DAMN
#competitive_discussion
molten oasis
foggy lodge
I already got a 0 atk iv shiny Jumpluff
molten oasis
ok getting 0 is valid lol
foggy lodge
It can't be that hard
molten oasis
It can't be that hard
3 months later
solid frigate
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
dense latch
me
solid frigate
btw who wants a shiny Jumpluff
bro is just grinding in Area Z
foggy lodge
but can i like preorder it
yeah
molten oasis
btw who wants a shiny Jumpluff
I’m good
Cool shiny tho
I might go hunt shiny kyogre
It’ll take 5 years
But it be cool to run the pink fish with the blue dog if zacogre ends up being good
solid frigate
But it be cool to run the pink fish with the blue dog if zacogre ends up being g...
i mean Pokemon Go exists
molten oasis
Hell no lol
solid frigate
thats the easiest to get shiny Ogre lmao
molten oasis
How does shiny hunting in go even work
solid frigate
How does shiny hunting in go even work
1/20 from 5 Star Legendary Raids
solid frigate
It’s 1 in 20? Damn
yeah thats stupid easy
solid frigate
But you have to find the kyogre
its rotational,if its shiny its Guarantee catch rate
molten oasis
Oh
Here’s the other thing, you only get the option of pokeball great ball or ultra ball
I’d love to put one in a love ball
oh god that take forever
solid frigate
oh Apri ball
then nvm i guess
and it use Premium ball as well unless you have Master Ball
molten oasis
Eh, I mean it would look ok in a pokeball
solid frigate
+No Kyogre raids in Feb so yeah might as well do the hard way
next stump
it takes about 20 hours to find a shiny legendary from dynamax adventures if you have the charm
it’s not too bad
solid frigate
Painfull
molten oasis
Like ig if I could spend the week getting the shiny charm then start grinding
next stump
unironically quadruple the time
molten oasis
Could also start playing some kyogre
next stump
it’s 1/400 instead of 1/100
molten oasis
Ok I need the shiny charm or I will lose my mind
solid frigate
it’s 1/400 instead of 1/100
yeah i'm going back to Pogo shiny raids lmao
i joined people on go fest for Primal Groudon and Kyogre
https://youtu.be/s_0ISPCcZSs?si=W_prOg5iywURQqVo
Ahhhh what memories i have on that
molten oasis
Dawg it’s been 30 minutes where is my food
solid frigate
Dawg it’s been 30 minutes where is my food
what have you ordered-
solid frigate
It does not take 30 minutes to make chicken tenders
F
solid frigate
they can't deep fry a Blaziken lmao
molten oasis
I’m not a scary person
twin kindle
Ohhh so ur a very tender person 🥺
molten oasis
I’m matching cat pfps with people and I have a bed full of plushies
twin kindle
Guys I’m so funny I should get a stand up show
molten oasis
I am not a scary guy lol
twin kindle
I’m matching cat pfps with people and I have a bed full of plushies
LOL peak
molten oasis
Anyway back to calcing mystic kyogre
Probably wanna play offensive kyogre with Zac
Calm mind seems clunky on paper
solid frigate
i might just go with Hard TR Dialga CIR for the meantime
molten oasis
Dammit dude what’s there to calc, kyogre eats like most things naturally
solid frigate
Dammit dude what’s there to calc, kyogre eats like most things naturally
Rillaboom,Bolt
cyan smelt
Does it eat a body press
molten oasis
Yes yes and yes
twin kindle
i might just go with Hard TR Dialga CIR for the meantime
cir palkia sounds fun too
molten oasis
Eats glide and tclap and if it eats +1 play rough it eats +1 body press
Tclap from LORB
twin kindle
Calc chien Pao ice spinner
molten oasis
solid frigate
+1 252+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned Body Press vs. 196 HP / 76 Def Dialga-Origin: 192-228 (96 - 114%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
I love this so badly
I know its bad for me but its so funny
molten oasis
It’s a water type
twin kindle
that’s like most teams answer to Tera grass
molten oasis
Oh ic
252+ Atk Sword of Ruin Chien-Pao Ice Spinner vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Tera-Grass Kyogre: 206-246 (117.7 - 140.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
solid frigate
+1 252+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned Body Press vs. 196 HP / 76+ Def Dialga-Origin: 174-206 (87 - 103%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO
Wait should i just run Bold Origin Dialga lmao
molten oasis
Dawg there ain’t no way this cna eat that
solid frigate
<:FischPray:807333030439944212> cir palkia sounds fun too
i rather actually landing moves than missing my STAB moves
molten oasis
Well, unless I go really slow kyogre
twin kindle
i rather actually landing moves than missing my STAB moves
Palkia actually had good type synerg thoughhh
solid frigate
Well, unless I go really slow kyogre
Covert Cloak Kyogre is cooking for me tho
molten oasis
Yea it does
I’m talking about with zacian
Do I really wanna run calm mind cloak zacian which is a slower set with zacian who’s a faster guy
solid frigate
Palkia actually had good type synerg thoughhh
i do agree on it but like
I don't have the shiny yet i think but eh i can theory craft
solid frigate
Do I really wanna run calm mind cloak zacian which is a slower set with zacian w...
at least you don't lose to TR that badly
solid frigate
yeah cuz i don't think you would like CIR Hard TR in Double restricteds for that
twin kindle
Do I really wanna run calm mind cloak zacian which is a slower set with zacian w...
Scarf kyogre can be like a better regidrago in ur team
But yeah I agree cm kyogre is kinda weird in such a offensive team
molten oasis
solid frigate
lmfao i knew it
molten oasis
Oh actually tho here’s the thing
Zacian only really has to kill bolt and rilla for kyogre
And ig hands
And miraidon
twin kindle
It does have good synergy
molten oasis
I also use Zac as a clean up guy
When Zac enters the field it’s usually positioned to take kills
twin kindle
Could always go scary face torn 
throw the other tw off guard
molten oasis
Eh so actually CM ogre with Zac and rilla doesn’t sound too bad
solid frigate
Palkia @ Leftovers
Ability: Telepathy
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 196 HP / 124 Def / 156 SpA / 28 SpD / 4 Spe
Modest Nature
- Spacial Rend
- Hydro Pump
- Tera Blast
- Protect
I'm not confident on running Trick Room with Palkia at least-
twin kindle
Why Tera blast over tr 0-0
solid frigate
Why Tera blast over tr 0-0
100 Speed.
And Origin form is 120.
twin kindle
And why lefties
molten oasis
Technically speaking kyogre would be the main focus and zacian would be the clean up crew+anti bolt and rilla guy
Yea that could be fine honestly
solid frigate
And why lefties
idek at this point i have no Experience on Palkia
twin kindle
100 Speed.
And Origin form is 120.
Min speed time baby
molten oasis
Palkia @ Leftovers
Ability: Telepathy
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fairy
EVs: 19...
Could test it
I’m down to run some sets if you want
solid frigate
i'll just copy and Paste the sets from Dialga CIR team
molten oasis
I have to build the team first lol
solid frigate
I have to build the team first lol
do it in Gamer Society at least cuz why not
molten oasis
Ok
chrome knot
@twin kindle stimky
left bobcat
Blicky
mint void
What are ur times?
foggy lodge
Almost all the day lol
solid frigate
I need the Landorus raid lol
Lando moment
foggy lodge
I don't have anything to do this week
mint void
@foggy lodge u got time in like 5 hours?
left bobcat
Level number 9
mint void
@foggy lodge ok lets do that
dense latch
ni los rhydon en na se atrevieron a tanto
dense latch
rest sleep talk in big 2025 vgc
i won’t judge tho i’m getting fucked if i go to that regional
mint void
https://pokepast.es/66ba6bc46eeac801
U saw the zama?
cyan smelt
Is forretress better than cobalion
charred saddle
if u wanna do scarf spore shenaningans
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
astral kelp
is that something actual people do
charred saddle
yes, and its only probably niche
cyan smelt
With caly I everywhere toedscruel is not good
charred saddle
since it doesnt really offer much
molten oasis
or pao
cyan smelt
Even incin which usually wears safety goggles
It just means spore is normal priority
And it's slower than chien pao
charred saddle
Last in prio
means it always goes last. disregarding of speed
cyan smelt
With weezing
charred saddle
thats why u need weezing to turn off the ability
and be speedy spore
astral kelp
Ye so what's the point of choice scarf on him?
Oh wheezing
I do wanna do that at some pointn
cyan smelt
You're about one or two regs late for that
knotty mirage
Monkidori
cyan smelt
Alolan muk
charred saddle
honestly all ur ideas are something in the past reg
astral kelp
Noh like it changes the allies ability too
knotty mirage
Yeah that's grfaiai
astral kelp
honestly all ur ideas are something in the past reg
Yeah I guess
I just watched a Ton of yt videos from then
charred saddle
oo
astral kelp
Unburden?
knotty mirage
Yeah it's not good idea to use older reg build
charred saddle
Yeah I guess
I just watched a Ton of yt videos from then
btw just a friendly reminder since i watched the auction
always ask for the proof of legitimacy for shiny legendaries. unless its go stamped
astral kelp
Speed is doubled on held item loss; boos is lost if it switches, get new item/ability
astral kelp
btw just a friendly reminder since i watched the auction
always ask for the pro...
How do I check for that?
knotty mirage
Unless it something like dondozo tatsugiri stall poison still work just slap caly shadow on that team
astral kelp
Unless it something like dondozo tatsugiri stall poison still work just slap cal...
Rn I'm cooking falinks flamigo and I thought it would be fun to add some spore
charred saddle
How do I check for that?
gonna be honest. aside from go stamped
its legit at best, u cant never differentiate clones and the original mons
thats why i always ask for go stamped
legit mons =/= legal
ask around in #hackcheck_discussion
also, even if its like legit at best
always try to get proof of it as much as possible
proof of redemption if its events
trainer card with handwritten notes with today date if its self caught
this is like the best you can do.
as someone once great (i just forgot who said it), if u want the safest option, do it yourself
- go stamped and home stamps ig
astral kelp
also, even if its like legit at best
always try to get proof of it as much as po...
Oh that's actually kinda crazy lol
Ic why go stamps are valuable
mint void
How do I check for that?
U cant 100%. But having them send u the OT, TID and met message can be good indicators
Same for IVs(though most legendary have a set if minimum IV) 6 iv shinies are pretty much impossible except they are guaranteed or have like 4 IVs guranteed
mint void
especially still in go, since u can custom OT
You can customise abt everything ngl. On some mons you just cant tell if you dont have a way to check like they do at tourneys sometimes
Often the met message isnt correct. Cant tell by heart what I should say.
mint void
Just saying u cant really know
charred saddle
ill just show u an example
mint void
Only way could be the met message
charred saddle
no. bred it and hatched it myself.
wispy spade
The met message can be customized with hacking software
mint void
@charred saddle so u played on ur aystem clock?
charred saddle
if u date skip its gonna follow switch system
mint void
Fair then I guess but I feel its the only way you could tell since its probably the hardest to change as many people use bots.
Who dont allow an exact change.
Like you just kinda have to use common sense or accept risks.
Unreasonably perfect mons are unlikely to be legit
charred saddle
look. im only pointing that u cant differentiate clones and not
hacked mons are an entire different case
read the case on this at #hackcheck_discussion
hacked mons usually have telltale red flags and if its badly hacked it can trigger 10015 error in home
mint void
Im not arguing against.
Juat saying if u wanna have a shot at telling you have to look at every info page.
astral kelp
Why scarf?
I add doodle
Also why does doodle cancel when you switch out :(
My dissapointmmetn is immeasurable and my day is ruined
man
knotty mirage
I'm not sure if this gonna work especially when doodle will fail agains't as one and phrotosynthis
astral kelp
It works
Like really well it's pretty cool
But if you switch toad out it resets the ability
For some fucking reason
astral kelp
<@551365187438116875> im more worried abt doubles scarf
Oh yea I forgot
mint void
@astral kelp wtf does falinks do btw?
astral kelp
And lorb incin
Was trying it out
Did not work lmao
mint void
I genuinely dont know
astral kelp
<@421131865983025162> wtf does falinks do btw?
No retreat flamigo
The entire point of the team to start off with
mint void
Mirror herb?
astral kelp
It's kinda crazy actually
mint void
Why that...and what does no retreat do?
astral kelp
Why that...and what does no retreat do?
It adds +1 to every stat
But yeah because doodle resets on swith out I can't use toad grafai strat
cyan smelt
falinks is made of paper
mint void
FYI we are VGC based mostly so idk what Tier this is in SD
astral kelp
falinks is made of paper
Very true
He's got good defence tho
And abysmal special def
I got him full bulk for this strat so flamingo can carry
Problem is that flamingo gets like literally 0 support so it just kinda dies 💀
Since no retreat stops me from switching out
So I'm kinda forced to run roost
mint void
@astral kelp explosion?
astral kelp
Maybe I shouldn't have falinks be tánky so he dies
mint void
Idk if it can explode
mint void
Nah he cant even kill himself
astral kelp
LOL
I can just go like
Make him really hard damaging so they want to kill him and detect flamingo
mint void
@astral kelp bro ngl just try out the VGC format
astral kelp
I did and instantly got swept turn 1 by miraidon ;~;
mint void
Make him really hard damaging so they want to kill him and detect flamingo
Opponent wont know tho
astral kelp
It was miserable lmao
mint void
I did and instantly got swept turn 1 by miraidon ;~;
What team?
mint void
Miraidon is lead a lot in their teams.
astral kelp
How do I counter it even?
Ig I could go like raichu lmao
They would never see it coming
cyan smelt
use a rental
mint void
How do I counter it even?
Whats ur team?
astral kelp
I have a few
None very good tho I'm just playing around for fun not really getting into full on competitive yet
I got like an archaleadon rain team with moushold flamingo
A palafin plus blood moon ursaluna trick room cyclazar
astral kelp
I got like an archaleadon rain team with moushold flamingo
Also has palafin
I like him :)
mint void
@astral kelp do u have a restricted?
astral kelp
this was the team i made for vgc
instead of ou
Tbh I'm kinda just not too familiar with the legendaries
wispy spade
Expanding force on a physical attacker and no fake out smeargle?
Also no way to stack rage fist
astral kelp
Also no way to stack rage fist
I just kinda assumed I didn't need mousehold because I was planing on just healing with snistchea
astral kelp
Expanding force on a physical attacker and no fake out smeargle?
Oh idk why tf I put expanding force in there
cyan smelt
4 types weak to caly-s is yikes
astral kelp
I think one of the main things I need to get settled in is just naturally knowing the type weaknesses
mint void
@astral kelp u are pretty off on aome items
astral kelp
Pls ignore eject button
mint void
White herb just doesnt do anything om ursaB
wispy spade
What does white herb even do?
mint void
Choice Band is Ok but Clear Amulet is just better since incins intim just bringa u back zo no boost with band AND u cant switch moves
@wispy spade nothing
Cleanse a parting shot i guess
wispy spade
astral kelp
Choice Band is Ok but Clear Amulet is just better since incins intim just bringa...
I see ight
I just kinda assumed you only really use glacial lance
astral kelp
True
I imagine wide guard is really valuable rn
With the calyrexes gholdengo and ursaluna blood
real prairie
Sorry was sleepin'
mint void
With the calyrexes gholdengo and ursaluna blood
Gholdengo and Ursaluna not so much. But most restricted that are viable have good spread moves
astral kelp
Really I thought gholdengo was like perma op
cyan smelt
i'm losing a lot today
astral kelp
Dengo gets held back by speed
Dang that overrides his broken ass ability, signature move and crazy typing
molten oasis
Yep
real prairie
or water
molten oasis
It also has a good mu into
Let’s see, uhm, uhhhh, zama and sorta CIR
Which are solved by better mons
real prairie
it has a good defensive MU into Zama but struggles to do anything back
molten oasis
Hearth I actually think gives it a really rough time
And incin being on so many teams is also terrible for it
lofty tartan
SHADOW BALL reeeeeeee
cyan smelt
Kyogre gives it a rough time too
molten oasis
Just not a good format for it unfortunately
real prairie
Shadow ball
meant into Zama
cyan smelt
Yeah it can shadow ball but not really mir
real prairie
Yeah it can shadow ball but not really mir
at which point Pao has sucker punched it to death 🤣
balmy glen
I may not be bringing Zama to euic
real prairie
I may not be bringing Zama to euic
Really really sad im not going EUIC now, even more people i could have met
molten oasis
I may not be bringing Zama to euic
Why?
cyan smelt
Idk if I should bring this team to Brisbane regionals or if I should go at all, had a few losses today
balmy glen
Why?
tbh like
im known as the zama guy atp since all my best finishes are with it but ive been farming ladder with csr and miraidon and ive never felt something so broken in my life
its like playing the game on easy mode
balmy glen
never reached 1600s in bo3 on 10 accounts within a week since reg d other than me using csr and miraidon variations lmao
well thats also cuz i didnt grind with zama to not show my techs but ye
molten oasis
Fair enough. Not sure if zama’s in a great spot atm either
real prairie
red card gaming 🤣 https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2298574220
cyan smelt
Ez win
real prairie
I may be trying to do a thing... 👀
cyan smelt
It's good that red card incin seems to be working for you
balmy glen
Fair enough. Not sure if zama’s in a great spot atm either
its in a solid spot
I think im locked for a day 2 if i brought zama to euic
But like
I dont think Zama can win an internat rn
molten oasis
Ic
balmy glen
whats also perfect is im zamas strongest soldier and the current zama teams 50/50 Miraidon so ik the most annoying lines lul
real prairie
I dont think Zama can win an internat rn
famous last words? lol
balmy glen
tbh if someone wins internat with it fairplay
Im pretty sure the people ive worked with before are the only ones who could possibly do it tho
cyan smelt
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2298582293
Nice, I wonder if red card incin can work in bo3
balmy glen
nah red card should just remain as a funny gc tech
tried it in bo3 and its only ever worked back in like reg b lol
real prairie
does red card fail against donzogiri?
chrome knot
I dont think Zama can win an internat rn
so whats the euic call
left bobcat
Morning chat
real prairie
Yo Flacko
that Chessnaugt team we were talking about before: https://pokepast.es/c1f1bdcdebae6448
torn parrot
Abraham Lincoln kinda looks like a monkey
real prairie
Abraham Lincoln kinda looks like a monkey
Hi Maya
torn parrot
Heya
real prairie
Maya comment about Abe
torn parrot
Does sword of ruin boost psyshock
Yeah
foggy lodge
Oh
Now there's a CSR team with Chien-Pao and it uses psyshock
I guess its for that
foggy lodge
Its not like a nasa innovation team because it just uses CSR Chien-Pao Inci Rilla Shifu Guss
But its interesting
torn parrot
Damnit I just watched the new brave new world trailer and realized I have to sit through the eternals
Blah
That movie is so boring I have been able to finish it
I also couldn’t finish moon knight
real prairie
i am so far behind in the MCU
all the series put me off and the movies have been awful of late
last film i watched was Multiverse of madness
torn parrot
all the series put me off and the movies have been awful of late
I kinda liked the what if series but
Season 3 the stories were just so incredibly uninteresting
I found myself looking forward to the episode where Howard the duck was in a relationship
And then I got bored during that ep too and just gave up
real prairie
I kinda liked the what if series but
So the only non cannon series to the MCU 
foggy lodge
If anyone knows spanish i recommend this video because it features a really cool team
left bobcat
GANARRRR 😫
twin kindle
Smeargle looks so fun with decorate
real prairie
Smeargle looks so fun with decorate
Decorate CIR is fucking evil
Oooo new competitive scene
left bobcat
Man a lot of them aren’t even gonna make it
humble cedar
vgc player here, there is a smogon DOU tourney happening soon, i say we VGC nerds go wreak havoc on doubles OU
already cooking up some teams
plus u can bring multiple teams and switch between matches
left bobcat
Hmmmm
twin kindle
Regulation I sounds so weird to say
left bobcat
Regulation I sounds so weird to say
I regulation
left bobcat
Regulation I sounds so weird to say
I sounds so weird to say regulation 
real prairie
plus u can bring multiple teams and switch between matches
This sounds like chaos
humble cedar
This sounds like chaos
it is
but i played 1 game on ladder with a random ahh reg f team plus archaludon and molly whopped some poor kid
opal trout
vgc player here, there is a smogon DOU tourney happening soon, i say we VGC nerd...
How do I join?
humble cedar
How do I join?
on smogon
humble cedar
Where on smogon
their discord? i think
wispy spade
Do we know if there will be a restriction on restricteds in reg i?
Or is it regis only?
real prairie
Not announced but
think they will do 1 more before double
opal trout
It's double restricted everybody knows it lol
What if it’s as many restricted as you want
foggy lodge
think they will do 1 more before double
nah
because worlds is in august
last year was reg F until april and reg G from may to august
real prairie
is there not 2 reg changes before worlds? they did that before and cooked worlds 🤣
foggy lodge
this year is the same unless you make the regulation last less
foggy lodge
is there not 2 reg changes before worlds? they did that before and cooked worlds...
with all the chaos that VGC was when they did that i want to think they can't do it again lol
real prairie
has there been any annoucement on Worlds being moved yet?
its going to be chaos if it stays in LA
all the hotels are already cooked because of people using it for housing
next stump
I don’t think they’ll move it unfortunately
solid frigate
GIRATINA MENTIONED?
little plank
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2298845087-vbk08k9mg0ux6rjv77t3njh0qpgvxtqpw dozo is just to good lol
rustic mountain
I don’t think they’ll move it unfortunately
they 100% will not move it
little plank
back to 1600 going to take a break lol https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen9vgc2025regg-2298850305-y1lmi8ho7fpo6aov3c6ea3hq0y35iw6pw
feel like doing the tatsu swap saved that game completely lol
twin kindle
Dozogiri…cutely judges
solid frigate
god no-
little plank
I got smoked by a choice specs terapagos smeargle earlier lol
Terapagos with specs and a decorate is a force to be reckoned with lol
little plank
thats why its so good on smeargle you never know what its going to throw out there lol
foggy lodge
Terapagos with specs and a decorate is a force to be reckoned with lol
which team
little plank
its own folow me, a spore, or a decorate
all I remember was hearthstone ogregon smeargle and terapagos
I finally killed the smeargle just for hearthflame to come in and use follow me lol
little plank
So surging strikes without water tera and choice scarf still 1hkos caly shadow?
balmy glen
So surging strikes without water tera and choice scarf still 1hkos caly shadow?
No
do u have no bulk/was Chien Pao on the field
balmy glen
All good lmao
torn parrot
Is this the regional?
left bobcat
Do you want pain?
balmy glen
Is this the regional?
No japan doesnt have regional but its a top level Japanese teru challenge finals
bold geode
Why is there a Giratina
twin kindle
It’s Japan
left bobcat
It’s sushi
torn parrot
No japan doesnt have regional but its a top level Japanese teru challenge finals
Damnnnn giratina did all that
real prairie
i need to see that move set
twin kindle
It looks like a stall team help
real prairie
only found this one with the same mons but different pon https://pokepast.es/18300e1633759379
tiny karmaBOT
Sableye version 4.28.1
molten oasis
Why do I keep seeing giratina in these servers lol
twin kindle
Why do I keep seeing giratina in these servers lol
Big bad ghost
real prairie
Seriously though I woulda guessed will o wisp hex
id have assumed the same
yawn dozo + Hex giritina
although i feel poison gas weezing might be better for that
wispy spade
real prairie
3rd time today ive now faced a fake out Indeedee w/out Psychic surge
solid frigate
this is just horrible for what i am gonna do with Dialga double restricteds
molten oasis
cooking
left bobcat
Oh it’s me
molten oasis
-8ball was that guy cookin heat
gentle cragBOT
was that guy cookin heat
:8ball: Yes, definitely
molten oasis
Well it’s apparently gas
chrome knot
-8ball vanc cir?
gentle cragBOT
vanc cir?
:8ball: Reply hazy try again
chrome knot
-8ball vanc cir?
gentle cragBOT
vanc cir?
:8ball: Most likely
chrome knot
-8ball vanc csr?
gentle cragBOT
vanc csr?
:8ball: Concentrate and ask again
chrome knot
-8ball vanc csr?
gentle cragBOT
vanc csr?
:8ball: Reply hazy try again
gentle cragBOT
DO I BRING CSR OR NOT
:8ball: As I see it, yes
molten oasis
Lmao
left bobcat
THE DREAM IS FALLING
real prairie
THE DREAM IS FALLING
Love a dodgy translation
little plank
Is that just a giratina version of dawais team lol?
real prairie
No idea, it's the one that game top 8 in Japan
torn parrot
Is that shadow sneak
torn parrot
Oh they picked tera fire to wall calyrex Ice
That’s funni
What a way around it I hadn’t considered
torn parrot
So we were wrong about hex
Makes sense
solid frigate
ew tingdozo
torn parrot
You can threaten calyrex shadow with sneak
I wonder if it’s a mixed attacker
Or physical
solid frigate
if you have sneak does it kill CSR with no Attack invest?
solid frigate
0 Atk Giratina-Origin Shadow Sneak vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Shadow: 132-156 (75 - 88.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
So close
at least a Potential threat on Life Orb sets
torn parrot
How much atatck invest does it need
solid frigate
252 SpA Calyrex-Shadow Astral Barrage vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Giratina-Origin: 186-218 (82.6 - 96.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
PFFT
solid frigate
How much atatck invest does it need
156 Atk Giratina-Origin Shadow Sneak vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Calyrex-Shadow: 148-180 (84 - 102.2%) -- 6.3% chance to OHKO
not gonna back on it
solid frigate
I mean at least it’s good damage
i mean i did run Giratina before lmao
solid frigate
252 SpA Calyrex-Shadow Astral Barrage vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Giratina-Origin: 186-218 ...
if no invest does not kill giratina then its fine i hope
solid frigate
I like that im into that im really into that
build a team around Giratina i'm down with it cuz its my fav Legendary
torn parrot
It’s difficult to outniche an extreme niche team
But it would be fun
solid frigate
It’s difficult to outniche an extreme niche team
But it would be fun
i mean its you
You literally make shit work lmao
torn parrot
Aww thank you
I really like that the giratina isn’t stall
There’s nothing more painful than climbing ladder with slow teams
solid frigate
Giratina should not be stall at all
dense latch
THE DREAM IS FALLING
solid frigate
like i hate the concept that Giratina is stall
dense latch
Ludicolo back to 1600 💪🏼
yoo that’s huge!! congrats
next stump
@real prairie nice 🙂 rs
random side question but did you ever book any other regionals for this year?
real prairie
random side question but did you ever book any other regionals for this year?
Not yet, waiting for entry to go live first
Doesn't make sense to book flights if I can't get in
next stump
which one(s) are you looking at?
real prairie
Holland, Italy and maybe Spain
solid frigate
damn i wish i can go that far-
real prairie
damn i wish i can go that far-
Thank Ryanair, works out pretty cheap
gentle cragBOT
Thank Ryanair, works out pretty cheap
oneofakindof has given 1 Gen Rep to morrispxg456
solid frigate
Thank Ryanair, works out pretty cheap
i don't have money for this lmao
next stump
adult jobs OP
solid frigate
adult jobs OP
so true
at least i took my VGC Career a lot earlier than some people idk
real prairie
adult jobs OP
next stump
LOL perfect timing considering we had a lesson on credit cards today in my class
solid frigate
LOL perfect timing considering we had a lesson on credit cards today in my class
Credit card moment
real prairie
LOL perfect timing considering we had a lesson on credit cards today in my class
Schools actually teaching about real life situations, g fucking g
solid frigate
so tru
real prairie
I haven't used a bit of my A Level algebra in 15 years, but fuck me I could have done with some credit card lessons
solid frigate
lol
next stump
I told my students that if they ever chose a day to listen and learn something, that should be the day
solid frigate
fair enough
real prairie
I told my students that if they ever chose a day to listen and learn something, ...
Credit to your profession sir
little plank
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2299021353-7m28uhlqbvj1vrtmi0bbg1apwbq7rlppw how is my opponents team suppose to work? he was 1724 so I am assuming it works just not really sure how lol
real prairie
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2299021353-7m28uhlqbvj1vrtmi0...
No idea but clearly doing something right
Pop them a message and ask?
I've done it a few times when I'm curious about teams
torn parrot
No idea but clearly doing something right
That’s so awesome nice job!
real prairie
That’s so awesome nice job!
That's not me lol
real prairie
That's the person @little plank just faced with the random squad
real prairie
Your still awesome
You are too sweet ♥️🙈
solid frigate
little plank
No idea but clearly doing something right
How did you link just in individual person lol
real prairie
How did you link just in individual person lol
Ladder > user lookup
little plank
Ah I found it
My percent isnt great lol tried so many different teams until I got the one I am running now
Should probably reset and go again Sinclaires gen9vgc2025regg 1667 62.5% 1596 ± 25 367 319
real prairie
Right I've dropped down to 1400s playing on my phone whilst doing other shit.
Got to stop trying to play on my phone
real prairie
My percent isnt great lol tried so many different teams until I got the one I am...
Yeah I've done all my testing on this one account
But I really CBA to deal with low ladder on a new alt
little plank
I mean I am at 1667 currently so regardless of my win rate I am not doing to bad I dont think lol
cyan smelt
I took a few losses but I'm currently 67.4% gxe with a 1400 elo, not too bad
Maybe I'll try and climb more today
real prairie
1400 with 61% gxe but consider the sheer amount of crap I've tested on this account, I'll take it
cyan smelt
That's pretty good
left bobcat
You are too sweet ♥️🙈
I’m bitter
real prairie
I’m bitter
Bitter is nice in the right doses 😄
left bobcat
I’m too bitter 💙
foggy lodge
Bitter than hell itself...
little plank
How much more obvious could this guy make his opening moves lol https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2299081582-d7px5jpscdwbhx5cki34j9b0qhnm0qwpw
twin kindle
How are these guys so high help
dull wolf
does anyone have a gen 9 ou stall team?
twin kindle
does anyone have a gen 9 ou stall team?
I can’t tell if ur profile is satire but it is peak
dull wolf
I can’t tell if ur profile is satire but it is peak <:FischPray:8073330304399442...
not satire
twin kindle
Also most people play vgc here I’m so bad at singles sobs
twin kindle
not satire
Embrace yourself, woo woo!
dull wolf
<:HertaLaugh:1186998398004494376> Embrace yourself, woo woo!
actually wanna battle i got some teams i wanna test
twin kindle
actually wanna battle i got some teams i wanna test
For ou orrr?
dull wolf
For ou orrr?
vgc
left bobcat
B.E.T
chrome knot
How are these guys so high help
spam games all day eventually you’ll hit a streak lmao
solid frigate
does anyone have a gen 9 ou stall team?
@summer shore yo my guy
mighty stump
spam games all day eventually you’ll hit a streak lmao
it’s a numbers game as long as u maintain above 50% WR right
HAHAHA
bold geode
it’s a numbers game as long as u maintain above 50% WR right
Hello Tofu
shadow wind
Man I really need to hit this scald
summer shore
does anyone have a gen 9 ou stall team?
summer shore
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/peaked-1-2056-elo-%E2%80%93-ting-lu-stall....
2 sample stall teams off the forums
summer shore
<@177012687111323649> guess what
Whats up tofu
mighty stump
i broke up w my girlfriend and found what I can confidently call a soulmate
bold geode
2 sample stall teams off the forums
Hello Shiro
summer shore
i broke up w my girlfriend and found what I can confidently call a soulmate
Oh is this a congrats moment
mighty stump
maybe
summer shore
Hello Shiro
Hi hi
mighty stump
check DMs
summer shore
Ye ye
solid frigate
Man I really need to hit this scald
i was gonna ask how until i saw Milotic's Tail
shadow wind
It's called locking in
bold geode
https://x.com/shitpost_2049/status/1889076880655192307?t=HPiSR5fbyeYBAiNfPs8KPw&s=19
@mighty stump let's play Rock Paper Scissors
X
mighty stump
It took about a month but I am no longer single again
mighty stump
https://x.com/shitpost_2049/status/1889076880655192307?t=HPiSR5fbyeYBAiNfPs8KPw&...
hug a tree at 120 mph
bold geode
Not even the tree wants to show me affection
Can anyone actually like
Dissect that fucking chart
shadow wind
hug a tree at 120 mph
What is even a mile
bold geode
1.6 km
mighty stump
idk im using american terms cuz thats Monke
summer shore
Oh that was monke
bold geode
Yessir freedom units baybee
Bald eagles per football fields
bold geode
Oh that was monke
I am the Nike.gov brother
shadow wind
Yessir freedom units baybee
Bald eagles per football fields
Now you're speaking my language(I have been to the states once ever)
bold geode
Honestly that's how ya know Shiro been away a while
He looks at a dumbass name like Nike.gov and doesn't assume it's Monke
molten oasis
hug a tree at 120 mph is crazy
bold geode
Y'all don't question the stupidity and I don't blame y'all
bold geode
In what world would I see nike.gov and not think its some random
Idk I'm just a dumbass Shiro
cyan smelt
Yes
bold geode
Home Depot Family Bucket
shadow wind
I'm starting to realize why people don't use Kyurem black
bold geode
https://x.com/shitpost_2049/status/1889076880655192307?t=HPiSR5fbyeYBAiNfPs8KPw&...
@molten oasis wanna play Rock Paper Scissors
cyan smelt
Because you need to run loaded dice?
shadow wind
Yup
bold geode
I'm starting to realize why people don't use Kyurem black
The fact that even required a thought process is concerning
shadow wind
And he got the most awkward speed tier of all time
shadow wind
The fact that even required a thought process is concerning
I mean 170 atk
That's a pretty high number
And he's lowkey just a big baxcalibur
cyan smelt
Get intimidate cycled and wisped
cyan smelt
Loaded dice koraidon is simply better
bold geode
And he's lowkey just a big baxcalibur
But Miraidon
shadow wind
But that's not the point !!!
cyan smelt
I hate how optimised the gen 9 legends are
shadow wind
I hate how optimized everything is
molten oasis
<@465881273454559252> wanna play Rock Paper Scissors
no
shadow wind
I wanna be able to use Solgaleo and have a fighting chance
I think he's next on my list
After Kyurem Black that is...
cyan smelt
Ogerpon is a tactical nuke and miraidon has an insane movepool
cyan smelt
Nope gholdengo is not good in this meta
shadow wind
They abused the fact that there is 2 steel types that are used right now and both are restricteds
shadow wind
Nope gholdengo is not good in this meta
There's a severe lack of steel types
shadow wind
Give that man some redirection and he's a menace in TR
Too many things resist steel and ghost?
cyan smelt
Chi yu spread ends it
shadow wind
Chi yu spread ends 90% of the meta
bold geode
Gholdengo is tough to position but it can still be good
foggy lodge
Works on the conventional balance teams
shadow wind
That's like saying "CIR is bad because so many things resist it"
bold geode
Chi yu spread ends it
Also this is damn near saying that the sun rises in day time
shadow wind
Oh dang, Rillaboom must suck too then
foggy lodge
Chi yu spread ends it
Is anything weak to fire/dark able to live Chi-Yu lol
bold geode
But like
Gholdengo just won a regional
cyan smelt
Hands can deal with both its moves fairly easily
molten oasis
damn bro rilla is awful
foggy lodge
CIR survives it tho
shadow wind
Somehow 😭
molten oasis
CIR is also stupid
foggy lodge
100/130 bulk
bold geode
Guys Pao is awful
dense latch
i love my busted ice horse
foggy lodge
Dude i like CIR so much rn
bold geode
Anyways on serious note
Gholdengo just won a regional on a non balance team at that so
shadow wind
Oh hey it did
foggy lodge
With Dragonite
shadow wind
bold geode
I think it's still good
Gholdengo will always be good solely cuz it's Gholdengo
It's just not at the best spot compared to other points in metas since you have Shadow Rider, a lot of comps do run Chi Yu, Miraidon does a ton of damage, Dark Urshifu is a bitch, like it's gonna have a hard time but it's not bad by any means
shadow wind
Soak tatsu on a Miraidon team is yucky
dense latch
i just realized that’s a soak tatsu
molten oasis
I think it's still good
Gholdengo will always be good solely cuz it's Gholdengo ...
incin
foggy lodge
Why are its wings so fucking big man
molten oasis
shifu aint good for it either
foggy lodge
They are not that big😭
shadow wind
Fly good
bold geode
Gholdengo automatically has a get out of jail free card always cuz of what it has
shadow wind
He makes his own rules
shadow wind
Yeah but look at its model
That one flies the best
bold geode
Like it might not be good in certain meta situations, but it'll never be downright bad
dense latch
i mean i feel like gholdengo actually works better in these dozo teams
foggy lodge
It passed the final test with this regulation
shadow wind
I'm using it right now with Kyurem Black and it's been overperforming lowkey
dense latch
we saw it in reg h
bold geode
I'm using it right now with Kyurem Black and it's been overperforming lowkey
Well see thing is when you run an ass restricted your other pieces low-key do that not cuz they're good with that team but cuz they have to
dense latch
the ability to just blast something with specs make it rain or chip down for dozo is really nice
shadow wind
Well see thing is when you run an ass restricted your other pieces low-key do th...
I know 😔
But also
I ain't see no restricted doin this
cyan smelt
At least it's better than reshiram
foggy lodge
I like Dengo CIR
shadow wind
I'll have to get to Reshiram eventually...
cyan smelt
The biggest wtf for me was when I was playing someone and they had will o wisp on their reshiram
shadow wind
The biggest wtf for me was when I was playing someone and they had will o wisp o...
Twave Groudon
molten oasis
I played dengo CIR early reg g 2024
bold geode
Like if you run a bad restricted and the team is bad then I believe one of two things will actually happen
- The team will just be bad, you'll lose
- The team will actually feel good at first or for a bit cuz another Pokemon will sorta "step up" and be a second "restricted" for you
But not in like a way where like for example you're using Caly Ice Chi Yu and you're up against Zamazenta
The Pokemon will come to more games than your restricted and low-key if this ever happens even slightly then automatically you fucked up
Your restricted should be able to come to at the very bare minimum 95% of your games imo
shadow wind
I've been running some bad restricteds and this is 100% true
cyan smelt
Run dawn wings
shadow wind
Nah I ran Lunala like 2 restricteds ago, would be too soon
bold geode
If you feel like your restricted can not come to that many games, then that's a bit of a problem
shadow wind
Like I'm not doing anything crazy with them, just getting to 1500 on a new account
I wanna do that with every restricted(Besides the bad bad ones)
bold geode
Now once again
If you are just casual and you wanna do that, go ahead
But as far as like "oh hey I'm competitive, I wanna get better, I wanna achieve the best results I can possibly get and improve to get even better results" these are just the honest facts
shadow wind
Yup yup
I wanna improve my team building so I'm seeing how building around different centerpieces works
bold geode
Cuz sadly this isn't like example like Marvel Rivals where you can play shit characters at events and possibly flex cuz you're goated with it
At some point especially in this meta, you'll hit a wall if you're running the low tier restricted
molten oasis
Cuz sadly this isn't like example like Marvel Rivals where you can play shit cha...
No
I’m just built different
bold geode
I’m just built different
But Zacian is not the Mr Fantastic of Pokemon so
bold geode
Lol
shadow wind
But Zacian is not the Mr Fantastic of Pokemon so
Dude Zacian is probably one shamillion times better than Kyurem Black
molten oasis
True
shadow wind
I'll see how Zacian goes when I get to it
Cause currently KB is so bad 😭
Bro can't do nothing to CIR
bold geode
But yeah if you're just wanting to do shit for fun like yeah sure fuck it do whatever
shadow wind
I challenged myself to hit 1500 with every restricted
bold geode
Like I make content, I can't judge
shadow wind
For team building purposes
bold geode
Also Wolfe changed the thumbnail for his Yanmega video after like
A month of it being up
shadow wind
He does that sometimes
bold geode
I mean I get why
shadow wind
Like the Sneasler video(I think)
shadow wind
I mean I get why
Why?
bold geode
It helps algorithm/views and shit
Like idk how many he had before the change but rn he has 2.4 mil
shadow wind
This one changed a lot
bold geode
Basically it's a way he can like essentially present an old video as something "new"
bold geode
Get more clicks cuz some might think "oh hey this is a new video" and then they click and realized it's not
Basically like how a lot of YouTubers do click bait thumbnails
shadow wind
Seems odd
bold geode
Generates more views which can generate more dough which is good considering this is his full time job
Like it's not really that bad of a method to do when you think about it
Considering people play the videos more than once anyways
Hell I throw his shit on while I sleep or as white noise
shadow wind
But to get more art has gotta cost more than it gets back
I watch his old stuff
Like the "X Pokemon to Rank 1!" videos
Glaceon to rank one my beloved
bold geode
Not really
Considering he already probably pays for the editing and original thumbnails
Like really it's just a small extra fee onto what's already there
Depends what the stats on the videos are
The rating it gets and the analytics/what profit he gets out of it
molten oasis
I challenged myself to hit 1500 with every restricted
Who have you finished so far?
foggy lodge
Also Wolfe changed the thumbnail for his Yanmega video after like
A month of it ...
Isn't it the thing of youtube to have up to 3 thumbnail
shadow wind
Who have you finished so far?
Groudon
Lunala
Kyurem White
molten oasis
Kyurem black does suck
shadow wind
Been on KB for like a week 😭
molten oasis
But like, mewtwos gonna be awful
bold geode
Isn't it the thing of youtube to have up to 3 thumbnail
I mean that too
He can just have them ready to switch whenever
molten oasis
Palkia is gonna be ass
Resh and Zekrom is gonna be bad
Good lock cuz that sounds so miserable lol
shadow wind
But like, mewtwos gonna be awful
Nah cause psyspam is strong
molten oasis
But the horse
shadow wind
If Lunala did it so can Mewtwo
molten oasis
Eh ig
molten oasis
Loaded dice (this niche hardly works)
shadow wind
I guess he’s good into Kyogre comps?
molten oasis
But so is Kyurem white
And Kyurem white does it so much better
Cuz it threatens it lol
foggy lodge
I mean that too
He can just have them ready to switch whenever
Maybe
Wolfey has to be top 5 content creators personally
Not just from Pokemon or videogames
I mean in youtube in general
solid frigate
KB just fucking sucks
molten oasis
Currently yea
With all the new videos he’s pumping out I’d say so
I like the Mario odyssey speed runner’s videos a lot rn
solid frigate
if there is any legendary restricted pokemon i would just think its depressing
Its Kyurem Black
At least Dusk Mane during Gen 7 is the more popular pick to change to Ultra Necrozma
foggy lodge
I like the Mario odyssey speed runner’s videos a lot rn
I like a channel that talks about a lot of different things but it's in spanish
If you know spanish i would recommend it because its goated
foggy lodge
The subtitles work well with his videos
shadow wind
Kyurem white was so much better
molten oasis
I couldn’t sit through it I got so bored
shadow wind
I ran specs tera ice, killed anything and everything
solid frigate
I tried learning Spanish
at least we have 3 spanish translators in the server (Lyco,Maxi and Luna)
shadow wind
Just can’t do that with KB
foggy lodge
mamawebo
molten oasis
I ran specs tera ice, killed anything and everything
I think even just specs is plenty lol
solid frigate
Just can’t do that with KB
the most Depressing Restricted so far
i would even argue its lower than Mewtwo-
molten oasis
Ice makes sense I just think the guy wants a defensive Tera
Fire pairs with fusion flare which I like
molten oasis
I OHKO’d a Zamazenta without Tera fire
How?
When I did calc I couldn’t ohko zama
Oh. Beads?
shadow wind
Maybe, I honestly don’t remember the situation
I just know he went high in the sky then Zama was gone
little plank
Isn't this game still expensive lol?
patent marsh
Isn't this game still expensive lol?
it's more 2nd hand usually value is a lot less than buying new which you can find a lot on sale as well
little plank
it's more 2nd hand usually value is a lot less than buying new which you can fi...
35 still seems pretty cheap, I might just go pick that up.
astral kelp
whats a good ghost type killer that learns wide guard
pls let me use the guzzlord
theres literally like no ghost and dark types that learn it
solid frigate
wdym banned-
shadow wind
Mienshao
solid frigate
its banned ;-;
wdym by banned
shadow wind
Could be like a draft league or something
astral kelp
wdym by banned
I'm playing like ou doubles
solid frigate
I'm playing like ou doubles
isnt Regular Zama not banned in here OU
astral kelp
I went for suker punch instead
astral kelp
isnt Regular Zama not banned in here OU
I'm not sure actually i thought it was but I might be wrong
shadow wind
Mienshao is usually better than Hitmontop as Incin is threatened by it and its quite fast
shadow wind
With Hitmontop?
shadow wind
Honest question, why not play VGC?
astral kelp
Endeavour does not work against people with brains man
Also literally nothing I can do about ghost types rn hahaha
shadow wind
Is Incin allowed?
astral kelp
Maybe I'll try it in vgc after I've perfected it more
shadow wind
I would drop detect
astral kelp
Wide guard is like obligatory for a team with 2 level 1 pokemon lmao
astral kelp
I would drop detect
Maybe? What instead
astral kelp
Yeahhh
Carbink @ Shell Bell
Ability: Sturdy
Level: 1
Shiny: Yes
Tera Type: Ground
IVs: 0 Atk
- Endeavor
- Protect
- Spikes
- Sandstorm
Phanpy @ Focus Sash
Ability: Pickup
Level: 1
Tera Type: Ground
IVs: 0 Atk
- Endeavor
- Protect
- Sandstorm
- Roar
Ogerpon-Cornerstone (F) @ Cornerstone Mask
Ability: Sturdy
Tera Type: Rock
EVs: 156 HP / 176 Def / 176 SpD
Impish Nature
- Leech Seed
- Ivy Cudgel
- Spiky Shield
- Follow Me
Tyranitar @ Smooth Rock
Ability: Sand Stream
Tera Type: Ground
EVs: 76 HP / 132 Def / 124 SpD / 176 Spe
Careful Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Roar
- Foul Play
- Taunt
- Stealth Rock
Exeggutor-Alola @ Sitrus Berry
Ability: Harvest
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 252 HP / 132 Def / 124 SpD
Calm Nature
- Trick Room
- Leech Seed
- Protect
- Dragon Tail
Hitmontop @ Red Card
Ability: Intimidate
Tera Type: Dark
EVs: 132 HP / 116 Atk / 136 Def / 124 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Fake Out
- Sucker Punch
- Wide Guard
- Detect
This is complete meme as you can see lmao
knotty mirage
Huh do you play on reg G using that team ?
astral kelp
Idk ou os a wild experience
I wonder if lv 1 shell bell carbink would ever be viable
It kinda randomly sweeps teams all the time
shadow wind
VGC all mons are level 50
astral kelp
Ye but a lv 1 endeavour phanpy will still do like 90%
shadow wind
No like, they are always level 50
astral kelp
Oh
shadow wind
You don’t get to change their levels they’re just always set to level 50
astral kelp
Wait really? That so fucking lame
My dissapointmmetn is immeasurable and my day is ruined
shadow wind
I feel like it wasn’t always like this but nowadays it is
It is a little boring but it’s definitely for the better
shadow wind
Weather wars would be so cancer with reverse speed creeping
astral kelp
Lol that's so funny actually
Little league looks fun I kinda want to try that format
shadow wind
Now you gotta get creative with items like iron ball
astral kelp
That slows you?
shadow wind
Cuts your speed in half
solid frigate
where is that pinned comments for the VGC guide
shadow wind
Probably in the pinned message thing
solid frigate
Probably in the pinned message thing
its not on my browser on the phone so yeah thats why i asked on it
shadow wind
I doubt on there it’ll tell you to use iron ball Groudon with nasty plot Incin though
shadow wind
its not on my browser on the phone so yeah thats why i asked on it
Ah my bad
solid frigate
i should Update the VGC Guide that my teambuilding Group made before
cyan smelt
Nasty plot incin kinda heat though
solid frigate
god pls no-
shadow wind
Heat wave more like
solid frigate
Heat Miss
shadow wind
Room service nasty plot
cyan smelt
I also saw someone using gravity Groudon with scream tail sing
shadow wind
🧠🧠🧠
shadow wind
I also saw someone using gravity Groudon with scream tail sing
Sounds like a goat
cyan smelt
Sing is better than hypnosis because it goes through sub
cyan smelt
Worth it
solid frigate
im in my college updating my VGC guide that was made during Reg G Wave 1-
cyan smelt
Can hypnosis go through sub
shadow wind
Nah
shadow wind
Me when crunch Scream tail with howl
astral kelp
ive actually been winning pretty consistantly i gotta say
Insta lose to spikes, burn, any ghost type, them doubling carbink etc etc
cyan smelt
Gotta say that crunch entei is seeming pretty good to deal with caly s
shadow wind
Tera normal 🙏🙏
cyan smelt
Then it just uses its non spread move or E force