competitive_discussion

[opal trout]

He threw by not attacking the CIR

[solid frigate]

the fact he can just protect

but eh

[opal trout]

He did his weird smile again

[solid frigate]

he can just protect and pray for Power Whip miss

if he miss he can kill CIR and Ogerpon can't take both

[balmy glen]

I’m out worst tour I’ve ever had but I’ll bounce back in the future. No more Zama for me this is definitely my last Zama tour lol

[real prairie]

Sorry to hear it mate, you'll get em next time

[chrome knot]

wanna hop on cir with me for Vanc?

[real prairie]

Ludicolo always needs more representatives

[bold geode]

@chrome knot DO YOU WANNA BE LEGENDARY

[chrome knot]

no i wanna be home from work so i can watch!!!!

[real prairie]

i really do like that song lol

[chrome knot]

i love victory road

[bold geode]

TRUE
Better flip those burgers in a legendary way

@twin kindle ITS TIME TO BE LEGENDARY

@forest arrow DO YOU WANNA BE LEGENDARY

Aww it's over
No more being legendary

Legendary time is over

[foggy lodge]

Sorry for the result, I'm sure you can bounce back, you are great

Did Zama feel that rough?

[bold geode]

Damn we lost a soldier today

[foggy lodge]

btw who is William Brown? I've searched info about him but nothing really big appers

[real prairie]

Oooo a newbie

[foggy lodge]

And he suddenly made top 8 at San antonio, Mérida and is 6-0 rn

[bold geode]

Umm
New guy?

[foggy lodge]

Its really impressive then

2 top 8 back to back and secured day 2

[plain drum]

Don't make eye contact

[bold geode]

Are you there Max?

[foggy lodge]

No lol

Someone else posted it on another server

[bold geode]

I see

[foggy lodge]

I wish i could go to an IC

[bold geode]

GET A CUP OF TEA

YUCK BRITISH PEOPLE

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 230: Kingdra

Types

Water/Dragon

Abilities

Swift Swim, Sniper, Damp (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/95/95/95/95/85

Total

540

Sableye version 4.28.1

[foggy lodge]

Thanks gen 2

[forest arrow]

IVE BEEN LEGENDARY

[mint void]

People. I need a Clayrex Ice Resist that doesnt lose to OgerponH

Emboar mentioned

[foggy lodge]

We have Pokemon ASMR huh

[bold geode]

@calm gulch

heavy breathing

[real prairie]

erm....

[bold geode]

What the goon

Apparently Wolfe v Marco is happening again LMFAO

Fuck it

WOLFEY CON PERISH

[opal trout]

That will be interesting

Hopefully it will be streamed

[mint void]

WOLFEY CON PERSIH?

[foggy lodge]

I was thinking "oh but this is actually a cool team" and i realised that's a Luvdisc

[opal trout]

Luvdisc meta

[real prairie]

swiftswim Icywind lol

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 370: Luvdisc

Type

Water

Abilities

Swift Swim, Hydration (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

43/30/55/40/65/97

Total

330

Sableye version 4.28.1

[gentle crag]

Result: 326.000000

Result: 307.500000

[real prairie]

faster than Booster Flutter ROFL

[opal trout]

But is it worth it

Flutter can provide more support and offence to the team

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/absolutely-fucking-not-no-not-leonardo-dicaprio-absolutely-no-gif-15122161

[opal trout]

Than luvdisc

[real prairie]

but funny that it outspeed and can lower its speed

[placid mist]

Wolfe is gonna win

[real prairie]

based on their teams, yeah

[opal trout]

marco’s team is quite strong

But koraidon does get a damage boost against Terapagos

[real prairie]

marco's team requires either set up or switches.

[opal trout]

Actually Koraidon can do a lot of damage to Terapagos Incineroar and Rillaboom

[real prairie]

not that they can switch them

[foggy lodge]

Tang on stream

[opal trout]

Wolfe is probably going to win

[foggy lodge]

I wonder is he changed something about the team

[bold geode]

What match we watching

[opal trout]

Justin tang

[bold geode]

Oh I see

[opal trout]

Vs tomoyuki yoshimura

[bold geode]

It's cold outside
@forest arrow let's cuddle

[plain drum]

Just use a sun team smh

[foggy lodge]

Marco can win his match against wolfey actually

The tera fairy Heatran is good into Koraidon

[opal trout]

Another Zamazenta :o

[real prairie]

the teams are getting very boring now

[dense latch]

tomoyuki is SNOW right?

[foggy lodge]

Justin has aqua jet instead of CC huh

[opal trout]

Slight change from San Antonio then

[real prairie]

2nd person to drop the fighting coverage today

[foggy lodge]

I don't like dropping CC tbh

But makes sense the change the team doesn't have any priority moves

[opal trout]

Another crunch Chien Pao

[foggy lodge]

Look how he is getting the crunch drop look look

Nvm

NOOOOOO

[opal trout]

Wow

[foggy lodge]

Zama is behemoth or heavy slam?

[opal trout]

H slam

[foggy lodge]

zzz

[opal trout]

I run bash because of the tang team lol

[foggy lodge]

I think that's what most zamas should do

Actually being able to punish some tera fairys on heavy mons like Raging bolt or CIR is great

Heatran maybe too i don't know how heavy it is

[opal trout]

I don’t know if I should have 4 atk evs on my Zamazenta or more

[foggy lodge]

4 atk is fine

[opal trout]

Now I have bash

[dense latch]

huge taunt from justin

[foggy lodge]

Holy

[dense latch]

it worked even if pao stays to prevent it from protecting

[foggy lodge]

0 damage

Spore taunt would also be good here no?

Switch urshifu and self pollen?

oh

oh

It woke up

[opal trout]

Still probably over

Tomoyuki will probably win game 1

[foggy lodge]

If there's a icicle miss there's a chance

Nah

[real prairie]

think he wins with a protect and aqua jet

[foggy lodge]

Rage powder dark pulse

gg

[real prairie]

ah right rage powder

[foggy lodge]

Or you go straight for the heat wave lol

Well if he misses heat wave

[real prairie]

OOOO

[foggy lodge]

no

[real prairie]

should have aqua jetted 😦

[opal trout]

Alr so if heat wave lands he wins

It hits

[real prairie]

what a play by Tomo

[foggy lodge]

Actually heat wave was kinda the right play

You cover the caly protect and guarantee the KO on urshifu

[dense latch]

it was kind of a 50/50 there if he goes for rage powder aqua jet loses him the game immediately

[foggy lodge]

Just the 10% chance of missing

[dense latch]

that icicle crash flinch turn one was rough

[foggy lodge]

Justin's only out is the miss

[real prairie]

was*

[foggy lodge]

that's a full def amoonguss right?

Body press hits harder here actually lol

[balmy glen]

I’ll decide on my new restricted after this week and let u know

[opal trout]

Tang not bringing his CIR is interesting

It worked though

[dense latch]

it does make a lot of sense to leave it behind if you’re going with the tailwind mode

[opal trout]

Yeah

[dense latch]

he didn’t bring cir to a set until round 5 according to him so he’s really comfortable leaving his restricted behind

[foggy lodge]

I would eat my teamsheet if i couldn't bring my restricted during 4 rounds

[chrome knot]

sounds good, just hmu if ur interested ill be around

[opal trout]

Justin has lost

[real prairie]

5/2 for Justin

[foggy lodge]

Its lorb Koraidon lmao

and also AAAAAAAAAAAAA

[mint void]

Yall already got Marcos Jumpluff?

[foggy lodge]

Paonite with Geezing

[real prairie]

This not being on stream is silly

[opal trout]

Yeah

Wolfe on stream :o

[mint void]

wolfey con perish strikes again

poor marco

[dense latch]

feel like they should’ve streamed wolfe vs marco and stream a round 8 win or go home game

[opal trout]

If he looses he is out

[foggy lodge]

https://vxtwitter.com/nishantaj/status/1892892404383940821?t=79C4R97hTzxKwyFPdWdQMA&s=19

@bold geode maybe you didn't fight wolfey actually sorry lol

[opal trout]

It’s time

His team is… interesting

[real prairie]

They never do it and it's stupid, so much more entertainment in a match for day 2 than 2 undefeated

[foggy lodge]

Tera bug Incin huh

[opal trout]

With protect

[real prairie]

No knock off

[foggy lodge]

Yeah but that's because is perish trap

Lol

[opal trout]

True

[foggy lodge]

CC Koraidon is something for sure

[real prairie]

What's the benefit over collision course?

[foggy lodge]

20 BP xd

[real prairie]

Lol

Is it an accuracy thing too?

Wolfe doesn't use anything other than 100%

[foggy lodge]

Collision doesn't miss

[opal trout]

Damn a crit

[foggy lodge]

And no wolfey doesn't really cares for accuracy

So idk it must be to nuke things that are neutral

Its lorb Koraidon

[real prairie]

Yeah I'm sure there's some specific calc

[foggy lodge]

He won with only the lead

Rough

[real prairie]

Wolfe got murdered

[opal trout]

Wolfe didn’t even manage to kill one of his Pokemon

[foggy lodge]

Good read

[sharp cobalt]

Wolfe lost? To who

[foggy lodge]

Lost in round 6 against josh bullivant

Now he Lost game 1 against Gennaro

[sharp cobalt]

Aw

[foggy lodge]

Sun boosted flare blitz should kill calyrex

[opal trout]

This is going much better for him compared to game 1

[foggy lodge]

oh

Burn let's go

[opal trout]

Not even 50% lol

Wolfe can win from here

[mint void]

Caly only gets 1 more move

ok nvm it has DK so probs more

[real prairie]

Ngl I hate Wolfe waiting for the time out

[dense latch]

those seconds are probably used to think on game three

[molten oasis]

Oh he took perish trap

Man I’m so excited to fight this on ladder

[foggy lodge]

We all need the motivation of drago everytime a new team comes out

[molten oasis]

You’re so right bro

Anyway im gonna go play rivals

Half the new teams that come out look pretty annoying from my perspective tho, so uh, yeah I’ll complain everytime especially cuz I play bo1 ladder

[opal trout]

This doesn’t look great for Wolfe

[mint void]

mid

[opal trout]

And I take that back

[real prairie]

It's not max speed

[opal trout]

It’s amazing for him

[mint void]

yeah obviously not

[real prairie]

Damn

[mint void]

Flutter was outspeeding it without boost

[real prairie]

Ah missed that

[sharp cobalt]

Or is Wolfe not out

[mint void]

nah looking good rn

Its like torn and Rilla vs 4

[foggy lodge]

Holy shit that was not full speed CSR

[mint void]

did yall watch round 2?

[opal trout]

It must be really slow

[opal trout]

Yeah

Gennaro has basically no damage left

[mint void]

gg

[real prairie]

Missed a chunk of it sorting bits

[opal trout]

Wolfe wins!

[mint void]

Emboar lover

cant lose

[sharp cobalt]

My brother when I tell him Wolfe was losing badly: 'yea cuz Wolfe only uses gimmicks'

[real prairie]

I'm wondering what reasoning there was for no max speed

[mint void]

Mega Emboar ZA would sell it to me

[sharp cobalt]

Perish trap isn't a gimmick tho, is it

[foggy lodge]

Its a gimmick

[mint void]

it is lol

[foggy lodge]

But its wolfey's gimmick

[mint void]

hes the only one using it like ever

[opal trout]

Tr CSR 💀

[foggy lodge]

Wolfey is the only person who wins with perish trap

[mint void]

I have faced Room Service CSR

[molten oasis]

perish trap is a gimmick in everyone's hands except wolfe

[sharp cobalt]

Sounds good, time to use it on ladder

[foggy lodge]

Well its 4 rounds for tomorrow

I hope he makes top cut

[mint void]

why didnt we hear from dillon today?

[foggy lodge]

Diego Ferreira lost

Alcremie was not strong enough

[molten oasis]

there was an alcremie? thats cool

CIR alcremie stuff?

[foggy lodge]

Yeah hard TR

[sharp cobalt]

Whats it do? Decorate?

[foggy lodge]

I want his OTS maybe i use Alcremie CIR for the GC lmao

[molten oasis]

ah, interesting

[foggy lodge]

Decorate Calyrex or Ursaluna and its ability prevents sleep and taunt

[sharp cobalt]

Understandable

[foggy lodge]

But i think overall Smeargle is better

[sharp cobalt]

Ive a question

If you have a future/ancient mon use its booster energy and then change its ability, do they lose the boost?

[real prairie]

The smeagle decorate sets seem better

Offers fake out, wide guard and spore

[foggy lodge]

I think they can't change their abilities

[sharp cobalt]

Even through entrainment?

Also

[foggy lodge]

Its ability can be deactivated by neutralizing gas but not changed

[foggy lodge]

Oh sorry lol

[sharp cobalt]

Huh.

[foggy lodge]

Id have to see the interaction after activating booster and weezing switching in

[sharp cobalt]

Maybe twasn't updated yet?

[foggy lodge]

Oh

Or maybe im wrong i remember proto/quark not being able to be traded

The game later updated those abilities by a interaction of neutralizing gas, maybe that also changed it?

Or im just misremembering

[sharp cobalt]

It doesn't say

[opal trout]

Did marco silva not make it to day 2?

[foggy lodge]

Uhhh idk let me check

[sharp cobalt]

Surprisingly, Im not finding a reddit post about the interaction either

[real prairie]

He still could have done if he won the game after Wolfe

[opal trout]

He probably did win but I’m not sure

[mint void]

give me an SD name and we try it

[sharp cobalt]

SD?

[left bobcat]

SD?

Self destruct?

[mint void]

@left bobcat i know that u know

[left bobcat]

I do?

[sharp cobalt]

[mint void]

Ur ADHD goes harder than mine. I give up

[mint void]

Showdown

ShowDown

[sharp cobalt]

Mine, yours, or Flacks?

[mint void]

Flackos goes harder than mine

Idk abt u

[sharp cobalt]

Same, I dont even have the diagnosis

[left bobcat]

Ohhhhh

[sharp cobalt]

Oh that reminds me

[fallow palm]

hi can somone make me a starter pvp team

[foggy lodge]

Teams are up let's go

https://www.pokedata.ovh/standingsVGC/0000135/masters/

@molten oasis congrats lorb pao made day 2

[real prairie]

Marco Silva is Italian?

[foggy lodge]

Yeh lol

[real prairie]

Thought he was from somewhere in South America

He made day 2 for whomever it was that was asking

[dense latch]

ELEKI 7-1 😭

im so happy

[molten oasis]

oh neat

[real prairie]

Archaludon + Bascul went 7-1

[foggy lodge]

What if you play this drago

[molten oasis]

what the hell is that

[real prairie]

Sneasler 7-1 too

[foggy lodge]

holy

[dense latch]

rayquaza made day 2

[molten oasis]

oh i found the flutter yu bandaid zac team lol

[foggy lodge]

Rhydon too

[real prairie]

Rayquaza 6-2

[calm gulch]

just your type

[opal trout]

It was me

[real prairie]

Slowbro alarm!!!!

6-2

Iron treads too

[opal trout]

They didn’t cook

[real prairie]

Araquanid gastrodon team too

[opal trout]

I don’t think I’ve ever see a swampert in doubles

[real prairie]

Some fun teams in day 2

[opal trout]

Wait the arbok team made day 2

[foggy lodge]

No

I saw it on the 3-5 😭

[real prairie]

Fuck me an Empoleon

[opal trout]

If it did tho 😭

[foggy lodge]

Man

[opal trout]

Who lost to it 😭

[foggy lodge]

Me

[opal trout]

Rip

[opal trout]

That looks fairly standard, except for the slowbro

[real prairie]

A Magnemite went 0-5 🤣

[opal trout]

Found a gargancl team

[real prairie]

A ton of people dropped out on 0-1 or 0-2

[dense latch]

no way

6-2 or 7-1?

[foggy lodge]

6-2

[sharp cobalt]

Love the Arbok

[dense latch]

format?

[opal trout]

Who lost to this? 😭

It went 1-7

[foggy lodge]

Also me sorry

[dense latch]

maybe a bye

yea or maxi

[foggy lodge]

Why am i seeing a spiritomb and an arboliva down there

[sharp cobalt]

Arboliva, my beloved

[dense latch]

o yea i saw it too

idk what roseli berry does icl

[foggy lodge]

Fairy moves

[dense latch]

is it one of the damage reducing ones

[foggy lodge]

I saw it one the GC

[fallow palm]

doubles 🙂

[sharp cobalt]

Huh.

[molten oasis]

man these sure are teams

[dense latch]

any restricted you like?

[fallow palm]

my fav pokemon is goldengho

[mint void]

what are u looking at?

Oh ok we all asked the same question

Id say pick one of those(ignore the tiers its not based on how good they are)

[fallow palm]

groudon?

[mint void]

sure

[fallow palm]

but can you add gholdengo?

[mint void]

imma see if I find sth

https://pokepast.es/cda13f7d936222d3

Bit outdated probs but there u go

[real prairie]

Pikachu missed out on day 2 by 1 win

[mint void]

@fallow palmor this with Miraidon https://pokepast.es/135736ebc090bf6e
Top 8 Worlds

[foggy lodge]

@dense latch fola sabe cosas

Rising voltage raging cooks

[fallow palm]

dang

im just starrting the game

do you have any pvps?

[mint void]

you can check pins for more team.
wdym with PVPS?

[fallow palm]

like viable pokemon

i can use

like do you have a pvp gholdnego

[mint void]

probably

[fallow palm]

what for it?

[mint void]

Id love to but I cant help u sorry.

[dense latch]

toca tatuaje

@fallow palm https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1axlwmzPA49rYkqXh7zHvAtSP-TKbM0ijGYBPRflLSWw/edit#gid=418553327

you can try some of the teams here from the regulation g section

[mint void]

you can start with playing on showdown: https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/teambuilder while getting ur stuff ready in game

[dense latch]

idk if you’ll find any gholdengo but there’s some strong groudon teams there

[mint void]

I found one

[fallow palm]

same

[left bobcat]

Finally made it to my hotel room

[dense latch]

https://tenor.com/view/kendrick-lamar-u-screaming-in-the-hotel-room-tpab-tpab-poem-to-pimp-a-butterfly-gif-4005569222539385807

[mint void]

lmk if u want to exlore some more Im kinda eh rn so yeah if u need help with sum. Also check out the pins in this channel, especially about EVing

these dont look to bad no?

[foggy lodge]

I fought something similar in a tournament yesterday

It looks fine

[dense latch]

yea seems pretty standard

normal zama balance but volc over what would normally be chi yu

or entei in some cases

[left bobcat]

Bruh

[twin falcon]

@fallow palm shiny Enamorus is tradebanned, pls don't offer it here and check our #trading_rules

[chrome knot]

ur trade banned(!!) @twin falcon

[fallow palm]

oops i forgot

[fallow palm]

sorry

[twin falcon]

also pls use our trading channel for trades 🙏

[twin falcon]

I am definitely tradebanned

[chrome knot]

ur one of a kind

[fallow palm]

yea ok sorry

im new

[twin falcon]

nws

[twin falcon]

omg im blushing

we are all tradebanned now

[chrome knot]

annnnd we all explode

[twin falcon]

[real prairie]

Not a single Ludicolo @ EUIC

im both disheartened and relieved at the same time lol

[next stump]

no one mad enough

[next stump]

nothing better than having 8 rounds of swiss to watch when you get home from work/school

beautiful beautiful thing

[real prairie]

and you get to skip all the waffle in the middle

[fallow palm]

do you got a pvp gholdengho

[real prairie]

Ill have that tomorrow night after the stag-do

[real prairie]

ey? lol

if you are looking for a trade, then its #trading_sv

[fallow palm]

yea but im asking for

like the moveset

evs and item

[real prairie]

Oh, it isnt very good right now

also singles or doubles?

Does tera boosting damage to 60 count for priority moves?

[dense latch]

i don’t think it does

when you put it in the damage calc the bo boost will appear for moves like draining kiss and not aqua jet

[real prairie]

seemingly not, was looking into tera ice - Ice Shard Adamant Chien-Pao as a way to stop TW setters, but it doesn't quite hit hard enough

[foggy lodge]

gang which alcremie should i use

so many cute colors

[dense latch]

252+ Atk Mystic Water Tera-Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike Aqua Jet (60 BP) vs. 212 HP / 132 Def Flutter Mane: 118-140 (75.1 - 89.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO i changed aqua jet’s bp to 60 to simulate what it would be like

[dense latch]

one of the blue ones

[molten oasis]

Blue

[next stump]

seems you’re exactly right

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2305352927
holy kyurem just wipes

[real prairie]

pants

[astral kelp]

wtf

[next stump]

there are 181 masters playing day 2 swiss tomorrow

my 2nd ever VGC regional had like 200 players

the game’s growth is insane

[real prairie]

yeah mental

B'ham i think had 400 or something

[next stump]

and it would be even higher if they didn’t cap tournaments

[left bobcat]

Cap

[real prairie]

think it wont be long til they end up taking 2 halls with the growth of VGC

[dense latch]

imagine if this wasn’t the case and surging strikes was 180 bp + crit

actually no i dont want to imagine that

[real prairie]

so many of the players attending are still TCG which is what caps the VGC limit

[foggy lodge]

thoughts? https://pokepast.es/5ae33162c1f46e3a

[left bobcat]

Looks good

[dense latch]

what’s the heatran set gonna be

the magma storm zoom lens one?

[foggy lodge]

eh i saw that set

maybe something bulky lke sitrus or leftovers

[real prairie]

feel rock pon does better in CIR teams for Sturdy follow me

[dense latch]

wellspring is more common on hard tr

[foggy lodge]

yeah the spdef boost and good into urshifu sells it more for me for this team

[real prairie]

fair

[left bobcat]

Didn’t know Ogerpon can get sturdy

[real prairie]

you could go dual mode and run Booster coaching valiant too

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/the-more-you-know-gif-10358303

[foggy lodge]

mint is the blue alcremie right?

[left bobcat]

Thought it was green

Idk the alcremie colors

[dense latch]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2305296534-jr3i824w49b2n03b3qna65ffvucbygipw i love eleki

funny guy

waterpon and volc have been feeling like weak links for the team tho, im probably gonna switch to rockpon but idk what to do for volc

https://pokepast.es/075d7497c0f76594

[next stump]

farig

[dense latch]

yea i was honestly thinking of just switching back to the navjit six altogether

but i wanted to build something different and see how it went

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/9abc396fe8d2c184 guys do I go av or booster bolt over LORB here or nah?

[real prairie]

Someone took a Magnemite

[molten oasis]

Just debating

[foggy lodge]

so uh how do i make an alcremie

[real prairie]

Specs volt switch bolt

[molten oasis]

Hell no lol

[real prairie]

nah id probably go booster

[foggy lodge]

do i go room service?

[real prairie]

if you have to switch

[molten oasis]

I usually don’t but having the freedom to switch and not lose the boost is nice

[dense latch]

i like av better here

[foggy lodge]

like if i can't have TR alcremie is faster than one of my mons and i just have decorate and in TR alcremie moves first

[molten oasis]

Why exactly

[dense latch]

extra bulk

[molten oasis]

The suggestion has popped up, a lot, but I also like the damage it does

If that’s the only reason I’m not going av lol

[dense latch]

something that can tank an astral barrage easier

[real prairie]

Alcremie @ Power Band
Ability: Sweet Veil
Level: 50
Tera Type: Ghost

• Alluring Voice
• Decorate
• Protect
• Encore

[dense latch]

it basically opens up another move slot

for eweb, volt switch, snarl

i feel like the team has enough offense already

[molten oasis]

just lowers damage and feels worse into incin, which sucks

[real prairie]

this is one frrom a team that finished 8-3 in a tournament

https://pokepast.es/ad82be0b4ff03c4c

[molten oasis]

I have basically shifu, cuz I don’t want Zac out against incin unless it needs to be

[dense latch]

key word feel btw idk how it may work in practice

[molten oasis]

In practice having only shifu to rely on incin sucks

[real prairie]

you have Rain dance so you could go AV w/ Weather Ball

on RB

[molten oasis]

mm

[dense latch]

you could probably switch one of your walled by incin mons like hearthflame into something that can help against it maybe? or lean slightly into a more special attacking team

[molten oasis]

172+ SpA Raging Bolt Weather Ball (100 BP Water) vs. 236 HP / 124+ SpD Incineroar in Rain: 162-192 (81 - 96%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Sitrus Berry recovery it’s not bad damage

[dense latch]

but hearthflame seems really good here aside from incin stuff

[molten oasis]

I also like protect on bolt so idk

Everything being able to protect feels pretty good

[dense latch]

that’s fair

what’s the matchup into csr like for you

i feel like spamming astral barrages is free

[molten oasis]

Lead torn bolt t1 bleakwind tbolt CSR then pressure with tailwind tbolt

[molten oasis]

Yea the fix for that is playing incin and I’m not doing that

[real prairie]

dont get many sitrus berry incin anymore

[dense latch]

lol

[real prairie]

also are they usually that specially bulky?

[molten oasis]

I was looking at calcs not really the item

172+ SpA Raging Bolt Weather Ball (100 BP Water) vs. 244 HP / 52 SpD Incineroar in Rain: 190-224 (94.5 - 111.4%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

[real prairie]

172+ SpA Raging Bolt Weather Ball (100 BP Water) vs. 252 HP / 100 SpD Incineroar in Rain: 182-216 (90 - 106.9%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO

those are really bulky sets

[molten oasis]

I’d love astral barrage to feel less free

[real prairie]

so should cover you for the more physically bulky versions

[real prairie]

Tera normal lol

[molten oasis]

But I also think the mons I have here are good

[molten oasis]

On what

[real prairie]

no idea, i was kidding

[molten oasis]

Ohk lol

Uh, the only think that has me a bit against weather ball av is just

Volt switch/snarl would be better utility

[real prairie]

does WBall benefit you at all against sun teams 🤔

[dense latch]

drago any wide guarders you like?

[real prairie]

maybe if they have grass mons

[molten oasis]

Not really

[molten oasis]

Nope, not with zacian

The most replaceable mons on here are bolt and pao, shifu torn hearth Zac is really good

I hate peli for multiple reasons and I think the other wide guard guys are kinda mid

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 888: Zacian

Type

Fairy

Abilities

Intrepid Sword

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/120/115/80/115/138

Total

660

Other Formes

Zacian-Crowned

Sableye version 4.28.1

Pokémon No. 888: Zacian-Crowned

Types

Fairy/Steel

Abilities

Intrepid Sword

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/150/115/80/115/148

Total

700

Base Species

Zacian

Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

Zac eats Tera ghost specs astral barrage

But I can’t lead Zac into incin, which most CSR teams have

[dense latch]

drago was it you that tried roaring moon zacian i feel like i’ve seen that before

[real prairie]

what pressures zacian about incin other than fakeouts?

[molten oasis]

I was indeed the moon Zac guy

[dense latch]

you could do roaring moon instead of pao then free up the torn slot

[molten oasis]

Intimidate flare blitz wisp

[molten oasis]

Eh, tornshifu has felt strong and that makes the incin mu kinda ass

[real prairie]

flare blitz is rare now but the other 2, fair

[dense latch]

the extra slot could be used for something that helps into incin

[real prairie]

bring a defiant mon, discourage Incin i guess

maybe grasspon

[molten oasis]

I have close combat FOR incin but it’s for the position if it can get there

Grasping is not a great redirector for Zac

[real prairie]

mmhh true

[molten oasis]

And overlapping the fire kinda sucks for chi flutter teams

I have tried gapdos

It doesn’t do enough and needs a lot to work

I could go lando but Zac teams like having a dragon and I don’t like regidrago’s speed tier

…ig paonite could maybe work

But then the Mirai mu is weaker, hm

[real prairie]

scarf Annihilape?

[molten oasis]

Idt scarf coaching sets really work with Zac either

Coaching works when your Mon doesn’t get intim cycled

[real prairie]

was more thinking as a defiant deterrent and something with final gambit to blow something up if you really dont want it around

[molten oasis]

I guess, it’s not a bad idea ill keep it in mind

[real prairie]

they lead incin CSR you get a defiant boost to then threaten to OHKO both their mons

[molten oasis]

I think the 6 I have are fine tho

[molten oasis]

Are you really gonna lead incin CSR at that point tho?

[real prairie]

which is what you want, them to not do that loll

[molten oasis]

I’d argue that’s throwing lol

I’ll think about it ape has never felt good for me

[real prairie]

Ape is a mind game lol

have to always think about it

[molten oasis]

That’s what I don’t really love about it, playing that mind game sucks lol

[real prairie]

make it tera normal and really fuck with CSR

[molten oasis]

Uhhhh, I can try av weather ball for a bit I guess

[real prairie]

they want to go TW+CSR you still cook lol

[molten oasis]

Av snarl also seems fine

[real prairie]

its a shame normal Zacian is meh, clear amulet stuff haha

[molten oasis]

Yea lol

[dense latch]

how much does it do to csr btw

feel like the damage is secondary to the spatk drop but still

now that cloak csr is less common it would be really nice into it

[molten oasis]

It’s okay

Doesn’t kill but chunks

Also I know how to solve this

-8ball is av weather ball bolt the play

[gentle crag]

is av weather ball bolt the play
:8ball: Ask again later

[molten oasis]

-8ball now plz

[gentle crag]

now plz
:8ball: Better not tell you now

[molten oasis]

-8ball yes or no

[gentle crag]

yes or no
:8ball: It is certain

[molten oasis]

Ok

[real prairie]

Oooo what's James running?

[dense latch]

rain dance ursh is cool

[molten oasis]

Interesting

[real prairie]

One of his Ls was someone that finished 3-5, guess that's their highlight of EUIC lol

[dense latch]

trying to guess what calyrex form the player is using before clicking on it is getting harder and harder

[real prairie]

thats ice lol

wait its not LOL

hahaha good game

[dense latch]

thought this was something like kylan van severen’s worlds team but no

csr

[molten oasis]

British rillaboom

[real prairie]

You know the inspiration for Rillaboom right?

[molten oasis]

Remind me

[real prairie]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs2z7OA3XKI&ab_channel=AdvertCommercial

[molten oasis]

ITS OFF AN AD

That’s so funny

[real prairie]

Cadburys, britsh chocolate company, one of the most iconic adverts lol

Also a nod to british rock and roll

but the gorilla part is because of that advert

which BLEW UP over here

[molten oasis]

That’s awesome

[next stump]

it's so cool seeing japanese players go to events like EUIC

literally does nothing for their worlds invite iirc, just doing it for the love of the game (and money)

[foggy lodge]

if they get the top 4 they qualify + get the money

we all love money

[next stump]

does that only apply to internationals?

or can they get an invite from a regional

[foggy lodge]

yeah i think they also can

[timber falcon]

how does this fare against tailwind?

[foggy lodge]

but its not usual seeing japanese players at regionals so

[timber falcon]

im attempting to make a CSR team and was under the impression tailwind was a definite requirement

[molten oasis]

Somewhat is but CSR is the fastest mon in the format

You could probably get away with not having tailwind

[timber falcon]

how would you beat your mirror though

[real prairie]

thought only people from the region can attend a regional

[molten oasis]

That’s why you tend to need tailwind

lol

[real prairie]

as in EU for EU regionals, NA for NA regionals, LA for LA regionals etc

[timber falcon]

yeah thats what i was thinking, but it seems the team Dillion presented isnt exactly using a tr/tw speed support

[next stump]

if you're willing to fly out, you can attend other regions tourneys

[molten oasis]

positioning is improtant for mirrors

[real prairie]

Oh okay, didn't think you could if it was international

as much as i like that for Japanese players i dislike it in general, priority should go to people of that region IMO

[timber falcon]

true, i probably just have a skill issue lol

[timber falcon]

Dillion, is there a reason that youve gone for rain dance shifu with scarf?

i mean for whoever team that is

[dense latch]

that’s james baek’s euic team

[real prairie]

LOL

[dense latch]

lol

maybe the sun mu was rough

[timber falcon]

hopefully theres an interview which provides some insight soon

[real prairie]

icywind Clefairy too

[foggy lodge]

i think my next GC team looks good

[cyan smelt]

New parsrs just dropped

[next stump]

https://devoncorp.press/resources/the-release-of-pasrs-6

[real prairie]

What in the bulk is going on with that Whimmsicott https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2305405732

[molten oasis]

Oh nice

[timber falcon]

what is pasrs

actually, how do i use it?

[next stump]

make a copy of the sheet, put your paste in, and put your showdown replays in

it'll show you data related to your team and games

[timber falcon]

for free?

[next stump]

yeah

[timber falcon]

where has this been my entire comp journey

[astral kelp]

why is he going tera bug incineroar?>

ive literally never seen tera bug outside of that one gym leader lmao

[foggy lodge]

Resists ground and fighting

Tera bug iron hands won worlds 2024 lmao

[astral kelp]

thats craaazy

incin isnt even weak to those tho??

[real prairie]

Tera bug Archaludon had a niche for the same reason

In rain fire damage is halved and no sane person would target it with flying before the tera

[next stump]

yeah it is

[real prairie]

Fire weak to ground, dark weak to fighting

[astral kelp]

ohh i see

tera bug u-turn stab >:D

[molten oasis]

That technically doesn’t sound awful lol

[real prairie]

Well they don't usually run uturn but yes there is that option

If you wanted to run the OG AV incin set

[astral kelp]

yeah if you already have good ways to deal with amoongus you dont really need safety goggles

[next stump]

https://pokepast.es/9bbb3bc5176f41a1

slowbro in day 2?!

[real prairie]

Yeah I mentioned it earlier 😊 really cool to see

[next stump]

3 zacian in day 2

pog

[astral kelp]

holy shit zacian really??

slow bro heal pulse?

and volcarona

[dense latch]

what’s the niche? scald + regenerator seems pretty good but idk

[astral kelp]

interesting

[astral kelp]

looks good into urshifu rs

[next stump]

i think it's just a general urshifu + CIR wall

with the burn chance as well

[astral kelp]

scald is a crazy ability

[dense latch]

o yeah

i can see it being a pain to deal with as cir

[astral kelp]

whats it do to cir?

other than tank it

[next stump]

this was his schedule

[dense latch]

resists glacial lance and rocky helmet for hhp

scald has a chance to burn

[astral kelp]

yooo mienshao

[next stump]

3 CIR 2 Zama is probably as good as he could ask

[astral kelp]

regidrago mausehold

[next stump]

and of course he lost to the 2 CSR lmao

[astral kelp]

TINKATON???

whats aurelien COOKING

[dense latch]

that team has cooler picks honestly

[mint void]

I despise bo1 so much. Cba. If I dont have time for bo3 im not playing

[dense latch]

i’ve never seen gmoltres and iron moth in a cir team

a win away from day 2 damn

[next stump]

yeah that's tough

[mint void]

What does moth do in the team?

[dense latch]

did they have a win and in?

[next stump]

it's kinda wild how results oriented VGC scene is

it makes sense

[dense latch]

now im curious

[next stump]

but the difference between 6-2 and 5-3 is really really not that large and a team could be just as good

[dense latch]

honestly i’ve thought of gmoltres on cir

[chrome knot]

but its more numbers on the screen

[dense latch]

spread dark move is cool

[next stump]

lemme check his schedule

[chrome knot]

must mean better player

[next stump]

0-3 into 5-3 hahaha

legend

[dense latch]

oh shit lmao

that’s huge honestly

[next stump]

takes some crazy mental fortitude

[dense latch]

fr

[real prairie]

Don't remind me 😭

[next stump]

[chrome knot]

@next stump wanna help me with cir, im struggling to determine its best 5

[dense latch]

like not only not dropping after being 0-3 but winning 5 in a row?

mad respect

[next stump]

yeah i'd be happy to

[real prairie]

Respect for sticking around too

The amount of drop outs is outrageous

Some on 0-1

[dense latch]

yea top 512 got cp i think

[real prairie]

Wasting other competitors spots

[dense latch]

or that’s what i heard

[chrome knot]

lovely

ty ill be in touch in a little when euic concludes

[next stump]

40CP for top 512

which is really just pity points lol

[real prairie]

yeah but at 0-1 you aren't exactly out of it lol

[next stump]

oh for sure

just wanted to see what the amount was for top 512

oh wait that's for a regional mb

[real prairie]

whats the highest SpDef common Urshifu sets run?

[molten oasis]

108/180 probably

Lives 252+ tclap

[real prairie]

180SpDef? Jeez

[rustic mountain]

its sp def sucks

[foggy lodge]

tang run 204/4

[foggy lodge]

see guys urshifu is not broken just kill it with special moves skill issue gg

/jk

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

Yea guys amoonguss sucks it has poor attack stats

Must be a bad mon

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

Stop auto correcting to mom man

[rustic mountain]

lmao

[mighty stump]

Amoonguss is a bad mother

smh

[molten oasis]

Ong lmao

[mighty stump]

Bro why is working so hard

Why it gotta take up my time and energy

can I just clone mtself

[molten oasis]

Gotta pay the bills man

[rustic mountain]

if only

[cobalt tapir]

[molten oasis]

Or be a streamer then you get to play games all day instead

[mighty stump]

Ew mod

Staff sux 11!!1!!1!1!

[cobalt tapir]

ew u

[rustic mountain]

damn im prolly like great ball 6 on cart rn lmao i havent played in so long

[cobalt tapir]

i ban

[gentle crag]

[molten oasis]

(This is in fact quite hard to achieve I wouldnt suggest it lmao)

[cobalt tapir]

ok bye

[foggy lodge]

gang the Rhydon from EUIC is 7-1 lol

[mighty stump]

lmao

[molten oasis]

Not playing reg g again

Which is valid

[rustic mountain]

i mean ive just been busy its not like actively not wanting to play

[mighty stump]

I went from 2 to rank 8 so far in like 7 wins in a row

[molten oasis]

Damn

[mighty stump]

forced myself to play to practice

[molten oasis]

This is also valid

[foggy lodge]

either its adult life or that the meta is shit

[rustic mountain]

nice dude, i wanna get more reps in w/ that miraidon team i jus gta build it out on cart first

[mighty stump]

adult life

[rustic mountain]

wanna try some of those variations i mentioned to u

[molten oasis]

But what if it’s a combination of both

[mighty stump]

if u do lmk the rental code

[rustic mountain]

for sure

[molten oasis]

(The meta is fine I just work a lot and I want to play FF16)

[trim hound]

FF16, come for the story, leave due to the gameplay

[rustic mountain]

is ff16 new or something

[trim hound]

no, it's been out for a bit

[molten oasis]

It’s been out for a bit

I think the combat is really fun

[rustic mountain]

also is it really the final fantasy if theres 16 of them? at a certain point we got to accept its not final

[real prairie]

Japan have just started experimenting with human animal hybrids... so you are kinda in the right industry

[molten oasis]

Continuing fantasy

[rustic mountain]

hahaha

[molten oasis]

Perpetual fantasy

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/fullmetal-alchemist-gif-23104096

[molten oasis]

NO STOP

[rustic mountain]

nah man still too soon

[molten oasis]

THE MEMORIES

[trim hound]

Bro doesn't know the lore

[next stump]

anyone know what time in EST euic starts tomorrow

[molten oasis]

I’ve played 7 8 and I’m playing 16 and should eventually play 15

[real prairie]

Unfortunately i wasn't kidding about this bit

[molten oasis]

Bcuz I bought it

[mighty stump]

Wonder how my license would work LOL

[mint void]

D9nt even know when it starts in CET

[mighty stump]

Just sojnds ljke more work for people doctors

[molten oasis]

True

[real prairie]

you will be a specialist consultant lol

[rustic mountain]

not sure dillon, its usually midde of the night for me

[molten oasis]

It would probably be at like 1 am for me

If I watched

[foggy lodge]

i think its like one hour later than the hour it started today

[next stump]

i think it'll be about 5AM EST

based off youtube stream start time

[rustic mountain]

4-5am seems right

[mint void]

According to the schedule it should be 4am

[molten oasis]

Some weird teams day 2ed

[rustic mountain]

like what

[mint void]

-5 to GMT with GM5 starting at 9

[real prairie]

matches will start about 9am GMT, So 4am EST

[mint void]

Probs first games at 5

[foggy lodge]

electric seed Miraidon with oranguru so it consumes the seed and Oranguru gives it the cloak

VGC

[next stump]

https://pokepast.es/fbf52a23ee7db79a

[rustic mountain]

wow

[foggy lodge]

oh wolfey's perish trap

[rustic mountain]

interesting to see tinkaton popping up more, used to be relegated to just the random niche eternatus teams

[foggy lodge]

but i think you already saw it

[next stump]

https://pokepast.es/8f7cfb248500bd6f

[real prairie]

mold breaker fake out is pretty massive

big FU to Farig

[molten oasis]

I didn’t remember what I just knew there was some odd stuff

[mint void]

Team is wild

[real prairie]

Rhydon, Slowbro to name a couple

[foggy lodge]

heatran pagos is 8-0

[real prairie]

Rayaquaza

[foggy lodge]

Rhydon is 7-1 😭

[rustic mountain]

yea i get its value but most ppl did not want to slot it on their team prior

[mint void]

Rhydon these nuts

[rustic mountain]

so original

[mint void]

I know

There are a lot.

[next stump]

how many rounds are there tomorrow for swiss, 4?

[dense latch]

what in the bo1 cts 1300s

[real prairie]

Ironically i was talking about Rhydon earlier as my mate got a PB of 120kg bench press, told him he can now lift a Rhydon LOL

[foggy lodge]

yes its 4 rounds

so only 10-2 or better top cut

[mint void]

Swiss is planned for 2 1/2 hrs

[mint void]

Ngl thats light

[dense latch]

that’s two archaludon damn

[mint void]

Expected it to be heavier

[dense latch]

sounds cooler i think

[real prairie]

Yeah its a bit of a weird weight tier

[dense latch]

you’d think a bridge would weigh more than a teenager

[mint void]

Same for arch. Like tf u need light metal for? U trynna float?

[next stump]

i wonder how many x-2 there will be

because there's a max of 32 in top cut

[mint void]

Imma calc its density tomorrow

[dense latch]

it’d be crazy if it goes to resistance for the x-2s

[real prairie]

lets not forget Ash solos your fave anime verse, guys built DIFFERENT!

[foggy lodge]

181 persons in day 2

[mint void]

Meh I feel like cosmoem is always floating too and not just laying its weight into u

[molten oasis]

That sounds terrible into shifu

[dense latch]

nahh

[dense latch]

let ash have his strength feats

[mint void]

Fuck them memes

[mint void]

Yeah I know. But Im saying that cosmoem is like do8ng the mayor lifting itself.

[next stump]

not perfect because pokemon has a slightly different structure

but 10-2 should be safe

with about 25-30 players in cut

[real prairie]

wasn't it sleeping? lol IDK, just anime logic

small thing = not heavy

[chrome knot]

im finally home to rewatch euic day1😭

[real prairie]

Enjoy

but remember, they chose NOT to stream Wolfey vs Marco Silva

[next stump]

i've said it a million times and ill say it again

how is there not an uncommentated B stream with at least 1 other game running

like all you fking need is a capture card

think of all of the history of this game that is LOST to time due to only streaming ~20 matches per tourney

[foggy lodge]

real

pokemon's streaming is horrible

but i guess that if they did that they would have to do A-B stream for each game

[solid frigate]

we love to see

[spiral ridge]

I gotta watch euic cus wtf heatran pagos

[chrome knot]

im eating like a pig watching csr vs pagos

[dense latch]

why did they remove the vs recorder

[chrome knot]

someone usually always records side games

[solid frigate]

it won Feburary Challenge lmao

[spiral ridge]

Really that’s sick

[real prairie]

and the way they decide the games is silly, if there are 2 players who have to win to go to day 2, thats far more entertaining that 2 people 7-0

[solid frigate]

yeah i think it is interesting but eh i am still rooting for Kyogre,Zamazenta or Pagos to win this

[spiral ridge]

That is a pagos

[next stump]

i've heard from cybertron's costream that the logic for that is that day 1 they focus on the higher records (even late) since they have a better chance of top cutting, and top cutting is ultimately the goal

but i do think watching win and in's is more fun

[solid frigate]

i know but Kyogre and Zama are more favoured for me to root cuz they feel like Meta call

[next stump]

especially when it's two strong known players

[spiral ridge]

My two faves play rate wise

I knew what was up with kyo (the fuck I did)

[solid frigate]

hmmmmmm

i might look at some sauce to see if i can make another project

[spiral ridge]

Oo?

[solid frigate]

probably new sauce that would work

[spiral ridge]

That
That is sauce yes

Sounds like you have no idea at all rn huh 😭

[solid frigate]

why would i even spoil the sauce-

[spiral ridge]

Cus you announced it here

[molten oasis]

I lost to giratina heatran

Because of Hatterene and the team being tr

[real prairie]

yeah i lost but that is the funniest ditto interation ever https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2305457919-avx2ipu2jbw867b5hnremqdwc6fmldypw

[chrome knot]

holy shit the stream games are insanely stacked

[molten oasis]

Zacian eats Tera water SoR surging strikes ig

[chrome knot]

robbie vs marco into agati vs ceree

[foggy lodge]

are you watching marco vs robbie?

[molten oasis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2305459609-egfk9m7yxb2fy0vo4btmpmq9jaurrstpw

[chrome knot]

watching agati match rn

[foggy lodge]

oh

yknow wasn't it better for robbie to pick whimsicott as lead?

like keeping it in the back until the end didn't do anything

[real prairie]

this guy is absolutely cooking https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2305460453

[dense latch]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2305296534-jr3i824w49b2n03b3qna65ffvucbygipw i missed using funny wire man

[cyan smelt]

U need taunt on torn

[chrome knot]

holy shit Luca stole game 1

[dense latch]

yea those crits were crazy clutch

im pretty sure agati’s mirai was max hp so the wood hammer crit might’ve mattered

[chrome knot]

dude holy shit agati is hot

[mint void]

Lmao

[next stump]

agati definitely the most attractive talented VGC player

victor medina up there

[left bobcat]

Oh man couple of drinks and I’m still fine

Anyways wasssss the word

[chrome knot]

TRUE

i like justin burns too tbh

[next stump]

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-nerd-yelling-insult-gif-7884166

[chrome knot]

wtf!!

[foggy lodge]

I like dawei

[left bobcat]

Ftw

[foggy lodge]

She is pretty

[tiny karma]

Ability: Aroma Veil

This Pokemon and its allies cannot become affected by Attract, Disable, Encore, Heal Block, Taunt, or Torment.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[foggy lodge]

Huh

[spiral ridge]

Dawei is pretty yah

[foggy lodge]

Do i go with the one that prevents taunt or the one that prevents sleep

I have Ogerpon rn

[left bobcat]

Taunt

Because you can taunt to prevent sleep soooooo

[foggy lodge]

Maybe i don't need sleep inmunity but Alcremie has mostly come just when TR is already up

Wait does this thing learn taunt

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Pokémon No. 869: Alcremie

Type

Fairy

Abilities

Sweet Veil, Aroma Veil (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

65/60/75/110/121/64

Total

495

Sableye version 4.28.1

Alcremie's moveset:

Physical Moves

Drain Punch, Endeavor, Facade, Fling, Giga Impact, Last Resort, Play Rough, Tackle

Special Moves

Alluring Voice, Dazzling Gleam, Disarming Voice, Draining Kiss, Energy Ball, Giga Drain, Hyper Beam, Magical Leaf, Misty Explosion, Mystical Fire, Psychic, Psyshock, Round, Snore, Solar Beam, Stored Power, Tera Blast, Tri Attack

Status Moves

Acid Armor, Aromatherapy, Aromatic Mist, Attract, Baby-Doll Eyes, Calm Mind, Celebrate, Charm, Decorate, Encore, Endure, Entrainment, Fake Tears, Helping Hand, Imprison, Light Screen, Magic Room, Metronome, Misty Terrain, Pain Split, Protect, Psych Up, Recover, Rest, Safeguard, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sweet Kiss, Sweet Scent, Wonder Room

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Alcremie.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[foggy lodge]

no

[left bobcat]

Yes

[chrome knot]

dawei is my favourite by miles

Olivia is 2nd

[foggy lodge]

Im watching the day 1 again and why did agati just sacrificed Miraidon and made "¯_(ツ)_/¯" 😭

[astral kelp]

othert than like decorate what does alcremie do

[foggy lodge]

Nothing

But its cute

[cyan smelt]

Stops taunt

[astral kelp]

metronome

[foggy lodge]

Smeargle is better in almost every way, faster, has fake out, spore, wide guard, follow me, spiky shield

And obviously decorate

[astral kelp]

oh shit aroma veil is kidna good

[astral kelp]

stats doee

alcremie actually has a ton of special bulk godam

[foggy lodge]

Thanks Alcremie for your only contribution to VGC being making decorate smeargle a thing

Smeargle almost always plays sash so meh

[astral kelp]

these stats are actually not too bad