competitive_discussion

[cyan smelt]

Sv would probably break if you had people sring for legendaries

[lofty tartan]

Huh?

You have no idea how much I soft reset my game.

It's not the game that's at fault for performance issues. It's the console.

[cyan smelt]

How come stuff like odyssey and Xenoblade can look and run great then

[lofty tartan]

Uhhh my roommate has Xenoblade and he's literally stating right now that it's notorious for running horrible on the switch, especially in handheld mode.

[cyan smelt]

And botw

[next stump]

4k players for TCG holy shit

[lofty tartan]

Listen, my man, the way that the relationship between software and hardware works is that hardware calls the execution of code. Hardware is 100% the determining factor in machine performance.

Not games. That's not how it has ever worked.

Source - I am a seasoned tech.

[cyan smelt]

Hopefully plza is optimised for switch 2 then

[lofty tartan]

If you overclock a switch - increase the voltage to RAM and CPU and GPU, then SV runs like an absolute creamy dream.

Switch 2 is backwards compatible and where PLZA is at the end of the Switch 1 life cycle, it's going to be fine. You'll be able to play SV on Switch 2 with better performance.

Switch 1 has FOUR GB OF RAM. This is substantially low.

Switch 2 appears to have 12 to 16GB

[cyan smelt]

How much does ps5 and Xbox have

[lofty tartan]

16gb on PS5

Same as Xbox Series X

But Xbox runs 10gb at different timings than the remaining 6gb

[trim hound]

only 4? Jesus Christ, which fuckwit let that slide?

[lofty tartan]

10gb is devoted to graphics on Xbox, and 6gb is directed to assorted computing functions.

[lofty tartan]

I'unno. Probably someone that makes more money than both of us.

Switch 1 is 8 years old. The standard has changed significantly

[cyan smelt]

Switch 2 gonna be competing with a bunch more handhelds this time

[trim hound]

Even 8 years ago 4gb of ram was considered shitty

No wonder people shit on Nintendo fans, we really do just settle for dogshit

[lofty tartan]

Eight years ago a typical standard was 4 to 8gb

Computers themselves vary dramatically. Which is why optimization of software on PCs is so difficult.

You've got people running literal potatoes and it's 2025

Like from 1985 to 2005 typical ram configurations only jumped from 512kb - 640kb, to 3 or 4gb

That's 20 years of technological advances.

[hard swift]

So I wanted to build a team around dusk necrozma but idk if it's good, could i get some feedback on things i need to change? https://pokepast.es/198e6c46161a9ef6

[bold geode]

Bros gonna scalp my cards no

[mint void]

@hard swift azu needs to go

[hard swift]

fair

[mint void]

Mouse probably to. Look at ogerpon and urshifu

[bold geode]

My thing is like
Don't run Necrozma Dusk Mane

[mint void]

Might not fit on the team but there are other options

[hard swift]

true but also i wanted to be different

i think it was a bad idea tbh

[bold geode]

Me changing one EV on my team

[lofty tartan]

I scalped all your pokes

[bold geode]

No my cards are bald now

[molten oasis]

i just ordered some packs that should come within the next few days

[patent marsh]

Yea tcg barrier of entry is a lot better than prior years un SV era

The league battle decks really makes it easy to come in, as well as the pack changes

I remember what a pain in the ass building my a ninetales deck was back in Sun n Moon

[foggy lodge]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025reggbo3-2286351247-g2uak7bir0q3nvgj7zk8jbuyjiyd87upw

How could have i won this?

[next stump]

what’s your urshifu set

[mint void]

seriously what should I run I cant pick

[molten oasis]

Not get got by decorate blursa lol

[torn parrot]

the farthest i got teh other day before i fell into a tilt climv and messed up my gxe

it almost counts but doesnt...

i wanted the 1800

):

[thorny beacon]

[foggy lodge]

Tera dark choice band

[craggy dagger]

i would love to see minh play vgc again lol

[next stump]

i dont think you really have a matchup there

especially since I dont think that team has many protects

[chrome knot]

Lunala 2-0 in USPL :3

[twin kindle]

https://tenor.com/view/cosmog-pokemon-pokemon-sun-and-moon-alola-legendary-pokemon-gif-25689709

[torn parrot]

if i win this next one...

im home free

LETS FUCKING GO

🐇

okay thats all i wanted to do lol

[thorny beacon]

I was resetting for a 0a calyrex but 3.0 HSR came out so I’ve been addicted

I need to get back to it eventually

[twin kindle]

Gambaaaadddoict

[craggy dagger]

oh true
whats the 3.0 experience like?

[chrome knot]

strength sap yippeeee

I used scarf bellossom LOL

[twin kindle]

Help

[thorny beacon]

Great introduction to the new world and characters, also it’s good that they allow you to get E6 RMC immediately unlike HMC but more time building characters yay

[thorny beacon]

I was also thinking of getting back into ZZZ since 1.5 is out and watching the insane luck Leo and Lacius got last night

[thorny beacon]

Leave my honse alone, it do no wrong

[chrome knot]

but its how you check for 0a

[thorny beacon]

It didn’t even get into top 8 for Birmingham, truly washed

Oh I just master ball it and check IVs after

Because I’m lazy but also the purple still fits

[torn parrot]

im bored

i wanna watch the regional

[chrome knot]

@bold geode look who lurking in my USPL match LMFAOOOO

[torn parrot]

flamecharge koraidon is scary

[bold geode]

Tryna be sneaky LMAO

[charred saddle]

i love amphoreus

its so much fun and i love the story and like the scenery

[spiral ridge]

i gotta play 3.0

yakuza has me in chokehold

[torn parrot]

use a substitute strength sap chandelure

[thorny beacon]

Yeah I should setup something like that so I can catch it in a specific ball

I thought emma was talking about using bellossom in an actual battle setting

[foggy lodge]

I have 3 protects and 2 of the mons that have it don't do too much into it

Anyways another person told me that Urshifu Gouging or Urshifu Groudon lead would have been better

I still have to get accostumed to the team

Urshifu Gouging was probably better because I keep pressure into Calyrex all the time and force a tera

Thing is not losing later to a Ursa Caly position

[charred saddle]

ill choke hold you

[twin kindle]

Good lucks

I’m either burnt out rn or persona rotted one of the two

[mint void]

Guys...do I run supports+kyogre?

[charred saddle]

Puna, i lost my 5050

but its early, 30 pulls in

[twin kindle]

Ooo :3

[charred saddle]

but then i hit astra yao in 20

i was about to cry

[twin kindle]

That’s very clutch :3 amazing wotk

[spiral ridge]

?

[next stump]

like the roaring moon team?

[charred saddle]

then lacius went to 77, losing 5050
but then the next 10 pull gets him 2 astra yao HAHA

[spiral ridge]

I saw that ss lol

[charred saddle]

sorry

[mint void]

Idk. Like the Snail bs team

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/ryo-ryo-yamada-bocchi-bocchi-the-rock-bocchi-the-rock-gif-gif-27152609

[thorny beacon]

he didn't lose the 50/50 no? he straight up won and got 2 in 10

[charred saddle]

i mean theres a kyogre grimm + wochien team before

[twin kindle]

I still have so many old ss’s of you threat

[charred saddle]

iirc it was AV kyogre

[spiral ridge]

I ran this team it was fun

[charred saddle]

oh i thought he lost 5050, thats just crazy luck then

[spiral ridge]

You have like infinite ammo on me I have to treat you well

[charred saddle]

think the wochien AV kyogre grimm team should be in repository

[mint void]

Thats abt what Im refering to

[twin kindle]

“Hot Ham”

[spiral ridge]

I should have it’s rental code still

[spiral ridge]

That one isn’t that bad

[charred saddle]

but tbf, rn, you miught want to scrap AV kyogre and maybe just go calm mind yourself

but idk

never tried that

[mint void]

Was thinking CC + CM aince u just lose if someone snarls ir ass with 3 sup mons in the team

[bold geode]

@charred saddle waddup bitch

[mint void]

Or Lefties

[spiral ridge]

Birch

Mine autocorrected the other way 😭😭

I swear too much lol

[charred saddle]

https://pokepast.es/76ba5a02fdea9eaf

[twin kindle]

[spiral ridge]

You have MUCH worse

[twin kindle]

Okay baby puncher

[untold urchin]

oh thats why Monke’s a jpeg

yall are a different level of strange

[spiral ridge]

I’ll stand proud by this one

[untold urchin]

ANYWAYS I CAME HERE BECAUSE @bold geode

[bold geode]

Oh yeah my bad bro I was practicing

I HAD TO GET REPS ON SHORK BRO

[untold urchin]

I was gonna ask when we start because I procrastinated eating until now

[charred saddle]

im the holy xsl, made by the great michael mouse

[bold geode]

Bitch I just invited you

[untold urchin]

Im eating

[bold geode]

Are you eating now?

Ah I see

[spiral ridge]

Raika Goodluck monkey sucks

[untold urchin]

Do I rush eating or do I not need to

[bold geode]

Well lmk when you're done, I'll just be doing quick game for reps

[spiral ridge]

[spiral ridge]

YOU CAN RUSH?

[bold geode]

Take your time
No rush

[untold urchin]

Scotty shut the fuck up I CAN EAT FAST IF I WANT TO

[spiral ridge]

Lies

[charred saddle]

i can rush you up

[spiral ridge]

Who replaced you

[charred saddle]

[bold geode]

I'll be in quick play so ping me when ready

[untold urchin]

This is the last mistake you’ll ever make

[spiral ridge]

Next you’re gonna say you’re mentally well

[spiral ridge]

Yeah it really is cus it’ll last his whole life

[untold urchin]

Mentally better than I was

[spiral ridge]

That’s good :)

[spiral ridge]

Have a blast

[bold geode]

Nuh Uh

[charred saddle]

on you?

[bold geode]

I'm mentally sane
Insta locks Moon Knight

[spiral ridge]

@twin kindle kill him

[untold urchin]

No that’s a reasonable mentally okay choice

[charred saddle]

[twin kindle]

Ur a grown ass man get him yourself 🙄

[untold urchin]

also I already know, we’ve played comp before

[charred saddle]

TELL HIM PUNA

[spiral ridge]

I’m literally not I’m not 18

[foggy lodge]

Exactly

Grown ass men

[untold urchin]

Mentally you’re more of a grown ass man than me tho

[mint void]

Thx

[gentle crag]

lnk1603 has given 1 Gen Rep to abused1

[spiral ridge]

YOURE GROWN take care of your niño

[foggy lodge]

Where's your wife

[twin kindle]

Okay then 🙄 wittlele bebee scotwee

I’ll deal with him for you

[twin kindle]

I’m going to…

[spiral ridge]

…Yknow if it takes care of Leo I can bare with this

[twin kindle]

[twin kindle]

[spiral ridge]

Wha

That’s not murder..

[twin kindle]

Kill them with kindness 🥺

[charred saddle]

@spiral ridge AWWEEEE WITTLELE BEBEEE SCOTWEEEE

[spiral ridge]

No kill with hammers he keeps cat calling me

[charred saddle]

what

i literally just meowed

[spiral ridge]

Nuh uh

[twin kindle]

Okie boxing match I’ll be the goalie person

Referee

[spiral ridge]

I’m gonna take a guess that we are not same weight class 😭

[untold urchin]

I never thought of you as a goalie

[charred saddle]

im literally like half his size

[dapper crag]

i'm still qouting ribombee for meta

[spiral ridge]

Little babyy

[charred saddle]

mother fuck

[twin kindle]

If the Paul guy could fight a grandpa yall can fight

[untold urchin]

Guys I need a second opinion on something Monke said the other day

[charred saddle]

what?

[dapper crag]

https://tenor.com/view/canary-princess-beapercolator-rimbombee-ribombee-cute-pokemon-cute-gif-17940279261303584667

[untold urchin]

Are either of the upcoming tera raid paradox mons good at all in vgc

[twin kindle]

Upcoming?

[spiral ridge]

What are they?

[untold urchin]

Iron bundle and scream tail

[charred saddle]

id fight mike tyson.

ill ||lose tho||

[spiral ridge]

Alright ima start just blind swinging then

[charred saddle]

bundle

[twin kindle]

Maybe in formats with less power level

[charred saddle]

not so much

[spiral ridge]

Bundle had early reg usage

[twin kindle]

Not rn though

[charred saddle]

and the other is scream tail ye?

[spiral ridge]

Scream was for earlier reg perish trap

[charred saddle]

scream tail does have some quite interesting use, its quite bulky and speedy

does get encore and TR iirc?

[spiral ridge]

I just know it from Wolfey team with perish song

[tiny karma]

Scream Tail's moveset:

Physical Moves

Bite, Body Slam, Crunch, Dig, Double-Edge, Drain Punch, Facade, Fire Fang, Fire Punch, Fling, Giga Impact, Gyro Ball, Ice Fang, Ice Punch, Play Rough, Pound, Psychic Fangs, Rock Tomb, Stomping Tantrum, Take Down, Thunder Fang, Thunder Punch, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Blizzard, Boomburst, Dazzling Gleam, Expanding Force, Fire Blast, Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Grass Knot, Hyper Beam, Hyper Voice, Ice Beam, Misty Explosion, Psybeam, Psychic, Psychic Noise, Psyshock, Stored Power, Tera Blast, Thunder, Thunderbolt, Uproar, Water Pulse

Status Moves

Amnesia, Baton Pass, Bulk Up, Calm Mind, Disable, Encore, Endure, Fake Tears, Helping Hand, Howl, Imprison, Light Screen, Metronome, Misty Terrain, Noble Roar, Perish Song, Protect, Psych Up, Psychic Terrain, Rain Dance, Reflect, Rest, Roar, Sandstorm, Scary Face, Sing, Sleep Talk, Snowscape, Stealth Rock, Substitute, Sunny Day, Thunder Wave, Trick, Trick Room, Wish

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Scream Tail.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[spiral ridge]

It does

[twin kindle]

Yeah but it does zilch outside of support

[charred saddle]

https://pokepast.es/79717968bab8fd0d

this is like one examlpe

https://pokepast.es/e85cbd3f05abdc3e

this too

so basically its just like, fast speedy encore/disabler

[spiral ridge]

Rock tomb..

[charred saddle]

locking 1 slot

rock tomb makes it unable to switch i think

[spiral ridge]

Ohh

[charred saddle]

then encore and disable lel

[spiral ridge]

Ic

[cyan smelt]

No rock tomb just lowers speed

[tiny karma]

Move: Rock Tomb

Has a 100% chance to lower the target's Speed by 1 stage.

Type

Rock

Category

Physical

Power

60

Accuracy

95

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[charred saddle]

oh right right i think i got it mixed up with other move

[spiral ridge]

Leo you supposed to be nerd >:(

[charred saddle]

fuck off, im a nerd for common stuff

this isnt it

[twin kindle]

Sand tomb maybe idk

[tiny karma]

Move: Sand Tomb

Prevents the target from switching for four or five turns (seven turns if the user is holding Grip Claw). Causes damage to the target equal to 1/8 of its maximum HP (1/6 if the user is holding Binding Band), rounded down, at the end of each turn during effect. The target can still switch out if it is holding Shed Shell or uses Baton Pass, Flip Turn, Parting Shot, Shed Tail, Teleport, U-turn, or Volt Switch. The effect ends if either the user or the target leaves the field, or if the target uses Mortal Spin, Rapid Spin, or Substitute successfully. This effect is not stackable or reset by using this or another binding move.

Type

Ground

Category

Physical

Power

35

Accuracy

85

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[charred saddle]

ah ye ye ur right

[untold urchin]

Hm I see so

Pretty useless, rolling for IVs useless, only shiny raids good

[charred saddle]

this is the one that tinglu uses

[cyan smelt]

Does U turn work with trapping moves

[charred saddle]

iirc you cant use it

lemme check actually

[twin kindle]

You can

It does work

Same with shadow tag

[charred saddle]

ooh interesting

[cyan smelt]

And ig parting shot would still work as well

[charred saddle]

so i think flipturn and teleport also works similarly

[spiral ridge]

Yeah :((

My gothi to stop palafin didn’t work at all

Flip turn just let it out for free

Was a shame

[torn parrot]

im so bored

[spiral ridge]

Play league

[charred saddle]

unbored urself

[torn parrot]

oh god

[charred saddle]

jokes aside idk read manga? kek

[torn parrot]

good idea

[spiral ridge]

You sounded excited when I said it before

[spiral ridge]

Read way of the house husband it’s funny :3

[torn parrot]

i dont like regular league

[charred saddle]

i read that

[torn parrot]

i loved swarm tho...

[charred saddle]

[spiral ridge]

Swarm?

ARAM?

[torn parrot]

no it was a temporary gamemode it was so damn good

[spiral ridge]

Ohh?

[torn parrot]

it was like a bullet hell thing

[spiral ridge]

OHHHHH YEAH YEAH

Ik it

[torn parrot]

everyone was addicted

i hope they bring it back

[spiral ridge]

You should try arena when it’s back
Everyone gets fuckint HOOKED

[torn parrot]

oh iv played that before

[spiral ridge]

YAH

[torn parrot]

its kinda fun to play with my sister

[spiral ridge]

nice :)

[torn parrot]

but

i really need to stop spamming tristana

[spiral ridge]

I just play the game cus fondness and can be fun to cackle my ass off to

[spiral ridge]

Try jhin. Slow transition

He do biggg number :3

I’ve uh

[twin kindle]

Yall scare me

[spiral ridge]

Become an e girl support lately in ranked..

I played lulu

[torn parrot]

why u scared

[charred saddle]

[twin kindle]

NOT RLLYY

Yall are little bun buns C:3

[twin kindle]

There’s a char called Lulu?

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/lulu-cute-gif-25973509

Don’t be fooled she’s a demon to face and in lore

[chrome knot]

@twin kindle lululululululu

[twin kindle]

Where’s the pink

[torn parrot]

i see tristana

[spiral ridge]

Skins

[somber carbon]

Can anyone battle me on link trade? No legends please

[spiral ridge]

Many skins

[twin kindle]

Haii emmiebear

[untold urchin]

@charred saddle Scotty called me a quag

[charred saddle]

quag

[spiral ridge]

You called yourself that

[untold urchin]

[spiral ridge]

Why’s mine tiny

[charred saddle]

aweee weettelleee tinyy boyyyyy awweeee

[chrome knot]

haaaiiii

[spiral ridge]

I will step on you as you stand you 4’ goblin of malice

[torn parrot]

wait

[chrome knot]

mayamaya

[charred saddle]

[torn parrot]

why do i have the halloween badge

[spiral ridge]

You chose to keep it

[torn parrot]

i totally forgot it was there

[spiral ridge]

lol

Whatcha think you’ll read btw?

[chrome knot]

a

there we go

[spiral ridge]

Mm?

[torn parrot]

hiya

[chrome knot]

haya maya

hru bean

[torn parrot]

been doing classes this week in my last semester of college

[chrome knot]

oahhh

[torn parrot]

how about u?

[chrome knot]

i gooodddd i had uspl today

other than that just hung out iwth friendsies

[twin kindle]

Hola cuteeeeiee

How’s the Lunala going

[chrome knot]

good!

[left bobcat]

Toad

[twin kindle]

YAYAA

[mint void]

Cba. Imma never play CTS again. No point. U cant improve with this wild shit everyone has.

Bo3 it is until the end of GC

[torn parrot]

yeah the b03 ladder is better for practice and improvement overall

best of 1 cts is more volatile but allows for more fun silly stuff

[left bobcat]

Woah

[untold urchin]

I need someone smart

[next stump]

looking for someone to run some calyrex-ice mirrors tomorrow, if you’re down feel free to DM

[foggy lodge]

Me obviously!

wait no bad timing

Sorry dillon i don't play Caly Ice😔

[bold geode]

Wha

[untold urchin]

I said someone smart

[craggy dagger]

sup

-# do i qualify-

[untold urchin]

You’re Asian so automatically yes

[bold geode]

Wow racist Raika in comp chat

[untold urchin]

This is exactly why I said that

[craggy dagger]

[bold geode]

Comp chat bringing out Raika racism smfh

[untold urchin]

anyways it’s currently reg G right

[bold geode]

Yes

[untold urchin]

What is the likelihood someone stupid like me who’s never played vgc before can get to master ball using a team with miraidon and alolan raichu on it

[bold geode]

Definitely not zero

[spiral ridge]

Hi
I did it with below 50% WR
It’s not hard

[torn parrot]

🐇

[spiral ridge]

Just play a bunch

[bold geode]

I'd say eeeeeeeeeeeeesshhhhhhh
At least 50% ?

[spiral ridge]

Not even

[untold urchin]

says the one who’s played vgc since forever ago

[spiral ridge]

What?

No im talking when i started in reg G

[bold geode]

Raika are you still eating

[untold urchin]

You started before reg g didnt you

[spiral ridge]

With my kyogre chien team

[balmy glen]

Pretty easy

[spiral ridge]

Nope

I started in G dumbie

[balmy glen]

Masterball is like barely anything tbh

[spiral ridge]

You watched me 😭

[untold urchin]

Well if someone who shares a first name with Keanu Reeves says it’s easy then I trust that

[torn parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/fearless-year-of-shadow-year-of-shadow-shadow-the-hedgehog-sonic-movie-3-sonic-movie-3-shadow-gif-2199999771942619526

[untold urchin]

And you remember I have terrible memory

[chrome knot]

@balmy glen guess what

[untold urchin]

ow the edge

[bold geode]

Raika are you eating still

[untold urchin]

Scotty would be able to answer that for you

[bold geode]

@spiral ridge

[spiral ridge]

He’s 10% done at most

[mint void]

Time?

[bold geode]

Huh

[spiral ridge]

Only been like a hour

[untold urchin]

thanks

[gentle crag]

bizraika has given 1 Gen Rep to scottyboi7422

[spiral ridge]

Np :)

[bold geode]

How fucking slow do you eat?

[spiral ridge]

VERY

[untold urchin]

the only part about me that Scotty remembers is I eat like a sloth

[bold geode]

Are you taking a shit after every bite bro tf you doing

[spiral ridge]

Hey that’s not true

[twin kindle]

There’s an inside joke with my cousin that he eats a thanksgiving feast whenever he “brb im gonna eat rq”

[untold urchin]

bruh no lmao

[balmy glen]

Chicken butt?

[untold urchin]

I eat way faster when I dont have my phone

Unfortunately for you, I have my phone

[bold geode]

Wtf are you even eating

[mint void]

Im a rando that doesn't really compete outside of online stuff and my goal is usually like top 2k on cart once per reg. Like Masterball is free

[chrome knot]

ohhh right see that was my line,,,,

[untold urchin]

Chicken nuggets but it took 40 minutes to get them crispy in the air fryer

[mighty stump]

yo mama

[untold urchin]

When I said I was eating, I meant I just put food in the air fryer…

[bold geode]

Does your air fryer run off a fucking hamster wheel?

[balmy glen]

Ye I got to masterball in this tier with LC mons and PP stall cosmoem so lul

long grind but it was worth

[bold geode]

Tofu I'm running Infernape for GC

[balmy glen]

mostly rage quits

[untold urchin]

No it runs on a Monke wheel now GET RUNNING

[mighty stump]

Oh yeah GC

[mint void]

Meh thats boring tho

[bold geode]

Yeah Tofu with Scarf and Tera Ghost I can OHKO Shadow Rider LMAO

[balmy glen]

Not really

[mighty stump]

Neat

[balmy glen]

you watch others suffer from pp stall

[torn parrot]

what the hell is the team

[mint void]

Not for u but for the other one

[balmy glen]

I sent it in here before

[bold geode]

I say as I play Marvel Rivals

[mighty stump]

@balmy glen Guess what I’m doing today

Playing mons

[torn parrot]

ima check

[mint void]

https://pokepast.es/e9decfd1b5915dec I made it to MB with this team so usong the "best" restricted should far decent.

[bold geode]

Brainrot scrolling probably

[untold urchin]

well you do remember my name at least

[mint void]

Thats a reg H team I didnt get to use ij reg H so I reused it.

[untold urchin]

play randbats instead

[spiral ridge]

…
Okay names are my worst thing

You told me your name??

[untold urchin]

My internet name

[torn parrot]

https://pokepast.es/91f0ed6e3a3293e2

i found that shit

[untold urchin]

[spiral ridge]

Oh

It’s rake

[untold urchin]

Nvm you were right names are your worst thing

[spiral ridge]

@rancid crane

FUCK WRONG ONE IM SO SORRY

[mint void]

Idk why the Hydreigon is that fast

[spiral ridge]

@craggy dagger

[untold urchin]

The cosmoem’s name is perfect

[spiral ridge]

I have no idea who I pinged im so sorry

[untold urchin]

야옹

[spiral ridge]

[mint void]

He has a big one

[spiral ridge]

ㅠㅠ

[untold urchin]

youve no idea what i said do you

[spiral ridge]

Latte?

[mighty stump]

What are you doing in comp Minka 👁️

[untold urchin]

no that means meow

[spiral ridge]

Minka??

[untold urchin]

My name is literally Meow Meow

[craggy dagger]

likely

[spiral ridge]

Oh
lol

[spiral ridge]

Where’d you get nitro outta no where wtf-

What did I put though raika

[untold urchin]

In that case I’m gonna dig out that random team you had made months and months ago and use it and try to get there

[untold urchin]

Why you asking me ask the Korean who taught me Korean

[spiral ridge]

Wha

[untold urchin]

나는 바보야

[spiral ridge]

That sentence made -1 sense to read

[untold urchin]

Nova taught me the only Korean I know

[spiral ridge]

Bro can’t translate what I wrote

[spiral ridge]

Oh lol
Well yeah she’ll know what I put
She taught me it

[untold urchin]

She taught me how to say hello, meow, and I’m stupid

There’s probably more but those 3 are the only ones I remember how to type

[spiral ridge]

I just put a crying face lol

ㅠㅠ

[untold urchin]

I thought those were two tables

[twin kindle]

Chiyu/10

[spiral ridge]

Pfttt

[untold urchin]

Time to make that one person’s about me come true

Whoever was the one with the funny chi yu calc in their about me

[spiral ridge]

That’s
Many people

[untold urchin]

Lacius

[balmy glen]

anyone got that groudon jumpluff paste

[ivory zodiac]

Am I allowed to post poke pastes here

[twin kindle]

Yuas

[untold urchin]

Anyways idk why Im still here

[lofty tartan]

👀

[ivory zodiac]

What’s this replying to

[lofty tartan]

You're allowed to, Addict

[torn parrot]

this one? https://pokepast.es/03bc3abaf790c465

[foggy lodge]

With evs?

[ivory zodiac]

Pog

[balmy glen]

ye but i need evs lul

[foggy lodge]

oh

[balmy glen]

too lazy to ev train but ig i gotta do it for san antonio prep

[ivory zodiac]

Ok ima grab this team I build today out of boredom

[foggy lodge]

Keanu do you have tips for chinese sun

I think that's how its called

[balmy glen]

piloting it or facing it

[foggy lodge]

Piloting

[ivory zodiac]

https://pokepast.es/73de5fa23ce13a52 this was fun to build though I haven’t played a single game with it yet and idk how good it could be

[balmy glen]

depends what ur facing. what mu are u struggling with

its a pretty linear team tho

[foggy lodge]

Caly Ice hard TR

[ivory zodiac]

I’m like the worst VGC player ever I’m so much more familiar with DOU

Fun fact this was originally a DUU team

Then I adapted it into VGC

[bold geode]

Yeah finished eating so we can play

[untold urchin]

Eating? Who? You?

but no yes I am done

[mighty stump]

weegeecee?

[twin kindle]

Ponke

[bold geode]

It weegeecee time?

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[bold geode]

Gimme minute and we can

Aight we good

@mighty stump I'm in camp whenever

[left bobcat]

I pull uppppp

[torn parrot]

i pull down

[wispy spade]

[left bobcat]

Welp chat this is it 😔

I gotta go to skewl tomorrow

Nighty night chat

[mighty stump]

@balmy glen signed up to NPAA

[balmy glen]

noice

ill add u to my groups interest list

not a lot of people wanna join our team cuz we're "new managers" in the league

its wtvr tho

the other teams dont have a worlds top cut player passing them a million teams so gaming

[mighty stump]

I just wanna ball and win bro

Lol

[balmy glen]

goat

theres not a lot of people in there i wanna really work with so ill definitely try n get u

I decided to manage last second cuz i wanted to find people I can work with while playing in NPA and help them improve and be new test buddies lmao

[mighty stump]

Well I'm always looking to improve/gather new intel

[balmy glen]

only thing thats annoying is the other managers know u dont they lol

would be cool to get the comp discussion trio of you,me,dillon tho

[mighty stump]

Well some do

Aside from my blog I'm pretty much offbeat

And my last managers were Carney and DutchTurtle

And Tsuyu

Before that it was Nino

[twin kindle]

[cyan smelt]

When will we be able to practice against ai opponents

[knotty mirage]

Isn't that kind of thing already exist you know trainer in blueberry academy

[cyan smelt]

Not really, you can't battle them over and over, I'm talking about like vgc ai you can practice against

[mighty stump]

Idk what AI would be able to give you that laddering wont

[cyan smelt]

if you don't want people to leak your team

[mighty stump]

I suppose but I don’t think laddering on an alt will leak a signficant anount

[torn parrot]

someone needs to build pokemon playing ai

it would work too

[strange fjord]

i wonder how hard it would be to make an AI that is actually good at VGC placing consistent at top 500+ with any decent team

[torn parrot]

i bet you ai nowawadays can do it

ai can mimick human behavior

i bet it can learn to even predict based on experience

[chrome knot]

whatthefrick!!

[strange fjord]

api usage cost gonna kill my wallet for battles lmao

idk, ill try and set something up and see if chat GPT can battle and win some other day.

I asked chat gpt to suggest improvements on my team. Guess I gotta change my Terapagos' Tera Type to be optimal lmao

Something tells me chat's not winning worlds any time soon.

[torn parrot]

Lol it’s okay it was just a fun thought don’t waste money on it

[torn parrot]

Yeah why isn’t your teragaos tera steel or water pizza 🫵😠

Lmao

[strange fjord]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/579474912092094505/1063141156126466128/ThatsTrue-6.gif

[chrome knot]

steel wouldn’t even change anything its main weakness is being shit into urshifu & zamazenta or like any fighting type

[lofty tartan]

AI can loosely mimic human behavior but is an extremely poor substitute for it

Like ChatGPT still gets things constantly wrong that a human with basic observational skills just wouldn't

[real prairie]

Morning folks, seems like a lot of chat last night, i miss anything exciting?

[zinc totem]

when using ogerpon rock version max atk max speed is best evs or should i go for more bulkier spread?

[solid frigate]

Max Max Min is better for Rock Pon

to use Sturdy

Wellspring is mostly Bulk Set

Hearthflame can go either depending on the role

[cyan smelt]

It feels good to be playing vgc again, I feel like I'm considering my moves more carefully now and being a bit more cautious

[zinc totem]

yeah was thinking that

[cyan smelt]

Think I like having sucker punch on chien pao

[zinc totem]

its necessity unless you go crunch route

sucker punch gets a lot of value

[cyan smelt]

I like pressuring cir in tr and I think it'll be good for forcing a tera out of csr

[real prairie]

personally, its a requirement

helping hand sucker punch rinces fast flutter which is nice to negate the speed drops

im debating dropping sacred sword for brick break though, Lots of screen setting going on

[cyan smelt]

i have throat chop, sucker and icicle crash

[real prairie]

i prefer ice spinner, if i end up in a situation where i know TR is going up next turn I have at least disabled psychic terrain turn 1 to ensure i can use suckerpunch under TR

[cyan smelt]

i just have rilla in the back

[real prairie]

Also stops rilla priority spam + clears electric terrain

[cyan smelt]

i don't want to clear my own terrain

[real prairie]

yeah, if you are running your own terrain thats fair

brick break or psychic fangs 🤔

psychic fangs might be nice for opposition fighting types

[cyan smelt]

brick break because grimmsnarl isn't immune to it

i suppose you can use it on the partner

[real prairie]

i dont need to hit grimm to break the screens

[cyan smelt]

i gotta watch out for scarf chi yu

[mighty stump]

TC > Crunch

[solid frigate]

Just trust

throat Chop Sucker Punch is the way

[heady onyx]

what is good pokemon in reg g with the restricted I like Terapagos the turtle

[zinc totem]

completely forgot throat chop haha that it can learn 🤣

[solid frigate]

Terapagos is good

[heady onyx]

yes I know but what is good with it

so many options

I'm lost

[solid frigate]

you can try Incin Rilla Fake out Cycle on CM Pagos

Or Flutter Chi Yu specs

Urshifu is also good with it since it beats Mirrors

[heady onyx]

oh yes the bear

I found one on my switch nice

[solid frigate]

im currently Not at home so I can’t really show the teams that i used

[cyan smelt]

you need a way to deal with miraidon as well

[solid frigate]

the Monke:

[cyan smelt]

oh yeah

[heady onyx]

yeah the grass ground helps

[solid frigate]

Pure Grass but High Horsepower is alr

[cyan smelt]

but iron hands drain punch still hurts

[heady onyx]

I like the bear and rillaboom

[solid frigate]

i think Hands in Pagos Team is Dependent on if you run Rilla

[cyan smelt]

no i'm saying hands on mirai teams hurts

[heady onyx]

landorus can deal with miraidon ?

[solid frigate]

Yeah

[heady onyx]

interesting lando does something nice again

[solid frigate]

My Tera Water Iron Hands On His way to beat CIR

[heady onyx]

so Lando Terapagos Urshi (water i guess) Rillaboom maybe Flutter Mane I like it it's so fast

then I need a Steel or a Fire

[cyan smelt]

incin is always reliable

[solid frigate]

yeah its alright enough to test imo

[solid frigate]

Or Chi Yu if you want

[heady onyx]

oh Heatran

[cyan smelt]

chi yu has good synergy with flutter

[heady onyx]

it's Steel and Fire

[solid frigate]

wouldn’t really Recommend Heatran on Terapagos Teams

[cyan smelt]

heatran gets dunked on by hearthflame and hands

[solid frigate]

Incin has Far better Utility Anyways

[heady onyx]

oh really

[solid frigate]

its one of The Best in Slot on Terapagos Teams as well,I tried it on multiple Pagos Teams

[heady onyx]

i ued heatran earlier gen 9 in vgc it was good

[solid frigate]

this is Reg G so the meta shift is different

[heady onyx]

so Steel is no longer good ?

[cyan smelt]

chi yu flutter has good synergy and chi yu lowers sp def for terapagos

[heady onyx]

Wolfey says Steel and Dragon are a core when teambuilding

maybe a Dragon Fire ? what about past Entei ?

[solid frigate]

not really its just not that much option that does not get fucked by Urshifu or Hearthflame

[solid frigate]

thats better for Koraidon Teams

[heady onyx]

they cover my weaknesses very good

maybe Ogerpon

the Fire one would work too

[cyan smelt]

it's not about covering every weakness though, it's about covering for common threats

[solid frigate]

Rock Pon Feels More Solid if you have A Fire Type

[heady onyx]

no rock type

[solid frigate]

if not then Hearthflame is better against Amogus

[heady onyx]

i will go check the weakness chart for my team

i think I have 7 mons but I need to choose 5

for terapagos

[solid frigate]

the team i run right now is Lefties Calm Mind Terapagos

With Chi Yu as Enabler and Fire Type,Urshifu,Ogerpon Rock,Raging Bolt and Flutter Mane

[heady onyx]

ty

[next stump]

you’re getting the 3rd part of that defensive triangle

fairy

steel/dragon/fairy and water/fire/grass

[solid frigate]

i just dont have a thought on Steel

cuz my restricted already suck on against Fighting Types

[cyan smelt]

i'm seeing pawmot a lot in these games i'm watching

[solid frigate]

+1 Terapagos should OHKO Most Urshifu if not all of them that does not have Sash

[cyan smelt]

there are basically no steel types around because of strong fighting, fire and ground types

[heady onyx]

gholdengo is no good too ?

[cyan smelt]

nope

[heady onyx]

what

[cyan smelt]

slower than most restricteds, incin is everywhere and miraidon destroys it

so does hearthflame

[real prairie]

the only real steel type in the format is Zamazenta

[cyan smelt]

rarely spotted zacian

[real prairie]

Zamazenta Body Press also deters other steel types

[cyan smelt]

and dark types

except scarf chi yu

[real prairie]

I can see Zamazenta getting a speed nerf next gen

[cyan smelt]

i hope they nerf the horses and leave zama alone

[real prairie]

I don't really think the horses are broken

[cyan smelt]

120/130 bp spread move with no drawbacks? yeah not broken at all

[tiny karma]

Move: Astral Barrage

No additional effect.

Type

Ghost

Category

Special

Power

120

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

5 (8)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Does not make contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[real prairie]

shit it is 120 lol

yeah that should probably be 100

[cyan smelt]

i could swear it was 130

oh right glacial lance used to be 130

[real prairie]

but the mons themselves stat wise are okay

those moves need nerfing, fine

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 898: Calyrex-Ice

Types

Psychic/Ice

Abilities

As One (Glastrier)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/165/150/85/130/50

Total

680

Base Species

Calyrex

Sableye version 4.28.1

[charred saddle]

idk how u can say that is fine

[cyan smelt]

165 sp attack and 150 speed is broken

and caly i got insane bulk

[charred saddle]

100 hp 150 def 130 spD is fuckinng bulky

they basically just took most of the speed and "oh hehe, lets put it to other stats weee"

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 898: Calyrex-Shadow

Types

Psychic/Ghost

Abilities

As One (Spectrier)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

100/85/80/165/100/150

Total

680

Base Species

Calyrex

Sableye version 4.28.1

[charred saddle]

ngl i feel shadow is kinda okayish, compared to CIR just because it doesnt have the same bulk as CIR

[real prairie]

yeah IDK, i just don't really struggle with the horses i guess. I hate the dog

[charred saddle]

zama feels annoying because it has the innate +1

[cyan smelt]

that's what low kick is for

[charred saddle]

if you think about it, just swapping once and boom its a kinda normal ass legendary

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 889: Zamazenta-Crowned

Types

Fighting/Steel

Abilities

Dauntless Shield

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/120/140/80/140/128

Total

700

Base Species

Zamazenta

Sableye version 4.28.1

[real prairie]

Shadow is squishy, Ice is slow, the dog is fast and tanky and its the fact it specifically needs a SpAtk to kill it and its weaknesses are all slower than it

[charred saddle]

nvm

92 140 140 bulk is ass

on top of that, +1

[real prairie]

bare in mind it gets +1 to its Def straight off the bat

so 210 before EV investment

[charred saddle]

zama has the edge of +1 bulk (which translates to dmg, thanks body press)

damn i never thought zama had 140 spD

[real prairie]

its because its not usually invested in

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 888: Zacian-Crowned

Types

Fairy/Steel

Abilities

Intrepid Sword

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

92/150/115/80/115/148

Total

700

Base Species

Zacian

Sableye version 4.28.1

[charred saddle]

its not invested in since its tanky enough i suppose

damn zacian for some reason feels okay

[real prairie]

its because it needs Atk investment for heavy slam

[charred saddle]

i mean for swsh its annoying bcause of bblade tho

hmm ye

[cyan smelt]

iron hands is so bulky

[charred saddle]

with AV yeah

[real prairie]

another mon i don't mind being bulky, its slow but also not slow enough that in TR you can't beat it with things like Amoongus etc

[cyan smelt]

it's hariyama but good

[charred saddle]

also its not like the spD is anything good like CIR or zama does

[tiny karma]

Pokémon No. 591: Amoonguss

Types

Grass/Poison

Abilities

Effect Spore, Regenerator (Hidden)

HP/Atk/Def/SpA/SpD/Spe

114/85/70/85/80/30

Total

464

Sableye version 4.28.1

[charred saddle]

so killing it with spD is okayish most of the times

but its not restricteds so

comparing restricted to normal mons is kinda crazy

[cyan smelt]

but it's miraidon's best bud

[charred saddle]

ehh idk

both are weak to ground and lando is quite nice to it

[lofty tartan]

That's not how base stats vs stat modifiers work. It's 176 (Zama defense at level 50) x 1.5 = 264

[cyan smelt]

how much does quark drive boost hands' attack

[real prairie]

my bad, thought that was lv 50

[real prairie]

1.3x

[real prairie]

also 176 is assuming Impish

[mighty stump]

You're always Impish

[real prairie]

yeah absolutely

but then you always have Def investment too

[lofty tartan]

Semantics. The point is that when you consider stat modifiers, ignore base stat value because that's not the stat that it's affecting.

[real prairie]

we were talking base numbers

[lofty tartan]

And you said that his defense is 210 because +1 before EVs, and that's wrong because your formula is wrong lol.

[real prairie]

in any regards, 252+ +1 Zamazenta maxes out at 316.5 def

[lofty tartan]

The +1 never affects base stat totals. It affects actual values.

[mighty stump]

Round down.

[real prairie]

yeah i was wrong, not arguing that

[real prairie]

ofc

316 def is wild, without making a move

[charred saddle]

and some people run ID in it KEK

[cyan smelt]

wasted moveslot

[charred saddle]

not really, if you used it at the double protect, or better leads
its insanely huge

ik WG has an insane utilities too, not saying its better

just that i do know some scenario where "ah, ID is fuckingnice here"

[mighty stump]

Ngl I don't see the value in ID anymore since thats a turn you can just spend clicking Body Press anyways

[real prairie]

was curious, no one is ever going to use it but:

Zama uncrowned - impish 252def 252spdef = 274def, 250SpDef w/ Assault vest LOL

[mighty stump]

A lot of Zama teams have transitioned to a higher tempo style

If not HO

[charred saddle]

understandable

[real prairie]

Also dropping ID usually means running wide guard which is a bid bonus atm

big*

[charred saddle]

ye

what if, we drop protect /j

[real prairie]

ive seen it lol

the anti zama-zama

[charred saddle]

why the fuck does it get imprison

huh

[cyan smelt]

why does it get moonblast

[real prairie]

someone thought ahead to 2 restricted lol

[knotty mirage]

Hmm imprison wide guard could be really annoying when you can pair zama with caly s

[left bobcat]

Bruh I went to campus for no reason

Also zama gets imprison?

Tfffff

[knotty mirage]

It seem's to be the case

So expect seeing some imprison zama play when double restricted format is available

[solid frigate]

Gen 8 Mons get weird Moves in their kit never failed to amaze Me

[real prairie]

is there a way to delete old Showdown accounts, or do i just have to leave them to wither away in the server? lol

[cyan smelt]

I don't think you can delete em

[real prairie]

wither it is

[cyan smelt]

Btw I saw one of your games earlier

[real prairie]

ive been shocking today

please ignore any of my matches you have seen today LOL

Today has not been good

[cyan smelt]

It's ok I lost a game I shouldn't have as well, I thought thundurus was Tornadus

[real prairie]

whoops lol

which game out of curiosity did you watch and how?

[cyan smelt]

I just saw it on the battles screen, it was your battle against the kyurem white team

[real prairie]

yeah the teams are getting so strange atm

[cyan smelt]

I was thinking you should have o pulsed to deal with the damage that you took from a9

[real prairie]

I don't have O'pulse

[cyan smelt]

I was expecting that kyurem to fusion flare instead of draco

[real prairie]

strange teams

that instruct team had tera fire tera blast Caly Ice

[cyan smelt]

For Zama?

I've seen a torkoal running fire blast too

[real prairie]

no idea but the element of surprise was enough to murder my 2 ice types

[cyan smelt]

Wow an alcremie

[real prairie]

okay these teams are taking the piss now

[cyan smelt]

no restricted?

[real prairie]

ignore the treeko ey, no restricted is the issue lol

[cyan smelt]

i guess treecko is focus sash endeavour?

[real prairie]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2286677123

Why did that E'speed hit me??

[real prairie]

Upper hand with Dnite weakness policy

[cyan smelt]

wtf

[real prairie]

did encore make it so extreme speed wasn't priorty?

thats niche AF

[foggy lodge]

Encore switched the speed tiers

It also happened to me against a Miraidon

I clicked tclap previous turn and then thunderbolt

But the opposing Whimsicott used encore and thunderclap was the last move used

Bcuz raging was the slower

[torn parrot]

ye it stopped being a prio move cus he clicked a normal move and got encored into the other one

happened to my friend when he encored taunt on torn with sableye and the torn was able to taunt him cus it was trying to bleakwind

no longer counted as prankster

[knotty mirage]

So it's technicaly a bug good to know then

[real prairie]

i think i need to step away, keep losing today, even on a low ladder alt. clearly im not thinking clearly.

[chrome knot]

gm mayaaaa

[real prairie]

know you wern't talking to me, but good morning lol

[chrome knot]

gm

[cyan smelt]

hiya emma

[chrome knot]

haii

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1315476623994392587/1315855813793022043/IMG_6939.gif

[foggy lodge]

https://youtu.be/KVgpVea97nk?si=-xyS_4NBORu4CRI1

btw CIR was never a fraud

[torn parrot]

Good morning (:

[left bobcat]

Hmmmmm that sure is an interesting team

[torn parrot]

Think I’ll try doing limitless this weekend

[left bobcat]

Must be low ladder

[cyan smelt]

Looks like a gc team

[torn parrot]

Oh yeah I saw this video

[cyan smelt]

Is tera fairy caly I something I should be worried about

[left bobcat]

Uhhhhhhh

No not really

[torn parrot]

As much as any other caly

[left bobcat]

The most threatening ones are probably Tera water/fire

[torn parrot]

They’re all equally annoying to me

[left bobcat]

Tera bug?

[real prairie]

Good watch, i hadn't considered Amoongus resists both zamazenta attacks

[real prairie]

it was, it was on an alt

[torn parrot]

Just be warned heavy’s slam does a pretty good chunk

Defintely slows it down tho

[real prairie]

yeah but it resisting + redirection might be what i need to finally get the best of the stupid dog

[cyan smelt]

Or you could use ditto

Bonus second restricted with smart positioning

[real prairie]

mmhh

[left bobcat]

Mmmmmmm

[torn parrot]

Very annoying guy

[solid frigate]

me and the team are trying to make Koraidon work lol

[real prairie]

It's a tera hog but it's not a bad Mon

[solid frigate]

its just people don't runD-Claw

[left bobcat]

Cuz it’s dookie

[molten oasis]

Wow I got up at a reasonable time

Tine for a very productive day of Minecraft

[real prairie]

Being able to one shot it with whimsicott let alone an actually strong fair type is an issue too 🤣

[chrome knot]

waowza

[forest arrow]

It’s beautiful :3

[torn parrot]

The flame charge stuff is so annoying

[real prairie]

welcome to the shiny Whims gang @chrome knot

[chrome knot]

giving to gf for her gc team so I will be leavin dat

[real prairie]

pokemon equivalent of buying your loved one a plant

[molten oasis]

Dude can this set come out sooner

The art is awesome

and it has zacian

[real prairie]

@solid frigate just played someone running ability shield Koraidon with G'weezing

could be a run option

[solid frigate]

i don't like Flame Charge Honestly

[torn parrot]

Why’s that?

[trim hound]

It's bad

[charred saddle]

wdym? treecko is a restricted

[molten oasis]

Monke said u-turn could be smth on koraidon

My thought was wild charge for peli and shifu maybe

[charred saddle]

i mean

[molten oasis]

Or just swords dance

[charred saddle]

change with what move tho?

speen, flareblitz, protect

[molten oasis]

Charge

[charred saddle]

u turn last? kinda iffy to me, flame charge is nice

[molten oasis]

You do wild charge over flame charge

[torn parrot]

I don’t think it’s bad, tho I also think you’re right that it’s not the only good move it can run. It’s just that it creates a situation where you can outspeed certain mons like shadow rider inside of tailwind

[tiny karma]

Move: Wild Charge

If the target lost HP, the user takes recoil damage equal to 1/4 the HP lost by the target, rounded half up, but not less than 1 HP.

Type

Electric

Category

Physical

Power

90

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

15 (24)

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[charred saddle]

eh

feels eh

[molten oasis]

I also feel like speed control is pretty easy to slap on a team

[real prairie]

Sad

[molten oasis]

How do you know it feels eh if you have thrown it into the builder and used it

[charred saddle]

ecause i was thinking and doing sim in head?

while yeah its good for peli its just that you couldve like used/played other leads

[torn parrot]

Simply saying “it’s bad” isn’t really saying anything

[charred saddle]

and also, its just an opinion

[molten oasis]

ok nvm the damage calcs are shit lmao

[charred saddle]

also i just dont like 2 recoils

1 is okay as a high risk high reward

[tiny karma]

Koraidon's moveset:

Physical Moves

Acrobatics, Body Press, Body Slam, Breaking Swipe, Brick Break, Bulldoze, Close Combat, Collision Course, Counter, Crunch, Dig, Double-Edge, Dragon Claw, Dragon Tail, Drain Punch, Dual Wingbeat, Facade, Fire Fang, Flame Charge, Flare Blitz, Focus Punch, Giga Impact, Heat Crash, Heavy Slam, Ice Fang, Iron Head, Low Kick, Low Sweep, Outrage, Reversal, Rock Smash, Scale Shot, Shadow Claw, Stomping Tantrum, Take Down, Temper Flare, Thunder Fang, U-turn, Wild Charge, Zen Headbutt

Special Moves

Ancient Power, Draco Meteor, Dragon Pulse, Fire Blast, Fire Spin, Flamethrower, Focus Blast, Heat Wave, Hyper Beam, Meteor Beam, Mud Shot, Mud-Slap, Overheat, Snarl, Solar Beam, Tera Blast, Uproar

Status Moves

Agility, Bulk Up, Dragon Cheer, Endure, Helping Hand, Protect, Rest, Roar, Scary Face, Screech, Sleep Talk, Substitute, Sunny Day, Swords Dance, Taunt

Notes

A move displayed with Bold text benefits from Same-Type Attack Bonus when used by Koraidon.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[molten oasis]

Swords dance

I never liked flame charge either

[charred saddle]

i kinda like it

get it going once and its hard to kinda speed control it

think i saw a more support oriented koraidon back then with breaking swipe

kinda interesting

[torn parrot]

It’s cool to dominate the 135 club that threaten you

As well as zacian and calyrex who are faster

[charred saddle]

flutter

[molten oasis]

I also think band could be explored

[torn parrot]

I agree

[charred saddle]

also flame charge under sun + fire tera is actually quite decent damage

[torn parrot]

Band with u turn sounds really strong

[charred saddle]

maybe so, with u turn then that makes sense

[molten oasis]

Idt people really try band koraidon because of incin

Which, like, at -1 with band you should still obliterate it

[charred saddle]

just that it doesnt provide the similar damage to miraidon since its STAB with volt

also true

no CLAM = incin hapy

[molten oasis]

Ok but korai isn’t ever doing the same damage as miraidon

[charred saddle]

oh but -1 collision still ohkoes right

[molten oasis]

With incin existing

[charred saddle]

on incin

[molten oasis]

-1 252 Atk Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Collision Course (Super Effective) vs. 228 HP / 188+ Def Incineroar: 171-203 (85.9 - 102%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

[charred saddle]

-1 252+ Atk Orichalcum Pulse Koraidon Collision Course (Super Effective) vs. 228 HP / 188+ Def Incineroar: 187-224 (93.9 - 112.5%) -- 68.75% chance to OHKO

[molten oasis]

That’s a really bulky one, but generally yes

[bold geode]

I meeeeaaaaannnnn

[charred saddle]

oof

[molten oasis]

Have you seen band

[bold geode]

Yeah that's still a chunk plus they Tera Ghost probably

[molten oasis]

Genuinely have you seen band, idt people have tried band

[bold geode]

I've seen it some

[torn parrot]

Scarf was also pretty annoying

You can u turn into a Chien Pao lol

[molten oasis]

That’s a + they used a tool

[bold geode]

Clear Amulet way more, but Band like I have seen before

[molten oasis]

Like you could go pao koraidon+speed control guy

[left bobcat]

Yeah guy

[molten oasis]

Immediately dish out tons of damage

[bold geode]

Also low-key hot take
I think Koraidon Flutter
Might be wrong

[molten oasis]

Really?

Why is that?

[bold geode]

All the sets I see with it make it rely HEAVILY on Proto boost and well
I think Flutter without a speed boost rn is actually kinda weak

[torn parrot]

Nah I don’t think your wrong
People sorta do tunnel vision on flutter in sun teams

[molten oasis]

I agree with that

Alr who’s cookin band koraidon with me

[bold geode]

The only Pokemon actually that benefits in the proto spam aspect that I think works with it honestly is Raging Bolt, but less because of Sun and more because of other reasons

[craggy dagger]

loaded dice better imo

[molten oasis]

You’ll miss

[craggy dagger]

not with gravity

[solid frigate]

nobody uses D-Claw anyways

[craggy dagger]

-# i’m running sableye next to korai

[bold geode]

Also Band good cuz low-key you could probably fit U Turn on it better and I won't stop saying it
That mfer needs U Turn

[molten oasis]

There is no fucking way you’re on gravity _ with koraidon scale shot

I think if I played hand to go wild charge flare blitz collision course and u-turn

Hm

[bold geode]

You already lose so much momentum via the ways you shut down Korai (Rain mainly here) that having to switch it out to reset it kinda just makes you lose even more headway that imo you just can't

[torn parrot]

Making me wanan play koraidon

[bold geode]

Cuz fact is the way Korai plays is by putting out a ton of damage and if you're having to hard switch it out, you're not doing shit

[molten oasis]

I like koraidon as a mon i just don’t have it ingame

[real prairie]

I hate Lunala teams: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2286757884-a6mcn8vwmm3ica9pgxfnqktv2l9e9vipw

[craggy dagger]

sing scream tail says otherwise

[molten oasis]

I hate you

[bold geode]

I think Koraidon players need to figure out two things, and imma run it for a bit to verify it

1. Needs U Turn
2. Needs to be able to have a team you can play consistently with without having to always rely on Sun

[molten oasis]

Yo banded outrage koraidon

With chien pao

[bold geode]

These may have been established things before, but it's just even more obvious now

[molten oasis]

[bold geode]

Cuz it gotta step it's game up
Groudon's beating it bro

Groudon is real now
But still

[torn parrot]

I hate this Lunala player

[real prairie]

IKR

[molten oasis]

252 Atk Orichalcum Pulse Sword of Ruin Tera-Fire Koraidon Flare Blitz vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Groudon in Sun: 211-249 (101.9 - 120.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO HAHAHAHA

[torn parrot]

Why he keep letting trick room go down 😭

[real prairie]

because he knew he could wait it out with stupid bulk

[torn parrot]

Dayum

Owie…

[molten oasis]

Gonna be honest this seems pretty good

252 Atk Orichalcum Pulse Sword of Ruin Tera-Fire Koraidon Outrage vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Calyrex-Ice Rider: 132-156 (63.7 - 75.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

[chrome knot]

@balmy glen while ive done literally 3 SanAn teams do u need anything done😭

@next stump same to you if ur going

[torn parrot]

If I do limitless tournaments I will only do the ones that have a chance at financial gain

[real prairie]

Can you tell GC is looming...

what are teams like this doing at 1500 lol

[torn parrot]

This guy is so cool

[solid frigate]

They dont cook my team at least

[torn parrot]

Now beat his ass

[left bobcat]

Not eat it

[torn parrot]

Okay sir

[left bobcat]

It just might be nerd clusters

[real prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/hiding-gif-6182225

[torn parrot]

Haha it’s okay

[real prairie]

Try to willowisp araquanid - water bubble

[chrome knot]

posting day1 #1 on leaderboard goes hard i think😭

[real prairie]

Try to parting shot araquanid - clear amulet

[solid frigate]

https://pokepast.es/cb1ee4827e26aa76

kek GC moment

[real prairie]

Pure support mons like Clefairy are wild, 1 taunt and cheerio

I understand them, just would struggle using something I can't do damage with

[solid frigate]

technically Clefairy is my Last Resort if i think i can't do it with Hands

[torn parrot]

Haha, I’ll take it

[chrome knot]

my goat

[solid frigate]

@torn parrot

Gonna run Dialga in This GC frfr

https://tenor.com/view/breakdance-of-time-pmd-pokemon-mystery-dungeon-riolu-gif-13361005654725912571

[real prairie]

It's going to be incredibly funny if you end up getting para'd lol