i'm overplaying when i use wide guard poorly

it's been a while since i've played

they usually predict i'm gonna wide guard and then use single target

[shadow wind]

Ah ok

Yeah I’ve never really loved wide guard on Zama, especially on rain variants

I think it’s fine here but you just gotta be careful with it

I would say click it less often than you think

[cyan smelt]

i think a lot of my losses were down to me missplaying

[shadow wind]

And in OTS it’s a pressuring tool

[cyan smelt]

i know i can only use it like once or so before they wise up

[shadow wind]

Of course it’s pretty much a 50/50 unless they’re choiced but scouting what they did turn 1 or whenever never hurts

[cyan smelt]

i forget which order it's in, i can do protect wide guard but not wide guard protect right

[shadow wind]

Correct

Wide guard has no restriction but protect does

[cyan smelt]

my team seems more HO so i need to be clicking wide guard sparingly

[shadow wind]

Yeah, body press with SoR does so much damage it’s almost always a great option

[proven mortar]

Hey can I get some recommendations for a team I made? Im trying to decide the fifthh pokemon

[cyan smelt]

sure drop a pokepaste

is this for doubles?

[proven mortar]

yup!

https://pokepast.es/c4a5f130f0781095

The walking wake is kinda a placeholder for now not sure what to do for a legendary

[cyan smelt]

if you're going hard TR it's almost always lunala or calyrex ice rider

[shadow wind]

I would suggest Indeedee over Farigiraf with Hatterene

[cyan smelt]

dazzling gleam is much better on hatterene than draining kiss and calm mind is probably not good this format because you won't have a chance to set it up, heavy slam on hands

[shadow wind]

Has better synergy and also allows you to have an easier time into Miraidon

[proven mortar]

I will say farigiraf+iron hands and farigiraf+Magic bounce hatterenes been really good for me

[cyan smelt]

ursa bm should be tera normal to get rid of the ice and grass and water weakness

[proven mortar]

interesting

I already hadd dazzling gleam on hatterene in game forgot to update it LL

[cyan smelt]

you should probably use calyrex ice rider as your legend, or you could replace farig with indeedee and hatterene with lunala and go follow me tr, or you can use power herb meteor beam for fire types

[shadow wind]

I had a Lunala team with Hatterene and lowkey the Lunala got over shadowed, I would suggest CIR

[proven mortar]

issue is I dont have access to calyrex

Is there any alternative to CIR?

[opal trout]

No

[shadow wind]

If there was people would be running that instead

[cyan smelt]

unfortunately not

[opal trout]

You could trade for one

I guess

[cyan smelt]

they're hard to get because they're locked behind dlc + a quest + like 6 gym badges i think

[proven mortar]

I had calyrex ice in sword but the issue is I dont have the cartirdge and hes in my party so I cant transfer him 😭

[cyan smelt]

you should test on showdown before you make it on cart anyway so you can refine your team until you can maybe buy a 2nd hand copy or something?

[proven mortar]

Id rather scrap the entire team before spending more money lol Im a college student

[shadow wind]

And that’s why showdown is awesome

Doesn’t cost a penny

[cyan smelt]

you could run enamorous therian on your tr team too

[shadow wind]

Overcoat is very underrated

[cyan smelt]

amoonguss is everywhere

[opal trout]

You could also try some rental teams

https://victoryroad.pro/sv-rental-teams/
you can also use these teams for inspiration

[proven mortar]

Ive also thought about changing multiple pokemon out and making a trick room sun team

[cyan smelt]

conner you aren't this groudon guy running thunder punch groudon are you

[shadow wind]

Nah I dropped tpunch

What’s the account name?

https://pokepast.es/58192bccda3bf86c

[cyan smelt]

beard gorilla

[shadow wind]

I had this old hard TR team for Reg G

[cyan smelt]

oh i just remember you have an aversion to raging bolt right

[shadow wind]

This was until I needed to start winning 😔

He’s just the perfect counter for Tornshifu

It’s a painful truth

But at least I’m not running AV on him

[cyan smelt]

and then lando is the perfect counter to it

[shadow wind]

And that’s why we got Chien Pao baby

[cyan smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-perfectlybalanced-gif-18301221

[shadow wind]

Ice shard gaming

[cyan smelt]

idk i don't trust landos anymore because they're definitely gonna go tera water in front of my team

[shadow wind]

Then I protect and tclap, easy as pie

Of course this will work in game 1

Then will not for games 2 and 3

Case by case

[cyan smelt]

i have to say i like lando though

[shadow wind]

Lando is cool

Ground types are always cool

[cyan smelt]

one of like only two viable ground types

[shadow wind]

The bears and Lando

Groudon 😔

[real prairie]

Fucking hell peeps

Good morning

[cyan smelt]

i feel like i don't see the bears as much anymore

[opal trout]

I guess it’s the gc today

[shadow wind]

We’re just having a grand old time

[cyan smelt]

also Pokemon Presents

[shadow wind]

Except I’m about to hit the hay cause it’s 1:30 am

[proven mortar]

btw just realized

could kyogre archuludon fix my issue?

[shadow wind]

I gamed and gamed and even gamed some more

[real prairie]

Haha gone full circle, night mate

[shadow wind]

Pretty much

I’m happy I can play without a goal

I hate goals

“I wanna hit T500” or “I’m going for 1700 elo”

It’s all dumb

I just play when I want to and stop when I hit a milestone

I don’t play for the milestone

Play for the game

I’m now realizing I sound like the local crazy so I’m going to bed

[real prairie]

Haha what you said is sound

I'm similar, I don't have a target but I'll stop when I hit something recognisable

[real prairie]

GN mate

[solid frigate]

i rather use Raging Bolt+Kyogre than Archaludon cuz Archa is kinda mid in here

Its still workable but just harder

[native nova]

What would be the most hyperoffensive viable moveset for a garchomp

Also should I runn Jolly or Adamant nature on it

[real prairie]

This regulation garchomp struggles but in general this could work:

Garchomp @ Life Orb
Ability: Rough Skin
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature

• Protect
• Poison Jab
• Dragon Claw
• Earthquake

Time to start GC I guess lol

[opal trout]

I should probably start doing a few battles as well

[dense minnow]

is coballion/terrakion playable

[solid frigate]

Nope

But Iron Crown is

[solid frigate]

Short answer they are not good

[dense minnow]

😔 surely they'll get a mega in a-z

[next stump]

good morning

https://tenor.com/view/funtime-friyay-gif-119056556635329389

[solid frigate]

hey dillon

[opal trout]

I’ve come up against 2 Meowscarda today lol

[solid frigate]

whats with Cart loving niche atuff

[opal trout]

So far 3-0

I’m probably going to take a little break now

[real prairie]

8-3 so far in GC 🤣

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/hasbulla-hasbulla-magomedov-hello-hi-hasbulla-hi-gif-16517238265127501476

[real prairie]

Early doors but...

[opal trout]

Nice!

[real prairie]

Very considering I handicapped myself 🤣

Shinies finally going to shiny!!!

[left bobcat]

Well damn I’ve officially reached unc status

I’m 20 I’m an old geezer

[real prairie]

Happy birthday

If it helps, I'm 30 🤣

[left bobcat]

Yeah yeah I’m old

[real prairie]

I just faced the most global challenge team I've ever seen...

@astral kelp would have been proud of it.

Fling weakness policy sneasler, baton pass farig into life orb Miraidon

[charred saddle]

first game of GC and its a dark tera raging bolt

i almost got fucked up by that shit

[astral kelp]

LOOOOL

replay?

[real prairie]

Afraid not as it's ok cart

[astral kelp]

wait wait they are FLINGING THE WEAKNESS POLICY?

[real prairie]

Because it activated on impact

[charred saddle]

astral gets 40%, kills one to get +1
but then it suddenly dark tera snarled

[real prairie]

And activates sneasler unburden

[astral kelp]

it it

aint on the lsit

[astral kelp]

wdym??

[real prairie]

Trust me I just watched it with my eyes

It activates on impact as long as the attack is infact super effective

[astral kelp]

so if sneazler hits something for super effective damaghe it gets weakness policy???

[real prairie]

Yep

[astral kelp]

THATS FUCKING CRAZY

[real prairie]

With fling

[astral kelp]

HELLO??

i must play this right now

[left bobcat]

Yes?

[astral kelp]

does sneazler get it or does the target?

[real prairie]

The target

[astral kelp]

icicic

[real prairie]

So farig got the boost then baton passed out

[astral kelp]

10000 iq

did he win?

[left bobcat]

Yeah

Bro got folded

[real prairie]

No lol

Perks of scarf Kyogre is I'm still faster

[astral kelp]

bahahahaa

i wonder what happens if you fling blunder policy

i wish showdown had like a training mode where you can try stuff against dummies

wait i can just fight myself

[real prairie]

Nothing, because it won't miss

Just does damage

Erm.....

I feel that's a pretty good day 1...

[left bobcat]

But I’m faster

[left bobcat]

Silly goose I’m flack0

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/silly-goose-silly-goose-moment-gif-24528309

[next stump]

let’s goooo

should be top 512 locked for sure

[real prairie]

Lose all my games day 2 and 3 confirmed 🤣

[next stump]

fucking finally data to back up my point

CIR 47% winrate into CSR at EUIC

the matchup is an uphill battle

[chrome knot]

yes

[charred saddle]

why the fuck is everyone and their mother doing dark tera

[real prairie]

I'd assume to protect against prankster taunt

[real prairie]

Ooof

[charred saddle]

only saw wideguard and EQ

i think one of the most surprising one is the dark tera raging bolt like damn

[real prairie]

That one I don't understand

Unless it's to take less damage from CSR

[charred saddle]

also for the snarl

but like fucking hell

[real prairie]

Was about to say that

[dusty gate]

Dark tera looks cool.

[astral kelp]

bro is shocklingly slkow for someone with max speed and +1 speed

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2309618950

thanks for the idea @real prairie

[gentle crag]

k4x1 has given 1 Gen Rep to oneofakindof

[real prairie]

Haha thank the guy trying it in GC

I just let Ludicolo slap them around

[solid frigate]

Prankster and CSR but like wow they really live Tera Dark

[astral kelp]

what the fuck is this im scared

[trim hound]

Someone coping that Lugia is good

[astral kelp]

bro that fucking

sleep powder tailwind

ist actually so good

[real prairie]

I locked a Lugia team into encores in my final day 1 game of GC 🤣 they quit straight away haha

[charred saddle]

pog top 500

4-0

and now im gonna lose after this

[mighty stump]

Oh theres yet another GC

[charred saddle]

yes

u wanna see my abomination team tofu?

[left bobcat]

What the hell is that

[charred saddle]

i mean its not like bad bad

[left bobcat]

Looks like shit

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2309625448

omg mewtwo my goat
also he has like no concept of personal space

bros a bit close there

[real prairie]

They know about expanding force but tried to fake out twice in psychic terrain

These battles hurt my brain

[astral kelp]

ikr

braincells

[chrome knot]

unfortunately

[astral kelp]

what gets me is that he did it once then it says likie
"failed due to psychic terrain"

https://tenor.com/view/goofy-trial-crazy-evil-ill-fucking-do-it-again-gif-17111514

[mighty stump]

Yet another GC i am not participating in

-ᴗ-

[chrome knot]

SAME

[astral kelp]

not bro waiting the full entire time for thinking and then fake out into psychic terrain again LMAO

HE DID IT AGAIBN

[solid frigate]

same

[astral kelp]

now he leaves without forfeiting \

[real prairie]

🤷🏼

[dusty gate]

P sure they're just trying to waste your time icl.

[real prairie]

Lovely weekend with the Mrs instead?

[astral kelp]

https://pokepast.es/ebc20350721aeacf

this teams so fun

[solid frigate]

the amount of Stuff here is so wrong-

[astral kelp]

lol yea its so dumb

3 psychic types

[solid frigate]

im not gonna question it cuz you would just try even more dumb things

[astral kelp]

how would you make this concept lol

[trim hound]

I'd play Psy Terrain CSR instead

Because unfortunately Mewtwo is just shitty CSR

[solid frigate]

Yeah-

even then Psyspam CSR usually weak to Dark anyway cuz they either Get Greedy on CM or NP

Or just something else

[trim hound]

Until Champions comes out and gives us back Mega Mewtwo X & Y Mewtwo will just shit the bed

[solid frigate]

its still bad cuz CSR in here can still Tera

meaning Mega Mewtwo can’t do Jackshit

[astral kelp]

Lol I could've definitevly gone for Csr but I thought Mewtwo is funnier

Wait actually why am I going Mewtwo wtf

[solid frigate]

bro can’t even OHKO Roaring Moon with Ice Beam or Aura Sphere that how bad it is

[astral kelp]

It's not when that much funnier

[charred saddle]

yippee

[mighty stump]

Coreect we got our tattoos together

[charred saddle]

HAHAHA

[opal trout]

They can’t read

[left bobcat]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2309669772-jxpuaqk5e9tv3wdgyk0utq5l6ltkqoopw

[real prairie]

Scarf Groudon gaming?

[solid frigate]

i would just ragequit lmao

[spiral ridge]

Jesus

Did they false swipe you??

This popping up as a recommended sticker while I typed genuinely scared me

[charred saddle]

itsminh

uhh superfang maushold, metoer beam caly --> 1 hp

and then dazzlinggleam +1 onvaliant

[spiral ridge]

Oh I see

[real prairie]

Mmmmhhhh

This has fried my brain

[solid frigate]

vinegar chips mid

[real prairie]

Vinegar Doritos though is mad

[solid frigate]

its kinda mid,i tried it

[craggy dagger]

vinegar wha-??

[real prairie]

@craggy dagger

[craggy dagger]

i-
huh…

that’s an interesting flavour for it being doritos

[real prairie]

My thoughts exactly

[craggy dagger]

was it good?

[left bobcat]

Yeah

I like eruption

[left bobcat]

Ugh like go shower

[craggy dagger]

??,

[bold geode]

Hai bestie

[craggy dagger]

haiii bestieeee

[bold geode]

How doing

[craggy dagger]

oh oh
i should share this abomination i made

[craggy dagger]

its been alright-
getting adjusted to being chronically online again

[bold geode]

I see

[real prairie]

No one else wants to bite I will, what's the build

[craggy dagger]

https://pokepast.es/c38cde02d1c5e041
its

something

[real prairie]

Interesting

The return of Lando-I

Why tera fire?

[shadow wind]

Ice resist

[opal trout]

And an immunity to will o wisp

[real prairie]

Very good

My mind immediately went to retaining the water weakness

[craggy dagger]

uhhhh

yeah
what the other people said

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/christianbale-uh-americanpsycho-nod-agreed-gif-9105144771222081620

[mint void]

@craggy dagger

u might want to reconsider the attack investment

[spiral ridge]

I loved vinegar chips as a kid in England :(

They aren’t over here really

[chrome knot]

hai stimky

[real prairie]

Feel like it was probably designed for draining kiss lol

[polar canyon]

If syrup bomb could heal when targeting allies like pollen puff but kept the speed lowering effect would you guys use hydrapple

I feel like that could be at the very least interesting for trick room gimmicks

[charred saddle]

ye ofc

imagine that + TR sweepers that arent that slow

or threatened by amoonguss presence

[polar canyon]

That would be a fun buff to hydrapple

Hydrapple dusk mane would be real

[real prairie]

Would be lethal for tailroom teams as a mean to slow yourself down

[craggy dagger]

I REALIZED

[craggy dagger]

you ready for vancouver

[left bobcat]

I’m ready for the wings

[molten oasis]

I’d also like to see its ability get a buff

[solid frigate]

Nova why-

[main pendant]

Is there any specific reason why you would want a physical attacker to have 0 IV in SpA? I know that for special attacker, having 0 IVs in attack is optimal to reduce the self inflicted damage from confusion which is based on physical damage. But is there some niche reasoning similar to this for physical attacker?

[trim hound]

No

[charred saddle]

uhh prob for like niche weakness policy proc

thats the only thing that came to my mind

[trim hound]

Weakness Policy is generally proc'd by physical attacks though

[main pendant]

Ya that's right. Thanks to you both!

[craggy dagger]

um

[charred saddle]

[craggy dagger]

you didn’t point that out yesterday

[craggy dagger]

[solid frigate]

i forgot i am tired asf

[next stump]

https://x.com/DaWoblefet/status/1651044875004002306

Leonard Craft III (@DaWoblefet) on X

You might think it's always optimal to give physical attackers that use Tera Blast 31 Sp. Atk IVs, just in case they get Intimidated below what their Sp. Atk stat is to maximize damage. But sometimes, like with Chien-Pao, it can be better to run a specific amount of Sp. Atk IVs!

X · Apr 26, 2023, 2:05 AM

very very very niche interaction

[craggy dagger]

ouhhh
that’s a cool thing

[molten oasis]

Neat

[charred saddle]

[solid frigate]

that could be very interesting

If only i use Tera Blast on my mons

[charred saddle]

mom mom im currently 285 in GC

[solid frigate]

kewl

i am not planning to do any GC stufff

[chrome knot]

yeah, going to toronto on sunday just to essentially proofread my team