competitive_discussion

[solid frigate]

Ye

[calm gulch]

you’re not even ready for umbreon

[solid frigate]

Taunts

[rustic mountain]

i think itll be more like a battle simulator but im not sure if its more stadium type or like legit vgc

if its a revamped stadium, showdown might have some competition

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-shield-pokemon-plush-plush-plushie-gif-22905345

[bold geode]

Yeah for sure

But like depending on how this goes, this could be what people in the VGC community really wanted

[rustic mountain]

yea itd be a long time coming

looks interesting either way but id def prefer some kind of competitive backing

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 1004: Chi-Yu

Types

Dark/Fire

Abilities

Beads of Ruin

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

55/80/80/135/120/100

Total

570

Sableye version 4.28.1

Pokémon No. 145: Zapdos-Galar

Types

Fighting/Flying

Abilities

Defiant

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/125/90/85/90/100

Total

580

Base Species

Zapdos

Sableye version 4.28.1

[solid frigate]

if Champions have Showdown Levels of Teambuilding then its kinda have competition with Showdown

[bold geode]

Oh for sure
I'd actually like the possibility of seeing it in the official circuit

Idk
Megas + tera would probably spice some shit up
Gimme mega Rayquaza

[rustic mountain]

if u can just port teams and specify evs and shit, it literally is just a better sd imo. obviously theres more nuance to it but id prolly be playing that more just based on the interface

[solid frigate]

is it gonna be just Gen 3 Weather Trio +Calyrex,Miraidon and Xerneas-

[bold geode]

Also it being on Switch and mobile
I wonder if it'll be like
Able to link in some way

[rustic mountain]

they said u can transfer mons in so idk if that means u need to have the mon already but yea

[rustic mountain]

should just be universal connectivity amongst devices idk if thats wat ur saying

[bold geode]

Basically yeah
Just being able to access your shit from Switch and mobile

[rustic mountain]

jus depends wat u wanna play on

[bold geode]

Yeah but what if like I wanna play it on mobile in one instance and then on my Switch at home

[rustic mountain]

i dont wanna get my expectations too high but im a bit more hyped for champions based on the implications than lza

[solid frigate]

Mega and Tera

Its just Natdex at this point

[bold geode]

Oh either way Champions is something good in some way

[rustic mountain]

i think so but ya know, gamefreak

[bold geode]

I mean at worst it's just another installment of Pokemon Stadium

[chrome knot]

treetreetreetreetreetree

[rustic mountain]

tru

[chrome knot]

[bold geode]

Which imo ain't that bad either

[rustic mountain]

[chrome knot]

[rustic mountain]

nah thats tru id be happy w/ that

[bold geode]

It's either a win or a huge win in my book

[rustic mountain]

[solid frigate]

at least Wolfey does not need to be afraid of Mega incin

[bold geode]

Just depends on the features itself

[bold geode]

Make Mega Feraligatr Water/Dragon or Water/Dark

Actually
Wtf would they do with Meganium is my question LMAO

[solid frigate]

Honestly i would like to see It keeps Sheer Force

[bold geode]

Tf are you planning Game Freak
Tf are you cooking

[timber falcon]

ive been seeing a certain game plan that involves scarf kyogre and wheezing

any ideas on how to make them stop

[bold geode]

In fact, if they do happen to get megas then all of the choices are interesting

[bold geode]

Literally just what you'd do with any restricted + Weezing team

[timber falcon]

i tried outspeed and failed, tried priority, ofc they had it covered

[foggy lodge]

The team from worlds?

It's a very annoying team

[rustic mountain]

yet

[rustic mountain]

i feel like i only really see csr weezing teams

otherwise its kinda meh

[foggy lodge]

I'm playing that

Sash CSR and lorb pao

It goes hard

[rustic mountain]

its a tough team to play against

[mint void]

https://x.com/pokemon/status/1895122166842323246?s=46&t=JRmZV3GvEvNJn0fgU81mEg

Pokémon (@Pokemon) on X

Get ready to experience everything you love about Pokémon battles all in one place—in #PokemonChampions!

Stay tuned for more information about this battle-focused title with familiar mechanics, cross-platform battles, and more!

X · Feb 27, 2025, 2:41 PM

"in development"

C U in a few years

[rustic mountain]

haha

prolly sometime next year is my guess

[mint void]

Oh MY FUCKING GOD

Tepig

[rustic mountain]

yes

[mint void]

Starter in ZA

[rustic mountain]

tofu will be happy

[mint void]

I have hipe for my boy

PLEASE GET A GOOD MEGA

Bro u have no idea how happy that made me

[rustic mountain]

idk theyll get megas, id assume we get alternate evolutions like in pla

[mint void]

Probs

Idc anything good for my child

[rustic mountain]

nice dude

[mint void]

Black and White were my first games. Tepig all the way

[rustic mountain]

i chose snivy but tepigs cool

[mint void]

A few days ago I was like: "I hope Tepig is in ZA"

[rustic mountain]

haha now u got ur answer

[mint void]

+chikorita love

Also cool

[rustic mountain]

i hope their alternate evos are competively more viable

[mint void]

Yeah thats my hope

All they uave to do for Tepig is akr away his fucking SpA

And put that shit in bulk or sum

[mint void]

Tbf thi not getting Megas for the starters would suck

[rustic mountain]

plz no more fire/ghost starters

[mint void]

Wha?

[rustic mountain]

u might be right cuz megas is the theming but idk i just would prefer alternate evos as its more permanent and keeping with the prior legends game

[rustic mountain]

hisuan typhlosion and skeledirge were both fire/ghost starters

[mint void]

Oh ok yeah in recent games it was a lil common

[rustic mountain]

yea just a joke about that

kinda like how we got fire/fighting like 3 games in a row

[mint void]

They really aint that creative

The new battle style has potential

[chrome knot]

it'll prob be what we use past sv format

[patent marsh]

fire ground makes more sense for emboar regional

[mint void]

Eh Idk ngl

I dont see Ground as a type fot that "region"

[patent marsh]

it's more a logical pick anyways cause pig, fire fairy pig would be funny

[real prairie]

I then proceeded to fall asleep at my desk and miss a bunch of messages from my project lead about the bid im working on....

All caught up now but fucking hell what a mental day its been 😅

https://tenor.com/view/rowlet-sleeping-dozing-off-resting-napping-gif-24065570

Off work tomorrow and GC is live, LEGO

[trim hound]

At least Fire/Ghost is good

[mint void]

Chiko already gets fairy

[next stump]

I’m really really hoping that Champions allows you to generate pokemon

I think it does based off the fine print

[mint void]

@next stump nah i dont think like why make a connection to home possible then?

[next stump]

You can only deposit into the game

You can’t take out

[mint void]

It would be great sinc rit would oprn up VGC gor a lot more peolle

[real prairie]

based on that they said, you should be able to team build with any mon as long as you have them registed on the home dex

they have intentionally used the word "Connect" for a reason

[mint void]

If I got it tight it will just be that u can use mons on champions that you have in Home/Other games

If u can fit EVs and IVs as u wish that be cool

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/kururin-kuru-kuru-herta-herta-sippining-honkai-star-rail-gif-6255874111095877274

[real prairie]

My son has just sat down to watch Pokemon Presents after he finished school (and his homework).

He said he wants to play Champions to battle like me 🥰

think that also shows how this is going to make VGC more accessible to casuals, comp pokemon about to blow the fuck up

[next stump]

it’s so exciting

they gotta bump up regional space

[real prairie]

they will end up having separate regionals soon would be my guess, venues will struggle to manage the sheer volume of people for VGC, TCG and other games

[chrome knot]

i THINK i have the vanc call

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2309138763-17or2yss3b7hjbc7or6cuw4yo6dvoe6pw

[chrome knot]

why not just protect amoonguss

never in harm, you always kill ursh this turn & you dodge a very obvious taunt coming ur way

[solid frigate]

i have no protect

[real prairie]

Old school Amoongus set

[chrome knot]

whatda

[solid frigate]

yep

i'm not cooking

[chrome knot]

[real prairie]

Spore, rage powder, pollen puff, sludge bomb
?

[chrome knot]

clear smog…

[real prairie]

Oof, so not even a real offensive option

[solid frigate]

dozo ptsd

But i woul change back to protect

[chrome knot]

dozo mu but like

idk

my dozo mu rn is avoidance

[real prairie]

Mine is fake out spam and hope it's stupid enough to protect so I can encore it

[foggy lodge]

Mine is uh

Oh I have geezing ofc

Get stuck there Tatsugiri

[real prairie]

Lool

[foggy lodge]

I haven't fought the CSR Dozogiri Geezing variant

The Pagos Dozogiri yes but CSR no

Idk how to win that

[spiral ridge]

Is

Is dozogiri around rn??

[solid frigate]

welp here we go

i found a mewtwo in ladder

[craggy dagger]

what’s on the team-
gimme-
i need to expand my niche data bank

[spiral ridge]

Man I remember on my original XY save as a kid I failed catching mewtwo and didn’t know what save scumming was 😭

I was distraught

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2309149127-h3bv417qre8k4kcnes5lkpjvs2y01q8pw

[spiral ridge]

Fairly normal team

Was Lowkey expecting a “my 6 fave mons” team

[craggy dagger]

that looks quite normal-

[solid frigate]

still don

know what is going with it but ok

[chrome knot]

kind of also not rly

[chrome knot]

stimky

[craggy dagger]

???

excuse you

[spiral ridge]

Good I don’t wanna see that things

[solid frigate]

wish i can go back to Miraidon but like

The Meta is really against it

[spiral ridge]

That poor turtle tried so hard to be significant

[chrome knot]

yeaahhh

[solid frigate]

Lando moment

Truly a Lando Moment

[spiral ridge]

:)

I’m finally using a lando team and my god
I like em more than torn

[solid frigate]

i want to name him Boba fett cuz Mando Lando

[spiral ridge]

I used to be a torn over lando fan but now idfk

[craggy dagger]

cool

196+ Atk Life Orb Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 196+ Def Suicune: 133-157 (64.2 - 75.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[solid frigate]

Nova what are you doing-

put down the knife

[craggy dagger]

i have no idea what the life orb miraidon set is 😭

[spiral ridge]

SHIT THATS RIFHT I GOTTA GET FARIG REASY

[craggy dagger]

KORAIDON

wrong one-

[spiral ridge]

getting farig built soon as I get home while I make dinner

[solid frigate]

literally CA but Lorb

and Close Combat

[spiral ridge]

I have 4 hours til sign up ends how did I almost forget

[craggy dagger]

what’s the EV Spread tho

[spiral ridge]

[craggy dagger]

also it does worse than i thought.
hm

196+ Atk Life Orb Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Close Combat vs. 164 HP / 196+ Def Suicune: 133-157 (67.8 - 80.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[solid frigate]

idk at this point

I think speed is Max timid

[craggy dagger]

timid koraidon-

[solid frigate]

jolly shit-

[craggy dagger]

Morris are you okay

[chrome knot]

-Atk +Spe

[solid frigate]

Casto Relic Grind got me braindead

[spiral ridge]

Koraidon wants minimum attack ofc

[craggy dagger]

you’re pulling tribbie and mydei then?

[spiral ridge]

[solid frigate]

ummmmm....

UMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[craggy dagger]

cuz castorice is basically unusable without them

[chrome knot]

garic bread

[craggy dagger]

i’m prolly just gonna pull for collections sake

[spiral ridge]

Gary

[solid frigate]

then why i saw most showcases being

Casto,RMC,Buffer or Debuffer,Gallagher/Luocha

[craggy dagger]

oh-
from what i’ve heard it’s tribbie and mydei that’s needed

if that’s the case then why tf are people yelling at me that casto is gonna ruin my account

[solid frigate]

just RMC and Bronya for me

maybe RM if i got her from rerun

[craggy dagger]

-# i can finally put that E1 luocha to use even tho casto scales off hp

[solid frigate]

or SW if i want to do Half Quantum

[solid frigate]

i mean Casto is basically

Better Jingliu+Blade

[craggy dagger]

mono quantum

[solid frigate]

i don't have Sparkle

nor Fu Xuan

[craggy dagger]

then run the-

oh

i was gonna say run the old mono quantum but instead of seele, it’s rice

[solid frigate]

also E0S1 Casto cuz i need the defense shred+Funny ahhh Nuclear Dragon

[craggy dagger]

i still can’t believe that you started playing hsr last year

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/hyper-beam-pokémon-hyper-beam-dragonite-pokémon-dragonite-dragonite-uses-hyper-beam-gif-26711796

[solid frigate]

and got progress faster than normal people

just pls

i need her E0S1 and hopefully Ruan Mei is not in the rerun

cuz Casto+RM+RMC

[spiral ridge]

Bro Pokémon on insta just posted an AZ floette post

I NEED IT MAN QUIT TEASING

[spiral ridge]

Legit childhood dream to have them and this is all reigniting it

[twin kindle]

aww did the baby learn to use a pacifier

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-cat-binky-kitten-gif-15555540241829930654

[twin kindle]

tu también

Babies, all of you

[molten oasis]

I am NOT a baby

[craggy dagger]

you sure
about that /t

[molten oasis]

[solid frigate]

waaaaaaaaaaaa

[spiral ridge]

I’m scared whether that’s waa like what or wa like a baby 😭

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/waaa-wah-screaming-flailing-invert-gif-17887693

[spiral ridge]

@charred saddle I’m all signed up

Building farig last sec was stressful cus I have no poke materials 😭

Emma and ham helping was a godsend

[charred saddle]

i had alyz help me with some mons

[molten oasis]

id do GC but i have wilds waiting for me

[charred saddle]

minh had lacius to help

[spiral ridge]

If I get more wins than losses I’ll make it a rental

[charred saddle]

[spiral ridge]

We love alyz and lacius too both lovely people

The uh trio birds except one bird twice shall win

Sorry garticuno

[charred saddle]

honestly i think my team is ass

[slate spindle]

Smite em

[charred saddle]

minh had like more fun strats too

[spiral ridge]

My team feels actually okay

I beat you so good enough for me

I almost gold bottle cap IV train my farig meaning it woulda fucked ip my 0 speed 😭

[left bobcat]

Woahhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[next stump]

is there 2 hours 12 minutes until GC? or 1 hour 12 minutes?

[empty turtle]

i just thought of a scary snorelak team

[spiral ridge]

2 hour 12 I think

[real prairie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QzFOKCGcxsI

Incase anyone wants to watch it

[spiral ridge]

I’m confusing myself wtf

[real prairie]

2h12

[spiral ridge]

Yes 2

My brain is not working

[empty turtle]

Belly Drum, Curse , Sitress berry, thick fat snorelax with trick room floral healing comefee

[bold geode]

https://x.com/Bulbagarden/status/1895120061045600320?t=EHhjVKpdPpjdf3rWfO6J7Q&s=19

Bulbagarden - The original Pokémon community (@Bulbagarden) on X

Artwork for the protagonists of Legends Z-A has been released:

X · Feb 27, 2025, 2:33 PM

https://tenor.com/view/gordon-ramsay-finally-good-food-chef-gif-11616250

[spiral ridge]

I love both designs a lot

XY MCs never disappoint

Tho I’m totally going girl for those jeans

[bold geode]

I usually pick female cuz they just always look better
But bro GOT THAT SHIT ON

THEY BOTH DO

[spiral ridge]

FR

[bold geode]

Honestly fuck character customization, I'm keeping the fits

[chrome knot]

theyre saoooo cuteee ^-^

[spiral ridge]

fr

I hope outfits are good in this game

[bold geode]

Both are
Then we got the what I'm hearing
Gender fluid rival?

[foggy lodge]

I just don't like the hat

[spiral ridge]

I wanna be pretty

[chrome knot]

no

[foggy lodge]

Hat kinda silly imo

[spiral ridge]

Fair

[chrome knot]

2 rivals but one you get is based off gender you choose :<

[bold geode]

Oh so that was a fucking lie

[spiral ridge]

Yeah

Rival is dependent

[bold geode]

I mean they look so similar anyways

But yeah I'm not taking either fit off unless there's just some fit that outshines it completely
Which there won't be

[spiral ridge]

Outfits have gone down I really hope they recover it

I want to dress my girl up in some nice fashion dammit

[strange fjord]

i mean, Kalos is the place where all the outfits started

[bold geode]

Honestly male one has m'lady vibes but somehow not from a fat sweaty Discord mod type beat

[strange fjord]

so I'd figure Kalos is gonna have a lot of fits

[spiral ridge]

The fedora yeah

[bold geode]

Yeah but imo the default outfits were like aight y'know

Like they were good but not peak
These are fucking peak

Bro got it on and I honestly do fuck with the bell bottoms

[strange fjord]

Also, Happy Pokemon Day!

[fallow palm]

ik this not a trading server but

does somone have calyrex

[spiral ridge]

There’s trading channels

[fallow palm]

yea

[strange fjord]

probably better luck there

[fallow palm]

yea og

sorry

[spiral ridge]

All good

[strange fjord]

Oh and lmk what y'all's opinion is on the MunchStats "Stats Graph" section is. If it's helpful or needs improvements and if there's any bugs

And Pokemon Champions gonna be dope. Can't wait for Megas again in my competitive game.

I can finally use Ampharos and Camerupt again

[spiral ridge]

I hope XY starters will be obtainable in some way

Cus I totally would take the trio on my team

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-floette-3000years-nintendo-pokemon-xy-gif-5345626

[strange fjord]

Might be locked to post game for getting all 3 starters in a playthough like Legends Arceus was

[spiral ridge]

My goal team is

Eternal floette (PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE)
3 XY starters
Emboar prob
Idk like lucario due to story nostalgia

[molten oasis]

My goal team, Totodile, and then new mons

[spiral ridge]

Ah shit yeah new variants may make it on

[strange fjord]

My goal team is Munchlax + 5 Others

[empty turtle]

will there be new forms for the ZA starters

[spiral ridge]

Wow person who made munch stats like munchlax

Genuinely dunno why I didn’t guess that as one lol

[left bobcat]

BRO GO SHOWER

[molten oasis]

That’s the hope

[strange fjord]

lol gotta have the boi on da team

[spiral ridge]

Ofc I also love him :)

He’s evo I like more cus

He’s big, fat, comfy and warm, sleeps, and only cares for music

He’s like me fr

[left bobcat]

Mega Urshifu let’s go

[empty turtle]

mega incin

[strange fjord]

Mega Dragonite so we get a Mega Stone called Dragoniteite

[spiral ridge]

Flygon mega

[left bobcat]

Damn I glitched when I tried to read it

[spiral ridge]

Nah I genuinely want a Delphox mega

Imagine just like a giant fur dress witch dress fusion

[empty turtle]

mega snorelax

gets bigger and more hungry and tired

[left bobcat]

Sounds like you

I’m kidding

[empty turtle]

nah u right

[molten oasis]

Mega fortress

So we get fortnite

[left bobcat]

OMG FORTNITE

WAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[empty turtle]

think of this team Belly Drum, Curse , Sitress berry, thick fat snorelax with trick room floral healing comefee

[bold geode]

[molten oasis]

[bold geode]

https://x.com/PLDHnet/status/1895185140302618808?t=Bqee4nEupeYFmasSjVQAYw&s=19

PLDH (@PLDHnet) on X

Trying to teach my idiot son about the joys and subtle flavours of coffee but he keeps trying to eat the table

X · Feb 27, 2025, 6:52 PM

Actually @molten oasis we have a problem with ZA

[empty turtle]

?

[bold geode]

The Kalos region is French 🤮

[empty turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-up-gag-gagging-yuck-gross-gif-16162052

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/scout-goes-insane-gif-25382090

[bold geode]

I'll have to play as a French person

It's over

[empty turtle]

nooo

[bold geode]

Immediately disinterested

[empty turtle]

ngl might be a waste of maney at that point

[bold geode]

Yeah all this peak design just to be French smfh

[molten oasis]

I’m friends with a lunatic that isnt gonna play a game because its French

[spiral ridge]

:3

[bold geode]

@stark kindle I THOUGHT I TOLD YOU TO GET RID OF THE FRENCH

[bold geode]

Totodile just like me
No thoughts

[bold geode]

I mean valid but

[molten oasis]

There is nothing valid about that statement

[bold geode]

But French people are like British people
But worse

[empty turtle]

totodile might be my starter pick

first time in the past two gens the water starter will be a good pick

[bold geode]

Oh @molten oasis I'm cleaning out drawers and just found 3 packs I haven't opened LMAO

[left bobcat]

Ooooo 3 pack?

Gummies

[foggy lodge]

btw gang Alcremie in Pokémon Unite!!!!

[molten oasis]

Cool

[left bobcat]

Cool ranch

[real prairie]

You are a visiting tourist in ZA

[real prairie]

Oy

[molten oasis]

I think monke is just in a racist mood

[spiral ridge]

Anti French sentiment propaganda was very successful in America

[real prairie]

Anti french is very British too, anyone that's seen 2 minutes of top gear will know that 🤣

I'm kind of double anti french being English and Italian 🤣

[near crag]

Hey, can anyone help me against my zamazenta matchup with this team https://pokepast.es/a1904be87b2cefd6 ? Thanks in advance

[dense latch]

i think you could benefit from mystic water urshifu so you can ko their pao with surging strikes

landorus and pao should be able to pin tera dragon zamazenta

[near crag]

I'd love to, but I need cloak, in order to beat tr

if he leads pao and zama, than who do I even tera?

[dense latch]

i think the lack of support is hurting you

it’s only really pelipper

personally feel like dragonite could be something like an ogerpon form to redirect moves from an otherwise unwinnable lead

[near crag]

Maybe, but then I can't deal with pagos

nor kinda caly s

[molten oasis]

I’m pretty sure pao can live mystic water shifu

[mint void]

196+ Atk Mystic Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Chien-Pao on a critical hit: 153-180 (98.7 - 116.1%) -- 98.02% chance to OHKO

156+ Atk Mystic Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Chien-Pao on a critical hit: 147-174 (94.8 - 112.2%) -- 84.42% chance to OHKO

nuhuh

[real prairie]

He's not wrong I guess, it can

Also GL to anyone playing GC, it's now live

[mint void]

yeah but scarf and sash can never KO

without tera

[left bobcat]

Pao pao

[shadow wind]

Now this is epic

[bold geode]

Nah I hate everyone
I just hate the French a lil more

[molten oasis]

That’s still racist

[bold geode]

It's racist if I hate everyone?

[mint void]

valid

[shadow wind]

Depends why you hate em

[molten oasis]

If you hate one race more than the other that’s racist

[shadow wind]

If you hate them cause they're French then yeah that's racist

[left bobcat]

WTH is going on here

[bold geode]

What if I have a French friend?

[left bobcat]

This ain’t Instagram dafuq

[mint void]

atp its just a meme cause like all the french I know are genuinly nice

[bold geode]

It's a joke guys calm down

[left bobcat]

It’s crazy because I was just talking about racism

[left bobcat]

Especially this right here

Ik this is deadass a joke so I ain’t gonna trip

But like now it’s so easy to actually let racism slide as a joke

[bold geode]

Like I mean if someone is offended then I'm sorry but like
I've literally told people in this server to exterminate the French as a joke and they played along
It's a full joke

[bold geode]

I don't wanna get into all that
Generally not ok but like
You know the difference always

[left bobcat]

Unfortunately not everyone does which luckily that isn’t the situation

But what do I know this is competitive discussions

[bold geode]

It's a long drawn out thing but it's not a great topic to ramble on about so let's shut it down

[shadow wind]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2309328533-2eq5mw5qa9f0fobocmbtmbo86e5afq6pw

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2309329903-rug18vbflqpxsbg1joxo4scesceqde7pw

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2309330958-c1oat3yc1dxeewjdpvr9wjipm0vpft7pw

Man this set sucked to play

I do not like smeargle

Was I lucky? Yes

Is that all Groudon is? Yes

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2309335259

this team is so cool

how would you guys play this if you were that guy

aw man

[shadow wind]

I would lead Zama and Pao and then kill the Electabuzz then kill the Poliwrath the next turn

[astral kelp]

icic

what if i brought hitmontop

you kill buzz and i get a fake out turn, poly should live an attack from zama or pao

specially with intimidate

[real prairie]

Double protect Infront of fake out

[shadow wind]

It's all rock paper scissors

So nothing we say here matters

[astral kelp]

yeah thats a good point lol

i want to try this team against an actual good player

[shadow wind]

I do X you do Y

It's always the same

[real prairie]

I'll give you a quick game if you want

Fuck it

[astral kelp]

ye less do it

[shadow wind]

You guys should send the link to the room

[astral kelp]

ill prolly lose since this is pure gimick but it would be really funny if i won

my user is k4x1

oh yea and

can we ban ghost types for this lmao

my team has 0 answers to ghost types LOL

even final gambit anihilape

[shadow wind]

Send the battle 🙏

[real prairie]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2309346420

[astral kelp]

okay i definitevly need more practice

[real prairie]

maybe go a little less gimmicky

and take a minute to pay attention to what you are doing

[astral kelp]

yeah hahahah

[real prairie]

you fell into needless traps in both games

[astral kelp]

the extreme speed into queenly majesty was so dumb lol

[molten oasis]

What’s going on

[real prairie]

you saw my encore when you protected against it, you then stayed in and got caught AND protected dragonite

[astral kelp]

yea i defintevly shouldve switched there

[real prairie]

K4 wanted to play someone, so i let Pina have a swing at him lol

[real prairie]

not not protected d'nite lol

[astral kelp]

yea hahahah\

i havent played against encore before

somehow

then i got all out of position

[real prairie]

i wasn't antisipating the volt switch, that caught me off guard at least

[astral kelp]

its a very different experience playing against an actual good player too

[real prairie]

was expecting a follow me

[real prairie]

appreciated, but there are far better out there.

[astral kelp]

yea i was trying to break sash

also i shouldve predicted your switch into chein pao

that was a really good switch

like ofc you switch your restricted into final gambit

[shadow wind]

Also what's up with Zamazenta?

Belly drum doesn't help him very much

[astral kelp]

wide guard mostly

it also tricks people into thinking zama is the threat

[shadow wind]

Your restricted shouldn't be like that

[real prairie]

the rayaquaza team is probably better suited for this gimmick

[shadow wind]

Because it is?

[real prairie]

you know hitmontop gets wideguard right?

[astral kelp]

yea im running it on him

so basicallty
i sent out poly and zama
they focus zama

i get a free belly drum off

its kinda dumb lmao

but it works

[shadow wind]

You ever play against CSR?

[real prairie]

LOL

[astral kelp]

yea a few times

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/incident-gif-2747499635347300991

[astral kelp]

its kinda rough cuz i cant extreme speed him

[real prairie]

you are all about gimmicks, prankster Trick a ring target onto CSR

[shadow wind]

Someone did that to me before

With expanding force

[astral kelp]

https://pokepast.es/856334ddce07239b
https://pokepast.es/f2df13135082000e

these are the 2 versions

[real prairie]

LOL what

[astral kelp]

LOOOOOOOOL

wanna play again against my less gimicky team?

[real prairie]

i remember getting tricked into swapping my choice scarf with a choice specs once, that was very funny when i just blew them up with a bigger BOOM

[real prairie]

Sure ill give you a quick game

[shadow wind]

Send it again 🙏

[real prairie]

will do

[molten oasis]

Ic

[shadow wind]

Thanks

[real prairie]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2309353198

this team almost looks normal

[elder bison]

Anyone able to get on voice chat to help me make a pokemon team for regulation G

[astral kelp]

it kinda is lol

[elder bison]

I have no idea what the meta is like right now so idk who I should build around

[next stump]

anyone been playing the GC? how's it going?

[real prairie]

im gonna start mine tomorrow

but i dont have much hope for my two mons with no items LOL

playing it for fun

[astral kelp]

whats your ivs for that kyogre btw?

[real prairie]

Sorry you had to witness that @shadow wind wasn't the best by me lol

[shadow wind]

I don't know if I could go back to Bo1 after playing strictly Bo3

[shadow wind]

Nah I thought you played fine

[real prairie]

252/252/4

[shadow wind]

Should see some of my games

I throw like it's a sport

[real prairie]

doesn't help its 1.30am here and i already fell asleep once today frrom exhaustion (whilst i was supposed to be working)

[shadow wind]

Then I'd say you played pretty good

[real prairie]

danke

wasn't expecting the double up on Tsareena last round, thought hed want my kyogre gone

otherwise id have just helping hands water spouted

[shadow wind]

Yeah bit of a weird call but it wasn't terrible

If they had icy wind you might've lost

[astral kelp]

i knew you wanted to switch it

[shadow wind]

Not after clicking fusion flare but

[astral kelp]

fusion flare was dumb tho

i shouldve freeze dried the tsareena

[shadow wind]

I don't think that would've killed

[astral kelp]

you think so?

[shadow wind]

But it also might've

[real prairie]

dont you have fusion bolt?

[astral kelp]

40% tsarena choice specs max spa kyogre

[shadow wind]

Fusion bolt is Kyurem black

[real prairie]

ah right

[shadow wind]

And physical

[astral kelp]

whats the evs for yor tsarena?

now im curious

252+ SpA Choice Specs Turboblaze Kyurem-White Freeze-Dry vs. 252 HP / 252 SpD Tsareena: 194-230 (108.3 - 128.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
oh yeah i didnt even need the moonblast

[molten oasis]

Just

[shadow wind]

It was tera ice

[astral kelp]

oh true good point

[shadow wind]

So it does a quarter of that

[molten oasis]

On Kyurem white into kyogre you pressure as much as possible with freeze dry

Kyogre teams hate that move

[real prairie]

60hp 252atk 176Sp

[shadow wind]

Evil rolls

[astral kelp]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Turboblaze Kyurem-White Freeze-Dry vs. 60 HP / 176 SpD Tera Ice Tsareena: 51-61 (32.9 - 39.3%) -- 99.9% chance to 3HKO
oooooff it wouldve been like just slightly off

so i definitevly had to fusion flare

but i didnt need to double her

[real prairie]

Could have earth powered into Kyogre to cover for the switch I guess

[dapper crag]

I'm looking to build a few teams around these four mons: tornadus, thundrus, landorus and enamorus

[real prairie]

Would still do a good chunk even if I didn't switch

[dapper crag]

For double battle purposes

[real prairie]

That in the low rolls is this 🤣

[real prairie]

All 4?

[shadow wind]

I played against an Enamorus earlier

[fluid fiber]

My little Perish trap team is getting some work in while my primary is locked for the GC

6-0 rn

[real prairie]

You know you can just make another team with the game mons right?

[astral kelp]

i was considering that
i didnt want to get locked into earth power so i decided to get locked into fusion flare LOOOL

definitevly missplay

[real prairie]

Because it's locked to GC doesn't mean you can't use it

[fluid fiber]

They all have a lock symbol so no i didn't realize that LMAO

Ive been using this team for NOTHING

[astral kelp]

anyyways thanks a lot for the games @real prairie gave me a lot of perspective

[gentle crag]

k4x1 has given 1 Gen Rep to oneofakindof

[real prairie]

V. Welcome

[dapper crag]

I'm in a group that I'm specialize in using desert. The kami quartet seems like the perfect mons to build a doubles team

[real prairie]

Keep practicing and maybe step away from the gimmicks a bit

You could have potentially given me a game with a reasonable team

[fluid fiber]

I had to take a big step back and look at my gameplay style

I relied way too much on gimmicks before

And TR

[dapper crag]

I know each of their signature moves doesn't miss in rain.

[chrome knot]

0-0 rn im winning the gc

[real prairie]

If you want to use all 4 maybe a Kyogre tailroom team?

[real prairie]

By not playing?

[chrome knot]

yuh

[real prairie]

Big Dubs

Ggs

[dapper crag]

@real prairie any examples?

[astral kelp]

ive been thinking that hitmontop might be better than incin in this meta because of wide guard

[foggy lodge]

Keep up the work

[shadow wind]

Ah heck nah

[foggy lodge]

I forgot it was today

[shadow wind]

Hitmontop is washed

[astral kelp]

why is incin so much better

[foggy lodge]

And i was too lazy to build the team in game

[shadow wind]

Resists both horses

[chrome knot]

typing, bulk, movepool

[real prairie]

Incin is the best mon of all competitive time lol

[fluid fiber]

Typing, bulk, move pool

[chrome knot]

@fluid fiber 🤝

[shadow wind]

Literally anything that makes him makes him good competitively

[astral kelp]

cuz hitmon has an insane movepool too

[shadow wind]

It doesn't get will o wisp or knock off

[chrome knot]

can this insane move pool live a psyshock

[astral kelp]

hmmm good point lol

[real prairie]

Don't think it could live a confusion

[shadow wind]

😭

[molten oasis]

You’re probably right

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 237: Hitmontop

Type

Fighting

Abilities

Intimidate, Technician, Steadfast (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

50/95/95/35/110/70

Total

455

Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

Eh, maybe

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 727: Incineroar

Types

Fire/Dark

Abilities

Blaze, Intimidate (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

95/115/90/80/90/60

Total

530

Sableye version 4.28.1

[shadow wind]

50 hp

[molten oasis]

Incin just got better everything especially in this format

[astral kelp]

45 less hp lmao\

[molten oasis]

We will never escape incin

[fluid fiber]

I just got washed

[shadow wind]

Clear amulet and covert cloak slow incin down a bit

[real prairie]

Especially if champions becomes the new VGC

[molten oasis]

[astral kelp]

i wonder who the best wide guard user is other than zama

[shadow wind]

Clamulet Groudon next to Pao is my bread and butter, 85% of the time Incin explodes

[shadow wind]

Iron Valiant

[fluid fiber]

I can't believe i forgot to change my nature and IV train my ninetails

[real prairie]

Pelliper, valiant, gallade

[fluid fiber]

Mienshao

[real prairie]

I forgot to give 2 of my mons items, so don't beat yourself up

[shadow wind]

Ah heck nah

Gallade?

[molten oasis]

Pelipper or Lunala

[dapper crag]

Only 3 mons has the Drizzle ability and Kyogre is one I can't use in Doubles OU

[fluid fiber]

Valiant is a little cope

[molten oasis]

Valiant

[astral kelp]

huh it learns skuill swap wtf

[shadow wind]

Worst rage bait of all time

[astral kelp]

does that even work

[fluid fiber]

I feel like it always dies immediately

[real prairie]

Yeah I've seen it quite a chunk

[shadow wind]

If you play it wrong yeah

Really? I like never see it

[fluid fiber]

Oh my God is that a Super Paper Mario pfp

[real prairie]

Usually see it on hard TR teams with CIR

[shadow wind]

Indeed it is

[fluid fiber]

You're immediately based

[real prairie]

Not sure it's utility over valiant though

[shadow wind]

I only see it on that Dawn wings team

[shadow wind]

🙏

[real prairie]

Ah doubles OU... Okay that changes things

[dapper crag]

Which leads, Politoad and Pelipper

[shadow wind]

Now this, this is VGC

[real prairie]

Wolfe's nightmare/wet dream, you decide which 🤣

[fluid fiber]

This is my final GC team, wish me luck

[real prairie]

GL

Go smash it

[shadow wind]

I haven't played on cart in so long

[fluid fiber]

I wanted to run something that's very balanced, though I may regret my lack of speed control

[shadow wind]

Been a Bo3 warrior recently

[spiral ridge]

I hope you’re just saying this late cus if not entry is closed 😭

[dapper crag]

So@real prairie what's my strategy here with this team to be?

[shadow wind]

Rain and nuke

Or you could use Lando T with Thund T and do disquake

[molten oasis]

Peak

[dapper crag]

Hmm... @shadow wind that's actually a very good idea

[shadow wind]

I'm a real thinker

[spiral ridge]

Both incins then parting into a horse

[shadow wind]

Bro this game is going to turn 20 because this guy forgot to bring an Incin counter 😭

[shadow wind]

Both CSRs

Nah just kidding

One of them Korai

[dapper crag]

Any builds you recommend?

[shadow wind]

They just keep healing

[fluid fiber]

I love Bo3 so much more than ladder but oh well

[shadow wind]

Man what a boring game to watch

Bro brought 4 mons that are walled by Incin

[molten oasis]

That guy is probably on the list of most boring players on the planet

[shadow wind]

Scarf Lando T usually does well, I've seem some bands when paired with Torn though

[fluid fiber]

My team is a bit bland

[shadow wind]

So half the populous?

[molten oasis]

Yes lol

[shadow wind]

Respect

Say it how it is

[fluid fiber]

I MIGHT start theory crafting a perish team again - not because of the EUIC I promise

[foggy lodge]

I want to find something cool

[shadow wind]

You and everyone else

[fluid fiber]

Ive been running perish teams since SwSh when I can

[foggy lodge]

For bo1 i have an idea but it got boring fast

I can just send it here i didn't work too much

[fluid fiber]

Go for it

[shadow wind]

But as a great person once said

"You don't need to invent something new everytime, you just need to master the stepping stone you placed"

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/8dd1d1f924d96105

[fluid fiber]

I built my GC team for my local, so it's not the best Bo1 team

[astral kelp]

guys did you know that if you have plus 3 crit ratio you get an 100% crit chance

[shadow wind]

Yes

[fluid fiber]

I LOVE Alcreami man

[astral kelp]

nyehjhehehe

[fluid fiber]

I wanna use it so bad

Its SO FUN

[shadow wind]

Hm I probably need taunt coverage

Maybe that's why I lose when I do

I lost to smeargle CIR and 2 zamas both with ID

[molten oasis]

What bear kyogre?

I think Ursa kyogre is fun and really cool

[foggy lodge]

Yeah its cool but I don't see it for bo1

I want something gross for bo1

[molten oasis]

Specs kyogre

[foggy lodge]

I tried but it was too linear

I can search for sure

[molten oasis]

Hm

[foggy lodge]

I don't think Zama is very good for bo1

[molten oasis]

Tera ice specs kyurem?

[foggy lodge]

I want a real restricted sorry

It looks fun

[left bobcat]

Define real

[foggy lodge]

Almost all in the table rn even Lunala

[foggy lodge]

Atleast some kind of result

[left bobcat]

….

[foggy lodge]

Groudon idk its also not very strong for bo1 imo

[molten oasis]

What are you supposed to do funny wise with real mons tho

[foggy lodge]

Maybe scarf Groudon

[left bobcat]

Pokemon isn’t even real

Fiction

[molten oasis]

Okay that’s not what, bruh

[shadow wind]

Who even is that?

[molten oasis]

Okay choice band Tera ice CIR

[shadow wind]

Don't know the guy

[left bobcat]

Not worth it

[foggy lodge]

Nah restricted has to be strong

The other mons can be silly

[left bobcat]

It works on Kyogre because of water spout

[foggy lodge]

Choice band Chien-Pao is also something i want to use

[left bobcat]

Groudon has eruption but-

[molten oasis]

Oh gotcha, for bo1 I think CSR is probably best

[foggy lodge]

I saw a japanese player using it and i want to steal it

[molten oasis]

Zacian

(Not biased I swear)

[foggy lodge]

Hmmm maybe

[left bobcat]

But

Mewtwo

[foggy lodge]

It has a couple if good moves so i can try it

[left bobcat]

Kyurem white

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2309377544
MUAHAHA

[next stump]

ayo 4-0 in the GC so far i normally suck at these things

[astral kelp]

its not that good but its definitevly funny

[molten oasis]

LETS GO

alright what you need

[foggy lodge]

Silly mons

I want maybe swords dance

[molten oasis]

Hm

Is gapdos silly enough?

[bold geode]

Aight my 3 games are done lol
I know I threw Rayquaza in there cuz I had nothing else but this time might actually have been the most miserable 3 games I've ever played

[molten oasis]

Lemme take a look

[bold geode]

Can't even use the mfer for lols
He's that bad

[torn parrot]

Im gonna be honest i feel like incineroar has become such a meme that it would be almost stupid marketing wise to not make a mega incineroar

[bold geode]

Incineroar ain't in ZA so

At least from looks of it

Also it's only a meme cuz of Wolfe

With Play Pokemon

Idk if every single thing is gonna translate from him

[torn parrot]

Im 100% sure they didn’t show all the megas

[bold geode]

Yeah but I doubt ones gonna be Incineroar

[torn parrot]

Maybe not incin tho

[molten oasis]

Please no

[torn parrot]

Yeah

[bold geode]

Like it's just not logical imo

[molten oasis]

Also how many silly mons do you want @foggy lodge

[bold geode]

Well Yotam was right about one thing
Don't use Rayquaza if you want to win

Cuz you literally can't win with that mfer

[molten oasis]

I mean, it’s Rayquaza

[bold geode]

Yeah but even putting it with 3 Pokemon that are really good just yeah
Nothing can save that

[molten oasis]

Rayquaza sucks lol

[bold geode]

How the hell does something that removes weather lose to weather

[molten oasis]

What weather?

[bold geode]

Both LMAO

It's that bad

Can't even do it's job right

[trim hound]

Powercreep, no Mega forme

[bold geode]

The one thing you were marketed to beat
Groudon and Kyogre
And you just don't

[bold geode]

I mean I know these things

But how the hell did I get it to work before LMAO

[torn parrot]

I wonder if the leakers know all the mons in za j wanna see what they got

[bold geode]

Oh well my 3 games were over
I forgot to prep so I wasn't expecting to do good anyways 🤷‍♂️

No one even let me know this one was happening so I didn't know about it til yesterday

Hell my other bullshit team that slapped Infernape on an Ice Rider team probably would've done better

[molten oasis]

For funny mons with Zac, wake milotic basc, blaziken tusk gapdos, lando t and ting ku maybe

[bold geode]

Anyways imma watch some YT and later tonight imma play Rivals
Probably QP tbh
@molten oasis got any fun hero ideas for me to try
Literally just name any

[molten oasis]

Ideally want anti incin

[bold geode]

I thought about Psylocke

[torn parrot]

Saving these two babies for tonight

[molten oasis]

Why?

[molten oasis]

Thor

[bold geode]

I've tried Thor

But that ain't bad idea

[cyan smelt]

Play jeff

[torn parrot]

Arceus pack drops tonight

[dapper crag]

Ok I have a proto build

https://pokepast.es/a33d9806690a18ed

[dense latch]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9randombattle-2309386024 im never playing randbats again

[bold geode]

Also done that
Might get the cute skin

[next stump]

any reason you’re playing doubles OU over VGC?

[dapper crag]

Can't use kyogre in Doubles OU @next stump

[molten oasis]

There’s an arceus pack?

[next stump]

yeah but why are you playing doubles OU?

[azure ether]

there's no item clause in OU?

[left bobcat]

Look at my wrist

It’ll leave you frozeeeeeeeeeee

[torn parrot]

Yep

It was announced during pokemon presents

[left bobcat]

For a second I thought that was a poo

[torn parrot]

Red poonda

[molten oasis]

Oh ok

[forest arrow]

No shiny ruinous legends yet

sadge

[molten oasis]

Yea

[azure ether]

no shiny kung fu bears yet either

[forest arrow]

I just want chi yu

[left bobcat]

Kung fu panda

[azure ether]

to miss Overheat, Heat Wave, and Snarl with style?

[left bobcat]

I just want a soda

[molten oasis]

I want chien pao

[forest arrow]

urshs is underwhelming imo

chien paos is sick

[molten oasis]

It’s subtle but I think it’s mid

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/gen5-shiny/chienpao.png

[forest arrow]

Hell even ting Lu looks cool

[azure ether]

I just hope they all won't require going to specific places to obtain

[boreal mauve]

Shiny Ting-lu

Provided by Nexus-Z

[molten oasis]

That would be ass

[forest arrow]

Tf

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/gen5-shiny/tinglu.png

[forest arrow]

Ty lmao

[left bobcat]

Shiny ursh is just

Ass

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/ani-shiny/urshifu.gif

[molten oasis]

Wow guys my hands are red

[left bobcat]

Bro got a tan

[forest arrow]

Red paws, face, and a darker body

[molten oasis]

I like the yellow more anyway

[azure ether]

better than ice horse at least

[molten oasis]

Ogerpons shiny also kinda sucks

[forest arrow]

The Caly shinies suck

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/gen5-shiny/ogerpon.png

[forest arrow]

Ogerpons face just turns green

[molten oasis]

Like yea it’s a part YOU CANT SEE

[left bobcat]

🤢

[molten oasis]

and it looks worse

[left bobcat]

Gamefreak with these shinies man

It’s either a hit or miss

[forest arrow]

then we have shinies like Chi Yu and Koraidon

[boreal mauve]

Shiny Terapagos

Provided by Nexus-Z

[left bobcat]

Looks like candy

[molten oasis]

ewww

[left bobcat]

Terapagos but albino

[azure ether]

whoops

[forest arrow]

Idk about that one either

[left bobcat]

Bleh

[forest arrow]

Kind of like normal Pagos more

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/gen5-shiny/terapagos-terastal.png

[azure ether]

we lost

[forest arrow]

Just turns brighter

[left bobcat]

Ik shiny future paradoxes all have the chrome color but shiny iron crown is dope

Fits well with the chrome

[spiral ridge]

I like it it’s silly

[forest arrow]

I think bolts it subtle but nice

[azure ether]

shiny electrofuria

[tiny karma]

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/sprites/gen5-shiny/ragingbolt.png

[molten oasis]

Bolt’s shiny is gas

[azure ether]

given that there wasn't a hint of gen 10 in the presents earlier, do you guys think we'll still be in SV until the end of the year for VGC?

[left bobcat]

Theyre greatttttttttttttt

[foggy lodge]

Maybe but please nooooooo

Maybe it goes to champions if it releases next year but no date for that doesn't help

[molten oasis]

If it goes to champions the last format will be double restricted and then SV dies

[foggy lodge]

4 years of SV

[molten oasis]

Lmfao

[forest arrow]

Nah I fuck with the darker yellow and blue

[molten oasis]

Ayo?

[azure ether]

because I'm guessing when they would release the shiny ruins based off of when they released the shiny tapus and galarian birds

[molten oasis]

(Ik what you meant)

[azure ether]

they released them in global challenges, right?

[molten oasis]

Usually

[forest arrow]

Lmao

[foggy lodge]

I think it wasn't a GC

[forest arrow]

I see what you meant 😂😂

[molten oasis]

The birds were

[foggy lodge]

Or not strictly a GC because i saw people playing singles to get them

[molten oasis]

Ah

[foggy lodge]

So maybe its just "a tournament" to get them

[rustic mountain]

i dont hate it but why?

[azure ether]

I didn't play USUM but it was some form of in-game ladder, right?

[forest arrow]

I don’t hate the idea of fantasy core for these three

[left bobcat]

The big three

[forest arrow]

Fire Steel, Water Dragon, Grass Fairy

[rustic mountain]

just make em viable competitively lmao

[left bobcat]

Water dragon getting washed 💀

[azure ether]

4x weaknesses again

[molten oasis]

Task impossible

[left bobcat]

Then again they wall each other even more

Water dragon got nothing on grass and fairy

[forest arrow]

We already know chikorita has fairy moves

[forest arrow]

True watch them make Meganium OP

[foggy lodge]

Oh yeah

[azure ether]

(gets access to Poison Jab)

[left bobcat]

Fire/steel 4x resistance both grass and fairy

[rustic mountain]

we saw some fringe case success w/ h typh who knows a different format maybe the other 2 would be decent too

[foggy lodge]

Kalos Meganium/Mega Meganium is fairy grass

[molten oasis]

Fair enough

[foggy lodge]

Imagine Mega Meganium

[left bobcat]

And water resist fire and steel

[forest arrow]

Did Hecidueye do okay for a little?

[rustic mountain]

yea im more curious if they get megas or evolution variations

[forest arrow]

In reg h?

[rustic mountain]

it was ok on ladder and some grassroots but it fell off

[foggy lodge]

Until people realized that Flamigo was better

[left bobcat]

It was ok

[foggy lodge]

That was like a week

[azure ether]

some locals here used it for swamp pledge

and that was about it

[left bobcat]

Good ability decent moves

[forest arrow]

Just slow af

[left bobcat]

Typing and stats however

[foggy lodge]

What its speed like 65 no?

[rustic mountain]

its jus meh its signature move is good and its ability is good but yea otherwise it sucks

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 724: Decidueye-Hisui

Types

Grass/Fighting

Abilities

Overgrow, Scrappy (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

88/112/80/95/95/60

Total

530

Base Species

Decidueye

Sableye version 4.28.1

[foggy lodge]

😭

[forest arrow]

Its signature move is cool too

[left bobcat]

60 💀

[foggy lodge]

why does it has 95 spatk aaaa

Like 40 stats wasted

[rustic mountain]

its not horrible but especially for formats wen its allowed it hasnt been anything notable

[left bobcat]

Went from 70 to 60

[rustic mountain]

regional dex would prolly b ok for it

same for h samurott

[forest arrow]

Just find it weird they used to from the same gen

[foggy lodge]

A reg H again would be so cool for gen 10

[forest arrow]

But I mean hey they both need it so I’m not complaining

[foggy lodge]

Or even champions

[molten oasis]

I wish hamurott was better

[forest arrow]

champions looks cool, an official showdown of sorts

[foggy lodge]

No legendaries regs are kinda cool

[forest arrow]

Just leave our showdown alone please and ty

[molten oasis]

But I will stand on my point that Heci was always shit

[rustic mountain]

i think they are covering older mons that dont have form changes. gen 1 and 3 have megas etc

[foggy lodge]

Yeah gen 2 had nothing

[azure ether]

makes me wonder if Showdown is gonna get C&D'd when Champions releases

[rustic mountain]

if its anything similar to showdown it might

[foggy lodge]

Probably the kalos starters will have their megas

[forest arrow]

Yeah I think these will be kalosian and we get a second set of starters like we did in X and Y but instead of Kanto starters we get Kalos starters with there respective mega (just a prediction)

[craggy dagger]

i’m guessing so

[azure ether]

showdown without the tiers

[foggy lodge]

Can we consider alolan starters Z moves¿

[left bobcat]

NO

[molten oasis]

No

[foggy lodge]

Fair enough

[rustic mountain]

i could see it just being like a revamped pokemon stadium and if i cant just port stuff w/ ivs and shit on the fly as i please to test, its not really a leg up on sd for prep/testing in that regard

[rustic mountain]

it really depends on the details

[foggy lodge]

Yeah

[craggy dagger]

it looks fun though-
gotta wait for more details

[foggy lodge]

0 info really about that game

[rustic mountain]

it does look fun

[forest arrow]

I like not having to have the mons and just being able to test on the fly

[rustic mountain]

it has a lot of promise for sure

[craggy dagger]

it would be cool if it was like
showdown but there’s also a story mode on the side

[forest arrow]

So we will have to see

[rustic mountain]

thats the big thing

[foggy lodge]

And the "in development" probably means that we won't know anything about it in a long time

[rustic mountain]

its likely a 2026 release

[forest arrow]

Most likely, it did look cool tho

[craggy dagger]

give them like-
at least 3 months for updates i think

[rustic mountain]

maybe, we waited awhile for lza update

[foggy lodge]

A year😭

[azure ether]

guess we'll get 1 more year of SV

[rustic mountain]

yep

[forest arrow]

Hey they’re finally taking their time with stuff I say let them

[craggy dagger]

lza’s battle style is really cool-

[rustic mountain]

honestly if gen 10 is late 2026 we might be using champions for vgc depending again on what kind of game it is

[foggy lodge]

btw TCG megas look cool

[craggy dagger]

also
the way how stealth rocks do what was in the anime now

[foggy lodge]

Dude the latest expansions are so cool trainer pokemon and now megas

[rustic mountain]

the battling looks great

[craggy dagger]

i haven’t seen that yet-
oop

[azure ether]

but weren't megas already a thing before?

[foggy lodge]

Yeah but they dissapeared

And now they look more broken

[forest arrow]

Being able to dodge and stuff is cool

[craggy dagger]

though i’m not sure-
do you get to joystick control the pokemon too?
or would it be like an AI movement with selecting moves

[rustic mountain]

yea its a lot more immersive/interactive of a battle

[forest arrow]

I like that we’re using the scarlet and violet graphics