#competitive_discussion
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And if not they are AV and most of the time they go with lik Chi-Yu or sun restricted
So they end up having a boost
Hehe Tera grass has been very nice you should trwy
hows your break?
Eh
The damage boost has won me a lot of games
Uhmmm ermmm I was a teensy bit lonely
How do you play it?
Bolt AV+Tera Grass is kinda good ngl
Understandable ^o^
I'm just a little bit stumped on the Koraidon Project,you can see i almost blow myself apart from it in my server
Best of luck
thanks Luna
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I got a whole write up in rental channel but basically it’s tailwind psyspam with pawmot cushioning
I’m curious on Tera fighting
252+ Atk Miracle Seed Rillaboom Grassy Glide vs. 108 HP / 0 Def Urshifu-Rapid Strike in Grassy Terrain: 158-188 (83.5 - 99.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Grassy Terrain recovery ez
180+ Atk Iron Hands Wild Charge vs. 108 HP / 60 Def Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 162-192 (85.7 - 101.5%) -- 6.25% chance to OHKO
108+ SpA Raging Bolt Thunderclap vs. 108 HP / 104 SpD Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 162-192 (85.7 - 101.5%) -- 6.25% chance to OHKO question
What is generally the amount of evs an av raging bolt hits?
I don’t see many over 150
Ok
Ok
I love the positivity exhibited, it’s so vibrant 🥺
156+ SpA Raging Bolt Thunderclap vs. 108 HP / 128 SpD Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 162-192 (85.7 - 101.5%) -- 6.25% chance to OHKO
I’ve managed to free up 60 points
Now do I shove it into speed or put it into bulk to eat hands
awwwww precious little bean
Does 132 speed do anything significant?
for Bolt or Shifu?
usually CM Pagos do not run over 130+ Raw Speed iirc
And I don’t have points to outspeed Pagos
you usually outspeed CM Pagos,Not sure about Power Herb,but def not for Specs
Was referring to specs
then no cuz they run Max Speed Modest
yeah i forgot cuz i haven't play specs Pagos
I could lower the attack but I think 156+ is just nice
What does the tang ogerpon hit?
like Raw Speed?
What does the CIR tang team ogerpon hit speed wise
Ogerpon-Hearthflame (F) @ Hearthflame Mask
Ability: Mold Breaker
Tera Type: Fire
EVs: 220 HP / 12 Atk / 252 Def / 4 SpD / 20 Spe
Impish Nature
- Ivy Cudgel
- Horn Leech
- Spiky Shield
- Follow Me
133 Raw Speed
yea-
Nvm figured it out
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike
Ability: Unseen Fist
Level: 50
Tera Type: Fighting
EVs: 72 HP / 156 Atk / 4 Def / 144 SpD / 132 Spe
Adamant Nature
Accomplishes same thing
And outspeeds that ogerpon, so now i can do this
156+ Atk Mystic Water Sword of Ruin Tera-Water Urshifu-Rapid Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 220 HP / 252+ Def Ogerpon-Hearthflame on a critical hit: 180-216 (98.3 - 118%) -- 99.22% chance to OHKO
hmmmm
@molten oasis 138/9
Ok
138
So underspeed it in tr that’s fine
where have you been Monke-
Chillin
Gooning in rivals you mean sir
My new favorite hero
Goon Knight

The Goon Haunts You
Anyway
KonGoon
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike @ Mystic Water
Ability: Unseen Fist
Level: 50
Tera Type: Water
EVs: 76 HP / 156 Atk / 4 Def / 140 SpD / 132 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Surging Strikes
- Close Combat
- Taunt
- Detect
Thoughts?
holi
looks solid enough
testing will tell
Only if it’s soliddddddddddddd
why this Urshifu feels peak condition
at least in this Meta rn
OH COME ON
lol
Does even it survive an astral barrage
Actually nvm probably I have a much frailer build and it still survives
usually it does
Usually?
Can someone help me get some bps
252 SpA Calyrex-Shadow Astral Barrage vs. 76 HP / 144 SpD Urshifu-Rapid-Strike: 150-177 (81 - 95.6%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
I’m tryna get 3000 bp
if its Modest that is
Try LO
then that kills
Butt
Butt
It should
LORB always kills it’s not even worth it
we love Lo in this household
I don’t
same here
Unless its Lando
I stole it
Irrc Urshifu can never live +1 Barrage as long as its at least SpellTag(maybe even without aka Specs)
My Urshifu lives TClap 😎
Yea so did mine I use the same evs you do
But I wasn’t finding 252+ that wasn’t proto or LORB boosted so I adjusted spreads
Hey Tofu
How's it going today
me too :3
156+ SpA Raging Bolt Thunderclap vs. 76 HP / 140 SpD Urshifu-Rapid Strike: 156-186 (84.3 - 100.5%) -- 6.25% chance to OHKO me thinks this is enough
Would smogon EVs be fine here or is this a team built very specifically?
Well rip, MDB isn't releasing the entire set yet until after LAIC
Oh I didn't mean the Ubers EVs, sometimes they have VGC sets too
from his twitter
Huh I thought he was holding it since he has friends and students using it for LAIC
Thanks!
Is entei viable?
in certain groudon and zama teams
tera normal espeed applies so much offensive pressure too
it has the same priority as follow me/rage powder so if you outspeed the redirector you ignore it
Now to figure out how to pilot it
you have a few worlds games to figure out his gameplans
Side eye
Birmingham regional was his cut off afaik
Or euic
Scarf Entei to outpriority Ogerpon
@torn parrot yo
we got a james baek video
the james baek
3 time regional king and 3rd place worlds man of the year
the guy who makes videos
did u see that shit bro i just got off work
i love u eriksp
Entei is very okay with zacian
Incin is absolutely why I don't fuck with Zacian
Ik, and idc
Not doing that again, anyway
I’ll probably write up a summary on the moon zacian team
And post a rental, the team was fine just fell off cuz the core for really popular
Butt
Geez hehe
I ran psyspam caly to little success start of first wave but you guys team rlly gots it down 
The question is detrimental
Just teams in general? I mean I got a decent enough team rn
Was that a pun?
Not entirely sure a team can be that comfortable
Not sure how it would be cozy
fire types
That’s not cozy
they keep you warm and nice
That’s just hot
Oh, yea cuz she can put about anything together and it works perfectly
Clearly my stuff ain’t good enough 
It just be like that
Op maya tbh
Psyspam is so seemingly mu dependent but she don’t care
I don’t have any ideas as of rn
I’m trying csr roaring moon rn
I think I got that somewhere in the vault
One was pretty bad
Tried going with an offensive set up
I like the fairy typing
Bundle hehe silly little frosty
I used a bundle balance team reg E I actually rlly enjoyed it
But I’m back to leaning towards rain
Bundle iron hands flutter chi yu Lando and ursh
Ursh sometimes just be taking the win
Back to using scarf ursh
Rain boosted surging strikes handled a lot of choices
Fake out I just switch out which ever options suits me
Rilla out speeding tsareena sometimes cost me
And I sacked bleak wind for hurricane
yea well, I support her but I’m definitely jealous at times of how seemingly easy it is for her to make something work well and it takes me 5 years a miracle and the dragon balls lol
so I try to just take small steps and care less about others results cuz it fucks with my head
I guess that shows the gap of skill-
I don’t mean any harm
crap that’s not what I meant
Just figured I say smth, it’s no one’s fault I care about others progress compared to mine way too much
Man wouldn’t it be really cool to have one of those
Plus it means you can consistently plan matchups
But I play zacian so uh, cough I’m on my own
Ngl I did struggle with that at first
that's absolutely true
I didn’t like the idea of being bested because I’ve been doing this for so long
Y’all are helpful I just have to do the testing part on my own
But I came to terms with it
Which kinda sucks sometimes cuz I wanna do other things+work
Everything looks easy on the outside 😌
We all have our own valid struggles~
Ik id be better at the game if I played real restricteds but Zac is my favorite ill stick with her
I’m free to help 
Sword doggy 
I’m like a god at the game (if at 1000 elo)
:/
I’m a Lunala/Dawn wings user the struggle is real
Jokes aside
Zac sounds fun
It is
I play Groudon
I gotta go home now, cuz I bike, but uh, I’ve said my things, I meant no harm saying those things
If it did I’m sorry
The move that benefits me for having bad rng
Eh you’re fine I doubt anyone took offense to that
GRAVITY
I got a gravity choice band set somewhere
Gravity trick room set
I wasn’t offering it was just a statement
I like to switch it up every now and then

You dare pat me
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i understand the frustration, it's easy to just get stuck in the team builder with a problem that's really hard to solve i get it
it helps to have a friend like fuchsia there who just comes up with really cool fun ideas so i can just focus my brain on that instead of me being like "I'm gonna make the best overall Zacian team, im gonna make the best overall ho-oh team, i'm gonna make the best overall CSR team" cus that just aint gonna happen, either it's already been made or i aint gonna be the one to crack it. it helps to just lean into a cool idea, in reg g that's all you really can do
things aside, congrats , maya 
thanks so much (:
keyboard did an oopsie there 
Valid
I also don’t ask people
But I’m also pretty sure I’m the only one that religiously plays zacian lol
sometimes its better to take a break from stuffs to get better perspective or play other restricteds or even game
just saying
Haven’t really felt like I needed to

I get the experience and mu practice needed by playing into it
And I find everything else pretty boring to play so, I will play zacian and only Zac
well korai and Kyurem are ok but mostly Zac
I also don’t play 30-50 games every day
I get ur point
Turn up the emo music and yolo it
I wear exclusively pink and black basically 
Hi tofu
but i wear all black i must be an emo
Gae
thanks
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What are yall doing
teaching Eni VGC haha
Let me join smhsmsj
yez
i wear exclusively neon green clothing from head to toe with neon green hair and neon green star shaped glasses and also i have neon green skin
Are you that hawk from sonic
thats not how that works 😭
it totally is tho
just saw some neat tech, skill swap cresselia next to zamazenta to give zama levitate lmao
r u grass tera
lol
its so funny
you gotta watch out for iron hands on those teams though because they'll low kick you
i mean against IH i can just rage powder/play around FO
oh amoonguss of course
no real threats with low kick
and why would u bring low kick instead of CC
or drain punch
low kicks are usually for zama aren't they
huh why
no ik but why? why would u make it favour against a mon and lose out general output
This move's power is 20 if the target weighs less than 10 kg, 40 if less than 25 kg, 60 if less than 50 kg, 80 if less than 100 kg, 100 if less than 200 kg, and 120 if greater than or equal to 200 kg.
Fighting
Physical
0
100
20 (32)
Copied by Mirror Move.
Makes contact.
its max on 120
i guess it's because legendaries are generally heavier
120 + e-terrain boost
its just the same damage output with CC
- stab
idk i've just seen a lot of hands running low kick, ig because no drawbacks
Fire/Dark
Blaze, Intimidate (Hidden)
95/115/90/80/90/60
530
83kg (80 BP)
1.8m
Generation 7
Torracat
Field
M: 87.5%, F: 12.5%
Red
80 bp against incin
low kick was definitely on that farig miraidon team that won something
with drainpunch
Oh right tera water lando now
water lando's nice
i mean tbf poison tera does have some use
similar to fire tera, with extra fighting resist but doesnt avoid burns
Bug is definitely good for it
idk about bug tho
i like bug
bug is ass. ur just open neutral to most stuff i feel
Fighting, Grass, Ground
Bug, Dark, Dragon, Electric, Fairy, Ghost, Ice, Normal, Poison, Psychic, Steel, Stellar, Water
Fire, Flying, Rock
and open to fire flying
Electric, Grass, Ground, Water
Dark, Dragon, Fairy, Fighting, Ghost, Normal, Psychic, Rock, Steel, Stellar
Bug, Fire, Flying, Ice, Poison
Grass-types are immune to Powder-based Moves.
bug is for lando
hmm
so you go neutral to ground without going weak to poison
And Zama body press?
and hands is so tanky being neutal to a lot of things is fine
Bug, Dark, Electric, Rock, Steel
Dragon, Fighting, Fire, Flying, Ghost, Grass, Ice, Normal, Poison, Stellar, Water
Fairy, Ground, Psychic
Electric-types cannot be paralyzed.
Remember when tera bug bolt was a thing
Morning all
What's happening
Nm, got today off work because the Mrs is at a concert so going to put some prep into storyboarding my B'ham video 😄
Nice
Not a whole lot, did one game so now I need to play more
Mood basically
But I did catch @torn parrot and @atomic portal team being presented by JB, GGs
One game of?
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Oh fair
Zama + chien Pao is a good lead
I don't have Amoonguss on my team
I can also lead tornshifu if I'm not worried about being outsped
I hate Zama Amoongus, because you prioritise Amoongus you get murdered by Zama, you prioritise Zama you get slept by Amoongus
Only buys you a turn or two with heavy slam
That's why you wisp it and intim cycle
Sorry
:p
Haha my beef is with game Devs deciding to give the stupid dog body press not you
as much as i don’t like playing vs zama im glad it got body press rather than it being as unviable as in gen 8
Fair lol
Ima run roar or whirlwind lol
Or red card
Red card Amoongus 🤣
I ran that in the GC
Great minds
Covert and red card is what keeps me alive during gcs cuz I have the most fun with those
U ever just spore a Rilla slot knowing they are going to attack u
Huh

Getting cooked my a cloak Miraidon made me want to yeet my switch on day 3
To be fair cloak miraidon is fairly common
Anticipating the uturn lol
(the red card proc)
That makes more sense, thought he was talking about cloak
dont tell me Cloak Mirai is the new Archetype For Mirai
Wait really i never seen cloak miraidon in my laddering experience all of them seem's to still use the good ol choice Spec
I've seen a lot more bulky Miraidon with pcharge
Blorb
Me
Assault vest miraidon
Me who run bulky scarf miraidon 
I think the set is like Parabolic charge, Dragon pulse, Calm mind and Protect with a covert cloak
Anyone have the tang moon speed?
paste is public
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2296263765-t2o4vouo6f4y5jme57es5cystdm1deepw cool boost bro
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Wicked
if he wasn’t stupid u were fucked😭
emma emma look at what ive done
this is so dumb

+3 calm mind, grassy terrain up and grass tera
idk tbh as long as he is below 90 Eleki and Urshifu KO with Tera Electric Tbolt. Given the Pagos isnt full def
like if he attacks with incin out ok. obvi but Protecting Tutel instead of CM kinda fucked my tempo anyway. I kinda needed him to burn the food
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Damn that was a throw
oh you’re chorizogrande? lmao im pretty sure i’ve played against you before on ladder
coughing Baby vs Untoppled wall
Miraidon + Calyice could be so interesting with double restricted, Miraidon replacing the volt switching Eleki
csr terapgos believer
except i'm using a different Dragon
Im going Kyogre Groudon 
peak
lmao the throwback
also i already got the V2 Version of Dialga CIR
Oh fuck
I hate how right you are
cir my opp
I’ll probably use Koraidon and Calyrex S
I'm still a Dialga CIR beliver but eh whatever
yeah joking aside i might do Kyogre + CSR
specs CSR, Scarf Kyogre
its normal to wanna use faves
NUKE EVERYTHING
CIR is not my fav but it just it pairs so WELL with Dialga
Ill prob use zam csr or terapgos csr
err considering the fact terapgos removes terrain and weather
i dont think itll be very easy to pair with much
I may still run imprison Zam 
curious, in what way
good options
Trick room Kyogre and calyrex I may work, somehow…
Dialga being Utility Restricted which supports CIR in TR
I can also make a TW part where i can outspeed CSR by 2 Points
roaring moon has proven to be good with both caly ice and kyogre i do wonder
doing what though
I was thinking about putting kyogre in trick room lol
https://pokepast.es/b857a79e49a6fa46
with something like this as the team
set up TR,gets Dragon STAB
Wait didn't i showed you the concept before-
but the lack of a dmg item makesit a bit weaker
interesting :3
yall already plnning it like its coming soon sobs
I kinda hope it does though
https://pokepast.es/a418ecc738cdf91c (origin Forme)
https://pokepast.es/71b51391a0f7e4c5 (Altered Forme)
So far my ideas
https://pokepast.es/07440e378b67b43c
this is probably going to be my main team
i'm gonna use my Shiny Dialga for double restricteds
if you are going hard TR, Ironball lowers speed more than room service
i'm not gonna make that joke
Double restricted: Cosmog incoming
God I haven't even thought about a real double restricted
In SwSh I used Zamazenta + Eternatus
Changed it 👍
room service might have decent useage in Tailroom team

It also is ok with zacian
Oh y’all we’re cooking done res
https://pokepast.es/ea8d485917f527fa I did this the other day
Looks cool
It’s got an iron ball now
If battle bond greninja holds a loaded dice and uses water shuriken, will it hit 3 times or 4-5 times?
I think if you want to flex Kyogre onto a trick room team you’re probably better off using it as a choice scarf pokemon to have a fast option
like imagine farig/kyogre/CIR/rilla
you have scarf kyogre + helping hand farig to threaten stuff like incin/chi-yu/etc. that all scare caly-I
4-5 times
You have?
I don’t remember
I try a lot of things
it was a while ago i think but it was a funny name so it kinda stayed w me
Scarf Urshifu
I might try scarf kyogre + Ally switch Farig but feels like a BO1 strat
No way wolfey is bringing lunala to EUIC
Back on the unorthodox train I see
he will do until worlds since hes already qualified
so excited to watch EUIC
work yea
i would if i had the time but im not gonna go out of my way to watch, ill look at results tho
What day is euic
Okay guys, Normal type mono team
22nd/23rd
Hit me, what are some good options
last weekend…?
Am I being gaslit 
Indeedee, Ursaluna, Farig, Terapagos, Ditto, Smeargle
Maushold
Ambipom, Porygon2
oh and ofc Furret
sory @torn parrot almost forgot the goat for a second there
context is always helpful lol
Thats pretty much the entire context lol, doing a monotype thing in a server
VGC afaik, just no Terapagos
Or any other primary restricted
Rn i have sets for
Meloetta
Zoroark-Hisui
Ursaluna
Porygon-Z
Indeedee
Farigiraff
Maushold
Ditto
Porygon 2
I forgot about Smeargle
Ursaluna-Bloodmoon + Zoroark-Hisui
You will give people aneurysms
Is blood moon better than Reg?
depends on your need
its good with Zoroak because both get hyper voice stab to piss people off
Yes this is a furret meta don’t you forget it
What items would fit? I'd been doing throat spray Zoroark but that'd break cover
Because after the spray they'd know which is which
Focus Sash Zoroark
Or Specs
I like nasty plot on it so maybe sash
Forcing a fake out into it for a free nasty plot is so nice
that is not funny
To you maybe
Yeah but Nasty Plot breaks cover
This reminds me of the one time during reg h someone used nasty plot meowscrada
And also nasty plot incin
Nasty Plot + Sash + Overgrow ggez
Wouldn’t swords dance+ sash+overgrow+ flower trick be better?
Probably, but sp.a mons want Nasty
EQ spam is so nice tho, rip reg ursaluna
What are other psychical Normal walls?
Because I have
Meloetta (Mixed, technically)
Zoroark (Special)
Ursaluna Blood (Special)
Technically rn I'm running Porygon-Z but I could swap that
Physical or Psychic, you fucked up there
Lmao
Spelling go brr
Physical attackers
throat spray hyper voice spam
whats your team
aw man ):
@real prairie gonna have fun facing this next reg
Ill send the paste when I get home for the current build
Kk
ik im nitpicking but i hate seeing the lvl 92 on incin for some reason
rest are at 50
jokes aside it looks cool
happy friday everyone 🙂
lol real
Id expect hands still for TR
happy friday 
I’m debating band shifu cuz it be funny
i agree
cheating is bad
Hmmmm I should try this myself
You're a scam
ty
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I wonder when they’ll announce the NA regional that hasn’t been said yet
we are getting dangerously close to the date lol
True, I’m all set on NAIC again
Get back in there
Great
Tera fighting CIR
and fucking ho-oh beat me
This ladder sucks so much sometimes
life: how unlucky do you want to be?
Me: Yes
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And then I got screwed by rng
how long are these usually?
me missing Willo, High horse power and being earth power crit in the same turn
usually 6-7 swiss rounds, 60 minutes each
- top cut maybe 7 ish hours?
at the very least
go for showdown tours then
rounds are way shorter
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Welp, the team has an easy time with kyogre at least
does Queens Majesty block side prankster moves?
population bomb on archalleadon is so fun
thats super helpful, can slow my own mons down in TR
Nice
im thinking
what if i make the flamingo a special attacker
because it costars archaleadons special attack boosts
I just got a free steak 
just learnt Solgaleo learns wide guard
Yep
sad
why does muddy water pelipper kinda solo lmfao
Because
red card + Fake outs + Encores really triggers Zamazenta players lol
What mon has that on your team
Incin has red card, Ludicolo has fake out encore
Red card is so useful into anything proto boosted aswell
nice
So far this either feels good or awful
Flutter Yu is annoying and incin can’t do anything into it
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trying a bulky miraidon is not the move sometimes
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Give Incin red card and it boots flutter right outta there 🤣
matcha gotcha sinistcha is actually lowkey goated
its currently 1v4ing my oponent lmfao
and i have it build support
OMG AND I FORGOT TO GIVE IT AN ITEM
Flutter fishieee hehee
lol no
FEEESH
Cheers for the win earlier lol
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RED FLAG 🚩
Yay
I’m debating if I go and play like
Hearth, or just, lead Zac Whimsi into flutter fish
You not running pelli?
tailwind def seems like a good tool into flutter fish regardless of what you end up choosing for your team
It’s stats suck slow tw is awful, and playing that mon fckn blows it’s so lame
I’m playing wake Whimsi atm
https://pokepast.es/4c1409e7284d2648 so far this is just hit or miss
Wake and Zac are usually ok I feel it’s everything else
Feels bad? Ok did you play the team
Play the team before saying it feels bad genius
Cress moment
why did you get so mad lmao i was joking
You know I've always said walking wake is mid
It is not its stats are crazy
It's less that WW is bad and more "that asshole monk bear does fwg cores better"
What’s the struggle mostly against
Cuz I’m asking for advice and rn is not the time to joke, for my sanity, plz
And I suck at reading if it’s a joke or not
honk
Hi emmie
good mornie
Mornies?
but i have to stay up till Kat done streaming so we can book our vancouver bnb…
@twin kindle im gonna explodeeeee
Ooo :3
water shifu helps a bit with 2 of those 0-0 but that’s kinda basic
lucky youuuu~
Little lovebirds 
not lucky me we were supposed to do this days ago
I’m aware
But the team is for wake
the procrastination situation is crazy
tell me about it!!
dumbies
Ooo :3
Maybe Tera fire rilla
rilla incin always berry nice
Look who’s talking 
hey i dont procrastinate that much
mainly just on school work
The truth I sense screams copious amounts of lies

isnt that the standard rn,,,,
Hehe yeah 
just stick with 2 imo
Like rn I think these 3 https://pokepast.es/974f827224794606 and an ogerpon are good
Idk what to do with the other spots
Pao feels like an Easy slot-
Yeah I meant prob replace rock oger
Fire weakness is real big with Zac teams wowa
you only play Wake in Sun teams
Zac also has the problem of "Incin and Urshifu exist"
Didn’t ask man
you are the one jamming Wake where it doesn't belong/work
Wake a niche mon that does the one thing it needs to do and otherwise flops
Hey hey
Mutually respected opinions yeah?
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Nah, WW is solidly locked to Sun Restricteds
Losing to the two most played mons in the format is pretty bad
ahh, if you respect stats above all then that does make sense
I don’t remember asking you
We are talking competitive, ofc I'm talking numbers
Also fun fact
me when chi yu
No sun restricted wants wake rn, they have answers to the things they care about
I suffer the pain
Incins existence doesn’t invalidate zacian’s viability
Incin is the number one killer for Zac
number two being Urshifu
If this was Gen 8 Zac I'd be more inclined to favor Zac
but they nerfed Intrepid Sword too hard
here's something im worried about with VGC..
the way i learn is spamming things until i figure out what works. its a bunch of trial and error. and that's what i did with TCG
idk if VGC can be spammed. there seems to be an infinite amount of possibilities.
idk maybe im wrong
firm believer it doesn’t fit here
Looking at Pokeduels's VGC arc has been the only good thing about twitter rn
I can't stand PokeDuels lmao
^she got cooked in team canada vgc discord for being annoying asf
Its so funny😭
shes even worse on discord
Reading the other tweet about how they were oblivious to the type chart beyond the TCG was painful
I understand it but still, damn
damn
there must be another reason other than dumb
I muted that account so fast when it popped up on my timeline I'm ngl
I can't tell if it's a bit or not because I don't know them at all but it seems they've never experienced anything of the franchise outside of TCG and it's not their fault but it hurts to read their posts
I just choose not to see it
is just insufferable to look at type
They said the last time they played a game was diamond and pearl
So already that doesn't make sense consistency-wise
love the like 3 people calling them out then the one person still tryna be nice and helpful 😭
I'm not going to try to understand it but one of their latest tweets was about how they didn't know the version they played mattered, I guess they didn't pick up on that back in DP

They’re the little piggies that feed off slop
The person in question is indeed puntuable 
yus
Indeedee
i agree alot tbh
yeahhh
ive read about 5 messages abt them and 1 ss of them and would rather not ever have to see them again
I don’t think I cared enough to consider the possibility
🫧🫧🫧🫧🫧🫧🫧🫧🫧🫧🫧🫧🫧🫧🫧🫧🫧🫧🫧🫧
But thanks to this convo I now know to punt them 
unless it’s justified
And if not you just gotta PROTECT
you gotta be able to DETECT trouble
And make it double
ur one of the youngest here
and i say goes hard !!
It's me, I'm also the kids
Nuh uh I’m actually 5000 and an anime witch girl
Checks out
Young one
Hearing you suffer yesterday was funny

That sounds scary
It was very scary
Hearing you play vgc was silly
There will be more to come probably
Yuss ^o^
Yeah, Leo's got me running his balanced team here https://pokepast.es/04e00443a67c82cd
||Boo~||
'twas giving it a shot
Oh so basically the same ol CM Terapagos shit

Sgit 
Think the idea was just to give a beginner like me something that's a little low effort
That's literally been seen everywhere
Not a bad team tho
Don't let Drago see that spelling mistake
Oooooooooooooooooohhhhh
And they didn't give you Shadow Rider?
Yeah terapgos cm isn’t easy
It feels easy ngl
I think calyrex balance teams are definitely more bread and butter
Like when it starts working it snowballs
I had maybe one or two matchups that didn't allow it, outside of that felt fine
eni did vgc??
I mean I'm open to recs
oo balance pagos okay
It’s rly hard when you cant change ur typing and the most op mon in the game can hit you for super effective bypassing protect
Not sure what CSR is capable of though no
both horses snowball hard due to abilities
This Pokemon's Special Attack is raised by 1 stage if it attacks and knocks out another Pokemon.
Oh I've seen Ice do it
the other is that but just atk
CSR is fast as hell and gets NP
honk
and you can go psychic with astral barrage for decent coverage and hurt a ton
or tera fairy draining kiss
Oh it's that Scotty fucker
to deal with dark types

Yu sound like Leo rn
theres many CSR teams
Leo was yapping yesterday

i like zama they kinda just clicked for me on the MDB team
never actually tried the horses but they look fun i should
Ew zama 🙄
csr
:(
Actually I haven’t used terapgos for a while it’s fine now
for just starting out a hard TR CIR team can be pretty easy to get going aswell
Tbf I don't know what I'm talking about anyway so ignore what I say about Pagos
CIR sus is a very strong duo
Emma hello
hi
Lot of shit last night was flukey
clear amulet tera fire CIR means you cant get your damage cut really
Honestly you learn by playing and watching others play best 
yeah
Too much yap at once can get overwhelming
cybertron can be good to watch
i dont awtch him lmfao i just played while streaming to monkey nova and got shit talked (by monkey)
I smell a bias
Was gonna say I don't watch anyone here or on YouTube play but I tune in to what I see on Showdown
I just play game and talk to friends
I play tunes
real
Looney tunes
I learned most from regionals easily
friends are alot better than I am so it nice to learn from them
Yeah you fuckin suck dude
regionals and friends is how i llearned primarily
Friends…erm about that

you were the worst e speed teacher and i now have a vendetta vs E speed

Actually I'm very curious
Aura sphere
Leo thought I was fucking insane so I wonder what Monke would have to say
This can't end well
My connections are as deep as my freshmen emo poem
L- ucario aura
im pro at yelling in kats ear “IF UR GOD YOU’LL DO THIS” and its the most ridiculous play possible with like a 10% chance of success
You just gotta believe
em while watching me just is silently praying ill make the obvious best choice
I'm pretty sure I once told Scotty like "don't be a bitch bro"

and then being disappointed when u click something crazy
dude you and nova always have conflicting plays and waiting the timer down was the worst thing ever
Oh Emma you would hate to see me go too
Profanities
how bold
I DIDNT KNOW HOW TO USE KYUREM
Actually I did once and then I remember Rayquaza immediately died to a Kyogre Ice Beam
That’s that 4x
I BEAT YOU ONCE OR TWICE ON MY ZAMA TEAM WDYM
You just couldn't move your fingers fast
I have not watched them, they are running rampant
Ray explodes to an icy wind alone
in what world does this matter😭
The current timeline
they werent that dumb of plays then :<
What if-
I've beat Emma
I haven’t
Then she wiped me like I wipe my ass but we don't talk bout that
Doctor strange told me she beats me in every one 🙄
It’s a canon event
Dr Strange saw no realities
I might do some more later but idk if Leo is gonna be here
i lost to you while playing random teams, i lost to luna on a flinch & a 12.5% ohko roll and i lost to the ludicolo guy while i was learning random ladder stuff i am just the worst
I was about to say I’m here
@charred saddle are you gonna be here
Fuck it we vibe
Then I forgot I’m flack0 not le/leo
That his pronouns or
Shadow ballin out
ima still count them cus youre a scary player and a win is a damn win
whatda
What's on the menu chat
to be flattered or be embarrassed
No man that’s basically what I go by
I go by le or Leo for short
vancouver test
The real victory is the friends made along the way
You'd think the Le is short
for?
Some people just call me le
Show sauce?
oh another EniVGC road?
no?
Others just Leo
What
I no share
The chicken
"the Ludicolo guy" - F my mans
Idk ask ur pookie 
And uh
Obama said to show sauce 
building with others who also don’t want it shared
@plain drum pookie 
Oh ok

I gotta dookie
catch me on the Vancouver stream :3
jokes aside when are u gonna do them eni
Idk when are you free
For eating a cookie
lemme get some food a bit
Okay
prob flattered cus i know ill never beat you again 😭
then ill join
I might do like one or two on my own and send replays or smth






