Which of the 3 tho
#competitive_discussion
spiral ridge
charred saddle
any ig
molten oasis
Okay
charred saddle
i do want them back tho 
since they were shiny 
foggy lodge
ALL 3
charred saddle
i just kinda wanna use them haha
molten oasis
If you wanna do gapdos Zac you probably have to go crowned lol
charred saddle
go stamped too 
molten oasis
Pure fairy isn’t than good and it’s not like 120 attack is all that impressive for a restricted
spiral ridge
i do want them back tho <:kekpoli:1183398508133355571>
since they were shiny <...
I’ll give you my shiny lunala as collateral
WAIT WHAT IF I DO LUNALA
charred saddle
i mean its a +1 that wont be reduced 
spiral ridge
I CAN FINALLY USE THAT DICKHEAD
molten oasis
I’m curious
charred saddle
ooh u can do that yeah haha
molten oasis
+1 252 Atk Zacian Play Rough vs. 244 HP / 196+ Def Incineroar: 90-106 (44.7 - 52.7%) -- 24.61% chance to 2HKO
252 Atk Zacian-Crowned Play Rough vs. 244 HP / 196+ Def Incineroar: 70-84 (34.8 - 41.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO huh
This doesn’t justify it I was looking
charred saddle
ground tera zac
molten oasis
You miss out on bblade and the steel typing, and the speed the speed is probably the big one
charred saddle
also
molten oasis
ground tera zac
I was legit just comparing general damage
And figured I’d look at incin
charred saddle
also like i have other incin plays, and not just zac
molten oasis
I know
You have gapdos, gapdos felt good with crowned since you get anti fairies for gapdos, with bblade
Flutter mostly but flutter doesn’t struggle with gapdos
And flying types, I’d try some hyper offense stuff with gapdos Zac and like, torn or pao and see how that goes
And ice types, that steel helps a ton lol
I do think it needs a bunch of work but it could work
spiral ridge
Which of the 2 tho
Uno is psychic so weakness overlap so maybe tres?
real prairie
?
spiral ridge
Mushroom
real prairie
LOL
spiral ridge
Be the slower sleeper
charred saddle
Uno is psychic so weakness overlap so maybe tres?
for lunala?
spiral ridge
for lunala?
Yee
real prairie
incase of stray torkoals
charred saddle
yeah that might be good
spiral ridge
Ig that too lmfao
spiral ridge
yeah that might be good
I’ll have to figure it out soon 😭
charred saddle
since like, articuno is only good against zama tbf 
charred saddle
I’ll have to figure it out soon 😭
mint void
feels like a really funny TR counter
Min speed max spattack Amoonguss
spiral ridge
Brother I wasn’t gonna join before you asked I’ll join the bullshit
solid frigate
All Around me are familiar Eggman's
charred saddle
idk why u sounded so excited on letting me know this info 😭
molten oasis
lol
spiral ridge
idk why u sounded so excited on letting me know this info 😭
sounds like something youd like
also shes just pretty so i got happy :3
yakuza characters with the name reina are the prettiest characters theyre 2/2
foggy lodge
but its not friday
spiral ridge
this is silly mod
the most amazing fanmade mod that changes the entirety of kiwami 2
want a video to watch its bullshitery for 30 minute?
molten oasis
I’m about to go to work so not right now but you could dm me a video
astral kelp
lol that poor medichan
molten oasis
Why is it purple my eyes
astral kelp
skill swap medichan with gigas is a pretty cool concept tho i gotta say
he didnt expect me to skill swap back
astral kelp
Why is it purple my eyes
idk why trick room does that man
spiral ridge
microsoft paint buckjet
astral kelp
i have found out why
molten oasis
astral kelp
i have a dark theme thing
molten oasis
That’s what does it? That’s dumb asf
astral kelp
looks right if i turn it off lol
charred saddle
sounds like something youd like
not that i wont like it 
real prairie
Oh FFS
spiral ridge
bro?
real prairie
It's because it's hurt 🤣
spiral ridge
DUDE
real prairie
I'm an idiot
spiral ridge
CMON 😭
foggy lodge
😭😭😭😭😭
real prairie
It's 10 to midnight here, I clearly need to go to bed
spiral ridge
that sounds good
real prairie
Sorry
spiral ridge
youre all good its funny af lmfao
real prairie
Better now than during GC LOL
spiral ridge
i mean
if you think your current hp is your max hp youll just play like every enemy sash is up
left bobcat
What if all of this is a flashback
fallow palm
yo can somone help me build my team 🙂
real prairie
Need nicknames for my Tornadus plz
left bobcat
Need nicknames for my Tornadus plz
Fujin
fallow palm
Need nicknames for my Tornadus plz
Brickfielder: A wind from the desert in Southern Australia. Precedes the passage of a frontal zone of a low passing by. Has the same dusty character as the Harmattan. (Evert Wesker, Amsterdam, The Netherlands)
real prairie
Brickfielder: A wind from the desert in Southern Australia. Precedes the passage...
That's pretty cool, think we have a winner
I know this isn't a trading chat but anyone have a shiny Litten line they don't mind giving me?
fallow palm
I know this isn't a trading chat but anyone have a shiny Litten line they don't ...
i got an incenearoar
real prairie
i got an incenearoar
You happy to part ways with it?
fallow palm
You happy to part ways with it?
not really it was in my play through but
if you help me build my team sure 🙂
real prairie
Haha would be my pleasure.
left bobcat
…
fallow palm
alr dms
fallow palm
hi
molten oasis
next stump
smogmog
astral kelp
https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-dance-calyrex-gif-19192527
what he doin
chrome knot
SMOGMOG
astral kelp
boing boing boing
chrome knot
dude if i got mogged by fucking weezing youd see me dead outside the vancouver venue
molten oasis
Smogmog (what is that)
chrome knot
weezing lmfao
real prairie
You can't pull a team out of GC once it's locked in can you?
chrome knot
nooo
molten oasis
What did you lock in?
chrome knot
whatd u do
real prairie
Going to me a long weekend
chrome knot
LMFAOOO
molten oasis
That’s rough
chrome knot
ohhh nooo 
real prairie
At least it's IVd EVd and has the right moves and tera I suppose
chrome knot
be like me, dont play gc ^-^
real prairie
Just no red card strats for me
molten oasis
Id do gc if there was real rewards
Like shiny ruins
Cmon man give us shiny ruins I want blue chi yu
chrome knot
if i were still close to the points race i would but
im way out by now so no reason to slam my head into the wall over it
molten oasis
real prairie
Huge L from me
molten oasis
Yea I wouldn’t play at that point
real prairie
Don't do shit at nearly 2am, wtf is wrong with me
real prairie
Yea I wouldn’t play at that point
I could just bank on everyone assuming it's cloak and never faking it out 😭🤣
molten oasis
Real
real prairie
Indeed
real prairie
When is deadline for GC?
Thursday 11.59pm gmt
tranquil kraken
be like me, dont play gc ^-^
make me a team for gc
tranquil kraken
ok next time mayb :3
chrome knot
ok next time mayb :3
yus next time ^-^
molten oasis
That sheep is dripped out
bold geode
Thursday 11.59pm gmt
Wait is that this coming week?
tranquil kraken
are u bringing a plush to vancouver
real prairie
Wait is that this coming week?
Yeah
bold geode
make me a team for gc
Cosmoem team stat
real prairie
?
tranquil kraken
ill only play gc if we get a shiny distro
chrome knot
are u bringing a plush to vancouver
plusle
molten oasis
If I do go do gc I’m talking kyurem
chrome knot
to match with my gfs minun ;3
tranquil kraken
cuteee
chrome knot
awh yay!!
spiral ridge
SHAUN THE SHEEP
molten oasis
lol
chrome knot
i have a charcadet too
tranquil kraken
which one
chrome knot
beeg goober one
tranquil kraken
they can be buddies
tranquil kraken
spiral ridge
pft
spiral ridge
he puts them into a capsule
bold geode
Watch me lock in shit for GC just to play Marvel Rivals the whole weekend
left bobcat
Charmander
real prairie
i have a carrying bag for it
If only there were some device for carrying Pokémon around with ease lol
tranquil kraken
if he fits he sits
chrome knot
plusle in my bag rn but this is our plusle/minun ^-^
bold geode
Meanwhile me with Zam and Chimchar plushies
chrome knot
this pic was easier to find than getting outta bed
bold geode
Getting outta bed is hard girl
My options are lay in bed for an hour or stumble around my house like a drunk cuz I'm half asleep
tranquil kraken
real prairie
Found a positive... Less knock-off damage 😭
molten oasis
Watch me lock in shit for GC just to play Marvel Rivals the whole weekend
Real
And not climb out of silver
mint void
Uff
molten oasis
My options are lay in bed for an hour or stumble around my house like a drunk cu...
Then you try and get up earlier and you stay in bed for 2 hours
next stump
Found a positive... Less knock-off damage 😭
just think how awesome the team report will be when you win
molten oasis
“So I didn’t have items on torn or incin, I figured I’d make them play mind games as kyogre spams spout”
real prairie
Literally just won a game because torn didn't die to a roaring moon knock off 😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣
molten oasis
“And of course, less knock off damage”
harsh depot
2nd Playthrough of Sword... Is this really good for CIR?
charred saddle
uh yeah
trim hound
Yeah
real prairie
Yeah good shit
tranquil kraken
rip your dms
trim hound
Bro really saved his game before checking IVs
harsh depot
Why my DMs?
tranquil kraken
harsh depot
No, I didn't. That's the silly part
trim hound
Why my DMs?
Because I want it
charred saddle
as in people will dm to ask for it
molten oasis
https://pokepast.es/2f8c194aa3d5ca78 oh @real prairie found something that works for me
tranquil kraken
good stuff lilly
harsh depot
I literally just threw a master ball at it
tranquil kraken
gg
molten oasis
Why I have no fckn idea but it works
charred saddle
yeah its a nice find
real prairie
https://pokepast.es/2f8c194aa3d5ca78 oh <@330362488447041537> found something th...
Good shit
Swords dance feels overkill, it murders everything with guts facade anyway lol
molten oasis
Swords dance feels overkill, it murders everything with guts facade anyway lol
I also don’t think I have room for earthquake
harsh depot
I literally only wanted Glastrier, so if anyone wants it, DM me I guess. We can make a deal 
molten oasis
Cuz my team’s protect options are pretty limited
molten oasis
I literally only wanted Glastrier, so if anyone wants it, DM me I guess. We can ...
You should keep it
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
harsh depot
You should keep it
Is it really that valuable?
molten oasis
If you play vgc yes
real prairie
I also don’t think I have room for earthquake
Fling would be really funny into CIR
charred saddle
or like marked shinies easily
molten oasis
I would say it’s worth a rarer shiny
real prairie
Fling would be really funny into CIR
Pretty sure when you fling flame orb it burns
molten oasis
Nah lmao
molten oasis
Holy shit that movepool
molten oasis
YAWN
real prairie
molten oasis
real prairie
Fling burns with flame orb
Which is double pain for CIR
Here take a super effective dark type attack and a burn
molten oasis
Nah hear me out on yawn
real prairie
Yawn is a more sensible choice
shadow wind
Fling burns with flame orb
Fling is also a 130 BP dark move with iron ball
real prairie
Just seeing fling and flame orb makes me laugh already
shadow wind
I'm lurking again 😔
real prairie
Hi Conner
shadow wind
Heya
shadow wind
Sneaslers used to use king's rock fling
Flame orb fling sounds awesome
You'll just need to get through the redirectors
real prairie
To activate unburden? Lol that just seems like extra long winded fake out normal gem
shadow wind
Yeah unburden stuff
real prairie
Flame orb fling sounds awesome
Ikr, could you imagine the rage from the CIR runner
shadow wind
I mean they got 2 flinches with it
real prairie
I mean they got 2 flinches with it
I suppose
shadow wind
It was pretty mid though
shadow wind
Nah what was it?
mint void
Cool incin tech
real prairie
Nah what was it?
Locked in GC team with incin and Tornadus with no item
real prairie
I did just practice a game in ranked ladder to see just how bad it's gonna be and survived a knock off from roaring moon because had no item to boost damage lol
molten oasis
What else is there
real prairie
In the team?
molten oasis
No for Ursa
real prairie
Oh lol
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
molten oasis
I legit think it goes status move or eq
real prairie
Taunt
molten oasis
Most of its coverage moves don’t compare to facade
mint void
Sleep talk or hh also funny for cts
real prairie
It'll be burned so sleep talk not useful
molten oasis
Yawn seems pretty good
real prairie
Roar, copy Dyl
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
real prairie
Why did I feel this did something special if it hits a Mon that switches into the attack
molten oasis
Roar, copy Dyl
But that was for Fari
bold geode
2nd Playthrough of Sword... Is this really good for CIR?
That's a 0 IV speed, that's great for TR stuff
bold geode
Then you try and get up earlier and you stay in bed for 2 hours
- Real
- Fuck you for previous message
molten oasis
lol
harsh depot
That's a 0 IV speed, that's great for TR stuff
Awesome! I literally just threw a master ball at it and that happened XD
real prairie
But that was for Fari
Indeed but roar is roar lol
real prairie
Awesome! I literally just threw a master ball at it and that happened XD
Want a shiny Groudon for it 👀🤣
Kidding you should keep it
Nice catch
harsh depot
Want a shiny Groudon for it 👀🤣
Already have one, and I intend on keeping it unless I get a really good offer
real prairie
Already have one, and I intend on keeping it unless I get a really good offer <:...
I have ran out of things to offer lol I have a ton of shinies but most are easily accessible haha
harsh depot
You never know. Don't doubt the power of my laziness
left bobcat
Bulb
next stump
I have ran out of things to offer lol I have a ton of shinies but most are easil...
i’ve definitely asked you this before but are you planning on any other regionals this year? or are you saving up energy/money for next year with more planning?
real prairie
i’ve definitely asked you this before but are you planning on any other regional...
I might try for 1 or 2 more depending on my finances closer to the time
molten oasis
i’ve definitely asked you this before but are you planning on any other regional...
What moves would be best for the third slot on Ursa? I don’t think the team I have needs swords dance and isn’t fit for earthquake
next stump
i’ve seen shadow claw/sub/swords dance
i think those are the only 3 i’d consider
or add a tera flying for earthquake
real prairie
i think those are the only 3 i’d consider
We were discussing Yawn/helping hand
I also liked fling for funny SE dark type and a burn on CIR but that's just for lols
molten oasis
I thought yawn could be neat but ig sub it is
252+ Atk Guts Ursaluna Shadow Claw vs. 244 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Ice Rider: 100-118 (48.5 - 57.2%) -- 92.19% chance to 2HKO that’s so disappointing
Facade does almost the same damage as Tera ghost shadow claw
It’s like 1% off lol
Yawn or sub ig
molten oasis
it hits csr and other ghosts
Headlong rush
foggy lodge
252+ Atk Guts Ursaluna Shadow Claw vs. 244 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Ice Rider: 100-118...
im gonna deactivate your guts
foggy lodge
maybe
If you can kill Weezing fast you can do well
Chien-Pao is always solid in that match up
Hands Pao is solid into those teams
molten oasis
Sick
spiral ridge
252+ Atk Guts Ursaluna Shadow Claw vs. 244 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Ice Rider: 100-118...
Shadow claw?
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
molten oasis
Shadow claw?
We’re trying to figure out what 3rd move I give Ursa
Debating sub SD and yawn
spiral ridge
Facade headlong sub protect
foggy lodge
Substitute is the best imo
spiral ridge
Just normal set no?
spiral ridge
Debating sub SD and yawn
Swords dance?
left bobcat
Man I was panicking today
molten oasis
btw how fast is your Ursa
It’s -nature but not min speed
left bobcat
I thought my test was today cuz my ass was still hammered from yesterday
molten oasis
Idk how to ev Ursa for tw
molten oasis
Swords dance?
Punishing intim
left bobcat
Idk how to ev Ursa for tw
Just slap some max hp
spiral ridge
Ic
molten oasis
Also for sub
How often does that even come into play
For Ursa
I get it for Pagos
bold geode
Awesome! I literally just threw a master ball at it and that happened XD
Nice
You love to see it
molten oasis
Soak tatsu with Mirai, funnnnmm
shadow wind
I would not use thunder if I were you
Doesn't become 100% guaranteed under gravity if sun is up
cyan smelt
no protect is yikes
shadow wind
And that
astral kelp
Doesn't become 100% guaranteed under gravity if sun is up
i have like 2 gravity setters
astral kelp
no protect is yikes
gravity added o7
shadow wind
Not gravity
shadow wind
Well in the sun thunder becomes 50% accurate
shadow wind
So it only becomes 83% accurate in sun and with gravity
Essentially Pblade again
Not sure
But it's the same with Hurricane as well
astral kelp
what the fuck man
shadow wind
Iron hands is cool
molten oasis
Dawg I used to hate hands
shadow wind
He's funny
astral kelp
lol brute bonnet has 175 speed spore
shadow wind
Huh?
astral kelp
lol brute bonnet has 175 speed spore
350 speed spore with tailwind
that would be sooo unfun
shadow wind
How does he get 175 speed?
molten oasis
Iron hands
@bold geode
shadow wind
He's unable to get speed proto
molten oasis
Is it literally impossible?
shadow wind
Yup
molten oasis
Cool
shadow wind
His atk will always be 1 higher
molten oasis
Gf balanced something
shadow wind
Even with timid and 0 atk ivs
cyan smelt
is that why he's so broken
shadow wind
They sure did
astral kelp
max evs with protosynttesis
astral kelp
He's unable to get speed proto
wait
shadow wind
How are you getting speed proto
astral kelp
nvm
molten oasis
Almost 1500
shadow wind
astral kelp
its so close
shadow wind
It's literally one point off
molten oasis
Balanced, as all things should be
shadow wind
Can always give it scarf
shadow wind
Gives it a 1.5x speed booster from scarf
But no it wouldn't give it the 1.5x speed boost from proto
It's why people can run specs Flutter and still have speed proto
astral kelp
But no it wouldn't give it the 1.5x speed boost from proto
if youre rtunning sun
astral kelp
But no it wouldn't give it the 1.5x speed boost from proto
ahhh i see
shadow wind
I feel like brute bonnet is like the only paradox mon that should run a defense booster
But also brute bonnet can hit harder than Pao
So who knows
astral kelp
lol
shadow wind
Ew
shadow wind
Yikes
astral kelp
is he?
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
astral kelp
oh shit hes zoomy
astral kelp
i have 2 gravity setetrs
i click precipice blades the ONE TIME i dont have gravity up
shadow wind
Don't need to tell me
astral kelp
Lol anyways
astral kelp
I feel like 85% chance isn't right or is it just me?
shadow wind
Nah when I played I actually kept track and it was like 75% accurate for me
Let me find the ancient texts(Google sheets)
astral kelp
Supposedly a 2% chance to miss both but I miss both half the time 💀
shadow wind
There we are
Worst I ever had was a double double miss into a single hit
So 5 straight misses
But that's behind me
Gravity is definitely understandable
But I actually really liked Gravity with Bronzong
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
dense latch
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2307374765-y9meeshkaiuyhh2i6jqm0q8enwjld7npw i love eleki
cyan smelt
Thought it was gonna be soak tatsu and miraidon for a second
molten oasis
Thought it was gonna be soak tatsu and miraidon for a second
i just ran into that today, i was not happy
252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Tera-Stellar Chien-Pao Helping Hand Ice Spinner (1st Use) vs. 44 HP / 4 Def Tera-Fairy Miraidon: 188-222 (103.8 - 122.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
molten oasis
man i could have just done that
dense latch
pao does not fuck around damn
left bobcat
Meowscrada doesn’t either
molten oasis
i like totoally won t1 if i did that man
left bobcat
Double sucker punch
dense latch
252 Atk Choice Band Protean Meowscarada Triple Axel (3 hits) vs. 44 HP / 4 Def Miraidon: 278-330 (153.5 - 182.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
thas funny
left bobcat
Yeah yeah yeah
molten oasis
244+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera-Fairy Miraidon Electro Drift vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Meowscarada in Electric Terrain: 165-195 (108.5 - 128.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO l+ratio+electric terrain+specs+electro drift
244+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Dazzling Gleam vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Meowscarada: 204-242 (134.2 - 159.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO also
shadow wind
Bro got ratio’d 😭😭😭
dense latch
252 Atk Choice Band Protean Meowscarada Triple Axel (3 hits) vs. 44 HP / 4 Def ...
give the cat a sash
molten oasis
misses
dense latch
miraidon gets short circuit
left bobcat
Mario kart circuit
molten oasis
miraidon gets short circuit
thats not how that works
ok meowscarada gets a brain aneurysm
dense latch
thats not how that works
yea i dont like physics
left bobcat
Just sash stellar overgrow sword of ruin flower trick
dense latch
just sounded right idk
dense latch
252+ Atk Overgrow Sword of Ruin Tera-Stellar Meowscarada Flower Trick (1st Use) vs. 44 HP / 4 Def Tera-Fairy Miraidon in Grassy Terrain on a critical hit: 302-356 (166.8 - 196.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
left bobcat
Because the other cat
dense latch
252+ Atk Overgrow Tera-Stellar Meowscarada Helping Hand Flower Trick (1st Use) vs. 44 HP / 4 Def Miraidon in Grassy Terrain on a critical hit: 171-202 (94.4 - 111.6%) -- 68.75% chance to OHKO fuck it
left bobcat
But I feel like sun TERA FIRE +1 fire ivy cudgel is even deadlier
And if we add sword of ruin to the mix ITS OVER
I had like 3 of those things and that shit did like 52% on walking wake
cyan smelt
Why does miraidon do so much damage
molten oasis
multipliers
cyan smelt
Specs + terrain
molten oasis
stab, yep
cyan smelt
Oh right stab
molten oasis
1.5* 1.3 * 1.5 * 1.3
shadow wind
Yikes
molten oasis
oh my god
cyan smelt
Funny that all it took to make miraidon good was not running it with the mid violet paradoxes
dense latch
3.9x total
molten oasis
which is nuts
shadow wind
Stab 1.5x
Hadron engine 1.3333x
Choice specs 1.5x
Terrain boost 1.3x
molten oasis
oh right the terrain is 1.3 my bad
dense latch
imagine miraidon with old terrain boost
molten oasis
hm lets see how strong edrfit is
dense latch
maybe for the better
shadow wind
Cause it's 133 BP
dense latch
i wonder how much mirai does to a +6 spdef kyogre
shadow wind
well, the paradoxes except hands are pretty mid
Iron Jugulis
gentle cragBOT
Result: 380.250000
molten oasis
oh my lmao
shadow wind
i wonder how much mirai does to a +6 spdef kyogre
One billion
molten oasis
380 bp move
dense latch
244+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift (Super Effective) vs. +6 132 HP / 12 SpD Kyogre in Electric Terrain: 128-152 (66.6 - 79.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Leftovers recovery
helping hand does the job
shadow wind
Or tera electric
dense latch
244+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Tera-Electric Miraidon Electro Drift (Super Effective) vs. +6 132 HP / 12 SpD Kyogre in Electric Terrain: 171-203 (89 - 105.7%) -- 37.5% chance to OHKO
shadow wind
Hey he gets to spam CC
molten oasis
and weaken his defenses?
shadow wind
He's pretty fast
molten oasis
miraidon gets to do edrift with 0 drawback
shadow wind
Yeah...
dense latch
244+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Beads of Ruin Tera-Electric Miraidon Helping Hand Electro Drift (Super Effective) vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Squirtle in Electric Terrain: 2523-2970 (2120.1 - 2495.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO fuck the turtles
cyan smelt
Collision course
shadow wind
Collision mid
cyan smelt
At least koraidon can boost its speed
cyan smelt
Koraidon gets weather boost too
molten oasis
+6 Lv. 100 252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Beads of Ruin Tera-Electric Miraidon Helping Hand Battery Electro Drift (Super Effective) vs. -6 Lv. 1 0 HP 0 IVs / 0 SpD 0 IV Squirtle in Electric Terrain: 53451-16628 (485918.1 - 151163.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
cyan smelt
Koraidon gonna be so mid without tera
dense latch
+6 Lv. 100 252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Beads of Ruin Tera-Electric Mirai...
miraidon casually broke the damage limit and then went back
shadow wind
Koraidon gonna be so mid without tera
If they keep flutter yes
molten oasis
+6 Lv. 100 252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Beads of Ruin Tera-Electric Miraidon Helping Hand Battery Electro Drift (Super Effective) vs. -6 Lv. 1 0 HP 0 IVs / 0- SpD 0 IV Squirtle in Electric Terrain: 53451-16628 (485918.1 - 151163.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO
like it mattered lmao
shadow wind
Thank you
cyan smelt
Koraidon has no chance in any game with xerneas
shadow wind
I miss Xerneas
molten oasis
wouldnt that be the case with zacian tho?
zacian without tera does not give 2 shits about koraidon
shadow wind
Choice scarf flare blitz
dense latch
i hope the next gimmick gives every pokemon a fuck xerneas button
left bobcat
Yeah but we are in a Gen with Tera
molten oasis
Choice scarf flare blitz
who is running scarf koraidon lol
left bobcat
So Koraidon can get away with it
cyan smelt
They really did not think about what some of these mons are gonna do without tera lol, eg terapagos, ogerpon, koraidon
molten oasis
what about the fuck calyrex button
molten oasis
They really did not think about what some of these mons are gonna do without ter...
well kommo-o exists
shadow wind
And he's mid
molten oasis
koraidon will manage with its typing
molten oasis
even with the typing being worse i think its still better than groudon
cyan smelt
Has there ever been a 4x weak legendary before
left bobcat
What if-
molten oasis
LUNALA
cyan smelt
Oh right
molten oasis
SHADOW RIDER
molten oasis
ho oh is def the oldest one
shadow wind
In the same gen as Tyranitar
dense latch
252 SpA Flutter Mane Draining Kiss vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Koraidon: 180-216 (102.2 - 122.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO one kiss and bro folds koraidon just like me :))
molten oasis
252 SpA Flutter Mane Draining Kiss vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Koraidon: 180-216 (102.2 - ...
lmfao
shadow wind
252 SpA Flutter Mane Draining Kiss vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Koraidon: 180-216 (102.2 - ...
Muah
shadow wind
I hate tera
dense latch
I love tera
left bobcat
I feel like after this gen without Tera it’s gonna feel weird
molten oasis
as boring as that is
dense latch
i kinda wanna experience a gen without a gimmick
one of the only formats i played in swsh was series 10
shadow wind
It ruins the one fundamental principle that I have engrained in my brain
dense latch
they banned dynamax so it was basically a gimmick less format
left bobcat
I will no longer be able to Tera fairy my weaknesses
shadow wind
I want Z-moves back
molten oasis
honestly what is the next gimmick supposed to be
shadow wind
I like item gimmicks
shadow wind
Mega stones and Z crystals were peak
left bobcat
Normal gem hyper beam
molten oasis
so you like mega's and zmoves
dense latch
honestly what is the next gimmick supposed to be
they might just recycle megas
shadow wind
🙏
molten oasis
idk how mega's are gonna work with things like mirai zac zama being around
dense latch
i really don't know what else they can do that is both interesting and marketable enough
molten oasis
in a way zac and zama are megas
shadow wind
Lowkey
molten oasis
shadow wind
It's like Mega ray
dense latch
like what other flashy stuff can they add to pokemon battles
dense latch
we got big moves
big pokemon
cool ass pokemon
crystal pokemon
shadow wind
How about balancing some mons
molten oasis
what about small pokemon
shadow wind
Wait that's a stupid idea
molten oasis
How about balancing some mons
you know this is a good idea
shadow wind
what about small pokemon
Mukmaxxing
molten oasis
for us, not for game freak
dense latch
what about small pokemon
dynamin
molten oasis
game freak thinks balance is bad and we need to make things broken
unironically i think the next thing is either repeating mega's or doing fusions
shadow wind
Well why would we but new games if they make the restricteds bad
molten oasis
probably limited fusions but fusions
dense latch
probably limited fusions but fusions
this would be sick
molten oasis
Well why would we but new games if they make the restricteds bad
you're so right
left bobcat
THE TRUE DRAGON
molten oasis
that would be so cool
shadow wind
KYUREM OMEGA
dense latch
i'd like the idea of fusing pokemon mid battle so there's like a drawback
molten oasis
i wanna see what that is
left bobcat
with an ability that negates fairy weakness
dense latch
you get a super strong mon but you battle with one less mon
shadow wind
Probably not
molten oasis
ik dozo exists but dozo gets a fat stat boost
left bobcat
If flutter is still gonna be around then probably not
dense latch
yea fair enough
left bobcat
Mhm Nair enough
molten oasis
i think it would be out of battle fusions but then they cant have an item or smth
shadow wind
Mhm Nair enough
Give me an upair that spikes
left bobcat
I wonder what that will look like
molten oasis
i hate calyrex
dense latch
ice horse :))
molten oasis
i genuinely hate CSR more
dense latch
shadow horse >:((
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ice rider players that beat me are usually pretty good
left bobcat
Ice cream
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so its like, yea i lost but i played worse, CSR can kinda jsut get wins because at times
not having speed control or a defensive dark type feels like an auto loss into it
left bobcat
Sometimes I just like to go hyper offensive
Like what if just attack
Shadow rider is perfect for that
molten oasis
wdyt pao does lol
dense latch
i could never get into HO
left bobcat
That’s what the sash is for
dense latch
idk what you'd call my current team
left bobcat
Basically I just wanna click and not think about it
molten oasis
well i mean https://pokepast.es/3fdab455fb228720 would yall call this hyper offense?
left bobcat
We just ball
molten oasis
i might just be a hyper offense player lol
dense latch
that looks kinda HO to me
left bobcat
Eh
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like
there is a balance aspect with taunt and follow me ogerpon but i could see it as both tbh
if i went av bolt i'd say its more balance
dense latch
it's probably just like a bulky-ish offense team with some balance aspects
but it also comes down to like how you pilot the team
molten oasis
true
dense latch
like are you just going for tailwind and hoping to overwhelm the opponent in those turns
molten oasis
no
i play to position zacian in a spot where it can win the game
or whatever needs to win the game
shadow wind
Guys life has been so boring without VGC
molten oasis
come back
shadow wind
Showdown might be getting opened again 😔
dense latch
go gambling
molten oasis
dont play shitmons lol
dense latch
go gambling
you were kinda already doing this with groudon i guess
molten oasis
Which means I need to play a fun guy
molten oasis
aww i was hoping to get someone to join the zacian gang
shadow wind
Nah I like being able to kill Incin
molten oasis
still a solo thing ig (im playing kyogre rn lol)
molten oasis
172 Atk Sword of Ruin Tera-Stellar Zacian-Crowned Close Combat (1st Use) vs. 244 HP / 196+ Def Incineroar: 190-224 (94.5 - 111.4%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO eat shit
molten oasis
molten oasis
how does one play 18 games in 30 sedonds
left bobcat
Guys life has been so boring without VGC
Life has been amazing without vgc
molten oasis
okay so you havent actually quit
shadow wind
I did, until today !
shadow wind
I ran away like a coward
left bobcat
My bro is getting married and I’ve been hanging out getting hammered with the guys
molten oasis
i take like 4 day breaks lol
molten oasis
My bro is getting married and I’ve been hanging out getting hammered with the gu...
married? never heard of her
molten oasis
(i have to break this social anxiety shell its so bad)
molten oasis
Like an old friend
real
shadow wind
I think 16-2 is a pretty good record for now
molten oasis
interesting
cyan smelt
nasty plot incin with heat wave
shadow wind
I'll admit that was also me
left bobcat
I’ll never forget seeing that
molten oasis
you're not chi yu bro
shadow wind
I was the nasty plot Incineroar 😔
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
molten oasis
80 special attack thats ass, you'd hit like as hard as a weaker special attacker
well ig a9 exists
dense latch
burning jealousy incin was a thing in swsh i remember
molten oasis
yea i was like "remember specs blizzard a9"
shadow wind
Anyway, I've moved past that
molten oasis
time to use reletively normal things
molten oasis
wow this looks really annoying
left bobcat
time to use reletively normal things
Where’s the pun in all that
molten oasis
so it seems fine
shadow wind
I made a single rule for myself
shadow wind
No raging bolt
cyan smelt
neckkkkkkkkk
molten oasis
look at him in all his majestic glory
left bobcat
…
shadow wind
I will prove Groudon can be used without that long neck loser
left bobcat
Mmmmmmmm
dense latch
what did raging bolt do
left bobcat
Not the way I remember
shadow wind
No clue what you're talking about
Like actually I have no clue I'm not being sarcastic
molten oasis
the gouging fire groudon team
shadow wind
Hmm that one
molten oasis
nvm it did
shadow wind
I was thinking of a different team
dense latch
why jug over moon btw
shadow wind
Snarl
dense latch
snarl?
btw i was trying to get that question before you answered snarl im not questioning the decision
shadow wind
As well as air slash is great for Ursh
shadow wind
btw i was trying to get that question before you answered snarl im not questioni...
Nah I know
Can't really use Acro with Groudon
dense latch
i don't get the grasspon tho
molten oasis
i dont either grasspon mid
shadow wind
I like the fast encore and bullet seed breaks sashes
molten oasis
so what happens when pao clicked ice spinner and you explode
shadow wind
Tera grass bullet seed ‼️
molten oasis
but then tera stellar sucker punch (i doubt this kills)
shadow wind
Usually they run tera ghost don't they?
molten oasis
some do some dont
shadow wind
Fair
molten oasis
ghost is normal but stellar isnt super out there
shadow wind
I could even run adamant on the Oger I'm now realizing
But that might make me too reliant on the tera speed boost
dense latch
252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Tera-Stellar Chien-Pao Sucker Punch (1st Use) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Ogerpon: 128-152 (82 - 97.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
shadow wind
🙏
molten oasis
252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Tera-Stellar Chien-Pao Sucker Punch (1st Use) vs. 76 HP / 44 Def Ogerpon: 122-144 (73.9 - 87.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
damn
dense latch
252 Atk Tera-Grass Ogerpon Bullet Seed (4 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Tera-Stellar Chien-Pao: 136-160 (87.7 - 103.2%) -- 0.29% chance to OHKO
molten oasis
156+ Atk Ogerpon Helping Hand Bullet Seed (4 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Tera-Stellar Chien-Pao: 148-180 (95.4 - 116.1%) -- 97.22% chance to OHKO damn 4 hits guarantees wtf
shadow wind
If Grasspon is selling games I will kill it
dense latch
you need to hope for the 5 hits tho
molten oasis
wait why is ti helping hand tf
156+ Atk Ogerpon Bullet Seed (5 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Tera-Stellar Chien-Pao: 125-155 (80.6 - 100%) -- <0.01% chance to OHKO
okay so what happens when you get ice spinnered and die?
shadow wind
Tera !!
shadow wind
And then I'll even outspeed !!!
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
molten oasis
damn it cant miss
shadow wind
Yeah yeah
dense latch
156+ Atk Ogerpon Bullet Seed (5 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Tera-Stellar Chien-Pao: 1...
i've never seen <0.01% chance to OHKO damn
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
shadow wind
The Zama MU sucks by the way
molten oasis
i figured
molten oasis
i think my kyogre team's mu into it also sucks
shadow wind
If the Zama MU stays bad I'mma need some sacred sword play
Or Ogerpon dies
I just desperately needed a water resist
Walking wake
Hmm
shadow wind
Itsa a walkin wake
dense latch
I just desperately needed a water resist
there's this long necked individual
molten oasis
he said no bolt
shadow wind
How does that beat Zama 😔
dense latch
with some rage
molten oasis
How does that beat Zama 😔
tbolt spam
shadow wind
Ice spinner
molten oasis
if they tera dragon click draco
well you gotta get rid of pao first lol
which you can, you have ogerpon
dense latch
he said no bolt
i wanted to try and convince him somehow
shadow wind
Well Ogerpon would be the one getting replaced
There will be zero convincing
I am refusing that long neck weirdo
shadow wind
He did
molten oasis
like what
dense latch
tclap tclap tclap tclap
molten oasis
shadow wind
Be used with Calyrex Ice
molten oasis
hes perfect in every way
shadow wind
And run 252 timid
molten oasis
Be used with Calyrex Ice
he gets used with everyone
dense latch
Be used with Calyrex Ice
flutter is used with caly ice too
shadow wind
Like actually how does it outspeed Groudon EVERY TIME
molten oasis
how much invest does groudon have?
dense latch
also poor ice horse
molten oasis
poor ice horse? more like fuck ice horse
shadow wind
I outspeed Jolly Incin
dense latch
):
molten oasis
ok why are bolts that fast lol
molten oasis
were they lorb sets?
shadow wind
Yeah
molten oasis
then that why they run max max
shadow wind
So they got the speed, the lorb, and the proto
molten oasis
i mean i run lorb bolt but i have bulk
dense latch
bolt did this to me with no off tera
shadow wind
😭
dense latch
this is NOT healthy for my horse
molten oasis
oh yea
some random kyogre ate guts boosted facade today
252+ Atk Guts Ursaluna Facade (140 BP) vs. 236 HP / 0 Def Kyogre: 226-267 (110.2 - 130.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
meaing that thing was BULKY
molten oasis
252+ Atk Guts Ursaluna Facade (140 BP) vs. 236 HP / 252 Def Kyogre: 177-208 (86.3 - 101.4%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO dude
why is that kyogre max hp max defense
shadow wind
For fun
shadow wind
I was thinking about that but double choice item lead seems like cancer
And also triple dark
AND he's weak to water
Which the exact opposite of what I need
I might legit go Wake
Lorb wake hits pretty hard
dense latch
244 SpA Life Orb Walking Wake Flamethrower vs. 92 HP / 4 SpD Zamazenta-Crowned in Sun: 146-174 (81.5 - 97.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
molten oasis
true
dense latch
damn
molten oasis
he got crazy good stats
molten oasis
true
aw man, if i commit to this team i gotta go get a shiny ursa again
idiotically i think i traded my alpha ursa away
https://pokepast.es/3c803fe182c1d74a anyway BEAR
shadow wind
Now what if you did skill swap on Farig
molten oasis
no
molten oasis
lol that shit was on the spot
im not playing skill swap i like when my teams work consistently
shadow wind
Wasn't sure what tera
molten oasis
fire usually
molten oasis
whats the 36 hp for
shadow wind
Lorb chip
molten oasis
ah
molten oasis
draco damage is really funny
shadow wind
It really is
molten oasis
but pulse doesnt chunk your spa so just test
shadow wind
Yeah
I'll try tera fire for now
I have seen tera grass tera blast before
But that was kind of a weird set
I really like the fast snarl Jugs provides
Helps against so many restricteds
And it also forces a tera against CSR
cyan smelt
why am i watching a game where someone is using terrakion
cyan smelt
no like next to calyrex shadow