competitive_discussion

[cyan smelt]

U don't suck, all rillabooms fear ur tsareena

[proven storm]

I'd love to play against someone in here

[real prairie]

too kind

[proven storm]

I feel like it'd be better practice than ladder too, especially since I'd probs get bodied at a tournament

[real prairie]

but i feel i should be known for my Ludicolo not my Tsareena

[torn parrot]

Nah I think it’s just he became world champion when there was much less competition

In all honestly I think there are like 30 world champions each year and 1 of them was lucky enough to do the right things at the right time

Wolfey is cracked he has 10 regional wins

[real prairie]

Wolfey also has this habbit of giving himself a crutch for no apparent reason lol

the 1 time he didn't he got Fucked by the layout of the tournament

[proven storm]

Dude his last 3 years at worlds have just been jank as fuck teams and he's like why am I not winning

And this year he took a meta team but he couldn't settle on it til like 25 days before the tournament and then got no sleep the night before

Sorry, last year

[real prairie]

was unbeaten at worlds last year and somehow meant he had to play additional games?? like WTF 🤣

[torn parrot]

when he was undefeated last year I was like WHAT THE HELL HE’S UNSTOPPABLE

it’s so unfortunate his momentum died that was insane

[proven storm]

He mentioned in his most recent worlds video that for the past few years he'd been trying to recapture the magic of when he made an off meta team that won him the tournament years and years ago but kept failing spectacularly

[proven storm]

Wasn't he like 18/1 the first day?

[torn parrot]

wolfey was getting so much attention my sister knew about it and she doesn’t give a shit what a pokemanz is

[real prairie]

my guy was ordering his lunch with the waiter and they were like "nah fam, you ain't done playing"

[proven storm]

Did you guys see his team with weezing that turned off toadscruel's ability so it could use priority moves on speed?

[torn parrot]

The first day he lost no matches

[proven storm]

Err

Status moves

Not priority moves, brainfart

[real prairie]

9/0

[astral kelp]

did he cook

[torn parrot]

Normal mono O:

[proven storm]

Yeah I meant games, he won each round 2-0 but played 9 rounds

So 18/0

[torn parrot]

yet no terapagos

[proven storm]

Didn't drop a single game

[real prairie]

yeah, still don't understand how he ended up playing the extra games

then ended up facing a mirror, a hard TR and a CIR

[torn parrot]

Maybe next year he can make a team and it will work all the way up to worlds

[proven storm]

His videos are so sanitised though

I'd pay to hear him drop an f bomb in a vid

[real prairie]

unfortunately he doesn't have that luxury, because of his fame, people go to worlds with teams purely intended on beating him

[torn parrot]

They’re absolutely made for mainly kids and casuals

[proven storm]

Yeah he's literally deliberately lost smaller tournaments before so his team doesn't get as much attention

[real prairie]

or simply not brought teams for that reason

[torn parrot]

That is unfortunate

[real prairie]

his regional win team almost got cooked because it showed up on Marco Silva steam just beforehand

[proven storm]

Destroyed by his own success

[torn parrot]

Maybe if he had more practice with his current team

Next worlds will probably be double restricted

[astral kelp]

RAICHU WALLING LIKE THE GIGGA CHAD HE IS

[real prairie]

I can see him doing a series in the future where he mentors someone unknown into winning a major tournament from behind the scenes

[astral kelp]

NVM I LOST

[torn parrot]

Buts how ):

[astral kelp]

be me
miraidon is op
put pickachu in team to counter miraidon
still loses to miraidon

[torn parrot]

What did it click?

Dazzling gleam?

[astral kelp]

i dont even remember lol

[proven storm]

pikachu to counter miraidon

What

[torn parrot]

I just don’t understand how they won that…

[astral kelp]

raichu i mean

[torn parrot]

You had 4 full
Hp pokemon

Oh nvm 2 were dead

Nvm I understand

[proven storm]

Are you guys masterball rank :3

Would love to battle someone in here at some point >:3

[real prairie]

it has lightning rod

sucks up all single target electric attacks and gets a +1 SpAtk from it

[real prairie]

Maya has hit #1 with a few different teams

[proven storm]

Yeah but surely a Miraidon just doesn't click electro drift into one

[real prairie]

this was a few weeks ago now:

that was W/ my B'ham Ludicolo team

[proven storm]

Good shit!

[astral kelp]

eternatus has been used ONCE

AND IT FAILED MISERABLY LMAO

hes so cool doe D:

[charred saddle]

highest ive been was no.7 but that was reg E so

[cyan smelt]

have u retired

[charred saddle]

not retired but got busy with med studies and irl stuffs

havent been really playing as much as back then

[torn parrot]

Nice job!

[torn parrot]

Hellllaaa nice job!

[real prairie]

haha old, but TY

[gentle crag]

oneofakindof has given 1 Gen Rep to mayahoppins

[torn parrot]

Yeye

[proven storm]

I challenge you to battle >:3

[torn parrot]

No thanks Im on vgc vacation

[proven storm]

[real prairie]

but the trainer made eye contact

[proven storm]

Nah I didn't I'm autistic

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/coming-to-america-arseniohall-spitting-drink-spit-spit-drink-gif-23457181

[torn parrot]

It’s okay I forget to make eye contact sometimes too

[proven storm]

I just trained myself to

It's really easy to mask as you get older

[real prairie]

hint for you, look at peoples mouths, they think they are getting eye contact but they aren't

[proven storm]

Nah I just do it

I did this with a hobby knife, eye contact is nothing compared to that

[torn parrot]

Jesus Christ

[real prairie]

accident i hope

[proven storm]

Yeah it was an accident

I slipped and cut 2 tendons

[real prairie]

Ooof

[torn parrot]

Aaah

[proven storm]

Couldn't use that hand for 8 months

[torn parrot]

): I’m sorry

[real prairie]

i hope for your sake you are right handed

[proven storm]

Nope, left handed

[real prairie]

well then

[torn parrot]

Hope your hand is doing better

[real prairie]

also same 😄

[proven storm]

Couldn't cook, couldn't write, couldn't play video games, couldn't tie shoelaces or do up buttons, couldn't jerk off

And it was at the start of the pandemic

All I could do was eat microwave meals and watch TV for 8 months because of the lockdowns

[real prairie]

as much as thats a pretty tame thing to say, a reminder there are minors in here haha

[proven storm]

Oop my bad

[real prairie]

before it escalates 😄

[proven storm]

But yeah it was the worst year of my life

[real prairie]

understandable

[proven storm]

But the saying about struggle making you stronger is true, I got covid the year after and it was a breeze compared to that

Things that in the past would make me really anxious or annoyed don't phase me any more, because it's not as bad as that

[real prairie]

Covid was fine, i felt like i was dieing when i had swine flu

[torn parrot]

This is what I got this season and that’s when I just dipped out to go play tcg pocket

[proven storm]

Yeah I had a flu about 3 months after covid that was so much worse. Covid was just feeling really tired for the most part. The flu I couldn't even breathe while lying down

[torn parrot]

Tcg pocket is really addicting

[proven storm]

Based

[real prairie]

yeah super addicitive

i hope you aren't spending too much money on it lol

[torn parrot]

I never spend money on gacha games

[proven storm]

I've spent $500 on marvel snap in the past 6 months

[torn parrot]

When you spend money your then commited

[real prairie]

OOF

[torn parrot]

And I don’t commit to gacha games

[real prairie]

yeah i haven't spent a penny on TCG pocket

im a grinder lol

[proven storm]

To be fair it was to get a shitload of cards I'd always wanted, and I haven't spent any money in a month or longer because I have so many different decks to play

I have zero desire to pay any more considering I have about 20 viable decks

[real prairie]

is Marvel snap IRL cards or virtual?

[proven storm]

Virtual, but I also play magic the gathering irl and just made a $300 card order at the start of this month

[real prairie]

double off

[torn parrot]

Well if it makes you happy

[real prairie]

oof*

Yeah, your money at the end of the day

[proven storm]

Yeah but it is dumb because you can't resell them, at least with my magic cards I can sell out if I need to and get like 10 grand

[real prairie]

you earn it to spend it lol

[proven storm]

Best magic trade I ever did was these cards called Mishra's Bauble

I got them for $1 each from a dollar bin at a store years before, then they spiked to $40 each because they'd only been printed in one set and suddenly were used in a meta modern deck

I sold my 4 for $160, 2 months later they got reprinted and dropped to $2

[torn parrot]

Time travel is definitely possible

But only forwards

[proven storm]

We're all time travellers in the end

[real prairie]

could have been worse...

https://youtu.be/vfiYMnvg6kU?si=W2Iv31RZPOoC-ULO

[astral kelp]

am i cooking

[proven storm]

Most expensive card I've owned was $200, but there are cards worth thousands

Black Lotuses have sold for millions

[real prairie]

until Incin steps up

[proven storm]

I can't tell you because I'm a noob but I respect the Stantler

[astral kelp]

oh wait room service doesnt work there

bwomp

[astral kelp]

incin comes in +2 spa muahaha

[proven storm]

Wdym worse? I made $160 after spending $4

That's a massive return on investment

[real prairie]

i meant the spending on Marvel

[proven storm]

Ohhhh lmao

[real prairie]

was using it as a segway to drop that video link lol

[proven storm]

I try to avoid mobile games because my family has a history of gambling addiction and I'm super susceptible to microtransactions

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-price-gif-11163798864566121593

[proven storm]

I think "I'll just get this $10 thing" and then a month later I've bought 10 of them without realising

[real prairie]

yeah i got into a bad habbit with Fifa

was adding £100 a month to my phone bill

[proven storm]

The game companies literally hire psychology experts to make the games as addictive as possible and to separate you from your money

[astral kelp]

wtf do i make stantler do

his stats are SO ass lmao

wait since when does indeedee learn fake out HUH

[torn parrot]

Im susceptible to all addiction

That’s why I set rules for myself

I’ll never drink I’ll never do drugs and I’ll never gamble

[proven storm]

I used to smoke weed every day from the moment I woke up for years, I smoked cigarettes for 8 years, used to be an alcoholic and also did party drugs like mdma and ketamine at clubs in my early 20s

It ain't worth it

Now it's just a couple beers on the weekend max and vaping

Still can't give up the nicotine

[torn parrot]

That’s real bad, I’m sorry you fell into that rabbit hole

[proven storm]

It's fine, it landed me in the grippy sock hospital twice too

But that's more the bipolar disorder than the drugs

But the drugs didn't help

I think the easiest way to get kids to avoid drugs isn't to demonise them like the old school presentations did, it's to be honest that yeah they're fun as hell but they will absolutely ruin your life in the end

[real prairie]

there is a niche strategy of Indeedee without psychic surge and Zoroak with fakeout indeedee

[astral kelp]

zoroak is actually wild

[real prairie]

its a BO1 strat

[cyan smelt]

or terapagos with indeedee

[proven storm]

Terapagos annoys the hell out of me

Wtf does its ability actually DO? Does it just resist the first move used against it?

[real prairie]

yeah

[proven storm]

Ugh

[astral kelp]

that is literally it lmao

what the fuck is this

how is ninetails alola

what?? im so fucking confused LMAO

istg ninetails is good

[real prairie]

its usable

better in low power regs

specs A9 won a regional if im not mistaken

[astral kelp]

im actually really surprised aurora veil ninetails isnt used more

[real prairie]

to many other weather setters

AVeil only works if the snow is still up

between Kyogre, Groudon, Koraidon, Terapagos, Pelliper, Torkoal and then manual weather setters too its too easy to avoid

[patent marsh]

Wcyd move fails the moment opponent swaps in their weather setter

[torn parrot]

Wat?

[astral kelp]

ehhh

[astral kelp]

im just confused at that team lmao

[patent marsh]

It's too risky overall in this format since a dead turn can be pretty painful

[astral kelp]

ahhh is ee\

too much peliper

that makes a lot of sense actually

[torn parrot]

I really love black holes

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/gargantua-black-black-hole-hole-interstellar-gif-21983367

I love black holes

[real prairie]

you buying a Nissan?

[torn parrot]

My mind is blown

[real prairie]

LOL

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2302406207-jovnmsrw0p1oh2y622andajbt3lig8ypw

[chrome knot]

clicking nothing looks better than “k4x1 rejected open team sheets”

[astral kelp]

i HATE open team sheet ARGGG

didnt know you could just click nothing tbh lol

[chrome knot]

that was certainly a game

[astral kelp]

ikr so stupid lmao

articunos speed is not nearly fast enough to make that work

plus if they just attack that slot it just kinda dies

the typing is SO BAD

[chrome knot]

also a replay in 1000 so like

[real prairie]

interesting strats

[left bobcat]

Fire punch

[real prairie]

you found the 1/100 use case for fake out on a psychic surge Indeedee, thats impressive lol

[astral kelp]

muahaha\

wait why isnt it used more?

[chrome knot]

because the ability prevents it

[astral kelp]

wait

[chrome knot]

…

[astral kelp]

AHHAAHAH

wait why did it work on miraidon??

OH BECAUSE OF TERRAIN CHANGING AHHAHAHA

mmm yes definitevly intentional

now to trash that team and never use it again

[next stump]

good morning y'all

[chrome knot]

gm

howd ur local go btw ?

[next stump]

uberrrr depressing hahaha. Due to numbers it was gonna be 3 3-1's that made cut and 1 2-2. I started 2-0 so was feeling pretty good, round 3 played very poorly into terapagos and then round 3 maybe the most unlucky set of pokemon i've ever played. Game 1 heat wave double burns urshifu + CIR, game 2 my draco misses, he crits body press through screens, and he gets 2 3 turn sleeps.

Then my round 3 opponent (who was 3-0) lost his final round in game 3 barely.

They publish the top cut and I have 57% res and another 2-2 has 57.5% res but only because he had a bye the final round LOL so he really went 1-2. He also only had 57.5% res because my round 3 opponent lost to his round 1 opponent, so had my guy won I would have made it anyway

just an unlucky afternoon overall, I think I gotta rethink CIR for my locals since it was 5 CSR, 3 Zama, 1 Terapagos and 1 Miraidon

none of which I'd say are super favorable matchups lol

[chrome knot]

thats so troll

1-2 into making cut bc of a bye is devious

[next stump]

yeah hahaha he felt reallyyyyy bad about it

[chrome knot]

i mean like what can ya do

[next stump]

only reason it happened was because someone dropped after round 4 had been generated and the TO didn't regenerate the round

he gave him and another player a free W

[chrome knot]

bruh

ok thats kinda crazy

[chrome knot]

depending on what the 6 was like i think id be happy seeing csr stuff

but also, are u playing in Illinois USPL?

[next stump]

the smeargle version

also yes I am but not sure if they'll have me play this week against canada

[real prairie]

Unlucky D, but nice work getting out there n all that

[chrome knot]

rosters were due last night methink but was gonna ask if you wanted to play me but i think its a little late bc pairings go live soon

[proven storm]

Hey :3

[modest kestrel]

Hey guys, what's the best way to synergize Magnet Trappers like magnezone

[proven storm]

I'm here to learn as much as possible so I'd like to know too

[modest kestrel]

im not sure what works best

[next stump]

not too many people here play singles unfortunately, and i've only heard of magnet trapping in singles

[proven storm]

Why did they remove levitate from gengar btw?

[modest kestrel]

op i guess

[real prairie]

yeah for whatever reason they felt Gengar needed nerfing 🤷‍♂️

speaking of levitate, has anyone imagined what a Weezing without levitate might actually be like in the anime/IRL

just little ball bouncing around on the floor

sprewing Nutro gas everywhere

https://tenor.com/view/weezing-arbok-botar-pokemon-gif-7568987

[chrome knot]

i love arbok here ngl

[real prairie]

hard not to

classic design

[chrome knot]

nah jsut he spinnin

[plain drum]

[chrome knot]

https://tenor.com/view/pokémon-ogerpon-teal-mask-pokemon-scarlet-and-violet-spin-gif-14149179464852236602

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/pichu-pikachu-pokemon-spin-pichu-spin-gif-26206075

[olive imp]

https://tenor.com/view/vaporeon-pokemon-spin-spinning-sped-up-gif-25250965

[chrome knot]

would anyone like a shiny girafarig @ 0atk in a love ball, it came out male and i dont need dat

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pokemon-shield-pokemon-plush-plush-plushie-gif-22905345

[proven storm]

[real prairie]

ill take it

what do you wan't in return?

[chrome knot]

nothing

its essentially a breeject to me lmao

[real prairie]

because = Male LOL

poor Girafe

[chrome knot]

yeah lmfao all my vgc teams are love ball female

[real prairie]

ill give him a good home

[chrome knot]

i transfer them to sv then I can trade

[real prairie]

yeah whenever works for me, just lemme know

You don't breed on SV?

[chrome knot]

noo in bdsp its easier to find what I want

@real prairie i can trade rn, 001213 code

[real prairie]

ooo coming

no one found? @chrome knot

[chrome knot]

u did NOT tell me u were searching 😭

[real prairie]

haha searching LOL

Noice one @chrome knot

[left bobcat]

Impressive

If I do say so myself

[chrome knot]

enjoy giraffe

my trainer ID on my foongus raid save was insane wtf

[real prairie]

may never use it, but if it saves it from being released, im here lol

[chrome knot]

909097 is so cool looking

[real prairie]

almost my phone number 🤣

[real prairie]

didn't know what to send you, so figured female shiny Christmas bird would do

[plain drum]

Talk to you soon /s

[left bobcat]

Ohhhhhh

Luxury

[molten oasis]

Getting up early is somewhat nice

Getting up early for work is not nice

[trim hound]

Breeding in SV is a pain in the dick

[calm gulch]

what’s up slut

[bold geode]

Nothing much whore what's good

[calm gulch]

nothing much finished work

[bold geode]

Pog

[feral wraith]

[real prairie]

Really? Slap on egg power sandwich and have 500 eggs super quick 🤣

[trim hound]

Or I can just not bother with sandwiches and just slap two mons in a daycare

Far easier

[real prairie]

collecting 1 egg at a time 😭

[trim hound]

You generally don't want a deluge of eggs because you have to hatch them all to clear out your boxes

[real prairie]

i mean if you are shiny hunting, you want lots of eggs no?

[trim hound]

I'm not shiny hunting

I'm hunting for IVs

And even in the case of shiny hunting you can be left with 50+ eggs and forced to deal with them to unfuck your boxes

[real prairie]

realistically you can get what you need with 1 egg then

[trim hound]

Slightly more if unlucky

[real prairie]

if you need 0iv you just power item on the IV and hypertrain the rest of the IVs

[left bobcat]

Oiii

[trim hound]

Slow Special Attackers require both, which is the big bitch

[real prairie]

power item the male and female no?

[trim hound]

Power Item the one, Destiny Knot the other and prayge

[real prairie]

well power item both and then mint it 🤷‍♂️

[trim hound]

You can't mint a fucking IV

[real prairie]

sorry confused destiny knot with everstone

yeah, can't you just have 2 power items

[trim hound]

If you have both with opposing 0 IVs yes

And if I only need the one egg I'm strictly using an older Gen to breed

Because fuck SV breeding

[real prairie]

yeah completely fair

[chrome knot]

@real prairie want ?

[trim hound]

I don't hate myself enough to do it more than absolutely necessary

[chrome knot]

its not marked so ion need :3

[real prairie]

i have shiny Tsareena in my team already, TY though

[proven storm]

Hmm

[trim hound]

If you give me like 10 min I can take it off your hands

[chrome knot]

non sorry someone else claimed it alr

[trim hound]

Np

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/a74eeec755d25b5d thoughts about this y’all?

[real prairie]

i prefer Jolly Pao

also mystic water and tera water?

[dense latch]

that’s pretty normal

[real prairie]

fair enough

id figure if you are going mystic water, and rain dance youd go for a defensive tera

[dense latch]

the more multipliers the better

i think it gets some pretty good KOs it otherwise wouldn’t even with mystic water

[real prairie]

fair

[molten oasis]

I got prio tailwind and adamant picks up ko’s more consistently

[chrome knot]

......

[molten oasis]

Shroom detected

[real prairie]

i had this convo the other day but yeah, 205 is a common speed tier, and you want to outspeed Miraidon/Koraidon

or at least speed tie

[chrome knot]

??????????????????????????

[real prairie]

shame about the Atk

nice work on the Speed

[chrome knot]

i phased and got a viable amoonguss

[real prairie]

lucks with you today

[molten oasis]

Aaaaand honestly

I have a zacian, who already outspeeds both

[real prairie]

fair

[molten oasis]

And I hate the speed tie games, so I generally prefer to use adamant and position pao in a good spot

[real prairie]

so be outsped? lol

[molten oasis]

I’d rather be outspeed then play a 50/50 I usually lose

[real prairie]

lol fair enough

[molten oasis]

It’s better info for my head lol

Plus consistently ohkoing most bolts is nice

[real prairie]

yeah thats fair, i usually use Tsarenna to deal with Bolt

it won't outspeed Kyogre who does good damage with Water spout and gets finished off by Tsareena

[molten oasis]

Yea that’s fair

[real prairie]

Speaking of, looking to start a new team build, but i need more heavy hitters. Im HEAVILY reliant on Kyogre for damage, to the point i often spend 4 turns setting up the perfect environment for it

any suggestions for non restricted murder machines

[dense latch]

what's your current team

[real prairie]

https://pokepast.es/ecc4e92054f7136b

some variation of that

i want to feel comfortable leaving my restricted behind in bad MUs

[chrome knot]

phased again another lil girl needs a home :3

[real prairie]

@trim hound

[trim hound]

give me a sec and I'll snag it

[timber falcon]

https://pokepast.es/113484465f5f8422 any idea on how to improve this team?

Explodes to almost anything

[trim hound]

gotta boot up Violet

[molten oasis]

Never can go wrong with shifu

Or rilla

[real prairie]

I've struggled with it tbh, without scarf it feels slow and laboured

But guess I could give it another go

[molten oasis]

I think slow shifu is epic but fair enough

Could build it really bulky

Shifu I think can pick up slack

If you don’t take kyogre

[real prairie]

It's another water type though that's something to consider

[molten oasis]

Single strike?

[trim hound]

No, Rapid-Strike

the good one

[molten oasis]

I didn’t ask you dude

Trying to help him out and he doesn’t HAVE to go rapid strike

If he doesn’t want rapid strike then we can look at other options

[chrome knot]

mystic water shifu is so op

I love it sm

[real prairie]

Struggled even more with it, just didn't seem to offer knock outs

[molten oasis]

Hm

…basc? lol

Cornerstone might be ok

Bolt maybe

[foggy lodge]

Basculegion with Kyogre is okay

Swift swim and inmune to fake out is actually great

[molten oasis]

We’re looking for something that lets him leave kyogre behind

It was a thought but idt that’ll work

[real prairie]

Regidrago maybe as a TR sweeper? But then it's weak to CIR and doubt it's slower to threaten a kill

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 898: Calyrex-Ice

Types

Psychic/Ice

Abilities

As One (Glastrier)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/165/150/85/130/50

Total

680

Base Species

Calyrex

Sableye version 4.28.1

Pokémon No. 895: Regidrago

Type

Dragon

Abilities

Dragon's Maw

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

200/100/50/100/50/80

Total

580

Sableye version 4.28.1

[real prairie]

100spAtk really isn't much

[foggy lodge]

Because it's damage doesn't come from the sp atk

It comes from its ability

[real prairie]

True

[left bobcat]

True

[real prairie]

@left bobcat I respect your commitment to trolling

[left bobcat]

I sense sarcasm

[real prairie]

Nope completely genuine

[left bobcat]

Mhmmmm

[molten oasis]

Meh

Bloodmoon?

[real prairie]

Potentially, could then tera ghost it as a Zama counter too

[molten oasis]

Also not bad into bolt

[molten oasis]

Uhm

Hm

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 571: Zoroark-Hisui

Types

Normal/Ghost

Abilities

Illusion

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

55/100/60/125/60/110

Total

510

Base Species

Zoroark

Sableye version 4.28.1

[trim hound]

what about spooky zork

[molten oasis]

You are Tera grass Zac, which I think is bad

Slow tailwind fucking sucks

[trim hound]

I mean Zac has a ton of issues in general

[molten oasis]

This explodes to anything cuz you have no bulk on a team with mediocre speed control

Peli zac is kinda mid id rather have torn

[trim hound]

Which is why people don't play Zac

because you have to shove so much shit into trying to unfuck it

you hard lose to Urshifu, you hard lose to Incin

[molten oasis]

Okay thank you

@timber falcon try torn and a more offensive team with Regidrago

I think you’ll have more success

[trim hound]

https://munchstats.com/gen9vgc2025regg/1760/Zacian-Crowned

#1 partner is a kill shot into Incin lmao

[chrome knot]

went through some chores today and made many parts of teams in game today ^-^ felt kinda rewarding to get this outta the way before 2 locals and Vancouver :3

[molten oasis]

Nice

Yiu can also try this https://pokepast.es/ad664fa79dc7a11a I think the options here are pretty flexible. Can go hearth or corner @timber falcon I also like rilla over pao with hearth

[solid frigate]

i probably need to ask someone for a Calyrex at some point cuz i am running CIR in Double restricteds

uhhhh

did you pinged someone wrong or did i miss context?

[molten oasis]

Missed context

[solid frigate]

ah ok

[molten oasis]

I can prob give you my caly

I have 0 intentions on using it in double res

[solid frigate]

i can build CIR before hand so yeah thanks

[timber falcon]

ive looked ad a few, any specific ones though?

[timber falcon]

ty

[gentle crag]

otot8953 has given 1 Gen Rep to drayagedrago

[molten oasis]

There’s one that did well at San Antonio look at that one

[real prairie]

?

[trim hound]

125 Sp.A, Normal/Ghost typing

[real prairie]

Oh right, zoroak

[solid frigate]

Zoroark-

[real prairie]

Doesn't really threaten KOs tbh

[trim hound]

125 Sp.A with STAB Hyper Voice doesn't threaten kills?

[tiny karma]

Zoroark-Hisui's moveset:

Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Body Slam, Brick Break, Comeuppance, Crunch, Dig, Facade, Fling, Focus Punch, Foul Play, Giga Impact, Knock Off, Lash Out, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Phantom Force, Poltergeist, Scratch, Shadow Claw, Shadow Sneak, Skitter Smack, Take Down, Thief, Throat Chop, U-turn

Special Moves

Bitter Malice, Burning Jealousy, Dark Pulse, Extrasensory, Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Grass Knot, Hex, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Icy Wind, Night Shade, Psychic, Shadow Ball, Sludge Bomb, Snarl, Swift, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Agility, Calm Mind, Confuse Ray, Curse, Detect, Endure, Fake Tears, Happy Hour, Helping Hand, Hone Claws, Imprison, Leer, Memento, Nasty Plot, Pain Split, Protect, Psych Up, Rain Dance, Rest, Roar, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Spite, Substitute, Swords Dance, Taunt, Torment, Trick, Will-O-Wisp

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Zoroark-Hisui.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[rustic mountain]

what r the merits of pao on this kind of team over like bolt or peli. feel like ive seen pao cir around but im unsure why

[chrome knot]

cir & sor

pao also makes for cute faster paced balance mode, slam dunks csr

[rustic mountain]

yea i could see that

[chrome knot]

last is ursh i just dont have 2 love ball rss

[left bobcat]

Ice

[rustic mountain]

love ball animation is cool, i do prefer dream ball tho if im picking b/w more pink based apris

[chrome knot]

all of my vgc mons need to hit a certain criteria

Female(if possible
Love Ball
Mark or Special Trait

[rustic mountain]

for me its shiny if possible and apriball

[left bobcat]

For me it’s-

[chrome knot]

so my current team set is
Love Ball(Rare)
Love Ball(Rare)
Love Ball, Female, Shiny, 0Atk/27Spe
Love Ball, Female, Shiny, 0Atk
Love Ball(Rare), Best Friends Ribbon
Ursh is also Love Ball & Female

[foggy lodge]

I should get a jumbo roaring moon

[left bobcat]

Hmmmmmmmmm

BEAST BALLS

[rustic mountain]

beast balls are cool, issue is they dont necessarily match a lot of shinies outright they are neutral on most things. that animation is top tier tho, its awesome w/ a mon like shiny iron bundle

[rustic mountain]

[rustic mountain]

regular or shiny?

[foggy lodge]

Regular

I don't like shiny moon tbh lol

[rustic mountain]

wont be terribly difficult but prolly will take some time

[foggy lodge]

And I'm from violet so shiny hunting one with my OT would be horrible

[rustic mountain]

oh yea violet how tf r u gna hunt it jumbo anyway haha union circle?

[trim hound]

just get violet lmoa

[trim hound]

the union circle from hell

[rustic mountain]

union circle is rough cuz of the shared spawn pool and it generally yielding u a lot lower then u otherwise would be getting on ur own save file. also moon is pretty annoying to hunt cuz of its lower spawn rate in general from wat ive heard

[trim hound]

yeah it's bad like Iron Valiant is

[foggy lodge]

It only appears on one cave right?

And in that same cave hydreigon appears so lol

[rustic mountain]

valiants pretty easy actually if u sandwich boost

i think if u do fairy sandwich and go to the caves its like the only thing spawning in

[trim hound]

wait, you can target Dragons in that cave

nvm, its fine

[rustic mountain]

yea i think thats the problem is its shared spawn table w/ it regardless of what type u go w/ on the sandwich

i think it specifically makes moon a bit more annoying

[foggy lodge]

Damn

[rustic mountain]

ive never hunted moon tho so idk ud have to ask someone who has. i have violet as well

[foggy lodge]

My only thing for mons on my team is that it was caught by me

[rustic mountain]

yea i shouldve included that as part of mine too lol

if its a friend that caught it tho ill use it still im not as picky on that part specifically as i used to be

also a few mons ive had bred for me in the past that ive also used

[tiny karma]

Move: Circle Throw

If both the user and the target have not fainted, the target is forced to switch out and be replaced with a random unfainted ally. This effect fails if the target is under the effect of Ingrain, has the Suction Cups Ability, or this move hit a substitute.

Type

Fighting

Category

Physical

Power

60

Accuracy

90

PP (max)

10 (16)

Priority

-6

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[rustic mountain]

[tiny karma]

Move: Mirror Move

The user uses the last move used by the target. The copied move is used against that target, if possible. Fails if the target has not made a move, or if the last move used cannot be copied by this move.

Type

Flying

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

20 (32)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[torn parrot]

Guys

I kinda just wanna look up the enternals ending online

Every time I think about this movie I get bored

[left bobcat]

Hey now

[molten oasis]

It’s a boring movie

[torn parrot]

It very much is

Incredibly uninteresting yes

[tiny karma]

- [Ghost]

Immune

Fighting, Normal

Resists (0.5x)

Bug, Poison

Neutral damage

Dragon, Electric, Fairy, Fire, Flying, Grass, Ground, Ice, Psychic, Rock, Steel, Stellar, Water

Weak (2x)

Dark, Ghost

Type Notes

Ghost-types are immune to effects that prevent Switching.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[torn parrot]

There was a review online that said they really liked it yet it literally almost put them to sleep

I’ll try it again and try my damned hardest to stay awake

[rustic mountain]

eternals?

[torn parrot]

yeah

[rustic mountain]

weird i was just looking at a clip of it

[torn parrot]

That’s cus we have a psychic link

[rustic mountain]

ive heard mixed things on it

have to see it myself eventually the lore itself is good, movies just tend to have an issue of consolidating too much a lot of times and it loses its depth

[molten oasis]

Should have been a show

I heard the new Captain America movie is kinda mid

[twin kindle]

Eternals more like eternone

[molten oasis]

Ong

[twin kindle]

As in entertain

[torn parrot]

): guys

The movie is starting with a scrolling text screen that I have to read…

So far it’s 2 paragraphs

[molten oasis]

I hoping that the fantastic 4 movie doesn’t suck

[torn parrot]

It’s complete silence

this is so awkward

[rustic mountain]

i think since disney has taken over a lot of these other ips, weve had such an oversaturation of whats become just a product rather then like intent based art that is supposed to really be communicating something outside big cgi and action scenes

[real prairie]

Just watch a story summary on YouTube and move on haha

[twin kindle]

I expected it tbh
Kinda just looked like s2 of winter soldier

[torn parrot]

I wish he had the super juice

He’s just a guy

[twin kindle]

Geez 😭

[torn parrot]

Holy hell you guys eternals starts with scrolling text that’s like 5 paragraphs long in pure silence with no voice over

):

[torn parrot]

That’s really bad

[twin kindle]

“Just a woke retelling of a precious movie”

[molten oasis]

True

[chrome knot]

charge ur phone

[twin kindle]

What does charging mean

[limber marsh]

ok so i remember hearing scald was removed in scarlet and violet, but it looks like it was added Again in the teal mask? does this mean i can use it in vgc again?

[molten oasis]

Why are you on like 3% battery Luna?

[twin kindle]

It’s a metaphor for my life

[molten oasis]

Yo can but it has a limited pool of mons that can use it

[limber marsh]

sweet ty

[molten oasis]

Are you okay?

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/gurugurugg-gif-4353715209279177183

Lunaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[real prairie]

I've decided to get a little bit tipsy on a Monday hehe

Hiii all

[twin kindle]

Borracho

límpiate

[real prairie]

https://youtube.com/shorts/nWm0_h0Ta6E?si=l-oz-YG5IP3n8Q_a

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/hsr-honkai-honkai-star-rail-star-rail-herta-gif-4071677616226591215

[real prairie]

Am I that drunk or is this a word I don't understand?

[twin kindle]

Nes

Perhaps yo

Maybe even a yesnt

[real prairie]

Feel this

[plain drum]

It's Spanish for drunk

[real prairie]

I haven't gotten to the drunk level of understanding more languages yet

So I shall keep drinking

Vamos

[twin kindle]

Ello

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/star-rail-honkai-star-rail-star-rail-herta-herta-kuru-kuru-gif-13080068768101353831

poke

[twin kindle]

oh my

[solid frigate]

heh

[real prairie]

She seems concerned about you playing with her cheeks

https://tenor.com/view/ba-dum-tsss-drum-band-gif-7320811

[plain drum]

[bold geode]

[molten oasis]

Working holidays sucks

Especially working the weekend of valentines day AND the day where everyone except the food workers get a day off

[left bobcat]

Ello govna

Fumamdo pura motita cherry

[molten oasis]

I’m so burnt out dude

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-i-want-to-be-free-of-this-gif-14848540

[left bobcat]

Welp 3 more years to go

[bold geode]

I apologize for being a big back

[torn parrot]

When I opened up eternals and saw that silent scrolling text guys

I really did understand everything

[torn parrot]

The true weight of boredom is what I understood

[left bobcat]

Reeel

I’m just waiting for my next class while not trying to fall asleep

[molten oasis]

Lmfao

[graceful dune]

anyone ever see a grimmsnarl cal ice/shadow team?

[left bobcat]

Yeah

[next stump]

yeah i've been using grimm/caly ice for about a month or so

[left bobcat]

And it’s pretty mid

Jk

IM KIDDING

[graceful dune]

how's it been? want to build a team with grimmsnarl really bad just don't know what works

[left bobcat]

Well it’s mostly a support mon

Light screen
Reflect
Spirit break
Thunder wave/fake out/parting shot

[graceful dune]

yeah of course that's what I intend on using it as, just want it in to be in the mix

[left bobcat]

Light clay tera steel

[graceful dune]

yup got that down, just need to figure out the team around it

[left bobcat]

Well ice rider and grim have one thing in common

They are slow af

So maybe make a trick room team

So having slow options helps

[graceful dune]

alright, how complicated are trick room teams? this is the first team I'm building

[next stump]

https://pokepast.es/4acba0b5d254d5e1

this is the team i've been using most recently

https://pokepast.es/4aff1bfb9c51067f

the original version that did very well at a recent large tournament is here

[graceful dune]

like the way this looks, thanks

[gentle crag]

vukaasin has given 1 Gen Rep to mlbd

[next stump]

you're welcome 🙂 feel free to ask any questions

[timber falcon]

doth anyone have a raging bolt set i could borrow?

or a clue on how to ev one for electroweb

[left bobcat]

Doth

WHERE IS DOTH?

[mint void]

bro

[left bobcat]

bro

[twin kindle]

Sis

[chrome knot]

@rustic mountain cir/pao https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2302732089-oy6raery15yyqi48pogn3d91or80bq9pw

[dense latch]

i know it was a crit but +1 cudgel almost OHKOing tera water amoong is crazy

[mint void]

who tf are u

cant keep track of all the names

[chrome knot]

im everyone and everywhere at the same time

[mint void]

u probably playing yourself half the time

[twin kindle]

She’s the cute one
Can’t you see?

[left bobcat]

Nah

[twin kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-i-see-gif-25052382

The I see incident

[left bobcat]

I see now

[next stump]

I’m so excited for EUIC

internationals are so hype to watch

[mint void]

same

looking forward to it ngl

need idea for my team Im not happy rn

[real prairie]

If someone else takes Ludicolo to EUIC when I can't go I'm not sure I'll scream, cry or be overwhelmed with joy

[next stump]

it would take a mad man

[mint void]

Id do it for u

but Im not going

[molten oasis]

Just win

[real prairie]

Unfortunately that mad man has been sidelined by a stag do

[molten oasis]

Can’t be that hard

[real prairie]

Winning isn't the issue, not being able to attend is 🤣

Huge Ls

[molten oasis]

Damn, the one thing that prevents Ludi from being EUIC champ

[real prairie]

IKR

[mint void]

@real prairiewhat does Kyogre suffer from?

I need an answer for it

[real prairie]

The platypus pineapple was a shoe in

[real prairie]

Mine slightly different because I run scarf

[mint void]

nono scarf is my issue

The others I can outspeed and knock off

[real prairie]

Rillaboom priority grass attacks

Basically any priory that does damage

Wideguard

As most won't run hydro pump like I do

They still try to have origin pulse

Faster Knock off (so basically roaring moon)

Hard TR

[mint void]

yeah thas what I do but cant do that vs prankster TW

ngl I have really fallen for Volcarona lately

[real prairie]

You basically have to lead it's weaknesses out of safety

I'm always facing a rillaboom or bolt as leads when my opponents have them

If not both

[mint void]

Tbh I was stupid alot cause Im conditioned into SS on Urshifu for some reason and I never CC it

which is stupid cause Knock off CC just KOs it

[real prairie]

Scarf Urshifu is a problem too

[mint void]

Im running the tang set mostly but a bit faster

[real prairie]

Tera stellar close combat KOs most of the time too

[mint void]

OHKO?

[real prairie]

Ohko

[next stump]

i’d be willing to bet that mystic water strikes does almost as much damage as a close combat to kyogre

assuming you are running the same as item as tang

[real prairie]

Scarf is 252spAtk 252+Speed

So any big physical hit is a ringer

[real prairie]

Run the numbers, I'm interested

I don't know the tang ev spread or I would

[mint void]

tbh idk Id say no

75x1.2x.1.5x1.5x1.5:2

120x1.5

so after seeing this uhm

maybe

[torn parrot]

Im half way through the movie

[mint void]

which?

[tiny karma]

Move: Surging Strikes

Hits three times. This move is always a critical hit unless the target is under the effect of Lucky Chant or has the Battle Armor or Shell Armor Abilities.

Type

Water

Category

Physical

Power

25

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Punch

Boosted by Iron Fist.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[gentle crag]

Result: 112.500000

[next stump]

252 Atk Mystic Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Kyogre in Rain on a critical hit: 96-114 (54.8 - 65.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

vs

252 Atk Urshifu-Rapid Strike Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Kyogre: 111-132 (63.4 - 75.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[molten oasis]

It’s close

But surging strikes 2 hit kills without removing your defense

[mint void]

not enough to be worth vs lefties ogre

CC 2hits through lefties

SS probs not since they run a lil bulk

[molten oasis]

But then you explode to origin pulse im betting

[mint void]

yesah

tbf tho I see an angle vs TW

[molten oasis]

And then it misses cuz thah move sucks lmao

[mint void]

since I will underspeed Turn 1 but poss outspeed Turn 2

[next stump]

also gotta keep in mind that calm mind kyogre teams are going to cycle incin for intimidate against your ursh for close combat

[mint void]

If I CC+TW Turn 1

[molten oasis]

Kyogre and groudon get 110 bp moves with 85 acc and then for some reason the caly’s gets 120 bp moves with 100 acc

DLC privilege is bullshit lmao

[real prairie]

If you are running scarf just have Urshifu speed over 156

[real prairie]

Modern power creep too

[twin kindle]

Tbf kyogre gets rain

[real prairie]

Id imagine it'll get nerfed next gen to match

[twin kindle]

Groudon doesn’t

[real prairie]

Eruption

[twin kindle]

Kyogre also has water sprout

[molten oasis]

It still sucks

Okay think about this, THEY DONT MISS

[twin kindle]

Yeee caly is most consistent

[molten oasis]

With spout you have to keep kyogre as healthy as possible

[torn parrot]

Pokemon is bullshit

[molten oasis]

It’s so stupid lmao

[real prairie]

Spread accuracy on origin miss is what, 77%?

[torn parrot]

At least tera won’t be around so calyrex shadow can die to snarls and ice can take a good amount of damagefrom heat waves

And such

[real prairie]

mega Calyrex next gen

[twin kindle]

Mienshao has been fun with csr

[torn parrot]

I bet

[real prairie]

I might go with Clefairy uno, but have it know healing wish

[dreamy tusk]

Is it better to have max Defense or max Special Attack on Blissey?

[real prairie]

follow me, after you, helping hand, healing wish

[dense latch]

max defense probably

[real prairie]

heal Kyogre back to full HP in the late game

[dense latch]

you get a lot of value from your evs

[molten oasis]

I really do think that the caly’s are so busted because of Tera

[torn parrot]

I think you are right about that

[molten oasis]

They’d be easier to manage if they weren’t just able to remove their awful typings

[real prairie]

yeah it absolutely helps them

[torn parrot]

Like they are really insanely strong if you ignore type stuff

[dense latch]

they were pretty busted in gen 8 too but gen 9 was just an objective buff

[real prairie]

just caly shadow being able to avoid sucker punch for 1

[torn parrot]

Yeah being able to pin it always with sucker would be big

Generally just pinning things in general

[real prairie]

obviously redirection is still a thing but yeah

[torn parrot]

Snarls would be a killer for it

It’s worst enemy

[real prairie]

just realised Smeargle is the lowest BST viable competitive mon

[torn parrot]

Wow your so right

Wait!

Sentret 😎

[real prairie]

ofc, my apologies

[torn parrot]

Lol

My head hurts

[real prairie]

y?

[foggy lodge]

https://youtu.be/A9d1ssgCG-w?si=t4PNUTxJmWmS6pte

[next stump]

hell yeah!!!

[molten oasis]

POG

[twin kindle]

Help that’s so cool

[real prairie]

Wheeeyyyyy

That's my morning watch sorted

Thanks for sharing @foggy lodge

[gentle crag]

oneofakindof has given 1 Gen Rep to maxihd

[mint void]

imma watch it tonight

[molten oasis]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2302794036 realistically probably could have just played stellar Tera here

But uh, LORB raging bolt go brr

[torn parrot]

HELL YEAHHHHH FINALLY!!!!

BAAAAA

[mint void]

@real prairieimma try a team with Colo. If its fun Imma run it next GC

he looks funny and anoying

[real prairie]

Haha be my guest

[torn parrot]

You deserve the vid congrats

👑

You are truly the ludicolo king

[molten oasis]

Why didn’t he take indeedee im confused

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2302806698

also hyper offense Zac feels really good honestly, may just stick with that. I feel like constant pressure puts me in good spots a lot

[real prairie]

Thank you thank you x

[gentle crag]

oneofakindof has given 1 Gen Rep to mayahoppins

[torn parrot]

Looks like a really strong team

[molten oasis]

It is

It just dishes consistent damage

Which is great

[real prairie]

I recognise that screenshot @proven storm

Bravo again bro, you are getting deserved credit

[left bobcat]

ITS MASSIVE

[proven storm]

Yeah I thought I'd post it

[real prairie]

Why not!

[proven storm]

Just don't check my profile, I post pretty spicy and stupid things

[real prairie]

Right back to Reddit I go

[torn parrot]

Awesome climb ^^

[proven storm]

Thanks :3

[gentle crag]

hugh_mungus321 has given 1 Gen Rep to mayahoppins

[proven storm]

I'm at like 2090 now

[real prairie]

Haha your profile is fine @proven storm , some questionable sub Reddit names but you didn't make those 🤣

[proven storm]

I more mean that I get into constant political arguments

[real prairie]

Ah politics is like an arsehole, we all have one and it's usually full of shit anyway 🤣

[molten oasis]

Reddit’s weird lol

[real prairie]

So I tend not to stress over it

[real prairie]

Indeed

[torn parrot]

You guys are kicking ass out there

[molten oasis]

Meh, I’m in 1200’s lol

I wanna play this team in cart tho

[left bobcat]

Man got a headache so bad I’m wearing a bandana

I’m finally home

[shadow wind]

Yknow what else is massive?

[left bobcat]

GIGA IMPACT

[molten oasis]

Stfu

[shadow wind]

Lugia is doing a whole lot better than I was expecting

[left bobcat]

SHRIMP MAC AND CHEESE

[shadow wind]

That's what I'm sayin

[molten oasis]

Almost there

[shadow wind]

Taking a break cause Lugia makes me think hard

And somehow I forgot the properties of Moongeist beam

Almost cooked me

[molten oasis]

Oh yea mold breaker move

[shadow wind]

Mhm

Although it did like 40%…

Thank you Lugia, gods given assault vest

Then add Calm mind and that thing don’t die

[left bobcat]

Collard greens

[dense latch]

no more parties in la

[cyan smelt]

unless it's tera ghost spell tag astral barrage

[proven storm]

I am enjoying pokemon so much

[left bobcat]

Drink this

Oh oh

[left bobcat]

I’m enjoying my bed so much

🧃

[astral kelp]

:(

[next stump]

yeah unfortunately mythicals are always banned in VGC

[astral kelp]

mann

there are so many cool ones too

i kinda want to try something like this

i wonder how i can make it work

[left bobcat]

That’s a weird looking mythical

[astral kelp]

we moved pass that keep up smh

[left bobcat]

Nuh uh

[next stump]

pop bomb only really does damage if you have wide lens since it's so inaccurate

[molten oasis]

Nah lmao

[astral kelp]

Oh true

[left bobcat]

Oh false

[molten oasis]

Kyogre has missed every origin pulse

That’s so ass

[mint void]

Showdown is fucking trolling me

How tf

Does the Iron Valiant connect 2 Hypnosis through an accuracy drop? I

Why is his Whimsicotts Moonblast fucking Spirit Break?

I got my SpA dropped 3/4 times

Still won but wtf

[molten oasis]

Woah I started winning when origin pulse decided to work lmao

[molten oasis]

That’s insane

[rustic mountain]

i see the vision

[chrome knot]

the vision is it t8 sanan

and kylan has been playin it and farming toronto locals 😭

[rustic mountain]

i meant moreso like i see how it functions more now. ik its been doin well

[shadow wind]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2302885883

The holy grail of CTS

[placid mist]

Hello everyone, im looking to improve my ice rider balance team. ive been playing games on ladder bo3 and i feel like the team depends alot on TR and calyrex kinda feels really vunerable and useless without Tr set up and i dont want it to be like hard TR, anyone can help me find a solution to this would be nice. also thinking ogerpon might be weak here becuase it just clicks follow me and then dies always, im thinking amoongus might be a good replacement. Any feedback is appreciated
https://pokepast.es/50ea2ea0c8840bf7

[dense latch]

holy shit that actually kinda cooks

[shadow wind]

Yeah in CTS

[molten oasis]

Whens the get every restricted to 1500 bo3 edition coming out

[shadow wind]

When Groudon fails me after I'm done this

My main isn't even 1500 on b03

Granted I'm 17-4

[dense latch]

i feel like you need a faster mode for your team

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-thano-marvel-snapped-gauntlet-gif-15240315

Failure is inevitable you’re playing groudon

[shadow wind]

I know 😔

[placid mist]

I think your right, what do you suggest

Ive been considering scarf ursh but I'm not too sure

[dense latch]

some sort of speed control

[molten oasis]

Moon or eleki

[dense latch]

you could go hirofumi and do flutter chi yu

and give calyrx some speed

[molten oasis]

Flutter also works I forgot about flutter

[foggy lodge]

Isn't this the top 16 worlds team

Go booster energy on raging

[molten oasis]

Wow, monke was right, chi flutter IS a bandaid

[foggy lodge]

Booster is free

[placid mist]

Why?

[molten oasis]

I play LORB with a free booster slot

[foggy lodge]

Cuz it's better lol

[molten oasis]

I don’t see an issue with it

[placid mist]

It might be i think I started with someone's team and made my own version

[foggy lodge]

Better damage than lorb and no recoil

[molten oasis]

It doesn’t force you to think about when to position bolt as hard

[foggy lodge]

The only downside is that you lose the boost if you switch out

[molten oasis]

You only get it 1 time and then it just wants to sit there

Which, yea that’s the only downside you’re right

[foggy lodge]

But overall booster is just better and more with a team that once you get TR raging bolt can just stay there

[placid mist]

I like life orb cause it let's me switch without loosing the boost, and it stacks with sun if i ever fight a koraidon or a groudon

[molten oasis]

That’s also true

[foggy lodge]

CIR should already be good into Koraidon or Groudon

Against tera Groudon its a bit more problematic but like you just pin the glacial force the tera and you have raging cir

And if they tera you still just have HHP

[molten oasis]

If it Tera’s it probably doesn’t wanna eat boosted tbolt

[foggy lodge]

Koraidon just suffers a lot into CIR so that match up should be already very winnable without lorb + proto boost

[molten oasis]

Yea I guess now that I think about it you want LORB on faster bolt sets

Not really tr sets

[foggy lodge]

Lorb is only good with sun setters or when booster is already taken imo

[placid mist]

Alright ill take that into account

What about something like this? does this fix my problems?
https://pokepast.es/9008fec301a43eab

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/9abc396fe8d2c184 LORB boom

With open booster slot

[molten oasis]

This looks alr

[placid mist]

What do you think calyrexs speed should be?

idk about min spe

[molten oasis]

Just go adamant no speed invest then

[astral kelp]

why do people hate kyurem

its got so much special atta ck

[foggy lodge]

Bad in everything else

[astral kelp]

his bulks is pretty good

surely snow team right

[foggy lodge]

Its ice and is forced to play A9 (mid mon) to work

You can tera but like its still meh

What is its speed like 90 right

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 646: Kyurem-White

Types

Dragon/Ice

Abilities

Turboblaze

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

125/120/90/170/100/95

Total

700

Base Species

Kyurem

Sableye version 4.28.1

[astral kelp]

yea 95

[foggy lodge]

Its a blizzard spam mon and nothing else

[astral kelp]

i feel like its with aurora vail and snow its like unkillable

[foggy lodge]

Again, relies on A9 a super mid mon to work

[astral kelp]

mannn thats sad

i cant even put a focus sash in there

[molten oasis]

I don’t think it’s bad everywhere else

[astral kelp]

What item should I give kyurem?

It's one of my favorite pokemons as a kid

[molten oasis]

Kyurem white I don’t think is an overall bad mon it’s just kinda forced to play with a9 and blizzard spam, at which point just play CIR

[molten oasis]

Specs

[astral kelp]

I feel like specs is good but I'm thinking that it might need scarf since it's kinda slow

[molten oasis]

Don’t play scarf

[astral kelp]

Also ice burn does is 140 base damage with power herb that's kinda crazy right

[molten oasis]

Imo you either wanna build the guy with specs bulky or pure offensive or just play bulky assault vest

[torn parrot]

What does glaciate animation look like I wonder

[molten oasis]

Not worth

[molten oasis]

Slightly different icy wind I think

[torn parrot]

Neat

[astral kelp]

Yeah honestly blizzard does 110 damage already

Imagine if ice burn didn't need the charge

[molten oasis]

It’s different when meteor beam gives you a +1 and this doesn’t

[twin kindle]

Miraidon dmg

[astral kelp]

Kyurem has the advantage of looking cool as shit

Ezpz

[molten oasis]

Ong fr

[astral kelp]

Fairy or water?

[solid frigate]

110 Base damage x spread

[molten oasis]

Fire

Fusion flare boost

[astral kelp]

Oh true

[torn parrot]

This is truth

[solid frigate]

Freeze Dry to hit water types and Earth Power for coverage

[torn parrot]

would I be a horse when I can be a fucking dragon

A cyborg fused dragon

[astral kelp]

Horses are fucking lame and the rider has a dumbass head frfr

[solid frigate]

is it really a Cyborg

So far Cyborg Fused Dragon is only Miraidon

[astral kelp]

Yea it is right?

Apparantly kyurem is a shell

[molten oasis]

The whole lore is that Kyurem is the shell of the original dragon I believe

I wanna see the original dragon so bad

[solid frigate]

yeah so its not a cyborg

[torn parrot]

It looks kinda like a cyborg when the tubes come out of its tail

[astral kelp]

Kyurem is canonically hollow

[astral kelp]

Dude that would be crazy how tf have they not revealed that yet

[solid frigate]

Zygarde:STOP

[twin kindle]

Def legends Kyurem

[torn parrot]

Its time for BLACK AND WHITE REMAKES

[molten oasis]

Oh

[torn parrot]

In 5 years

[molten oasis]

Aren’t we a weekish away from pokemon day

[torn parrot]

!!!!!

[astral kelp]

I would love a black and white remake

[twin kindle]

No Legends kyurem would be the most wasted Opportunity ever

[torn parrot]

OMfg NEWS NEWS NEWS

NEWS NEWS NEWS NEWS

ITS NEWS TIME

[astral kelp]

It was my favorite gen when it came out

[molten oasis]

Watch them be like “here’s a new update on Unite and Pocket” and continue to leave us in the dark on ZA

This sounds awfully familiar

[twin kindle]

Gen 10 trust /j

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/hollow-knight-silksong-hollow-knight-silksong-gif-16075047530947414312

[astral kelp]

Should I go tánky kyurem investing in hp or should I invest in speed?

[molten oasis]

Depends on the rest of the team