competitive_discussion

[dense latch]

horrible thing it does

not biased

[shadow wind]

🙂

I might replace Flutter mane though

[molten oasis]

Woah there lets not be rash

[cyan smelt]

so is stall fests gonna be something i'm gonna have to watch out for because i'm watching some games and have already seen lugia/muk/smeargle as well as eternatus

[molten oasis]

i wouldn't worry about that too much

[dense latch]

wait wrong reply i meant to reply to the bolt weather ball vs cir

[molten oasis]

no flutter on a sun team crazy

[cyan smelt]

i am worried about geezing csr dozo

[shadow wind]

Eh same thing

[molten oasis]

thats worth worrying about

[shadow wind]

I know I know

[molten oasis]

cuz its common and probably the most annoying team in the format rn

[dense latch]

sun teams have an insane amount of pins i’ve realized

at least against my team

[molten oasis]

free booster for moon and damage boost for ogerpon count me in

[dense latch]

i cant tera out of any weaknesses because i’ll just get blasted by some other move the next turn

i might have to fix my mu now that it’s actually getting really popular

a few weeks ago i only really had to worry about facing conner

[molten oasis]

cant wait for peli to rise in usage like crazy if sun becomes really common lol

[shadow wind]

That’s how Kyogre Tsareena feels

[molten oasis]

or kyogre

[cyan smelt]

i think my team struggles against sun

[dense latch]

hate that jumpluff’s back i cant stand going against it

[cyan smelt]

not sure if i have anything for tera bug bolt either

[molten oasis]

no fire or flying coverage?

ig flying coverage is kinda shit into bolt lol

[cyan smelt]

i do have fire and flying coverage but bolt can just tclap torn

[molten oasis]

unless you hard read and you dont explode

[cyan smelt]

and bolt is usually next to groudon and any fire type coverage explodes to groudon

[shadow wind]

🐐🐐

Jumpluff is silly

I ran jumpluff way back when Reg G started for the first time

[dense latch]

i’m fixing my lines into sun tmr

legit gonna write them down on paper

[cyan smelt]

i'm huffing copium because i was trying to use geezing in reg h, i was just using it a reg too early

[shadow wind]

I love taking hand notes

[molten oasis]

https://pokepast.es/ffbb28b8aa90d58e my sun mu is bonk

[shadow wind]

Got a whole little notebook that I use

[molten oasis]

and lando cuz koraidon will tera infront of zac or moon so often

[cyan smelt]

i need to start taking notes but idk what to take notes about, do you just take notes about what you're losing to and what damage they do?

[shadow wind]

Whenever I think of something it goes down on paper

Good or bad or not related

A good line into an MU or just a random thought I had for Scovillian

[cyan smelt]

scovillain is funny i wish it were better

[dense latch]

i really wanna perfect the team i have rn

[shadow wind]

Spicy extract almost cooks

[shadow wind]

I also wish to master any team I make

Too bad I lose hope in them too quickly

Frickin new team every 10 minutes

[dense latch]

a few people made day 2 at birmingham with a team rly similar to mine, just indeedee instead of iron val

[cyan smelt]

idk whether to go back to scarf shifu or run sash on shifu, seems a lot of people are running sash now

[shadow wind]

Sash is more common but scarf is awesome

[cyan smelt]

i have learnt that mystic water is ass on shifu and i was doing much better with scarf

[molten oasis]

worth, cuz comfortability is so nice in a team

[cyan smelt]

and maybe with scarf i can try coaching shifu again

[molten oasis]

i almost lost hope in the roaring moon stuff i had before i figured what am i gonna do better lol

now its the team i'll be playing until next reg probably

cuz i play best when im comfortable with a team

[shadow wind]

But adaptability with teams is also nice

[cyan smelt]

my team was good in reg g part 1 and the only change i made since then was replacing scarf with mystic water on shifu so i have to hope that it's that change that made my team sucky

[molten oasis]

im kinda ass at adaptability with teams

cuz i try to solve as many holes as possible

and once i find enough holes covered and then play to learn the rest i wanna just, keep that team cuz i dont wanna constantly change the team

[cyan smelt]

i can do scarf shifu with coaching and ghost tera ig

then i can do rain dance torn

[dense latch]

i always struggle with the sixth slot

i think it’s one of the hardest parts when building a team

[craggy dagger]

play play play
then make small edits i think
though imo it’s good to properly settle on a 6 before you tweak move sets etc

[molten oasis]

thats what i haven't done

until this reg, last reg i couldnt settle anywhere

[cyan smelt]

i also struggled last reg

[molten oasis]

im also trying to build comfortability so i can try to improve with a team i like

[dense latch]

i found a core i really enjoy using and i’ve these past few weeks of play finding the best partners for them

[craggy dagger]

🤝

we both struggle with the same thing lol

[molten oasis]

damn lol

but also i catch you using the weirdest shit on a regular basis

[craggy dagger]

that’s true

[cyan smelt]

weird is what probably led to geezing csr dozo

[molten oasis]

nah someone that likes making people suffer made that team

[torn parrot]

Iv jsut been on one team this whole reg so far havnt felt inspired to make anything else

But it’s been cool to try to perfect it over time

[torn parrot]

Perfectionists🤝

[molten oasis]

thats my plan

i think moon zac is strong

[cyan smelt]

you should build more teams maya because your and honeyfuschia's teams are always good

[torn parrot]

Thank you ((:

[torn parrot]

I think so too
I hope your teambuilding goes awesome

[molten oasis]

i hope so too

[torn parrot]

https://youtu.be/xRsTDsptrwY?si=uwwCKoCac8RxPhcX

Enjoy the regional you guys

[molten oasis]

“Say that again?”

[solid frigate]

hello

[solid frigate]

wtf

[cyan smelt]

Why is Zama as popular as miraidon

[mighty stump]

The trouble is when I made too good of a team that is so me

I don’t want to build anything else

HAHAH

[plain drum]

Lmao

[molten oasis]

So you’re not playing much of this reg either then?

[balmy glen]

i put everyone on

Zama Amoongus is broken

[solid frigate]

Monke just had that realisation after that lmao

[balmy glen]

bro he might have to eat a cone or something i forgot

i screenshot it

[solid frigate]

alr

[balmy glen]

Ye ik he dmed me

[plain drum]

Trust the fungus - Luigi

[solid frigate]

trust the a Mushrooms

[cyan smelt]

just watched a horrible stall team game where the iron moth set up toxic spikes and it had eternatus and wo-chien and clodsire lol

eternatus, wo-chien, blissey, clodsire, iron moth and dragapult

[solid frigate]

Stream? Or just some random ladder bullshit

[cyan smelt]

ladder

[solid frigate]

ok thank god

[mighty stump]

More of just chilling til inspo strikes

[cyan smelt]

I think I'm gonna try and play tomorrow, need to figure out how I'm gonna deal with miraidon and that geezing caly s dozo team

[chrome knot]

calyrex time

[forest arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/glastrier-gif-21054576

[chrome knot]

waiiit no longer calyrex lmao

he had to gamble

[knotty mirage]

Damn caly ice can't beat the fraud allegation yet huh

[solid frigate]

didn’t it won NAIC and Second in Worlds?

[chrome knot]

yes but in 2025regg its struggling

[real prairie]

I played 1 Caly ice y'day... It was Assault vest

They played it next to wideguard tailwind pelliper, turn 1 then wide guarded, I fake tears hydro pumped into Caly 🤣

[foggy lodge]

There are two Groudon in top 16 and one is already in top 8 lol

Jumpluff is brokennnn

[solid frigate]

yeah i was like what the fuck wtf

[solid frigate]

Dude Its Base Speed x2 without Tailwind btw in sun

thats Basically Prankster but doesn’t have the downsides

[foggy lodge]

Iron Leaves on stream lol

[foggy lodge]

Mhm

Very broken mon

[solid frigate]

somehow Iron Leaves is doing good lol

[foggy lodge]

I think this team is from a japanese player that got 1 on cart ladder

Electric seed Hands lol

[solid frigate]

idk

[solid frigate]

w h a t

[foggy lodge]

Yeah it's a good team Joshua Lorcy made day 2 at worlds with it

[solid frigate]

huh

[real prairie]

Yeah I played an electric seed hands yday in a miraidon team

[chrome knot]

insane throat chop call

GODDAMN HES PLAYING OUT OF HIS MIND

[solid frigate]

how the fuck you get weird builds-

[real prairie]

I was running a Ludicolo Rain team, I have no right to call anyone else team weird 🤣

[solid frigate]

i have the rights tho lmao

[real prairie]

He was running the AV on Urshu dark

So ran electric seed hands

[solid frigate]

just Run S A S H

[bold geode]

Am I really looking at 3 Kyogre in top 8

[solid frigate]

Kyogre DOMINATION

ALSO HALF OF THEM ARE GEN 3 RESTRICTEDS LMAO

[bold geode]

Wait no
2 Kyogre and 2 Groudon
This ain't real LMAO

[foggy lodge]

Oh lmao they put the wrong bracket

Is Gabriel Llanso vs Alex Gomez

Groudon vs Pagos

[solid frigate]

gen 3 moment

[bold geode]

Terapagos could win this too actually LOL

Any way you look at it, Gomez is either fighting weather or terrain based stuff

[solid frigate]

https://youtu.be/5V0kzLYkYTM?si=ETG-iH3Pa8umecNK

Groudon:You know what Kyogre,Lets just set our differences aside and Beat the Gen 8- 9 Restricteds

Kyogre:Fair Point

[foggy lodge]

Oh its AV Groudon

oh bye bye Inci

Damn what a good play

[solid frigate]

is top 8 decided?

like the winning or losing i mean

pagos bye

yeah 1-1 rn

G3

the casters really hve Bias towards Groudon huh

burnt Groudon btw

WAIT HOW FAST IS THIS TERAPAGOS

[bold geode]

Terapagos in top 4, it might actually win

[twin kindle]

Common terapgos w

[solid frigate]

Yep We love The Turtle

I might revisit it for fun

[twin kindle]

YUSS

[solid frigate]

eh

I’m not too sure

Lets see the others

[bold geode]

Helloing

[foggy lodge]

Groudon Gouging Fire Volcarona top 8 let's gooo

Its a cool team

THE TWO GROUDONS ARE OUT

[solid frigate]

Damn

RIP Groudon

[bold geode]

No one believed in Pagos smfh

[solid frigate]

Gou gin Fire

Ah yes.

[solid frigate]

dude you are talking to a person that plays Terapagos

FOR 4 MONTHS

[chrome knot]

ehehe

[foggy lodge]

Zamazenta can actually win the whole thing

FedeCampo vs Oliver Eskolin

[solid frigate]

Kyogre vs Zamazenta

place your bets

[chrome knot]

kyogre :D

[bold geode]

ZAMAZENTA TIME

[solid frigate]

im either but I want to Pick Kyogre+Roaring Moon Team

[bold geode]

I don't want Zam to win actually
I've been struggling against that mirror so bad

[solid frigate]

lol

but then again if Roaring Moon wins i dont mind

oooo not good for Oliver

[foggy lodge]

It's not a good match up

Only origin and Ice beam Kyogre vs WG zama

[solid frigate]

he needs Urshifu

NOT THE DOUBLE MISS AGAIN

ORIGIN MISS MOMENT

OLIVER WOOOO

KYOGRE FINALS

[bold geode]

Kyogre finals

[atomic mural]

Kyogre finals

[chrome knot]

wat

[solid frigate]

Kyogre finals

[chrome knot]

did he

jus concede instead of playing g 3 ?

[solid frigate]

they played Game 3

[chrome knot]

OH

waow I missed all of g1 LOL

[bold geode]

LOL

[solid frigate]

LMAO

Kyogre is now in Finals

That huge Comeback from Kyogre tho

[chrome knot]

:v

[solid frigate]

Humble and Eeppy

”The tides are changing”

Yeah Literally,Thats a Kyogre Pun

[bold geode]

I see a Iron Hands change

[torn parrot]

I hope groudon wins

[atomic mural]

a little too late

[bold geode]

Too late
He lost

Though Kyogre is in finals

So I feel like Mirai or Pagos is winning

[torn parrot]

Darny

[bold geode]

Hey
Kyogre in finals
That's something

[torn parrot]

If that same Miraidon team wins against will be so disappointed

[bold geode]

Probably good chance LOL

It is Miraidon

If William wins then it will be a VERY UPHILL BATTLE for Kyogre

Terapago might not be any better though tbh

[torn parrot]

Yeah it looks like a team that has a lot of trouble doing damage to Miraidon

[real prairie]

What's the Kyogre team?

I'm not able to watch ATM

[stray girder]

does ability sheild protect the ability from moves such as doodle that you yourself used

[real prairie]

Should do

[foggy lodge]

Calm Mind Ogre with roaring moon

And standard balance mons, Inci Rilla Urshi Guss

[real prairie]

Someone mind screenshotting the teamsheet when it pops up

[foggy lodge]

Sure

[real prairie]

🤮

[bold geode]

Have you not seen the Roaring Moon Kyogre stuff going around?

Anyways chat
I'm beginning to think there's just no such thing as a good Miraidon MU

[real prairie]

I've not seen anything outside of my own games Yday

[bold geode]

It's been going around for a month lol

[foggy lodge]

It's the same team from worlds so here is the paste https://pokepast.es/0a8011f92fe6ca9e

[real prairie]

No tbh, didn't really see it much in showdown

[real prairie]

Oh

Ew

[bold geode]

Did he just bring the same exact team

[foggy lodge]

Yes

[bold geode]

I hate that Junxi got eliminated in top 8
I needed him to win so I could talk shit about Ice Rider winning

[left bobcat]

Let’s go

[real prairie]

I feel like Kyogre would benefit more from widelense in this team than leftovers but hey ho

[bold geode]

Honestly Miraidon isn't even the worst part about Miraidon teams, it's fucking Whimsicott

[torn parrot]

What

[left bobcat]

Encore-

[torn parrot]

Ohhh

[bold geode]

Yeah Prankster Encore is a son of a bitch

Man LMAO

[left bobcat]

It’s so good

[bold geode]

Yeah Miraidon just wins the event now

[left bobcat]

But it’s not a problem for my lunala team

[torn parrot]

Very cool I’m so happy that happened

[left bobcat]

Wait what happened

[bold geode]

Terapagos ate shit and fucking died

Terapagos shot dead in the Bronx

[left bobcat]

Well damn

Ooooh well

[bold geode]

Like there's no way Alex wins this now

[left bobcat]

Body press?

[bold geode]

No Body Press LOL

HUH

Oh damn

[foggy lodge]

Oh he readed the switch

Nah there's no out here

[bold geode]

Read the switch that he could've just killed with Drift LMAO

[torn parrot]

Isn’t there one more match

[bold geode]

Yeah but it's Miraidon vs Kyogre like

You really expect Kyogre to win

[torn parrot]

Well it’s the underdog so it’s more interesting to root for the underdog but

I really don’t see how it would win

[left bobcat]

That’s what I’m saying

But chances are yeah they’re cooked

[bold geode]

I will admit though I didn't expect Kyogre to make it this far

[real prairie]

I'm sure it's beat miraidon teams on the way here

[foggy lodge]

OLIVER YOU CAN DO ITTTTT

[bold geode]

But sadly once again
Idt there's such a thing as a good Miraidon MU

[real prairie]

I was quite good into miraidon personally but I had chien pao to outspeed and either pressure KOs or force teras so Kyogre could hit it

[foggy lodge]

Rilla Amoonguss is the way ig

I'm not sure about Roaring Moon here like what does roaring moon does against whimsi mirai

And Kyogre needs to get the CM and then just snowball

[real prairie]

Fast knock offs I guess

[foggy lodge]

Is the world champion team he has to have something in mind

[torn parrot]

Or tera grass calm mind and Rilla

It’s a good thing guy has ice beam

[foggy lodge]

The thing is

Ogerpon

Because Ogerpon kills Kyogre even with rain

[torn parrot]

Darny your right

Just a horrendous matchup

[bold geode]

Fuck it
Ting Lu time

[foggy lodge]

Cycle intimidate keep terrain redirect whatever you can and snowball with calm mind

[bold geode]

(Ting Lu Zam wouldn't work that well)

[torn parrot]

It would be so cool if the kyogre team won tho

Would be a crazy game

[real prairie]

Guess no locals for me...

[solid frigate]

is it Terapagos vs Kyogre now

oh Mirror Ogre

[left bobcat]

Ohohohohhohoho

[foggy lodge]

why are you posting selfies

[torn parrot]

My hot take is I like the new donkey Kong design more than the old one

[solid frigate]

wait false alarm its Mirai vs Kygre

[left bobcat]

Oooh big shot

[torn parrot]

Go kyogre!

Pull a miracle for me

There’s literally no gameplan 😭

[foggy lodge]

In my heart Groudon won anyways

Gouging Fire and Jumpluff gaming

[torn parrot]

Already a rough lead

[solid frigate]

honestly since Miraidon is a Worlds Team

I kinda dont want Miraidon to win

[foggy lodge]

Oh shit

[torn parrot]

Just kidding every lead is rough

WIN KYOGRE

[left bobcat]

I want big fish to win

[torn parrot]

Underdog!

AYOOO

KYOGREEE

[foggy lodge]

Oh that's a read

[torn parrot]

SLAYING???

[foggy lodge]

Hmmm protect inci¿

[torn parrot]

Yeah kyogre dies to a Draco

Too strong

[foggy lodge]

Amoonguss

[torn parrot]

GOOBUS

[foggy lodge]

ok i understand it

Rage powder

If Ogerpon tera she gets redirected by rage powder

Aqua jet kills no?

[torn parrot]

yeesh

Scary

[bold geode]

How is Kyogre in the fucking lead

[torn parrot]

KYOGREEEEEEEEE

UNDERDOGGGGGGGG

[bold geode]

WHAT THE FUCK

[torn parrot]

GG

THAT WAS A 4-0!!!

[solid frigate]

did he forgot that Shifu has Scarf lmao

[bold geode]

He can swap in Rilla too now

It's cuz I said Mirai would win, I fucking jinxed William

[torn parrot]

Haha

[solid frigate]

also Tera Water Hands would Come in Handy in that Match up lmao(i know that William did not have that)

[torn parrot]

That was crazy

[foggy lodge]

Why not pick Whimsicott?

[chrome knot]

100% win is just cc + protect

[solid frigate]

yeah idk why

[chrome knot]

rilla comes in, fo + ice beam win yay

[bold geode]

I see
Then again it's a 4 v 1 and Gleam definitely doesn't win that so

[chrome knot]

nvm locked into ss

lolz

nothing rly mattered tbh

[bold geode]

Oh yeah LMAO

[foggy lodge]

Yeh it was just switch out rilla and then you can do anything you want everthing wins

[chrome knot]

it was wraps but letting ursh die is just better

[foggy lodge]

As long as you don't lock into surging strikes you win lol

[left bobcat]

But you gotta lock in

[chrome knot]

ss + protect, ursh dies, rilla comes in with fo & ice beam yay

idk he just did it weirdly

[bold geode]

Yeah Rilla comes in, Kyogre probably lives whatever and then you Ice Beam

[foggy lodge]

Oliver is playing the match right

The drum beating was so good

[left bobcat]

Chicken

[foggy lodge]

HE CAN WIN

nvm

[left bobcat]

Damn

Almost gave me hope

[torn parrot]

It’s so bover

Come on final round

[foggy lodge]

ITS 252 JOLLY

NOOOOOOOOOO

[bold geode]

BIG MISS

[torn parrot]

Groudon vibes

[bold geode]

It's so Joever tbh

[torn parrot]

That rillaboom is fast as balls

[foggy lodge]

Oliver needs to read everything

[torn parrot]

He does

Unfortunately

Darn he won this game…

STOP CRITING AAAAA

[solid frigate]

Lol

well Worlds Mirai team won again

Rilla can't beat that Ogerpon

[torn parrot]

Kyogre won this game but it missed

):

[solid frigate]

thats not a win lol

but yeah worlds Formula is still here

[bold geode]

GGs
Miraidon won but good shit on Kyogre

[solid frigate]

OUCH THAT DID NOT KILL LMAO

[dense latch]

that’s just salt on the wound damn

[atomic mural]

after that game 1 he locked in

[solid frigate]

at least let him kill that Ogerpon damn

[chrome knot]

https://x.com/spcrashworks/status/1881023874898473264?s=46&t=FIWgOpf0yRQcHBdRCEbKnw

spcrash (@spcrashworks) on X

All the Kyogre Origin Pulse misses at the Pokémon VGC Birmingham Regional reminded me of this art I made last year.

X · Jan 19, 2025, 5:00 PM

[bold geode]

I mean Game 1 he focused on the Grass types way too hard

But if he hit that Pulse it would've been a better chance

[worthy lark]

Ngl if pulse hits i think kyorge wins that last match

[torn parrot]

Unfortunate

[solid frigate]

i mean Roaring Moon No.2 now

So

[worthy lark]

Think it would snowball to hard

[solid frigate]

this regional feels very cursed

[bold geode]

Like the Pulse hitting would not have been game winning but it missing was game losing

[torn parrot]

I’ll never run the whale or the lizard

[worthy lark]

Still that worlds team is so good.

Really fills in the holes that miraidon has

[torn parrot]

I was hoping something cool and new would take the spotlight

[worthy lark]

I feel miraidon doesn't have as much build flexibility that the calrexs do

[bold geode]

Nah it's EU
It got close but idt that would happen

[worthy lark]

But ngl apirl can't come fast enough

I want double restricted

[atomic mural]

caly ice miraidon

[bold geode]

"But it's boring when meta shit is winning" fuck that
This was Kyogre's first finals appearance this gen

[worthy lark]

[balmy glen]

You guys know what won the tournament after Mirai won first regional last year 🙂

[foggy lodge]

Groudonnnn

[worthy lark]

Csr

Was it shield doggo

[torn parrot]

Zamazenta won THE VERY FIRST REGIONAL OF 2025

YAAA

LETS GOOOOOOO

[worthy lark]

Hey at least there's 6 viable restricted.

[torn parrot]

Out of 26

Peak game design

[worthy lark]

Wait I forgot koraidon 7 viable

[chrome knot]

itll be cir this time sowwieee

[worthy lark]

Miraidon, Koraidon, kyorge, zamazenta, csr, cir, terapogos.

[chrome knot]

groudon

[solid frigate]

Somehow Groudon players Dedication are as strong as steel-

[bold geode]

Remember the deal fucker

[bold geode]

I'm sorry but Koraidon is having a massive fall off for some reason

Like now Groudon is doing better than it LMAO

[chrome knot]

new favourite move: light screen lmfao

[bold geode]

I swear

[worthy lark]

Still won reg g regional so it's possible

[chrome knot]

on lunala it makes csr mirai kinda easier

[bold geode]

Honestly idk if there's such thing as a good Miraidon MU

Like that mfer just does so much
But also props to fucking Kyogre I was actually rooting for it for a sec

[worthy lark]

Forget kyorge having a chokehold on pokemon for like 5 years

[knotty mirage]

Koraidon is yeah 4x weakness to fairy and it doesn't have spread move

[worthy lark]

True.

[bold geode]

Actually if anyone argues that the Reg is boring, imma show em today's top 8 LMFAO

[bold geode]

Low-key yesterday in my mental builder Landorus Therian popped up for a bit

[left bobcat]

I like my water raw

[knotty mirage]

This reg def better than dire claw casino that is last reg

[solid frigate]

ah yes

Budgeted Calyrex Ice

[foggy lodge]

Kirby in top 8

[chrome knot]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2284112348-460s0op9aux57jsqsl27vyb3a659pydpw

[foggy lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/jumpluff-shiny-pokemon-shinypokemon-shinyjumpluff-gif-22995339

[bold geode]

Like bro you can't tell me this shit boring when two Groudon made top 8 after all that time of it being so ass
AND KYOGRE NOT ONLY MAKING FINALS BUT DAMN NEAR WINNING

[foggy lodge]

After game 1 i already thought Oliver was winning 2-0

🫠

[dense latch]

game 1 was so dominant i dont blame you

[bold geode]

Like I hate the argument of "oh it's boring cuz like Cosmoem didn't win" like cuz you don't even pay attention to other interactions that are interesting

[foggy lodge]

If it doesn't win the whole event is a fraud

[bold geode]

Oliver should've been washed imo
But the fact that went that way is exciting

[left bobcat]

For some reason jumpluff is always my first shiny in violet

Except every single time it dies because it uses memento

[solid frigate]

Raging Bolt @ Assault Vest
Ability: Protosynthesis
Level: 50
Tera Type: Grass
EVs: 212 HP / 20 Def / 156 SpA / 76 SpD / 44 Spe
Modest Nature

• Thunderbolt
• Thunderclap
• Draco Meteor
• Breaking Swipe

What am i doing

[shadow wind]

Bro just use snarl 😭

[solid frigate]

[shadow wind]

That John not moving before anything

It’s copping a hit THEN lowering the stat

[solid frigate]

Chi Yu:

[shadow wind]

Yeah but breaking swipe…

[solid frigate]

come on its funni

[shadow wind]

Won’t be when it does 5%

[solid frigate]

besides its a beta for my team

[solid frigate]

Draco Meteor:

[shadow wind]

I was talking about the breaking swipe

[solid frigate]

it was meant for support anyways

[shadow wind]

Yeah but you can at least make your support do some damage

Like gouging fire with breaking swipe

[solid frigate]

it was not meant for doing Damage?

sigh-

[solid frigate]

read this

[shadow wind]

Whenever I make a team the first draft and anything after that is always my best attempt

I don’t throw random stuff on there because it’s a first draft

[solid frigate]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/884849474583806069/1259311957354352721/pompom-star-rail.gif

i used Snarl Bolt Since Reg F

i know what i am doing

[chrome knot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1315476623994392587/1315855813793022043/IMG_6939.gif

[shadow wind]

And what’s your peak?

[solid frigate]

does ladder made a difference when actually having more experience

[craggy dagger]

just wanna point out that going to an irl amounts to a lot more experience than peaking what
1700 on showdown cts?

[shadow wind]

Well I feel like 90% of the top competitive players could easily scale ladder

So you’re saying that because they have more experience than me, me trying to discourage breaking swipe on raging bolt is voided because I’m just a ladder goblin

[craggy dagger]

sure but theres a reason why they arent lol

[craggy dagger]

i mean he did say it was funny which meant he wasnt planning on making it a serious thing

[solid frigate]

i'm not bothering to go to climb the ladder soley because
1.I actually gone to Birmingham and got my experience on it (Man it was so fun)
2.The team was not even finalised

[twin kindle]

woahhhh, calm down children!!
We all learn at our own pace and in our own ways

[torn parrot]

I agree that measuring peak sizes isn’t really that productive. But you also can’t dismiss the hard work and experience that goes into climbing ladder

[shadow wind]

Why I stopped responding

I think it’s a stupid argument and I don’t want to push the idea that I’m some ego head because I peak high on ladder

[twin kindle]

Iss a game ^o^
We all have fun in our own way

Some like the competition of leaderboards some like the fun of just playing

[plain drum]

We love having fun

[torn parrot]

I think both people were kinda wrong in this case and this wasn’t a fun discussion

[twin kindle]

Pointing fingers also does nothing
GROUP HUG!!

Insert me embed failing bevuase I forgor here

https://tenor.com/view/k-on-op-intro-season-2-cute-gif-14515275880355857639

[plain drum]

Never fails

[spiral ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/k-on-op-intro-season-2-cute-gif-14515275880355857639

there ya go

[shadow wind]

Yeah I’ll take that

Elo does not show the whole story

And CTS is stupid in its own ways

[twin kindle]

They grow up so fast
It feels like today when I first met you/hj

[plain drum]

Sometimes in life we want endless fun, but we must settle for like 3 fun

Idfk

[dense latch]

yea even at the higher levels you get cts’d every other game or so

[torn parrot]

Yeah

Part of the shit
That’s why you gotta play a lot of games

[solid frigate]

awwww

[plain drum]

I hug Piplup

[gentle crag]

[twin kindle]

^o^

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/hsr-honkai-honkai-star-rail-star-rail-herta-gif-2686276737345651596

[real prairie]

I need to petition for the whale to get flip turn, would make scarf whale so much better

[charred saddle]

i love you

[gentle crag]

You gave Gen Rep too recently. You can give Gen Rep again <t:1737311236:R>.

[twin kindle]

[left bobcat]

🐙

[solid frigate]

[shadow wind]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2284148696-e1t4og3dnno4tpjp0bqnpodvadxl3gwpw

Yknow I see why people hate Jumpluff

[foggy lodge]

There's a life orb farigiraf lol

[twin kindle]

You

[charred saddle]

heh

[solid frigate]

[twin kindle]

Wanna fwight

[twin kindle]

[solid frigate]

awwww i don't want to fight you

[charred saddle]

[twin kindle]

Hehe scared to crush me?

That prideful?/t

[solid frigate]

i'm scwared

[shadow wind]

I hate decorate CIR teams

[twin kindle]

Im just teasing you
We don’t have to if you don’t want

[solid frigate]

thank god haha

[gentle crag]

morrispxg456 has given 1 Gen Rep to stellalunita

[twin kindle]

who knew I was so scareh

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/belle-zzz-zenless-zone-zero-shake-drink-gif-7645421774834538081

[left bobcat]

🦑🎮

[bold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/tv-shows-television-tackle-hug-hug-glomping-gif-14859564

[real prairie]

I'm feeling really lost on what to do with myself now I'm done with the regional, there are zero locals near me and I can't get into EUIC 😭

Wish I had prepared something, anything for zamazenta teams

[left bobcat]

Mmmmmmmmmmm

Yeah I wouldn’t know either

[real prairie]

Feels like I should be practicing for something next, but what

Global challenge maybe?

[solid frigate]

yeah i'm doing that as well

[real prairie]

My team works really well into BO1 so I only really need to add something for dealing with Zamas

I'll look at speed tiers tomorrow and see if I can find something to outspeed and ohko the damn thing

Outside of that, I might imprison it

[solid frigate]

hmmmm

[left bobcat]

Whatever doe

[real prairie]

How do I change my name just for this server?

Found it

[twin kindle]

Ludicologne Tm

[solid frigate]

LMAO GOOD ONE

[twin kindle]

I’m a baby I don’t know how discord works pout

[solid frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/hugs-gif-3583805649075915729

[real prairie]

?

[twin kindle]

Irl ludicolo

[torn parrot]

I wanna gun for 1800 but also don’t wanna play ladder

[solid frigate]

the Ludicolo finest revolution

[left bobcat]

Damn I’m #392

So farrrrrrrr

My win rate is so bad 💀

[mint void]

@solid frigateso how is the Raging Bolt experiements going

[solid frigate]

eh its alr

could optimise my placement like how i did with in the regional

[bold geode]

Shit I'll never say frfr

[torn parrot]

Uwa?

[mint void]

he will never say that himself

[torn parrot]

Ohh

[stray girder]

if i have 2 pokemon with pickup and one is holding electric seed, will it just go back and forth between them if the terrain is up

[mint void]

pick up has no battle usage afaik

Only wild mons

[stray girder]

aww

[mint void]

harvest recovers berries to 100% in the sun

which is a gimmick(not good in Reg G though)

[left bobcat]

Damn I fell off so quickly 😔

Well at least I made it

[torn parrot]

You did great 👏

[mint void]

Need a Tailwind setter that beats CIR...

[torn parrot]

Talonflame can burn
Roaring moon can knock off but sadly dies in return

[mint void]

yeah

[torn parrot]

Suicune also has tailwind

[mint void]

imma test

I have no way to get suicune shiny myself but same goes for Moon

[solid frigate]

suicune has potential

[mint void]

252 SpA Latios Shadow Ball vs. 244 HP / 100 SpD Calyrex-Ice Rider: 68-82 (33 - 39.8%) -- 99.98% chance to 3HKO

thats disapointing holy shit

+1 Black Glasses Moltres-Galar Foul Play vs. 244 HP / 164+ Atk / 0 Def Calyrex-Ice Rider: 258-306 (125.2 - 148.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

[solid frigate]

oh yeah btw there is a Latias in Birmingham regionals

[mint void]

yeah I just finished the VOD

sad to see kyogre lose

happy to see this guy win his first

final was a winwin/loselose

[mint void]

cant do shit to Caly tho. its just chilling

[dense latch]

scald and pray for burns ig

[solid frigate]

Its just Chilling

NEIGH

Ha gottem

[torn parrot]

Ye like Erik said scald

what’s the worst it could do? Tera fire? Lol

[foggy lodge]

Suicune learns snarl

[shadow wind]

And espeed

This is not ideal

[real prairie]

i love when i can just click buttons: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2284262001

[shadow wind]

How can you claim you’re the #1 Ludicolo player if you don’t even use Ludicolo

[real prairie]

haha used ludicolo, got my medal, now he's being benched to see how far i can get

but im the #1 because I wen't 5-3 with Ludicolo this weekend @ B'ham 🙂

[shadow wind]

Dang nice job

[real prairie]

thanks man

really proud of myself considering it was my first ever tournament and I was basically handicapping myself with my team 🤣

speaking of B'ham, anyone have the day 1 usage stats? would be keen to see what pokemon topped day 1

i faced 1 caly ice, 1 koraidon, 1 zama, 1 caly shadow and 4 Miraidon if my memory servers me right

[mint void]

ok?

[left bobcat]

Thank you 🥹

[gentle crag]

l_delacruz__ has given 1 Gen Rep to mayahoppins

[mint void]

Oh wait i didnt specifiy which caly in the 2nd msg

[left bobcat]

I tried using trick room calyshadow

[mint void]

best Ludi finish since 2022 minimum

[left bobcat]

It was just one of many of dumb ideas

Like my specs Koraidon

[mint void]

thats gambling

but yeah its neat idea and niche

i like niche

[torn parrot]

A tailwind setter that beats ice is a very niche ask

hard to accomplish

[mint void]

Thing is Imma go do a Kyogre Palafin shit first...Palafin OHKOs Caly anyway so best case they just dont know I can one hit

unfort not even that easy cause the fucker needs to switch out

[left bobcat]

Palafin?

Now that’s a name I haven’t heard of in a while

[atomic portal]

https://tenor.com/view/rocks-scizor-pokemon-pokemon-scizor-rock-tomb-gif-10941870209288418939

[left bobcat]

An old relic

[mint void]

thats what I said

[torn parrot]

Now that’s actually cool

[real prairie]

whats nice is the arsehat that beat me to stop me going day 2 went 0-3 today

[torn parrot]

Scizor actually is pretty genius

[atomic portal]

my cranium is the largest

https://tenor.com/view/somali-somalian-kq-maz-big-forehead-gif-9867909239032094859

[mint void]

it kinda is decent.

since there is rain anyway fire isnt that bad

[real prairie]

i enjoyed it in Reg H

[left bobcat]

MEGA KRANUS

[mint void]

can they buff X-Scissor please...its so...not lunge

[dense latch]

it looks like such a high crit chance move

[torn parrot]

Sir go bug bite

it’s 90

And eats berries

[chrome knot]

@twin kindle bwahbwahbwahbwahbwah

[twin kindle]

EMMEIE HAAI

[chrome knot]

[left bobcat]

Mmmm I love berries

Especially the FAT juicy blueberries that aren’t sour

[twin kindle]

Aweeee🥺, what can I help you with?

[torn parrot]

Honestly scizor has so many good bug type moves he can use

[left bobcat]

Bug buzz

Btw I always thought sacred fire was a special attack

[torn parrot]

It looks like one on showdown

I swear I like making teams more than I like playing the game

[left bobcat]

Because I was like why does entei have it?

I thought entei was a physical attacker

So when I saw sacred fire I was like hmmmm

[pallid hare]

because sacred fire is physical

[torn parrot]

In my time playing ho oh I will give it something

Guy can take a beating

I mean

Still half the beating of calyrex ice lol

But still a pretty good beating

[left bobcat]

I recently learned that

Never really seen ho oh that much

I thought it was a mixed attacker

[solid frigate]

Time to

Put my Regionals Team into the rental Team

[molten oasis]

Does uhm, https://pokepast.es/7aa129a945b96368 does Zac make sense on the team

[dense latch]

yea i dont see y not

[mint void]

probs is

[solid frigate]

Me after i missed 2 Draco Meteors against Groudon:

[shadow wind]

He's too nimble

[solid frigate]

thats the reason why i lost round 2 during that regionals

[shadow wind]

Excpet mine 😔

I mean you are using the inaccurate move

It's a risk you took

[solid frigate]

which its my only shot and Dragon Pulse does not kill

[shadow wind]

Can I see your team?

[chrome knot]

the idea of playing the game vs actually playing

[mint void]

Evasion should be different for Pokémon. Would put some realism in. Not that one has a chance to dodge 100% moves but that some have reduced evasion. Like u have 102% accuracy on them or some shit. Would be funny.

Ass
But funny

[mint void]

Still though. The other option is coming up with a different gamplan against Groudi

[shadow wind]

Yeah

[solid frigate]

i actually talked to my opponent about it,if i clicked Dgleam,he could just Tera Fire and i have no rights to click E-Drift

And i have to gamble with Draco because my boardstate is good

[shadow wind]

If the game plan is "If I hit this draco I win" it's a bad game plan

Or don't lead Miraidon

And try to force a tera so you can electro drift later

[solid frigate]

its Turn 3.

and i barely Lead Miraidon.

[shadow wind]

Don't people normally lead Miraidon?

[solid frigate]

those are b01 CTS

this is a Regional.

B01 CTS just lead Mirai Whims

[shadow wind]

Sorry this looks like a Miraidon lead to me

Unless you know more than the world champion

Oh a game 2 Miraidon lead as well

[solid frigate]

counter arguement,this is against CIR

Plus i lead Oger Whims or Oger Flutter or Hands Flutter

[mint void]

Tbf Cerees game plan vs CalyS was hit the draco

[shadow wind]

You said people that do it are Bo1 CTS'ers

[mint void]

And for CIR it kinda was hit HH Draco

[dense latch]

luca led miraidon in almost every one of his games according to his team report

[mint void]

Yep

Tbf he often VS out against some matchups. Mainly CIR irrc

[shadow wind]

Because it's an amazing lead

[mint void]

And CSR too

[dense latch]

true

[shadow wind]

It has a pivot and can nuke stuff

[dense latch]

part of what makes mirai lead so safe is the pivoting

[shadow wind]

Yes

[mint void]

I think he led Whims+Oger a few times. But otherwise it was just Mirai with one of Whims, Farig, Oger

[shadow wind]

Whims Oger fries Groudon

[mint void]

@shadow wind Morris doesnt have them tho afaik

[shadow wind]

I know

[solid frigate]

i throw Farigiraf and replace with Flutter Mane

[mint void]

Ok

[left bobcat]

Yeahhhhhh

Flutter mane overrated anyways

[shadow wind]

Dang I'm watching the 2024 finals for the first time right now

What a wild set

[solid frigate]

i just don't click with Farigiraf thats why-

[shadow wind]

Dang Luca really led Miraidon all 3 times

Goat

[mint void]

He made a team report with a tad bit of notes if u haven't seen that

[left bobcat]

The black know I just strangled me a goat

Let em go let em go

[shadow wind]

Wow Draco didn't even kill CIR

[dense latch]

idk how a mirai team stops getting run over by fake out and priority without farig

[shadow wind]

Yeah me neither

[dense latch]

im not trying to be mean or anything i gen want to know what's your plan vs those type of teams

[shadow wind]

Wait is the finals a bo5?

[dense latch]

no

[shadow wind]

What an insane set

[wispy spade]

What's a CIR?

[shadow wind]

Also Erik I just want you to know you're the only person I accepted OTS to

[shadow wind]

Calyrex Ice Rider

[wispy spade]

Oh

[dense latch]

i really appreciate that

ppl that accept ots are so rare

which is why im prob switching to purely bo3s soon

[shadow wind]

I don't accept it myself but if the other person does I usually do

Unfortunately not a lot of people do that

Don't mind the awful win rate by the way

[dense latch]

i have my showdown accept it automatically

[shadow wind]

Whenver I accept it I instantly lock in and go full sweat

[dense latch]

that might be the reason why i do way better in ots room tours than i do in ladder

[shadow wind]

And sometimes I don't want to do that

[dense latch]

• the fact that most players are lower elo

[shadow wind]

And I just want my opponent to guess if my Flutter mane is sash or specs

[wispy spade]

I am a noob and have nothing to gain from ots.

[shadow wind]

Also having Rilla, Urshi, Raging, and Incin in my best MUs makes me feel goated

[dense latch]

idk why i havent set up a pasrs for my team

[shadow wind]

It's so nice

[dense latch]

i feel like im gonna stay with it a lot

i didnt set it up before bc i thought i was gonna switch teams

[shadow wind]

I switch teams OFTEN

[dense latch]

but then it worked great

[shadow wind]

And I try to do it for the promising teams

Apparently my MUs are %s off

Also I've seen 33 Urshifus

Out of 52 games

[wispy spade]

How many ogerpons?

[shadow wind]

4 Cornerstones
6 Hearthflames
2 Wellsprings

But the hearthflames are expected

[wispy spade]

Where did she go? I thought she was popular

[wispy spade]

The illusion of choice

How come grasspon is never a thing?

It has to be good for something, right?

[balmy glen]

It is just more rare

[wispy spade]

I don't think i've ever seen it on a team, not even as a joke

[balmy glen]

It’s usually good on those mid speed trick room ish teams with Calyice/Lunala since it can tera to OHKO something and punish passive leads to counter trick room

[balmy glen]

It got top 32 at worlds

[solid frigate]

lmao

[shadow wind]

It's really good against sash Urshifu rapid strikes

[wispy spade]

Isn't waterpon better for that?

[balmy glen]

Waterpons better for hard tr for torkoal fwg core coverage

[wispy spade]

Maybe grass cudgel can ohko

[balmy glen]

Grass cudgel always brings it to sash and they can always speed boost speed creep something like I said so that’s why it’s pretty good

All the Ogerpon have their niches you just have to find which one fits your team if one of them does

Will say grasspon was decent on a Zama edition I tested so there’s that too

[foggy lodge]

Bullet seeeeed

[shadow wind]

Bullet seed

[balmy glen]

and has defiant

[wispy spade]

I really need to play again... So many things i've forgotten

[foggy lodge]

Encore is used on grasspon because of the speed boost right?

[left bobcat]

What can even one shot cir

[torn parrot]

almost got there but missed it

thats a good time to srtop for now

[mint void]

Jo mams heat crash

Astral Barrage has rolls

On specs caly only tho

15/16

Koraidon Flareblitz probs

Terad Pon Fire

Ogerpon Stone Tera

Ivy Cudgel(252 adamant)

[balmy glen]

Sometimes

I don’t remember if Shiliang had it but yeah with its speed boost it can go from a follow me bot to getting a sneaky kill to just completely disabling a bad mu

[shadow wind]

I think they did yeah

[real prairie]

And a ogerpon who's mask free 🎶

[solid frigate]

@strange fjord ggs

[strange fjord]

ggs

[solid frigate]

i think my new team is now so much better (Still Beta Team)

[strange fjord]

bruh i lost 100+ elo
i was not locked in today. i got locked out

[foggy lodge]

Oh also what does "the punish passive leads to counter tr" means?

I still don't understand how grasspon helps with that

[solid frigate]

F

[strange fjord]

did like 10 battles and only won like 2 (one was even a t0 forfeit)

[foggy lodge]

Electivire top 64 at río de janeiro bwajsjajdj https://pokepast.es/4b9dec33b479eef5

[strange fjord]

electivire gaming

[solid frigate]

i think your team's problem is that its pretty much a pretty Miraidon+Calyrex Counter Heavy Team

but as a Gimmick team

[balmy glen]

Basically you usually want to be able to pin hard trick room teams. But sometimes when teams usual offensive core can’t pin HR they have a passive mode that allows them to stall out trick room with its bulk/typing/spamming protects

[strange fjord]

i lost to 2 miraidon team today and caly ice. think i need to focus up 😤

[balmy glen]

I gotta start going to these

[solid frigate]

yeah pretty much what gimmick team is

You have to prepare for the board state

[left bobcat]

FOCUS PUNCH 😤

[strange fjord]

gotta have that inner focus. then have a focus energy to focus blast through the opponent

[foggy lodge]

ohhh then yeah i get it, thx

[solid frigate]

just move before someone then Focus Punch go brrr

[foggy lodge]

https://standings.stalruth.dev/2025/regional-rio-de-janeiro/masters

There are some interesting teams

Also Sneasler Miraidon top 8 or 16 i don't remember

[forest arrow]

Iron Treads Mirai

[forest arrow]

Top 16

[mint void]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2284357490

Cringe team

[solid frigate]

its low ladder what do you expect

wait lmao

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2284364692
Zama took out

Dunno why he did not target Terapagos

[molten oasis]

Hey wait a minute

[solid frigate]

bruh moment

[solid frigate]

what?

[molten oasis]

It’s taunting you

[molten oasis]

Was joking about the team formula lol

[solid frigate]

eh i'm not phased

[molten oasis]

No the team you’re fighting

Ik you’re on the fence about playing MoonOgre or Pagos, right?

[solid frigate]

yeah

[solid frigate]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2284366914

I guess the replay shows who is better for it

[balmy glen]

Play both

[cyan smelt]

I thought chi yu was always scarf

[solid frigate]

My Chi Yu?

[cyan smelt]

No most chi yus

[balmy glen]

Covert or scarf

Depends what ur team needs

[solid frigate]

i used Sash Now

Wisp goes hard

[balmy glen]

I used grassy seed before

[solid frigate]

on what

[balmy glen]

Chi

That was reg f tho that thing fried

[mint void]

Well yeah. Cba to test weird stuff on main and auto lose cause I have random spreads

[solid frigate]

What happens if you give Chi Yu the Wrong Fish Food be like

[left bobcat]

wtf did I just watch

I would’ve had a field with Lunala

They really seem to like trick-

[mint void]

@left bobcat tricked Kyogre Specs

[left bobcat]

I’ve noticed

[mint void]

@left bobcat do u know wtf Misty Terrain was supposed to do?

[left bobcat]

ah yes

prevents all status conditions for mons that are grounded and halves the damage of dragon moves

does not boost fairy moves but does boost the move of misty explosion

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2284390761

ahh this miraidon team is starting to be a light pack

[mint void]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2284392772-2nszn8lppqhi675ot6bi2yvacbi4wj4pw
Good Tera bro

[left bobcat]

What the hell was that-

[next stump]

finally watched the finals

very poetic kyogre misses to lose the set

super cool to see that guy who want was very happy to win, always makes me smile

[hallow nova]

Hey I am new to vgc and want to learn more about competitive pokemon. Does anyone have any useful resources?

[next stump]

Yes, I have a copy paste message I send to all new VGC players with helpful resources - let me grab it

If you have any questions about websites/anything in general, feel free to ask in here 😄

[hallow nova]

Okay awesome!

[next stump]

Here is a list of all of the resources I find most helpful when playing/learning VGC:

https://www.vgcguide.com/ (Helpful website for basics and also to get your feet wet)

https://www.munchstats.com (Shows you usage data and helps you build Pokémon)

https://nerd-of-now.github.io/NCP-VGC-Damage-Calculator/ (Damage calculator that is very helpful when building teams or reflecting on games)

https://youtube.com/c/CybertronVGC (Best channel for daily VGC content, guiding you through the thought process you need for success)

https://victoryroadvgc.com/ (Tournament results, team reports and breakdowns, and rental codes can be found here)

https://twitter.com/VGCPastes - Tournament and high ranked teams

https://twitter.com/vgccorner - Helpful Twitter account that posts in-depth EV spreads and ideas about competitive pokemon

There are dozens of other resources, some of which are in the pinned messages of this channel. But these IMO are the best places to start absorbing knowledge and getting to a place where you're comfortable with VGC

[hallow nova]

I have been a fan of pokemon for awhie but have never wanted to get into competitive till now since it feels a bit overwhelming

[next stump]

It seems that way at first but to be honest, it's a very fun game to learn especially when you already enjoy pokemon

[hallow nova]

Is pokemon showdown a good way to learn? Or should I just play competitive on my switch?

[next stump]

Showdown is 100% a better way to learn since the games are faster, more information is available on screen for you, and teambuilding is instant

I'd only ever practice in game if you really really can't stand showdown or you want to play a tournament that requires you to play on your switch

[foggy lodge]

I prefer in game personally bcuz showdown sometimes overstimulates me and i don't play right lol

But yeah showdown is overall better

[hallow nova]

Okay awesome! Thank you for all the information!

[gentle crag]

cinemaandcritique has given 1 Gen Rep to mlbd

[next stump]

you're welcome 😄 again if anything pops up feel free to message in here. Plenty of helpful people who enjoy seeing people get into the game

Great time to get into VGC as well, it's as big as its ever been and with the Switch 2 and a new game on the horizon it's bound to get larger

[hallow nova]

Awesome!!!

[next stump]

@real prairie i'm sure you've seen this but super cool to be able to dominate a results page like this lol

[cyan smelt]

2 many grass types there though

[next stump]

worked out not too bad for him hahaha

[cyan smelt]

ig all power to him if he can pilot it well

[forest arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/mirror_b-pokemon-pokemon_xd-battle-afro-gif-15350699

this man is proud

[mint void]

SD is easier since it takes hours to retrain mons in game.

[molten oasis]

https://tenor.com/view/honse-1st-delaware-war-of-rights-1st-de-gif-18969268

caly players be like

[cyan smelt]

Wut the just watched a game with special incin with heat wave and dark pulse

And nasty plot

[shadow wind]

What?

Did it win?

[cyan smelt]

Yes next to tera ground Groudon

Flutter mane with tr

[shadow wind]

What the

Wait send the game

[cyan smelt]

too late i lost it

[shadow wind]

I was watching games earlier and saw something similar

Darn

[cyan smelt]

wish showdown kept a history of which games you'd watched

[shadow wind]

https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen9vgc2025regg-2284391779?p2

This is the one I saw earlier

[cyan smelt]

yes it was grougooner

[shadow wind]

😭😭😭

What an awful name

[cyan smelt]

that nasty plot heat wave in sun does a lot

[shadow wind]

Well yeah Incin does have a spatk of 80

It aint nothing

[left bobcat]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[shadow wind]

First unique Groudon team

[left bobcat]

I’m so confused

[shadow wind]

Me too

[cyan smelt]

Maybe it's meant to confuse the opposing player into throwing

[knotty briar]

The physical attacking Flareon has 95 just to compare...

[shadow wind]

Like the 2 mons or why someone would use Incin over Flareon?

Cause Incin has nasty plot

[glacial tartan]

Does Protect work on First Impression?

[dense latch]

yes

[tiny karma]

Move: First Impression

Fails unless it is the user's first turn on the field.

Type

Bug

Category

Physical

Power

90

Accuracy

100

PP (max)

10 (16)

Priority

2

Move Flags

​

Mirror

Copied by Mirror Move.

Contact

Makes contact.

Sableye version 4.28.1

[charred saddle]

yes id assume, its lower prio

[glacial tartan]

Best Guzma strategy? Higher ops put me in charge of battling him...

[cyan smelt]

Just use lycanroc

If you can get dusk lycanroc it has boosted accelrock and sucker punch

[glacial tartan]

Against a Golisopod? Are you kidding me?

[cyan smelt]

Look up what tough claws does

[glacial tartan]

Oh, I see...

Is dusk lycanroc fusion lycanroc?

[shadow wind]

Nah why is this guy at 1500

[left bobcat]

Same reason I’m there too

At least I know I can go toe to toe with the 1600s and above but I start getting nervous

Like the pressure becomes real then I fold

1800s let alone the higher 1700s mmmmmmmm nope

[molten oasis]

I really hope that isn’t you

The Grougooner

[cyan smelt]

Idt conner would use gimmicks like tr flutter and nasty plot incin

[left bobcat]

I had to double make sure I wasn’t high

[cyan smelt]

It's definitely some sort of fever dream

[left bobcat]

I was like wait-

Nasty plot incin?

HEAT WAVE INCIN?

DARK PULSE?

[cyan smelt]

What's the 4th move on incin

[left bobcat]

Never saw it

All i remember seeing was
Nasty plot
Heat wave
Dark pulse

[cyan smelt]

Probably overheat because fuck it why not go all out with the gimmick

[left bobcat]

I mean that’s what I was going for

When I tried specs Koraidon