competitive_discussion

[proven storm]

I'm pretty sure I watched a Wolfe Glick video where a game in a tournament literally came down to a confused pokemon having 0 atk IVs and living on like 10hp

It makes sense to optimise that much at the highest level

[chrome knot]

yus

and like doing so is such a mundane task like 😭

[next stump]

i lost my win and in at NAIC because i wanted to use a shiny farigiraf and it came down to gothitelle vs farig

we just clicked foul play and I lost by one foul play

20ATK IV rip

[chrome knot]

wh-if you had asked me I could’ve found a shiny 0atk😭

also do u want this foonguss raid? @next stump its 0atk/27spe

shiny & a woman

[proven storm]

Ngl this is what stopped me playing pokemon for so long

I LOVE making my way through the game for the first time

I LOVE the pvp

I hate hate HATE with the burning passion of a billion suns the grinding to MAKE a team

[chrome knot]

its pretty fun tbh

[proven storm]

You better not mean the grind 😤

[chrome knot]

the grind is fun bc then you learn alot abt how the games function

[proven storm]

You'd love WoW then

[foggy pike]

Definitely had fun EV training my first shiny on this save. The grind is fun

But the rest of the grind I've yet to experience. It might change

[proven storm]

I just use vitamins

[chrome knot]

so in ur free time you get stuff like shiny matching pokemon with the IVs bring you and your gfs birthdays together

[azure ether]

Games are fun until spreadsheets introduce themselves

[foggy pike]

Trueee

[chrome knot]

whys that? I love my mu spreadsheets

[proven storm]

I WANNA PLAY A GAME NOT MICROSOFT EXCEL

[foggy pike]

When I get to that point, I'll need to figure out how to make & read one. Then I'll find it fun

[azure ether]

I tried Pasrs once and it was not fun

[chrome knot]

pasrs, spams & the vgc calculator I prob have more time on than running sets

[proven storm]

Does anyone know if you can get the ev reset mochi in the easiest ogre ousting?

[next stump]

man we have had a lot of new faces pop in this chat the past few days

very awesome to see

[timber falcon]

https://tenor.com/view/your-meme-is-mine-meme-your-meme-jotaro-pucci-gif-27054726

[proven storm]

Holy moly Flutter Mane is ridiculous

I have barely anything invested in spatk and it still one shots Koraidon with Moonblast

[azure ether]

Well it's Koraidon

[real prairie]

4x super effective

[proven storm]

Yeah true 4x weakness

It's just such a good counter to it

[real prairie]

My whimsicott one shots it 🤣

With 20SpAtk investment lol

[azure ether]

It's such a travesty that Koraidon is a tera hog

[proven storm]

Rage powder is so strong btw

My Zamazenta managed to solo their sash Urshifu and uhm... paradox salamence because of using rage powder 2 turns in a row

I mean the paradox salamence being double intimidated helped

[real prairie]

Roaring moon

[proven storm]

That's the one

[knotty mirage]

Kinda sad it got bad typing compared to miraidon

[azure ether]

What's with the resurgence of Roaring Moon usage this regulation?

[knotty mirage]

Miraidon got good typing and synergyze well with the ability

[proven storm]

My best friend, rest in peace, had the most awful take when scarlet and violet came out lmao

He was convinced koraidon was gonna be broken in pvp and miraidon was trash

[next stump]

it syngergizes well as a tailwind setter on kyogre teams

[real prairie]

Fast knock off, murders grass types, TW setter

[next stump]

knock off is also a great move

[knotty mirage]

If only koraidon just a fire/dragon type but this is like the second time we got restricted sun setter that's not fire type

[azure ether]

Not deterred by Flutter Mane anymore?

[chrome knot]

in my playing vs some rly random teams era

[proven storm]

I was debating between knock off and throat chop on my incineroar but knock off is just so much better 90% of the time

[next stump]

if you just run tera flying it's not too big of a threat

[timber falcon]

just be aware of potential safetey goggles incins

[proven storm]

Safety goggles stop rage powder?

[timber falcon]

yep

[azure ether]

All powder moves in general

[proven storm]

Huh. TIL

[chrome knot]

i just spam ladder games😭 but like csr sylveon is so silly bc I know given the chance that mf was tera ghost copycat

[proven storm]

I just keep bouncing between rank 8 and 9 🙃

[azure ether]

I wish I had the willpower to do ladder like before

[real prairie]

Should try that with tera water copycat my scarf water spout 🤣

[chrome knot]

LOL

[proven storm]

My biggest issue is I feel like I should almost always be taking Incineroar, but I don't know when to take Amogus vs Rillaboom. I guess if there's a Miraidon, Rillaboom is probs better to change terrain

Because I don't want Incin/Rilla/Amogus, that's like 0 damage

[real prairie]

Rilla should have great damage output

[proven storm]

I mean it's okay but if they resist grass it's not

[real prairie]

Grassy terrain booster wood hammers HURT

[left bobcat]

Should

[proven storm]

Plus my set is

244HP 116Atk 20Def 76SpD 52Spe

With assault vest

Wow terrible spacing

[real prairie]

Yeah quite low Atk investment

Oh you fixed it

🤣

[proven storm]

Yeah not 20 atk lmao

[real prairie]

Yeah that should still hit hard wood hammers

[next stump]

what's the rest of your team?

[real prairie]

Urshifu, flutter, Zama right?

[proven storm]

Zamazenta
Flutter Mane
Chien-Pao

[proven storm]

No Urshifu

[real prairie]

Ah right

[azure ether]

Sounds like a set I saw from MDB

[next stump]

amoonguss has the edge over rilla in matchups where spore is VERY strong

same with redirection against stuff like urshifu

[proven storm]

Besides Zama and Chien which someone here recommended because of the synergy, the others were basically just "well these are good pokemon, in they go"

[chrome knot]

Dillon what restricted are u on rn

[proven storm]

My name's the same btw but it's Dylan

Superior spelling

[next stump]

calyrex ice

but tbh haven't been playing too much as of late outside of locals once every couple of weeks

[chrome knot]

W me too

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-it-with-fire-gif-915939341735819264

[next stump]

super big fan of screens calyrex ice, i've been having a lot of fun with it

[azure ether]

Is Icerex still ran as hard TR now or nah

[next stump]

usually no but it can be

[chrome knot]

WHATDA

im on cir pao rn

[azure ether]

Cuz I wanna learn running it for next locals in like 2 months

[proven storm]

Does anyone here live in Australia btw?

Curious if there are events in Aus

[real prairie]

Yeah a couple peeps

@cyan smelt for one

[proven storm]

I'd love to go to some locals

Tbh regardless of the gripes I have with the game, I love the pokemon community

More welcoming and helpful and less toxic than 99% of other games

[next stump]

yes, they just announced a regional championship in melbourne

[proven storm]

Ooo

I live near Melbourne, I'll have to look into that

[next stump]

like the farig/scarf ursh one?

[chrome knot]

ye

the tanner mask team but I adjusted a little bit of it

[next stump]

I think that team looks very fun, it's a lot like the team I used to bring in reg E

[chrome knot]

its strong, I was playing swm fairy cir/scarf chi yu for a little then I noticed Kylan has been farming Toronto locals with it

had to give it a try and liked it alot tbh

[next stump]

https://pokepast.es/05a9f447871a761c this is what i was originally on to win a few locals

i think im bring this today https://pokepast.es/856e4a91949ed6bb

a lot of miraidon players at my locals

so gonna do like tera fairy amoonguss, tera fairy caly, and bolt

[proven storm]

Tera fairy amoonguss slaps

It's the tera I run too

[next stump]

yeah it's super nice into a lot of the meta

[proven storm]

I'm not sure about all of my teras tbh

[chrome knot]

fan of water

like resisting scary stuff

[proven storm]

Zama is dragon, fluttermane is grass, incin is ghost, chien is stellar, rilla is grass and amogus is fairy

[proven storm]

Water's good

[stray girder]

was galarian darmanitan good when it was in swsh?

[proven storm]

I just got absolutely destroyed by a torkoal sun team

[next stump]

no

[stray girder]

wish it was i sv

[dense latch]

i’ve been running the same six lately, if you don’t mind sharing that info are the lando and ursh sets similar to those in the tang gang team?

idk if i want faster sets for eweb or bulkier for twave

[next stump]

my lando is max max timid

i saw they ran SUPER bulky and I think that has value for sure but it's very very nice knowing you straight up outspeed stuff like ursh/chi-yu/most ogerpon/etc.

and my urshifu set is kinda random... like I wasn't exactly sure how to EV mystic water urshifu super well

so I'd be giving bad info sharing it hahaha

[dense latch]

i never know when to bring bolt

[dense latch]

lmao i doubt it’s worse than some i’ve cooked up

[left bobcat]

whenever you see the water kung fu bear or the big whale

[chrome knot]

my mystic water sets are usually live 1 lorb astral barrage @ neutral but enough atk to put it in jet range if mid bulk

[next stump]

AV bolt with screens is good into miraidon, good into kyogre, can be good into koraidon

a lot of it's utility is pressuing stuff into tera grass

[dense latch]

i bring it sometimes into certain fwg cores here and there since it’s a strong def switch in too aside from ogre and ursh

[next stump]

yep, has a ton of use in those matchups too

plus with ewebs you can set up your pokemon well

[rustic mountain]

it was ok for the first few swsh szns, wasnt ever really meta tho

think it was more of a singles staple

i used it a decent amount wen i first started, more the unovan one tho

wen it was legal ofc

[next stump]

UB Slow made a zacian team

[real prairie]

Ooo time for another funny translation

[proven storm]

I've had so many pokemon streamers recommended to me on YouTube since starting to play violet again

Theyknow.jpg

[real prairie]

What about dragon?

Zacian loves a refreshment

[rustic mountain]

"stop zerif"

"what about dragon?"

[dense latch]

rillaboom really likes glass huh

[rustic mountain]

u tell me ur the translation

[mint void]

10mm bolt

how do they know its 10 mm?

[rustic mountain]

i love how some translations are exact and others are just a complete mess

[proven storm]

My favourite international pokemon name is "Gorythmic" for Rillaboom

I think it's French but it'd work in English too

[left bobcat]

Ahh refreshment

How refreshing

What about dragon?

[next stump]

there are some REALLY good ones

makes me wish I had friends with other language games

[real prairie]

I empathize with bolt

[mint void]

I emphasize. cant relate tho

[dense latch]

i used to have a french golduck pokemon card when i was younger, i thought akwakwak was the funniest shit ever

[left bobcat]

WHAT ABOUT DRAGON

[rustic mountain]

felinferno is really good for incin

or something like that iirc

[left bobcat]

Daichi’s power is really good for incin

Or something like that

[chrome knot]

Ferropalmas & Electrofuria my beloveds

[dense latch]

colagrito up there too

[foggy lodge]

Manoferrea

[left bobcat]

Ferrosaco

[next stump]

demetros

[foggy lodge]

https://fxtwitter.com/flbreglass/status/1890986616027566235?t=0eoTDZQv5fajLa0JlxvN2g&s=19

[next stump]

just trying to get some practice before a local LOL

[twin kindle]

Hope everyone has a nice day

[spiral ridge]

Imagine the game notes if you lost 😭

[left bobcat]

I hope everyone has a glacial lance day

[chrome knot]

I can run sets if u need 😭

[charred saddle]

thats uh what

interesting

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 128: Tauros

Type

Normal

Abilities

Intimidate, Anger Point, Sheer Force (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/100/95/40/70/110

Total

490

Other Formes

Tauros-Paldea-Combat, Tauros-Paldea-Blaze, Tauros-Paldea-Aqua

Sableye version 4.28.1

Pokémon No. 128: Tauros-Paldea-Aqua

Types

Fighting/Water

Abilities

Intimidate, Anger Point, Cud Chew (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/110/105/30/70/100

Total

490

Base Species

Tauros

Sableye version 4.28.1

[bold geode]

Hey that's the sauce bro
You should copy it

[wispy spade]

On a mew, what 4 type moves would i get to have as much coverage as possible?

Is it possible to get something super effective against all type combinations?

[solid frigate]

wtf

[solid frigate]

somewhat not as unusual here hmmmmmm

[foggy lodge]

Its pretty normal

Frederik spamming his Sneasler again

[dense latch]

minjun oh team’s pretty interesting

i’ve never seen korai smeargle before

[foggy lodge]

I like Harada, Guezi and Fontvieilli's teams

Kyogre with Ursaluna Farigiraf is interesting

[solid frigate]

i would not think that is unusual

[foggy lodge]

Yeah but he is been playing that team since december

And won one and got second on the other one

Maybe he wins again lmao

[trim hound]

Psychic, Rock, some two other big ones

[left bobcat]

The big 3

[tiny karma]

Mew's moveset: (Physical)

Acrobatics, Aerial Ace, Aqua Tail, Assurance, Avalanche, Beat Up, Bide, Bind, Blaze Kick, Body Press, Body Slam, Bounce, Brave Bird, Breaking Swipe, Brick Break, Brutal Swing, Bug Bite, Bulldoze, Bullet Seed, Close Combat, Counter, Covet, Cross Poison, Crunch, Cut, Darkest Lariat, Dig, Dive, Double-Edge, Dragon Claw, Dragon Tail, Drain Punch, Drill Run, Dual Chop, Dual Wingbeat, Dynamic Punch, Earthquake, Egg Bomb, Endeavor, Explosion, Facade, Fake Out, False Swipe, Feint Attack, Fire Fang, Fire Punch, Fissure, Flame Charge, Flare Blitz, Fling, Flip Turn, Fly, Focus Punch, Foul Play, Frustration, Fury Cutter, Giga Impact, Grassy Glide, Gunk Shot, Gyro Ball, Hard Press, Headbutt, Heat Crash, Heavy Slam, High Horsepower, Horn Drill, Ice Fang, Ice Punch, Ice Spinner, Icicle Spear, Iron Head, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Lash Out, Last Resort, Leaf Blade, Leech Life, Liquidation, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Lunge, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Megahorn, Metal Claw, Natural Gift, Outrage, Pay Day, Payback, Petal Blizzard, Phantom Force, Pin Missile, Play Rough, Pluck, Poison Jab, Poison Tail, Poltergeist, Pounce, Pound, Power Whip, Power-Up Punch, Psychic Fangs, Psycho Cut, Rage, Razor Shell, Retaliate, Return, Revenge, Reversal, Rock Blast, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Rollout, Sand Tomb, Scale Shot, Secret Power, Seed Bomb, Seismic Toss, Self-Destruct, Shadow Claw, Skitter Smack, Skull Bash, Sky Attack, Sky Drop, Smack Down, Smart Strike, Solar Blade, Steel Roller, Steel Wing, Stomping Tantrum, Stone Edge, Strength, Submission, Sucker Punch, Super Fang, Supercell Slam, Superpower, Tail Slap, Take Down, Temper Flare, Thief, Throat Chop, Thunder Fang, Thunder Punch, Trailblaze, Triple Axel, U-turn, Upper Hand, Waterfall, Wild Charge, X-Scissor, Zen Headbutt

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Mew.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[trim hound]

I hate this fuck's movepool lmao

It's a Bo1 nightmare waiting to happen

[wispy spade]

Does mew count as a restricted?

[chrome knot]

no

its a mythical

[trim hound]

We literally had to have this conversation yesterday

[wispy spade]

I didn't read it, so you have to endure it again

Psychic, ice, fighting..?

[trim hound]

Rock, Bug, Psychic STAB, fill

[wispy spade]

Bug?

[trim hound]

good into Grass/Psychic/Dark

[wispy spade]

That makes sense on mew

[trim hound]

I'm also assuming you are going with a Choice item

[wispy spade]

Specs or AV i think

Maybe scarf

[trim hound]

I'd actually go band

[dense latch]

you need something to hit steel

neither psychic rock and bug hit it

whatever covers the most out of fire ground or fighting

[trim hound]

Zen Headbutt, U-Turn, Rock Slide, EQ/Stomping Tantrum/Ground Tera Blast

Tera Blast pulling double duty with Normal turning into Ground

but probably more likely Stomping Tantrum or High Horsepower

[wispy spade]

[left bobcat]

Once upon a time

[wispy spade]

Oh no

[dense latch]

puerto rico special event lmao

[trim hound]

The Rizzler

TAKE ME GOD

[wispy spade]

What's a rizzler?

[dense latch]

ignorance is bliss sometimes

[trim hound]

oh you sweet summer child

[wispy spade]

I am scared of looking it up now

[dense latch]

it's really nothing too bad lol it's just a kid that does a face

[trim hound]

that's what the uninitiated say

[foggy lodge]

wuajdkdk

Which round are they playing?

Round 7 still?

[dense latch]

this is one of the earlier rounds

im watching the ones i missed

[next stump]

i still can’t believe they had a lunch break during a 6 round day 1

i’d be pissed as a player

[foggy lodge]

And i think they are still on a break

https://tenor.com/view/silly-cat-silly-car-car-stare-10-thousand-yard-stare-10-thousand-yard-gif-14200271775968563996

[next stump]

💀

[chrome knot]

0spe and i burnt it by accidnet

[dense latch]

o i just saw you on jeudy's stream

[trim hound]

just Master Ball it and call it a day

[dense latch]

good luck

[chrome knot]

its for a friend

just funny that this is the 3rd 0spe cir ive accidentally killed

[foggy lodge]

I have to get a 0 atk one

[chrome knot]

i have a 0atk one

[left bobcat]

Just start throwing balls

[chrome knot]

it died lmao

[left bobcat]

Oh

Well throw revive and full restore and do it again

[foggy lodge]

That's why i use mons with heal pulse

One never knows what can happen

[left bobcat]

I just throw balls

Well put them to sleep then throw balls

[cinder rose]

whats the best build and moveset for inteleon?

[left bobcat]

For what?

[left bobcat]

I have an answer for that

[trim hound]

Playing Urshifu-Rapid instead

[left bobcat]

Now hold on

[cinder rose]

singles

[left bobcat]

I wanna hear them out

[left bobcat]

Oh-

[trim hound]

Damn, bro immediately stopped giving a fuck

[real prairie]

Evening folks, what's cooking?

Omw back from my dad's, old man cooks a mean roast dinner

[real prairie]

(he owns a restaurant)

[real prairie]

Nice stuff

[solid frigate]

Carvery wooo

[real prairie]

Haha not exactly but yeah, typical Sunday roast dinner

[placid mist]

Guys do you think that Shadow-Rider balance or ice rider balance is easier to play?

[real prairie]

Mmhh good question

Ice is probably easier because you have less chance of making a mistake and having CIR just dead

Whereas you mess up with CSR it can easily be OHKOd

[mint void]

singles?

[cinder rose]

yes

[mint void]

idk ngl

Id say maybe scarf+coverage?

[real prairie]

Specs
Ice beam,
Shadow ball
Hydro pump
U turn

[cinder rose]

alr thanks

[real prairie]

Snipe shot is an option instead of hydro pump if you don't want to risk the miss

[cinder rose]

anybody know a good support pokemon i could use?

[mint void]

ngl we are mostly doubles/VGC

what support are u looking for? Rocks?

Speed control?

Screens?

[cinder rose]

screens

[mint void]

Grimmsnarl

[charred saddle]

think i saw like klefki quite nice for singles

[mint void]

or espeon

yeah klef also cause it gets hazards too

[charred saddle]

also being able to go into poison spikes

[real prairie]

A9 with eject pack is good for singles

[real prairie]

Fast set up for Arora veil and then bounce out if hit

Nice nod to Wukong/Goku

[molten oasis]

Very nice card

[chrome knot]

losing USPL to brian youm bc I miss a 62.5% roll feel like a plate of spaghetti

[silent heath]

looking for people to build teams with! 🙂 played pokémon for about 18 years

[left bobcat]

What’s cooking good lookin

[real prairie]

You flirt you

[left bobcat]

🤣

Anytime someone says cooking that’s the first thing that comes to mind

[real prairie]

Haha same

[left bobcat]

Haha Dave

[real prairie]

Lost me there ngl 🤣

[foggy lodge]

Finally got a 0 atk Landorus lol

[left bobcat]

Found me there can gonna lie

[real prairie]

2x copycat mons and an ostrich

[molten oasis]

hey

dont disgrace my goat gapdos

[real prairie]

Ostrich are my favourite animal

Seriously

[molten oasis]

nice, i've been wanting to make gapdos and zac work i just dont have motivation to play rn

[real prairie]

Id love to get gapdos to work but then I'd have to try get one for cart 🤣

[molten oasis]

real

i just want a defiant mon and i made gapdos work really well in reg f way back when. i can probably do it again

[torn parrot]

All the Snow White hate is just making it more popular

People are dumb

[bold geode]

Spaghetti sounds nice

[bold geode]

The movie looks ugly asf

[torn parrot]

It honestly just looks like every other uninspired ugly Disney live action remake to me

the actress is definitely more annoying about it tho

[bold geode]

Yeah well we rebel still

(I haven't, idgaf about it)

[torn parrot]

I feel like it’ll be Velma all over again

Well

Velma was at least was memeable

[solid frigate]

i already lose hope when Disney just rigged the results compete with Sonic 3

[chrome knot]

https://x.com/SerebiiNet/status/1891264572029387083

Serebii.net (@SerebiiNet) on X

Serebii Update: Pokémon Scarlet & Violet will feature the return of Walking Wake and Iron Leaves in raid battles from February 21st 2025 through February 27th 2025

https://t.co/NWlAdn57aQ

X · Feb 16, 2025, 11:13 PM

FINALLLYYYYYY

[torn parrot]

Wow they’re back

[real prairie]

Think I got both but I'll need to double check

[mint void]

Big

Anyway. Im so frustrated. Im so inconsistent its not even funny. I lost 2 games yday from like 30.
Today I won 2. Granted I stopped after 7 games cause yeah

[molten oasis]

I think I have both

[left bobcat]

I got both

I still like walking wake to this day

[bold geode]

I got both

[molten oasis]

fellas hear me out

172 Atk Sword of Ruin Tera-Stellar Zacian-Crowned Close Combat (1st Use) vs. 244 HP / 196+ Def Incineroar: 190-224 (94.5 - 111.4%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

that would kill less bulky incin

[cyan smelt]

until they tera ghost and parting shot intim cycle

[molten oasis]

you're gonna tera ghost infront of pao?

[cyan smelt]

i had it happen on cart

throat chop isn't enough to ko bulky incin

at -1

[molten oasis]

no but its a major chunk

and if they tera bblade is online

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-endgame-hulk-bruce-banner-i-see-this-as-an-absolute-win-gif-17006739

[lofty tartan]

But it is enough to prevent Parting Shot from being used.

[cyan smelt]

ig it does force them to hard switch

[molten oasis]

yep

plus i play zacian to kinda be on the field typically later, but it gives me some comfort in leading it

[lofty tartan]

Granted, the likelihood of a player clicking Throat Chop into an Incin trying to call Ghost Tera is like hard read territory.

It can either go well, or really badly for you

[molten oasis]

yea, i think its an ok idea

i'd have to test it a lot but i also notice i have zac on the field for like 2-3 turns max

which, it can use close combat and still eat a hit

[bold geode]

Hello sir

[lofty tartan]

Hi

[foggy lodge]

Rocky helmet Incin is a problem for it too

[lofty tartan]

Sorry - currently editing a JSON file so I didn't see this immediately xD

[foggy lodge]

fucking rocky helmet let me preserve my sash

[left bobcat]

But asap rocky

[chrome knot]

ARE YOU GOING TO VANCOUVER!?

[lofty tartan]

Nah. Vancouver is basically a country away, living in Maine. That's one hell of a trip that I just don't have the money for right now.

[chrome knot]

oahhhh

:((( when will i see u next

[lofty tartan]

I plan to keep plugging away at VGC. Looking forward to Reg I - working on a career change that'll sort my financials, but requires a lot of learning.

So... maybe next season? The remaining Regionals locales are not very good for my wallet

And so far I've had a break for all of Reg G and it makes me feel pretty refreshed.

I had a good run at Toronto, but it easily could've been better, and I need to trust my gut and give myself more credit :]

[foggy lodge]

Makes sense

[left bobcat]

Make it make sense

[foggy lodge]

A lot of people is already burned of the format

[left bobcat]

From state to state

[lofty tartan]

I didn't have much high hope for Reg G 2.0 - new formats are always more exciting for me than rehashed ones. 😄

[foggy lodge]

Personally i like reg G a lot but putting 4 months of reg G + 4 months of reg H and then 4 more months of reg G is probably one of the worst things they could have done

[molten oasis]

should have gone straight to double

[left bobcat]

This is flack0

And you’re watching reg g

On reg g +

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/b1d56bd8f9f75741 hehe close combat zac

[trim hound]

it's because Reg G is solved already

[lofty tartan]

And just doing a second run of a format that was sorta lukewarm to begin with just makes people bored.

[proven storm]

Some pokemon streamer said something really interesting

He feels like 1 restricted is a lot less balanced than 2 restricted because with only 1 you can get into matchups that are basically auto lose

More matchups*

[mint void]

Idk. Kinda 8f your team is to centered on supporting the restricted its a loss as soon as u lose it.

But you could just call that bad team building

[foggy lodge]

Mostly

Some teams came out in the second run like chinese sun or tang team but still

Its hard to really innovate at this point

You have like 1-2 niche picks to solve match ups or get some modes and that's it

[proven storm]

His point is that there's just less blowouts if there's 2 restricteds

Regardless I can't wait for the next regulation, I've only been playing ranked for 3 days and I'm already getting tired of it

Bring back jank teams

[mint void]

Jup

[proven storm]

It's 8:49, she got me doing that rain dance
My homegirl fucked up too, pussy doing that rain dance

It feels weird listening to this kind of music while playing pokemon ngl

Also, random question, do you think having Incin/Rilla/Amogus is too many support pokemon on one team?

I just got to ultra ball tier not bad for the first 3 days of pvp since genv

[foggy lodge]

Eh

Some teams use them all

Rilla is not a full support tho that mon hits hard AF

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/rillaboom-wood-hammer-pokemon-gif-7274090915577562669

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2302186634

Ok that guy has MAJOR Skill issue of not leading Lando

[shadow wind]

Why were they allergic to tail wind

[solid frigate]

idfk

[molten oasis]

top 10 worst leads into miraidon

unsure why he took shifu into hands mirai whimsi lmao

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2302190188-5c0kte03i0wbbec267iyohanbx5hof3pw

Ok he throw his lead lmao

[molten oasis]

nah not the tera fire tornadus lmao

[foggy lodge]

Moon CIR mode into Miraidon Whimsicott lmao

Against Miraidon i usually just lead Ogerpon CIR or Ogerpon Landorus

[solid frigate]

i try to lead more and sometimes switch leads depend on situations

[foggy lodge]

And Amoonguss in the back because i need something to absorb damage

[solid frigate]

i kinda just

Try my old team for a bit

[left bobcat]

Moon

What about dragon

[foggy lodge]

Actually isn't

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2302192860

Ok why DID YOU TERA AGAINST A MIRAIDON

[foggy lodge]

The Miraidon Hearthflame line the best line inti Tang team

[solid frigate]

252+ SpA Choice Specs Hadron Engine Miraidon Electro Drift (173 BP) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Tera Water Calyrex-Ice in Electric Terrain: 528-624 (255 - 301.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Does that make that person think that Tera Water CIR is a good move-

[molten oasis]

tbh

i think he was expecting damage form ogerpon, which even then hes stupid asf lol

also bro click tr lmao

[solid frigate]

yeah cuz Iron Valiant can't OHKO Miraidon so yeah i just nuke CIR despite anything

[solid frigate]

i swear CIR Mains can be splited into two groups

Ones that does not click TR and lose

And

Absolutely Cracked

[molten oasis]

im more annoyed at that guy cuz tr was so free

[solid frigate]

i think he was anticipate my Iron Hands being well

Slower than CIR

cuz mine is min speed brave

[molten oasis]

he also had seed bomb

oh, wait i dont think he would have been able to set tr

i dont think seed bomb sets run tr

[solid frigate]

idk

but Indeedee should have TR so yeah

i kinda killed their TR Option

also triple ice CIR team wtf

[dense latch]

i hate seeing a cir main have a free tr turn and just waste it

sometimes it makes sense to stall out tailwind if your support will live enough to hold tr for a turn or two

but if it’s a one chance thing it’s so hard to see

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2302199024

This is just embarassing

THIS IS WHAT IRON CROWN SUPPOSE TO BE

[left bobcat]

The dream is falling

[molten oasis]

the sucker punch not killing i think was funny asf

and then it just, spriraled

[left bobcat]

Very unfortunate

[solid frigate]

and then Iron Crown just nukes the team

196 SpA Expert Belt Quark Drive Tera Ground Iron Crown Tachyon Cutter (100 BP) (2 hits) vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Calyrex-Ice: 202-236 (97.5 - 114%) -- approx. 62.5% chance to OHKO

AHAHAHAHAHA

[molten oasis]

bro's a bit too into it

[dense latch]

i think this is the first time i’ve seen an HO cir team

[young sapphire]

anyone willing to hrlp me figure out things or got advice

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2302201851

yeah where is this performance in BHam ;-;

[molten oasis]

thats a stonejourner

[solid frigate]

i got 6 win streak thats like 3 set wins ;-;

kinda just focus on the Groudon cuz i can just nuke it

[shadow wind]

How am I 7-0 with Lugia 😭

Praise low ladder 🙏

[dense latch]

i don’t think people bring stonjourner to regionals

[solid frigate]

no i mean my performance

[molten oasis]

i fought someone with a scrafty at NAIC

[solid frigate]

damn

[left bobcat]

Somebody gotta do it

[proven storm]

I'm one win away from master ball and I'm too nervous to play

[next stump]

you got this

[shadow wind]

Lugia my saviour 🙏

Although to be fair any restricted is better than Kyurem black

[cyan smelt]

even mewtwo?

[molten oasis]

the only think i think might be genuinely worse is reshiram

[shadow wind]

It has psyspam

Impossible to be worse

[shadow wind]

Nah I'll cook with Reshiram

[left bobcat]

Blue flare

[shadow wind]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2302228547-5wt47oe323udkjdwa1099pe8te4bb1gpw

Raichu my goat 🙏

Thank you for trivializing the Miraidon MU in low elo

[solid frigate]

nah Reshiram at least has consistent stab options

[mint void]

Just do it

[solid frigate]

Reshiram @ Life Orb
Ability: Turboblaze
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 84 Def / 156 SpA / 16 Spe
Modest Nature
IVs: 0 Atk

• Blue Flare
• Draco Meteor
• Earth Power
• Protect

No wide Lens lmao

[molten oasis]

what set is that

[solid frigate]

god knows why

[tiny karma]

Move: Blue Flare

Has a 20% chance to burn the target.

Type

Fire

Category

Special

Power

130

Accuracy

85

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

consistent my ass

i'd rather use heat wave which isnt that consistent either

[shadow wind]

Sheer force Reshiram when?

[mint void]

D9esnt it get Fusion Flare or sth?

[solid frigate]

do you want to suffer for Kyurem Black?

[molten oasis]

i play zacian i already suffer with misses

[tiny karma]

Reshiram's moveset:

Physical Moves

Body Press, Body Slam, Breaking Swipe, Brutal Swing, Crunch, Cut, Double-Edge, Dragon Claw, Dragon Tail, Dual Wingbeat, Facade, Fire Fang, Flame Charge, Flare Blitz, Fling, Fly, Frustration, Giga Impact, Heat Crash, Outrage, Payback, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Smash, Rock Tomb, Scale Shot, Secret Power, Shadow Claw, Slash, Steel Wing, Stone Edge, Strength, Take Down, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Ancient Power, Blue Flare, Draco Meteor, Dragon Breath, Dragon Pulse, Dragon Rage, Earth Power, Echoed Voice, Extrasensory, Fire Blast, Fire Spin, Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Fusion Flare, Heat Wave, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Incinerate, Mystical Fire, Overheat, Psychic, Round, Scorching Sands, Shadow Ball, Snore, Solar Beam, Swift, Tera Blast, Weather Ball

Status Moves

Confide, Defog, Double Team, Dragon Cheer, Dragon Dance, Endure, Helping Hand, Hone Claws, Imprison, Laser Focus, Light Screen, Mist, Noble Roar, Protect, Rain Dance, Reflect, Rest, Roar, Roost, Safeguard, Scary Face, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Tailwind, Toxic, Will-O-Wisp

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Reshiram.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[shadow wind]

It does

I'd run heat wave and fusion flare

[mint void]

Wouldnt that be a more consistent option

[solid frigate]

you know Kyurem Black might be the worst Restricted imo

[shadow wind]

It sucked to use

[solid frigate]

like THE WORST

[mint void]

Its just baxcalibur

[shadow wind]

But 1500 nonetheless

[shadow wind]

Worse I'd say

No ice shard

[mint void]

No Glaive Rush either

[shadow wind]

And thermal exchange clears

[mint void]

And cheaper

[molten oasis]

uhm

the worst restricted is cosmog

[shadow wind]

☝️ 🤓

Bro ain't nobody considering Cosmog in this conversation

[molten oasis]

idk

[solid frigate]

Like Kyurem Black is just so god damn underwhelming

[molten oasis]

ok so we're saying giratina is better?

[solid frigate]

at least that got into top 8 in one of the Japan stuff

[twin kindle]

It’s Japan

[left bobcat]

Sushi

[solid frigate]

also im so god damn Annoyed by my computer can’t login consistently anymore

[wicked sparrow]

what’s a good moveset for salazzle in sv i really wanna use her love her shiny

[solid frigate]

i need to buy a new one-

[left bobcat]

Fake out-

[molten oasis]

goated country to visit

would HIGHLY recommend to anyone here

[cyan smelt]

Only Jamie boyt can use salazzle successfully

[mint void]

VGC probs fake out and maybe fast WillO or Poison gas.
Imma look up its move set

[cyan smelt]

Overheat ig

[left bobcat]

Dragon cheer

[cyan smelt]

You could run eject pack overheat salazzle because oblivious blocks intim

[mint void]

It has a solid supportive move pool. Can inflict about any status but sleep

[left bobcat]

I too am oblivious

[mint void]

Slow Encore Disable maybe.

[left bobcat]

Or fake out wisp dragon cheer flamethrower

[molten oasis]

its not a terrible mon

[cyan smelt]

Dragon cheer next to miraidon

[left bobcat]

You’ll never see it coming

[rustic mountain]

[molten oasis]

real lmfao

[left bobcat]

Reel

[foggy lodge]

Aka the broken region

[foggy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/holdhands-pokémon-pokemon-kyogre-groudon-gif-1899330884048717594

[molten oasis]

when rivals become friends

[left bobcat]

Noooooo

[solid frigate]

im gonna fucking hate Windows-

[molten oasis]

why

windows is goated

[solid frigate]

i got locked and I can’t login anymore

i have to buy a new laptop or get a Desktop

[calm gulch]

cant you factory reset

[solid frigate]

not really cuz i cant even do jt

at least its my birthday next week maybe i have a new computer idk

that also reminds me i have to update my NSO

[bold geode]

Up in my domain bitch

#BullyYosta

[proven storm]

Guys

I'm pretty hyped

[proven storm]

This is my first 3 days of playing ranked since black and white

[astral kelp]

is it just me or lunala sucks

[charred saddle]

depends on the MU and how u play it

[astral kelp]

i have it set like this

i feel like it does 0 damage

[charred saddle]

what why

i dont think thats optimal like at all

https://pokepast.es/0c1d861ec393fa40

[solid frigate]

w h y

[charred saddle]

https://pokepast.es/e1b6cd7a085cbec9

[astral kelp]

IDK i got that recomended

[solid frigate]

where is that from

[charred saddle]

well the question is, have u checked the credibilities tho

i think for lunala, its either,
-Calm mind moongeist moonblast tera fairy lefties/covert
-Meteorbeam set
-Eforce psyspam

[astral kelp]

i just googled lulana set

[charred saddle]

going away from this will be like weird

[astral kelp]

i had choice scarf before

[astral kelp]

that makes a lot more sense tbh

[charred saddle]

lunala isnt meant to be like the restricted to get quick ohkoes every turn

[astral kelp]

calm mind is really good

[charred saddle]

its definitely not like miraidon, CSR, CIR

[astral kelp]

are my evs good?

[charred saddle]

no?

[astral kelp]

i assume its supposed to be tanky?

[charred saddle]

i mean EVs are kinda subjective in a way?

it depends on the context of the team ur building

[astral kelp]

oh the team is most certainly shit

just trying out some pokemon i like

Comfey @ Life Orb  
Ability: Triage  
Shiny: Yes  
Tera Type: Steel  
EVs: 240 HP / 252 SpA / 16 Spe  
Modest Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Calm Mind  
- Draining Kiss  
- Encore  
- Floral Healing  

Lunala @ Choice Specs  
Ability: Shadow Shield  
Level: 50  
Tera Type: Fairy  
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe  
Modest Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Moongeist Beam  
- Ice Beam  
- Trick  
- Psyshock  

Sinistcha-Masterpiece @ Miracle Seed  
Ability: Hospitality  
Level: 50  
Tera Type: Water  
EVs: 100 Def / 108 SpA / 252 SpD / 48 Spe  
Modest Nature  
IVs: 0 Atk  
- Matcha Gotcha  
- Rage Powder  
- Life Dew  
- Nasty Plot  

Rillaboom  
Ability: Overgrow  
Level: 50  
Tera Type: Grass  

Raichu @ Assault Vest  
Ability: Lightning Rod  
Level: 50  
Shiny: Yes  
Tera Type: Flying  
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD  
- Fake Out  
- Electroweb  
- Volt Switch  
- Nuzzle  

Ogerpon-Wellspring (F) @ Wellspring Mask  
Ability: Water Absorb  
Level: 50  
Tera Type: Water  
EVs: 100 Atk / 172 Def / 88 SpD / 148 Spe  
Adamant Nature  
- Follow Me  
- Horn Leech  
- Ivy Cudgel  
- Spiky Shield  

ngl raichu feels really good

i had incin but im trying rilla

[charred saddle]

if ur playing a balance team and wants to set calm mind, bulkier is better.

if ur playing a bit of a more aggresive psyspams or Meteorbeam, i think u can kidna invest a bit on speed

[charred saddle]

better to use pokepaste next time to avoid text wall ig

[solid frigate]

yeah a lot of EVs feels weird for me

[charred saddle]

why the fuck do you have sinistcha, comfey and rilla in the same team

[astral kelp]

next time

[charred saddle]

• wellspring

[molten oasis]

Maximum healing

[astral kelp]

thats the comcept LMAO

[charred saddle]

but its squishy EV

how are you suppose to heal if ur dead by double upps

[astral kelp]

we dont talk about double upsw

[charred saddle]

also i dont like the type overlaps by
-fairy tera lunala and comfey (ig this is fine in some context)
-rilla, sinistcha and wellspring

[charred saddle]

?? its a common thing tho

• also ur specs. u cant protect

[astral kelp]

yeah for sure hahah

im kinda relying on the fake outs

[molten oasis]

Lando just explodes the team

[astral kelp]

im not very good at type destribution

im thinking if i change out incin to rilla i should change sinistcha to a fire type probably

[charred saddle]

well a better choice is to like check repository
see how a well built team is made (if ur looking for lunala, look up lunala)

and go from there

[astral kelp]

whats a good site to find teams and sets?

[molten oasis]

Lunala has a few different modes

[molten oasis]

Labmaus

[solid frigate]

i was gonna roast that team but i guess if you want Lunala to be good you can do Fake Out Cycling with Incin and Rilla

[charred saddle]

VGC repository and see the achievements

[astral kelp]

omg thats exactly what ive been looking for

[molten oasis]

Eww incin rilla

[solid frigate]

Bruh

[astral kelp]

its good fr

[molten oasis]

I know

I’m joking

[astral kelp]

wait i can just give flower guy synthesis

[molten oasis]

Don’t give comfey synthesis

[astral kelp]

i was like tryna enthesise opyness

[astral kelp]

synergises with rilla right

[solid frigate]

we are in the universe where comfey is called Flower guy.

[molten oasis]

That is what we like to call synergy bait

[solid frigate]

Triage literally makes Its healing move +3 priority

You could literally be faster than Rilla’s Fake Out lmao

[astral kelp]

fake out is +3 right?

[molten oasis]

Just because you can make it synergize doesn’t mean you should

[solid frigate]

looking at you Iron Bundle

[molten oasis]

Ong

[plain drum]

[molten oasis]

Bro is pink

[plain drum]

Indeed

[solid frigate]

ew

[charred saddle]

also, another way to look at synergize is
the move doesnt really do anything when its not paired with it

(ur now locked into that)

sometimes its better to be just flexible, or get more options covered

rather than forcing only 1 gameplan

[charred saddle]

there are some cases where it works like psyspams, or like prio spam of chienpao + CB Espeed

[molten oasis]

Tornshifu rain

[charred saddle]

but also, will feel lackluster when it doesnt go well or countered

[solid frigate]

thats how hard Teambuilding is

[molten oasis]

For a while people were pairing iron bundle and miraidon together which on paper looked really good and synergized well

But in reality it was really mid

[charred saddle]

rilla just kinda fucks it so

[solid frigate]

and rn the best future Paradox mon with Mirai is Hands

And really Hands only

[molten oasis]

And then Mirai won a regional with no quark drive mons

Bundle was synergy bait

Yea hands works well for multiple reason but also it’s hands

Hands is just goated

[solid frigate]

lives +2 Astral Barrage like a champ

There are some other cases like Iron Jugilus,Iron Leaves and Iron Crown

Who works as their own rather than Synergy

[astral kelp]

ahh right thats true

[solid frigate]

also its bad to tunnel vision on Synergy

[charred saddle]

2 2 2 team

dozogiri
paonite
chiyuflutter

[charred saddle]

stupidly strong and simple

[solid frigate]

And one of them is just stupid

[astral kelp]

this better or should i be lame and go incin instead of chi yu?

[solid frigate]

chi yu is fine with Lunala imo but its ok to go incin

[astral kelp]

incin is prolly better but i feel like i need more like straight up damage options

[charred saddle]

honestly if ur playing lunala and chiyu, kinda feel u need to play meteorbeam powerherb set

else its kinda hard to play around incin

[astral kelp]

way ahead of ya

[charred saddle]

so fucking greedy with power herb and calm mind.

[astral kelp]

i feel like with this team im allowed to be

but im still kinda vulnerable to double ups ig

even more so with chi yu

[charred saddle]

go ahead and try ig. ur gonna get walled by something that walls ghost move after the first Meteor beam

[solid frigate]

kinda thought about one time tofu did that with Terapagos

But I don’t like Lunala only has a Ghost move

[astral kelp]

ahhh good point actually

[charred saddle]

once u used Metoer, and then for some reason they have dark type on the back. goodluck

[solid frigate]

also Terapagos just walls you

[astral kelp]

i got walled by that in one game and only won because of comfey barely living

[charred saddle]

ghost and fairy tera covers most of the type coverage. flutter is so strong for this reason

[astral kelp]

yea thats who walled me lmao

[solid frigate]

yeah if i just use my Turtle team you kinda cant touch my turtle

[astral kelp]

i didnt know it was immune to ghost types untill it terrad

[charred saddle]

pagos is different. u can just have one move to play around and neutral most of the time once tera

[astral kelp]

like its still a normal type

[solid frigate]

yeah thats why i am fine with it

[astral kelp]

which makes sense ig, maybe i get a fighting type?

[solid frigate]

Urshifu.

[astral kelp]

instead of well spring?

[solid frigate]

y e s

[astral kelp]

hmm follow me is REALLY GOOD tho

istg urshifu finds its way into every team i make

[solid frigate]

just run Amooguss instead of Comfey honestly

[astral kelp]

im comited to the comfy o7

(i like them)

[solid frigate]

But then again

you have fake out options,2 of them.

[proven storm]

My teams fucks on Urshifu-R

[molten oasis]

It does

[proven storm]

Idk about other Urshifu though because I only saw it in 1/38 games

[solid frigate]

Bolt?

[molten oasis]

Urshifu is broken

[proven storm]

Nah

[astral kelp]

ogerpon is literally only there because fuck urshifu

[proven storm]

Zama, Flutter, Rillaboom, Incineroar, Amogus, Chien-Pao

Half of my teras are just to resist urshifu

Plus rocky helmet plus rage powder on amogus makes it half kill itself

[solid frigate]

I can smell Hearthflame food

[proven storm]

I think I've lost one game to an Urshifu

No, two actually

And both were because I was new and forgot it ignored protect

[astral kelp]

how do i find ev spreads?

[solid frigate]

man i wish Zama teams are like Keanu’s Team

[proven storm]

I just check smogon and other people's teams tbh

[solid frigate]

what is your Zama EVs

[proven storm]

EVs: 228 HP / 4 Atk / 44 Def / 188 SpD / 44 Spe
Careful Nature

Tera dragon

[solid frigate]

yeah this guy aint doing damage unless its iron Defense

[proven storm]

I still one shot or two shots things with body press

I got to master ball rank running it basically every time

[solid frigate]

and what are those 1-2 shots?

[proven storm]

Chien-Pao defence drop helps too

[solid frigate]

but hows is your Hearthflame situation tho

[proven storm]

Caly ice for one, I've one shot terapagos too

Hearthflame?

[solid frigate]

ok Terapagos i am not suprised

Caly Ice should not be a 2 Shot iirc

[proven storm]

I did have chien pao out

[solid frigate]

+1 44+ Def Sword of Ruin Zamazenta-Crowned Body Press vs. 212 HP / 4 Def Calyrex-Ice: 97-115 (48 - 56.9%) -- 90.6% chance to 2HKO

thats barely a 2HKO

Make sure to make Zama’s Def EVs at least 200 Impish or more

[proven storm]

Is that including sword of ruin?

[solid frigate]

yes

[proven storm]

Oh zamn

Maybe my EVs aren't that then because I did over 50% with the first one

I remember I didn't reset them, I just used berries to reduce them

Is there a way to check exact EVs?

[astral kelp]

it WORKED

idk why he didnt just moongeist my lunala

[proven storm]

I've also had games where Miraidon players thought they were safe from my Amogus spore until I Ice Spinner'd the terrain away

[solid frigate]

ok those Miraidon players really can’t see the room-

Do they Tailwind tho

[proven storm]

Depends on the team

[solid frigate]

depends?

[proven storm]

Is there a way to check IVs?

EVs*

[proven storm]

Some of them didn't bring a tailwind setter against me, probs thought they could outspeed me

[astral kelp]

its weird ive been seing mostly urshifu darks\

[solid frigate]

caly Shadow

[astral kelp]

:)

[solid frigate]

b r u h.

[astral kelp]

MISSED INPUT

i wouldve legit just won right there if i didnt missclick too LMAO

with a team like mine do they really think id say yes to that

???????????????

[real prairie]

morning peeps

[proven storm]

Good evening

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/waynes-world-gif-10719765462211056466

Terrific work on MB rank

[proven storm]

Thanks :3

[gentle crag]

hugh_mungus321 has given 1 Gen Rep to oneofakindof

[proven storm]

Thinking of signing up for the tournament in Melbourne in May

[real prairie]

Go for it

Worst case scenario you get a ton of experience

[proven storm]

I doubt I'd do well but if I placed first and got an invitation to worlds I'd legit die

[real prairie]

Try to do some bo3 ladder first though before you attend

[proven storm]

Good idea, but is there even a queue for that in game?

[real prairie]

Afraid not

You'll need to practice on showdown or ask friends to play

[proven storm]

My only friend who played died by driving into a cow at 110km/h on a country road lmao

[real prairie]

How very Australian

Sorry for your loss

[proven storm]

Yeah he was my best friend of 20 years and I lived with him for 2 years leading up to it, I miss him every day but it's just life

At a certain point you get used to losing people

[real prairie]

I feel ya

[proven storm]

Did you or do you play pokemon go?

[real prairie]

Well I'm sure plenty of people in here would be happy to give you practice games

[real prairie]

Did

[proven storm]

It's a silly little memento but he traded me a gliscor and it's a lucky perfect IV exactly 2500CP

He also gave me the copy of shield that I have

[torn parrot]

Guys

I can’t bring myself to watch eternals before brave new world

I hope brave new world is at least not boring

[real prairie]

oh boy

i have heard not good things

but i wish you luck

[real prairie]

get it moved over to Home so you never lose it

[proven storm]

Wait, why would I lose it?

[real prairie]

anything could happen with Pokemon Go in the future

nothing immediate

[proven storm]

Yeah but they'll announce if they're shutting it down

[real prairie]

Yeah ofc

i didn't mean you had to rush lol

[torn parrot]

Thank u

[gentle crag]

mayahoppins has given 1 Gen Rep to oneofakindof

[real prairie]

just future proofing it for generations to come

[proven storm]

Is gliscor in sv?

[real prairie]

it is

i think

[proven storm]

Could it see any use in a reg without any restricteds?

Or is it kinda ass?

[real prairie]

it had some useage in Reg H if i remember

its also an amazing Singles mon

toxic spikes, Toxic, Toxic orb poison heal

[proven storm]

Hyper cutter seems good for dodging intimidates

[torn parrot]

Damnit they’re talkings bout eternals stuff aright I have to go watch it

[proven storm]

Shame I don't like singles

[real prairie]

i miss the MCU days when they would do a little nod to old stuff but not make it a mandatory watch

[proven storm]

I just don't watch any mcu stuff past end game

Well that's a lie

[torn parrot]

I like keeping up

Some of the modern stuff is really really good

[proven storm]

I saw black widow, it was ass, I saw multiverse of madness, it had more plot holes than a dam made of Swiss cheese, I saw guardians 3 which was pretty good

[real prairie]

not great for casuals though that their big cinema movies are no longer inclusive

[torn parrot]

Like Loki

[real prairie]

Loki was terrific

but i wonder how much of that was carried by the actor

[proven storm]

Loki screws up the entire continuity of the universe because all of the fuckery with strange looking into 13 million futures and the time travel in end game should've triggered the TVA

Marvel turned into turn your brain off and don't think about it too much once they introduced the multiverse elements

[torn parrot]

Yeah I feel like this is entirely for old fans now
They may need a reboot…

||And from what I hear about secret wars, that might be it||

[real prairie]

they explained why that didn't happen, because it was meant to

something to with the way they time travelled

the Mobius Strip or whatever

[proven storm]

Was multiverse of madness supposed to happen? Did any of the universes chavez travel to need to get snipped? Are they even different timelines or different universes?

Marvel has different time lines AND different universes?

It's too much, I prefer the more grounded mcu movies like winter soldier

[real prairie]

yeah when you start playing with time travel it gets messy

i can't think of many films/series that get away with it seemlessly

same happened to umbrella academy

[proven storm]

I mean end game even contradicts itself with cap ending the movie having travelled back in time when they established that's not how it works just because of fanservice

[real prairie]

that was something to do with the morbius strip stuff, its an interesting read if you get round to it

[proven storm]

Banner literally says nothing they do in the past will impact the present and yet he gets back into the present as an old man having lived through the 40s to the 2020s

[torn parrot]

You know the doctor strange thing is a bit weird

Tho the way I like to see it is that the loki show is kind of like the origin story for the multiverse

[proven storm]

It's entertaining, it just breaks the setting's own established rules which is the number one no no of any intellectual property

Your laws of physics and everything don't have to behave how they do in the real world, but they should be internally consistent

It's the most jarring stuff that takes me out of any movie because unfortunately the thing I use to appreciate movies is my brain

But phases 1-3 were peak

And guardians 3 was really good

[torn parrot]

I like the mystery and drama of movies

[real prairie]

guardians as a whole just has its own mould that it follows and seems to do well

[proven storm]

I'm not saying you can't enjoy the most recent stuff, I just can't get past a lot of it

Plus I literally bust out laughing in the cinema when Black Widow broke her nose on the desk

[torn parrot]

No like your right it’s messy

The whole kang stuff is still like

Really weird to me

he’s just like okay so he’s never coming up again after all that hype ok

[real prairie]

only going to get worse with the actor drama IRL to lol

[proven storm]

To be fair that's because the actor was abusing his wife and got dropped by disney

[torn parrot]

I guess we’re doing doctor doom now

[torn parrot]

Kindaaa wish they found a new actor

[real prairie]

Spidey 4 in the works too

[proven storm]

Plus not gonna lie I felt like his portrayal of Kang in the last episode of Loki s1 was so campy and shit

I loved the reveal, I just hated the performance

[torn parrot]

Is this a sony one

[real prairie]

Spidey 4 will be peak cinema imo, Sony don't give disney as much licence to do stupid shit with their IP lol

[real prairie]

still a MCU production

[proven storm]

looks at Madame Web

looks at Morbius

[torn parrot]

Okay that’s good

[proven storm]

looks at Kraven

[real prairie]

Wasn't that Sony being Sony

lol

[torn parrot]

Sony is not making good stuff 😭

Venom is stupid fun bad at least

[proven storm]

Oh did you mean Disney don't give Sony as much license? You said Sony doesn't give Disney

[real prairie]

They balance each other, Sony make shit movies but don't go stupid with the plots (most of the time), Disney make good movies but can tail off plot wise (most of the time)

Sony reign in Disney doing stupid plot stuff

[proven storm]

I love that the internet psyopped Sony into releasing Morbius for a second theatre run

[real prairie]

Disney make a good movie

[proven storm]

Because of the memes making them think everyone loved it

IT'S MORBIN' TIME

[torn parrot]

That’s really sad lol

Poor Disney they were just getting bullied

Sony

I meant sony

[real prairie]

makes me think of this meme:

[proven storm]

I mean speaking of Marvel

I'm into Marvel Rivals AND Marvel Snap

[astral kelp]

yeah im gonna need another attacking move for lunala

[torn parrot]

I remember being so sad when I was younger I thought there wouldn’t be any spiderman movies after Disney and sony started fighting over their child

[real prairie]

you not running Meteor beam Lunala?

[real prairie]

then they birthed Tom Holland and its all good

[astral kelp]

i am

[proven storm]

Btw, can you drop out of masterball once you reach it?

[real prairie]

no

[astral kelp]

its really funny

[torn parrot]

Surely meteor beam kills

[proven storm]

Hell yeah, I have no reason not to keep playing then

[astral kelp]

hes just cycling protects

[torn parrot]

D:

Hope for a para

[astral kelp]

i have to hope for para

LESS GOOOOO

[real prairie]

hahah send us the link, lets watch

[torn parrot]

Hahaaaaa

[astral kelp]

how do i get the link?

[real prairie]

good question

@torn parrot ?

[astral kelp]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2302362152-8h4m9ux7srgrj4lp35a8njukwepbmyjpw

save replay

[real prairie]

ah its over

[torn parrot]

When your battling it’s really easy

You copy and paste the website link

[real prairie]

wanted to watch it live

[real prairie]

Good to know

[torn parrot]

Np 👍

[astral kelp]

would be cool to get feedback

[real prairie]

You won @astral kelp GGs

yeah ill watch it now

[astral kelp]

im pretty new so i prolly did dumb shitg a lot lol

[torn parrot]

AYOOO??? ARBOLIVA GOT A 3D MODEL

https://tenor.com/view/cat-dancing-cat-dance-gif-24209377

[cyan smelt]

I'm always surprised when I play against a lunala and they don't tera in front of chien pao

[proven storm]

I haven't seen Lunala once in 40 games

[torn parrot]

I wish showdown would post news on when they release 3D models

They always do it for the most random mons

That nobody uses

[cyan smelt]

I'm sure arboliva is a star in a different format

[torn parrot]

Maybe

[real prairie]

you played into Encore way too many times

[astral kelp]

how do i play around it?

[torn parrot]

Great tusk could have a 3D model right now and I would never know

[real prairie]

kill the encorer, switch out, or don't click moves you don't want encored like Fakeout or protect

[torn parrot]

Don’t use moves you wanna use more than once in front of an encorer or swap out if you do that before they can encore

[real prairie]

after you do fake out or protect you basically have to switch

[astral kelp]

kinda obvious now that i think about it haha

[torn parrot]

Yeah a lot of mons you just know they’re running it or should assume
Sometimes you get jumpscared but not too bad

[real prairie]

you also could have Tera water Ogrepon to negate damage from Pollen puff and threaten damage

[astral kelp]

ahhhh yes ofc

i kinda didnt expect him to actually do that lol

[real prairie]

would also give you a SpDef boost and make you pure water type for the sun

[proven storm]

Is wide guard like protect in that it fails if you use it twice in a row?

[real prairie]

no

wide guard can be spammed

[proven storm]

Damn it's even stronger than I thought

[astral kelp]

i feel like it would be bad if it couldnt

[torn parrot]

But if you use protect after wide guard it can fail

[real prairie]

but if you try use protect after wide guard its as if you used protect twice

[proven storm]

Wait, really?

Huh. The more you know

[torn parrot]

Tho you can use protect and then wide guard and it works fine

[proven storm]

Also I can't decide whether to have Moonblast or Dazzling Gleam on my Flutter

I have Moonblast currently

[real prairie]

Moonblast

spread gets a damage reduction and also gets stopped by opposition wide guard

[proven storm]

I'd just seen quite a few running Dazzling Gleam and wasn't sure if it was better or not

But I feel like half the time you'll be hitting one for super effective or neutral and the other for not very effective

[real prairie]

what is the spread damage reduction, is it 20%?

[torn parrot]

I think it’s 25%

[proven storm]

The one team that wiped me without a hope was a Torkoal that had trick room set up and then Eruption'd in the sun

I now have more respect for Torkoal

[real prairie]

old school strats, you need to hurt it early or change the weather

eruption is based on HP

[cyan smelt]

Or waste tr turns

[proven storm]

Yeah well I would've been fine if I had Zama out to wide guard but I switched into Zama thinking it could tank it

Nope.jpg

[torn parrot]

I myself hate trick room and want to do everything in my power to not let it go up

[real prairie]

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/storks-wolves-i-agree-agree-movie-gif-7424771278907523561

[proven storm]

I'm just a noob and don't know what half the pokemon in the format do

[cyan smelt]

I enjoy spamming fake out, protect and wide guard so they don't use their spread moves

[proven storm]

Remember I haven't played comp since gen v and even back then it was just casual

So I've just been learning as I've played... and I've still hit master ball

[real prairie]

we are ever so proud of you Hugh

[cyan smelt]

That damn horse is annoying because high horsepower still hits like a truck

[proven storm]

Is it normal for someone new to comp to hit top rank in 3 days?

I don't wanna get too much of an ego

[real prairie]

I mean, you hit top 2500 no?

[torn parrot]

If it’s a psychic type it probably has trick room

[real prairie]

thats an achomplishment

[proven storm]

Close, 2510

I haven't played since hitting it though

[real prairie]

you have done incredibly well, but yeah ground yourself too

don't get egotistical on us

[cyan smelt]

Just fyi you can hit master ball with pretty much any team

[real prairie]

or im sure there are a few players in here that would give you a few practice games that you might cry after 🤣

[proven storm]

Honestly it's not my own genius or anything, 99% of it is Wolfe Glick. I've seen multiple people say he's washed but dude is the most accomplished pokemon player for a reason even if his recent performance hasn't been great, dude's vids have so much knowledge to impart

[real prairie]

(not me i suck)