competitive_discussion

[real prairie]

lost to a 99% miss https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2293578892

https://tenor.com/view/pain-suffering-death-star-wars-gif-25111888

i love baiting wide guard: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2293581984

[twin kindle]

You didn’t miss a single one during our sets sobs

Actual glasses kyogre

[chrome knot]

so maybe its the horse

[real prairie]

I missed back to back power whips though 🤣

[twin kindle]

I love caly

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-maybe-its-may-be-line-gif-10684985

[twin kindle]

It terapagos zacian and zam are the most 💅🏻

I tried life orb caly

[torn parrot]

Mayhaps maybe it’s maybelline

[twin kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/precure-all-stars-cure-ace-kiss-explosion-anime-gif-20353310

[torn parrot]

Yayayayaya

[real prairie]

I was very tempted to try scarf Caly next to stonjourner

Just because power spot is a free life orb 🤣

[twin kindle]

I just fought a chien oso stoinjoiner help

[real prairie]

Just as I say it lol

[solid frigate]

Calyrex:I'm gonna piss on the moon

[sick gust]

Anyone want a perfect IV hisuian zorua?

[twin kindle]

Take care of your child , mister

[sick gust]

?

[twin kindle]

That’s the normal reaction to everything I say

[sick gust]

Is this just a shit posting channel? I just joined

[twin kindle]

HELP

[molten oasis]

Yes

[twin kindle]

Nono it’s for competitive battling

[sick gust]

Lol

[twin kindle]

No thank you though, very kind of you to offer

[sick gust]

I just needed an item traded, but when I saw the channel, I just thought I'd offer. I had a bunch of perfect IV h zorua from breeding for a shiny

[twin kindle]

What item is it

[sick gust]

Already taken care of

[twin kindle]

Yahh ^o^ happy for you!

[sick gust]

@twin kindle you must be bored

[solid frigate]

@real prairie

[foggy lodge]

Monowater lmao

[solid frigate]

Bolt just nuked it

[real prairie]

What tit is stealing my title 🤬

[real prairie]

Good, put it out of its misery. How dare they disrespect my piña like that

[chrome knot]

very important to my learning as a vgc player

[next stump]

howdy people

[solid frigate]

Howdy

[real prairie]

Yo D, What's cooking

[next stump]

just wrapped up work for the day

[solid frigate]

cool

[real prairie]

Whatcha do?

[next stump]

8th grade history teacher

[solid frigate]

nice

[real prairie]

Nice! You teaching them the real shit or the fake stuff? Lol

My ex's school tried to teach them that the battle of independence started over a snowball fight 🤣 it's only because she was in the IB that she got the real history haha

There's a whole town of people in valdosta Georgia that believe it was a snowball fight because that's what their schools taught them

[real prairie]

This was a joke btw I'd imagine you are an excellent teacher if your poke skills are anything to go by

[next stump]

LOL thank you

it’s a very weird time to be a history teacher in america

there is a huge assault on knowledge and history

[real prairie]

History is written by the victors

[real prairie]

You'd think the things that already happened would be the simplest to teach but people keep insisting on rewriting history

What period is your speciality? I always enjoyed ancient Mediterranea

[opal trout]

Hello

[dense latch]

history teachers were always the chillest

i hope they get their fair share of vgc knowledge as an add on lol

[solid frigate]

be Dillon's Student lmao

[torn parrot]

The easiest mono in the world

[foggy lodge]

https://x.com/syokoractvdd/status/1886225663151198344

ショコラ (@syokoractvdd) on X

29位で予選抜け！使ってたのはザマゼンタでかなり自信ありでした。
そろそろ本戦も勝ちたい

X · Feb 3, 2025, 1:30 AM

Its a cool team

Maybe Cresselia Zamazenta can be used and skill swap to get +1 on Cresselia and levitate on Zama seems good

And lunar blessing with safety goggles to heal Zama from burns and spores

[real prairie]

oh great, an even more annoying Zamazenta

[solid frigate]

its really only B01 stuff tho

not buying that too much

[foggy lodge]

Depends if it's used for bo3

[opal trout]

Your favourite 😭

[foggy lodge]

Its explorable

[solid frigate]

i'm just running Cress pagos and did not even bother on skill swap cuz Pagos's Ability is too good

[real prairie]

if you skill swap it though it gets another use (the post tera ability) so you could use it as a way to reset the weather twice

[twin kindle]

I can see zam cress working somewhat well

[foggy lodge]

https://pokepast.es/d2cef6753dc01560

Desbeste's team from worlds

[bold geode]

Just saw this
Pisses me off it's so fucking simple

[opal trout]

It works though

It managed to get 3rd at worlds

[dense latch]

it’s pretty maddening in bo1 lol cresselia so annoying to get rid of

[foggy lodge]

Punching glove XDDD

[left bobcat]

I was happy to see bundle

Then I saw punching glove

[lofty tartan]

I dunno why people still insist on running Urshifu with Punching Gloves. So bad

[left bobcat]

Well it was like that for me at the beginning

I skipped Gen 8 so I don’t know any of ursh’s bs

[lofty tartan]

I didn't play much Gen 8 either. But I read the requirements through Unseen Fist.

[left bobcat]

When I saw ursh for the first time I was like hmmmm

Then I saw the punching glove item so I did some digging

[uncut dawn]

steel tera bullet punch with punching gloves and helping hand on scizor can ko something?

i never used it but seems like a very situational item

[lofty tartan]

Or you could run something that doesn't need to commit so much to try and take KOs.

Punching Gloves overall is pretty meh in VGC.

It only boosts punching moves, and at that only by 10%

Choice Band or Lorb do way more. Even a plate does more.

[uncut dawn]

yeah idk who could make good use of that

[left bobcat]

Yeah just LORBBB

[lofty tartan]

Lorb is mint.

[left bobcat]

BLORP

PLORB

ORBLP

[lofty tartan]

https://tenor.com/view/backing-away-slowly-sienfeld-uhm-sad-gif-16801993

[tiny karma]

Item: Punching Glove

Holder's punch-based attacks have 1.1x power and do not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[real prairie]

lol

[left bobcat]

But whenever I use a punching glove it gives me a 1.5x boost

[twin kindle]

Doesn’t it cancel out its ability

[left bobcat]

I think so

Lettuce google it

[tiny karma]

Ability: Unseen Fist

This Pokemon's contact moves ignore the target's protection, except Max Guard.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[twin kindle]

Conceptually urshifu is awesome

[left bobcat]

I feel a but coming

[twin kindle]

A Mon so calculated you can’t protect against it and a Mon so strong you can’t even react

[left bobcat]

Oh nvm

[twin kindle]

But ITS SO CANCER

It’s okay I grew to love it

[left bobcat]

Oh nvm there’s the but

[twin kindle]

If it wasn’t a thing incin would make the game unplayable

[left bobcat]

Maybe that was gamefreak’s answer

[lofty tartan]

Yeah it does

[twin kindle]

I wonder what ursh dark was made to counter

[lofty tartan]

Punching Gloves prevents contact. Unseen Fist requires contact

[left bobcat]

“Hmmm but let’s not nerf incin let’s infact make another pokemon that not only counters incin but is broken in it’s own right and lets milk it for money”

[twin kindle]

Probs just like ogers were made to counter amoongus and ursh

[lofty tartan]

So Gloves removes the biggest bonus to running Urshifu

[left bobcat]

Then when people started having a problem with ursh

Gamefreak sends Ogerpon

[twin kindle]

Incin fire money glitch

[left bobcat]

ITS A CYCLE

it’s part of pay to win

[twin kindle]

Thankfully oger and terapgos aren’t urshifu or calyrex tier

[left bobcat]

People have a problem with Calyrex so gamefreak sends terapagos

[twin kindle]

Wait ur right help

[left bobcat]

Gen 8 dlc gets countered by Gen 9 dlc

Then Gen 9 dlc will get countered by Gen 10 dlc

AHHH DAMN IT we’re stuck in a loop

[twin kindle]

Though ogers and terapgos are kinda balanced rn 0-0
Especially when Tera is gone

[left bobcat]

Ogerpon balanced?

[twin kindle]

sobs maybe not the fire one

But once Tera is gone it won’t be anywhere near as nuke

My point is I wonder if they did that to prevent what happened last time

[left bobcat]

Mold breaker, 110 speed, 120 attack, gets a signature move that is base 100 and has a high chance to crit, spiky shield, and if it uses Tera it gets an attack boost

[twin kindle]

They made them rely on Tera so they wouldn’t be op in the game forever like ursh and caly

[left bobcat]

Fire Pon is a nuke

Fire pon with sun boost can nuke anything even if it resists

[twin kindle]

Bonkers typing too hehe

[uncut dawn]

what y'all think about choice band grass pon?

[twin kindle]

Ursh and fire pon is a peak core

[left bobcat]

Just use LORB

[left bobcat]

Fire pon, rapid ursh, and whims

[twin kindle]

Life orb or miracle seed probs 0-0

[left bobcat]

Grassy terrain, Tera grass, life orb, ivy cudgel sounds deadly

[twin kindle]

Ur wasting its great protect alternative

[uncut dawn]

with grassy terrain that probably hurts a lot

[left bobcat]

And if we add sword of ruin-

[uncut dawn]

never tried it tho

[left bobcat]

And if it gets a defiant boost

[uncut dawn]

it does get it with sword of ruin?

[twin kindle]

Grassy glide swords dance oger my reg F beloved

[left bobcat]

No

[uncut dawn]

rip

[left bobcat]

So it’s basically

Defiant boost, Life orb, grassy terrain, Tera grass, sword of ruin boosted ivy cudgel

[uncut dawn]

imagine if you could make fire pon hold items

weakness policy fire pon with a 0 sp atk surf by your side

[left bobcat]

The same could be said for the rest the others

[uncut dawn]

true

[left bobcat]

Choice band/scarf rock pon

[solid frigate]

this give me flashbacks

[left bobcat]

Now wood hammer tho-

[little plank]

This regulation has got to be the worst lol

[left bobcat]

🪵 🔨

[uncut dawn]

talking about grass types

i miss my boy kartana.....

[solid frigate]

Reg G Wave 1 is alright,its not bad

But Wave 2 feels horrible

[left bobcat]

There’s only one person to blame-

The true culprit of everything

[uncut dawn]

incineroar

[little plank]

Calyrex

[twin kindle]

Probablemente my 2nd fave sobs

[left bobcat]

Oh I was gonna blame torrent but you know that sounds about right

[twin kindle]

I love calyrex and terapgos

[solid frigate]

oh no the team comp is alright but like

Its annoying

[little plank]

Every battle after 1500 is calyrex

[solid frigate]

turtle gang

[left bobcat]

And zama

[solid frigate]

not even Kyogre and Miraidon?

[twin kindle]

I loved spectrier since swsh

I called mine Ellie

[little plank]

Nope just calyrex

[uncut dawn]

i don't think that's the worst reg just because i still have flashbacks of the zacian meta in swsh

[little plank]

dawei and tangs team every battle

[left bobcat]

Emo my little pony

[solid frigate]

i mean Double restricted is alr its not the worst

[solid frigate]

as Chinese i have mixed opinions on those teams lmao

[shell python]

Where is the channel that help me evolve pokemon i gota trade?

[twin kindle]

+1 252+ Atk Choice Band Tera Grass Sword of Ruin Ogerpon-Teal-Tera Ivy Cudgel vs. 252 HP / 156+ Def Incineroar in Grassy Terrain: 193-228 (95.5 - 112.8%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

Not as flashy as my chi yu smh smh

[shell python]

?

[solid frigate]

#trading_sv

[uncut dawn]

the issue wasn’t double restricted it was zacian lmao

[left bobcat]

?

[shell python]

I got a shiny feebas

I want to evolve it

[left bobcat]

Oh

[shell python]

What if someone scam

[left bobcat]

I’m all the way at skewl

[solid frigate]

true lmao

But at least The horses aren't annoying

And i like CIR Dialga Comp here

[shell python]

?

[twin kindle]

How did zacian even fall off so bad…looks at fire oger and chi yu ..

[little plank]

tera fire and those 2

[uncut dawn]

they gave the option for two restricted mons but it was basically only one since zacian was mandatory in every team

[solid frigate]

i mean it had fallen off but still relatively good imo

Definently top 10 imo

[solid frigate]

basically

Unless your name is Groudon Lunala

[uncut dawn]

true

[twin kindle]

That’s not a very high bar

[little plank]

every team IU tell you lol

[uncut dawn]

no dynamax

[solid frigate]

i would still say its alr

[solid frigate]

not really

without dynamax Zacian is still like top 5

[left bobcat]

We gon be ALRIGHTTTTTTT

[twin kindle]

Atm it’s kinda just worst zamenzeta

[uncut dawn]

i meant the “nerf” from swsh to sv

[twin kindle]

Oh also they nerfed their ability’s too

[uncut dawn]

i don’t think it will happen with ogerpon in the next gimmick tho

[solid frigate]

if thats what you mean then make sense

[dense latch]

https://tenor.com/view/kendrick-kendrick-lamar-kdot-kendrick-lamar-duckworth-not-like-us-gif-8758493136595446049

[uncut dawn]

gamefreak really put effort to make sure ogerpon will still be good without tera in the next games

[left bobcat]

And that’s the way I like ittttttttt

[solid frigate]

i mean without Tera its gonna be a bit more supportive so i don't think ogerpon will be that bad in next gen

[left bobcat]

Will ursh still be ursh?

[twin kindle]

I don’t see a world where it isn’t nerfed

[left bobcat]

If anything it’ll get buffed

[dense latch]

knowing game freak it’ll get a buff

[left bobcat]

What if ursh gets fake out?

[dense latch]

unseen fist now does DOUBLE damage into protect

[twin kindle]

They nerfed urshifu darks move I assume the same will happen to surging strikes

[left bobcat]

Really?

[dense latch]

80 —> 70 BP i think

[left bobcat]

IT WAS 80?

[left bobcat]

Well it’s 75

[dense latch]

nvm nerf was to 75

[twin kindle]

Help 5 bp

[twin kindle]

They were definitely under nerfed

So next gen is gonna get em

[left bobcat]

Tera dark wicked blow exits so not like that -5 really affects it

[uncut dawn]

i hope they nerf incineroar for the next gen

[left bobcat]

I mean probably just barely

[dense latch]

the ability is a bigger problem than the sig moves

[tiny karma]

Move: Wicked Blow

This move is always a critical hit unless the target is under the effect of Lucky Chant or has the Battle Armor or Shell Armor Abilities.

Type

Dark

Category

Physical

Power

80

Max Power

130

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Punch

Boosted by Iron Fist.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[craggy dagger]

here ya go

[little plank]

@solid frigate lmao

[craggy dagger]

base 80
dropped to 75

[dense latch]

he’s only gotten buffs ever since it’s been released they might keep it up lmao

[twin kindle]

Yuss

[solid frigate]

I'm literally chatting with my teambuilding Group on how to beat that team and its variants with Koraidon

[craggy dagger]

they did

[twin kindle]

They’ll add a defiant restricted that’s ground fairy

[craggy dagger]

they got rid of knock off for gen 8

[dense latch]

then for some reason they gave it back to incin

[twin kindle]

Evil evil

[craggy dagger]

knock off was taken for parting shot

then incin got both

[uncut dawn]

there was no reason to give him parting shot too lmao

[twin kindle]

Why did they give it helping hand like it wasn’t very good but

[uncut dawn]

he already had intimidate and u turn

[twin kindle]

There was 0 reason to give it helping hand

[left bobcat]

It’s a cold world out there

[twin kindle]

I think GF has a favorite

[uncut dawn]

imagine if they decide to give him coaching LMAO

[twin kindle]

Sacred fire incin

[craggy dagger]

oh god

[uncut dawn]

they don’t care about charizard anymore

[twin kindle]

Although its move slots are kinda perfect rn

[uncut dawn]

incineroar is the new favorite child

[left bobcat]

Charizard?

[solid frigate]

Luna no-

[little plank]

I just tanked myself back down to 1200 so I can enjoy the game

[twin kindle]

Spore incin

[left bobcat]

Luna YES

[twin kindle]

Incin becomes a pure stellar type so nothing can hit for super effective next gen

[left bobcat]

MAKE POKEMON GREAT AGAIN 🦅

[uncut dawn]

fire spin incin

[left bobcat]

I’m still wondering just how will terapagos be able to access its other form once terastilization is gone

[uncut dawn]

so he can lock anyone there and keep switching

[left bobcat]

Zacian is gonna be there crying

[uncut dawn]

oh god mega gengar will be back

[craggy dagger]

perish trap gengar

[left bobcat]

Sucker punch-

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 94: Gengar-Mega

Types

Ghost/Poison

Abilities

Shadow Tag

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

60/65/80/170/95/130

Total

600

Base Species

Gengar

Sableye version 4.28.1

[uncut dawn]

maybe they do something like battle bond

[twin kindle]

NO WAIT

[craggy dagger]

i doubt it

[twin kindle]

As one incineroar with intim and shadow tag

[atomic portal]

@torn parrot

[craggy dagger]

and that would just be so much worse anyways
battle bond got nerfed to the ground

hi maya

[atomic portal]

the repository was updated so both our teams are back to back with rank 1

[twin kindle]

Ayy :)

[craggy dagger]

oop-

[atomic portal]

cart and ladder 🫂🤝

[left bobcat]

Ayyyyy

[torn parrot]

Haha that’s fucking rediculous

[left bobcat]

Yooooooooooo

[twin kindle]

Yer both great *o^

[left bobcat]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOAHHHHHHHHH

[atomic portal]

ur greater

im just the robin to batman

[left bobcat]

I’m grape 🍇

[atomic portal]

she the real mf

[craggy dagger]

don’t discredit yourself
it seems like you two are both equals

[twin kindle]

Now now, you both impress time and time again

[craggy dagger]

yeah!

[twin kindle]

you are awesome too, you can’t escape.

[craggy dagger]

untrue

[twin kindle]

VTRUE

[craggy dagger]

nuh uh

[twin kindle]

Dang you got me there… 💔

[craggy dagger]

[twin kindle]

nah seriously though I admire ur creativity

I go caly or bust

[craggy dagger]

my creativity gets me nowhere cuz i’m not good at playing

[twin kindle]

Naw, it gives you a lot of knowledge and experience

My knowledge goes…ASTRAL BARRAGEE BRBRR

normal type!…??
TERA STARSTORM

[chrome knot]

@craggy dagger turns u into salad

[left bobcat]

Did someone say EXPERIENCE

[solid frigate]

tortol

[left bobcat]

Ooooo I should make a team using the turtles

[craggy dagger]

why

[left bobcat]

Oooo is it tuna salad?

[chrome knot]

i dunno

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2293812993

me doing random bullshit

[left bobcat]

Hopefully no one ate my leftovers

[uncut dawn]

incineroar will knock it off

[left bobcat]

M- m- my tuna salad

[uncut dawn]

my master rank climb only to get a mark for my sinistcha was a success

[solid frigate]

un un un

[uncut dawn]

https://tenor.com/view/memes-gif-19117466

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/regirock-un-un-un-locket-regirock-locket-un-gif-26271978

i wish it was better so i can use it for being funni

[uncut dawn]

try to make it work using explosion or smth lmao

[solid frigate]

maybe lmao

[uncut dawn]

go for ghost rider calyrex with explosion regirock so it can't get hit

[little plank]

uhhh so I forgot I qued for this and came back afterwards to find this https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2293831552

When I try to play the against that team I lose every time when I dont even play welll

[craggy dagger]

Holyyyyy

[chrome knot]

game goes for too loonnnngggggggggg

[craggy dagger]

EMMA QUICK
do i get a couple packs of paradox rift?

[chrome knot]

wHA

is it ur only option ?

[craggy dagger]

or base scarlet violet

[chrome knot]

paradox rift :3

yeah sealed is like extremely low stock rn people are psychopaths ;c

[craggy dagger]

i’m so sad
there’s no prismatic evolutions

[chrome knot]

for vancouver if we dont day 2 come pway side events cup bc 5-2 or better = booster box ^-^

[craggy dagger]

oh ok-
that’s cool

[chrome knot]

yus

[craggy dagger]

wait
booster box-?

[chrome knot]

kat and I opened 2 booster boxes @ toronto :3

[craggy dagger]

well that gives me an incentive to bring my switch-
decided i should lock in on school so no official comp

[chrome knot]

ohhhh okie okie ^-^

[uncut dawn]

i refuse to buy tcg cards where i live, they translated the names of the characters and they sound terrible lmao

it's sad tho i reallly like the cards

[chrome knot]

im like 2/2 on pulling the stupid art rare terapagos from booster boxes I receive from play pokemon events lmao

[craggy dagger]

whaaaa

[molten oasis]

I’m waiting on a box of crown zenith in the mail rn

Hoping to pull smth

[chrome knot]

hehehe yeaahhh

got one from Worlds fantasy draft booster box & from Toronto cup booster box

[craggy dagger]

danggg

2 packs of rift acquired-
though
rift doesn’t have many chase cards,,.

[little plank]

welp went from 1570 elo on showdown earlier to 1053

[chrome knot]

?????

[little plank]

its been a struggle

Its time to join the dark side

https://pokepast.es/e46121250ca44514

[molten oasis]

How did you tilt queue that much

[little plank]

Every other team is that roaring moon caly ice team and I cant beat it with zacian

[molten oasis]

What’s your team with Zac

Cuz I don’t struggle too hard into that team

[little plank]

The standard zacian team

whim drago zac waterpon ditto chi yu

[molten oasis]

Well no wonder you struggle once tr goes up you kinda immediately lose

[little plank]

Yup thats the problem

[molten oasis]

I also don’t think that team holds up as much as it did

[little plank]

I mean zacian in general doesnt hold up as much as it did lol

[molten oasis]

Zac is fine

[little plank]

Beccause there is so many of them being used lol

[molten oasis]

Whimsi chi yu stuff lacks rn with Zac

Because of that team

You need some anti tr thing like taunt or Fari

Or have something that can eat a couple hits from it

The team that did well at San An has torn shifu Fari and Hearthflame

I think Zac shifu hearth torn is a very strong core for Zac

Zac itself is good into shifu CIR (fairy Tera) and moon

So if it’s well positioned it can get through that team pretty ok

[dense latch]

as a cir player the biggest threat in a zac team usually ends up being farig

you can either reverse tr or take advantage that your opponent will likely want to get rid of farig asap

[molten oasis]

Try out the San An team

[twin kindle]

Geez , sorry about that

[dense latch]

i feel like farig does wonders into csr balance specifically too

[molten oasis]

Shifu’s also a good piece into CIR

[dense latch]

bc you lose a shit ton of tw turns and momentum if you can just get faked out non stop

[molten oasis]

Or don’t play Regidrago cuz it sucks into CIR lol

At least I don’t feel like it’s good into drago, don’t take it to that mu

[dense latch]

used to be nice pressure till cir became tera fairy lol

[little plank]

Never do

[twin kindle]

I swear every cir Tera is different

Im like it’s surely fairy - it’s fire
It’s surely fire- it’s water
It’s surely water- it’s fairy

It’s surely fairy - ITS GHOST?

[little plank]

Yeah I hate the tera mechanic for that exact reason

[dense latch]

that’s why ots became a thing this gen

bo3 ladder is a blessing

[dense latch]

lmaoo whatt

[little plank]

I dont have time for tournaments so never do b03

[twin kindle]

Me when I tried to fake out and lost the game instantly

[craggy dagger]

you can’t forget about rock tera ice rider
cuz that exists for some reason

[molten oasis]

Bruh

[twin kindle]

Next time it’s gonna be bug I can feel it

We gotta cover the dark weakness with Tera bug blast

[dense latch]

i think tera rock might arguably be like the worst tera type u can choose

[molten oasis]

I don’t have this issue

Stellar Tera blast

[craggy dagger]

ionno what was going through their mind but i’m guessing it has to do something with resisting cornerstone and hearthflame

[dense latch]

is there any tera type that is used less than rock

[craggy dagger]

psychic

[molten oasis]

Psychic

[dense latch]

rock doesnt resist rock tho

psyspam

[craggy dagger]

[dense latch]

at least in like reg h

[molten oasis]

Does the psyspam Mon rn use psychic Tera

[dense latch]

but rock has got no usage throughout the entire game

[molten oasis]

I’ve never seen psychic Tera CSR

[craggy dagger]

[twin kindle]

LOL

Nah honestly anything expanding force can hit at +2 LO probably dies anyways

You know what it can’t kill…

https://tenor.com/view/chi-yu-pokemon-nasty-plot-gif-1863182498515930244

[molten oasis]

Yk what else it cant kill

[dense latch]

SASH REGIELEKIIII

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/chien-pao-yippee-jump-happy-dance-gif-27595010

[twin kindle]

I love the jolly little psychos

[molten oasis]

Chien Pao is oblivious to the damage it causes

Happy lil guy

[twin kindle]

He just wants a hug

He doesn’t know his body gives insta frostbite cmon…

[molten oasis]

Real lol

But if it did wouldn’t there be a chance to freeze on contact

(This would be broken and stupid)

[twin kindle]

Wait omg

The next legend is gonna be water fire and burn anything that hits it 😌 easy ursh counter

[molten oasis]

It’s gonna be too physically frail and explode to close combat

[twin kindle]

💔

Okay it’s gonna be water ghost

[molten oasis]

How would it burn

[twin kindle]

It’s ability will be called , Will of the water 😌
And after every attack it does it inflicts burn

[molten oasis]

That makes no sense lmao

[twin kindle]

LIKE WILL O WSIP TRUST

[molten oasis]

Also shifu gets paired with pao a lot

And I doubt we’ll have Tera next gen

[twin kindle]

True

I wonder if they’ll even add terapgos next game

It’ll be so irrelavant

[molten oasis]

Oh I just realized

We’re less than a month away from pokemon day

Will we finally get news about ZA?

[molten oasis]

They have to

If they add the bikes

[twin kindle]

So they played around with moves, items, hp stat, types, what’s next 0-o

Abilities?

[molten oasis]

Idk if they’ll mess with the stats

[twin kindle]

Dmax brr

[molten oasis]

Zacian would be strong again

[real prairie]

Where should i put the rest of the points?

its got enough speed to outspeed non scarf Urshifu + 188sp Ogrepon and enough SpAtk to OHKO both with Hurricane

I can't get its defence high enough to survive a surging strikes unfortunately

[twin kindle]

Most choose to be either full offense or super defense both is hard

[real prairie]

yeah, wondering if putting it into SpDef is the idea, then with tera survive a thunderclap (maybe, haven't done the calc yet)

[molten oasis]

the tera should eat tclap anyway

[real prairie]

mmhh

do i just go with a more defensive tera

[molten oasis]

the faster torn i think aer usually sash with tera ghost

[real prairie]

realistically if they are taunting me they are not getting their own TW up, so scarf Kyogre should be the fastest thing anyway

[real prairie]

can't give up the sash from Pao unfortunately

[molten oasis]

you have pao? why?

[real prairie]

Miraidon counter

[molten oasis]

why not rilla

[molten oasis]

check*

not a counter

i run spinner pao

[real prairie]

same

[molten oasis]

i still lose quite often its not a counter lol

[real prairie]

it kills or forces a tera, which leaves it vunerable for Kyogre to clean up later

[molten oasis]

volt switch+whimsi tw t1

[real prairie]

TW + Ice spinner

[molten oasis]

eh fair enough

does hurricane just not kill?

like shifu and ogerpon at lower invest

[real prairie]

I need it to outspeed and kill waterpon so i wen't off the usual waterpon build i was given

waterpon is hell to me

tbh if i can't think of anything else to invest in, i might just go max speed, then even if they are max speed waterpon i still outspeed

[molten oasis]

124+ SpA Tornadus Hurricane vs. 252 HP / 28 SpD Ogerpon-Wellspring: 186-218 (99.4 - 116.5%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO

huh

[real prairie]

Was going off this

[molten oasis]

uh, i mean if you had rilla i feel that would help

or bolt

52+ SpA Tornadus Hurricane vs. 196 HP / 4 SpD Ogerpon-Wellspring: 180-212 (100 - 117.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO

so say you go for killing wellspring you just need to go max max imo

idt theres value in bulk i think

[real prairie]

yeah i guess max max is the safest bet considering Ogre spreads vary so much

[molten oasis]

could just add smth for it as well

another thing for it

[real prairie]

does weezing turn off Dauntless shield?

[molten oasis]

yes

[real prairie]

whats Zama usual Def investment?

[molten oasis]

@bold geode

idk

[mint void]

@real prairie arnd 244 where the bump is

[bold geode]

Wha

Oh
Either 244 or 156

[mint void]

^

[real prairie]

any HP?

thanks btw

[twin kindle]

What ive seen is like 100 hp 244 def for bulky sets

[real prairie]

God i hate Zama lol

[mint void]

@real prairie 252 on slow 156

Or 156

[real prairie]

danke

[chrome knot]

dawei mu is so scary 😵‍💫

[twin kindle]

Wowhwh

[tiny karma]

Move: Matcha Gotcha

Has a 20% chance to burn the target. The user recovers 1/2 the HP lost by the target, rounded half up. If Big Root is held by the user, the HP recovered is 1.3x normal, rounded half down. The target thaws out if it is frozen.

Type

Grass

Category

Special

Power

80

Accuracy

90

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Defrost

Thaws the user if frozen.

Heal

Cannot be selected under Heal Block.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[real prairie]

LOL

2 for 2 burns on me, ridiculous

[plain drum]

[mint void]

Bitte

[real prairie]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2293939216-9lf6nse04smfu4vl0h3quyaf027r0tnpw

I got cooked but.... Cloak Miraidon, WTAF

can tell from the way im playing im tired though

[chrome knot]

bo1 always has fun stuff

[left bobcat]

Getting cooked was an understatement

You got obliterated

[cyan smelt]

I never bother faking out when I see miraidon anyway because they usually send out farig

[viscid wren]

I suck at team building and I'm not too into competitive, but I think I'm going to try to find a way to incorporate Ampharos into a semi-viable team (trust 🔥 )
right now though I can only see some form of usefullness in its alright sp.atk stat, its ability to learn helping hand, and its many paralysis options

[dense latch]

best of luck making that work because it doesn’t look good

i feel like it just gets outclassed

[viscid wren]

it absolutely does

amph really has nothing special going for it, but it's my favorite yellow sheep

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 181: Ampharos

Type

Electric

Abilities

Static, Plus (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

90/75/85/115/90/55

Total

510

Weight (Low Kick BP)

61.5kg (80 BP)

Height

1.4m

Introduced

Generation 2

Other Formes

Ampharos-Mega

Pre-evolution

Flaaffy

Egg groups

Monster, Field

Gender Ratio

M: 50%, F: 50%

Color

Yellow

Sableye version 4.28.1

[cyan smelt]

Feel like it'd get one shot by a lot of things

[tiny karma]

Ampharos's moveset:

Physical Moves

Body Slam, Breaking Swipe, Brick Break, Brutal Swing, Bulldoze, Counter, Dig, Double-Edge, Dragon Tail, Dynamic Punch, Endeavor, Facade, Fire Punch, Fling, Focus Punch, Frustration, Giga Impact, Headbutt, Hold Back, Ice Punch, Iron Tail, Low Kick, Mega Kick, Mega Punch, Natural Gift, Outrage, Power-Up Punch, Return, Rock Smash, Secret Power, Seismic Toss, Stomping Tantrum, Strength, Supercell Slam, Tackle, Take Down, Thunder Punch, Trailblaze, Wild Charge

Special Moves

Charge Beam, Dazzling Gleam, Discharge, Dragon Pulse, Echoed Voice, Electro Ball, Electroweb, Focus Blast, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Meteor Beam, Power Gem, Round, Shock Wave, Signal Beam, Snore, Swift, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunder Shock, Thunderbolt, Volt Switch, Zap Cannon

Status Moves

After You, Agility, Attract, Captivate, Charge, Confide, Confuse Ray, Cotton Guard, Cotton Spore, Curse, Defense Curl, Double Team, Dragon Cheer, Eerie Impulse, Electric Terrain, Endure, Flash, Flatter, Growl, Heal Bell, Helping Hand, Ion Deluge, Laser Focus, Light Screen, Magnet Rise, Magnetic Flux, Mimic, Odor Sleuth, Protect, Rain Dance, Reflect, Rest, Roar, Safeguard, Sand Attack, Screech, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Thunder Wave, Toxic

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Ampharos.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[left bobcat]

☝️

[dense latch]

tbh

[left bobcat]

🧃

[dense latch]

i didnt even know ampharos was in sv

[rustic mountain]

come back from break and sd wipes all my teams again

[dense latch]

welcome back

that sucks tho ):

[bold geode]

Rip
They wiping your team just like Nico is wiping my hopes and dreams

[left bobcat]

Welcome back

[rustic mountain]

its fine its happened so many times b4 im used to it

[bold geode]

Real talk, I want that man fired LMAO

[left bobcat]

Welcome back

[cyan smelt]

Upload everything to showdown servers

[next stump]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/816145606761644064/1336181306274480211/image0.jpg?ex=67a2df50&is=67a18dd0&hm=987bc0e0b3c66d1fdedc3ebaea66327a25d6389ff3cc4e98fa14ec7d99b094c0&

[rustic mountain]

lmao i saw some post that the new owners are basically making the mavs bad so they can move the team to vegas

[next stump]

anyone know if there is an OTS of these 6? i feel like it was used at a regional

[bold geode]

Honestly deadass I was sitting at work today like "do I even wanna be a Mavs fan anymore like"

[dense latch]

if you’re a mavs fan
my most sincerest condolences

[rustic mountain]

he is

[left bobcat]

Yeah

[rustic mountain]

or was atleast

[bold geode]

I'm so fucking angry dude

[dense latch]

legit such a weird trade

[bold geode]

Yeah dude the Mavs are in Los Angeles and wear yellow right?

[dense latch]

im a heat fan and like i gotta deal with the whole butler stuff but that’s nothing compared to losing what should’ve been a lifer

[rustic mountain]

i feel like ive seen it b4

[bold geode]

People are saying he deserved a statue

[dense latch]

he did

[rustic mountain]

id have to do some digging tho

[bold geode]

Like bro should've been a lifer for sure

[rustic mountain]

yea

as a basketball decision it was not good

[bold geode]

Now we got bum ass AD

[rustic mountain]

ads not a bum

[bold geode]

Our season gonna end with a fuckin nosebleed

[rustic mountain]

hes just not luka

[dense latch]

i dont see what the lakers do from here either

go for a decent center ig

[bold geode]

Our season gonna end cuz AD gonna get a cold

[rustic mountain]

lakers rn arent great but going forward they are golden

[dense latch]

yea they’re starting to plan a post lebron era

with a bang

[bold geode]

I also love like
Actually fuck it imma post it here

[rustic mountain]

its kinda awkward for them atm w/ luka/bron/reaves and little frontcourt help, defensively they are terrible

[rustic mountain]

lmfao

[bold geode]

They didn't have Luka or Kyrie but like bro
They got BLOWN TF AWAY DUDE

[rustic mountain]

did ad even play

[dense latch]

i saw a vid of mavs fans holding a casket for the team outside the stadium

[bold geode]

Nope
Couldn't have, the trade was made literally the day before, like I think Luka just got to LA today

[bold geode]

Yes that's been going around on Tiktok

[rustic mountain]

yea so like wtf is the announcer even yapping about

[bold geode]

Idk but it's still fucking hilarious

[left bobcat]

Excuse me

[bold geode]

Idk I want Nico to be fired like ASAP

[rustic mountain]

i admit trading luka and the comment was kinda assinine of defense wins championships but mavs are actually a top 4 team in the west atm imo

[dense latch]

dumbest part is
you trade luka away bc of health concerns and you bring AD?? THE injury guy??

[left bobcat]

ASAP ROCKY

[bold geode]

PREACH

[left bobcat]

PEACH

[dense latch]

its a me

[left bobcat]

ISSAMEMARIO

[bold geode]

Also the dumb thing like
So the reason why they traded for Kyrie in the first place was cuz they needed another good ball handler besides Luka so like when he's out we got one and when he's there he got another guy

We got that problem solved GREAT
And now you just created that problem again

[rustic mountain]

tbf now u got a guy u can just dump it into the post to

[bold geode]

Plus who cares if that mfer a lil chunky
ARE WE JUST GONNA IGNORE THESE STATS

[rustic mountain]

dont necessarily need multiple shot creators on the perimeter in that sense

[left bobcat]

Bring ya g- to crib maybe we can solve them

[bold geode]

looks at Daniel Gafford
Looks at Derrick Lively

[rustic mountain]

dude those guys are not post players

they are catch and lob dudes

[bold geode]

They been getting lobs though
Actually AD wanna play the 4 apparently

[rustic mountain]

exactly

[dense latch]

damn near 34/10/10 averages last season 😭 im so sorry dude

[rustic mountain]

he actually fits nice into their lineup, hes no luka but still

[bold geode]

But like
Don't the Mavs perimeter D suck ass?

[left bobcat]

Exactly

[bold geode]

Like ain't that the problem

[rustic mountain]

good thing u got ad to shore it up, cant be worse then the lakers

[left bobcat]

Shore it up

[bold geode]

LOL

Idk just God dude
You didn't have to do it this way

[dense latch]

palossand reference

[bold geode]

Honestly if you traded away fucking Kyrie i wouldn't have been as mad
But LUKA

[rustic mountain]

as i keep saying its a terrible move but like ad is not a bum and the mavs arent actually that much worse now, arguably they are better in a few different ways

luka isnt a player without fault, he doesnt play defense

still doesnt mean they shouldve traded him

[left bobcat]

We do that a lot here

[bold geode]

Yeah it's just gonna be hella different without him
Also the fact they basically traded away age

[rustic mountain]

yea thats the big one

[left bobcat]

Well at least I do I like to make references

Yeah it’s MASSIVE

It’s so BIG

[rustic mountain]

they have maybe a better shorter window (arguable) but long term? they gave that away

[bold geode]

Oh yeah meanwhile they gave the Lakers a red carpet for long term

[rustic mountain]

yep

and lakers are worse short term but way better long term now

[bold geode]

Also quick question on Lakers but like
Is Bronny still ass?

[dense latch]

the lakers can build a team around luka eventually

[rustic mountain]

hes fine

[dense latch]

but the mavs cant get a luka caliber player as easily

[rustic mountain]

his ceiling is 3 and d guy

[left bobcat]

Hol uppppppppp

[bold geode]

I remember mfers were clowning him like LMAO
Like bro he can't just immediately fill his dad's shoes

[rustic mountain]

he wont

[dense latch]

ppl be forgetting he’s a late 2nd rounder

[rustic mountain]

hell never be a bron type player or prolly even an all star for that matter

but he seems to have a good game sense and skill to be a 3 and d guy

[mighty stump]

How will this affect Incineroar’s legacy?

[rustic mountain]

incineroar may never recover

[dense latch]

incineroar is no longer the worst thing that’s happened in recent history

[chrome knot]

hi kylan

is this not just the tanner mask 6?

[dense latch]

https://pokepast.es/213eda3c581ea981 yea

[chrome knot]

https://pokepast.es/1725fbba7621a9d2

[bold geode]

Yeah no
Idt anyone will really compare to LeBron in the future
Like MJ the goat but LeBron close second probably cuz like
Lemme see ub

24 PPG
7.6 Reb
9.1 assists
Eh lower than I thought they'd be but still respectable for his age

Actually wait no it's fucking comparable to his past seasons wtf

[dense latch]

personally i have udonis haslem as my goat

[bold geode]

LeBron been in it for a while

Y'know who I questioned
Vince Carter
Like I deadass thought that mfer was never gonna retire

[dense latch]

dropped some insane memes tho

[bold geode]

Yeah I was like damn you old
Get outta here grandpa

[dense latch]

https://tenor.com/view/vince-carter-vince-carter-come-on-vince-carter-ceremony-vince-carter-crying-gif-11051221487886139800

[bold geode]

Now I wish he was back in it kinda

[little plank]

@solid frigate had to go back to my reg g roots

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2293999676

[bold geode]

I'm gonna miss some of these people bro

[dense latch]

landorus when it comes to missing sandsear

insane graphic

[bold geode]

Like bro take me back to the good ol Chris Paul Clippers days

With Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan
Hell ider what they called that

[dense latch]

lob city

[bold geode]

YES LOB CITY

Hell now all 3 of em not the greatest

[dense latch]

that deandre jordan poster still one of the craziest dunks oat

https://tenor.com/view/brandon-knight-deandre-jordan-gif-20399303

[bold geode]

Oh yeah

[left bobcat]

Take

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 28: Sandslash-Alola

Types

Ice/Steel

Abilities

Snow Cloak, Slush Rush (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

75/100/120/25/65/65

Total

450

Base Species

Sandslash

Sableye version 4.28.1

[dense latch]

rough

[tiny karma]

Sandslash-Alola's moveset:

Physical Moves

Aerial Ace, Aqua Tail, Avalanche, Bide, Body Slam, Brick Break, Bulldoze, Chip Away, Counter, Covet, Crush Claw, Dig, Double-Edge, Drill Run, Earthquake, Endeavor, Facade, False Swipe, Flail, Fling, Focus Punch, Frustration, Fury Cutter, Fury Swipes, Giga Impact, Gyro Ball, Headbutt, Ice Ball, Ice Punch, Ice Shard, Ice Spinner, Icicle Crash, Icicle Spear, Iron Head, Iron Tail, Knock Off, Leech Life, Low Kick, Metal Burst, Metal Claw, Night Slash, Pin Missile, Poison Jab, Rapid Spin, Return, Rock Slide, Rock Tomb, Rollout, Scratch, Seismic Toss, Shadow Claw, Slash, Steel Roller, Super Fang, Take Down, Thief, Throat Chop, Triple Axel, X-Scissor

Special Moves

Blizzard, Flash Cannon, Focus Blast, Frost Breath, Hidden Power, Hyper Beam, Ice Beam, Icy Wind, Mirror Coat, Powder Snow, Round, Snore, Steel Beam, Swift, Tera Blast

Status Moves

Agility, Amnesia, Attract, Aurora Veil, Confide, Curse, Defense Curl, Double Team, Endure, Hail, Hone Claws, Iron Defense, Mist, Protect, Rest, Safeguard, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Spikes, Stealth Rock, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swagger, Swords Dance, Toxic, Work Up

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Sandslash-Alola.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[bold geode]

This is basically like trading Incineroar for Hitmontop

[left bobcat]

Urshifu

[wild knot]

https://twitter.com/toppowoppo/status/1886627956891480329?s=46&t=iG0xFLhysjMe3DesmHFoEA

Toppo (@ToppoWoppo) on X

Moments before disaster

X · Feb 4, 2025, 4:08 AM

[left bobcat]

………

That’s a lot of balls

And a lot of pink

[dense latch]

imagine trading urshifu for current day cresselia

calyrex ice for lunala

[chrome knot]

addicted to balance

[dense latch]

thanos?

[left bobcat]

SPIDER-MAN?

[rustic mountain]

yea dude he is a monster

genuinely one of the best well ever see play

[chrome knot]

tree tree tree

[left bobcat]

Money treeeeeees

[opal trout]

Lmao someone turned off their switch playing the annoying Zamazenta team

[balmy glen]

Real

I was testing that team and made some tweaks to it

it’s lowk evil lmao

[opal trout]

It’s really fun as well

[balmy glen]

Not for the opponent

I feel like if I brought that to EUIC I’d go from the Zama hero to the Zama villain

[cyan smelt]

Is this going to be everywhere now

[opal trout]

That’s more fun for me :)

[balmy glen]

If I brought it to EUIC it would be even more promoted

I made changes to it and it’s just kinda broken but the usage will sky rocket so meh

With 1500 players in EUIC I might bring a variant maybe

[cyan smelt]

I feel like I mentioned a while ago wanting to do something with stealth rocks and yawn

Maybe that was during reg h

[opal trout]

Yawn Dondozo with stealth rock ting Lu?

[balmy glen]

It was a thing in reg f to be fair

[cyan smelt]

Nah I wanted to try something like that in reg h, stealth rocks and yawn

[balmy glen]

Prob wouldn’t work as great in that regard but ye

Honestly

I could prob dm them

The main creators

[real prairie]

Morning

[balmy glen]

Doesn’t hurt to ask

[mighty stump]

it is not good LOL

Losingn to Rillaboom as a lead blows LOL

[balmy glen]

lmao

Especially in that regulation

It’s not too bad in this reg tho

Forcing Rilla to come out doesn’t sound too bad

[opal trout]

Good morning

[mighty stump]

Snorlax is better 😎

[balmy glen]

Sure if it’s typing was different :p

[torn parrot]

No fucking way Neil is back

[balmy glen]

He’s been

[torn parrot]

I totally missed that

[balmy glen]

I’ve been facing him on high ladder for a long time now

He never left

[torn parrot]

I meant morso YouTube

[balmy glen]

He just went afk on social media

ye lol

[torn parrot]

He just posted a vid it’s cool to see him return

[cyan smelt]

Wasn't he transphobic

[knotty mirage]

Is it better to slot high horse power or u turn on AV rilla ?

[real prairie]

i prefer U-turn for pivoting out

[opal trout]

Uturn

[knotty mirage]

Hmm but how do i deal damage agains't something like miraidon tho if i don't have coverage

[real prairie]

Other mons lol

[cyan smelt]

On the topic of Rillaboom should I run drum beating over wood hammer for additional speed control

[opal trout]

Depends on your team

[cyan smelt]

I only have torn for speed control ATM and if I don't bring torn I don't have anything

[real prairie]

its an option, but thats usually on max speed Rilla

[opal trout]

Wood hammer is probably better

[cyan smelt]

Yeah I'll stick with wood hammer

Need to figure out how to deal with hearthflame on miraidon teams

[real prairie]

Tornadus no?

since you are using it anyway

[cyan smelt]

Torn does not like miraidon

Ig Zama can deal with miraidon

[real prairie]

most Firepon counters dont, thats the point lol

[cyan smelt]

Yeah and that makes it hard to pivot with rilla because they have hearthflame

[real prairie]

Chien-Pao can do decent damage into Firepon if you need it to and hands around with sash

but not the most ideal solution

[cyan smelt]

Chien Pao Zama ig

[real prairie]

Tera Dragon zama will just eat both up

[cyan smelt]

Then I can just wide guard the dazzling gleam

[real prairie]

you outspeed anyway

as long as you go Jolly

[cyan smelt]

With chien pao?

[real prairie]

Yeah

[cyan smelt]

Yeah chien Pao is jolly

[real prairie]

worst case scenario its a speed tie, but then Miraidon isn't hitting as hard anyway

[cyan smelt]

I don't like speed ties

[real prairie]

most Miraidon don't run Timid

[cyan smelt]

Modest specs right

[real prairie]

thats the one

and then bulkier Miraidon like calm mind will be even slower

would recommend ice spinner to further ruin their day

but you are running Rilla so maybe not

[cyan smelt]

I really like icicle crash and can live with it occasionally missing

[real prairie]

fair, its a toss up. Accuracy + terrain control or Damage+Flinch chance

[balmy glen]

Only time Mirai should be timid is with the chi yu edition

[cyan smelt]

The reason I don't like ice spinner is because they just volt switch out like all the time

And chien pao is brought to sash anyway

[balmy glen]

Not missing is fire tho

[mighty stump]

^

I think Spinner is better value wise esp if you run sth like Amoong

and just in general it forces them to click VSwitch anyways

Cause staying in would be poor value

Spinner on any potential switch in would just also lower their offensive pressure immediately

[cyan smelt]

Yeah but I have rilla so it's anti synergy

[mighty stump]

why tho

Like you have full control of terrain and switches on your side

Real anti-synergy would be like running Indeedee on your full prio team

[cyan smelt]

I guess I have pivoting options with U turn on rilla

[cyan smelt]

has stall taken over the meta now?

[real prairie]

I thought i had him cornered.... that Tera at the end, i want to cry. https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2294125145

[cyan smelt]

i was watching that, that tera type is crazy

[real prairie]

you were watching my game? lol

[cyan smelt]

yes the tera ground kyurem

[real prairie]

haha what made you watch my game of all the ones 🤣

[cyan smelt]

lately i've just been watching games from low 1300s and up because i'm scared to ladder atm lol

[real prairie]

haha i was at 1600 y'day, don't play tired folks

[cyan smelt]

don't play tilted either

[real prairie]

absolutely not

[cyan smelt]

i should ladder again but i'm scared of running into wacky teras like that kyurem

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/go-for-it-you-can-do-it-encourage-do-it-gif-14006408

tbh i should really be on BO3 ladder not BO1

[cyan smelt]

i'm genuinely scared of the teams on the games i'm watching

[opal trout]

I love the Zamazenta team

[real prairie]

i wish i never showed it to you 🤣

[balmy glen]

lmao

[balmy glen]

Are u just running the variant they uploaded

[molten oasis]

https://x.com/magiapk/status/1886444047805358268?s=46

magia (@magiapk) on X

X · Feb 3, 2025, 3:58 PM

[opal trout]

No, this is my team https://pokepast.es/c6e1264744901770

[real prairie]

ive seen people running taunt over throat chop and its evil

[balmy glen]

no yawn dozo?

[real prairie]

completely negates opposition Amoongus

[real prairie]

you'd think "Big Blue Whale" would have kept it right?

[balmy glen]

mhm

[opal trout]

I went Urshifu instead

[balmy glen]

how does ur team deal with arubega 6 btw

I feel like the average arubega player kinda farms this

[opal trout]

I may try that eventually

[opal trout]

Let me find the team

[molten oasis]

arubega team?

[next stump]

worlds miraidon team

[opal trout]

Ogerpon H is a bit of a problem

Sword of ruin boosted body press does ko it I think

[molten oasis]

Oh ok

[opal trout]

I just got paired up against a miraidon team lol

[balmy glen]

depends

[opal trout]

I won

[balmy glen]

depends on the spread and even then its a roll

[opal trout]

I’m probably going to take a break from the ladder for a bit

[opal trout]

True

[cyan smelt]

Reading the team report from the world's winner and these guys are just on another level, and so young too, I'm realising I'm probably too old to get any good

[real prairie]

I'm absolutely stinking the gaf out today, gone back to my Regional team because my team bilding wasn't working and falling into the 1200s

ima take a few days off i think

[cyan smelt]

from what i've seen your problems stem from being choice locked

[real prairie]

the second im not im outsped and all my best MU become my worst

but yeah, being choice locked is a bitch

[opal trout]

Good idea

[real prairie]

glad you think im playing shit too 🤣

kidding, appreicate the support

[opal trout]

Have a rest today and maybe come back tomorrow or the day after tomorrow

[cyan smelt]

better than being too scared to play

[real prairie]

?

I might move to Zama team with Pelliper and shoehorn in Ludicolo just to make myself feel better but thats a problem for another day

i think playing a week with Zama might also help me understand its weaknesses

[cyan smelt]

i'm saying i'm too scared to play atm lol

[real prairie]

Oooo haha fair

[mighty stump]

Do it scared. Do it nervous. Do it anyways.

[cyan smelt]

Tomorrow I will, it's late ATM and I'm not playing while tired

[balmy glen]

I play while tired all the time unless it’s a major

Anyone in here planning on playing in the victory road tour this weekend

[real prairie]

Did not know it was a thing

Reg G showdown tourny?

[knotty mirage]

Is there a reason why so many people use ogerpon fire on the cart ladder at the moment ?

[real prairie]

its a good MU into Zama and Pao which are common atm

[cyan smelt]

Mini zacian

[opal trout]

Probably not

[left bobcat]

Probably not

[fluid fiber]

I have to build my team ING then start laddering

Feeling much better about it now

[next stump]

it’s a $10 entry in game tournament

usually victoryroad has good turnout, like 150-300 players

[balmy glen]

^

[balmy glen]

It’s just broken tbh

Fire grass for fwg core can just be filled on to so much different team compositions. Can tera to stay neutral if intimidated/get +1 and can instantly pressure most teams while having follow me

plus the obvious natural spore immunity with follow me

[knotty mirage]

I hate this man it makes me harder to play with caly ice i prefer back then where more people just use ogerpon water

[balmy glen]

While staying as an offensive mon

[real prairie]

can firepon OHKO Zama?

w/ tera ofc

[mint void]

@real prairieno

+1 252 Atk Tera-Fire Ogerpon-Hearthflame Ivy Cudgel (1.2x Mask Boost) vs. +1 92 HP / 156+ Def Zamazenta-Crowned: 156-188 (87.1 - 105%) -- 31.25% chance to OHKO

thats little bulk Zama numbers

[real prairie]

cheers

still good damage though

[mint void]

for sure

considering ivy cudgels hightened crit ratio

[real prairie]

anyone running dragon cheer + Ivy cudgel?

[mint void]

doesnt work sir

[real prairie]

no?

[mint void]

only works on dragons

[real prairie]

its +2 for dragons +1 for everything else

[mint void]

oh yeah

[tiny karma]

Move: Dragon Cheer

Raises the target's chance for a critical hit by 1 stage, or by 2 stages if the target is Dragon type. Fails if there is no ally adjacent to the user, or if the target already has this effect or the Focus Energy effect. Baton Pass can be used to transfer this effect to an ally.

Type

Dragon

Category

Status

Power

0

Accuracy

—

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Protect

Bypasses Protect-like moves.

Authentic

Bypasses substitute.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[mint void]

probs would be a funny idea if u could slap scoped lense on

green does

[fluid fiber]

When is this?

Also here's what I'm working with now https://pokepast.es/24d50482c5ce9eac
https://pokepast.es/3d538790fc1d3b67

[left bobcat]

Annie are you ok

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/ysgif-michael-jackson-mj-pop-gif-21093635

[chrome knot]

i founded shiny 0atk/0spe foongus raid ^-^

[dusty gate]

[real prairie]

is there any actual benefit to 0atk?

[chrome knot]

foul play becomes less of a threat & confusion damage does less

both niche scenarios but im taking this amoonguss to regional so id rather minmax dat

[real prairie]

very fair

just saw someone partner weezing with scarf poison jab Urshifu

[bold geode]

[chrome knot]

monke i got my hair done wanna see

(and do u want the foongus)

[dapper crag]

Hi does anyone know a good set up for a raid and pvp ceraledg

[solid frigate]

their sets are VERY different tho

[dapper crag]

Is there a way to mix them

[solid frigate]

not really imo

[dapper crag]

What move sets more versatile to use then

[solid frigate]

Tera Grass Clear Amulet Swords Dance with 2 STAB moves and Protect

[dapper crag]

What would you recend raid wise

I mean vitiman

[solid frigate]

Ceruledge in Raids just run Bulky Sets

But PVP it depends on Items

[dapper crag]

So atk and sp def

[chrome knot]

also

[left bobcat]

STAB

[chrome knot]

theres a raid chat for this

[dapper crag]

Where

[chrome knot]

uhhh i personally cannot see it but somewhere below here

is a category for raids across a few games

[dapper crag]

Oh ok thank you

[solid frigate]

#tera_raids

[real prairie]

this felt good: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2294290611

this felt even better: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2294292311

https://tenor.com/view/ludicolo-dancing-pokemon-shiny-ludicontent-gif-11623149

[bold geode]

I would love to see

(Also I don't want the Foongus)

[chrome knot]

me asf

[fluid fiber]

Guys I'm so sad

After extensive playtesting I think Flutter Mane IS the best choice

[chrome knot]

turns out

good mons are good :3

[fluid fiber]

See the thing is when I dropped it it wasn't the best mon, but since I've been changing the team around it's found it's way back around to filling the last slot

[stray girder]

whats the bulkiest relevant dragon type right now?

[solid frigate]

non restricted or Restricteds?

cuz AV Bolt is pretty tanky

if not Hisuian Goodra is fine

[foggy lodge]

Yeah Raging Bolt is a tank

125 HP

[bold geode]

Love it

[real prairie]

Giving queen's gambit vibes

[molten oasis]

I wish I was told they were redoing the roof of the house today

Cuz that is insanely annoying

[plain drum]

Been there

[spark bluff]

Egg moves are still a thing? Wanted to use my shiny incineroar but can’t get fake out and parting shot

[left bobcat]

🥚

[mint void]

u need mirror herb now

[plain drum]

Was gonna say they're even easier than before tbh

[spark bluff]

Oh okay that’s fine, everywhere online said you have to breed

[plain drum]

That was before SV

Now you can just have an empty slot in the picnic, and tada

[spark bluff]

It’s from a year ago though

Okay cool I’ll try that thank you

[plain drum]

Yup, just

1. Have empty slot(s) on Mon A
2. Give Mon A the Mirror Herb
3. Have a picnic with Mon A and Mon B that knows the move(s)

[left bobcat]

🥚

[chrome knot]

give incineroar mirror herb with munkidori in party as it learns both parting shot & fakeout, incin needs 2 open move slots then just open & close a picnic

[spark bluff]

Perfect ❤️

[mint void]

showdown is boring

[chrome knot]

this team should be a free win for you atp with how common it is

[mint void]

i havent played anything else till like rn

10 times in a row

finna played a zacian

choked that one twice

oger clutched

[torn parrot]

This team really struggles against shadow rider I’ll say that
Their only line of defense is roaring moon

[mint void]

since I play a pretty similar team its kinda stupid

[solid frigate]

Kyogre:

Lemme cook

[mint void]

kyogre isnt thatrough

urshifu and moon both live a spout

[chrome knot]

oh i know :3

@torn parrot would u still love me if this was the team i brought to a regional

[solid frigate]

if it beats at least half of the roster you have you team members to do shit against other

i'm just doing Koraidon shit rn

[torn parrot]

Yeah XD looks strong
Love the names

[chrome knot]

madra album

[mint void]

fair. but irrc u might have a chance to just KO kyogre with knock off+SS not sure tho...knock off does arnd 60 or so

[chrome knot]

incin works the mu

[stray girder]

could i guard swap my bastiodon and then baton pass those defenses to chansey?